Raising the SALT Cap Is a Gift to High-Tax States
Capping state and local tax deductions sparked a tax migration that rewarded pro-growth states. Raising the cap now would stall reform where it’s needed most.

The Tax Cuts and Jobs Act (TCJA)—passed in 2017 during the first Trump administration—wasn't really a tax cut in practice. It ended up functionally raising taxes on a lot of people.
While it did lower marginal income tax rates across the board, reducing the top rate from 39.6 percent to 37 percent, it also capped the deduction for state and local taxes (SALT) at $10,000 annually. SALT includes income taxes, of course, but also property taxes, so the new cap hit taxpayers in high-tax states like New York, New Jersey, and California particularly hard. Even in states without income taxes, where property taxes are frequently higher, many people saw their tax bills increase because they could no longer fully deduct these expenses.
The result was a significant migration of people and capital, with impacts that will be felt for decades. California is losing 500,000 residents annually (about 1 percent of its population), primarily to states like Idaho, Arizona, and Texas. High-profile moves included Amazon founder Jeff Bezos (who migrated from Washington state to Florida to avoid an imminent capital gains tax designed explicitly for him), and the hedge fund Citadel, which moved its headquarters from Chicago to Miami. Northeastern "tax refugees" have also settled in cities like Nashville, Tennessee, and Austin, Texas. Over time, the migration from blue states to red states could reshape the congressional map, potentially giving red states more influence. (Perhaps this was then-Treasury Secretary Steven Mnuchin's long game.)
The rationale behind capping the SALT deduction was that it would disproportionally benefit high-income earners in high-tax states—and it did. In effect, the federal government was subsidizing the tax-and-spend policies of these states by shielding residents from the full impact of local tax increases. If California raised its taxes, the SALT deduction softened the blow for taxpayers. Mnuchin, along with then-President Donald Trump, hatched the idea, and despite only modest adjustments to marginal tax rates, it became the most consequential tax legislation since Ronald Reagan's Tax Reform Act of 1986.
Last week, economist Stephen Moore, a member of Trump's current economic advisory transition team, told Bloomberg there is a consideration to increase the SALT write-off limit from $10,000 to $20,000. This, Moore said, "would solve the problem for middle-class families in blue states" who got hammered by the TCJA cap on deductions. For example, an affluent household in New Jersey might pay $20,000 in property taxes alone, plus another $10,000 or more in state income taxes. For a household in the 24 percent marginal tax bracket, the change would mean $2,400 in tax savings.
The proposal is laudable under humanitarian grounds, but libertarians should oppose any policy that enables high-tax states to continue their heavy spending. Notably, no high-tax state has reduced its tax rates in response to the SALT-driven migration, and they likely won't until they face a full-scale drain of intellectual and economic capital.
As Trump prepares to take office again, no provision or deduction is off the table, including the possibility of broader tax reforms. There has even been discussion of a flat tax—an idea that could generate significant excitement among fiscal conservatives. But raising the cap on SALT deductions would ease pressure on blue states to simplify or lower their tax rates. Consider that California's top marginal rate is a whopping 13.3 percent. When combined with a top federal rate of 37 percent, Golden State residents are approaching a Sweden-level tax rate. Meanwhile, seven states impose no state income tax at all. This dynamic highlights the beauty of the American political system—the states compete for talent and resources. Over time, high-tax states will lose capital, and low-tax states will benefit.
It's difficult to oppose any proposal that lowers taxes, but an exception applies here. Raising the SALT cap would only reward high-tax states for their fiscal irresponsibility while undermining the competitive pressures that drive reform. Cities like Nashville, Austin, and Miami are thriving as new hubs of innovation precisely because they've embraced freedom and pro-growth policies. They've earned their success—and that's the lesson high-tax states need to learn.
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Cut all income taxes, as much as you can, in every case.
Eliminate deductions. Flat tax. Let voters in high tax states live with their state level votes.
flat tax just means everyone pays the same rate on their taxable income but deductions still occur.
Eliminate income tax entirely.
That's why I said eliminate deductions...
And I'd be fine with a switch to consumption taxes.
A regressive tax that hits poorer people hardest? That’s a terrible idea.
Agreed.
Eliminate the onerous and costly income tax and replace it with a tax that is more just and equitable, like a national sales tax.
Sales taxes are regressive, the exact opposite of just and equitable.
Same here on the flat tax, although leftist cities will run almost all states.
See Chicago leftist mayor on property taxes. They’re actually going after anyone who owns anything. See Illinois on Truth in accounting- bankrupt state (leftist Governor)
It seems that leftist sanctuary cities take over (through population) once practical purple/red states.
Probably because blue states are vastly more economically successful than red states. Also why the SALT cap hit blue states harder, because people want to be there so property values are much higher and lots of companies are fighting for quality workers, so salaries are higher.
Even with the exact same tax rates as red states (the ones with an income tax), SALT deductions would be higher in blue states because they are more economically successful.
Income tax implementation
Step 1: Define 'income'.
For every $1 it takes in as tax revenue, the government forces the economy to produce $1.20 and produce reams of paperwork to track, report, and justify the taxes owed and paid. That's hugely, grossly inefficient, not to mention invasive and a huge drag on the productivity of the economy.
A "flat tax" does nothing (or virtually nothing) to correct this situation.
(longer version) https://reason.com/2024/12/17/baby-incentives/?comments=true#comment-10837771
It isn’t about making the process less onerous or labor-intensive. Once you have an income tax, that infrastructure will be required regardless of what the tax structure imposed on it looks like.
It’s about eliminating the loopholes and sweetheart carve outs in the tax code that lobbyists create for their special interest groups, like the carried interest loophole.
While a progressive income tax isn’t great, it’s the best option available for the vast majority of Americans.
A "flat tax" removes about 0.000001% of the complexity of the tax code. And even that complexity boils down to looking up a table that says (for several values of A and B)
"If your income is more than $A and $B, then your tax is $Y plus Z% times the income in excess of $X". (see e.g, https://www.irs.gov/pub/irs-pdf/i1040tt.pdf)
Multiple tax brackets are about the least complex part of the tax code.
I agree 100% with a no-deduction flat tax. I never thought Jesse and I would agree, but here it is.
Not if the cut is "bundled" with other tax increases that outweigh it.
And this one does. It cuts income taxes for wealthy people who choose to live in high-tax jurisdictions which means that next year, all of us (including those of us who don't live in kleptocratic jurisdictions) will either see our taxes increase or will suffer the shared costs of a government even more in debt than it would have been.
Water is wet.
Nobody needs 23 types of state and local taxes.
How you gonna figure the palm greasing with transparency in the NY NJ tax code?
Fuck off. Actions have consequences. Residents of Blue resistance-sanctuary-union-welfare states deserve all the confiscatory pain they voted for.
I would, however, support tax breaks in those states for people who voted against the current regimes.
I would, however, support tax breaks in those states for people who voted against the current regimes.
And how is that supposed to happen with secret ballots?
It isn’t really feasible. The sentiment is that de o rats ahold be punished for what they have done, and are continuing to do.
Easy peasy. All in-person voters get a code when they submit their ballot. When they file taxes, they include that code to determine tax rates. And rates will depend on the ballot choices they made.
Lazy mail-in voters can fuck themselves.
Those tax breaks are called “moving”
While it did lower marginal income tax rates across the board, reducing the top rate from 39.6 percent to 37 percent, it also capped the deduction for state and local taxes (SALT) at $10,000 annually. SALT includes income taxes, of course, but also property taxes, so the new cap hit taxpayers in high-tax states like New York, New Jersey, and California particularly hard. Even in states without income taxes, where property taxes are frequently higher, many people saw their tax bills increase because they could no longer fully deduct these expenses.
Think about this for a moment. The cap not only hits people in "high tax states" hard. It also hits anyone wealthy enough to have their state and local taxes go over the cap. The tax rates in a particular state could be lower than average, but a person with high enough income would still see their deduction capped.
The libertarian argument here is based on wanting a race to the bottom. They figure that making states compete with each other to have wealthy people living and working there by having lower taxes is good. And it is good only because it lowers taxes for those with higher incomes and wealth. For Republican partisans, it is clearly about punishing "blue" states for being blue and thinking that having higher taxes and more services for lower income residents is good policy.
States are supposed to be the "laboratories of democracy", right? Having the federal government put its finger on the scales in any direction makes that experimentation less valid.
This is absolutely correct. This is double taxation (you are literally taxing dollars that earners never saw, because they were confiscated by their home state), and most Libertarians and even fiscal conservatives were against this type of stuff until the broad populist shift on both sides of the aisle, towards using the tax code as a social engineering tool.
By the way, all these assholes, including Mr Dillian were SURE that this cap would lead Blue States to cap their income-tax rates. They were confident that the pain would be so bad that Blue States would have to lower their taxes. This, of course, did not happen and now Dillian, et al, have shifted the goal posts. And if you claim to be a libertarian (or write for a libertarian magazine) and brag about your law affecting the mass migration of people away from states you don't like...well that isn't a libertarian argument to be making.
Also noteworthy, is that for many, many, many rich blue-staters this didn't result in them moving or lowering state taxes. No, they went to washington and carved out new tax exemptions. Look up Solar Equity Swaps, and Environmental Land Easements. These creative tax shelters give rich people sitting on hoards of liquid assets, an easy way to lower their taxable income with a check written in December, all to get it back from the government as a refund.
So while it is nice and dandy that Dillian is declaring victory because he got to socially engineer the migration of thousands of wealthy, mobile individuals he should not be so sanguine. Those rich enough- or secure enough in their careers- to move have done so, or squirreled their money away in tax shelters that massively distort our energy markets and destroy the use of our ranch-lands. Anyone couple earning a combined salary of more than $150,000 will be on the hook for paying the US government 24 cents (or more) for every dollar that the State confiscates in these Blue States. And the answer from proponents seems to be that that is a good thing because they don't like those peoples' politics. Puke.
Fvck You
Someone making $200k in Nashville should pay the same Federal Taxes as someone making $200k in New York.
Someone making $250k in San Antonio does not get $10k more on government services than someone making $250k in San Francisco
You should pay the same federal taxes in Bridgeport as you do in Boca Raton
This is the main gist of it all. Federal income taxes should NOT be structured to cause large disparities for similar incomes in different states.
P.S. I'm in a low/medium-tax state but still hit SALT limitations, so I would benefit from increasing or removing the cap.
People in California who "make" $200,000 pay more in taxes to the Federal Government than people in Nashville who "make" $200,000. Because in order to make $200,000 a person in California needs to earn around $236,000, whereas the person in TN has to earn around $214,000. (This is a simplification- marginal tax rates change the math more.) Both will never see the dollars above $200k, but they will have to pay taxes on any amount above $10,000. Assuming no other deductions, the person in TN will pay an additional ~$1,200 in taxes and the person in California will pay an additional ~$7,800.
It has been accepted that a person doesn't "Make" money that was taxed ever since the income-tax system was created. That's why foreign tariffs were always deductible. That's why you don't pay Income Tax on the Payroll Taxes that fund the SS and Medicare programs.
The only reason people suddenly think State taxes should be given a special treatment is because of Team Red/Blue politics. Here you are telling someone to "Fvck off" over TAX POLICY. Tribes have turned the realm of accountants into yet another pissing match. You should calm down and look at it with principles, not with tribal emotion.
Also: Capping state and local tax deductions sparked a tax migration that rewarded pro-growth states. [...] The result was a significant migration of people and capital, with impacts that will be felt for decades. California is losing 500,000 residents annually (about 1 percent of its population), primarily to states like Idaho, Arizona, and Texas.
And just ask the peoples of Idaho, Arizona, and Texas how much they appreciate the influx!
So it actually does what Democrats claim they want to do through the tax code by making high earners “pay their fair share”?
Why are you Democrats so upset over….oh!
How much income do you have to earn in NY or CA to have OVER $10,000 in SALT deductions?
This is a clear and open gift to the very high income class.
Very high? Anyone in California making 70K to 360K is paying 9.3%. Anyone making over 144K a year owes 10K in state income taxes. The median household income in Silicon Valley is 150K.
Edit, that wasn't the state tax
It is noteworthy that the SALT cap is $10k for a Married Couple, meaning their combined income need only be $150kish.
As a high tax state resident (Massachusetts) I loathe the idea of raising the SALT deduction. The leeches running this state need to get it through their heads that the rest of the country is not interested in supporting their socialist agenda. LOWER the SALT deduction, and maybe a few of my wobbly neighbors will shift just far enough away from the left to start to influence how things are done around here. Please don't help the fools in Boston make things worse!
Libertarians for fewer tax breaks?
Why should people in lower local confiscatory regions foot the bill for those in higher areas at a federal level? They chose higher local taxes knowing what the federal rate was so they should be paying the same federally and more locally like they voted, not less federally and more locally.
Now you want to talk about less and less, that's fine but the topic here is burden shifting and bearing the cost of one's votes regionally.
That’s not at all what the SALT cap does. It gives preferential treatment to those who live in less economically healthy areas. Almost no one in Mississippi or Kansas needs to worry about the cap because almost no one makes enough money. Mississippi and Kansas (along with a lot of other deep red states) aren’t economically vibrant states and don’t have many high-income jobs or industries.
States like California or New York, on the other hand, have a lot of jobs like that. It drives up the cost of living in a state when there are lots of lucrative, high-demand jobs and lots of people want to live there. That, in turn, puts upward pressure on salaries. Unsurprisingly, tech and finance pay better than farming. A lot better.
Where do you get your ideas about what the Kansas economy is like? Most of the Kansas population is in the 2 largest metropolitan areas, Wichita and the Kansas part of Kansas City. The Wichita economy includes advanced manufacturing and materials, aerospace the "Air Capital of the World", energy, IT, transportation, and Koch Industries headquarters. The median family annual income in Kansas in 2023 was $84,830, while the New York median family income in 2023 was a little bit less at $81,600. Since you mentioned farming, farm income varies a lot, in 2022 average Kansas farm net income was $164,914, and in 2023 it was $89,667. State income tax rates, excluding NYC, are about the same for incomes near the median income in both states. In NYC there is an additional 3-4% city income tax. There are plenty of households in both states that are subject to the SALT cap.
I notice you use median and average in the places that it benefits your argument best. In a low-population state like Kansas, using the median hides the fact that there aren’t very many people in the highest bracket. The average income in New York or California is vastly higher than in Kansas, which is what matters in assessing economic strength. Hell, with the population of Kansas, strip out the Koch income and even the median would plummet.
Saying that a state is economically successful is an assessment of its overall strength. Having a multi-sector economy is important, but having small sectors of high-earning sectors with one or two dominant sectors isn’t as balanced or strong base.
Kansas is still trying to recover from the supply-side shitshow that Sam Brownback created. Unsurprisingly, it didn’t usher in an economic utopia, because supply-side economics doesn’t work. It just degraded the infrastructure of the state.
You appear to be innumerate, but innumeracy is quite common in the US. Most politicians and media types are innumerate
The median is the midpoint. Half the values will be greater than the median. That means that 50% of Kansas families have incomes greater than $84,830. For New York 50% of families have incomes greater than $81,600. This means that more than 50% of Kansas families have incomes greater than 50% of New York families. Having percentiles would allow a better comparison. Excluding the Kochs from the Kansas median income calculation would not change the median income. Using Charles Koch's income, if we could determine what that is, would increase the average income for Wichita, but whether or not his income is included would have no effect on the median income.
I used average farm income since that is what I found with a quick search.
https://www.ksre.k-state.edu/news-and-publications/news/stories/2024/07/agriculture-net-farm-income-forecast-2024.html
You are correct, I reversed average and median. I assumed that you had it the wrong way around, since I figured there was no way Kansas had a higher income than New York. And I was right.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/median-household-income-by-state
New York is 15th at $74,314 and Kansas is 34th at $64,124.
Of the top 17 states in median income, 15 are blue states. Of the bottom 17 states, 15 are red states.
It is as stark and obvious a divide as there can be.
If you want to go by GDP, per-capita GDP of NY ($78,089, 5th) vs. Kansas ($60,152, 29th) follows the same pattern. Of the top 17 states, 15 are blue states. Of the bottom 17 states, 13 are red states.
https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/gdp-by-state
Sorry I took so long to get back to this, but you know with the holidays.
Different sources will give different results for median income. I did use a source with values that I expected would surprise you. Here's a nice presentation by cnbc of the source, the U.S Census Bureau, that I used.
https://www.cnbc.com/2024/09/20/middle-class-incomes-by-state.html
I don't find World Population Review to be a very good source of information. As an example, for an area I am very familiar with, World Population Review lists the Dallas/Fort Worth/Arlington metropolitan population as 6.8 million without giving a source or date. The NCTCOG lists an area population of 8,481,512 and a Metro Planning Area population of 8,342,425 as of January 1, 2024, including documentation. I know the NCTCOG estimates are the more accurate and current of the two sources in describing the DFW area.
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Fuck, no with this "enablement" excuse! You might as well oppose a cut in a tariff because it enables some jurisdiction to partly make it up in a tax on the item. You might as well oppose closing some military base because it enables them to sell it cheaply to some crony. So what if they do? You didn't make them do it.
Tax on tax. That's all you have to know about taxability. A tax on an amount that's already taxed in some other way is a tax on tax. As if taxes weren't bad enough per se, some taxes are double.
It’s hard to think of anything that’s not a tax on tax:
Corporate taxes are taxed three times, corporate, capital gains then taxed at death.
Payroll taxes are taxed when released through social security (bankrupt, ehh I digress)
Why are you listong personal (capital gains and estate taxes) and corporate taxes and claiming they all apply to corporations?
The funny part about this is that Trump's SALT cap was the most "progressive" tax policy implemented in decades, had been pushed by Keynesian economists for a long time, and then the progressives and Keynesians complained about how awful the mean Orange Man was for doing the thing they'd been saying someone should do for years. Because, oops! For once the costs fell in their rich, privileged laps, and boy oh boy did they not like that.
The only way he could have done more of what they claimed to have wanted, before they claimed the opposite, was to tie the SALT deduction cap amount to income levels.
Cuomo wasn’t slaughtered by his own party because of Covid- it was because he made a rational statement to the commies that when you keep taxing productive people or businesses- they’ll flee the state.
The guy was in line to be next POTUS.
I thought it was harassment allegations, although those never seemed to do much to Clinton or Biden.
The case against Cuomo has been dropped... but not the one against NY for his conduct. It's all quite odd. Jonathan Turley had a brief article out about it (12/15).
“ had been pushed by Keynesian economists for a long time”
Really? Which ones were they?
Unless you think the Fed is full of Austrian economists...
https://www.stlouisfed.org/open-vault/2018/may/why-economists-dont-like-mortgage-interest-deduction
There aren’t just Austrians and Keynesians. Making a false binary is disingenuous, to put it kindly. Austrian economics is flawed in many, many ways. It isn’t a viable or desirable system for the 21st century. I mean, the gold standard? Really?
The mortgage interest deduction and SALT deductions are different things. If you want to talk about the SALT cap being supported by Keynesians, talk about it, not something else.
Runaway spending and high taxes are never a good idea, especially when combined.
And look what illegals do to those muni bond yields. Bankrupt cities in bankrupt states.
THIS!!!!
"libertarians should oppose any policy that enables high-tax states to continue their heavy spending"
Sometimes I wonder if writers like Jared actually read what they wrote! Taken at face value, this statement is the exact opposite of what libertarians should oppose. Insofar as there should be any Federal taxes at all, they should be totally neutral as far as state and local taxes are concerned! Whether or not the states are foolish enough to spend too much is of no concern to any other agency of government. If Federal taxation adversely impacts some taxpayers disproportionately, then that taxation is BAD taxation. Since there is no possible way to structure progressive taxation with exemptions for socially approved activities without disproportionate treatment, Federal taxation should be totally flat - no exceptions!
I'm a fk you kind of guy. I think any state taxes over 5% should be taxed an extra time. This is for the luxury of paying for an expensive state. Don't want to pay luxury taxes on a yacht? Don't own a yacht. Don't want to pay luxury taxes for your state? Don't live in a luxury state.
Force the federal government to balance its budget and watch all the state subsidies go up in smoke. Allowing the federal government to borrow money has contributed to all sorts of problems. Make the people pay for every penny of spending.
THIS!!!!
Income taxes are inherently immoral and should be eliminated at every level of government.
Oh and fuck you, cut spending.
Sounds like the same disruption Blue States make when they increase minimum wage.
Now their state (by law) requires MORE of other States money.
And the BIG socialist "who gets the last twinkie" (Hunger-Games) begin.
Socialism is a self-destructive ideology.
Isn't it an oft-repeated cry from Democrats "Tax the rich!" ?
Limiting the SALT deduction cap does exactly that.
I mean sure, fuck you cut spending, cut taxes. But here's a thing we did that took away a sop to the rich in high-tax states, and now everyone is crying to give it back to them?
It doesn’t tax the rich. It taxes the middle class and the rich.
Sorry, it does that in economically successful states that have high-demand areas and higher salaries. Economically deficient states, like the vast majority of red states, don’t have to worry because they don’t have the economic success that leads to high salaries.
Remember, red states are net takers of government subsidies. Blue states are net payers.
LMAO... Economically successful at what? Gov-Gun 'armed-theft'?
Every food, lumber, most manufacturing doesn't come from city-centers. Your BS is exactly that. Complete BS. The only numbers that even supports that BS is the ones claiming 87% of the State is owned by 'Federal Land' and so it's 87% 'Federal' maintenance is a loss.
Whatever standard you want. State GDP, income, wealth, breadth of industry, you name it. Blue states outperform red states by a wide margin.
Just what I said ... 'outperforms' at Gov-Gun 'armed-theft' (welfare).
Bigoted-worship of "The Science" no matter what obvious common-sense is?
GDP is measured on what median?
Actual production or Gov-Gun THEFT $?
How does D.C. (Your Blue-Haven) have one of the largest GDP for an area that produces absolutely NOTHING to speak of?
It's not 'Production' your numbers represents.
"Even in states without income taxes, where property taxes are frequently higher, many people saw their tax bills increase because they could no longer fully deduct these expenses."
Offset in some cases by the significantly larger standard deduction. I hit the SALT cap every year, too. But it turns out that's immaterial since the standard deduction is larger than the sum of my itemized deductions even without SALT cap (primarily due to having paid off the mortgage some years back).