Is Trump Getting Ready To Cut Ukraine—and Europe—Loose?
The push for Russian-Ukrainian peace is about more than Ukraine.

President Donald Trump started peace negotiations over Ukraine with dramatic flair. Although he had been expected to send his envoy Keith Kellogg to present a peace plan at the Munich Security Conference this week, Trump instead had a phone call with Russian President Vladimir Putin, announcing on Wednesday morning that they "agreed to have our respective teams start negotiations immediately." Along with the peace talks, the two countries announced a surprise prisoner exchange. And Trump snubbed Kellogg, leaving him out of the announced negotiating team.
European governments panicked at the notion that they would be left out of any final deal. "Peace can only be achieved together. And that means with Ukraine, and with the Europeans," German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told reporters. "There will be no just and lasting peace in Ukraine without the participation of Europeans," French Foreign Minister Jean-Noël Barrot said to France's cabinet. Leaders across Europe made similar statements.
The talks about Ukraine are about more than Ukraine, and everybody on both sides of the Atlantic knows it. The new Trump administration seems eager to draw back from America's post-World War II role as Europe's military protector. In a speech on Wednesday, a few hours before Trump's announcement, U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth called on the other members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) to pick up the tab for defending Ukraine and Europe.
"Our transatlantic alliance has endured for decades. And we fully expect that it will be sustained for generations to come. But this won't just happen. It will require our European allies to step into the arena and take ownership of conventional security on the continent," Hegseth said. "The United States remains committed to the NATO alliance and to the defense partnership with Europe. Full stop. But the United States will no longer tolerate an imbalanced relationship that encourages dependency. Rather, our relationship will prioritize empowering Europe to own responsibility for its own security."
Of course, Trump talked about having European countries pay a bigger share of defense in his first term, too. He also built up U.S. forces close to Russia's borders, and sent the first lethal military aid to Ukraine, mocking former President Barack Obama for giving Ukrainian troops only "pillows and sheets."
The stakes, however, are different now. During Trump's first term, the conflict was a war between the Ukrainian government and pro-Russia rebels. Since then, Russia has launched a full-scale invasion of Ukraine, leading to the most intense combat in Europe since World War II—and burning through U.S. resources. The threat of a direct U.S.-Russian war has loomed in the background.
Besides, the domestic politics have also changed. The Russiagate scandal and Trump's first impeachment trial have turned many Democrats into hawks on Russia and Ukraine, which has in turn polarized many Republicans in the opposite direction. Within the Republican camp, Trump has been cleaning house of old-style neoconservative hawks who want to dominate the whole world, and bringing in figures who want to prioritize confronting China or controlling Latin America instead.
"It's not normal for the world to simply have a unipolar power. That was an anomaly. It was a product of the end of the Cold War, but eventually you were going to reach back to a point where you had a multipolar world, multi-great powers in different parts of the planet," Secretary of State Marco Rubio told Fox News' Megyn Kelly last month. On Europe, he said that "there's a conversation to be had about whether the United States needs to be at the front end of securing the continent or as a backstop to securing the continent."
What hasn't really changed is what Russia and Ukraine want. Ukraine naturally wants to get back the land that was taken from it by force and to have guarantees against later invasions. Russia wants to keep the territory it has fought for—and then some—and to keep NATO or any other Western military presence out of Ukraine.
In his speech, Hegseth offered two major concessions. "Returning to Ukraine's pre-2014 borders is an unrealistic objective," he said, adding that "the United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement."
On the latter point, NATO members have tried to have their cake and eat it, too. German Chancellor Olaf Scholz, for example, told German radio last year that "a country at war absolutely cannot become a member of NATO." After all, NATO membership commits NATO countries to go to war for each other—and for that reason, the alliance requires unanimous consent to admit new members. But Western leaders have insisted on keeping their "open door policy" towards Ukraine on principle.
On the other hand, the Trump administration is also trying to have the best of both worlds. Instead of letting Ukraine join NATO, the Trump administration is offering Ukraine a security guarantee in exchange for U.S. access to rare earth minerals. Hegseth insisted in his speech that this guarantee will be "backed by capable European and non-European troops," and "there will not be U.S. troops deployed to Ukraine." In other words, the Trump administration wants to set the terms of a peace deal and reap the benefits while letting Europeans eat the costs.
This threat of being left behind might be exactly the push Europe needs to take control of its own security policy. European Commission President Ursula von der Leyen warned that "the world is changing fast" and "the United States has set a new agenda" in a speech last week. "It is time—and even high time—to take our security and defense into our own hands," she said. "NATO remains the foundation of our defense. But it is clear that we need an [European Union]-wide surge in defense."
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"The new Trump administration seems eager to draw back from America's post-World War II role as Europe's military protector...U.S. Secretary of Defense Pete Hegseth called on the other members of the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) to pick up the tab for defending Ukraine and Europe."
About damned time; the US took a leading role in liberating Europe in WW2, rebuilt it with the Marshall Plan, and then protected it from Soviet invasion until 1989. Meanwhile the defense budget for countries like France and Germany amounts to less than 2% of their GDP. Just imagine if a fair proportion of the resources we've spent over that last 50 years could have been applied to solving our own problems.
France, Germany, et al can take the lead on the next Bosnia or Ukraine.
^^^
So sick of those self important, elitist European socialists looking down their noses at the people who make it possible for them to exist. And on our dime.
I see Britain's kweer Stammer wants to send his people into the meat grinder.
Goddamn right he is. Love it.
Need to kick the UN in the pussy next. Go Trump Go!
He should withdraw from the UN and all its agencies, including all funding, and tell them to buy the damned building at auction by the end of the year or get the hell out of Dodge.
I'd like to sign up for your newsletter, sir.
Turn the building into refugee housing.
Cause he's a pussy kicking son-of-a-bitch!!
Agreed, the UN needs to be kicked there too.
On the other hand, if Trump kicks the UN out, NYC will probably just turn the building into a shelter for homeless, non-binary, purple-haired, left-handed, criminal border crossers.
Language, please. They're called "refugees with temporary protected status."
We can't have that! Make it a shelter for homeless _American_ citizens.
Indeed. get U.S. out of the U.N.
Get the U.N. out of the U.S.
It's hilarious that Germany and France think they have any relevance or real say in the matter.
He who pays the piper names the tune, you lazy worthless freeloading bums.
Gee. Maybe the Europeans should have taken a little responsibility for their own future. Maybe they should have worried about paying Russia billions for that nasty fossil fuel instead of shitcanning their nuclear reactors and destroying forests to build windmills. Maybe they should have realized that money is fungible, and buying stuff from one dictator while sending money to another, while they are fighting each other, is a pretty silly policy. Maybe they should have been building up their own armed forces instead of begging Uncle Sugar to spend more on their behalf. Maybe they should stop
taxingfining American businesses billions to prop up their sordid little regimes while begging Americans to save them.Maybe Europe should just grow up and take responsibility for themselves. They seem to think they know how the rest of the world should behave. Perhaps they can lead by example.
Sorry, Jean-Luc. You're gonna have to fork over that aperol spritz money for defense now. Actually, why don't you double it and also pay for our defense for about 100 years. Then we'll call it even.
It took me a second to realize you weren't referring to the greatest captain in the Star Trek franchise. "Jean-Luc" will always make me think of Picard first, and a random frog second.
Wonder what will happen to compassionate, intelligent European socialism without the US subsidizing their defense?
The daily siestas might have to be cut from three hours down to just two, can you imagine the horror?
What Putin wants Trump shall give.
The Ukrainian grift is over. So sorry.
You think they faked getting invaded?
You think it is any of our business? In fact US actions was one of the reasons for the invasion dumdum.
Indeed.
Thank you bathhouse Barry.
Ya know something? I detest Putin. His actions wrt Crimea and Ukraine remind me of Hitler with Czechoslovakia.
Another reminder is that the borders are all trash, invented by politicians without any regard for the people involved.
Ya know something else? Ukraine is just as corrupt as Russia. Zelensky canceled elections with the excuse they wouldn't be fair without the eastern provinces and Crimea. He's shut down newspapers and TV stations.
And it's my money Biden's been sending there. If Ukraine weren't corrupt, I'd probably have donated something to their defense. But Ukraine is corrupt, they can't account for $100 billion of Amercian taxpayers' money, and I don't really think it's my problem to save their dirty corrupt house when they don't have any interest in doing so themselves. Seen any corruption cleanup recently? They've had three years. They claim they're fighting for their lives and need every last dollar. Yet they've "lost track of" $100 billion.
Fuck 'em.
Too late, they already took $200 billion of our money. And the little coke sniffling midget can't account for half of it missing.
F*** him.
Amazing he hasn't been voted out of office. Oh wait. What?...
He is protecting Ukrainian democracy.
He is protecting Ukrainians from democracy.
Fixed it.
Trump should repossess Ukraine as collateral. Give Russia part of Crimea to ge them out of our hair and then monetize the rest of it to balance our budget and begin reducing the national debt. All NATO countries should pay tribute as well.
No more free rides.
How many genocides does Europe have to commit to prove that they are better than us?
Western Europe has exceeded expectations by arranging for their own genocide.
It's a start. Now get U.S. out of NATO (North Atlantic terrorist Organization) and the U.N. as well. It's long past time for Europe to grow up and stop picking the American taxpayer's wallets. If NATO were to disband, it's going to force the rest of Europe to take a less of a shrill tone to Russia.
The problem is the E.U. which acts more like a dictatorship than democracy.
Oh yes, and send the U.N. packing to Europe. Use the building to house homeless vets.
"Use the building to house homeless vets."
Now that's an idea I can get behind.
You going to force those poor bastards to live in NY? That’s just cruel.
But they at least have a chance at being invited to Reason cocktail parties.
Based on most of the vets I know, it would improve the demographics of the place. Would be great if enough of them could live there to flip a congressional seat [I believe this one is currently held by the penguin aka Nadler...]
>European governments panicked at the notion that they would be left out of any final deal. "Peace can only be achieved together. And that means with Ukraine, and with the Europeans," German Foreign Minister Annalena Baerbock told reporters.
I don't know, maybe if the Germans hadn't spent the first year of the war waffling because of the danger of losing access to Russian gas right after they'd butchered their coal-power sector?
Or if Europe was actually willing to *do* anything?
This threat of being left behind might be exactly the push Europe needs to take control of its own security policy.
If it's like the previous pushes, Europe will spend a lot of time deciding how many generals are from each country in a European force. And then will take a long lunch break once they realize how difficult it is to decide such things.
Well they also have to contend with saving the planet from cow farts.
"the United States does not believe that NATO membership for Ukraine is a realistic outcome of a negotiated settlement."
Which implies that NATO membership IS a realistic outcome without a negotiated settlement.
It's never, ever going to happen, period.
Remember back in the day when the Soviet Union was threatening to park nuclear warheads pointed at us inside of Cuba, and JFK made it clear that them doing so would mean the outbreak of World War 3 (which it still would even today)?
The idea of Kiev being a full-fledged member of NATO is exactly that for Russia, in reverse. It's what they consider to be their red line, existential threat to their survival.
I find it alarming that Russia is terrified of a _defensive_ alliance.
Interesting take, but the odds of letting a nation already at war join an organization which would have to come to its defense is probably a non-starter in the US.
The NATO charter also requires that applicants for membership have uncontested borders.
Nearly 80 years since the end of WWII. Nearly 36 years since the Berlin Wall came down. Grow up Europe and start taking responsibility for your own safety and defense.
Newsflash to Petti: Sane Americans do not care if the Europeans kill each other as long as the US doesn't get involved.
Now do Middle East
Israel is more than capable of defending itself.
We just need to have their back logistically and diplomatically. Arms sales and some cover in the international community will let them take the gloves off and wipe out the Islamic hordes assembled by the Iranian regime.
Any friendly nation is welcome to *buy* US arms; they're not welcome to my wallet
"non-European troops,"
Any ideas which countries will be supplying these troops??
African Union? That is when they're not floundering around in Haiti.
Cuba?
They do that a lot.
Here's a much deeper dive into what may be a transition to a multi polar world order.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2025-02-12/grand-bargain-works-between-us-and-russia
Secretary Marco Rubio said that, "The postwar global order is not just obsolete - it is now a weapon being used against us. And all of this has led to a moment in which we must now confront the single greatest risk of geopolitical instability and of generational global crisis..." At the same time, one of Russia's leading intellectuals and an advisor to the Kremlin, Sergei Karaganov may have revealed the Russian thinking in stating that Russia's task was to help the United States transition to the new global order as peacefully and with the least disruption as possible.
But what could that global order be, and how could Russia help America's transition to it? Why would the US want to transition? The Trump administration may have clear domestic and foreign policy agendas, but they also have a major weakness in the unbalanced US economy and its overhang of unpayable debts. I believe that what might emerge from Trump's talks with Vladimir Putin and also with Xi Jinping could be a division of the global sphere of influence between three main blocks plus a number of regional blocks.
The three-block architecture has long been an obsession of the British Empire and probably for a good reason: the idea is coherent and consistent with the geopolitical realities in the world. To a large extent, the same basic idea also shaped US postwar foreign policy. It is the reason why the Trilateral Commission, formed by Zbigniew Brzezinski and Henry Kissinger has the word "trilateral" in its name.
The problem with that analysis is that there is no reason to credit Russia at all. It is a weak and collapsing country that happens to have nuclear weapons, and has influence only in one or two ME places and pretty much nowhere else. China has been far more effective even outside its geographical sphere of influence. But Zerohedge - beloved of Putinist useful idiots everywhere - would not say so.
If Russia is collapsing why are the euroweenies freaking out about it?
Trump and his team are ending useless, expensive wars and are actively engaged in reducing the size and scope of the federal bureaucracy in order to place limits on government power. Sounds like a libertarian's wet dream, so why all the criticism?
Reason editors are not libertarian? Just a theory.
Maybe TDS has blinded their ability to use logic and....reason?
Not a joke; Reasons new YouTube channel is called: “reasonfreemedia”
Sullum’s idea?
Forget the Europeans. No need for thousands of more Ukrainians to die while the buffoonish clowns get to have their say.
The media won't tell you that we didn't go to war against Russia when Putin invaded Crimea and Georgia - when Obama was president. That's right, Russia invaded two sovereign nations and NO ONE freaking cared. Putin almost certainly expected Biden to be Obama 2.0. He had no idea that this time around, team blue was willing to sacrifice countless Ukrainian lives to play out their Russia gate fantasy.
The war in Ukraine did not need to happen. The invasion of Georgia ended with some sort of peace treaty. Why we didn't negotiate with Putin when he do the same with Iran, I'll never know. The left's hatred of one man, Donald Trump, cost thousands of young lives. Absolutely despicable people who allied with the neocons of old just to take down Trump.
Just the END the freaking war. I can't imagine the anguish of young Ukrainians living in their basements to dodge the draft. They can't run away to Canada like Americans did during Vietnam. Take THEM as refugees, not the migrants.
Yeah just end this shit now. There are no good guys or bad guys just dead guys. I voted for Trump primarily because he made it perfectly clear that his overriding foreign policy objective is to end wars and end US foreign entanglement. So far I'm impressed and we got DOGE as a bonus.