Mexico Embraces You
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Mexico's preparations for a border shutdown: Following President Donald Trump's campaign trail announcement that he would launch the largest deportation effort in American history, the Mexican government under President Claudia Sheinbaum started readying itself to serve as an oppositional force to Trump. The program that resulted—"Mexico Embraces You"—aims to shelter deported Mexicans, some 5 million of whom are estimated to be living in the United States illegally and thus at risk of being sent back.
With the shutdown of the CBP One app, which helped asylum seekers schedule appointments with American immigration officials, and the mass canceling of appointments, many migrants have become mired in what must feel like purgatory; a sense that their future plans are indefinitely put on hold, contingent on the whims of the Trump administration. But for those already in the country without papers, rumors have also begun to circulate that Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE) roundups will begin. Accordingly, Mexico has started constructing giant tent shelters in nine border towns across the country's north, which will "provide deported Mexicans with food, temporary housing, medical care, and assistance in obtaining identity documents" (per Reuters), as well as the opportunity to board buses to be sent back to their hometowns, free of charge. The program also seeks to provide citizens with cash cards worth about $100 each.
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A little under 4 percent of Mexico's population is living undocumented in the U.S.; if sent back, this could present major problems for the Mexican government. "Basically, with the cancellation of CBP One and deportations, the government isn't coordinated to receive them," Jose Luis Perez, the director of migration issues for Tijuana, told reporters (before being fired from his position seemingly for casting doubt).
"Sheinbaum has signaled that Mexico could receive deportees other than Mexicans," per The New York Times. "She said, however, that her government planned to 'voluntarily' return any non-Mexican nationals—including those waiting for asylum hearings in the United States—to their countries of origin." But it's far from clear what that looks like ("voluntary"?) or how the logistics work or who pays for that.
The raids that haven't happened: So far, the promised ICE raids have not commenced. "After weeks of preparation by Chicago's immigrant communities—and a weekend of fear spurred by multiple reports that the city would be the site of the first major deportation raids of the new Trump administration—there were no reports of immigration enforcement on Tuesday," reports WBEZ Chicago. "The Trump administration initially said it planned to deploy immigration enforcement agents in Chicago on Trump's first full day in office, saying they'd target immigrants with deportation orders and criminal records."
"The Department of Homeland Security said Tuesday it was ending a policy that restricted Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents' ability to arrest undocumented people at or near so-called sensitive locations, including houses of worship, schools and hospitals," reports NBC News. Some former sanctuary cities, like Philadelphia, now have their public officials saying that they'll cooperate with federal authorities and the Trump administration.
"Sanctuary city can mean a lot of things, and so that whole discussion can get confusing and maybe generate more heat than light," said District Attorney Larry Krasner, calling Philly a "city of brotherhood, of love, of sisterly affection, where we respect and support our immigrant neighbors who are hardworking and are law-abiding and are contributing to our society" but also adding that he would "follow the law."
"To the extent that ICE has the legal right to do things, obviously we will not interfere," Krasner added, departing from the standard sanctuary city line.
One thing that might be affecting Krasner's thinking: a just-issued Justice Department memo in which Trump promises to rain down consequences for state and local officials who resist federal immigration-related law enforcement efforts.
"Sanctuary cities are going to get exactly what they don't want," Tom Homan, Trump's border czar, told Fox News yesterday. "More agents in the communities, more people arrested, collateral arrests. If that's the game they want to play? Game on."
"Most Americans support both a meaningful number of deportations and meaningful limits to them," writes David Leonhardt in The New York Times. "Trump and his aides will risk a public backlash if they wrongly believe that Americans will support almost any deportations. Many Americans will find it hard to accept the expulsion of undocumented immigrants who have lived here for many years and built stable lives." The Obama deportation strategy, notes Leonhardt, involved prioritizing those with criminal records (contra Biden!) as well as those who had come here more recently, as opposed to those who are more established; if Trump were shrewd about ensuring public support, he might take a similar approach.
Scenes from New York: "A Manhattan aesthetician was arrested and charged with injecting patients at his medical spa with counterfeit Botox, prosecutors said, sending some to the hospital," reports The New York Times. The U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York said the aesthetician, who offered injections to reduce wrinkles in women and increase penis size in men "knowingly purchased counterfeit Botox from China, injected it into his clients and represented that the counterfeit Botox that he was peddling was genuine." At least one patient developed botulism following injections. (This—as well as an enduring belief that Mrs. Robinson from The Graduate is the most beautiful woman to ever exist and that aging gracefully is the proper path—is why I don't get Botox!)
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The program that resulted—"Mexico Embraces You"—aims to shelter deported Mexicans...
But heaven forbid any among those deported who come from south of the Mexican border?
I mean these returned immigrants should benefit Mexico greatly even fixing their economy if you listen to the open borders acolytes. This has to be a good thing. Weird that Mexico is concerned about costs.
Won't they bring all of the GDP they're taking away from the US and bestow it upon Mexico?
They will even benefit from all the free public schooling they recieved!
Only if they can take their food trucks with them.
It's a good thing that they didn't bother learning English.
Yes, I was very confused by:
“A little under 4 percent of Mexico's population is living undocumented in the U.S.; if sent back, this could present major problems for the Mexican government.”
How could they be a problem there, when they only provide benefits to here?
Exactly. What the fuck kind of problems are we talking about here? That Mexico will go from being 90 percent controlled by the cartels to 94%?
How also is that a problem for US policy?
Mexico is responsible for its own citizens, not the American taxpayer.
You Nazi!
(Just checking: did I do it right?)
Would have done it right if you had raised your hand first.
Then mute him!
A lot of people beating pretty hard on that strawman. I'm sure some people exist who will say that immigrants only ever bring positive benefits. But those people are very stupid and very rare. More common is people who will claim immigration, including illegals, is a net benefit overall. At this point I see very few people who will deny that millions of new arrivals over a short time will cause some real difficulties for a country.
Exactly. This is Jesse's favorite strawman. He cannot argue against the pro-immigration arguments honestly so he has to invent strawmen.
Poor Jeffy, he’s so pedantic that he can’t tell the difference between a strawman (as he commonly tilts at) and real sarcasm.
I wonder if you want to rethink your post, first it's obvious sarcasm, second look who promptly supported your post and celebrated it to launch a personal against Jesse. I'm sure this wasn't your intention as you tend to be very even minded but I know if Lyingjeffy supported one of my positions I would definitely reflect on my post.
I know it's sarcasm. It's been done to death, though. One or two people repeating the already tired joke would have been plenty. And I'm not going to change my opinions based on who might agree on certain points. Not everything Jeff says is wrong.
Not everything Jeff says is wrong.
Not a single word of it is said in good faith.
Not everything Jeff says is wrong.
You know we love you Zeb, but chemjeff purposefully misinterpreted your statement just above.
https://reason.com/2025/01/23/mexico-embraces-you/?comments=true#comment-10883654
He does, in fact, continually pushback on the notion "that millions of new arrivals over a short time will cause some real difficulties for a country." There are dozens, if not hundreds of examples throughout this forum of him deriding any claim that illegals cost taxpayers. That should make him one of the people you just described as, "very stupid and very rare." But suddenly he pretends to the latter position you posted, which is a classic Motte and Bailey fallacy.
When he does not engage in good faith argument, he deserves no credit if he accidentally states what would otherwise be a logical position. Fallacy never proves an argument.
No, it isn't but enough is that it would give me pause. And even when he's right, he hides it in a cornucopia of logical fallacies, untruths and sophistry that it renders the overall point moot.
Principals, not principles. Got it.
Did you ride the short bus to school or something?
Principals, not principles. Got it.
Slogans, not logical arguments. Got it.
Explain how you're being principled, Jeff.
It wasn’t a strawman it was hyperbole.
But where will they park all of the food trucks?
Indeed, you'd think that Mexico would be begging to let into a few million Guatemalans, Haitians, and Salvadorans. Immigrants are always an economic positive, a boon for every society, and have absolutely no negatives whatsoever.
Plus, they, like have a right to be there, you can't keep them out or something.
The fact this cartel-owned whore apparently thinks this is some kind of troll against Trump is the hilarious part.
The whole fucking point is to convince foreigners to return to their home countries, you clueless yenta. How the fuck do you "shelter" your own citizens?
Only the United States, among all the countries of the world, has a moral obligation to take care of all the people's of the world. Its ok if Mexico kicks the Guatemalans and Hondurans to the curb and prioritize their own people.
Is China south of Mexico?
Interestingly enough, no. Mexico actually extends a full degree of latitude south of China.
Mexico is about to be saddled with the problems that THEY caused US.....boo-hoo.....
...some 5 million of whom are estimated to be living in the United States illegally and thus at risk of being sent back.
I mean, they are your people, no?
But they are not their best people so why would they want them back?
Racist!
Dems have tried to frame enforcement as an all or none question.
Trump has leaned in to the ALL rhetoric, but his orders seem pretty middle ground. If you've been here 2+ years and don't have an active deportation order, you're not a priority.
Of course, *proving* you've been here 2+ years could be a challenge. I don't think Americans are going to be too excited about strawberries rotting in the fields while avocados are $3 each.
I pick my own strawberries.
The government could always get out of the way and let those farmers pay Americans what they would have paid the illegal immigrants. But that would require doing away with minimum wage and other labor laws.
All the fun key words here. German over stay, here illegally. H1b. Shot cops.
https://justthenews.com/government/security/one-suspect-border-patrol-agent-killing-was-german-citizen-expired-h1-b-visa
Another useless, off topic, post from the useless bitch Jesseaz. She is the dumbest. Is she saying h1b visa holders are terrorists? Dumb as usual
A little under 4 percent of Mexico's population is living undocumented in the U.S.; if sent back, this could present major problems for the Mexican government.
Get a load of Martha's Vineyard down there.
But we've been told by some here that those extra workers are actually a plus for a country's economy. Seems like Mexico would not only want its citizens back, but would be glad to keep the migrants from further South as well. Right, guys?
So crossing back over that border takes people who are making our country so much better will be a problem for their home country? What am I missing with this logic?
It certainly presents a housing, resource, and jobs problem if they have to accommodate that sudden population surge. There will also be cultural conflict from those somewhat adjusted to American norms.
If you're looking for an answer that doesn't reveal the hypocrisy of open borders advocates then I can't help you
They will argue anything if they think the situation is desperate enough, but this is the definition of "not our problem".
Pretty cheeky and subversive of Liz to include this bon mot of a quote that destroys Reasons editorial stance with its sheer contradictory brilliance
Fiona’s gonna be pissed and write another bullshit article later today.
She was going to do that regardless.
How can it be a housing problem? I presume that they lived somewhere before illegally crossing the border. Are you trying to say that a sudden large amount of people suddenly showing up can place a large strain on a nation's housing and resources?
If they're sending us their best, they wouldn't be a drain when going back.
Something to cheer up jeffsarc.
Despite pardon, soros backed Philly DA is looking at how he can lock up J6ers.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2025/01/soros-backed-philly-da-exploring-state-charges-against-pardoned-j6-defendants/
Krasner replied, “You can have a state prosecution for conduct that was not fully encompassed in the federal prosecution.”
So what crimes were committed in PA?
My money's on conspiracy. Ill-defined enough to cover a lot of things.
The J6ers should obviously stay in red states. I'm guessing most GOP governors would refuse to extradite on novel charges after a full pardon was granted.
Prob RICO.
RICO is a federal charge.
There are state level RICO charges. The DA in Fulton County Georgia loves her expensive, sweeping Rico cases, like Young Thug or Trump. Fortunately, she seems to be on the path for disbarment.
After a search, there are 33 states with RICO laws, including PA.
I'm curious how they expect to extradite if the Feds will not assist.
If there are people in Pennsylvania who traveled to DC, those are likely the ones they're going to bring charges against. The conspiracy crime has to have been committed in the state. Texas can't prosecute someone for a murder committed in Rhode Island. However, Trump was prosecuted in Georgia for election fraud despite not being a Georgia resident because the crime was committed in Georgia.
I don't think any of it is going to actually fly, but they're going to investigate for evidence of people conspiring within Pennsylvania.
No crimes was committed regarding the phone call.
“I don't think any of it is going to actually fly…”
No. But it’ll cost the defendants time and money, which is sorta the point any more.
They could be more honest, and motivated by their current Trump 2.0 meltdown not control their urges, and charge people with defying the Democratic agenda.
Jeff is hoping they find a capital offense like trespassing.
I wonder if Sarc will say it is OK because Democrats did it first...
Sometime today Sarc will post that strawman. It’s like clockwork.
Why throw them jail? I was told that breaking into public property demands the death penalty.
Just ask Sarc.
It is actually jeffy that went on the record stating that Babbitt deserved to be shot for trespassing. Sarc just mercilessly mocks anyone who brings her up and calls her Saint Babbitt. He relies on the conflation of his arguments with someone he once describe as, "one of the most libertarian" commentors on Reason as cover for his continuous trolling.
They benefit from us not being able to distinguish who promoted which idiotic fallacy.
Except for when it's stunning and brave and essential protest against the bad people.
Doj needs to arrest him for deprivation of rights if he tries anything. This has to end.
As long as he brings it before a grand jury, he has absolute immunity as the prosecutor. The lawfare will not stop until SCOTUS finds the balls to pierce the veil of sovereign immunity.
After thinking about this for a minute, I think the AG should begin looking into filing charges against the J6 committee members. Shouldn't be too difficult even with Biden's blanket pardon.
I think it open a new avenue of investigation. They cannot plead the 5th. If they refuse to testify, they can still be held in contempt. If they lie perjury is on the table.
No, they can plead the fifth it it would open them to state prosecutions. It's only a federal pardon.
Yeah, I'm sure that Philadelphia sewer rat is going to bring state-level charges above his jurisdiction.
Worked for Braggs.
And people thought Soros DA's were soft on crime...
...her government planned to 'voluntarily' return any non-Mexican nationals—including those waiting for asylum hearings in the United States—to their countries of origin.
They all become Trump once confronted with their own immigration problem.
What do you even call the female jew version of Hitler?
Ms. Hitlerstein?
Eva ShineBraun?
Truckers file lawsuit regarding states who make them disarm as they cross state lines transporting goods.
It is time for required reciprocity.
https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/23/truckers-file-lawsuit-arguing-they-shouldnt-lose-second-amendment-rights-just-because-they-cross-state-lines/
These states need to understand what “shall not be infringed” means.
They are pretty sure that means no peasants can ever infringe on government power.
It's time to eliminate "permits" to exercise constitutional rights.
Burn those FOID cards!
And stop delivering stuff to those states.
It is time for required reciprocity.
It used to be the law of the land. There is SCOTUS caselaw directly to this point.
Unfortunately, I think people are reluctant to quote the Dred Scott decision, despite it being precisely on point.
Oh, and that decision had a tremendous amount to say about who is a citizen, which was entire reason for the phrase "and subject to the jurisdiction thereof" being included in the 14th amendment, not so that it would grant citizenship to the children of foreign nationals at some point in the future they couldn't imagine.
Another terrible EO from Trump one of the writers can create an article with.
Trump ends Bidenbucks which was used to help fund democrat election districts and influence state electoral actions.
I would think a dictator would repurpose the funds for his own needs. Does Trump even know how to dictator?
https://thefederalist.com/2025/01/23/trump-erases-bidenbucks-and-taxpayer-funded-leftist-voter-registration-drives/
He'll go down in history as one of the least effective dictators to ever dictate.
Linda like Mr Tudball from the Carol Burnett show (ancient reference)
I don't know... The afd party leader in Germany is a pretty ineffective nazi. She said that the German goverment has a duty to protect the German Jewish population.
Tom Homan....just 300 yesterday. Make it 3,000 today, please!
There's still the 1M with final deportation orders to get through as well.
Maybe Trump can finally establish the exit visa system agreed to in the 88 amnesty.
Glad to see he's actually starting in Aurora, too. Maybe clearing out the illegals and the gang members in the Denver metro will actually drop the cost of housing below half a million and rent down to less than $2K/month.
And if that Howdy Doody fuck of a mayor in Denver decides to kick off Le Resistance, he can get tossed in solitary in the Gulag for four years for seditious conspiracy like Jake Lang was.
And that's the right place to start too. People freaking out about deporting actual criminals and gang members are not going to get a lot of sympathy from the general public.
Typical Trump. Let them think Chicago and then do something else.
So far, the promised ICE raids have not commenced.
The threat has apparently already started having its intended effect.
That was my thought, too.
Trump failed!!!
Huh:
https://x.com/BillMelugin_/status/1882445026053280155
Before deportation, those border justice warriors should be housed with randomly selected Democratic Party members. And by random, I mean Martha's Vineyard and Hollywood Hills.
“A little under 4 percent of Mexico's population is living undocumented in the U.S.; if sent back, this could present major problems for the Mexican government.” -
wow, the poor Mexican government. Who could imagine this many people could present downsides? I thought they’d be happy about all the new food trucks
Would Mexico accept a mayor based white guy taco truck? Maybe waltz could become a millionaire down there.
Which mayor will be used as the base?
Apparently I'm not white enough as mayo isn't in my autocorrect dictionary.
Real white people use Miracle Whip.
Miracle Whip is an abomination that should be destroyed.
Miracle Whip delenda est?
And salt the earth afterwards.
I concur fully. I heard about Miracle Whip (mostly commercials) when I was a kid and finally tried it a few years ago. It's awful!
Truth.
They can take Brandon Johnson.
Or that bass lady from LA. She apparently can’t speak English anyway. And the one from Philly can’t even spell. Won’t be missed.
"their future plans are indefinitely put on hold, contingent on the whims of the Trump administration"
The fact that they build their future plans with intent to break US law--and to often knowingly lie to agents to falsely claim asylum--from minute 1 on the whims of Biden administration choosing to ignore and not enforce duly authorized laws and reward them with free shit is not at all the problem, no...
their future plans are indefinitely put on hold, contingent on the whims of the
Trump administrationAmerican taxpayer who is tired of paying for themBoo fucking hoo
Dear Susie Wiles....There are 40 vacancies on Circuit Courts around the country. Help your boss fill them. There is not a single nomination. How is that possible?!
While she's at it, she also needs to get on John Thune's ass to start confirming his appointees faster.
Hey Thune, get a pair of balls tell the far left to go fuck off with their fake rape accusations and all their other worn-our bullcrap, and start holding some confirmation votes please.
Democrats are doing everything they can to delay. Radcliffe passed committee 14-3 only to have a dem file a 7 day hold in the senate.
Don't let the Senate recess. Keep everyone in session. Make it unpleasant as possible.
Believe they've been told exactly that including late sessions.
And while she's at it can she make me a sandwhich?
Say what you will about Cocaine Mitch (I do as well), but the man did his best work in this area of governance.
Agreed. Too bad he sucked so much at other stuff.
The only thing he seems to have done completely right was the denial of Merrick Garland’s appointment to the Supreme Court.
That was enough.
"that her government planned to 'voluntarily' return any non-Mexican nationals—including those waiting for asylum hearings in the United States—to their countries of origin"
Those damn racist xenophobic Mexicans and their mass-deportations!
A Manhattan aesthetician was arrested and charged with injecting patients at his medical spa with counterfeit Botox...
How hard is it to find legitimate botulism? Just visit the salad bar at your local Mexican restaurant chain.
That’s not as easy. If you really want to get sick, find some Indian street food.
If they got botulism, it was botox. Counterfeit is not the right word. Low quality, failed QC, are probably more accurate.
Botox is the brand name. Foakley sunglasses are sunglasses but they are counterfeit Oakley's. Conterfeit appears to be correct if she was buying a generic and selling as Botox.
Given how the ChiComs do business it is entirely possible it started out as Botox, which they then diluted and adulterated. A decade or so ago, the Chinese banned American Corn, because of the use of 'GMO'. They caught Chinese nationalists driving around farmers fields and digging up corn seeds, some of which were marked test plots for Monsanto and similar companies (others that were known to use GMO corn varieties). They were mailing these back, for Chinese scientist to reverse engineer and then the Chinese started selling their 'own' GMO varieties, which coincidentally were nearly genetically identical to the Monsanto varieties. The Chicom government draws no distinction between State Espionage and Corporate Espionage, they utilize government agents for both.
Market forces continue to have their way with CNN.
"CNN is laying off roughly 200 employees, or about 6% of its workforce, as part of the cable network’s shift towards digital and CEO Mark Thompson’s push to launch a streaming service."
----WSJ
https://www.wsj.com/business/media/cnn-cuts-jobs-prepares-new-streaming-rollout-2d7245cd?
The thing about cable was that you could force Fox watchers to pay for CNN and MSNBC--and vice versa--even if they didn't watch those channels. Market forces bent over the cable industry by way of streaming, and CNN continues to get spanked.
The thing about streaming is, when you go to a direct-to-consumer model, you have to feed the people what they want or they won't pick it off the menu. Expect CNN's coverage to continue its move to the center.
Shouldn't they rebrand to "SNN", "Streaming News Network"?
CNN+++ , the extra pluses mean we are super cereal this time.
I just envisioned Ralphie's teacher doing the "PLUS! PLUS! PLUS! PLUS!" thing.
“A "C+"?! Oh, no! It can't be!”
Nah. They can keep it as Communist News Network.
CIA News Network. Although maybe not for long.
CNN Argues That They Broke In Defamation Case
CNN hasn’t engaged in fair-minded reporting in decades. This defamation trial was more proof of that. They saw a man trying to aid people left behind by President Biden, realized that, by extension, this was a black eye on the administration, and decided they had to bury him.
Alleged “journalists” are an activist arm of the Democrat Party, and nothing more.
Providing some level of amusement, however, was that after awarding Young $5 million in damages, the jury was set to level the network with punitive damages, which would be significant. And CNN begged for leniency, citing their own financial ruin over the past few years.
Court documents showed that the network’s revenue tanked roughly $400 million in three years.
“So you’ve made a decision that CNN’s liable. But that doesn’t mean that there isn’t a reasonable path forward,” CNN’s lawyer argued to the jury. “Over the next few hours … you’re going to hear about CNN’s net worth. And you’re going to see that the net worth of the company is in subtle decline.”
$400 million isn’t exactly subtle.
Further making it amusing is the fact that CNN, having just been found liable for defamation, felt that any excessive punishment would be unjust because it would hinder their ability to deliver further biased news coverage.
“When natural disasters break out, CNN is there, and that’s hurricanes, that’s wildfires, that’s earthquakes. When conflicts erupt, like some of the ones we’ve heard in this case, CNN’s there,” the lawyer argued. “And providing all that content, that really important content, is expensive.”
A conflict erupted in Afghanistan. CNN was there. And they were found liable for defamation of a hero. That’s the kind of coverage they want to continue.
Before the jury could decide on punitive damages, CNN and Young reached a settlement for an undisclosed amount.
The settlement was quickly announced after an expert witness suggested $150 million was a reasonable punishment for the network. Making it likely that the penalty was somewhere in that ballpark.
https://thepoliticalinsider.com/cnn-found-liable-for-defaming-navy-veteran
Hilarious
LOL, isn't that pretty much the same argument Alex Jones made? Maybe CNN can be auctioned off to the highest bidder like InfoWars.
Turnabout is fair play, right? So why not a judgement against CNN for roughly the amount of the GDP of France?
(if the plaintiff and CNN hadn't agreed to a settlement, that is)
The courts fucked Giuliani, a private individual, to the tune of $150M for the defamation of a couple of government election workers that nobody knows their names.
CNN is a corporation that went after an individual soldier. They should certainly pay more than the $787M that Fox News did for defaming another corporation, which had plenty of money and political backing to defend itself.
As they lose cable revenue, how will Democratic infotainment producers stay solvent? How about direct government payments?
I've seen that argument.
"a just-issued Justice Department memo in which Trump promises to rain down consequences for state and local officials"
8 U.S. Code § 1324 - Bringing in and harboring certain aliens
U.S. Code
(a)Criminal penalties
(1)
(A)Any person who—
(i)knowing that a person is an alien, brings to or attempts to bring to the United States in any manner whatsoever such person at a place other than a designated port of entry or place other than as designated by the Commissioner, regardless of whether such alien has received prior official authorization to come to, enter, or reside in the United States and regardless of any future official action which may be taken with respect to such alien;
(ii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, transports, or moves or attempts to transport or move such alien within the United States by means of transportation or otherwise, in furtherance of such violation of law;
(iii)knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that an alien has come to, entered, or remains in the United States in violation of law, conceals, harbors, or shields from detection, or attempts to conceal, harbor, or shield from detection, such alien in any place, including any building or any means of transportation;
(iv)encourages or induces an alien to come to, enter, or reside in the United States, knowing or in reckless disregard of the fact that such coming to, entry, or residence is or will be in violation of law;
or
(v)
(I)engages in any conspiracy to commit any of the preceding acts, or
(II)aids or abets the commission of any of the preceding acts,
shall be punished as provided in subparagraph (B).
(B)A person who violates subparagraph (A) shall, for each alien in respect to whom such a violation occurs—
(i)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i) or (v)(I) or in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), or (iv) in which the offense was done for the purpose of commercial advantage or private financial gain, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 10 years, or both;
(ii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(ii), (iii), (iv), or (v)(II), be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 5 years, or both;
(iii)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or (v) during and in relation to which the person causes serious bodily injury (as defined in section 1365 of title 18) to, or places in jeopardy the life of, any person, be fined under title 18, imprisoned not more than 20 years, or both; and
(iv)in the case of a violation of subparagraph (A)(i), (ii), (iii), (iv), or
(v) resulting in the death of any person, be punished by death or imprisoned for any term of years or for life, fined under title 18, or both.
Cmon man. We only support novel legal construction as libertarians. Have you learned nothing the last 2 years?
NGOs will be hit hard by actual enforcement.
That law is wrong and should be repealed. It criminalizes freedom of association.
The EO is fine, and there are some state and local officials that better not get in the way of ICE doing their job. They will be detained and imprisoned and then they can freely associate with the scumbags in prison.
Fine, I'll put you down as being opposed to freedom of association.
I’m sure he cares what you put him down as.
Ironic when you were pushing for quarantines during Covid, Mr. Bears-in-trunks.
Quarantines of people who were not sick, based on their non-compliance with a vaccine that doesn't prevent transmission.
It criminalizes freedom of association.
I will never be persuaded that you are an intelligent, if misguided, person. You write far too many things that display a complete lack of critical thinking. This is definitely in contention for the dumbest thing you have ever written.
...porn sites must pay third-party age-verification providers to use software to compare a user's face with their ID photo, held up to the camera, or to use AI to determine if their face looks obviously older than 18...
Use AI to defeat AI.
I'm not sure this isn't a parental rights issue.
I don't think it's entirely unlibertarian to suggest that people don't have the right to sell alcohol to other people's children without a parent's consent.
Doesn't the same logic apply to pr0n?
Keeping some pr0n out of the hands of 14 year old boys entirely is like trying to keep the geese from flying south for the winter, but still.
They already have the right to buy their chilld a smartphone with no parental controls or with parental controls. Use the power at your disposal before asking the government to impose your will on others.
Parents who dont use parental controls are simply bad parents. My 11 year old tried to get the red note app last Sunday on her phone. It is set up to send a request to me for all apps. Easy to deny and talk to them about it.
However there is no real mechanism like that for porn. The ratings based browsing permissions don't really work. If those apps were better, parents would probably push back more on these laws.
I don't trust our government. The Epstein Island shit that went down very likely was a blackmail operation by the CIA. Instead of shutting it down and prosecuting everyone involved, Epstein was able to keep it open, and the CIA then had leverage over prominent politicians and businessmen from around the world.
Now, Epstein island is so much worse, but the government (and by extension people in the government/deep state) having data on exactly what pornography everyone is viewing is ripe for exploitation, even if the porn one is viewing is completely legal. For example, if there were a database on what porn Trump viewed, don't you think that would have been weaponized against him, especially if it were an embarrassing (but totally legal) type of porn?
Trump may be the only billionaire who never went to Epstein Island. Very frustrating for the spooks.
And to think we only had the scrambled Playboy Channel.
“I think I see a boob! Oh, wait, maybe not.”
No National Geographic?
Well, if you wanted to see African tribal boobs…
Hello when you were 12 or 13 a boob was a boob. Also, reference the Ron White bit on how men will always say yes to seeing boobs.
The real problem isn't parents that don't want their kids watching porn are demanding that the government do something. The real problem is, which is customary, that someone is afraid that someone else is or might or could be doing the wrong thing / not doing the right thing and the government should impose the former's preferences over the latter.
I think people are legitimately concerned about the effects of pr0n on children just like they're concerned about the quality of public schools, kids being subjected to critical race theory, girls competing with boys in sports, kids being fed garbage food at school, etc.
It’s easy to make fun of the younger generation for their porn obsession, but I honestly can’t imagine 14 yr old me with unlimited access to porn.
Another thing that Gen X had better, not only sneaking your dad's Playboys and Penthouses was titillating, but it had the added bonus of a sniff of danger.
Had a friend who’s older brother hid his playboys in his D&D boxes we found.
In the 18 months since the fires, a total of 3 out of some 2,000 destroyed/damaged homes have been rebuilt.
To be fair to Hawaii, Oprah really wants that property.
But how many EV chargers did Biden build there?
A Roundup reader sent this my way, disagreeing with my recent characterization of Elon Musk as a free speech supporter: "Last week, the Indian government imposed
Guessing this was Jeff, qb, or Mike.
Musk has already stated he runs Twitter at fe minimus compliance with a country's legal system, limiting it to accounts in those countries.
Asking for Musk to be arrested or fined like Brazil is pretty fucking dumb.
My guess is this person also supported censorship in the US by SV but is trying to force a gotcha against his new enemy Musk.
This reaks of the standard liberal attack to cover their own hypocrisy.
It is one thing to resist blanket demands to be a propaganda arm of the government (Brazil) and another to to enforce limited time and place restrictions for a specific purpose as dictated by law or legal process.
Yup.
Place your bets folks. Who is the disingenuous fucker who's buttmad that Liz didn't call Musk a Nazi?
Top Pick: White Mike/Fucksalad/Quixton Bricks -200 odds
Favorites to place: Lying Jeffy, Shrike + all his socks, Sarckles, misconstrueman, Jewfree, Brandyfuck, Diet Shrike, Windy attorney, whoever DOL/KAR is pretending to be, Moderation4never,
Still possible: Tony, Misek,
I know White Mike regards himself as staff, and is always trying to police speech here, so he's my number one pick.
Mike was my first guess too.
All the hallmarks of a White Mike disinformation campaign.
None of them are informed enough to know about that unless it was in their talking points email. I bet it was probably a reader who doesn't comment or it would have been in the comments. Wonder why Liz didn't just ignore it?
Et tu, ML?
Let's not make this personal. I've got no issues with you.
Have I criticized Musk or called anyone a Nazi? Ever?
You know the only reason Jesse throws my name out there is because I revealed his confirmation bias to believe anything that supports his narrative while he wailed and lied back at me.
https://reason.com/2025/01/03/bernie-sanders-is-still-wrong-about-immigration/?comments=true#comment-10855010
Going along with the accusation you're White Mike/Ducksalad's sock. But I have no evidence of that, so you're right. I take that back.
Thank you.
By the way. I'm a real person. My real name is also Jesse, but I was given the nickname Brix at birth by my grandfather in my hometown of Quicktown, PA.
Here's the totality of my social media presence:
https://youtube.com/@jessealt5415?si=soe5VVwgkQfe1NFi
It's always interesting to put a face to a Reason commenter. (assuming that tractor video featured you, and you weren't just posting someone else's video)
Thanks. Yeah that's me. If I was gonna steal an identity, I could do much better.
I was a bit surprised at how many views you got on some of those videos, for the subject matter. I didn't realize tractors were such a popular subject. To each his own, I guess.
Oddly no hot chicks though.
My gay uncle’s boyfriend is into tractors.
Tractors are cool. Everyone should have their favorite brand. Mine is orange but I live in the city of the gréen deeres
My gay uncle’s boyfriend is into tractors
First time ive heard of a gay autistic man. I guess it happens.
Everyone should have their favorite brand. Mine is orange
Same here. If I was gonna make another homebuilt tractor again I'd paint it orange. I was afraid it woudn't be worthy. Maybe someday.
I've got $1000 that it's not a 'he' and her name rhymes with Dhikha Salmia.
The "HOWCUM MUSK NO TELL INDIA TO BUILD OWN TWITTER? MUST BE NASHUNALIST FREE SPEECH UHPPRESSOR." could not possibly be more on brand.
Projection. Virtually everything the left denounces is simply an admission of things they are currently doing but that they don't want the other side to do.
Thought the same thing. Most likely Mike Liarson, dba ducksalad.
I thought he was called “Dicksalad”.
He is. Dee is also acceptable.
Better idea: Call balls and strikes.
That's more of an "in other words" idea.
"an enduring belief that Mrs. Robinson from The Graduate is the most beautiful woman to ever exist and that aging gracefully is the proper path"
Anne Bancroft was 35 when she played Mrs Robinson.
Born September 17, 1931. The Graduate was released December 21, 1967 but obviously filmed a bit earlier.
Recognizing that earlier generations of upper class women often married and had children around 20 years old.
Here's to you Mrs Robinson.
Sigh. I sorta remember when I was young enough to consider a 35 year old woman "old".
Now... I'm saddened to realize just how old I am when 35 y/o women are "young ladies"...
Re: grace and class-
Cigarettes, alcohol, and miniskirts >> needles, botox, and yoga pants.
It's like praline ice cream vs. Superman or birthday cake ice cream. It's fine if you like the latter but don't be a retard and try and pretend that *any* ice cream is classy.
https://hotair.com/david-strom/2025/01/22/minnesotas-ongoing-insurrection-n3799064
Each party won 67 seats--at least, they thought so. But in a typical fashion, the Democrats ignored electoral laws and illegally put forward an ineligible candidate, and after a challenge, he was disqualified from serving.
Then, in typical fashion, our esteemed Governor Tim Walz broke another law and called a special election earlier than was allowed by law. The Minnesota Supreme Court, dominated by Democrats, ruled against Walz' order, ensuring that a special election couldn't be held until March.
That leaves Republicans with a clear majority, and with that majority, they make up a quorum. The rules and laws on all this are unambiguous.
Hence the pickle. Democrats don't believe in laws and rules, at least when it comes to Democrats.
What to do? They chose to declare themselves, including the illegally elected state representative, sworn in and believed they had denied a quorum to the Republicans. They are boycotting the session--they haven't shown up to work yet and assert without legal standing (they are challenging the rules all the way to the Supreme Court, which has yet to rule on the quorum issue) that, anything that the Republicans do is illegitimate.
This obnoxious fat fucker disrupting hearings...using threat of media support for their cause...
https://x.com/WalterHudson/status/1881930408163774925
Walter Hudson
@WalterHudson
Lots of questions tonight along the lines of, "Why weren't these people arrested."
They absolutely could have been.
What you should understand is that their goal was physical confrontation.
How do we know? Because the moron leading them repeatedly said so.
Only conservatives can commit an insurrection.
That walrus could clog up the woodchipper, better stick to the Rittenhouse solution.
He's like an unfunny trans Sam Kennison.
Time to send the State Patrol out to round up the boycotters.
Except that they answer to Tim Walz (D).
Give Minnesota to Canada?
How about just Duluth and the Twin cities, the rest of Minnesota is fairly well balanced. And I'm not sure how leftist Duluth is anymore (used to be pretty blue because of the unions but union voters are fast becoming reddish purple).
I was told over and over that any legal challenge by any party who believes to have been wronged is right and proper and shouldn't be criticized and not at all improper. Oh wait, that only applies to Trump and his 5000000+ lawsuits over the 2020 election?
Strawman much, Jeffy?
Nowhere did anyone argue that issuing a legal challenge was improper. Strawman, indeed.
If you're a Democrat, your mission over the next four years
should you choice to accept it, is to learn communication skills like how to talk to normies.
When is demonstrating that they hate America, it's people and principles ever not the goal of Democrats? Nancy and Liz need to learn to judge people by their actions and results, not hazy rhetoric.
And just maybe, America is learning to hate Democrats right back.
"Whatever the Party holds to be the truth, is truth. It is impossible to see reality except by looking through the eyes of the Party."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/former-obama-aide-tells-msnbc-democrats-need-to-stop-talking-like-a-press-release/vi-AA1xFnVj
Former Obama staffers Jon Lovett, Jon Favreau and Tommy Vietor urged Democrats to speak normally during an interview on MSNBC on Wednesday, and said members of the party should stop speaking like a press release.
Fucking LOL that these faggots have to remind their team members to talk like normal human beings and not a bunch of commie "Four legs good, two legs bad!" automatons.
Pretty elegant proof that even Democrats recognize that they are abnormal to any actual functioning human society.
Even better--one of those dorks said, "We are not able to successfully communicate the threat that Trump poses."
They've been doing nothing but screaming about it for a decade now. It's not working anymore because males in particular have finally come around to understanding how much the Democrats hate them, and have hated them for at least two generations. A party that bends to the emotionalist whims of neurotic, entitled, radical women will never be able to not alienate men. That whole Marcusian "clear and present danger" alarmism has no credibility.
None of them are willing to acknowledge that this past election was a massive middle finger to their team, even with all the ballot stuffing that took place in California and the northeast to limit the damage.
Hey now, don’t sell Illinois short on the ballot stuffing. They’re the kings of it in Chicago.
Democrats just need to discover what is worse than "Hitler!". Then they can really defeat Trump.
Jewish Hitler?
I mean, he's Hitler...and a Jew?
That doubles down on the leftist hate.
Zionist Hitler
Napoleon? He was a dictator, but fairly benign and unlike most dictators was fairly successful, except for all the wars (which he mainly won until he made the mistake of destroying his Army in Russia). If he could have managed peace for any extended period, it's likely France would remain an empire today. An effective dictator is an anomaly and far more dangerous than an ineffective one.
Dude, Democrat men eat carburetors for breakfast. What’s more normal than that?
The fact that Trump won despite all that ballot stuffing is telling.
They should recognize a massive middle finger by now: see/ inflation reduction act, best joe biden ever, etc….
If that doesn’t say “we have zero respect for your intelligence”, nothing does.
It's too bad Phil Hartman's dead, he, Jon Lovitz, and *The* Jon Favreau discussing the exact same topic would be a hilarious SNL sketch.
Clap...clap...clap...cl
I don't know who Will Stancil is, which leads me to believe that you could indeed pull of his rubber mask and discover Gavin Newsom underneath.
make sure every single thing Americans hear about their federal government, and the state of the country, is bad.
Pure evil. I wouldn't be surprised to peel off that mask and find Zombie Karl Marx.
"How to Raise a Sovereign Child"
Spare the rod, spoil the child?
Marry a King?
Next EO....Station troops on our border with non-lethal anti-riot gear (sound, microwave) to repel illegal aliens.
Fuck that. Bullets.
YouGov - President Trump's favorability rating among ages 18-29
January 2017
Favorable: 30% (-27)
Unfavorable: 57%
January 2025
Favorable: 53% (+11)
Unfavorable: 42%
Take the college girls out of the equation an he's killing it. The Democrats are the party of old CNN-watching boomers now.
Tik tok bump
Shit, that's even with all of the feminist college whores factored in? This political deviation between Zoomer males and females is really accelerating.
Zoomer males vs AWFLs in training.
Almost 40% of women 18-29 voted for Trump, up from around 30%.
My Nephew and all his male friends who just turned 18 and voted, voted for Trump because they don't want to fight for Ukraine. smart kids
Good for them.
The same people who…
Shut down your business
Yelled at your kids for not wearing masks
Wouldn’t let you visit your dying parents
Kicked out soldiers for refusing a vaccine
Lied about the origins of Covid
Tried to enact a nationwide vaccine mandate
Censored us on social media
Tried to create a ministry of truth
Lied about Hunter Biden’s laptop
Covered up Joe Biden’s dementia
Stopped enforcing immigration laws
Let 10M+ illegal immigrants cross the border
Installed DEI commissars in every agency
Raised pride flags at overseas embassies
Let biological males compete in girls sports
Weaponized the DOJ to attack Trump
Used lawfare against Elon’s companies
Wasted trillions on left-wing boondoggles
Defended Biden pardoning his family
Wanted to give Ukraine a blank check
Tried to forgive billions in student loans
Spent four years lying to us every single day
…are very concerned that Donald Trump is going to abuse executive power.
Leftists always project.
They can go fuck themselves.
Pierre Poilievre torches another journalist who tries to culture war him
Another Poilievre drive by.
PP torches Trudeau's appointed successor Mark Carney.
"She touched my pee-pee, Steve."
Those were beautiful. I sincerely hope the Conservative Party wins decisively in the next election and can kick the NDP to the curb with the trash and the Liberals.
Classic.
Republicans really need to study him.
"...Following President Donald Trump's campaign trail announcement that he would launch the largest deportation effort in American history, the Mexican government under President Claudia Sheinbaum started readying itself to serve as an oppositional force to Trump..."
Opposing Trump's effort to send those here illegally back there? I guess laws do not apply to the Mexican government.
Good God, what an anti-humanist, repatrioting people to their native land. How will Mexico deal with this inhumanity.
BEASTMODE Rep. Tim Burchett: CNN’s Ratings Are Lower Than Spongebob Reruns
Who lives under a pineapple under the sea?
CNN dumbshits!
Such a punchable face. (Not Tim)
make sure every single thing Americans hear about their federal government, and the state of the country, is
badHilter/NazisExcept for the devout Party faithful, "Hitler" and "Nazi", like "racist", have pretty much lost meaning and effect. Democrats need next-gen slurs.
It doesn't help that like 99% of World War I vets have passed on, and about half of the silent generation. Also, given the state of our education, most youth today couldn't differentiate between WWI and WWII.
Umm. The WW1 vets are gone.
For the record
Laken Riley Act is bipartisan legislation. Senate vote 64-35 (12 D votes), House vote 263-156 (46 D votes).
All the votes against it were from Democrats.
Tells one what and who the Democrats’ priorities are.
Their talking point seems to be that racist red states will start falsely arresting illegals to trigger the conditions of the act.
Don’t they already drive around in pickup trucks that say “Immigrant Hunter” in those states? They’re already being murdered!!!
Also, Rubio confirmed as Sec State in Senate 99-0.
Must have been IC approved.
Rubio's actually done a pretty effective job of cultivating political relationships during his time in the Senate. I wasn't expecting something unanimous, but I did figure he'd get at least 75% total.
That sure is a hell of a lot closer to actual "bipartisan legislation" than M4E's assertion of 3 Republicans on a bill.
"Many Americans will find it hard to accept the expulsion of undocumented immigrants who have lived here for many years and built stable lives."
----David Leonhardt, The New York Times.
Many Americans enthusiastically accepted nuclear bombs being dropped on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.
Many Americans accepted that the people of Iraq wanted the United States to bomb, invade, and occupy their country.
Many Americans accepted slavery, Jim Crow, and the Klan.
"Many" is a weasel-word.
"A weasel word, or anonymous authority, is a word or phrase aimed at creating an impression that something specific and meaningful has been said, when in fact only a vague, ambiguous, or irrelevant claim has been communicated."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weasel_word
President Trump won a mandate from the swing voters in every swing state to deport illegal immigrants. It's up to those of us who see immigration as an asset to the American economy to persuade those swing voters in those swing states to change their minds--with facts and logic. It's hard to do that when so many people on the pro-immigration side are so contemptuous of average Americans. When
manypeople think we hold them in contempt, it's hard for them to even hear what we have to say.49.8% of votes cast, and 31.8% of eligible voters, is not a mandate.
And there’s that Democrat talking point. But Sarc will claim he’s so not a Democrat.
You're seriously parroting this bullshit? Funny how these stats are only pulled out when a Democrat loses.
Oh shit. I forgot. Democrats also lie and claim they have a mandate when they do not. That makes it ok when Trump and His defenders do the same thing. My bad. Besides that, the stats themselves are leftist because they disagree with Trump and His defenders.
You didn't forget. You're only complaining now because it isn't a Democrat. You're principled that way.
The stats are similar every time regardless of the winner, and have been for decades. Spare us the hand-waving, especially because you never brought it up when a Democrat won.
I bring it up any time a politician claims a razor thin win is a mandate, regardless of political party. Don't project your partisanship onto me. Besides, you haven't said anything to refute the stats themselves or what they mean. You're just attacking the messenger, like a good partisan twat.
You bring it up because it’s the Democrat talking point du jour.
Yeah, I'm sure this passive-aggressive talking point the left ALWAYS pulls out when they lose is just a coincidence.
The website weasel saying weasel things.
I'd be interested to see a previous instance where you did this and the politician involved was a Democrat.
You'll have to talk to the losers with thousands of bookmarks. Only problem is that such a comment would contradict the narrative that they've built, so they would never bookmark it. They're not burdened with any sense of honesty.
I'm sure I said something of the sort when Biden claimed to have a mandate. But I'm not going to sift through comments to find it. Because even if I did, you'd ignore it. You'd have to. It would contradict the narrative.
You’re weaseling out of it so you can avoid answering the actual question.
Nobody believes you said it.
"I'm sure I said something of the sort",/i>
You absolutely know you did nothing of the sort.
So, no cite is forthcoming?
You go over to the Profile|Account Settings, then "View My Comment History", then search for mandate, maybe? Won't take but a minute or two...scroll down in the time sequence to circa 2020 to avoid any recent trump mandate screeds. Should pop right out.
You buy stock in a farm growing straw, Sarc?
That talking point, trying to claim there no mandate because a minority of the total population, but not of people who cared enough to vote, is the same talking point being used currently in Democrat-owned media and by Democrats on X and other social media. You obviously picked it up either from them or whatever 50 cent source is paying you to comment.
Poor sarc doesn’t even get fifty cents. He just does this because he’s a lonely, miserable drunk who enjoys verbal abuse.
This would normally be where a Democrat would be crowing about "but we won the national vote! the EC is a sham!".
You can't even do that, so now you're reduced to this.
This would normally be where a Democrat would be crowing about "but we won the national vote! the EC is a sham!".
Bingo. It's the same thing they do every time they lose. I even see that shit in local elections, with the "there was low voter turnout" excuse thrown in despite the fact that voter turnout was similar in years that their side won.
These faggots always have an excuse when their historic determinism gets kicked in the nuts.
This will come as a shock to you, being that you think I believe what my hate club says instead of what I say, but I've always defended the EC.
Cite?
Trump has a mandate because of 312 EC votes.
In 1992 Bill Clinton had 370 EC votes, but only 43% of the popular vote.
By what you just said that would be a mandate, except he's a Democrat.
Your cognitive dissonance must be painful.
False equivalency, Sarc. Why not compare Trump’s 2024 win with others who’ve won a majority of votes, like Obama?
This is very important to sarc for some reason.
If you are believer of the EC, the popular vote doesn't matter. But you want to keep talking about it.
Huh, It was a mandate every time the Dems won the popular vote by similar margins. What made you change your min(D)?
The Democrat talking point du jour. It’s all over left wing X, media, and social media.
Yeah, some dumbshit parroted in the Morning Links here a couple days ago.
And some dumbshit parroted it here today, too.
If only the GOP was as good at, um, harvesting votes as Democrats, and they could have gotten over 50% (and over 100% participation).
Here's something I posted years ago when Democrats were crying about "majority of voters" and "won the popular vote!"
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It is true that Sec. Clinton received more popular votes than Trump. But not a majority (as many have claimed), at 61.0M to 60.4M with about 6M "other".
And again, so what? EC votes are all that count, in the rules of the game. Which she knew going in. She lost 5 states that Obama carried twice.
If this were a football game, an analogous case might be: Clinton had 610 yards of total offense while Trump had 604 yards, but Clinton lost by 4 touchdowns after having 5 turnovers. She simply failed to do the things necessary to score.
The rookie Trump strategically and tactically outplayed the veteran--her, the master politician and most qualified person to ever run for the office,?!
And he is perhaps the most vilified person (and not without cause) ever to run for the office and before the election Mr. Obama had campaigned more for Democrat Hillary Clinton than any modern sitting president had for his party’s nominee.
And she still couldn't muster the win?
Do you *really* want to console yourself by crying about the fact that she had 6 more yards of total offense?
About the same time as that other oldie...I also wrote this comment
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Your use of the phrase "the majority of Americans voted AGAINST Trump" baffles me.
The population of the US is about 324M people.
Sec. Clinton received about 60.9M votes (the final numbers are still being tallied). 60.9M is not a majority of 324M (i.e., 162M).
Given citizenship and age rules, there are about 215M people who are eligible voters. 60.9M is not a majority of eligible voters (i.e., 107.5M).
A large number of eligible voters chose to not vote. About 127.6M votes were actually cast (again, still tallying). 60.9M is not a majority of the total number of votes cast (i.e., 63.8M).
Sec. Clinton does appear to have received a plurality of the votes cast, given her 60.9M compared to Mr. Trump's 60.3M votes. Of all votes cast, her edge is less than one-half of one percent (0.47%).
But with 4.1M+ voting for the Libertarian Gary Johnson, 1.2M+ voting for Green Jill Stein, and about 0.8M for other candidates, a statement such as "the majority of Americans voted AGAINST Trump" is just as true as "the majority of Americans voted AGAINST Clinton" if we assume you actually meant "among the people who voted".
That is, between Trump, Johnson, Stein, and others a majority of voters (66.4M) cast their ballot for someone other than Clinton. Likewise, between Clinton, Johnson, Stein, and others a majority of voters (67M) cast their ballot for someone other than Trump.
But so what? She failed to win enough state's electoral college delegates. Those were the rules when the game started--no one changed them.
Poor sarc.
Can't you do this with any election?
But a Republican Congress is...
It's hard to do that when so many people on the pro-immigration side are so contemptuous of average Americans.
Their contempt for average Americans is the whole foundation of their support for mass immigration. They hate citizens and love foreigners. Thats not something that can be modified when it's the keystone of their ideology.
Cheap labor is a resource like cheap energy.
If cheap labor were a drag on the economy, the slowest growing economy in the world over the last 25 years must have been China's.
And they wouldn't be worried about their declining population.
Not everyone who thinks immigration is a good thing is contemptuous of average working Americans, but there seems to be a concentration of the contemptuous in the progressive media.
I would agree that the whole foundation of progressivism is based on contempt for the will of average people--because, they believe, the average person is racist, homophobic, misogynistic, and xenophobic.
Succinctly expressed in "The Giver"
"People are weak. People are selfish. When people have the freedom to choose, they choose wrong. Every single time."
It's up to those of us who see immigration as an asset to the American economy to persuade those swing voters in those swing states to change their minds--with facts and logic.
So I'll just take a page out of the Team Red playbook and say that why should we pro-immigration people fight with one hand tied behind our back when the other side plays dirty... and wins?
By and large, the immigration restriction crowd didn't convince people to support 'mass deportations' by using facts and logic. They used fear and emotion and outrage. Time and again, they depicted immigrants (both illegal AND legal) as either welfare bums, violent thugs, or depraved lunatics who do things like eat pets. And it worked.
So I have absolutely no problem tugging on some emotional heartstrings and showing immigrant grandmas being dragged into the street by government goons. That is what the other side demanded, and they have no room to complain now when their preferred policies results in abhorrent behavior like that.
I agree with Lying Jeffy here. Him and his Team should continue calling everyone Nazis.
It's only a matter of time until the Trump crowd overplay their hand. There's a fair number of people in MAGA land who want just less immigration, of all kinds, or even no immigration at all. And it's fundamentally because they really are xenophobic bigots. They view immigrants as inferior and Americans as superior. And they are going to stick their foot in their mouths and talk about "we don't need more of those vermin here" or some such. We pro-immigration people should repeat those offensive comments for all to hear and let the world know that all of this talk about reducing immigration because of crime, or because of welfare, or because of national security, or because of all of these superficially neutral reasons, they were all a smokescreen, just a dishonest motte and bailey approach. They fundamentally want less immigration because they hate 'those people'. I have enough hope in the majority of people that they will not permit themselves to endorse such a blatantly offensive and bigoted policy and they will reject the worst excesses of Trumpism. But if the other side really can get the whole country to accept nativist xenophobic bigotry, then we are frankly doomed.
I don't think we are remotely close to overplaying the hand.
If anything, too timid.
You literally argued that immigrant child molesters should be allowed to claim asylum out of lefty bullshit "oppression" claims.
You have zero credibility when it comes to the benefits of mass immigration. And the US was hardly an economic basket case when it had 100 million fewer people living here.
You are correct, Jeffy has zero credibility. And why?
By and large, the immigration restriction crowd didn't convince people to support 'mass deportations' by using facts and logic. They used fear and emotion and outrage.
They fundamentally want less immigration because they hate 'those people'. I have enough hope in the majority of people that they will not permit themselves to endorse such a blatantly offensive and bigoted policy and they will reject the worst excesses of Trumpism. But if the other side really can get the whole country to accept nativist xenophobic bigotry, then we are frankly doomed.
He lambasts the use of fear and emotion and outrage and then immediately launches into an argument based on fear and emotion and outrage. It is projection. It is fallacious nonsense. It is dishonest.
It's only a matter of time until the Trump crowd overplay their hand.
Thanks for the concern troll.
Lol. Your team bases a large part of their argument on “they do the jobs Americans won’t do”, and you’re whining about people who think they are “inferior”? That’s rich.
Also, their societies are a reflection of who they are. Don’t like people calling balls and strikes? Get out of the game.
You’re really just pissed off that your virtue signaling means nothing anymore. Talk about overplaying a hand! Haha.
Hey Jeff, I’ve been following your posts for a while now, and while I don’t usually comment, I felt compelled to share a thought. It's clear that you're empathetic and compassionate toward a variety of groups including immigrants, gays, trans, pedo's and rapist, which I respect. However, I've noticed that your perspectives on certain topics might reflect a more empathetic, feminine viewpoint, and I wonder if this could be related to your overall health and well-being.
I’d encourage you to consider having your testosterone levels checked. Low T levels can sometimes lead to shifts in mood, energy, and even political outlook. Some recent studies suggest that when testosterone levels are balanced, some men notice a change in how they approach life and certain issues. Of course, this is a personal journey, but if your T levels are low, you might benefit from natural or medical options to bring them back into balance.
Additionally, raising testosterone levels can help with muscle development and fat loss, which might lead to not just a physical transformation, but also an improvement in mental clarity and focus. Just something worth considering for your overall health and well-being!
Hey, "Bob", thanks for your "concern". It is amusing that you think that masculinity is associated with being anti-immigrant and anti-gay. Please, why don't you tell us what other types of negative (perhaps even 'toxic') traits that you think are associated with masculinity.
Jeff, there are plenty of alpha males who are pro-immigrant and pro-gay, but it's not in spite of their personal best interest. My concern for you is that you show a toxic level of empathy that leads you to stand up for the rights of the "downtrodden" in spite of the fact that ultimately it does not benefit the country, it's people, the "downtrodden" and even you.
He possesses the same type of pathological altruism that his lefty boos have. He even argued that child molesters should be allowed to enter the country on asylum claims.
He argued that if a rapist ejaculates outside the child it isn't as bad.
He argued that standing naked in your window in full view of a bus stop where kids are waiting is not a violation of the NAP.
Pretty notable on how he tells on himself like that, isn't it?
Don't worry. Jeff's beliefs are not affected by anything other than what the PDF containing his morning Media Matters talking points tell him. If they pay him 50 cents a post tomorrow to praise Trump he'll do that too.
The only reason Jeff has low T is because he is unbelievably obese, and any sympathy towards women is based on what he was told to say.
While I have always (barely) resisted the urge to call Jeff a “fat, drunken, pedo groomer faggot” in the past in favor of more mundane insults like “idiot”, “moron”, or “little bitch”, I gotta say, “Low T Jeffy” kinda hits the sweet spot for me.
Thanks, bob.
It's funny because he admitted he was fat.
LOL! +1
You have my respect, Bob. I might have to bookmark this comment for posterity.
Lol. This is brilliant.
*golf clap*
Lol. Ok. Immigration restrictionists were “tricked” by disinformation? Is that what you’re going with, Jeff?
By all means, continue with this.
It's up to those of us who see immigration as an asset to the American economy to persuade those swing voters in those swing states to change their minds--with facts and logic. It's hard to do that when so many people on the pro-immigration side are so contemptuous of average Americans. When many people think we hold them in contempt, it's hard for them to even hear what we have to say.
I must say, your judicious use of the royal 'we' isn't convincing me that you aren't playing sarcasmic here once again. Trying to talk about how 'we' libertarians should get those deplorables to think rightly about immigration (in a welfare state without talking about the welfare state). You do realize that of all the flavors of government and partisanship and all the flavors even of libertarianism, "open borders" really only belongs to the 'anarcho-' camp(s), right? That solidly libertarian thinkers... like the Founding Fathers... obviously didn't believe in such ideological insanity.
Again, the old Ken wouldn't have used the 'we' in such a fashion because the old Ken wouldn't have lumped himself in with the patently retarded "Immigration is always an unbridled social good."/"Borders are just like, an abstract social construct." ideology, even if he agreed with the more valorous motivations.
Honestly, objectively, I don't know and can't possibly tell if there actually is a distinct "Old Ken" and a "New Ken". If they are the same person; the contemporary version of Ken Shultz that posts links to the Wikipedia definition of 'Weasel words' is clearly the inferior one.
Maybe, just maybe, Ken is the same Ken that he's always been, and it's Team Red that has shifted in his absence from a position of "maybe we should reduce immigration a little bit..." to something like "GET RID OF THE VERMIN AND SCUM"
And yet here you are.
The idea that persuasion is the libertarian solution is about as libertarian as we libertarians can possibly be. After all, we're not about seizing the reins of power and inflicting libertarian solutions on an unwilling population.
If I'm trying to persuade people, I don't think they're deplorable. It's the progressives who think so little of "the deplorables" that they can't even imagine trying to persuade them of anything. I want to reason with people--from the CEO to the homeless guy in the park.
Libertopia happens when we persuade enough people to want it.
Wikipedia is awesome. It has lots of links you can go check out yourself.
Are you saying that definition of "weasel words" is wrong? Looks right on to me.
If I'd linked to the definition of "weasel words" elsewhere, the real definition would still be the same.
If I'd linked to the definition of "weasel words" elsewhere, the real definition would still be the same.
Yeah, and this would still be about the most hackneyed sarc or mtrueman-level response/deflection imaginable.
It really would. I wasn't getting the creepy doppelganger vibe until he wrote, "Wikipedia is awesome."
Did "old Ken" ever write about Libertopia?
It's like someone told an AI to write comments like Shultz would. Seems off. I'm starting to call rat's ass.
Maybe Nardz & the Ukraine thing cause him to lose a cog or something.
Yeah it does look like AI. This is not the original Ken.
Do you really not know what weasel words are?
Go look them up yourself using what source you want. Wikipedia is generally better than other sources because you can check their sources easily with links.
And the truth remains that weasel words are what they are regardless of what any source says about them. If you want to perpetrate the appeal to authority fallacy, don't expect me to help you.
Do you know what the appeal to authority fallacy is, or do you need me to give you a link for that, too?
"...but also adding that he would "follow the law."..."
Must not be a D.
{I was told that having a guillotine constituted insurrection!]
The liberal establishment promised that if Trump ever returned to power, millions would flood the streets in righteous protest.
Well, it turns out that righteous anger is a lot less appealing when the temperature drops below 20°F. As Donald Trump prepared to take the oath of office for his historic second term, the mighty resistance could barely muster enough protesters to fill a Starbucks.
According to the Daily Caller News Foundation’s on-scene reporting, protest organizers ANSWER Coalition and People’s Forum promised 10,000 demonstrators would converge on Malcolm X Park at 9:00 AM.
By noon, only dozens had braved the January cold, huddled around unused megaphones and holding soggy signs in the snow.
“We are here on a day that is so cold that they decided to put the inauguration indoors,” one speaker declared to rows of empty chairs. “But for us, we’re saying that we will be here no matter what, no matter how cold it is!” The weather, apparently, had other plans.
The few protesters who did show up appeared more focused on radical demands than mainstream political opposition.
Their platform included releasing what they termed “Palestinian political prisoners” and demanding “the abolition of police, prisons, and cages.” The coup de grâce: a wooden guillotine with fake blood and the ominous inscription “come get sum.”
By 2:00 PM at Lafayette Square, the scene had become almost comical. About two dozen self-described “revolutionary communists” found themselves consistently outnumbered by passing Trump supporters, who responded with grins and occasional blasts from ceremonial ram’s horns.
“I was here eight years ago. This is 1% of that,” observed Anneka Hall, a Trump supporter from California who came to witness both the protests and the inauguration. Even the protesters seemed to acknowledge their diminished impact, with one organizer admitting to TIME magazine that “the fight just isn’t there anymore.”
https://pjnewsletter.com/anti-trump-protesters-humiliated
The left left the left.
The left left planet reality.
Yeah, but how many were Fibbies?
>"She said, however, that her government planned to 'voluntarily' return any non-Mexican nationals
Its amazing how people will step up and what they can do once you make a problem *their problem*.
>At least one patient developed botulism following injections.
Then . . . it *wasn't* 'counterfeit', was it?
> the average margin of error for these commercial face-estimation services is about three years, meaning that those older than 21 are unlikely to ever need to show ID."
Cue ENB's screaming about how important it is that 18 year olds have unrestricted access to pornography.
" . . . contingent on the whims of the Trump administration."
Fact check:
. . . contingent on the laws of the United States of America.
How, if those 4% are always a 'net benefit' to the US, are they going to be a burden in Mexico?
Is immigration of people into your country always a benefit or not? Mexico doesn't even have much of a benefits net for them to exploit and they don't need to wait for legal permission to work so they should be super-productive, right?
"If you're a Democrat, your mission over the next four years can be easily condensed to one line: get a brain."
There! I fixed it for you!
I sincerely doubt some of them have a clue how to get a brain. Take AOC for instance. She’s got nothing but air between her ears, and I think some sort of “brainicide” as she obviously lacks functioning brain cells.
Just a reminder: the WEF globalists are in Davos this week. If anyone has a spare nuke and feels itchy to blow someplace up, maybe you can have some fun AND do the people of the world a favor.
One can only hope.
That shrimpdicked poltroon Olaf Scholz was crying about Elon criticizing the Eurocucks and their anti-citizen policies yesterday.
Please please please please giant meteor
Hey, are you a member of the Meteor Party, like me? I had a yard sign and everything.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2025/01/23/has-trump-killed-davos-man/
Reports from Davos indicate that talk of Trump ‘has taken over all the dinner-party chats’, both ‘on and off the record’. His election has obviously rattled the self-satisfied globalist oligarchs, calling into question the viability of their worldview. In his inaugural speech, Trump challenged every trendy cause embraced by the Davos crowd. I wish I had been a fly on the wall to see the reaction at the WEF when Trump announced his intention to ‘Drill, baby, drill’ for oil. Or when he declared that ‘radical gender ideology’ will be banned in federal institutions, as there is ‘only male or female’.
The report shrilly warned that ‘foreign and domestic actors alike will leverage misinformation and disinformation to further widen societal and political divides’. It explicitly connected the alleged risks posed by fake news to the outcomes of numerous upcoming elections. It expressed fears that ‘the widespread use of misinformation and disinformation… may undermine the legitimacy of newly elected governments’.
What the WEF was really saying is that the ‘wrong’ kind of people and parties could prevail in these elections.
POTUS Trump totally blew their little minds = globalists
Good. Let the WEF assholes sweat, shake, and fear what’s coming for them.
Trump telling them, "Fuck around and find out" is exactly the message these people need. Who the fuck else are they going to go to for military protection? China? India? Iran?
We're the only reason they've had a decades long holiday from history to indulge all kinds of social experimentation and manipulation that never would have been accepted otherwise. It's finally time for them to remember that they're OUR vassals, not the other way around, and if they want to reconsider that, we can also reconsider whatever diplomatic relationships we have with them, and that all their money doesn't mean anything when a soft-nosed bullet to the back of their collective heads would be the cheapest defense acquisition program we've ever had.
The report shrilly warned that ‘foreign and domestic actors alike will leverage misinformation and disinformation to further widen societal and political divides’.
Honestly? Good. These fucks have been executing a socio-economic and cultural revolution across the entire west ever since the end of the Cold War. They've been normalizing shit that previously was rightfully confined to the esoteric fever swamps of academia, only to be unleashed like a virus in the mid-1990s. They've conducted numerous color revolutions and fomented dozens of overseas conflicts. They've gone full-bore on trying to jawbone everyone into following the left-liberal consensus on socialist economics and marxist cultural institutions.
They've been so brazen in their god complexes that they've exacerbated the very divisions they disingenuously complain about, since it's all in the service of following a neo-maoist unity-criticism-unity dialectic. These people need to be terrified, and they need to have their self-regard shoved back down their throats until they choke to death on it.
Literally nothing they claim about misinformation and disinformation should be taken at face value. These are just more left-wing shibboleths to manipulate people into going along with their retarded political theology.
If the US is persecuting these innocent, harmless, people, would that not now mean that Canada, Mexico, and all of the EU *MUST* give them asylum?
Do they not now have a moral duty to do so?
Or is it only the US that does?
Oooooooooooo. Hadn't thought of that!
hmmm emoji.
Years ago other countries were mad that the US was trying to be the world's police and now they're mad we don't want to be the world's hotel.
Not "hotel". More like demanding that we are the world's spare bedroom plus the futon in the living room, with free access to the fridge and the car.
'Accordingly, Mexico has started constructing giant tent shelters in nine border towns across the country's north, which will "provide deported Mexicans with food, temporary housing, medical care, and assistance in obtaining identity documents" (per Reuters), as well as the opportunity to board buses to be sent back to their hometowns, free of charge. The program also seeks to provide citizens with cash cards worth about $100 each.'
What about all the non-Mexican Mexican border rejects?
Pretty telling that they're keeping actual Mexican citizens on the border rather than just re-settling them with relatives in Mexico. I thought Mexicans were all about "la familia" and shit.
No, part of the plan (as stated anyway) is that these people will be given transport back home. The tent-cities are supposed to be the initial receiving point and they'll be settled back over time.
Millions of "hard workers" in tent cities just south of the border? Sounds like a business opportunity for Koch Industries.
There’s actually a lot of manufacturing plants owned by US companies just south of the border. They can do the jobs Mexicans won’t do!
Irony alert- had Mexico taken this "Mexico Embraces You" position several years ago, we wouldn't be having this discussion today.
The uncertainty the migrants face is hardly a surprise. They show up at the southern Mexican border with Guatemala, hand over their life savings to a cartel mule to give them safe transit to the US border and dump them in a desert, hoping to make their way to shelter. The fact there is not a red carpet waiting them is certainly consistent with such a process.
The US can solve the issue with designation of which countries pose a legitimate threat to their citizens, where the claim of "political asylum" is reasonable (as opposed to economic asylum), then vet such applicants in their home countries prior to starting their legal journey to the US. Cuba and Venezuela are prime examples. Political oppression, absolutely. Blanket approval, absolutely not. This makes the situation a humanitarian issue, not one of reducing humans to instrumental value of cheap labor for the US.
Most other countries will be found to be economic asylum seekers and those must be considered in relation to the employment situation in the US.
I can understand Cuba, but what political oppression have the Venezuelans ever experienced? They're the moronic peons that literally voted in Hugo Chavez specifically because they supported his policies.
But like the morning after a drunken date, they now regret past decisions. And like all those versed in victimhood, declare themselves rape victims.
"economic asylum"
Economic opportunity is NOT a valid reason for asylum.
https://immigrationforum.org/article/adjudication-by-uscis-asylum-officers-explainer/
"Some migrants seeking a better economic situation may apply out of a good-faith belief that economic hardship is a valid basis upon which to seek asylum, only to find out the law does not support their case. "
""They show up at the southern Mexican border with Guatemala, hand over their life savings to a cartel mule to give them safe transit to the US border and dump them in a desert, hoping to make their way to shelter. ""
Sanctuary cities have done more to promote human trafficking than any porn site.
Funny how dems claim to be anti-trafficking but support policies that allow it to flourish.
>>"Mexico Embraces You"—aims to shelter deported Mexicans
if they were already Mexicans why can't they just go home?
>>District Attorney Larry Krasner, calling Philly a "city of brotherhood, of love, of sisterly affection"
has he ... been to Philadelphia?
They even boo Santa Claus there.
oh ya ... I wore my Cowboys coat to middle school there.
has he ... been to Philadelphia?
You mean that didn't read as "Philly is an incestuous clusterfuck." to you? I honestly can't read it any other way. Maybe from a Pastor talking about The Hereafter or something, but from an attorney about someplace on Earth? Cult, orgy, sex island, rape dungeon...
>>Truly insane, a must-read from Reason's Christian Britschgi:
is there a polymarkets line on the CA Coastal Commission's first rebuild permit issue?
>>... make sure every single thing Americans hear about their federal government, and the state of the country, is bad.
idk about the state of the country Wil Stancil but welcome to the fold on the whole fedgov sucks thing lol where'ya been?
>> At least one patient developed botulism following injections.
developed botulism from counterfeit botox?
>>A Roundup reader sent this my way, disagreeing with my recent characterization of Elon Musk as a free speech supporter:
dude has to wade through contrasting speech laws with one platform. take the W in America and help on the rest. Liz is correct.
>>People who don't homeschool? Their lives suck
high school in the 80s was awful and awesome same-time idk if I would trade it
LOL, all of a sudden True and Honest Conservatives are arguing that you can't run government like a business, after saying for over a generation that government should be run like a business.
@JonahDispatch
: You can’t run a free society like a business, because a free society isn’t a frick’n business.
make sure every single thing Americans hear about their federal government, and the state of the country, is bad.
Oh, that's easy. Just take everything that Team Red did and said over the past four years, and change the names.
Do you ever tire of strawmen and false equivalencies, Jeffy?
A little under 4 percent of Mexico's population is living undocumented in the U.S.
?!!
Holy shit that's going to be a LOT of enrichment Mexico's going to be getting back.
Scenes from New York: "A Manhattan aesthetician was arrested and charged with injecting patients at his medical spa with counterfeit Botox, prosecutors said, sending some to the hospital," reports The New York Times. The U.S. attorney for the Southern District of New York said the aesthetician, who offered injections to reduce wrinkles in women and increase penis size in men "knowingly purchased counterfeit Botox from China, injected it into his clients and represented that the counterfeit Botox that he was peddling was genuine."
If that were legalized and regulated, then we'd know what was in it.
"Mexico Embraces You."
So will Mexico's cartels as they kidnap you for a ransom.
Recent deportees don't seem like a great ransom target.
At least one patient developed botulism following injections. (This—as well as an enduring belief that Mrs. Robinson from The Graduate is the most beautiful woman to ever exist and that aging gracefully is the proper path—is why I don't get Botox!)
Liz, aren't you around 30 years old? Why would you even consider getting Botox, even if there were no risks?
And there's recent medical studies show that Botox and fillers don't actually dissipate, they just migrate to other places on your face. That's why these filler addicts like the Kardashian sluts always end up looking like blowfish.
The NYC scene is wild.
LOL (from Daily Fail):
Transgender inmates panic as Donald Trump's executive order sends them packing to men's prisons
Double LOL:
Hundreds of transgender federal prisoners are living in fear after a 'roundup' that will send them packing to men's lockups following a day-one executive order from President Donald Trump.
Now lawyers are desperately trying to find a way to fight the order, saying the prisoners will have 'a target on their backs' as they move in with hardened male inmates.
Meltzer-Cohen represents Donna Langan, a transgender woman who underwent a sex change in federal prison. She is serving a life sentence for bank robbery as a member of the neo-Nazi Aryan Republican Army.
Meltzer-Cohen said she fears there would be a 'bloodbath' if her client and other trans inmates are forced into male prisons....
Rhonda Fleming, 58, a female inmate who sued to get trans women out of her prison, welcomed the development after losing her case in court last week in Tallahassee, Florida.
She argued that she and other biological women live in constant fear of attack and stress over having to interact with and undress in front of inmates with male genitalia.
Her civil suit stated women shouldn't be forced to share intimate spaces such as bathrooms, showers and dorms with trans women.
Don't worry, "girls," you'll still have plenty of chances to share your girldicks, you just won't be the one forcing the encounter anymore.
Sure, we are (were) locking women in prison with clinically-insane rapists for life as completely normalized and subsidized policy going forward, but the real problem is the system is gonna kill this one guy because a judge in New Jersey thinks *several* doctor's ability to tell the difference between a child who fell out of bed from one who was shaken and/or beaten to death is all junk science.
Also, allegedly-
McArdle: I'm gonna get Trump to free Ross Ulbricht.
Reason readers: [Death threats]
At this point Reason is the chain-smoking, ex-Nazi, stage 4 lung cancer patient of the Libertarian Party. Hard to decide whether smothering it with a pillow or watching it continue to waste away is the more enjoyable path.
Will Stancil
@whstancil
If you're a Democrat, your mission over the next four years can be easily condensed to a single line: make sure every single thing Americans hear about their federal government, and the state of the country, is bad.
LOL, as if this soycake and his team never did that when they weren't in charge. Tell us another big-brained idea there, monkey.
Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht was freed on Tuesday by President Donald Trump,
He actually did it. I'm impressed.
This is not the same Trump as 4 years ago.
The guy knows he's got four years to actually do as much of what he wants to do as he can. Trump Unleashed has no reason to give a fuck about "our precious norms" after 8 years of such narratives being used to ensure the populists in the country have no say in its direction, and to handcuff him from actually doing what he was elected to do.
The big reason the left and The Dispatch cuckservatives are so terrified of that is because it could potentially disrupt the whole post-Cold War western liberal world order the globalist scumbags tried to manage.
This is not the same Trump as 4 years ago.
It is not.
I was thinking about this last night and 8 years ago he arrived in DC not knowing that he couldn't trust anyone. When he realized it, he started firing people and brought in his family because he could trust them. This time - no family. Why? Because he spent the last 4 years finding people that he could trust.
I am actually starting to believe that Trump was this person, someone who keeps his promises, all along. The deep state sabotaged his administration so badly the first time that it was completely paralyzed. I always suspected it, but now it is actually demonstrable.
Pardoned Jan 6 folks not being released from DC jail.
Retro Coast
@RetroCoast
Breaking: reports of PANIC in the D.C. Metropolitan Jail
Prison guards are panicking about the brutal treatment they meted out to #J6 prisoners
They fear they will be held accountable on civil or criminal charges- or even street justice.
Retro Coast
@RetroCoast
·
Jan 21
Reports that DC Mayor Muriel Bowser is refusing to release the #January6th prisoners because she is trying to COERCE them into signing NON DISCLOSURE AGREEMENTS about the treatment they received
Many #J6 detainees were subject to horrific abuse
https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-january-6-supporters-washington-prison-presidential-pardon-2018328
" If there are delays, they will likely be because of administration and processing requirements."
"“Defendants still awaiting trial or sentencing — the vast majority at the jail — have not been pardoned. Trump ordered their cases dismissed. That’s not going to happen at 11 p.m. on a federal holiday.”
Deep state deep stating, in direct contradiction to XO.
"(i) terminate, to the maximum extent allowed by law, all DEI, DEIA, and “environmental justice” offices and positions (including but not limited to “Chief Diversity Officer” positions);
"(A) agency or department DEI, DEIA, or “environmental justice” positions, committees, programs, services, activities, budgets, and expenditures in existence on November 4, 2024, and an assessment of whether these positions, committees, programs, services, activities, budgets, and expenditures have been misleadingly relabeled in an attempt to preserve their pre-November 4, 2024 function;
https://x.com/GunOwners/status/1882162010554802562
Gun Owners of America
@GunOwners
BREAKING
ATF is circumventing President Trump's executive orders to crush racist DEI programs.
To hide its DEI,
@ATFHQ
quietly changed Lisa T. Boykin's job title from "Chief Diversity Officer" to "Senior Executive."
Isn't ATF under the DHS? Gabbard has not had her confirmation hearing yet. Her people need to make a note of who needs to be fired. Hint, the entire HR department.
Wonder if these people are going to be smart enough to go through the ERM folders and clear out the old directories. It's not going to be difficult to figure out which of these PeeOhhSee whores need to get shitcanned back to the private sector.