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California

California Teachers Make 6 Figures on Average. Now They Demand More.

Plus: Steel and aluminum tariffs, Venezuelan sanctions and deportations, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 2.10.2025 9:30 AM

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California's teacher demands: You might think, given that less than a third of the state's fourth graders have been deemed proficient in reading, and just over a third proficient in math, with test scores that have failed to improve for the last 16 years, that teachers in California would wait to have better job performance before they demand more money.

You would be thinking wrong.

Student enrollment, statewide, has decreased by 360,000 since 2020. Funding has nevertheless exploded. But last week, the California Teachers Association announced the start of their "We Can't Wait" campaign, which coordinates 77,000 educators in 32 districts who teach more than a million students, to "come together around a set of shared demands" which include, predictably, better class sizes, "more resources" for students, and—you guessed it!—more money.

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Local unions apparently coordinated their contract expiration dates so that tons of teachers contracts across the state expire this June. Surveyed by GBAO Strategies over the last few months, 84 percent of teachers say they "cannot afford to live near their schools" and 81 percent "say their salaries are not keeping up with rising costs for groceries, childcare and other necessary expenses." Of course, that state's issues with the high cost of living are felt by people across all sectors, and will be remedied not by paying public employees more but by getting government out of the way of building more housing, and by improving the nation's overall fiscal health to curb inflation (a situation partially created by…government stimulus checks).

The union touts research by Sylvia Allegretto at California's Center for Economic and Policy Research, which claims that "the relative pay of US public school teachers was 26.6% less than that of similar nonteacher college graduates in 2023." This is supposed to show that teachers are in some way systematically undervalued. But of course plenty of private sector employees—those in finance, tech, and law, for example—make more, on average, than teachers (and drive up the average); there are, for starters, fewer people who can be decent hedge fund managers or quant developers than can be second grade teachers. At the same time, teaching bestows many benefits that fall outside the realm of traditional compensation: extreme job security, summers off, generous government pensions, union protection.

Perhaps the most striking is that these union leaders believe they can extort taxpayers through threatened work stoppages while their results have slipped. If you want your school system to continue hemorrhaging students, that is a surefire way to go about it.

Barreling toward autarky: Today, President Donald Trump reportedly plans to announce 25 percent tariffs on steel and aluminum imports from all trading partners, fulfilling promises he made on the campaign trail.

"The top five suppliers of steel to the American market in January were Canada, followed by Brazil, Mexico, South Korea and Germany. Canada has also led in aluminum exports to the United States, while the United Arab Emirates, Russia and China are far behind," reports The New York Times. China is already a huge steel exporter globally, but since tariffs are already in place on such imports, Xi Jinping has long found creative ways of funneling semi-processed Chinese steel to places like Vietnam, where it is then finished and exported. When the tariffs are applied universally, those workaround supply chains may be a lot less valuable.

"Previously, the president has also pledged that the U.S. would impose tariffs on computer chips, pharmaceuticals, copper, oil and gas imports as soon as mid-February," reports The Wall Street Journal.

So far, administration officials and their allies in Congress appear to be dividing tariffs into two categories: "punitive" (like those recently threatened on Canada and Mexico, a Trumpian attempt to get those countries to invest more in border security) and "structural, long-term" ones (like the steel and aluminum tariffs). These are misnomers, though, because all of these tariffs are punitive: They will impose big costs on American consumers while adding to global instability, creating cycles of retribution and reducing existing international goodwill. That Trump has embraced tariffs as a foreign policy instrument—a means of pressuring other countries into doing his bidding, or at least making a show of doing his bidding when they were already planning on doing kind of the same thing (as in Canada's case)—is a bad thing.

People are freaking out about DOGE, but all for what? "To be clear, what the DOGE team and U.S. Treasury have jointly agreed makes sense is the following," wrote Elon Musk on X over the weekend. "Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible; All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!; The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily."

Musk continues: "The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn't exist already!"

If that is in fact what is happening, all of this makes complete and total sense.

CFPB sledgehammered: Meanwhile, reports The Wall Street Journal, "Trump's newly installed Consumer Financial Protection Bureau chief Russell Vought is closing the bureau's headquarters and has ordered staff to halt all of their supervisory efforts, ramping up the administration's attempt to revoke the financial regulator's authority." Vought informed the Federal Reserve, which funds it, that the bureau "will not be taking its next draw of unappropriated funding."

"Picture this: a government agency that operates with little accountability, spends taxpayers' money without congressional oversight, and enforces regulations based on flimsy theories about consumer behavior," wrote Veronique de Rugy in Reason last month. "That's the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), an institution so misguided in both mission and execution that it does not deserve mere reform—it should be abolished outright."

Birthed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) first in concept in 2007, then in action in 2010, when then–President Barack Obama appointed her chief, the CFPB was designed to be unaccountable, the very characteristic that has now allowed its seeming demise. Beautiful!

Warren deliberately and extraordinarily made CFPB unaccountable to democracy and elected officials. That was literally the point of the agency. https://t.co/Py29YeMGB2

— Tim Carney (@TPCarney) February 8, 2025

The CFPB is NOT funded by Congress but by the Federal Reserve, an intentional gambit by Democrats that allows CFPB to evade Congressional oversight. But that's a double-edged sword: if it isn't funded by Congress, that means a President doesn't need Congress to defund it either.

— Vivek Ramaswamy (@VivekGRamaswamy) February 8, 2025

(To be very clear, this is an anti-Warren newsletter. When I see Warren-roasting content, I feel it is my patriotic duty to post it. A certain amount of schadenfreude directed at The Other Liz feels so right.)


Scenes from New York: President Donald Trump told the New York Post he plans to use the federal Department of Transportation to kill off New York City's congestion pricing. New York "should focus on safety and cleanliness in the subway," said Trump, adding that "cleanliness and efficiency are good but they gotta get tough on the thugs. They can't be nice." Honestly? Hard agree.


QUICK HITS

  • "A Florida magnate with close ties to the Republican Party helped set up the recent meeting between Venezuelan strongman Nicolás Maduro and President Donald Trump's special envoy, laying the groundwork for a major deal that would allow the Caracas regime to boost its oil sales to the United States in exchange for accepting hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan deportees," reports the Miami Herald.
  • A new book, The Age Of Choice, asks whether having options truly makes us free. The New York Times review (with predictable concluding paragraph) is here.
  • "The U.S. bishops' conference laid off 50 people on Friday, roughly one-third of staff members in its migration and refugee services office, after a halt to federal reimbursements for contracted refugee and migrant resettlement programs," reports the Catholic publication The Pillar.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    California Teachers Make 6 Figures on Average.

    They can't get fire insurance. Tradeoffs.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Not to mention exceptionally high prices for housing, energy, boutique food, and every other trapping of the progressive lifestyle, all of that taxed and re-taxed. Plus teachers have to pay union dues to ensure the policies that promote even higher prices and taxes can continue to "improve" life. Perhaps if some educated person could explain how a (negative) reinforcing cycle works.

      1. Stuck in California   5 months ago

        It's actually regular food and boutique energy here.

        Both cost twice what they did during Trump's first term, of course.

        I'm privileged to pay the highest electricity rates in the nation! In a place that never sees snow or hurricanes or ice, where the sun shines and the rare rains are mild. Truly a progressive dream.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    ...teachers in California would wait to have better job performance before they demand more money.

    Yeah, California is known for standing up to its unions.

    1. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

      Part of the point of unions is to divorce performance from compensation.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        But most of the point of unions is making sure the right people get elected.

    2. TJJ2000   5 months ago

      The whole point of Socialism is 'Gun' DEMANDING pay without being required to perform.

      Otherwise the 'Guns' wouldn't be needed for anything but ensuring Liberty and Justice for all.

      Funny how this nation is so 'socialized' minded already that most are blinded by such simple logic.

  3. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

    I don't care what California does, as long as it doesn't involve federal funding.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

      Or driving their bat crap crazy residents out of state to spread their disease.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Build the wall!

      2. JSinAZ   5 months ago

        Phoenix metro reaches 120+ F, it never rains and they drink saltwater. Keep heading east.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Progressives will feel much more at home in New Mexico.

          1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   5 months ago

            Well, fuck you too, buddy. 😉

            They'll hate New Mexico. We don't have any nightlife here. They'll want to keep going until they hit New Orleans. (Yeah, I may be a New Mexican, but even I don't hate Texans enough to to inflict Californians on them.)

            1. Dillinger   5 months ago

              they're taking care of that enough on their own and I wish it would stop.

    2. mad.casual   5 months ago

      I do. All kinds of emissions and other regulatory standards default to the arbitrarily invasive and stupid standards that CA sets. Hopefully, another decade of dishonest two-facedness and shit catching fire will immunize the other 50 to further stupidity.

      1. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

        Just using guns as a marker: If the rest of the country followed CA's bullshit, the semiauto industry would not exist. The same can apply to every other regulation CA vomits out.

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        Part of the problem is that government bureaucracies have been fine-tuned to be so slow and hard to change that by the time California's current stupid policies get noticed for the stupidity, it will take ten years to undo them, and by that time the next ten years of stupid policies will have bubbled to the top.

        The only good thing about this slow-speed bureaucracy is that 4 years is barely enough time to implement them, and it keeps taking longer. We may yet reach a point where the change in Presidency merely undoes proposed changes and nothing ever actually happens except adding bloat. I don't like wasting money on bureaucrats, but if we're stuck with bureaucrats, I'd rather they accomplished nothing than something.

    3. Minadin   5 months ago

      I don't think Cali is going to get federal funding anymore.

      https://www.foxnews.com/sports/california-plans-continue-allowing-trans-athletes-compete-girls-sports-despite-trump-executive-order

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        I like that feisty Resist! attitude. And to fulfill their victimhood virtue fantasies we should give them what they asked for.

    4. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

      I don't care what California does, as long as it doesn't involve federal funding.

      Except it will involve federal funding. Part of the COVID bill passed in 2021 was to bail out states with unfunded liabilities. So just wait for the next pandemic or some other kind of "emergency," and you'll see some kind of relief for California and their costly policies so they can continue to do the same thing in perpetuity.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        Yep. Illinois used those funds for all sorts of shit other than paying down their massive pension liabilities. Now they’re staring into the fiscal abyss yet again.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Hunger games time.

      2. Wizzle Bizzle   5 months ago

        100%

  4. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    Evil Jeffy's global regime is falling apart with the money spigot turned off.

    Today, the entire local opposition called for a massive demonstration against mining.

    Every political party joined the call, along with 90% of all NGOs, universities, churches, and activist groups. They ran a month-long mainstream media and social media campaign, had the backing of the country’s most powerful news outlets, chose a holiday (Sunday) so no one had to work, organized preparatory events, and more.

    This is what they achieved.

    It’s clear there is no opposition without USAID money

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      Too funny.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

      The rent-a-mobs were funded by this shit. Without the money, where do they get the mob? Jeffy might have to learn a trade. I suggested digging ditches yesterday. Might be good for his waistline.

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        Jeff defending 50% uppers off federal grants for indirect costs shows whoever pays him is fed funded.

        Wonder if sarc will rage at him.

        1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

          It was funny watching him flail around like that.

      2. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        Who in their right mind would trust him with a shovel?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

          I never said anything about a shovel. He can dig with his fat hands.

          1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

            https://leyanlo.tripod.com/SrAnthology/OSC-FatFarm.pdf

            FAT FARM
            Orson Scott Card

            The receptionist was surprised that he was back so soon.
            "Why, Mr. Barth, how glad I am to see you," she said.
            "Surprised, you mean," Barth answered. His voice rumbled from the rolls of fat
            under his chin.
            "Delighted."
            "How long has it been?" Barth asked.
            "Three years. How time flies."
            The receptionist smiled, but Barth saw the awe and revulsion on her face as
            she glanced over his immense body. In her job she saw fat people every day. But
            Barth knew he was unusual. He was proud of being unusual.
            "Back to the fat farm," he said, laughing.
            The effort of laughing made him short of breath, and he gasped for air as she
            pushed a button and said, "Mr. Barth is back."
            He did not bother to look for a chair. No chair could hold him. He did lean
            against a wall, however. Standing was a labor he preferred to avoid.
            Yet it was not shortness of breath or exhaustion at the slightest effort that had
            brought him back to Anderson's Fitness Center. He had often been fat before,
            and he rather relished the sensation of bulk, the impression he made as crowds
            parted for him. He pitied those who could only be slightly fat-- short people, who
            were not able to bear the weight. At well over two meters, Barth could get
            gloriously fat, stunningly fat. He owned thirty wardrobes and took delight in
            changing from one to another as his belly and buttocks and thighs grew. At times
            he felt that if he grew large enough, he could take over the world, be the world. At
            the dinner table he was a conqueror to rival Genghis Khan.
            It was not his fatness, then, that had brought him in. It was that at last the fat
            was interfering with his other pleasures. The girl he had been with the night
            before had tried and tried, but he was incapable-- a sign that it was time to
            renew, refresh, reduce.

            [short story continues]

    3. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      I've been assured "paid protesters" was a conspiracy theory.

      1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        Absolutely.
        Like the accidental lab leak, Russia Russia Russia, and the laptop as disinformation.

      2. jimc5499   5 months ago

        Yeah. Right. I watched three coach busses unload in Pittsburgh in 2020. As they were getting off the bus, they were handed shirts and/or signs. There were coolers with drinks and sandwiches that were handed out and they even had their own medics. What made it noticeable were the number of people speaking with Philly and New Jersey accents.

        1. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

          What made it noticeable were the number of people speaking with Philly and New Jersey accents.

          Nothing worse than fake yinzers!

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Mining? You know who else hated minors?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        “Miners. Not minors”

        1. Dillinger   5 months ago

          Spelunker was a fun video game I had it for my atari800

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          You ask your questions your way, party pooper.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

            “Look, I have one job on this lousy ship. It's stupid, but I'm gonna do it, okay?”

      2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        Margaret Sanger?

    5. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

      https://pjnewsletter.com/border-crossings-crash-under

      The financial scope is staggering. Congressional appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024 allocated $650 million in taxpayer funds for the FEMA Shelter and Services Program.

      That revenue stream, which once flowed freely to non-government shelters nationwide, has now run dry.

      Department of Homeland Security Secretary Kristi Noem delivered the decisive blow. “We have stopped all grant funding that’s being abused by NGOs to facilitate illegal immigration into this country,” Noem announced, marking a definitive end to the lucrative enterprise.

      System-Wide Collapse

      The impact rippled through the entire network. San Antonio’s Migrant Resource Center, strategically positioned near the international airport, shuttered operations.

      Pima County, Arizona, witnessed two major facilities – one housing 650 migrants, another serving over 100 – close within days of Trump’s inauguration.

      Border statistics tell the story. Current Customs and Border Protection data shows less than 500 daily migrant encounters across the entire southwest border – down from thousands per day in December 2023.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    They will impose big costs on American consumers while adding to global instability, creating cycles of retribution and reducing existing international goodwill.

    Geez. From reporting it sounds like no good can possibly come from trade tariffs.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Not for Koch Industries, er, Reason!

      1. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

        I'm not a huge fan of tariffs myself, but I would love an honest steelman of the idea. I will have to look through the Reason archives to see if there is one here.

        Is the idea to lower the dollar to make U.S. exports more attractive, thus bringing back manufacturing? Can trade imbalances themselves be inflationary, more than tariffs themselves? None of this seems convincing to me but I'm obviously not a student of economic theory. Are any tradeoffs worth it in the long run, and if so, to whom?

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          The problem isn't so much trade imbalance at this point, but regulatory imbalance.

          It is strange watching a magazine that is libertarian ignore this issue. They are basically saying trillions of regulatory costs on domestic industry is no big deal, small tariffs on foreign industry the worst thing ever. So tax here, not there as a policy, creating even more imbalances.

          We are no longer in the world of trading raw resources. Regulatory policy has a much higher cost to industry than tariff costs.

          This doesn't even get into the fact that foreing countries also apply costs domestically through theft, their own tariffs, etc.

          What they claim is a free market at this magazine is not a free market.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

            And we might have an occasional thought about other costs that come from trading with nefarious countries. How libertarian was it to buy and sell with major industrial companies in Germany in the 1930s?

            1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

              Don't have to even go back that far. We are still dealing with the costs from realized supply risk during covid.

    2. BYODB   5 months ago

      Existing international goodwill is amusing since most places seem to actually hate us. Paying them gobs of money hasn't changed that, either, so I doubt this will be the straw that breaks that camels back.

      If it is the 'final straw', and continued payoffs are the only reason our 'allies' have anything to do with us, than good riddance.

  6. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

    President Donald Trump told the New York Post he plans to use the federal Department of Transportation to kill off New York City's congestion pricing.

    Oh noes! Did he get a permission slip from congress?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      You know who else hates congestion?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        Everyone getting this fucking cold going around since before Christmas?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Ah, the giving spirit of Christmas!

  7. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    Why are the DOGE audits necessary? FEMA sent 59M to NYC luxury hotels for illegal immigrants just last week despite order not to.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/doge-team-finds-fema-sent-59-million-last-week-luxury-nyc-hotels-illegals

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      he Center Square) - The California beachside city of Carlsbad is proposing spending $81,503 per unsheltered homeless individual after its unsheltered homeless population grew 87% between 2023 and 2024.

      Notably, only 8% of the proposed $9.1 million budget is for homeless shelters, with a third of the money going to rental assistance payments, a quarter to the police department’s homeless outreach team and another sixth going to case management.

      https://justthenews.com/nation/states/center-square/california-town-proposes-spending-81k-unsheltered-homeless-only-8

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        Shit. Just give 'em teacher credentials, then it will be a different budget AND they'll get more money. WIN WIN WIN.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Don't forget voter registration, general.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits.

    Big Brother Hitler over there, getting into our business.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      How dare he impose government-mandated procedures on government agencies!

    2. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   5 months ago

      As long as they don’t mark legal expenses for legal expenses they should be fine.

    3. BYODB   5 months ago

      It's...actually kind of insane they haven't been doing that. This is exactly why an audit is necessary, even though they've made an audit functionally impossible. Coincidence? Not bloody likely.

  9. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    Best thing to ever happen to American Christianity.

    If your ministry has to close down after state funding dries up, it's not a "ministry," it's a state church.
    Tish Harrison Warren
    @Tish_H_Warren
    Trump is shutting down Christian ministries. Ministries I've supported may have to close their doors. I've never seen anything like this.

    1. Social Justice is neither   5 months ago

      Aren't these the same NPCs that scream "separation of church and State" all the fucking time?

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        Oh yeah.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        Yes. They want church out of state, but state in the church.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Well, at least the state dollars.

      3. mad.casual   5 months ago

        Yeah, the people they kept out of Church because of COVID were the real KRISCHUN NASHUNALISTS!

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      (Bad link -- it's to these comments, not twitter)

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        https://x.com/instapundit/status/1888935148437033400

    3. BYODB   5 months ago

      In some fairness, 'ministry' can also refer to programs and charities run by the church.

      In even more fairness, if non-state donations can't keep a ministry afloat it's probably something their congregation doesn't really give a damn about. That means they probably shouldn't be doing it.

      1. Don’t get eliminated (all the sudden I have no idea where I am on the list)   5 months ago

        I doubt these “ministries” involved have any real congregations.

        1. BYODB   5 months ago

          Probably true if the primary donor is the U.S. government.

  10. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    A left-wing, vampire-obsessed pedophile allegedly sexually abused two young girls for years at a Harlem school — even filming child porn in classrooms, according to a disturbing new lawsuit.

    Miles McNeal, 26, an after-school program teacher whose online alter ego pushed communist propaganda and fetishized vampires, allegedly touched and photographed young students’ naked bodies, had them assume sexual positions, and showed them pictures of the genitalia of other kids while threatening them to stay silent, the victims said in court papers.
    ...
    One staffer — “social-emotional learning” instructor Monica Vargas, who is related to McNeal by marriage — appeared to “facilitate” his depraved behavior, according to the lawsuit.

    In her role, Vargas would “interrogate” kids “about particularly traumatic or emotionally charged topics in their lives,” such as the death of a family pet, and then relay the information to McNeal “to facilitate his grooming,” the families contended.

    https://nypost.com/2025/02/09/us-news/vampire-obsessed-pedo-allegedly-sexually-abused-2-young-girls-in-nyc-school-for-years-even-filming-child-porn-in-classrooms-suit/

    1. Jerry B.   5 months ago

      The woodchipper feed should be set on "very slow".

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        You’re gonna need a bigger wood chipper.

        1. BadLib   5 months ago

          As in many computing problems, scale can be most economically achieved by applying parallel processing. Rather than spend big bucks on a few high capacity wood chippers, spend that money on many, many cheap small wood chippers and get more bang (chip?) for the buck.

          Of course the cheap ones may break down more frequently part way into a job and repair may take some time - but let's call that a feature not a bug in this case.

          The "chipper farms" could be located near solar farms to efficiently use the excess energy during the few hours of the day they produce energy. Land is usually cheap around the solar farms so RAIC (Redundant Arrays of Inexpensive Chippers) farms should be economical.

          (But will buzzards eat ground meat? If they only are attracted to relatively intact carcasses we may have a waste disposal problem - but out in the desert I suppose no one will care much about the piles of waste with the occasional NGO and government ID card mixed into it.)

          1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   5 months ago

            In the desert, I guarantee that something will eat it.

      2. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

        Hopefully, the blades are dull .

      3. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        You'll need more of them, then. They're going to be busy.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

      https://townhall.com/tipsheet/madelineleesman/2025/02/08/sex-offender-claiming-to-be-trans-in-fairfax-county-n2651803

      A Tier III registered child sex offender visited two schools and two county-owned recreation and fitness centers in the Northern Virginia region late last year, according to WJLA.

      The sex offender, Richard Kenneth Cox, 58, was charged for allegedly exposing himself to women and girls in a female locker room at Washington Liberty High School in September.

      A mother in Arlington, Virginia told the outlet that Cox “exposed his fully naked body in front of her and her 9-year-old daughter” after swimming lessons for children.

      Reportedly, witnesses said that Cox was allowed to use the women’s facilities because Arlington Public Schools allows individuals to use the bathrooms and locker rooms that align with their gender identity instead of their biological sex.

      Apparently, Cox told pool staff that he identified as transgender. That’s how he accessed the women’s locker room.

      1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

        Only a bigot objects to ladydick in the girls locker room.

        1. BYODB   5 months ago

          Ah, yes, throwing natural born women under the bus in favor of lesbians trapped in a dudes body.

          That madness can't end soon enough. I feel bad for people with legitimate mental illnesses, but I stop feeling as bad when they demand everyone go along with the delusion.

          Of course, this particular dude probably just saw an opportunity and took it. That's kind of the problem with this whole self identification nonsense, it can change by the hour. After all, how do you prove he didn't identify as a woman for the brief period of time he was leering at women and children in the locker room?

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

            A question I keep asking: is there any type of clinically insane self-image delusion where the treatment is to indulge that delusion?

      2. Minadin   5 months ago

        The sex offender's name was Dick Cox?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      I'm not sure I fully get the communist vampire thing, but at first consideration it could be apt.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        There's a great book, The Vampire Economy, written by, allegedly, someone who claimed to be a Communist who recognized private property rights. Published a week after Hitler invaded Poland, or possibly a little later or earlier, that's not clear. It's a description of how the Nazis transformed the German economy, such as party hacks in every business to make sure it conformed to Nazi policy. So full of stupid regulations that one vehicle manufacturer found the only way it could get tires for its products was to buy trucks from some other company, strip the tires, and scrap the rest. Farmers couldn't sell sausages and pork for reasonable prices, so they'd sell the products combined with the farm dog, who the buyers would let go as they left. A really fascinating and almost unbelievable account of party hacks destroying an economy.

        What I liked most is that it was not written in hindsight after the war was over.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

          People wonder how Germany could’ve lost the war. It’s crapola like this that highly contributed to their loss. And we’re on the same damn road.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            It absolutely is. The only thing is the US's favor right now is that Xi is an unrepentant Communist bureaucrat who surrounds himself with corrupt Yes Men, then executes them five years later for being corrupt. And Putin is so damned incompetent and corrupt that he can't defeat Ukraine in 3 years.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

              Instead of living in an age of heroes, we live in an age of retards.

        2. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

          Download for free from Mises.org!

          https://mises.org/library/book/vampire-economy?d7_alias_migrate=1

          It's definitely a great read.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

            Thanks

        3. BYODB   5 months ago


          A really fascinating and almost unbelievable account of party hacks destroying an economy.

          Gee, that sounds familiar. Where have I noticed this before?

          /sarc

    4. Super Scary   5 months ago

      "In her role, Vargas would “interrogate” kids “about particularly traumatic or emotionally charged topics in their lives,” such as the death of a family pet, and then relay the information to McNeal “to facilitate his grooming,” the families contended."

      "Yeah it sucks that your dog died. Ever think of going on puberty blockers? Don't tell your parents!"

      1. Trollificus   5 months ago

        Are you familiar with the Latin term "non sequitur"?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    That's the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), an institution so misguided in both mission and execution that it does not deserve mere reform—it should be abolished outright.

    But surely de Rugy didn't mean like this.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      She does, unless orange man does it

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        So, libertarianism with guardrails?

  12. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    President Donald Trump told the New York Post he plans to use the federal Department of Transportation to kill off New York City's congestion pricing.

    I guess Transportation isn't on the chopping block.

    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

      It’s only been 3 weeks

  13. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    New game. Jeffsarc or dem senator?

    "This is the most serious constitutional crisis the country has faced, certainly since Watergate. The president is attempting to seize control of power and for corrupt purposes."

    "The president wants to be able to decide how and where money is spent so that he can reward his political friends. He can punish his political enemies. That is the evisceration of democracy."

    "You stand that next to the wholesale endorsement of political violence, with the pardons given to every single January 6th writer, including the most violent, who beat police officers over the head with baseball bats. And you can see what he's trying to do here he is trying to crush his opposition by making them afraid of losing federal funding, by making them afraid of physical violence."

    "And so, yes, this is a red alert moment when this entire country has to understand that our democracy is at risk. And for what? The billionaire takeover of government? I'm sure we'll talk about this, but Elon Musk is inside our federal agencies."

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

      Sounds like jeffsarc, but I’ll wager it’s Chris “Dirty” Murphy of Connecticut.

    2. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      The panic in the air is so thick, you can cut it with a knife.

    3. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

      The Office meme - They're the same picture.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        The horror movie meme: "It's coming from inside the house!"

    4. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

      That is the sound of the gravy train coming to a halt.

      Did somebody say gravy!? - jeffy

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        A halt? It’s more like the gravy train is derailing and ready to skid into the ammonium nitrate plant near the natural gas pipeline.

        I’ve got popcorn ready.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

          Derail and spill toxic material for the epa to come, tell the locals to burn, then make fun of them and provide no compensation for the ecological disaster you caused.

          Too soon?

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          You forgot the gender pride, pro-Palestine, immigrant sanctuary festival on the college campus just down the hill from the plant.

    5. BYODB   5 months ago

      Ah, yes, this is the worst constitutional crisis involving Trump since the last worst constitutional crisis involving Trump.

      These morons are a broken record.

      For Trump's first term they had no idea what he might do, but given that we now have an entire 4 years under him to use as a guide their panic stricken bleating is just noise.

      Frankly, their lamentations are beautiful to hear but their panic indicates there's probably something they've been doing that they are terrified might be discovered.

      Their concern certainly isn't because they actually think 'democracy' is coming to an end, they are afraid they'll be found out. Then again, maybe I give them too much credit and they're so abysmally stupid that they really think Trump will end the American experiment that they've tried so long and hard to kill themselves.

  14. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    Just insane how far the left is in every institution.

    Collin Rugg
    @CollinRugg
    Canadian reverend and LGBT activist Brent Hawkes says Christians referring to Jesus Christ as “savior” is offensive to other religions.

    Even Canada’s churches suck. Wow.

    “I would hope that someday this church would see the possibility of changing that word [savior] because it is a stumbling block for so many…”

    “How do we explain that phrase to Muslims and to Jews and to Hindus?”

    1. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

      “How do we explain that phrase to Muslims and to Jews and to Hindus?”

      Not everybody can be right, there can only be one.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

        Speaker
        Hello, newcomers, and welcome. Can everybody hear me? [taps the mic a few times] Hello? Can everyb--? Okay. [the crowd quiets down] Uh, I'm the hell director. Uh, it looks like we have about 8,615 of you newbies today, and for those of you who are a little confused, uh, you are dead, and this is hell, so, abandon all hope and uh yada yada yada. Uh, we are now going to start the orientation process, which will last about--
        Man 4
        Hey, wait a minute, I shouldn't be here. I was a totally strict and devout Protestant! I thought we went to heaven!
        Hell director
        Yes, well I'm afraid you were wrong.
        Soldier
        I was a practicing Jehovah's Witness.
        Hell director
        Uh, you picked the wrong religion as well.
        Man 5
        Well, who was right? Who gets into heaven?
        Hell director
        I'm afraid it was the Mormons. Yes, the Mormons were the correct answer.
        Crowd
        [disappointed] Awww.
        Hell director
        So now I'd like to quickly introduce your new ruler and master for eternity, Satan.
        Satan
        [appears in a burst of flame] Oooyeah!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

          Damn, I love South Park.

          1. Rockstevo   5 months ago

            I don't, think Rowan Atkinson did it better

            https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ut116mBuPpg

            1. Jefferson Paul   5 months ago

              He's better as Mr. Bean than standup, from that one clip at least.

              Who doesn't love South Park? Are you an America-hating terrorist?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

                IMHO, he’s best as The Blackadder.

                1. Rockstevo   5 months ago

                  but which one, in my opinion it is 4, 2, 3 and then 1

                  1. Stuck in California   5 months ago

                    1, 4, 2, 3

                    Though 1 over 4 only because of it being new, fresh, and shakespearian. Extra points for bootstrapping into something so awesome.

              2. Rockstevo   5 months ago

                Missed a word, meant to say I don't know not I don't..of course I love south park

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          But which Mormons?

        3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

          KAR hardest hit.

    2. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      No mention of non believers?

    3. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

      "Even Canada’s churches suck."

      Pretty sure I could find a thousand American Episcopalian Reverends who would say the exact same thing. Progressives like to infiltrate enemy institutions and eat them alive from the inside out. No surprises there.

      Look at all the "libertarian" writers here at Reason who seem to be anything but. Look at Jeff working the comments. They're all the same thing as Brent Hawkes.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Yup. And even the "well-meaning" idiot progressives have the same effect. "I really admire your church/nation and I want to join and support your religion/Constitution, but there are just a few fundamental doctrines/rights that need fixing."

    4. Jerry B.   5 months ago

      “How do we explain that phrase to Muslims and to Jews and to Hindus?”

      Well, they can have their own savior.

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        The especially stupid part about the "Reverend's" statement invoking Islam, is that Jesus is the messiah in Islam too, and actually more important than Muhammad. They just don't think that he's God incarnate like Christianity does.

        1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

          Jesus calls people to not rape and murder, so he's like the boring sibling of Mohamad who is down with all of that

      2. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        We shouldn't call Patrick Mahomes a quarterback. How do we explain that position to the Browns or the Raiders?

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

          After last night, I’d think they get it

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   5 months ago

          After last night, the Urban Dictionary should forevermore have what the Eagles did to the Chiefs under "Open up a can of whoopass".

    5. mad.casual   5 months ago

      “How do we explain that phrase to Muslims and to Jews and to Hindus?”

      You mean again?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Crusade 2.0? (or is it 3.0?)

    6. BYODB   5 months ago


      “I would hope that someday this church would see the possibility of changing that word [savior] because it is a stumbling block for so many…”

      Jesus Christ, this guy over here clearly doesn't understand their own religion. Note that the man himself referred to himself in those terms, or at least his apostles that actually wrote it down said he did.

      'I am the way, the truth, and the life' is pretty unambiguous, and is directly at odd's with Muslims and Jews, although the Hindu have no reason to give a damn. They claim no descent from Abraham, and have no reason to care about him.

      If you don't believe Jesus is the son of god, why on this earth would you become a preacher for his faith? The mind, it boggles.

      I'm agnostic at best, and this is insane to me.

      1. Marshal   5 months ago

        If you don't believe Jesus is the son of god, why on this earth would you become a preacher for his faith?

        Straight cash, homey.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    ...a major deal that would allow the Caracas regime to boost its oil sales to the United States in exchange for accepting hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan deportees," reports the Miami Herald.

    Hopefully, I guess, they'll only take over the hotels in the few states that Trump lost.

  16. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    LA Mayor's original graft plan blows up. 750k for 3 months work to two liberals draws backlash.

    https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2025-02-08/critics-assail-decision-to-pay-recovery-czar-500-000-over-90-days

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      Ahh the Marxist stole money, what a shock

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Government contractor justice!

  17. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    Former dem insider:

    After the [CNN] debate, Hunter basically commandeered the White House. He sat in on all of the White House top level meetings. We had a former cocaine addict sitting in on the most sensitive meetings of the most consequential and important government in world history. Does that sit right with you? [....]

    Without security clearance mind you. That's who was basically running the show. So, Hunter basically battened down the hatches after the debate to make sure his father would only receive intel he pre-approved.

    https://redstate.com/nick-arama/2025/02/08/report-who-was-really-running-things-for-joe-biden-n2185369

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      I bet he didn’t have permission from Congress.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        And not even elected?

    2. Idaho-Bob   5 months ago

      C'mon, Hunter running the show is WAY better than some 19 year old called Big Balls.

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        Seems appropriate.

        https://www.medigraphic.com/cgi-bin/new/resumenI.cgi?IDARTICULO=84817

        Link between cocaine and small balls.

        1. Stuck in California   5 months ago

          Acute scrotum?

          I don't think I've ever heard a scrotum describes as cute before. I've heard it as breathtaking, but not cute.

    3. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      Amazing. Went from "I'm worth it" to "I'll do it for free" in one weekend. I bet his value is indeed zero.

    4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      And Hunter was always talking about presidential pardons for some reason.

  18. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    This is what Lying Jeffy and his masters are going batshit crazy with rage over.

    Elon Musk: To be clear, what the DOGE team and US Treasury have jointly agreed makes sense is the following:

    - Require that all outgoing government payments have a payment categorization code, which is necessary in order to pass financial audits. This is frequently left blank, making audits almost impossible.

    - All payments must also include a rationale for the payment in the comment field, which is currently left blank. Importantly, we are not yet applying ANY judgment to this rationale, but simply requiring that SOME attempt be made to explain the payment more than NOTHING!

    - The DO-NOT-PAY list of entities known to be fraudulent or people who are dead or are probable fronts for terrorist organizations or do not match Congressional appropriations must actually be implemented and not ignored. Also, it can currently take up to a year to get on this list, which is far too long. This list should be updated at least weekly, if not daily.

    The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn’t exist already!

    Yesterday, I was told that there are currently over $100B/year of entitlements payments to individuals with no SSN or even a temporary ID number. If accurate, this is extremely suspicious.

    When I asked if anyone at Treasury had a rough guess for what percentage of that number is unequivocal and obvious fraud, the consensus in the room was about half, so $50B/year or $1B/week!!

    This is utterly insane and must be addressed immediately.

    1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

      John Steakley writes:

      From some of what I see online and conversations with my lefty friends, the Dems seem to be coalescing around an innocuous-sounding theme of “Slow Down.” I.e., without debating the merits of what Trump is doing, can’t we just all agree that he’s doing it all way too quickly?

      This avoids any awkward debates about the merits of USAID funding transgender basket-weaving classes in Patagonia, and skips right to the real Democrat goal of just stalling Trump until we are closer to midterm elections.

      If the GOP indulges this for even a second, they deserve every midterm loss they will suffer.

      Keep going. Don’t slow down. Don’t even slow down to talk to the bitter losers asking you to slow down. You have at best four years of a GOP Congress and probably only two. Don’t waste time.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

        Jeffy’s probably going to come in full bore like yesterday. He’s like a cornered animal with his source of funding drying up and the possibility of having to find a real job outside his mother’s basement. I fully expect him to be pissy and pushing his narratives and lies daily.

        1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

          I'm guessing that 100 percent of the remuneration from Jeffy's bosses was USAID money.

      2. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   5 months ago

        All of your links seem to be ending up pointing back to this post, BTW.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

          That seems to be a flaw with the system Reason uses.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            Let's see ... This should be a link to your comment.

            ETA it is. It's not Reason screwing these up.

        2. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

          Weird, because I checked them before the edit period expired and they worked.

      3. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        From some of what I see online and conversations with my lefty friends, the Dems seem to be coalescing around an innocuous-sounding theme of “Slow Down.”

        Slow down? Sure, we'll give him the same two weeks that we gave covid.

      4. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        That's it. Two years, and a 3 vote majority which midterms can erase. The only thing working in the GOP's favor is to uncover enough grift and corruption to make the Dems seem like yesterday's fish. If they slow down or let Dems or RINOs get any say in the matter, the GOP will swing Democrat in the midterms.

        I think they've got a chance what with all they've uncovered in just two weeks. But they're not called the Stupid Party for no reason.

        1. BYODB   5 months ago

          One stumbling block are the RINO themselves. They aren't going to go along to get along one might think, as they are part of 'the resistance' and are generally Democrats by a different name.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            Yes, there is so little margin for error that as much as I'd like 2026 to be different, I don't think the GOP will still have a majority.

      5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        "Slow down"? Maybe we can put this in terms progressives might understand.

        Imagine you have been after a serial rapist cult for years, but were thwarted by a good-ol' boy mayor and police chief who you suspected were part of the abuser network. But a new outsider mayor gets elected and appoints you to her advisory panel to clean up the town. You bust into a Saturday session at the school and find the mayor, police chief, principal, local newspaper owner, C of C board, and all the other town establishment types raping all the middle school girls dressed in hand maid outfits. Question: how slow should you go, so you don't disrupt all the good things the school, police department, newspaper, etc. do?

        1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

          If it's the rapists themselves advising? As low as is humanly possible.

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      The fact the databases don't use SSN as a unique identifier is mind boggling.

      1. Jerry B.   5 months ago

        You say that like you believe that SSNs are actually individual identification.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

          The terrifying part is Big Balls could be sitting there right now gazing at my SSN. Nobody but me has ever seen it before. It's like super secret. Hell I don't even know what it is.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

            Except for your bank, your employer, your mortgage holder, the IRS, your credit card companies….

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              SSN? Meh. But reviewing your Permanent Record and your current social credit score could be a problem.

            2. rbike   5 months ago

              In college our SSN was our student Id number. Posted on our results. 1980s.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

                I’ll do one better. In college, our initial computer password was our SS#. Yes, right there, not just in the open, but let anyone into our computer account on campus. This was the late 1990s.

              2. MK Ultra   5 months ago

                On DC driver's permits as recently at 25 years ago.

      2. BYODB   5 months ago

        In fairness, the SSN was supposedly never to be used as identification but at the same time everyone should have known that was always bullshit.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

      https://redstate.com/streiff/2025/02/08/the-us-treasury-spent-how-much-illegally-now-you-know-why-the-left-wants-to-stop-doge-n2185365

      Congress illegally spent at least $516 billion in 2024 on programs for which there was no authorization. Yes, billion, with a "b." A stunning report by the Congressional Budget Office underscores the reason for the legal assault upon President Trump's right to audit payments by the Treasury Department.

      In a report titled "Expired and Expiring Authorizations of Appropriations for Fiscal Year 2024," the CBO observes: "Historically, House and Senate rules restrict lawmakers from considering an appropriation if it lacks a current authorization." Nevertheless, "CBO estimates that $516 billion was appropriated for 2024 for activities with expired authorizations, which the agency identified for each House and Senate authorizing committee and appropriations subcommittee." That $516 billion in illegal payments cover "1,264 authorizations of appropriations that expired before the beginning of fiscal year 2024 and 251 authorizations of appropriations that were set to expire by the end of fiscal year 2024." The legal authority for some of these payments expired 40 — that's not a typo — years ago.

  19. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

    "the relative pay of US public school teachers was 26.6% less than that of similar nonteacher college graduates in 2023."

    A) one of the lowest college entrance exam scores of any major, but one of highest GPAs.

    B) self reporting by teachers on BLS surveys shows they work on average 32 hours a week for 10 months. Even less if teacher days off and half days included.

    Seems they are still overpaid. Also their degrees focused on race marxism and SEL have devalued the product.

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      Learn to code!

      1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

        work on average 32 hours a week

        Wrong! I've always heard that teachers are there from sunup to sundown. And then they spend all night grading papers.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

          And they spend their own money on crayons.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

      "one of the lowest college entrance exam scores of any major, but one of highest GPAs."

      Because all the courses are intentionally designed to be easy enough for 'education majors' to pass with flying colors.

      There aren't any gatekeeper courses like organic chemistry, or thermodynamics, or power systems (electrical engineering), or even operating systems and compiler theory (comp sci) that people fail 3 or 4 times before passing or just giving up and switching to an easier major, like education.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        And New Jersey decided they don't even need to pass literacy tests.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          Readin is raciss!

      2. BYODB   5 months ago

        Well, think about it.

        An education major that's in, say, early childhood education only really needs to know what kids of that age are being taught. Things like 'what is a triangle' are things most adults should be able to identify. After all, these are 5 year olds they are 'teaching'.

        A teacher who wants to teach high school would only need to know things that are taught...in high school.

        Notably, those are things that any college person would have already taken, and pretty recently to boot for high school in particular. I can understand they may need some minor instruction in how to teach those things, but a 4 year degree is an absurd requirement.

        In fact, the idea someone needs a college education to teach things they literally should have just learned themselves is actually more than a little ludicrous. Those who get a Ph.D. in early childhood education are even more baffling, as they are in essence merely perpetuating the nonsense cycle.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          I tutored education majors in their 300 level classes while in college, mainly math and science.

          Their Math 302 class was titled Theory of Counting.

          Their final was converting to hex, binary, and Roman numerals.

          A third failed every year. (And no, not the ones I tutored)

          1. BYODB   5 months ago

            I'm well aware. I actually took a math class for education majors to finish out my degree since math is one of my weaker points and it was incredibly easy, even for me. It's actually amusing that I ended up in jobs that require a lot of math, but I know Excel and am decent at math theory and that's all that matters for analysis.

            I was able to convince my college that it was good enough, so I got my BS with BS.

      3. Randy Sax   5 months ago

        Dynamics. Thermo was cake compared to dynamics.

  20. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

    A certain amount of schadenfreude directed at The Other Liz feels so right.

    Ooof

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      Should be plural to include ENB.

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      Yeh, I had to think about that one too.

  21. tracerv   5 months ago

    said Trump, adding that "cleanliness and efficiency are good but they gotta get tough on the thugs. They can't be nice." Honestly? Hard agree.

    Good comment Liz. Sometimes you have to take out the trash for normal society to function.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Does "take out the trash" mean throwing your useless brother-in-law out of the basement, and telling your commie gender-activist daughter to shut the fuck up or pay her own tuition?

      1. tracerv   5 months ago

        Yes. Yes it does.

  22. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

    Trump also said the treasury will no longer make pennies! It cost more than 2 cents to manufacture a penny.

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      Great. Now everyone will hoard them.

      1. shadydave   5 months ago

        If you're a NEET and have nothing to do, you can sort through pennies to separate out the copper ones from the zinc ones.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

          Why? What am I going to do with the copper ones?

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

            Make your own Romex. Duh.

        2. Dillinger   5 months ago

          I still look for the wheats.

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      That's a nice jab, and I'd like to get rid of pennies too. But it's as economically ignorant as everything else Trump says.

      Consider a $40K taxi. No individual fare comes even close to paying for the taxi. How long do pennies last, how many times do they change hands? Do they facilitate financial transactions? That's their worth.

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

        Nowadays , they don’t facilitate any transactions. This isn’t 1972

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          The hell they don't. I get pennies back all the time. Not everyone trusts the government with plastic payments.

          1. Randy Sax   5 months ago

            Sure you get them back. But do you use them to pay? Or are they all in a jar in your kitchen or something?

      2. BYODB   5 months ago

        It's actually not economically illiterate. One should not produce currency that costs more to manufacture than the value of the currency itself.

        Of course, addressing the reasons why a penny costs more than a penny to manufacture is beyond the pale for our government.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          I wonder if he realized he made a Keyenesian defense of the penny lol.

        2. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   5 months ago

          The question isn't whether they cost more to make than they are worth, it's whether they can be recycled for more than they are worth. Within a low single digits factor, of course. The position about them facilitating transactions is a worthwhile one. So long as we don't end up in a specie fight where the US is minting pennies that can be easily converted as raw metal for more than their value, they still have higher value as a means of exchange than they do as raw material.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Time to kill the nickel, too.

      1. Eeyore   5 months ago

        Why stop at the nickel? Kill the dime.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          I still like the dime, so we can have first order decimal dollar amounts. I don't think people are ready to round up/down to the nearest dollar (or half dollar).

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

            Just kick FDR off the dime.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   5 months ago

    A new book, The Age Of Choice, asks whether having options truly makes us free.

    1. No one is taking away your freedoms.
    2. You're wrong to be concerned with your lost freedoms.
    3. Your freedoms are being taken away and it's actually a good thing.

    The NYTimes has skipped to Number 3?

    1. Ajsloss   5 months ago

      Nobody needs that many choices.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        Freedom is slavery!

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   5 months ago

      Clearly they read the giver and came to the wrong conclusion

    3. mad.casual   5 months ago

      Eating the bugs is easier to like when they're the only option.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        And already mixed into your chocolate ration.

    4. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

      “That will never happen, and when it does, boy will you [homophobes, transphobes, racists, sexists, whatever] deserve it.”

    5. Social Justice is neither   5 months ago

      Obviously applies to those that chose the NYT.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        But for NYT subscribers: "Don't worry, we only need to take away freedom from those nasty people. YOUR freedoms are important to us."

    6. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      Has anyone ever claimed having options sets you free? It's the other way round -- being free creates options.

      I should be used to elites telling the peasants to give up what the elites think is too dangerous. But it always amazes me.

      1. VinniUSMC   5 months ago

        Are you free if you have no options?

    7. Moonrocks   5 months ago

      NYTimes: anti-choice.

  24. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    The global elite have perfected a system of moral blackmail through which they convert third world suffering into personal wealth and status. They position themselves as noble humanitarian experts who care deeply about things like global poverty, to justify their own sinecures extracted from the national purse.

    Dem congressman's charity has more than $30 million tied up in Cayman Islands funds

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Plantation 2.0

  25. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

    OT:
    Turns out the superbowl is a total scam.
    The Chiefs were sent to the superbowl by bad ref’s calls so they could be assured Taylor swift would boost the viewership.
    False stories spread about musk spending $40 million dollars on ads so people would watch the entire disaster of a game to see ads that didn’t exist.
    Most of the commercials sucked.
    What was the budget for the halftime show? Like $50 or something?

    1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      Saw many advertisers like bud light and Carl's Jr confirm they removed the woke mind virus in advertising. Was good to see.

      1. mad.casual   5 months ago

        I've been saying for a while now that Snoop Dogg is like 3 decades past irrelevance even as self-parody.

        The commercial with him and Tom Brady made my kids groan and they even still have stupid arguments like that.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Snoop was accused of murder... talking about hate. Was the worst commercial.

          1. mad.casual   5 months ago

            I can't stand the HeGetsUs ad with Johnnie Cash covering Depeche Mode's Personal Jesus.

            Like having the Goo Goo Doll's "Black Balloon", or similar, in a commercial warning about overdoses.

            1. BYODB   5 months ago

              Have to admit it's a good cover though.

        2. Super Scary   5 months ago

          I think he's seeing a new boom of popularity because he appears to be willing to show up for anything at this point. He was even in Fortnite not too long ago.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      "What was the budget for the halftime show? Like $50 or something?"

      For the "talent".
      The stage workers had to bill $100K or more; that was a lot of properties to move in and then out.

    3. mad.casual   5 months ago

      DeJean pick-6ing Mahomes, in the Super Bowl, with Trump in attendance, during Black History Month was worse than The Holocaust (worth the price of watching).

      Not to be outdone: The Floor on FOX following the game, a Black contestant challenges at white guy whose category was 'mountains' and lost when he failed to identify Stone Mountain.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        Not a fan of the Eagles, but am a fan of 'anyone but the Chiefs' and boy, howdy, was that EVER an 'anyone but the Chiefs' game!

        1. Commenter_XY   5 months ago

          The birds shit all over the chiefs.

          1. Super Scary   5 months ago

            I don't think I've ever watched such a one-sided Super Bowl.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

              If the Eagles hadn't given up defense in the last 3 minutes of the game, it could have been a shut-out.

            2. tracerv   5 months ago

              You must be young. Go watch the 49ers dismantle the Broncos sometimes. I think Jerry Rice just caught another td pass.

        2. mad.casual   5 months ago

          Yeah, I went in with an "Oh great, another Super Bowl that I don't care about." mindset but was actually entertained. The Eagles defensive line and the Chiefs lack of an offensive line was a spectacle to behold.

          Strahan at the half made a quip about how the Chiefs need to figure out how to get off the field, presumably referring to their defense, but it was really more broadly apropos.

          1. Dillinger   5 months ago

            I'm just glad State Farm lost I'm tired of them.

          2. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

            Mahomes pouting face was fun to see.

    4. Stuck in California   5 months ago

      I don't get why anyone would be surprised, or even cares.

      1. The NFL hates me, and people like me. They've made that very clear, over and over. Why would I watch football? I don't need to give money to a private entity that views me with contempt. I have the government for that.

      2. The superbowl is a thing where people plan to WATCH THE ADS... why would them putting some pop tart in the stands to bolster their alternative demographics be a surprise?

      3. How the fuck does anyone enjoy a 3 hour spectacle that's twenty minutes of game and two and a half hours of commercials? I've been in a bar during a foosball game and, frankly, the constant barrage of advertisements blaring from the televisions is horrible. I cannot stand it. I don't know any of Taylor Swift's songs, but I'm guessing I could say the same of her. They're a good match.

  26. Ajsloss   5 months ago

    A new book, The Age Of Choice, asks whether having options truly makes us free. The New York Times review (with predictable concluding paragraph) is here.

    Common sense choice control!

    1. Eeyore   5 months ago

      Being required to pass a federal background check in order to subscribe to The New York Times seems like an ok idea to me.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Well, left unattended too many people make "wrong" choices.

  27. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    Couple this with the fact that the Democrats have reached historic lows in the polls. The spell has been broken and people are seeing the ruling class for what they really are.

    CBS just recorded their highest approval rating for President Trump in their polling history this past week.

    The thing that makes this newsworthy is the age split: Trump's doing better among the young than the old!

    1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

      One of the underrated aspects of why the Democratic Party is in the dumps right now is that they are so lame and cringe.

      That’s showing up with young voters.

      Luckily, they’ve made David Hogg vice chair of the party so that’s sure to up their appeal.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        They need bat-shit-crazy Gretta as assistant.

        1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

          I'm pretty sure Gretta and Hogg are actually the same person. Like Adam Sandler in Jack and Jill.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

            In thinking about it, I've never seen them in one room...

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              And have you see either one naked?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

                Not so sure I’d want to.

        2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          I want someone with literary skills to write a modern Grimm's fairy tale about Hansen and Greta.

    2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      Jeffsarc hardest hit.

    3. BYODB   5 months ago

      The young are noticing that the entire game has been rigged against them, and the proverbial can that has been kicked down the road may finally be coming to rest on their generation.

      And by 'the young' I really mean millennials and younger, which is something like age 40 and below.

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        "Don't trust anyone over thirty"

  28. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

    Don't worry, unregulated Islamic illegal immigration will fix that, meanwhile you should really save the planet and have another abortion, madamoiselle.

    Unbelievable but true, there more people in France born in 1946 (and still alive) than there are people born in 2024

  29. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

    Seems like a judge has laid down some rules about who can do what vis DOGE over at Treasury

    https://pjmedia.com/matt-margolis/2025/02/09/this-ruling-is-absolutely-insane-elon-musk-and-others-respond-to-obama-judges-ruling-n4936828

    According to the order, only “civil servants with a need for access to perform their job duties within the Bureau of Fiscal Services who have passed all background checks and security clearances and taken all information security training called for in federal statutes and Treasury Department regulations” can access the data, while “all political appointees, special government employees, and government employees detailed from an agency outside the Treasury Department” cannot, pending a hearing scheduled for February 13.

    The judge also ordered that any Treasury data that has already been collected must be destroyed.

    Since the Treasury secretary is a political appointee, this outrageous ruling essentially bars him from viewing or managing the sensitive financial data of his own department. This unprecedented act not only strips the Treasury secretary of a fundamental responsibility but also undermines the executive branch's authority to effectively oversee its financial operations.

    Judge Paul Engelmayer, who made the ruling, is an Obama appointee.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

      The judge just gave an unconstitutional ruling that cannot and should not be enforced. I’d suggest pulling an Andrew Jackson and just ignoring it.

      1. Weigel's Cock Ring   5 months ago

        His ruling is most likely valid for all the spending data that is considered classified (black ops and that sort of thing), but there is no way in hell that ALL Treasury spending data is considered classified I simply don't believe that.

        And even in the highly unlikely event that it is, Trump as president has full and unilateral declassification authority anyway, no judge in America has the authority to stop him from declassifying any particular program or piece of data that he wants to.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

          "...but there is no way in hell that ALL Treasury spending data is considered classified I simply don't believe that..."

          Keeping that information from the public (whose money it is) would seem to be a VERY bad idea. The judge seems to think 'accountability' is something only "Trumpistas" (TY, S.G.T) prefer.

      2. Dillinger   5 months ago

        "the Supreme Court can block me, but they can't stop me." ~~ Brandon

    2. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

      Why do state AGs have standing to sue to stop something that is 100% within the exective branch of the federal government's perview?

      1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

        Because progressive judges allow it, foster it, and reward it.

        1. Dillinger   5 months ago

          dying to see the Enforcement Phase I wish someone would walk through a ruling.

      2. Mickey Rat   5 months ago

        It would be interesting to compare this with any GOP lawsuits initiated by state officials.

        1. Spiritus Mundi   5 months ago

          Like Texas and the 2020 election.

  30. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    So, Liz Warren wants to protect us from harm. I guess owning too much stuff can be harmful, so I should be grateful that she will protect me.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

      Except for harmful pharmaceuticals. Warren is down with giving us those as she proudly wears Pfizer across her uniform.

  31. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'You might think, given that less than a third of the state's fourth graders have been deemed proficient in reading, and just over a third proficient in math, with test scores that have failed to improve for the last 16 years, that teachers in California would wait to have better job performance before they demand more money.

    'You would be thinking wrong.'

    But in opposite-world California, wrong is right. And under their economic system, rewards go to those who don't perform (or anti-perform). So of course teachers "deserve" more money, and it's mean (and maybe MAGA-Nazi) to challenge their feelings.

  32. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

    "That's the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau (CFPB), an institution so misguided in both mission and execution that it does not deserve mere reform—it should be abolished outright."

    There are several other federal 'institutions' deserving the same fate.

  33. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'Musk continues: "The above super obvious and necessary changes are being implemented by existing, long-time career government employees, not anyone from DOGE. It is ridiculous that these changes didn't exist already!"

    'If that is in fact what is happening, all of this makes complete and total sense.'

    Why do you hate Democrats?

  34. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'New York "should focus on safety and cleanliness in the subway," said Trump, adding that "cleanliness and efficiency are good but they gotta get tough on the thugs. They can't be nice." Honestly? Hard agree.'

    OK, Liz, what do you think about charging subway fares that would at least cover the cost of operations?

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      Oh, no. People who drive cars should totally pay for the subway they don’t use. That’s the government way!

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      Read an article years ago about the history of NYC subways. The first ones were private, charged a nickle, and made a profit. Then the city took them over and bowed to political pressure to not raise prices and to not streamline operations. It was too long ago to remember what they said staff count should be and what prices should be, but the conclusion was that subways would survive and thrive as a for-profit organization, riders would put up with it and probably end up appreciating a clean, safe, reliable system.

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    'a major deal that would allow the Caracas regime to boost its oil sales to the United States in exchange for accepting hundreds of thousands of Venezuelan deportees'

    How about a retail program? Fill up at a Citgo* station and get your own illegal Venezuelan!

    *In case you forgot, Venezuelan state oil company PDVSA still owns Citgo. And not many buyers seem interested in the court-ordered sale.

  36. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

    Oh goody, another chance for the Trumpies to showcase their allegiance and ignorance.

    1. Tariffs are taxes on imports, paid by American consumers. Foreigners do not pay them.

    2. Tariffs subsidize inefficient manufacturers whose products consumers have already shown they don't want. This reduces the production of useful products and raises their prices.

    3. I love the idea of foreign governments taxing their people to subsidize cheaper products for Americans, which leaves consumers more money to buy more stuff, including American products. Foreign citizens might not like paying for my purchases, but that's not my problem. Tariff fans hate the idea so much that they tax the imports to make sure Americans pay their fair share and boost government revenue.

    4. Proponents claim tariffs are retaliation for foreign tariffs on American goods, yet the tariffs go to the general fund so government can spend more, instead of paying the tariffs of the American exporters they are alleged to help.

    5. Isn't it amazing that the same people who yell CUT SPENDING and CUT TAXES get such thrills from taxes which inrease government spending and decrease Americans' purchasing power? Can they spell h-y-p-o-c-r-i-t-e? Tune in tomorrow, same bat-time, same bat-channel, to find out!

    6. Sometimes tariff lovers trot out "national security", that root password to the Constitution, as if America ought to be entirely self-sufficient in everything consumed. How this applies to washing machines and garlic, they have never explained.

    7. The face-saving gestures by Canada and Mexico which Trump used to justify removing his tariff threats are nothing burgers which show how shallow his threats were.

    8. Trade deficits are increased by foreign investments. Yet Trump claims he wants to decrease trade deficits and increase foreign investment. Trump is an economic illiterate. Trumpies will never admit it; if they address it at all, they call it useless theory. Bunch of brainiacs, they are.

    9. Tariffs are central planning. Central planners hate individualism. Tariff lovers are statists and hate freedom and don't trust free markets.

    Jesse will attack all this as strawmen. How anyone can rebut strawmen is beyond me, but if he thinks he can, he is welcome to try.

    He hasn't, and he won't.

    His henchmen will respond with short insults devoid of meaning or relevance.

    Jesse and his henchmen will follow the sarcjeffy playbook of saying they have already rebutted all this and why should they provide links I wouldn't believe anyway?

    Then sarc will jump in to claim me as his best buddy now that I hate Jesse, notwithstanding that one reason I know Jesse doesn't believe his own tariffmania is because for everything else, he provides excellent links and references. For tariffs? None that I have seen yet. Sarc? Nary a one. Even when he deigns to claim he has googled and found references, he won't provide either the search terms or the resultant links. Pour sarc!

    And for all you Trumpistas who are too smitten to ever admit Trump ain't perfect, here, let the Coasters tell you all about Big Foot Mae.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I-KpW1eBO8k

    1. Don't look at me! (No longer muted!)   5 months ago

      The use of “trumpista” labels you as unworthy of serious consideration.

      1. mad.casual   5 months ago

        Once again, the dude literally identifies as Capital-S "Stupid".

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          Two insults.

          1. mad.casual   5 months ago

            It's really just a statement of fact. You taking insult to (objective statements about) the handle you chose is really a you problem.

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

              It's fun to watch you clowns tell each other how brilliant you are. One might ask how MAD you are. Of course I intend that as an insult, just as you intended yours as an insult. You've gotta be pretty damn dumb to think everyone else is as dumb as you.

              1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

                It's enjoyable pointing out to TDS-addled shit piles like you how un-self-aware you are, and watching you blame everybody else.
                Fuck off and die, asshole.

        2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Capital S - Sarcasmic is more appropriate.

      2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        One insult.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Sarcasmic does this victim hood bullshit after attacking others too.

          Very funny.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            What, no rebuttals yet?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

      "And for all you Trumpistas who are too smitten to ever admit Trump ain't perfect, here, let the Coasters tell you all about Big Foot Mae."

      And for all you TDS-addled piles of shit (like Stupid Government Tricks) who imagine some sort of cult, stuff your TDS up your ass to keep your head company.
      Fuck off and die, asshole.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        Three insults.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

          To a TDS-addled shit deserving of nothing else. Fuck off and die, asshole.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            Gorsh, what an intelligent contribution.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

              More than TDS-addled, self-deluded, shit piles deserve

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

                Yet you bless me with what I don't deserve anyway. How nice of you.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

                  You're welcome, TDS-addled pile of shit.

        2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Poor sarc. Lol.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

      While tariffs may cost a consumer some, what is the cost to the nation as a whole by outsourcing things such as steel production? That may be more important from a national security perspective than just outsourcing cheap steel. Also, to be frank, we had tariffs on foreign imports all through the late nineteenth century and early twentieth century with minimal to no ill effect on costs, but it did build up our industry so we didn’t wind up like Brazil or Argentina. This low tariff or tariff-free trade has only been a concoction of the latter twentieth century and early twenty-first century when we outsourced most of our industrial capacity, the same industrial capacity that won us WWII.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        And along comes a mercantilist, no insult at least, but no rebuttals either.

        1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Cries about being insulted while blindly dismissing actual facts with the current leftist word of the day. Lol.

          God damn sarc. This is why it isn't worth talking economics with you. Have have no interest in reality or educating yourself beyong the one month economics lesson you learned.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            That was not facts, it was a restatement of mercantilism without facts.

            And you are still afraid of trying to rebut any of my points, because you don't have any rebuttals that would stand up.

            No rebuttals -- sarc
            No links -- sarc
            No quotes -- sarc

        2. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

          You brushed it off as mercantilist without addressing the question I started out with. I don’t know where you are, but I’ve been in the rust belt most of my life and I’ve seen what unbalanced, one-sided free trade does to a region. Maybe you’re on the coasts, sun belt, or silicon valley where you’ve yet to run into the consequences of unbalanced, one-sided free trade. When it finally deindustrializes your region, then maybe you’ll have something more worthwhile to say on tariffs.

    4. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      Three insults, one mercantilist, and no rebuttals. Surprise, surprise.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

        What do we get when we hit 10 insults?

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          No more enlightened that with the first one. You guys can stay as ignorant as you want, no skin off my back.

        2. mad.casual   5 months ago

          More Sarcasmic-style, "mean girls!" whining about how much more enlightened and noble and non-partisan he is than everyone else and how much better his 1 dimensional conception of reality is the only one that would work... if only everyone would just behave the way he believes they should and continue to ignore that his stupidity on this specific issue has been generally debunked 100, or more, times over.

          1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            He has definitely gone full sarc. Both with victimhood and ignorance.

            Been an amazing downfall.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

              TDS will do that.

              1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

                Lack of rebuttals shines through.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

                  Did we get 10 yet?

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

            "More Sarcasmic-style, "mean girls!" whining about how much more enlightened and noble and non-partisan he is than everyone else and how much better his 1 dimensional conception of reality is the only one that would work..."

            ^ Yeah, the assumption that anyone who finds Trump the best alternative available supports him in every case.
            Pure TDS from Stupid Commenter Tricks.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   5 months ago

        What are you expecting in response to your insult-laden screed?

        1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

          Just what I got.

          * No rebuttals, links, or quotes from Jesse.
          * Insults from everybody else.

          MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

            Being called on being a TDS-addled shit!

            MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!

    5. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

      Here's a study showing Trumps last set of steel tariffs were paid by Americans

      Trade theory suggests that tariffs levied by a large country, such as the U.S., should cause foreign firms to lower prices. However, until the 2018 trade war, economists have not had the opportunity to study tariffs on large economies in recent history due to the reluctance of governments in these economies to apply substantial tariffs. Thus, economists were forced to assess the impact of tariffs based on estimates of export supply curves obtained from non-tariff data and as well as evidence of incomplete pass-through of exchange rates. (e.g., Amiti, Itskhoki and Konings (2014), Amiti, Itskhoki and Konings (2019), Broda, Limão and Weinstein (2008) and Goldberg and Knetter (1997)). The recent U.S. application of substantial tariffs on imports from major trading partners provides a natural experiment for understanding these effects. Quite surprisingly, we have found that in most sectors, these U.S. tariffs have been completely passed on to U.S. firms and consumers.

      https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w26610/w26610.pdf

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        Watch out, Jesse's going to call you sarc if you start saying treasonable things like that.

        1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

          I'll be disappointed if he doesn't.

        2. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

          Lol. Cry more sarc.

          1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

            And he did.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

        Apply some critical thinking skills here:

        Silicon, iron and aluminum are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th most common elements in the Earth's crust. If it is somehow cheaper to put them on a boat, fuel them across the Pacific Ocean and through the Panama Canal, then the problem is regulatory. Tariffs will put pressure on up-stream industry to solve the regulatory issues to normalize prices.

        You know where they use a lot of cement, steel and aluminum but have never mined it? CA, NY and MA. I see the left objecting to a solution to a problem they created and have been collecting graft from for decades.

        1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

          Apply some critical thinking skills here: Silicon, iron and aluminum are the 2nd, 3rd and 4th most common elements in the Earth's crust. If it is somehow cheaper to put them on a boat, fuel them across the Pacific Ocean and through the Panama Canal, then the problem is regulatory.

          Critical thinking gets me to address the regulations instead of punishing the consumers with planned economy coercion to not obtain the less regulated, cheaper item from elsewhere.

      3. Incunabulum   5 months ago

        We know this already.

        You still fail to address any of the rebuttals. Instead you keep repeating the 'tariffs are bad economics'. We already know this. We agree on this. Can you move on to addressing the other topics?

        1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

          We know this already.....Can you move on to addressing the other topics?

          Damned if do, damned if I don't. Just yesterday, I get this criticism:

          Because he is a common sea lion. Rarely providing evidence for his arguments while demanding hundreds of citations for anything he disagrees with....He is just boring. He could easily make counter arguments instead of his sea lion routine....I don't care if someone disagrees with me if they can actually back up their arguments.

          https://reason.com/2025/02/09/the-strange-case-of-the-immortality-key/?comments=true#comment-10908022

          So no. I will not move on to other topics because I sense the real motivation here is only that people just don't want their echo chamber narrative challenged.

          As for your Canada issue, what are you getting at? What is your specific question about Canada tariffs?

          The sources I posted today clearly state that tariffs, even used to manipulate or as counter-tariffs, are harmful to the imposing nation. Even if not imposed, but only used as a threat, they have costs as discussed on the other article.

          While it's possible to have gains outweigh the costs, this has not been the case so far, even with our "art of the deal" president.

      4. See.More   5 months ago

        ... we have found that in most sectors, these U.S. tariffs have been completely passed on to U.S. firms and consumers.

        Well, that's a "duh!" All taxes on businesses are passed on to someone else. Either employees receive less compensation (or fewer employees are hired), investors receive lower dividends, and/or consumers pay higher prices.

    6. A Thinking Mind   5 months ago

      No falsehoods detected.

    7. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

      Another:

      Overall, using standard economic methods, we find that the full incidence of the tariff falls on domestic consumers, with a reduction in U.S. real income of $1.4 billion per month by the end of 2018.

      https://www.nber.org/papers/w25672 (abstract)

      https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w25672/w25672.pdf (Full text: may be pay-walled)

    8. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

      Jesse will attack all this as strawmen. How anyone can rebut strawmen is beyond me, but if he thinks he can, he is welcome to try.
      He hasn't, and he won't.
      His henchmen will respond with short insults devoid of meaning or relevance.
      Jesse and his henchmen will follow the sarcjeffy playbook of saying they have already rebutted all this and why should they provide links I wouldn't believe anyway?
      And for all you Trumpistas who are too smitten to ever admit Trump ain't perfect,

      Lol, what the fuck? Has someone just told me that they're declaring war on me?

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        He has gone full sarcasmic.

        Doesn't know what a strawman is apparently.

        Struggling with reading comprehension.

        Projection.

        Full sarcasmic.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

          What if somebody knows exactly what a straw man argument is, but thinks they can score points with it?

          1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            Double sarcasmic?

            1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

              Jesse and his Henchmen, not bad for a band name. Pretty crappy music, though.

              1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

                "Henchpersons" you sexist asshole.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic (On The List!)   5 months ago

                  Ahem, I’m more of a hench-creature myself.

    9. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

      For someone who continues to lose every discussion on economics, always retreating to simple bumper stickers and intro to economics talking points...

      Calling others on the topic ignorant is very sarc like lol.

      It is especially funny as you continue to ignore or even adress a single argument presented to you. Yet you continue to double down.

      1. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

        A discussion would require rebuttals. When are you going to join?

        1. Incunabulum   5 months ago

          I've rebutted you several times - you still ignore Canada's tariffs and the utility of tariffs as tools of foreign policy.

          You fail to address the concept of taking short-term losses (tariffs restricting trade) against longer-term gains (tariff pressures incentivizing trade partners to open up trade).

          1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

            He doesn't even understand supply shift or the fact a lot of the tariff gets absorbed by import agents and exporters, always claiming it fully falls on citizens despite all evidence against his claim.

            He also argues often that IP theft is fine and bears no cost on industry, pushed as costs to consumers. It is amazing.

            Using tariffs to stop bad foreign acts is perfectly acceptable if it changes behaviors and costs we bear from foreign markets free market abuses.

            But he is a CATO acolyte it seems. Unable to understand he was lied to when they started calling advantaged markets free markets.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

            You're engaging a TDS-addled pile of shit with no self-awareness.

    10. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

      A report that Trump 1.0/Biden's tariffs did not improve China's unfair trade practices:

      China has not eliminated many of its technology transfer-related acts, policies, and practices. Instead of pursuing fundamental reform, the Chinese government largely took superficial measures aimed at addressing negative perceptions of its technology transfer-related acts, policies, and practices. At the same time, China has persisted and even become more aggressive, particularly through cyber intrusions and cybertheft, in its attempts to acquire and absorb foreign technology, which further burden or restrict U.S. commerce.

      https://ustr.gov/sites/default/files/05.14.2024%20Four%20Year%20Review%20of%20China%20Tech%20Transfer%20Section%20301%20(Final).pdf (page 15)

      1. BYODB   5 months ago

        Not sure why anyone would think otherwise in terms of tariff, this has been studied ad nauseum and it's fairly well established economic truism.

        Trade with China should be entirely halted though, as they are not an honest trade partner in the first place. Being reliant on them for, frankly, anything is a poor plan for the future.

        Empowering foreign nations that have no concept of intellectual property simply cuts out the middle man of spies stealing that information indirectly, such as plans for American nuclear weapons that ended up China and resulted in their current nuclear arsenal.

        The fact we still trade with them after that little boondoggle is, frankly, absurd. Raise your hand if you think trade with a nation that stole plans for the most destructive weapon on planet Earth is wise.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

          Seriously, though, how the fuck are governments supposed to be funded? Property taxes are essentially a perpetual lien on private property. Income taxes are even worse. For the government to take the product of a man's labor before he even gets the use of it?

          The only essential role of the government is to enforce contracts. Taxing commerce is the only fair method to collect the resources required to support commerce.

          1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

            Seriously, though, how the fuck are governments supposed to be funded?

            This is a red herring. Trump is not removing income taxes. It's nice in theory, but the real question is do you want income taxes or do you want income taxes and tariffs.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

              This is a red herring. Trump is not removing income taxes.

              Then you are not listening to any real coverage of what Trump has been saying. He has stated repeatedly he wants to cut income taxes once the tariffs go into effect. At least he is saying it. And if he cuts spending it could actually happen.

              1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

                At least he is saying it.

                What Trump says isn't worth the salt in his vittles.

          2. BYODB   5 months ago

            I agree, and so too did the founders of this country.

            The problem is that the leviathan can not be supported on tariff revenue, which is of course mainly a problem for the people who support the growth of the leviathan not the people who want to destroy it.

            Trump isn't suggesting a move away from income taxes, property taxes, sales taxes, or anything of the kind. He's using tariff's as international pressure, with some others thrown in for...questionable reasons at best. I have no real issue with tariff's being used as a strong arm in negotiations, and it's telling that Europe laughed when he suggested no tariffs at all.

            The negative effects of tariffs are well known, but then so too is trade policy that incentivizes foreign production of domestic goods. The 'elite' workers in particular industries are doing very well, but the average guy on the street might end up unemployed if put into competition with, say, Indian or Chinese labor. Their dollar might buy more, but they may not have any dollars to spend.

            All of this needs to be reformed, and in a way that doesn't disadvantage American labor. I don't have the magic bullet for that, and frankly I doubt anyone else does either. A systemic collapse is the most likely vector at this point as the house of cards is too big to nip around the edges.

            If COVID didn't show people some of the dangers of the web of interconnected trade we use today I don't know what would, but in some fairness those types of events are rare and far in between too. Their failure creates a worldwide disaster though, rather than a more contained disaster, so I suppose pick your poison.

        2. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

          Raise your hand if you think trade with a nation that stole plans for the most destructive weapon on planet Earth is wise.

          *raises hand*

          China has the 2nd largest economy in the world on their way to #1. If the US stops trading with them, we just put ourselves at a disadvantage because other nations won't stop. We'll only hasten our downfall and lose out on a huge amount of economic activity. Even cold pizza is better than no pizza.

          1. BYODB   5 months ago


            China has the 2nd largest economy in the world on their way to #1. If the US stops trading with them, we just put ourselves at a disadvantage because other nations won't stop. We'll only hasten our downfall and lose out on a huge amount of economic activity. Even cold pizza is better than no pizza.

            This amounts to authentic frontier gibberish. All those countries also trade with us, and we're the biggest customer for China.

            Admittedly, it's unlikely that the U.S. would ever deregulate enough to actually compete with China on labor or environmental policy which is much of their advantage. It's unclear how well China would innovate if the spigot to American intellectual property development was cut off tomorrow. It doesn't pay to be an idea's economy when your idea's are routinely stolen either.

            If you ever wonder how people plan on supporting something like a UBI, know they intended to do it on the backs of foreign labor as a buy off to domestic labor they put out of work intentionally.

            1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

              “When goods don’t cross borders, soldiers will".
              -Frederic Bastiat

              1. BYODB   5 months ago

                Yes, I'm aware, but one also notes that just because goods cross borders it doesn't mean that troops won't. One of the many weak points of economists is they assume people will act rationally, which is largely a fiction.

                1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

                  What's the alternative? Its not like economists are faith based seers. Economists make such an assumption then test it with real world data. If it doesn't fit, they develop new models such as for addictive goods where rational behavior doesn't prevail. When you are taking an average of hundreds of millions of people, rational behavior usually prevails as it has in real world data with tariffs.

                  But yeah, with Trump as the decider, acting rationally is probably a bad assumption.

                  1. BYODB   5 months ago


                    What's the alternative? Its not like economists are faith based seers.

                    Like I said, I don't have a magic bullet for this and I suspect no one does. Pain will be inevitable, that much is for sure.

                    One thing we can do to minimize that future pain is accept some lesser amount of pain today and stop feeding the Chinese beast, but politicians and industry are both short sighted and they are the one's calling the shots. The people too are quite happy to get cheap TV's in exchange for nuclear weapon blueprints.

                    It's crazy, but it's widespread crazy so it looks a little saner.

                    1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

                      That makes sense.

    11. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

      “Virtually all economists think that the impact of the tariffs will be very bad for America and for the world,” said Joseph Stiglitz, an economics professor at Columbia University and a winner of the Nobel Memorial Prize in Economic Sciences. “They will almost surely be inflationary.”

      The tariffs, tensions, and fears of retaliation and a trade war are likely to cause many businesses to reduce their planned investments, and that, economists say, will hurt economies across the world. Marcus Noland, executive vice president of the Peterson Institute for International Economics, said, “The impact of imposing these tariffs,” Noland said, will “have the effect of depressing U.S. economic growth, contributing to a higher rate of inflation, and those effects will be worse if the other countries retaliate in kind.”

      The Peterson Institute’s Noland noted that Trump and other supporters of across-the-board tariffs “claim it will aid industrial revitalization. What we found is it actually tends to have the opposite effect. It tends to damage the industrial sector by decreasing efficiency in production relative to other countries.”

      https://tcf.org/content/commentary/economists-agree-trump-is-wrong-on-tariffs/

      1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago
    12. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

      Oh, boo fucking hoo, nobody wants to engage with your Marxist-Socialist talking points.

      Want to know why? Because they are lies, fallacies and distractions.

      1. Tariffs are taxes on imports, paid by American consumers. Foreigners do not pay them.

      So they are a sales tax. Which actually makes sense. Why should Americans pay tax on their property or even worse on their labor before they even get to see any advantage from it?

      A sales tax is the only reasonable tax for a government of free people to impose. A stable government allows for the enforcement of contracts and facilitates commerce. Taxing commerce means that the people that utilize the government for its intended purpose pay for it. Only under a Marxist-Socialist philosophy can that be said to be unfair or inequitable.

      1. JesseAz (mean girl ambassador)   5 months ago

        Regarding 1:

        And it is not even true as exporters subsume some of the costs lol. Or are effected by a lower demand on their products.

        He was shown this with an example of a Canadian product being offset by the supporter due to changes in the currency valuation between countries.

        But the assertion is a simple bumper sticker to memorize, just to bad it never shows up in actual data.

        His assertion would be easy to prove by showing us the 1:1 correlation between tariffs and costs.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

          The amount of data he is ignoring would bury him. That's how you know it's a talking point.

          Price elasticity, substitute goods, etc., etc. There are all kinds of reasons that selective tariffs might not affect prices. I can virtually guarantee the increase won't be 1:1 versus the amount of the tariff.

          1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

            I can virtually guarantee the increase won't be 1:1 versus the amount of the tariff.

            True, the cost of the tariff is shared among the manufacturer, the importer, the consumer and a decrease in sales. Of course counter tarmean the "costs" can affect other people, like with the farmers 8 years ago.

            1. Quicktown Brix   5 months ago

              I meant "Of course counter tariffs mean..."

    13. EISTAU Gree-Vance   5 months ago

      Dude, give it a rest, you’re just fucking boring.

      And trying waaaayyyy too hard to be above it all. Lol.

    14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Now do free trade with Germany in 1938.

  37. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

    "A new book, The Age Of Choice, asks whether having options truly makes us free."

    Bernie Sanders:

    "You don’t necessarily need a choice of 23 underarm spray deodorants when children are hungry in this country,"

    OR maybe:

    "When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time." (The Giver)

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

      So Bernie wants us to feed deodorant to kids?

      1. Dillinger   5 months ago

        "no, that's not Ban it's Bun. eat your Bun."

    2. Stupid Government Tricks   5 months ago

      To have good leaders you have to have good followers -- able to recognize just authority, admire it, be grateful for it and emulate it. -- David Brooks

      If there is a God, when I get to heaven I'm not stopping to be interviewed. I am heading straight in. I have earned my place in heaven. It's not even close. -- Michael Bloomberg

      1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

        It is usually futile to try to talk facts and analysis to people who are enjoying a sense of moral superiority in their ignorance. [Thomas Sowell]

        An arrogant person can be humbled, an ignorant person can learn. Someone afflicted with a healthy dose of both can’t be told anything. [Derek Hunter]

        1. See.More   5 months ago

          “You cannot reason someone out of a position they did not reason themselves into.”
          [Jonathan Swift]

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      "When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time."

      Said every single activist, progressive, socialist, Democrat, communist, elitist, WEF one-worlder, NYT reader, and all other leftists.

  38. AT   5 months ago

    You might think, given that less than a third of the state's fourth graders have been deemed proficient in reading, and just over a third proficient in math, with test scores that have failed to improve for the last 16 years, that teachers in California would wait to have better job performance before they demand more money.

    Knowing what we know about California and Californians and the scumbag grifters that are public educators, why would you expect ANYONE to think that?

  39. Weigel's Cock Ring   5 months ago

    Dear Senator John Thune,

    Speed it the fuck up with the confirmation process already, there are still way too many key positions that haven't been filled yet. And I mean speed it up immediately, starting today, please and thank you.

    Sincerely,
    Weigel's Cock Ring

    1. Dillinger   5 months ago

      idk why the calendar flipped and all of a sudden we're supposed to accept Thune as a something

    2. Commenter_XY   5 months ago

      You are so right....keep the fucking Senate in session 24/7 until the job is done.

      1. Weigel's Cock Ring   5 months ago

        The freaking term will be over by the time he's done at this glacial pace.

        And if he knows someone doesn't have the votes to be confirmed, he owes it to Trump and the country to tell him so that he can move on to another candidate.

  40. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

    When you think you hate the media enough, you're wrong. Also, never forget Democrats are racist as fuck.

    https://x.com/mattdizwhitlock/status/1888382518321119624

    Photo choice is one of the more underhanded ways news outlets editorialize.

    Here AP is using a glamour shot of Democrat Abby Spanberger, and an angry 4 year old photo of Republican Winsome Sears.

    Sears is the current Lt. Gov, with hundreds of photo options. This was a choice.

    1. mad.casual   5 months ago

      The funniest part about it is that they will go on to lecture about how beauty is an exclusionary, racialized notion while their opposition will look at DJT's mug shot and Fetterman and see an image of Stagecoach Mary.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

      Lying in defense of (D)emocracy is no vice!

      1. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

        Taqiyya.

  41. Medulla Oblongata   5 months ago

    Is this just the girl for Misek or maybe JFree?

    "The woman has been identified as Noora Shalash, Director of Government Affairs for CAIR-Kentucky, who based on this video, accosted a visibly Jewish man because she felt he was Israel personified or something. It’s a harrowing video.

    https://x.com/guypbenson/status/1887917854873579625

    Guy Benson
    @guypbenson
    CAIR official to a Jewish man: “I demand Jihad! I want ISIS to kill all of you!” CAIR is a pro-terror group that lectures Americans about ‘Islamophobia.’

    1. Dillinger   5 months ago

      that wasn't a Snickers ad?

    2. Commenter_XY   5 months ago

      Ship her ass to gaza.

    3. BYODB   5 months ago

      I mean, they work for CAIR so...you know.

  42. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>You might think ... teachers in California would wait to have better job performance before they demand more money.

    funniest thing you've ever typed.

  43. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>The U.S. bishops' conference laid off 50 people on Friday

    doge is stopping child labor everywhere.

  44. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>Birthed by Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D–Mass.) first in concept in 2007, then in action in 2010

    >>wrote Veronique de Rugy in Reason last month.

    what went on the other fifteen years?

    edit:>>To be very clear, this is an anti-Warren newsletter.

    oh okay ... now, or the other fifteen years?

  45. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>The New York Times review (with predictable concluding paragraph) is here.

    are subscription walls still called paywalls?

  46. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>A new book, The Age Of Choice, asks whether having options truly makes us free.

    if freedom is defined as shallow then no

  47. Dillinger   5 months ago

    >>A Florida magnate with close ties to the Republican Party helped set up ... meeting between ... Maduro and Trump's special envoy

    how much is he getting from usaid?

  48. Dillinger   5 months ago

    Treasury should tell the District Court judge to fuck off.

  49. Earth-based Human Skeptic   5 months ago

    Meanwhile, as reported by the Colorado Sun:

    'While Trump’s attack on DEI has sent a chill across Colorado campuses, higher education leaders say their institutions will continue to stand firmly behind their focus on DEI. For the moment, they remain undeterred, even as many questions loom about whether that could jeopardize federal money they receive and as campus officials try to debunk what they see as mischaracterizations of DEI.

    '“What I think the opponents of DEI do is start first by turning the intention of DEI efforts on their head,” said Colorado Community College System Chancellor Joe Garcia. “They say it is While Trump’s attack on DEI has sent a chill across Colorado campuses, higher education leaders say their institutions will continue to stand firmly behind their focus on DEI. For the moment, they remain undeterred, even as many questions loom about whether that could jeopardize federal money they receive and as campus officials try to debunk what they see as mischaracterizations of DEI.

    “What I think the opponents of DEI do is start first by turning the intention of DEI efforts on their head,” said Colorado Community College System Chancellor Joe Garcia. “They say it is about trying to advance certain groups over others at the expense of merit and saying, ‘We care more about diversity than merit.’ What we care about is ensuring that people from diverse backgrounds have the opportunity to demonstrate their merit and advance based on it. And of course in this country, historically, that’s not always been the case.”at the expense of merit and saying, ‘We care more about diversity than merit.’ What we care about is ensuring that people from diverse backgrounds have the opportunity to demonstrate their merit and advance based on it. And of course in this country, historically, that’s not always been the case.”'

    Of course, by "turning on their head" Garcia means revealing what these race and gender grifters have been doing for at least 20 years. And it's totally NOT about trying to advance certain groups over others--for any reasons, right Joe?

    1. Dillinger   5 months ago

      >>a chill across Colorado campuses

      it's called winter, dumbasses

      1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        Sorry, global climate warming change has eliminated winter.

    2. BYODB   5 months ago


      “They say it is about trying to advance certain groups over others at the expense of merit and saying, ‘We care more about diversity than merit.’


      What we care about is ensuring that people from diverse backgrounds have the opportunity to demonstrate their merit and advance based on it.

      So, it's exactly what the 'detractors' say it is? They are trying to split hairs here, but why are they unable to give minorities a chance without rules that set quotas is perhaps the better question.

      I've seen first hand how hard it can be to break into a field without experience in said field, and this is literally no different from that. Some jobs demand 5 or 10 years of experience for entry level positions, which is insane but it is what it is. They'll lower the standard if no one is found with that 'requirement' most of the time, and I've seen that as both an applicant and from the hiring end.

      What DEI admits right up front is that their own organization is so deeply racist that will not hire minorities without a quota system in place, regardless of merit, so why the fuck should we trust them with or without quotas? They've admitted they are the very people with a problem.

  50. Longtobefree   5 months ago

    The root cause is that public 'service' unions do not negotiate with the ones who pay the wages, the taxpayers.
    Get rid of compliant politicians who are bought for campaign donations, and require all public sector union contracts be approved by the voters.
    (and were those 'low' wages corrected for the short work year?)

    1. Dillinger   5 months ago

      is there still room for "require all public sector unions to disband"?

      1. Longtobefree   5 months ago

        Requiring voter approval will accomplish the same result, but is not as likely to be ruled unconstitutional.

        (although I know a few circuits that would say letting the voters decide is not allowed)

        1. Dillinger   5 months ago

          one man's require is another's starve either works.

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   5 months ago

          They're just protecting Democracy from the voters.

  51. KAW   5 months ago

    Re Doge: https://cyberintel.substack.com/p/once-private-government-networks

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   5 months ago

      "Beginning on January 8, 2025, a surge of U.S. government infrastructure began appearing on what’s known as “the search engine of Internet-connected devices,” Shodan.io."
      So two weeks before Doge and Trump's inauguration? But they're responsible? Did you even read this before you posted?

      1. Mother's Lament (Here's your attention, Sarc. Enjoy)   5 months ago

        Lol, these clowns are all the same.

        And not just the date way off, the whole implication that DOGE has access to nuclear research labs is retarded too. It's a fucking financial audit, and they did the Treasury and USAID, not Los Alamos secret files.

        Every single thing that DOGE are looking at should've been published in full sunlight and it's creepy as fuck that an army of Democratic Party agents are pretending that DOGE are flipping through Pentagon files or people's personal bank accounts.

        You know that they are over the target when the grifter's start making wild allegations like that.

        1. BYODB   5 months ago


          Every single thing that DOGE are looking at should've been published in full sunlight and it's creepy as fuck that an army of Democratic Party agents are pretending that DOGE are flipping through Pentagon files or people's personal bank accounts.

          What's even more bizarre is that, at least by appearance, they are implying that treasury has that data in the first place meaning that someone at treasury, and you don't know who, has Pentagon files and people's personal bank accounts. That's probably not actually true, but it's implied.

          It's almost a self own how they're going about this. It amounts to saying that only they can be trusted with all that super secret information, and that it's of utmost importance that you never find out what they're doing with it. I.E. 'Trust us without verification' which has never once caused anything bad to happen in U.S. history, according to them.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

            I see this for what it actually is. The left leaving everything out in the open to be stolen because they would rather it be in the hands of their Marxist brethren abroad than discovered and returned to the People.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   5 months ago

        You reckon it's a new turd sock?

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   5 months ago

      I’ve had many sleepless nights wondering why exactly the DOGE broligarchy thinks they can play games with our nation’s most deeply-held secrets.

      Nobody that rights such drivel can be taken seriously.

      1. See.More   5 months ago

        Nobody that rights such drivel can be taken seriously.

        Righting drivel is undoing writing wrongs, no? =P

  52. MWAocdoc   5 months ago

    "use the federal Department of Transportation to kill off New York City's congestion pricing"

    To be fair, if NYC only charges commuters from New Jersey as they enter New York, that is "interstate commerce" in the original meaning of the Founders (original intent) and fair game for Federal action.

  53. Incunabulum   5 months ago

    They can't afford to live near their schools? Why would anyone care? Why would this even be important?

    1. Incunabulum   5 months ago

      When I was in the military I deliberately chose where I was going to live *specifically not to be near work*.

  54. Uncle Jay   5 months ago

    Yeah, give even more money to incompetents in public education who produce illiterates or near-illiterates.
    That makes sense...if you're stupid enough to be a proggie.

  55. JohnZ   5 months ago

    Six figure incomes for teachers that can't teach, students who don't learn and schools that fail at everything .
    "but there's a reason . There's a reason. There's a reason for this. There's a reason that education sucks, and it's the same reason why it will never ever be fixed. Don't look for it. Be happy with what you got, because the owners of this country don't want that. I'm talking about the real owners now. The real owners. The big wealthy business interest that control things and make all the important decisions. Forget the politicians....they're irrelevant. The politicians are put there to give you the idea you have freedom of choice. You don't. You have no choice. You have owners. They own you. They own everything. They own all the important land, they own and control the corporations, They've long since bought and paid for the Senate, the Congress, the state houses and city halls.
    They got the judges in their back pockets and they own all the big media companies so they control just about all the news and information you get to hear.
    .....But what they don't want ...they don't want a population of citizens capable of critical thinking. They don't want well educated people capable of critical thinking. They're not interested in that. That doesn't help them, it's against their interest. What they want are obedient workers. Obedient workers. People who are just smart enough to run the machines, do the paperwork and just dumb enough to passively accept the increasingly shittier jobs with lower pay, the longer hours, reduced benefits . The end of overtime and the vanishing pension the moment you go to collect it. It's all a big club and you ain't in it. You and I are not in the big club."
    George Carlin......There's a reason.

  56. Vesicant   5 months ago

    Ah, statistics. Would that 'average' be one person making a billion dollars and everybody else making $10K? The bigger the lie, the more statistics.

  57. jagjr   5 months ago

    "If that is in fact what is happening, all of this makes complete and total sense."

    "if" is doing a VERY big lift here ...

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