Why the Race and Gender Politics of White Dudes for Harris Failed
It's still the economy, stupid.

Leading up to the 2024 election, pundits, pollsters, and political operatives discussed the electorate as a bundle of distinct race and gender categories, sometimes with even narrower subcategorizations attached. How would black women vote? What about Latino men? Suburban, college-educated women?
Some of this was useful for analyzing electoral subgroups. But the assumption, especially in left-friendly outlets, was that the best way to win over specific demographic categories was to target them with direct race- and gender-based appeals. Democrats seemed to engage in this practice reflexively, dividing themselves into semi-ironic groups such as White Dudes for Harris.
The Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, a woman with black and Indian ancestry, rarely emphasized her own race or gender. But she didn't distance herself from this approach either. When she seemed to be losing potential votes from black men, her campaign rolled out a series of initiatives billed as targeting black male voters specifically: loans for business creation, a plan to protect cryptocurrency assets, and federal legalization of marijuana. But these were just general initiatives the campaign's messaging arm reframed as providing benefits specifically for black men.
She might have been better off pitching her agenda more broadly. Even as Democrats worked on targeted outreach to narrowly defined groups based on race and gender, the race's top issues for voters were economic. Inflation, particularly the cost of groceries and gas, defined the election.
Harris ended up losing to President Donald Trump. And while Trump himself was often an erratic messenger, going on long, wild tangents during his many sprawling speeches, his campaign apparatus focused relentlessly on inflation and other core economic issues that appealed to everyone. Trump's most notable demographically sliced outreach was to young men, but even there his approach was not to emphasize gender issues specifically; it was to appear on platforms that specifically appealed to young men. He met them on familiar territory with familiar faces.
The subjects of discussion tended to line up with either Trump's usual interests or the host's. On Lex Fridman's podcast they covered UFOs and Jeffrey Epstein. With comedian Theo Von, he talked about drugs. One of Trump's first podcast stops was on a show hosted by the Nelk Boys, a bro prankster duo popular with Ultimate Fighting fans.
Democrats spent much of the campaign attacking Trump as harmful to women and minorities. After all, the argument went, he had been convicted in civil court of sexual abuse, and his Supreme Court nominees were decisive in overturning Roe v. Wade, allowing 17 states so far to ban or effectively ban abortion. He pushed mass deportation, and he famously launched his 2016 presidential run by attacking Mexican immigrants. "When Mexico sends its people," he said, "they're not sending their best….They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists. And some, I assume, are good people." How could such a person possibly appeal to women and minorities?
And yet: Abortion rights did not prove a surefire winner with women voters—millions voted for both abortion rights ballot measures and Trump. Meanwhile, Trump made significant inroads among Hispanic voters, especially men. In the end Trump won the popular vote and made gains in nearly every demographic.
Before the election, Democrat ad makers had evidence that narrowly targeted messages weren't working against Trump: Future Forward, a Democratic Party–aligned super PAC that specializes in data-driven ad targeting, ranked hundreds of ads and found that more general appeals worked best.
The group's overarching idea, The New York Times reported in October, was "to target everyone at once"—reaching "white, Black, Asian and Hispanic voters—as well as the electorate overall" with ads that emphasized Harris' positions on the economy. But the group faced pushback from Democratic officeholders and influencers who wanted more distinctively race-specific messaging.
In the aftermath of Democrats' election loss, however, some may be altering their approach. In November, Punchbowl News reported the Congressional Hispanic Caucus was "rethinking its messaging strategy" to emphasize general economic appeals. As Rep. Juan Vargas (D–Calif.) told Punchbowl, "Hispanic families, in particular, are saying everything is really expensive. They felt like we weren't paying attention.….What we don't handle well is the cost of living, and that really hurt us."
In 1992, cantankerous Democratic campaign guru James Carville famously declared, "It's the economy, stupid." That became an unofficial slogan for Democratic nominee Bill Clinton's successful presidential campaign, which focused heavily on broad-based, unifying economic concerns while downplaying race-and gender-specific differences. Three decades later, Trump's win suggests that's still true.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "It's Still the Economy, Stupid."
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So it turns out progressive racism and sexism does not have wide appeal, Democrats confused at the failure of their theory.
I don't know how they thought their pandering didn't sound dumb and condescending.
Harris showed herself to be an inauthentic and dumb candidate who ran a bad campaign where she basically said nothing but word salad and hid from actual exposure. When people did see her, she came off as cringe and unlikeable. The media tried to carry her water on policy by mostly putting out contrasting plans from unnamed staffers and targeting specific groups. The Harris campaign was probably the most inept campaign ever despite Biden hiding in his basement in 2020.
In contrast, Trump was an ok candidate who ran on a decent record and had a campaign full of iconic moments. He worked his ass off to be around as many voters as possible and speak to everyone.
It's disappointing that the election was remotely close. Democrats are the party of horrible policy and people.
Great comment, spot on!
There is a lot of truth to your comments.
They had the same core belief they had in 2016 and 2020. That Trump was unelectable and so long as they had a name on the ballot they couldn't lose.
And unfortunately for Democrats, those millions of magic 2020 voters disappeared.
Disappeared "with" Covid.
Why do you hate dead voters?
What makes you think that they were dead? In 2020 I moved. When I renewed my driver's license I was asked if I wanted to change my Voter Registration, so I did. I got six mail in ballots. Three for each address. Funny thing was that the name on the ballot wasn't how I signed my name when I registered. My registered name was James LeRoy Cxxxxxx. The ballots were James L., JL, and James LR. for each address. When mail in ballots were received the Privacy Envelope which was required by Law to stay with the ballot was destroyed at the order of the Governor and the Secretary of State. This destroyed any chain of custody of the ballot. When mail in ballots were counted, they used the total of ballots sent out, not the total of registered voters, nullifying any possibility of a recount. That's where many of those "disappeared" votes came from.
But….. but……. Most secure election EVER!!!!
Good synopsis MT; I believe there are two factors with Democrats, one being that they truly believe what they are pandering and secondly a very broad and deep misunderstanding of the common electorate [which they generally regard as hoi polloi]. When you and all those who surround you live in a bubble, it's very challenging to see anything outside of it; example, how could any woman/ POC/ LGBT/ LatinX* person possibly vote for Trump? Don't they know that we're on their side of all the "victims?"
*perfect example of what I am talking about; how many Latino persons actually use this term to describe themselves? Is it even 10%...5%?
I agree that many Democrats live in self-proclaimed superiority bubbles. But at least some are conscious enough, in a Machiavellian way, and know what they try to do defies both basic morality and American fundamentals. Some of those are Marxists (or Marxist-adjacent). Some are WEF-style one-world globalists, i.e. fascists. And some are grifters, grabbing as much money and power as they can.
True enough; they're certainly are the nefarious WIIFM types as well as the useful idiots.
"Some of those are Marxists (or Marxist-adjacent). Some are WEF-style one-world globalists, i.e. fascists. And some are grifters, grabbing as much money and power as they can."
Unfortunately, that describes the entirety of the democrat party after you remove the profoundly ignorant.
It didn't help at all that she's a babbling liquored-up fool who can't go a single day without busting open a giant box of wine as soon as the clock strikes noon.
Also, even her staffers hate her freaking guts, because despite her affected happy-go-lucky public persona, in reality she's a cunt who is constantly screaming at people, berating them, and blaming everyone except herself whenever the slightest thing goes wrong, which is quite often.
In any case, even her supporters don't really take her that seriously. Two years from now 90% of America won't even remember who the hell she is.
Well, you like her more than I do. But we can part as friends.
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" in reality she's a cunt who is constantly screaming at people, berating them, and blaming everyone except herself whenever the slightest thing goes wrong, which is quite often."
You could be describing her predecessor [HRC] to a T.
Exactly.
On 1/3/25, Senate swearing in - she couldn't remember the pledge of allegiance. First, you learn that in grade school. Second, if you knew you have to recite it, wouldn't you prepare?
"I don't know how they thought their pandering didn't sound dumb and condescending."
Unfortunately, pandering, even when dumb and condescending, works.
And that opens discussion of this democracy thing. Humans are fundamentally irrational, and susceptible to emotional manipulation, including through pandering, as both parties proved. IMO the recent attempts by Democrats to control speech are motivated by even more insidious attempts to control thought. So how can anyone claim that collecting more votes from more people will actually give us "better" government, at least where government plays a comprehensive and intrusive role in directing society?
Kamala did not run a campaign.
She ran a money laundering scheme.
Oprah approves.
^^
"Democrats are the party of horrible policy and people."
Pretty much sums it up!
“Horrible policy and people” does not summarize enemies of the constitution.
The shit that went down in Peru 2022 is exactly what the DNC is. Wiki conveniently leaves out that not only did Castillo dissolve the senate, additionally, he rejected and was on course to rewrite the constitution. The DNC U.S. paper of record, Jacobin (global communism/fascism) supports Castillo.
Well, pandering and condescending seemed to work for years for US senator Al d'Amato from NY. His p.r. included posturing against credit surcharges for gasoline purchases while explicitly saying a discount for paying cash was fine.
AND people are not influenced by beta males and soy boys. Those are not leaders - whether opinion leaders or 'leaders of men'... and certainly the latter is validated by the election results.
Blowing out over a billion dollars and paying Opra, Al Charlatan and other celebrities to attempt to sway voters didn't help either.
her campaign is millions in debt.
It also didn’t help that the ads featured a bunch of scorchingly gay actors.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hk4ueY9wVtA
This is more like an SNL parody.
I know, right? I thought it was a Babylon Bee bit at first.
I don't know that confused is the right word; it implies a level of uncertainty that's lacking among ideologues. They still seem to be fairly certain that the problem is the voters are racist and that the country somehow just "won't accept a woman as leader".
I don't think that many of them have even come to terms with the possibility that the large number of people who actively disliked HRC before she announced her primary run could have possibly factored into the 2016 race. Many still believe not only that Putin altered the election outcome and that there's actually a "pee tape" involving trump and russian prostitutes somewhere in a FSB archive somewhere.
There are probably at least 15000 people in Santa Monica and Silver Lake/Los Feliz/Atwater Village whose children never got measels vaccination because they followed RFK's "vaccine hesitance" (which got spun into full anti-vax dogma by "experts" such as Jenny McCarthy) and filed a "personal belief" exemption to evade the mandates from the schools in those areas (which at one point in the 2000s had lover vaccination rates than South Sudan). Maybe 100 of them have any hesitation to parrot the new narriative that such ideas make the man some kind of clear and present danger to the Country and to human civilization overall.
It didn't help that the 'white dudes ' were a bunch of pussy beta males. And of course there was her changing accents depending on the group she was speaking to.
Some politicians obviously don't get how offensive accent-mocking can be, especially to Southerners (of both races).
of both races
Country *and* Western!
You got both?
Rawhide!
I was thinking Hillbilly and Redneck?
Snake Handlers and Baptists?
And of course there was her changing accents depending on the group she was speaking to.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fFhUNERyRsg
“They not like us” LOL
To be fair, we don't like them.
That's what she meant, right?
It didn't help that the 'white dudes ' were a bunch of pussy beta males.
Who do you think her target males were?
No male with an iota of testosterone voted for her.
Vegans, Screenwriters, MSNBC/CNN/NPR airstaff, anyone involved in competitive "bearding", "men" who have given birth, donated their eggs or been hired as a surrogate.
Also, anyone who takes one of their NPR tote bags to buy their $17 smoothie and non-GMO kale chips at Erewohn while bitching about "greedflation".
Those who want the government to zero out the $250k in student loads that they racked up getting a MA in Gender Studies or Creative Writing from a small private college somewhere in New England.
People in the bubble don't know they're in the bubble. They think they're The People.
[Didn't see your post before I posted mine above]; indeed.
No, they think they are the elite ruling class, who deserve to control The People.
As John Kennedy recently remarked, "Hollywood stars have an unwarranted sense of moral and intellectual superiority".
Who will advocate for people born intersex? I witnessed infants born with ambiguous genitals, undifferentiated genitals and description "sex unknown". They grow up with genital variations that are not apparent under clothing. Because of hormonal imbalances many appear to be effeminate boys or masculine girls. Because of public prejudice they have to keep a low profile. They are born that way but are often bullied by gender nazi peers. Like transgender children and teens, many intersex kids have active suicide ideation.
If you are generally concerned about such persons, I suggest you directly engage in advocacy for them instead of using them as ploys. It is not a political problem.
" using them as ploys. It is not a political problem."
If anything, it's a political solution. I remind you that the candidate who constantly raised the gender issue and its threat to the nation and the family won the election. These identity politic issues are a great way to divide the populace without threatening the power of the oligarchy.
Sure. But the tiny percent of humans born with actual biological sex ambiguity is nowhere near the social fad-induced political sex ambiguity.
And if you really want the best for those people, do you want to make them the poster child for your political crusade?
And stuff your "gender nazi" up your ass.
Their doctors and their parents generally advocate for them quite well.
You say that you have "witnessed infants" (plural). I seriously doubt that claim given the phenomenally low rate of that particular genetic disorder. Even most obstetrics staff are unlikely to see more than one over an entire career.
You say that you have "witnessed infants" (plural). I seriously doubt that claim given the phenomenally low rate of that particular genetic disorder.
Exactly, another comment based on their imaginary world. But even if it were true does anyone believe making intersex children a political bludgeon is in their interest? How stupid do you have to be to attack others people with them so those people have to defend themselves (and their own children).
Besides the debate isn't even about truly intersex children, this is another bait and switch by the far left. The debate is about people who are one sex but want to be another.
Dunno. Who will advocate for bullshitters like you?
Unfortunately sympathy for the anatomically challenged is now buried under the pile of bogus complaints on behalf of those who need to identify as of the "wrong" "gender".
That is true; now that it's a fad, hermaphrodites must be considered gifted to have been physically endowed with a choice [as opposed to having a metaphorical uterus].
Who will advocate for people born intersex?
No one, because the extremely tiny margin of people born like this does not mean that the entire planet needs to bend to the demands of the queer cult of mentally ill marxist neurotics.
They are born that way but are often bullied by gender nazi peers.
Yes, to marxists, anyone who doesn't go along with their dumb political theology is a "nazi."
Like transgender children and teens, many intersex kids have active suicide ideation.
So do a lot of teens that haven't been brainwashed by the queer cult into thinking something's wrong with them for going through the normal process of human biological development.
The WPATH files, Cass Review, and Finland study have already debunked everything about your cult that you're pushing. Fuck off, groomer.
I think "groomer" was being ironic to make the point a few of us completed explicitly.
Yes, people shouldn't be assholes to people born with developmental problems and abnormalities. But if parts of your body don't function properly, then you will have a different life than other people. Life's rough like that sometimes.
Since you are so knowledgeable - have you looked at the suicide rate of those who have transitioned? No? go look.
You can't drink, marry, buy a gun, drive till 16 and above yet you can say you want a sex change at 10? Sure. You do know they are irreversible right? The drugs do permanent damage .
You don't care. You don't. It just makes you a more interesting parent. It's all about you not about the children.
I don't care what you want to do to yourself as an adult. I'm sure you are you some alphabet letter right now. Good for you. Leave the children alone.
You "witnessed"? If you're a medical professional, you should already be aware of just how rare such events are. Certainly too rare to justify destroying women's sports or getting raped in the girls bathroom at middle school.
To cynical retiree,
I am an anesthesiologist with over 30 years experience.
I have administered epidurals, and given anesthesia for C-sections and seen literally thousands of births.
During my entire 30 year career, including 5 years at a high risk OB hospital, I haven’t seen one intersex baby.
While these people obviously exist, they are vanishing small in number.
'But the assumption, especially in left-friendly outlets, was that the best way to win over specific demographic categories was to target them with direct race- and gender-based appeals. Democrats seemed to engage in this practice reflexively, dividing themselves into semi-ironic groups such as White Dudes for Harris.'
So, racism?
BTW (and more seriously), I do know that some progressives claim a moral distinction between "good racism" and "bad racism". But I think they are full of shit.
'...some progressives claim a moral distinction between "good racism" and "bad racism". But I think they are full of shit.'
Well, they're progressives. So yes, they are full of shit.
I thought it was impossible for any racism to exist that wasn’t bad because it’s Power Plus Prejudice. Meaning only certain groups can be racist, and those are the bad ones.
The Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, a woman with black and Indian ancestry, rarely emphasized her own race or gender.
Blacks that would have voted for her can tell she wasn't one of them.
They knew that, the campaign knew that, and the campaign knew that the blacks knew that.
Unfortunately, the only lesson the DNC will learn from this is that they’ll need a blacker candidate for their fucking race politics to win an election.
The democrats are destroying themselves. Their party has no right to exist. It spreads Marxism, bought, and os a sponsor of domestic terrorism.
Her "black history" is of her ancestors owning slaves.
Petey leaves out that the Democrat strategy is not just promising things to specific demographics but requires ginning up hatred for others; generally straight people, whites and men within America. Trump, on the other hand draws distinctions between Americans and foreign nationals which Peter apparently finds abhorrent that the US President should prioritize US citizens over the rest of the world.
But, like, putting citizens above foreigners is, like fascism, or something, right?
American's are lazy and must be saved by hard working illegal immigrants that all angels?
Maybe the hyperbole and lies about Trump became too obvious. The political prosecutions were blatant and most people recognized it. Creating a law specifically so E Jean Carroll could sue Trump was nakedly partisan and hateful.
When you claim he’s a threat to Democracy, that he’s going to be the next Hitler, that elections in the United States will end if he wins, you can’t suddenly condemn political violence when he gets shot. You don’t wish Literal Hitler a speedy recovery. The mask slipped off.
This is why MSNBC and CNN have had such massive ratings dives since the election. They couldn’t keep up the facade any longer. You can’t suddenly pivot from telling people the end of the world is at hand to treating Trump like a normal political opponent you dislike. If they were being honest they would have had to encourage the revolution on television. They would have asked people to martyr themselves to kill the tyrant to save the country. They would have told people to get out of America as soon as they can. You can’t dial the panic up to 11 just for an election only to behave normally when it goes against you. It’s shows that you were lying to and manipulating your audience, or else pandering to them. Either way you clearly never believed what you were saying.
For better or worse, Trump comes off as authentic. He clearly says what he’s thinking, even if he really should think a bit more before he speaks. People are turned off by inauthentic people. And the Kamala campaign and all these manufactured fans, like “White Dudes For Harris,” just broadcast the inauthenticity.
As my handle suggests, I think you can actually do most of those things to humans. And the humans will mostly respond as you wish. As long as partisan ideology is more important than objectivity, most people will easily accept obvious contradictions and even overt lies from their preferred leaders and sources.
Yes, revelatory events over the past few years do matter. But I think the impact is more about some people, even Democrats, waking (unwoking?) up to reality. The ones still drinking the blue koolaid have no problem supporting whatever the progressive media says.
Creating a law specifically so E Jean Carroll could sue Trump was nakedly partisan and hateful.
LOL, I was watching the opening of Coogan's Bluff yesterday and it had a bit with this crazy old bint that had filed multiple rape and attempted rape claims with the police. I'm sure that's where Carroll got the idea by claiming everyone from Donald Trump to the taxi driver raped her.
This is right. Once you have seen, or worse been a target of, the witchhunt you're not as likely to accept accusations without evidence in the future. Remember the utility truck worker cracking his knuckles out his truck window who some leftist doxxed and claimed was a white supremacist? Non-political people are repelled by that shit. Normal people may give it a pass when it's targeted at lawyers and college professors as a natural part of that environment. But when it seems out into the regular work world it will generate a backlash, and since that's exactly what the extremists want it's going to continue.
I agree with all of that. And so does almost everyone else. That Pete/Reason/MSM can't retain the lessons "learned" from the November 5 drubbing is either willful ignorance or abject stupidity. Or both. No wonder old media is dying.
I have a Gen Z daughter. She summed this up perfectly - Cringe.
"After all, the argument went, he had been convicted in civil court of sexual abuse"
There is no suck thing as "conviction" in civil court. This nonsense is why this didn't work.
In 1992, cantankerous Democratic campaign guru James Carville
famously declared, "It's the economy, stupid."
And he said it again on TV yesterday, lamenting something along the lines of "How could we (Democrats) have been so stupid as to lose sight of that simple fact..." Sorry, I just had Fox Business news on in the background yesterday so I don't have the exact words...might have been on CNN instead, not sure since I switch back and forth.
Democratic political consultant and advisor James Carville called on his party to "tone" down the use of "jargonistic language" with voters, calling it ineffective.
"Let’s just be authentic and to the point," Carville told White House press secretary turned MSNBC host Jen Psaki in an interview Sunday night, when asked about sophisticated political-style language from Washington, D.C.
"So I think people like you and I can bring this home by example and don’t use that idiotic NPR jargon when you are talking to voters," he said.
Can the Democrats fake authenticity?
Inauthentically.
Democrats fake authenticity???
Nope. They're phony, phony phony. All the way down. Thankfully most people are finally beginning to see it, and it's about fucking time.
When the sole evidence in a case is the testimony of someone who has a cat named "Vagina T. Fireball," there should be no pride in actually "winning" that case. Because you couldn't possibly win in an honest court.
Wow. I learned something today. Thank you?
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Ya think maybe some people were pro-abortion but thought Roe v. Wade was a piece of shit as a matter of law? And/or that Hispanics are fine but criminals are to be fined?
From 2020-2022, they observed Democrats abandon "My Body, My Choice".
That was (D)ifferent. And also personal, as in all the panicked liberals who worried about impacts on their own health (but could not project that concern to a clump of cells).
Roe v. Wade was a piece of shit as a matter of law?
Piece of shit and/or *astoundingly* anachronistic. Like the ESRB ratings for Doom, Mortal Kombat, and Night Trap in the post-GTA era.
As I continue to point out with ENB, she talks and even rather overtly defends women's ability to access back-alley, coat hanger abortions despite the fact that they were dangerous then and, even with bans, there is a panoply of safer/better alternatives that didn't exist way back when.
Nope, only Suderman and Reason are capable of perfect grace. The rest of us just push buttons for food pellets.
Perhaps spending years blaming all societal ills on white dudes may have made White Dudes for Harris less successful?
"Why the Race and Gender Politics of White Dudes for Harris Failed"
Perhaps Trump was a far, far better option for POTUS? Those of us not addled by TDS can consider that possibility.
"Hispanic families, in particular, are saying everything is really expensive. They felt like we weren't paying attention.….What we don't handle well is the cost of living, and that really hurt us."
I'm not clear on how Harris focusing on her economic positions was supposed to improve things. "Yep I'll give you more of that" doesn't seem to fit the goals.
Sometimes I think you guys don't get that all their demagoguery is to distract from their economic message which even they seem to understand is a electoral albatross. If even Dems understand this why don't libertarians?
Harris on The View:
"If anything, would you have done something differently than President Biden during the past four years?"
Harris: "There is not a thing that comes to mind."
That one comment probably did more to tank here than just about anything else.
Not ordering the OSHA vaccine mandate was the lowest hanging fruit.
I would've remembered that Jackie Walorski died in a car accident.
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You don't see it? It's not, "I'll give you exactly more of that." Rather, it's, "Yes, I know inflation' bad. So this time we'll make sure you [wink] get the money first, before the prices go up. Because you're going to need it."
The Democratic nominee, Kamala Harris, a woman with black and Indian ancestry, rarely emphasized her own race or gender
WTF, it was the only thing her campaign had to emphasize aside from “Orangemanbad” and whatever the fuck “Joyfull” was supposed to be.
You forgot "brat".
I suppose her being "brat" was the answer to Mondale's "Where's the beef?"
Brats are pork.
The takeaway here is that everyone - including the military and the politicians - is always fighting the last war. When the next election comes along, they will have learned nothing whatever. What's even more important, though, is that they should be fighting their last failure during real life between elections and campaigns. The Republicans and the Democrats should have learned that the ECONOMY is what they should be working on every waking moment in Congress and the state legislatures and the White House and every Governor's mansion in America. But - alas - they won't be. The Democrats will continue to push their race and gender agenda and the Republicans will continue caving in on socialism and deficit spending, while the never-ending war on everything rages on around the globe.
"Democrats should have learned that the ECONOMY is what they should be working on every waking moment in Congress and the state legislatures and the White House and every Governor's mansion in America."
Goddam, so true.
Without economy-killers like deficit spending, money printing, and onerous taxation, there would be no Democrat party. All they can run on is promising to pay Paul with Peter's cash.
Your message is irrelevant if you don't deliver it in venues to which the targeted groups are listening. Young white male voters (and many other demographics) don't tune into the sorts of shows on which Harris usually appeared, and her refusal to appear on the Joe Rogan show is emblematic of her refusal to meet her target audience on their own turf.
Why would she have done anything like that? The "White Dudes for Harris" thing was badly disguised astroturf promoted by a bunch of Hollywood tard actors, politicians like Jumbo Butt Prtizker, and various millionaire donors and journoscum. And after a couple of generations of complaining and slagging white males, any effort to actually try and "meet her target audience" wouldn't have had any credibility, anyway.
The thing with Rogan was emblematic of Harris's passive-aggressive, self-indulgent, control freak nature. Her campaign spent six figures crafting a set for the Call Her Daddy podcast, even though the podcaster had a studio already. They probably did the same thing for the Club Shay Shay podcast, because those are done in Sharpe's house in L.A., and they were clearly not broadcasting from there when the interview was posted on YouTube. She turned down Rogan because he wouldn't budge from doing the show at his studio in Austin. Meanwhile, both Trump and Vance readily went there and ended up talking for 3 hours each.
Harris' campaign also balked at Joe's refusal to change his format, typically a couple of hours of continuous one-on-one dialog, with no (obvious) boundaries.
I suspect their message was irrelevant even if it had been delivered where the targeted groups are listening. "Marketing" is one of the least investigated scams in human history. An entire expensive cult has developed around the concept of advertising with well-financed corporations having swallowed the necessity of advertising hook, line and sinker. I have no doubt that if I happen across some message inadvertently that just happens to announce the availability of something I might actually want that I had previously been unaware of, that I might look into it and decide to buy it. I doubt that the rest of America varies from my modus operandi by more than a few percent, bringing into question whether advertising costs more or less than the profit it might generate - including victories for politicians in elections.
"bringing into question whether advertising costs more or less than the profit it might generate "
Planned obsolescence also plays a big role in convincing Americans to spend money buying things they would otherwise not. For example. Americans replace their smart phones a full year sooner than the world wide average. Same phones, but Americans seem particularly susceptible to shrewd marketing.
https://www.sellcell.com/blog/how-often-do-people-upgrade-their-phone-2023-statistics/
Or: Americans have more disposable income on the average than the rest of the world.
And advertising tells them how to dispose of it. It's not rocket science. It's marketing.
"Why the Race and Gender Politics of White Dudes for Harris Failed."
It looks like a lot of white dudes got tired of being blamed for other peoples' lives.
he had been convicted in civil court of sexual abuse
good lord you never cease to me amaze me. This is an outright falsehood.
white guys for harris failed primarily because it was manufactured disingenuous bullshit created by millennial women in the campaign and everyone could see it clearly, especially the white guys it was targeting.
It did nothing to convince anyone that Harris was a good candidate. instead it merely spread that message that "hey, you're a white guy you should vote for harris cause we are too!"
Absolute idiocy. This project should be studied for years to come by all potential campaign managers. It was a flop of epic proportions.
" It was a flop of epic proportions."
You're assuming it was meant to be a winner. I'm not convinced.
And yet: Abortion rights did not prove a surefire winner with women voters—millions voted for both abortion rights ballot measures and Trump.
Maybe these women are smarter than you think because they understand that abortion is not a federal issue anymore.
There is literally no difference between Trump and Kamala on abortion when it comes to federal outcomes that were possible with either of them.
Maybe these women are smarter than you think because they understand that abortion is not a federal issue anymore.
Nor, potentially switching the root cause for the proximate cause, the potentially, literally, life-ending and/or matriarchy-impoverishing/patriarchy-empowering event it used to be. If your baby-daddy refused paternity and you were broke, a coat hanger with the associated risk of death might be the only option (especially as a would-be teen mom). Since that time, however, paternity testing has become pretty definitive, paternity suits *backed by federal law* are a thing, and, even with bans, travelling the next state over to have plan B pills thrown at you isn't that difficult.
"Since that time, however, paternity testing has become pretty definitive, paternity suits *backed by federal law* are a thing, "
A 15 year old girl launching a paternity suit against a 16 year old boy? I don't think you've thought this through.
"And yet: Abortion rights did not prove a surefire winner with women voters—millions voted for both abortion rights ballot measures and Trump."
Maybe a lot of women are as (or more) concerned about not being raped in the first place compared to how easily they can get an abortion if they are. You know, their right to carry a firearm to protect themselves, prosecutors who don't put criminals back on the streets, police who can patrol the streets and arrest said criminals when they catch them without being condemned for it. Just throwing that out there.
If a sizable percentage of women seriously worry about forced rape-baby motherhood, they (and we) have other significant problems.
"Maybe a lot of women are as (or more) concerned about not being raped in the first place "
Your argument might have legs if you could show some evidence. Women and men have other ways of protecting themselves from rape, whether it's chemical sprays, knives, keys, combs, or any familiarity with any of the martial arts.
"police who can patrol the streets and arrest said criminals when they catch them without being condemned for it."
Police are not condemned for arresting criminals. They are paid generous salaries from the tax payers for doing precisely that. They sometimes are awarded medals in public ceremonies. If you think this is condemnation, you need to think again.
Your argument might have legs if you could show some evidence. Women and men have other ways of protecting themselves from rape, whether it's chemical sprays, knives, keys, combs, orany familiarity with any of the martial arts.
Lol. You've been watching too much Lioness. This is a fantasy.
I've never seen any Lioness. Is it good?
He's merely giving you a possible excuse for being full of shit.
"Leading up to the 2024 election, pundits, pollsters, and political operatives discussed the electorate as a bundle of distinct race and gender categories, sometimes with even narrower subcategorizations attached."
This leads me to suspect that the Democrats either didn't want to win, or that they thought the price of victory would be too high for them.
They campaigned on a pro genocide platform, certain to alienate their most committed base, and even made appearances with members of the Cheney clan.
And the issue that they studiously ignored, reforming health care/health insurance, was the only issue that would electrify the electorate, while clearly separating from Trump. The Democrat strategists, who are well able to poll and gauge public sentiment, must have been aware of the feelings that only came to the surface later, after the election, with the assassination of the health insurance CEO. Reform would alienate the health lobby, just as an anti-genocide stance would alienate the Israel lobby, and result in drying up of huge sources of money and influence. The price, to repeat, of victory would be too high.
"...This leads me to suspect that the Democrats either didn't want to win, or that they thought the price of victory would be too high for them..."
trueman, assuming the Ds are capable of 4D chess:
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"Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."
THis is like the gays attacking the trans folks because they are not letting gays express their gayness. Race has always been legally defined. looks like gender is now too. So maybe many (most?) just hate such a primal matter being handled by some dude in DC that could give a sht
It's probably good that the technique of targeting narrow demographic groups has been seen as not something that works. But the idea that "the economy" is what a President should be chosen on makes no real sense, because the President DOESN'T CONTROL THE ECONOMY. Lots of factors influence economic conditions, and most are not under the President's control. The President does appoint people to the Federal Reserve, and the Fed does have a significant impact on the economy, but it's often not appointees of the current President who make those decisions. That's by design. So vote for President, or for any office, based on what the person you're voting for can actually do using the actual powers of the office he or she will hold.
Have you watched the White Dudes for Kamala ad on youtube? They don't know what a dude is. They are actors. Not even good actors.
More to the point that Suderman misses for 4 years (Plus) you have been telling men, all men, they are the root of evil, everything is their fault, they don't count. Why would they vote for your team?
I guess he missed Suderman lecturing black man about not voting for a woman instead of who they think is best for the job.
Amen. Count the number of times you see the words women or woman vs. men or man in the Democrat platform. If you build your platform on a list of interest group specific grievances, you're going to lose the big center of the nation when the election comes.
Trump should have used his free NBC time to run that ad during football.
Is this a fool or not
Kamala Harris mocked for Nasa video with paid child actors
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U5PABXXdDwA
I see what Joanna Andreasson did there.
Trump didn't say..."They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. They're rapists."
He said..."They're bringing drugs. They're bringing crime. Their rapists."
The words sound the same but have very different connotations.
None of this is particularly surprising. The Democrat party elites have always portrayed us as a bunch of special interest groups, each with some grievance or victimization specific to our race, gender, economic status, etc. To win elections the Democrat Party needs to focus on moving more to the center of thought in the country instead of acting as a collection of special interests with grievances and narrowly focused objectives.
There is no Democrat Party in the US.
That would require a rightward shift of the overton window... and I dont think MSM is quite there yet.
"It's still the economy"
Not true. If it were the economy, Harris would have won in a landslide. The last time that an incumbent party lost in this strong an economy was 1968.
Those of us who know what fools Harris and Biden are with money ---yes, it was the Economy
I'm pretty sure she did try to leverage her black heritage quite a bit. Adopting fake accents to pander to crowds, claims about what celebrating Kwanza meant to her as a child, etc.
I mean, yeah, she was like Colin Kapernick , but she definitely tried to make a big deal out of it.
Wall Street Journal token lefty regular opinionist Galston is still (Jan 8) talking about campaigning issues, only briefly noting the importance of the actual economy to most people, and fails to admit that the woke crap has forced many moderates to shift to the right. His headline is that "Harris Didn't Lose So Much as Trump Won". No, Mr. Galston, Harris LOST, bigtime.
The left doesn't get it, and hopefully they will continue that trend and be left further and further in the rearview mirror.
Notice how emasculated white males refer to themselves as "dudes" and not men? Any male who leans left has lost their man card and should submit to physical castration.
The Democrats ignored the economy and instead chose to use identity politics as their mainstay. It didn't work, in fact it backfired and as of yet they continue to refuse the fact that most Americans refuse to go along with LGBTQXYZ /men can become women rubbish and the rest of the mental garbage cooked up by liberals.
Trump may not be able to pull America out of the economic disaster caused by the Biden administration. After all, his people are doing everything they can to burn down America.