Wicked and the Importance of the Public Domain
Movies like Wicked draw on classic works no longer under copyright protection.

Every January 1, numerous creative works enter the public domain, meaning their copyrights have expired and they can be freely shared, sold, or adapted. Last year Mickey and Minnie Mouse—or at least their original incarnations—entered the public domain, and starting today such classic works as Ernest Hemingway's novel A Farewell to Arms, Alfred Hitchcock's film Blackmail, and the cartoon characters Popeye and Tintin also become free for use.
But at the moment there is perhaps no better testament to the importance of the public domain than Wicked.
Though it did not open in wide release until November 22, the movie musical was the year's third highest grossing film at the domestic box office, behind only a Pixar sequel and a Marvel superhero film. It has also received acclaim from both critics and audiences alike.
The film depicts an alternative backstory for the Good Witch of the North (Ariana Grande) and the Wicked Witch of the West (Cynthia Erivo), famously of The Wizard of Oz. It is an adaptation of the hugely popular Broadway musical of the same name, which was adapted from Gregory Maguire's 1995 novel Wicked: The Life and Times of the Wicked Witch of the West, which itself reimagines L. Frank Baum's Oz books, which began with the 1900 novel The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. Phew!
Baum's book has been adapted many times, most famously with MGM's 1939 film The Wizard of Oz, presented partly in black-and-white and partly in color. "From a production standpoint, it is something to marvel at, for the settings are not only exceedingly lavish, but also unusually imaginative; and the technicolor photography adds to their beauty," said a contemporaneous review in the trade journal Harrison's Reports. "Pictures of this caliber bring credit to the industry."
According to the Library of Congress, the 1939 Wizard of Oz "has been seen by more viewers than any other movie." But even though Oz is one of the most famous creative works of all time, Maguire needed nobody's permission to adapt its characters and settings for his book.
The Copyright Act of 1790, the first U.S. law of its kind, allowed authors to protect their creative works for 14 years; if they were still alive, they could then renew it for another 14 years. After that, the work would fall into the public domain and could be used freely without compensation.
Decades later, the Copyright Act of 1831 doubled the initial term to 28 years and allowed an author's spouse or children to request the extension in the event the author had died. This was the law in effect in 1900, when Baum published The Wonderful Wizard of Oz. (A later law also retroactively extended the second term to 28 years, for a maximum of 56.) Baum's widow renewed the copyright in 1928, and the book—including all its characters and settings—entered the public domain in 1956. Maguire, and anyone else, was free to draw from that novel for their own original works.
The most prominent reimagining after then and before Wicked was probably The Wiz, which told the same story as The Wizard of Oz with an all-black cast and a soundtrack featuring gospel, funk, and soul music. The Wiz premiered on Broadway in 1975 and won seven Tony Awards, including Best Musical, Best Featured Actor, Best Featured Actress, and Best Original Score. It was later adapted into a 1978 film with Diana Ross and Michael Jackson.
But The Wiz intentionally drew from Baum's novel, not the 1939 film—which remained under copyright and would require paying MGM for the privilege. In Baum's book, for example, Dorothy uses magical silver shoes to get home to Kansas; in the 1939 film, MGM changed the shoes to the iconic ruby slippers, to show off the Technicolor photography. The Wiz returned Dorothy's shoes to their original silver, as did Wicked, since red shoes are included in MGM's copyright. (There are elements of Wicked that seem to pay homage to the 1939 movie, but they at least arguably fall within the bounds of fair use.)
Congress has changed copyright law numerous times over the years—in each case, extending the amount of time something is protected. The most recent change came from the Sonny Bono Copyright Term Extension Act of 1998, which established that all works published since 1978 are under copyright protection until 70 years after the author's death; works created between 1924 and 1978 are protected for 95 years—including The Wizard of Oz, which is covered until 2035.
If the current law had been in effect when Baum released his first Oz novel, it would not have entered the public domain until 1990. This predates Maguire's book, but numerous other works, such as The Wiz, would not have existed unless the creators could afford the rights. In a recent interview, Maguire mentioned The Wiz as a progenitor to Wicked, so it's entirely possible that Maguire's work would not exist without such earlier adaptations.
American copyright law stems from Article I, Section 8 of the U.S. Constitution, which allows the government "to promote the Progress of Science and useful Arts, by securing for limited Times to Authors and Inventors the exclusive Right to their respective Writings and Discoveries." Over time, Congress has stretched the term limited nearly beyond recognition. L. Frank Baum clearly found a 42-year copyright term acceptable when he published The Wonderful Wizard of Oz—not to mention the sequels and Oz-themed films and comics he wrote in his lifetime. The original novel alone sold more than three million copies before entering the public domain; to make the 1939 film, producer Samuel Goldwyn paid $40,000 (more than $910,000 in current dollars) for the rights to the novel.
Two of composer George Gershwin's works also enter the public domain today: the composition An American in Paris and a 1924 recording of Rhapsody in Blue. Gershwin died in 1937, while his brother—lyricist Ira Gershwin, who helped write the song "Over the Rainbow" for The Wizard of Oz—died in 1983. Neither man had children, but their nieces and nephews took over the family catalogue. These heirs and their children now routinely adapt and rerelease their forebears' songs in new musicals (covered by new copyrights) and make millions of dollars in the process, despite having no direct connection to the original works. In 2009, more than 70 years after the Gershwins' final joint composition, the catalogue generated $8 million in annual royalties.
It's hard to imagine that George and Ira Gershwin's interests are best served by keeping their works under lock and key for decades, prevented from being adapted or repurposed without paying their distant relatives for permission. Similarly, adaptations such as The Wiz and Wicked prove the public domain's importance for fostering creativity, allowing new works based on established properties to emerge, to find success, and to inspire yet more works in the future.
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Well, absent a new years roundup, we'll put this here:
"Chief Justice John Roberts sounds alarm over potential defiance of court rulings"
[...]
"On the eve of a new year and a second Trump presidency, Chief Justice John Roberts issued a stark warning to the incoming administration, members of Congress and the public about threats to the nation's independent judicial system and the rule of law.
"Within the past few years, elected officials from across the political spectrum have raised the specter of open disregard for federal court rulings. These dangerous suggestions, however sporadic, must be soundly rejected," Roberts wrote in his annual year-end report on the federal judiciary..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/chief-justice-john-roberts-sounds-alarm-over-potential-defiance-of-court-rulings/ar-AA1wMvtd?ocid=msedgntp&pc=U531&cvid=6139c43f1e7d4a16e08bc35d8088ff68&ei=14
Regardless of the 'both sides' sugar coating, I think leakin' Joes continued attempts to buy votes with school debt transference, plus his (and Newsom's) continued 'we can outlaw guns this way' bullshit may be getting to Roberts.
Roberts sure hasn't done himself or the courts any favors in his political manipulations. A little backbone earlier would have saved him a lot of grief now. I doubt whether he'll grow enough backbone to matter before he dies.
Not to criticize the take exactly but even "grow a little backbone" is unduly generous the Chief Water-carrier.
The nice thing about the Republicans coming in is that all the public servants suddenly remember the laws, obligations to the constitution and their jobs.
Like 34x convicted felon Donald Trump?
You really are a one note retard aren't yas Charlie.
Nobody who is intellectually honest thinks that conviction was valid and non partisan lol.
And he still is not technically a felon until he is sentenced. Best not defame him like ABC News.
Which is why
a) if he IS intellectually honest and recognizes this then you should identify the attempt (successful) at trolling , or
b) if he ISNT intellectually honest - why bother replying?
Whatever happened to the rule? -
Dont feed the trolls
I know...
sometimes
"the (clean) spirit in me compells me "
[and this is implicitly to point out that it is in response to an unclean spirit]
All twelve jurors approved by Trump's own attorneys were intellectually dishonest and partisan? What went wrong there? Are his attorneys so incompetent they can't pick even one impartial juror, or is the deep state conspiracy so deep and so powerful that it can stack an entire jury pool (but still can't get
Joe BidenKamala Harris elected ¯\_(ツ)_/¯).To be fair and this doesn't matter for prosecution or defense, when selecting Jurors you don't get to get to keep dismissing them indefinitely until you get the ones you want or are even ok with, you get some rejections without cause.
Yeah, it's pretty slimy that likely 90 years from now, you likely won't be able to make a derivative work from "Wicked".
[tilts hand]
It's not like Gregory Maguire churning out sequels or musicals themselves like Baum did.
Agreed that it's slimy, but we're also like 8 layers deep into degenerative sludge here as well.
Hey, for a real boost to creative inspiration, maybe all property should become public domain after 28 years. Watch out for 30 year mortgages!
Which illustrates that "intellectual property" is not property.
Maybe corporations themselves should enter the public domain after 28 years.
Sort of begging the question there aren't you? Why are you entitled to someone else's labor without their say?
I bet Vern never invented something, at least that other people might want.
I swear it is like some people think IP just magically appears out of thin air. Akin to the elves and the shoemaker.
I fine with rights ending at death. Or a sane amount of time lapse. But this shit takes actual labor. Actual time. Actual resources.
I wonder who else has espoused the Labor Theory of Value.
If you believe that copyright should have a time limit, then you must agree with me that it is not a property right. The right to property does not expire.
Correct. Property is something you can protect by sitting on it with a rifle in hand. We join others in communities partly to make jointly protecting our property less arduous.
"Intellectual Property" are intangible ideas that only have value when you let others in on them. We encourage the creation of these by allowing the creators exclusive marketing for a limited time. That is not a natural right; the natural impulse of someone who wrote a new song is not to keep it secret, but to sing it for others to hear. Letting the time of protected copyrights run far past the creator's life does not encourage the original work, but it does prevent others from creating new works incorporating elements of older works.
Why are you entitled to someone else's labor without their say?
We're not.
It’s almost like two people could have the same (or very similar ideas) at the same time but two people can’t occupy the same space at the same time.
Weird.
Blame Disney for most of these copyright extensions.
No. Blame government. The government you wish to absolve of all blame attracts and enables the cronies you wish to blame.
You can blame both, but I attach more blame to an instigator.
I do not blame the person giving the money. I blame the person taking the money and doing what the payer asked.
The payer can only make an offer. The government goon is the one who can make stuff happen.
So I am wondering how you feel about Elon Musk's influence in next administration?
What's your concern? I'm guessing more of one than Soros?
I am not concerned I am asking about damikesc's concern. He is concerned about the people taking the money and I am wondering if that includes Trump who took Musk'd money?
I do not blame the person giving the money.
Unless it's Soros, right?
Well he does love giving money to paid rioters.
Hear hear. The notion of blaming the government for everything an instigator does is intended to eliminate all possibility of reforming an institution in favor of blowing it up and replacing it with nothing that has ever existed.
That’s what we have now.
If only there was an accountable, elected body that we could blame.
Correct. Massive influence peddling.
Blame Disney for most of these copyright extensions.
There Congress was, minding its own business when... ALL OF A SUDDEN!
Just found out that a Terrorist attack on Bourbon St kills at least ten overnight so I immediately put on Fox News to see which Democrat was blamed. (Biden was the first so far).
White pickup truck used. Rifle and explosives found. Texas license plate. Hmmmm.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Fuck off and die, shit-stain.
So you’re telling me this was a right wing nut job ? Care to guess at his motives, then? I’ll give you credit if you accurately nail it.
As an aside, a 45 year old man was looking at his phone yesterday while waiting on the subway, when a 23 year old man came up from behind and shoved him onto the tracks in front of an oncoming train. Zero points to anyone who can guess the races of each individual.
I presume that the perp is a 23-yr old black male by the way you phrased it.
Progs (and Mothers Lament) would call that racist yet the stats show that 53% of homicides are committed by black males 18-34. The Open Society commitment is to allow all discussion and criticism, by the way.
#OpenSociety
turd, the TDS-addled shit-stain of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I don't have a clue at this point. But I am humored by the blame game that immediately starts among partisans.
And even when plenty of evidence is found the denial among the partisan nut-jobs is hilarious. Do you recall the poster John here? He was a Team Red partisan idiot if you don't remember. He claimed that Timothy McVeigh was a radical progressive tree-hugging Democrat terrorist. I sometimes think that John became JesseAZ. Same Team Red DNA and blind idiocy.
Bullshit. You have your own agenda and biases, and your own desire to flame.
"White pickup truck used. Rifle and explosives found. Texas license plate. Hmmmm."
Not partisan at all.
That is no partisan claim.
Neither is "Subaru Outback used. Vermont license plate. Hmmm"
I have no issue at all being clear when I want to blame someone.
Oh wow. This is why Open Society fired you.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
shut up Sevo
You can't cancel me. Freedom of speech you know. You hate free speech and I love it.
No, you love child rape videos. You shouldn’t be canceled. You should be put in prison, forever.
Bullshit again. Are you stupid or lying?
Both. It’s both.
Did they find assault fire extinguishers or a manifesto to slow walk?
Without the media dishonestly framing the situation in the exact way it's framed, I won't know if the guy was a right-wing BlueAnon donor or an extreme right-wing BlueAnon donor who registered as a Republican in their state primary.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Shrike: "Just found out that a Terrorist attack on Bourbon St kills at least ten overnight so I immediately put on Fox News to see which Democrat was blamed. (Biden was the first so far).
White pickup truck used. Rifle and explosives found. Texas license plate. Hmmmm."
Also Shrike, just minutes later: "But I am humored by the blame game that immediately starts among partisans."
Sarcasmic levels of self awareness here, Pluggo. If you're going to troll libertarians, you should try being a little less retarded.
I haven't blamed anyone. I did not blame a Trump-tard or any other type conservative.
I blamed the driver of a white truck with a Texas license plate. That is it. It could be Beto for all I know.
Your reading comprehension is the worst.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
What if it turns out the vehicle is a rental? I'm sure that adds substantive information into your "hmm-ing" about the vehicle being from Texas.
Hilarious.
Of all the inflammatory things I have posted you guys are worked up about "Hmmmm".
Of all the inflammatory things I have posted
You misspelled "stupid as fuck"
If you're going to troll libertarians,you should try being a little less retarded.I wouldn't inflict him on other people and really, given the evidence of his dishonesty and low-grade effort, he should just stop being retarded or stop altogether.
"I don't have a clue at this point. But I am humored by the blame game that immediately starts among partisans."
YOU began the blame game, pedo.
I don't have a clue
You should have stopped typing here, dumbass.
Maybe it was teleprompter shrapnel...
Holy whiskers Batman, this looks like the work of an anti-democratic, anti-libertarian tyrant. Let's blame Steinmeier!
The perpetrator’s name is Shamsud Din Jabbar
Typical Texan.
Right wing attack (Religious zealot) obviously. Turdass was right. Damn, I might have to unmute him.
Suspect identified, hmmmm…….
https://www.fox8live.com/2025/01/01/suspect-new-orleans-terror-attack-identified/
NEW ORLEANS (WVUE) - The man accused of the deadly New Year’s Day attack on Bourbon Street has been identified as Shamsud Din Jabbar, 42. Law enforcement sources confirmed the suspect’s identity to Fox 8 just before noon on Wednesday, Jan. 1. The FBI later confirmed the identity.
Jabbar is accused of intentionally driving a pickup truck through barricades into a crowd of pedestrians on Bourbon Street near Canal Street early Wednesday morning.
“The truck used in the attack had a Texas license plate and was carrying an ISIS flag, according to the FBI. A handgun, an AR-style rifle, and improvised explosive devices (IEDs) were found inside.”
So yeah, definitely blaming Biden, and the rest of you democrats. I also would t be surprised to find out that he’s one of your illegals.
It's a rented vehicle, that's the real kicker.
The FBI said in a statement midday Wednesday that Jabbar is a U.S. citizen from Texas.
https://www.nola.com/news/crime_police/new-orleans-suspect-bourbon-street-attack/article_d90e3452-c85f-11ef-a68f-f30b3ad49828.html
You're a hillbilly moron - you dumbass Trump-Tard.
He’s still a murdering Islamist, and therefore democrats, like you, are to blame. This is on top of your Marxism, and your pedophilia.
All reasons for you to commit suicide. So do it now.
Also, this guy is seemingly US Military or ex-military. We'll see if the spin manages to twist that around into being a right wing reactionary.
As opposed to a democrat sponsored diversity hire.
Can you wait for the bodies to cool off before pedo'ing up the threads?
That barbecue in the passenger seat was Halal.
The anal appliance attempted to lie by association.
The pickup truck was rented. The driver was American born and a veteran, but with a middle-eastern name and face, and an Islamist flag or poster. There were bombs in the truck like he intended to set a timer and slip away, leaving the bomb to blow up rescuers - but cops engaged him in a gunfight and killed him before he set the timer.
Not confirmed yet: Others apparently attempted to plant bombs nearby at the same time, so it might have been a conspiracy. Or reports coming out of the overactive imaginations of terrified people.
There was another car bombing with a rented Tesla pseudo-pickup truck elsewhere on the same day, but the only connection between the two incidents seems to be two different nuts thinking that New Year's Day was a good day for insane killing. This nut appears to be a white American, and he shot himself after setting the timer on the bomb. I have heard nothing about his politics or religion, but how many conservatives would be caught dead in an EV?
prevented from being adapted or repurposed
By people who can't come up with anything on their own.
Much of the work done is derivative in nature. This true in arts and also the technical world. The person building a better mousetrap is usually building on a old design.
If it is patented they are still paying a license fee on the original plans dumdum.
What you seem to be missing is the point of the article. No one is suggesting that intellectual property should not be protected, the question is the length of time that protection should extend. Because most things are built on earlier works societies need to allow access after some designated time.
False comparison.
It's one thing to think, "That's a pretty nifty mousetrap, how can I improve on that." That leads to new innovations and greater utility.
It's another to think, "Rather than coming up with character lore and worldbuilding of my own, I'll just piggyback on someone else's. And not because I love it and think I can do great things with it, just to get me some of them easy dollars (or, worse, to intentionally bastardize it)." That leads to... schlock.
Why do you think Star Wars is so friggin' god-awful now? And not just the really new stuff - just go back to the remakes of the original, where suddenly there's just a bunch of CGI nonsense literally shoved into the screen for no purpose or reason that improves it. It's like taking the Mona Lisa, giving her blue eyes, and declaring it something "new and improved." Neither of which is true.
Go find a copy machine sometime, and make a copy of a photo. Then copy the copy. Then copy the copy of the copy. Then copy the copy of the copy of the copy. Repeat this about a dozen times, and then compare the original to the final version. You'll see what I mean.
Building a better mousetrap is *iterative*, not derivative.
Remaking 'Wicked' is derivative.
Copyright laws are now surrogates for government censorship. In the late 1930s, Germany produced shorter "localized" translations of Hitler's "Mein Kampf" which left out many interesting features. FDR, who'd learned to read German while studying there, commented on this whitewashing, but was powerless to do anything about it. Artificial Persons like Apple reinforce this. They pack their user agreements with kowtowing to totalitarian government demands. Appeals to the Contracts Clause then add extra teeth, manacles and coshes.
I wonder if the ghost of Hank will finally get around to bitching about the world of the 2020s in 2115?
Nah, he might be focused on Reagan, instead of Nixon by then.
The future far left Democratic US Senator Alan Cranston translated Mein Kampf from German. Hitler's official translator had watered down the nastiest parts and Cranston wanted English speakers to know just how horrible Hitler was. Cranston self published and sold it for ten cents. Hitler's publisher, who was selling the sanitized version for three dollars, successfully sued for copyright infringement. Had Cranston been able to continue to distribute the accurate translation, America First might not have had as much support and the United States might have been better prepared for WW2.
Are you trying to interact with Hank?
Alan Cranston, not FDR. See my other comment.
Monocles, you say?
In principle I do agree that copyright lasts too long and that there are even good libertarian arguments against copyright in general. I do have concerns with large companies like Sony or Disney just looking at the next Harry Potter and spending vast sums and resources to appropriate the world from it’s author by pumping out derivative works. Sorry JK Harry is now a trans girl boss taking down the patriarchy!
That said I think there are private remedies to that- if copyright is nerfed then the IP is worth less to Sony anyways and the only way to give value add is to get author endorsements.
But as someone who dabbled in writing at a younger age there is something terrifying about knowing that your characters could be taken and changed in ways you never wanted.
Last hungover thought is that this isn’t new. Look at Greek mythology and you see how many people working together can create overlapping, contradictory, derivative works and better the world with it.
Patents and copyrights should not exist for any corporation with an indefinite life. That is already a huge subsidy given by the state to corporations and only corporations.
But Corporations are Persons!!!
Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad Company is one of the worst Supreme Court decisions ever. But it will never be overturned and everyone knows why.
Yes, shit-for-brains, they are.
*cough* section 230 *cough*
Terrorist ID - Shamsud Din Jabbar 42 year old and a US citizen from Texas.
Religion of Peace adherent.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
So this is all your fault, right Kiddie Raper?
If only we had the courage to not say fundemental islamic terrorism. Am I right well adjusted
bidenguykamalaguy?An ISIS flag and multiple weapons were found with the vehicle including explosives. This could have been far worse. The FBI is treating this as NOT an attack by a solo terrorist.
The FBI has 20 days to complete the investigation before Trump and Patel emasculate it.
Libertarians and MAGA Cult members will say that only the New Orleans police should investigate. They have no experience in investigating terrorist incidents. Terrorist wannabes are jumping for joy at the MAGA inspired plans to have the FBI focus on Trump's political opponents rather than enemies of the United States.
FBI is too busy investigating pro life centers, school board attending moms, and J6ers. The real terrorists Charlie.
God damn you're a partisan dumbass.
What a fucking asshole. Tell us more now about Democrats support open borders and give special protection to Muslims because critiquing Islam is mean or something. And I bet you have enjoyed watching the security state target conservative Americans while ignoring "protected class" people. Fuck off and die, shit weasel.
We are celebrating Carter still who tried to make excuses for Islam going after Rushdie.
https://www.cartercenter.org/news/documents/doc1381.html
The fbi shut down the Boston bombing investigation, and shut down the Vegas shooting investigation. The fbi has a hand in terrorist activities.
Voting Record:
He has an active voting registration in Texas, according to records reviewed by Fox News Digital. Texas does not have partisan voting registration.
He previously resided in North Carolina, where, in 2012, he was registered as a Democrat.
Poor shrike.
On the front page of every American news outlet
“Terrorist kills 15 people in New Orleans”
Reason
“Copyright law no es bueno”
While it is important to protect authors it is also important to remember that so many works are built on earlier works. A balance must be struck to allow an author, artist, or musician to profit from their works while allow other to extend those works. Imagine if Shakespeare's plays were still under copyright. No "Sons of Anarchy" and no "Succession" and I am sure many other works would also be prohibited.
No West Side Story. Three Verdi operas banned.
But MAGA would love to ban &Juliet
Fuck off and die, asshole.
Because Shakespeare was completely original and not riffing off real-world things that humans have been doing for millennia therefore Sons of Anarchy must be a modern-day Shakespeare copy?
Much of Shakespeare was derivative.
Very much. For instance, Romeo and Juliet was based on an Italian story that had recently been translated into English. He even kept the main characters' names, although Shakespeare invented Mercutio and other characters. But he did not bother to change the play's Italian setting.
Hamlet was not only copied from previous literature, but from multiple sources set in at least two different nations. There were several tales of a Danish prince taking revenge on a usurper who murdered his father. In Roman legend, the original Brutus (from 800 years before Caesar) played stupid rather than insane to take revenge on the king of Rome - in one version, this was for raping Brutus's wife, in another for murdering Brutus's father and brothers.
I publish a lot and have always had to sign away my copyrights to the publisher. Authors are not protected.
Unlike you, I *do* publish a lot and am 100% c/w protected. Perhaps you, as a truly dumb shit, should learn more about that, and pretty much everything else.
And then, make the world a better place; fuck off and die.
Unlike you, I *do* publish
Inconceivable! Who reads an entire article of fuck off and die you TDS addled shitpile?
Happy New Year, Sevo.
"...Inconceivable! Who reads an entire article of fuck off and die you TDS addled shitpile?..."
TDS-addled shits who should fuck off and die; those who deserve it.
Now, read at least one of:
1) "Unsettled" (Koonin)
2) "Climate Uncertainty.." (Curry)
3) "Apocalypse Never" (Shellenberger)
And then get back to me with an intelligent response, if you are capable of such.
Until then, fuck off and die in the new year, TDS addled pile of shit.
BTW, not the author of any of those, but author of many print and e-comments supporting the attempt at stopping such bullshit
List some things which you have published, please.
It's the same in the music business. Few recording artists own the rights to their songs. Hard to get signed to a record company unless you agree to sell them the rights.
Bullshit.
The Beatles famously lost control of their repertoire for over 50 years. Paul McCartney was able to buy back the rights just a few years ago.
Charlie is too fucking stupid to know how easy it is to self publish these days. Charlie does not write shit.
Disagreed! Charlie writes shit every time he posts! He is a TDS-addled steaming pile of shit.
Self publish. Problem solved.
That is becoming more and more common!
Who owns the copyright depends on where you publish and whether you write independently or are hired to write. I suspect that the majority of those earning a living by writing are either tech writers doing user manuals and similar material, or scriptwriters working for TV and movie studios, and that is almost always work for hire - the employer hired the writer and owns all rights. Charlie Hall may be telling the truth because he's in one of these categories.
Much of what is published in magazines is work for hire - the magazine requested an article on a particular subject, and owns the rights, even if the author isn't paid until the work is accepted for publication. Most novels are not. For example, even though _Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas_ was written for and first published in _Rolling Stone_, Hunter S. Thompson is the copyright owner. (I found a copy on-line and read the copyright page.)
"DOS For Dummies" copyright is owned by a publisher, and I suspect that's true for the entire series - the writers were under the supervision of the publishing company. But if you wrote a similar book independently, without using any trademark or copyrighted material, you'd own the copyright - whether or not you found a publisher. If you put "For Dummies" in your title and self-published it by simply putting it on the internet, the company would sue you into bankruptcy for trademark infringement, but it would still be your copyright. So if you are a tech writer and want to break out of writing for hire and own your work without changing your field, you've got to figure out a new way of advertising that it's a better user manual.
>Movies like Wicked draw on classic works no longer under copyright protection.
Is that really a good thing though.
"Wicked" is a *remake* who's main selling point seems to be that the Witch is Black under the Green makeup. Its a remake of a re-mix of a story that is no longer under copyright.
We already have a culture that just makes the same stuff over and over without any attempt at originality. All this does is open some more stuff up to being re-made - no more effort at being original needed.
And LLM's are going to shit because they're just re-mixing the same garbage over and over - and we haven't avoided doing the same thing in our media.
"Wicked" is a *remake* who's main selling point seems to be that the Witch is Black under the Green makeup.
Oh, it's not just that she's black. It's that she's Cynthia Erivo. (Who is black and LGBT pedo, who like all intersectionals needs to make damn sure you know it.)
https://x.com/myaranae_/status/1846566729708617773
I, I, I, me, me, me. Self-important narcissists goin' narcissist.
"Oh, it's not just that she's black. It's that she's Cynthia Erivo. (Who is black and LGBT pedo, who like all intersectionals needs to make damn sure you know it.)"
Don't care who pays money to watch it.
In fairness to her, her acting and singing came close to being a redeeming point for the movie. Absolutely hated it and turned it off maybe 20min in. Most of that is due to the genre, but also the ugly storytelling. I can't stand Erivo based on what I've seen of her outside of the film, but she was decent enough in it and sang better than Ariana.
Don't care who pays money to watch it.
Is that really a good thing though.
The "It came in second, domestically, to a cartoon no one asked for and the death rattle of the superhero genre." was really telling/humorous.
Look at the boxofficemojo list, what an abjectly shit year for cinema/storytelling it was. You've got to get to somewhere around 15-20 before you literally get to something that isn't a second or greater iteration in the franchise or a remake of the stage show of the musical of the book of the reimagining of the stories someone else wrote. And even then, the source material for the work is like the 5th novel from some otherwise no name Romance Drama/Teen Fiction adult girl writer.
The celebration of Wicked, with the vibrant pinks and greens muddled by sepia tones seems kinda poetic.
A huge fraction of the greatest works of musical theater are derivative, from L'Orfeo to Hamilton.
I read the novel and don't need to see the stage and screen adaptations, so I don't care who is playing the witches. It's a clever addition to the Wizard of Oz universe, and definitely has value. If the adaptations are lacking in value, that's on the adapters, not the original author. But I am beginning to wonder if Hollywood will have to look like Flint, Michigan before the entertainment industry learns "go woke, go broke."
Yes. We should go back to the 1790 Copyright Act.
I would support that!
The big copyright/IP question.
Is it protecting ownership from fraud or restricting outside competition (monopolizing)?
It has always from the very beginning been about restricting outside competition and granting a government-endorsed monopoly.
Correct. Endorsed by the Founding Fathers of the United States.
If you've spent much time with free(bug)ware you should know better.
It literally is the no IP/copyright arena.
The arena where no-one is motivated enough to produce better.
Trademarks protect ownership from fraud in the form of a competitor selling a product pretending to be someone else's brand. For instance, if I put up a McDonald's sign over my burger stand, or if I made animated cartoons featuring an anthropomorphized mouse and sold them as "Mickey Mouse".
Copyright protects "original works of authorship" from unauthorized copying. For instance, if I directly copied Mickey Mouse CD's, whether they are for sale or my personal use - but the copyright is supposed to be for a limited time only, so the creators get their pay-off and then it goes into the public domain, and anyone can copy the material and use pieces of it for their own work. For instance, when Disney used the Brothers Grimm's books for the plots of several animated movies. Disney bought congressmen to subvert that "limited time" clause for themselves but not for the Grimm heirs, but it seems that Congressional approval of unlimited extensions has finally ended and the oldest Disney copyrights are running out.
Finally, patents protect physical product ideas from copying for a limited time so the inventors can profit but not tie up new ideas forever. These actually have remained limited time - I think now it is 20 years from the time of filing for a patent.