Syracuse Police Handcuffed an 11-Year-Old After Wrongly Accusing Her of Stealing a Car
"I can't make sense of it. I couldn't even finish watching the video," said the girl's mother. "That's not how you handle children."

Police in Syracuse, New York, handcuffed an 11-year-old girl for 7 minutes earlier this month after they mistook her for the suspect in a car theft. Video of the incident, which shows the girl sobbing on a snow-covered street, caused considerable public outcry and led the Onondaga County Sheriff's Office to announce changes to their policy around detaining minors.
The girl, who has not been publicly identified, was walking home from school with a group of friends when she was approached by police, according to Syracuse.com. A car theft had been reported nearby, and the girl was wearing a very similar outfit to the suspect—a pink coat and camouflage pants.
"Girl, you're going to tell me this ain't you?" one officer said to the girl in footage of the incident taken by another child.
"I don't even have the same shoes or nothing," the girl said before pointing out that the suspect had a lighter skin tone than her.
A brief back-and-forth followed, with the officers insisting that the handcuffed 11-year-old was the culprit, and the girl and her friends pointing out clear physical differences between the two. After one of the officers appeared to speak with someone over the phone, he admitted that the girl wasn't the suspect, and she was unhandcuffed and released.
Soon after the footage was released, the sheriff's office announced that it would change how it handles future incidents involving minors. "The Sheriff agrees that moving forward, it will be OCSO policy to notify a parent or guardian of any juvenile who is detained for criminal investigative purposes, no matter how brief the encounter is." However, the sheriff's office stood by the officer's decision to detain the girl. "In reviewing the incident, the detainment of the juvenile was lawful and reasonable, given the juvenile's proximity and clothing description."
While the girl in this case did quite closely match the suspect's initial written description, the department's apparent philosophy—handcuff minors and ask questions later—leads to unsettling footage like this.
Still, the office defended its practice of immediately detaining suspects, no matter how young they appear to be. "Detainees are usually handcuffed initially. Detainees may become uncooperative, may decide to flee, or may decide to fight," reads the press release. "Handcuffing from the start usually prevents a controlled situation from devolving into an uncontrolled situation; ultimately preventing altercations, force, and potential for injury."
The girl's mother disagrees that handcuffing children like her daughter was appropriate. "She no longer wants to walk to and from school anymore. That was the only freedom she had, and it's now gone," the girl's mother told a CBS6 Albany. "I can't make sense of it. I couldn't even finish watching the video. Even if it wasn't my child, I wouldn't be able to finish watching the video, because that's not how you handle children."
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Good thing she didn't have a dog.
...or was trespassing.
Walking while Black.
Cops get hard ons if they can shoot a dog.
"I can't make sense of it. I couldn't even finish watching the video," said the girl's mother. "That's not how you handle children."
You oughta see these children.
Yes, I'm sure there's no difference between an eleven year old girl and a fifteen year old boy. As long as they're black, that is.
Fuck off.
That’s Rick James bitch.
Check out this asshole who thinks he's a biologist.
I'm sure his copy of the 14A says "Equality means 15 yr. old boys get handcuffs, 11 yr. old girls don't, a priori." in the emanations and penumbras.
Though my personal favorite is JeremyR's 'The real problem with policing is that they use clothing as part of the description in the first place.' It makes me sympathize with Babbage.
“On two occasions I have been asked [by members of Parliament], ‘Pray, Mr. Babbage, if you put into the machine wrong figures, will the right answers come out?’ I am not able rightly to apprehend the kind of confusion of ideas that could provoke such a question.” - Charles Babbage
I can only surmise that, in their minds, because blood washes off and no one anywhere has their precise age at time of arrest tattooed on their forehead, no arrest anywhere ever has been legitimate.
What is your point? A 11 year old girl walking home from school with a group of friends vs 4 males committing armed robbery proves what?
It's not proof, but your question provides evidence about your IQ.
If other people say, "God created man. Samuel Colt made them equal.", do you correct them with "... unless they're 11, female, black, and among friends." like a sperg-dunking retard?
If someone asks for evidence, it’s provided, and then they take issue with the specificity of the evidence- they are making bad faith pedantic arguments and (for me) that’s where the conversation ends. I suggest not wasting your time - unless it’s fun and that’s your goal - then there are no rules.
Hey you pedantic fuck - the point is young blacks commit 50% of ALL VIOLENT CRIME HERE IN THE USA and she closely matched the description - end of story.
The adults are speaking - go sit in your corner and cry about it or tell the blacks to stop committing so many crimes and clean their culture up to avoid stereotypes moving forward.
Everyone else; notice this type of thing never happens to the Amish - for good reason.
There's no need to worry: qualified immunity will protect the officers. [/sarc]
Not sarc. It will.
I would love to hear the explanation by these "police officers" how an eleven-year-old can steal a car.
Their explanation should prove hilarious.
Young teens can and do steal cars. Been an issue in places like Baltimore for a little while.
https://foxbaltimore.com/news/local/11-year-old-captured-by-cops-17-times-for-car-thefts-burglaries-heres-why-hes-not-facing-charges
As an example.
Yup, friend of mine's wife had her car stolen by a 12 year old in Baltimore about 10 years ago.
Sure. But that is no defence to what the police did here
He was just providing a link that 11 year olds do steal cars. That's all.
Not saying they acted properly one way or the other.
Just that assuming 11 year olds might steal cars is not that far-fetched anymore.
Not at all. Did you hear how the other girls cheered when told the stolen car was a Kia? Obviously they approved of the Kia-stealing fad.
Uhhhh ... "11" is not "young teen". Did you have to learn new math or something?
Yet a 19 year old who shot someone is always a teenager, not an adult teen.
You're being generous. Any Black criminal under 25 is a "child".
What I think is even worse is that you'd be hard pressed to find a single police officer in this country who would not defend these cops for being in such fear for their lives that they needed to handcuff an eleven-year-old girl's hands behind her back. I'm surprised they didn't pull their guns on her, being that they honestly believed she stole a car and was a threat to their lives.
Not defending the cops. but handcuffing people while in temporary detention has become a common thing. It's harder to run with handcuffs on.
I think that’s true, but not reasonable. Handcuffs should be used when a problem is likely, not just when it’s possible. Detaining her seems reasonable, based on her clothes and general appearance, but unless she acted like she was going to fight or run, they shouldn’t have put cuffs on her.
Policy exists to create a lowest common denominator threshold for actions, going beyond that requires discression and puts you in the line of fire without your "following policy" shield. It's not good but it does have a logic to it.
First rule of being a bureaucrat: Never accept responsibility for making a decision.
If your argument is that an 11 year old girl in winter clothes and wearing boots can outrun 2 grown ass men then I'm going to throw the flag.
Good to see you back to having the proper take on cop overreactions.
We all know that "I feared for my life" is a license to kill. The fact that it's a little girl doesn't matter. All they have to do is say those words and they're free to kill again.
"Little girl"? She looked as tall as the cops.
I would love to hear the explanation by these "police officers" how an eleven-year-old can steal a car.
Their explanation should prove hilarious.
You're kidding, right?
Oh sorry, that was a 10 yr old, you asked how an 11 yr old could steal a car... well, I'll try to find an example of that, too.
Well an 8 yr old would do it like this.
https://nypost.com/2023/07/12/8-year-old-arrested-in-alabama-carjacking-police-chase/
I'd sure be pissed off if the cops handcuffed my grand daughter walking home from school. But to be fair the cops were doing their job and the situation was quickly resolved. And I don't want to be "that guy" but I have to wonder if this story would even be reported if the melanin level of the victim was different.
Skin color is the most important thing.
You often say that sarcastically, not realising the irony.
You misunderstood
On the contrary, i understand all too well.
You really don’t shrike.
And I have to wonder whether the cops would have arrested her before checking the identification if the melanin level of the victim were different.
What police departments ought to do ...
* Apologize, right then and there.
* Give the kid and all her friends coupons for ice cream or pizza.
Criminy, act like human beings for a change! Don't bluster and say it's good procedure and not our fault and all that. Fucking admit it was a bad move, pass out coupons, and stop pretending you never make mistakes.
It's against department policy to apologize, because that is an admission to wrongdoing.
Wouldn't surprise me one bit if an apology could get an officer fired. Not forced to resign only to then go to work for another department. But fired and blackballed, with no chance of getting a pension.
An apology is just a guaranteed lawsuit.
One would have to be a moron to apologize. The people bitching won't accept it anyway.
Good! Good! Ignore your reactionary aggressive feelings! Let the lack of hate flow through you!
If your grudge is that police are handing out too many coupons for free ice creams or Amazon gift cards or too few for handcuffing someone for 7 min... you really need to find a better cause.
You make sense some times, but mostly you seem to be channeling Kamala. Did you actually say anything there?
Says the guy trying to distract or entice kids with free ice cream.
He’s got a super cool van though.
He just wants to smell their hair.
The cop's job is to follow the law, and what they did is well established to be illegal. They might have had suspicion to stop her, but it ended as soon as it was pointed out she did not match the description. Also policies to handcuff every person a cop thinks might have committed a crime is illegal.
But the union that reps these cops now hates Trump because of the J6 pardons, so all is well. - Sullum's next article.
Sullum, and the Democrats who post on here, really showed their asses in that hit piece.
Considering that the only 2 people to have died on 6 Jan were murdered by cops the union's ire is baffling. I bet those 2 cops are retiring as we speak
I think it also illustrates a common problem of policing for 100+ years - going by description of clothing.
As if criminals can't take off a jacket or change pants
I'd ask if you're the The Shadow, but The Shadow was known for his social, intellectual, and investigative abilities without his mind control powers and this take is *incredibly* retarded.
"Handcuffing from the start usually prevents a controlled situation from devolving into an uncontrolled situation; ultimately preventing altercations, force, and potential for injury."
Yeah, buddy, I'd say handcuffing can also lead to an uncontrolled situation, like bad optics and a pissed-off public. The press ain't your friend, ya know. Ya might wanna rethink what kind of stupid procedures you have.
"She no longer wants to walk to and from school anymore. That was the only freedom she had, and it's now gone," the girl's mother told a CBS6 Albany.
What's Lenore Skenazy's take?
Unless it's "Harden the fuck up." I don't care.
Lenore, as usual, would say that the biggest threats to kids walking on their own are the police and busybody Karens.
Sorta makes one feel warm and fuzzy that Trump has been pissing off the FOP.
Outlaw public employ unions.
I'm siding with the cops here.
It looked like an unfortunate but understandable mistake. Her outfit bore a close enough resemblance to the real suspect that being detained until it was determined she was actually not the suspect they were looking for was a valid reason and an appropriate level of force was used.
This wasn't a case of excessive violence. The cops didn't beat her, shoot her, taze her... nothing. She was in handcuffs for a short time. I'm sure she was scared, which is a reasonable reaction for an innocent person to have.
Outrage meter: Zero.
Outrage meter: Zero.
Yeah, even the actual 100% solid legal ground alternative or argument about not being able to question a minor without their parent/guardian doesn't improve things, unless Granny was going to get there in under 7 min.
If this is the sterling example that you or your people live under the oppressive tyranny of a police state, feel free to ask an actual libertarian to point you in the direction of a real grievance or infringement.
You don't care it is a 4A violation? Bootlicker.
How is it a 4A violation?
Bootlickers gonna lick.
How? I don't agree with the handcuffing but detaining a suspect is a thing. It took them all of 7 min to figure out they were wrong and let her go.
After yelling at her for being a "liar" until she was in tears. They could have resolved the situation without being abusive.
What they did was clearly illegal. Hope she sues.
In what way was it "clearly illegal"?
Putting someone accused of a crime in handcuffs.
Un... precedented.
Your going to have to back that up with some explanation as to your reasoning. I saw what might be poor judgement but nothing illegal.
The girl was obviously a January 6th protester bent on assaulting innocent police were just out not harming flies.
When I worked at a facility for kids, I used to joke that half the sixth graders were bigger than me—and the other half was the boys. Why do Black middle schoolers look like they're 19? Is this genetic or environmental or something?
It’s not your imagination.
It’s hormonal. Females that don’t grow up with a (male) father figure around hit puberty 1+ yrs earlier (probably evolved that way so they can find another Male to protect them in our ancient past).
https://www.medicalnewstoday.com/articles/201709
75%+ of black females are born out of wedlock these days.
https://reasonwithoutrestraint.com/trends-in-marriage-and-fertility-by-race-in-the-united-states/#Out-of-wedlock_births_and_single-mother_households
So that’s why.
Interesting, thanks.
Interesting but the study makes clear it applies only to higher income families. This makes it a rather suspect study with no real implications to the general population.
Everyone who isn’t “diver64”; the study applies perfectly and feel free to ignore the disingenuous Sea Lioning (DuckDuckGo the term if you don’t know) exhibition by “diver64”.
I repeat: black girls hit puberty earlier bc their daddy’s aren’t around and that’s why black middle schoolers look 19 as per the OP.
not even close. That study is a classic example of one that finds something within very specific parameters to a cohort then everyone wants to blow it out of proportion because they don't understand how that works. It was very clear as to what was going on so I guess you can't read?
"at least $50,000 per year" is hardly a "very specific parameter". So I guess you can't read.
Also, there could be other reasons why the effect was not visible among lower income families studied. The effect could have been there for them also, but was subsumed by other factors, such as obesity, which is more prevalent among the poor. So I guess you can't think.
“ Sealioning refers to the disingenuous action by a commenter of making an ostensible effort to engage in sincere and serious civil debate, usually by asking persistent questions of the other commenter.”
‘Interesting’
‘Only high income?’
‘Doesn’t seem to apply tho…’
*insert Sealion meme*
Folks, Diver64 is literally a living character of Sealioning - thanks for Saturday morning laughter you bring the Commentariate! We applaud your dedication! Huzzah!
I almost feel pity for the poor guy - like I’m shooting fish in a barrel - I don’t want to be cruel.
(I don’t know if this is bc they might be a Boomer, but man oh man how can one not mock such blatant, obvious disingenuousness, lol!)
"A higher income family in this study is one whose yearly household income is at least $50,000 per year."
So yes, it applies to the general population.
Just more evidence we need higher standards when hiring police officers. The old joke "we like 'em a little dumb" doesn't work anymore.
Intelligence and common decency don't necessarily go together.
If the girl was White would this article even exist? It's called procedure. I've been handcuffed twice in my life. On each occasion after the Police found out what actually happened I was immediately released with an apology. The same thing happened with this girl. More of Reason's "cops are bad no matter what they do".
If the girl was White would this article even exist?
No. On the other hand, in a white neighborhood, the car would not have been stolen in the first place.
The policy is to temporarily remove the liberty of innocent citizens for the convenience of the state, as the Founders intended.
I never get tired of LOLertarian hypocrisy. One day you're whining about the police using force, the next you're whining about them using de-escalation tactics instead.
Just admit that you're ACAB and cop-hating bigots already. Nothing they ever do can ever be right in your book, because their existence is the problem.
"Detainees are usually handcuffed initially. Detainees may become uncooperative, may decide to flee, or may decide to fight," reads the press release. "Handcuffing from the start usually prevents a controlled situation from devolving into an uncontrolled situation; ultimately preventing altercations, force, and potential for injury."
Right out of the handbook.
"She no longer wants to walk to and from school anymore. That was the only freedom she had, and it's now gone," the girl's mother told a CBS6 Albany.
"Where mah civil rights lottry money?! Damnit girl, how man times I say, yous gotta say I CAN'T BREEVE!"
JFC
Yes, exactly. Justified Force Compliance. You hit the nail on the head!