Mass Deportations Are Bad for Everyone's Liberty
Unleashing such force on a broad scale will not result in precise, humane, and just results.

Whenever Donald Trump promotes some controversial idea or uses inflammatory rhetoric, many of his supporters offer some benign interpretation about what is really going to happen. But I find it far better to assume the worst—especially when it comes to the administration's plan to deport millions of illegal immigrants.
Trump made impressive gains among Latino men in particular, who backed him for the same economic and cultural reasons as other voters. But were they worried about the president-elect's stated deportation plans and the potential impact on legal residents of Mexican descent? According to some interviews I've seen, voters were sure the president would only target gang members and drug dealers.
I admire such optimism, but I figure Trump's call for mass deportations means that the incoming president intends on enacting a deportation plan with a focus on the word "mass." That word means "a quantity or aggregate of matter usually of considerable size." He and his allies have stated that they might declare a national emergency and use the military to do the roundups.
History should be a guide. The United States has on previous occasions engaged in similar policies. It did so during the Great Depression, when unemployment was rampant and the federal government didn't want to include braceros—laborers who were invited to the country to work the fields—in New Deal social programs, per History.com.
According to that report, the feds "deported over 1 million Mexican nationals, 60 percent of whom were U.S. citizens of Mexican descent." Yes, most of the deportees were U.S. citizens. It should come as no shock to Trump's conservative supporters that the government is prone to overreach. Limited and targeted government actions often cast a far wider net than promised. The government isn't always great at following its own rules.
Another mass-deportation program—known by the offensive title of "Operation Wetback," referencing a slur about Mexicans who got wet illegally crossing the Rio Grande—took place during the Eisenhower administration. That operation, which was backed by Mexican authorities who faced a labor shortage per the same report, didn't directly use the military. But the Border Patrol used military techniques—and it ensnared many U.S. citizens.
I doubt politicians who have engaged in rhetorical attacks on immigrants will worry about their hardships, but shouldn't they be concerned about what it will mean for U.S. citizens? During the 1950s operation, "Border agents raided Mexican American neighborhoods, demanded ID from 'Mexican-looking' citizens in public, invaded private homes in the middle of the night and harassed Mexican-owned businesses," according to Axios.
Our Constitution upholds due process. The government cannot simply grab people off the street. It needs to follow a legal process. Every accused person gets their day in court to make their case. As George Washington famously said, "Government is not reason, it is not eloquence—it is force."
Unleashing such force on a broad scale will not result in precise, humane, and just results. Government agents will conduct raids. Illegal residents often live among legal ones. Wide swaths of the population will get caught up in the dragnets.
Again, I'm not sure the administration will be too concerned about the travails of immigrants, even those who are here legally. But what will it mean for other Americans? Well, I've read a lot about the economic impact of removing perhaps millions of low-wage workers. Farm fields likely will go fallow. Food prices will rise. Food choices will diminish. Good luck finding gardeners and nannies. It will drive up the cost of construction and other economic drivers.
As someone who has hired construction workers in towns without large immigrant labor pools, I'm skeptical that large numbers of native-born Americans will jump at these newfound opportunities. The incoming administration embraces the Lump of Labor Fallacy—the idea that jobs are a zero-sum game where one person's job comes at the expense of another's job. In reality, more labor spurs economic growth and business development. That's how market economies work.
But forget economics, as this column is mainly about civil liberties. Even if you face no realistic fear of getting caught up in the broad deportation net, you might consider the downside of living in a country that's been highly militarized. There's a reason our forefathers placed limits on the military's role in domestic affairs. Perhaps the administration will find a legal workaround, but this still requires more checkpoints and snooping—whichever agency is behind them.
As Reason's Matthew Petti explained, "(A)ctually carrying out deportations on the scale Trump wants might require doubling the size of the Department of Homeland Security, which currently employs 222,539 employees total." One can't have it both ways—wanting to cut the size of the government while backing a plan that requires its massive expansion.
Maybe the president-elect will scale back the proposal, but history suggests that Americans ought to prepare for the worst-case scenario.
This column was first published in The Orange County Register.
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Weird how these regime libertarians always align with the far left isn’t it?
Weird how these SORE-IN-THE-CUNT cuntsorevaturds ALWAYS lust for a LARGER Government Almighty, and MORE AND MORE punishment, punishment, and more punishment!
(And they can NEVER imagine that a LARGER Government Almighty could EVER be used against them!)
They will never admit how the taxes taken to fund, and the crimes citizens have to live with are violations of liberty. Or the fact this is done against the wishes of citizens based on polling.
Apparently at reason rights include free taxpayer cash and allowing foreigners to violate any laws they want.
Mass DeportationsOpen Borders Are Bad for Everyone's LibertyFIFY
The inverse of his premise makes much more sense and is the precondition that warrants the actions he opposes.
Pretty much. You can have open borders, but then you can't have a welfare state or democratic elections, at least not if you want your country to stay your country.
The government flew them in on our money, put them up in hotels on our dime, inflates our currency while suppressing our wages, and ballot-harvests the foreign criminal scum, while letting them rape, rob, and kill us, and then acts like actual US citizens are a bunch of waaaaacist meanie pants for complaining about it.
So frankly, yeah, fuck 'em. Deport them all. Deport the people who brought them. Deport the people who advocate for them. Deport the people who suggest in the slightest the current system is actually working. I've got 70-80% of America on my side on this, and even a slim majority (or maybe plurality, I forget) of *Democrats* now favor 'Deportation First.'
I'd happily triple LEGAL immigration on two conditions: one, we only import for the jobs we actually have a labor shortage in (such as qualified doctors and nurses), and two, ZERO amnesty and ZERO tolerance for any immigration fuckery. Cheat in any way (enter illegally, vote illegally, whatever), and you're banned from re-entry for life.
Also 'birthright citizenship' is NOT necessarily a Constitutional mandate -- it's merely a tradition. The clause says you have to be (1) bortn in the USA **and** (2) subject to the jurisdiction thereof. We already have an example under (2) which is the children of diplomats. The question is what does the "and" mean -- is it both Group 1 and Group 2 (EITHER born here OR someone under our jurisdiction, such as a child of a US citizen born abroad?), or is it the Venn diagram UNION of Group 1 and Group 2 (you must be born here AND be subject to our jurisdiction, which an illegal's kid WOULD NOT BE) ? The Constitution also gives Congress the power to establish a "Uniform Law of Naturalization and Immigration," and this was NOT explicitly repealed by the 14th. I, and everyone from the 1860s would argue, it is the second clause. Yes, there is Wong Kim Ark but those were LEGAL. PERMANENT. RESIDENTS. That is, they had a status in the USA which put them under our "jurisdiction." The opinion itself was terrible nonsense, but would still be technically correct based on my interpretation of the 14A.
I am aware of NO case law that has adjudicated whether or not an illegal's kid gets citizenship. This is probably because few people or entities would be considered to have standing to bring it. The best bet would probably be a state suing another state for issuing a birth certificate to an illegal-born child, but with the incredibly stupid, anti-American ruling that illegals count for census purposes (kind of like when nonvoting slaves counted as 3/5... should we give the illegals a fractional "weight" too if we're doing this now??), I'm not sure what the complaint could be (normally I'd say giving a state extra electors).
Invasion has undesirable consequences.
Who knew?
I'm other words "We open borders advocates have fucked the legal immigration processes and these are the reasons why you cannot unfuck them".
you might consider the downside of living in a country that's been highly militarized.
A low trust society only becomes a high trust one through such transformations.
And we live in a low trust society, we used to be high trust, but the open borders crowd (among many others) refuse to even consider the lesser reforms, so now they get ignored.
Indeed. Pro open borders folks did not want to discuss options outside of amnesty so they will just be left out of the discussions any further.
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“Now, to “protect” Reason from this meddling here, are we going to REQUIRE readers and advertisers to support Reason, to protect Reason from boycotts?”
Yup. Basically. Sounds rough. (Quote damikesc)
(Etc.)
See https://reason.com/2020/06/24/the-new-censors/
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This (above damikesc quote) is a gem of the damnedest dumbness of damikesc! Like MANY “perfect in their own minds” asshole authoritarians around here, he will NEVER take back ANY of the stupidest and most evil things that he has written!
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Is it safe to assume SQRSLY is spurging out as usual?
Fucking authorShitarian ASSHOLE is TOO lazy to read it for shitself, so must appeal to OTHER authorShitarian assholes to read it FOR shitself!
Don't know. Muted as well.
Probably his usual reckless veto.
Open borders advocates don't actually have many intelligent arguments. They force to ignore costs and negative externalities or violations of the NAP, scream racism and xenophobia, etc.
Ironically the arguments at reason on this topic are the same as found on Marxist.org.
It is funny they will have the occasional article on reducing costs, but never articles on ending government payments to illegals.
Funneling your money to illegals is the height of libertarianism, don't you know?
Probably his usual reckless veto.
I refer to it as the pants shitter's veto. Imagine a person entering a room where a debate is taking place. Lacking their own skill in argumentation and with no regard for honest discourse, they stand before the speakers, loudly shit their pants and begin flailing wildly. The audience flees in fear of becoming befouled. The participants must either flee themselves, or stop to berate the shitter. All argument is mooted.
A heckler can be ignored, so the shit flinging is the critical step. In this case the shit is unhinged ranting and horrible poetry, a wall of noise in which the signal becomes lost. There is no point in engaging, nothing worth refuting.
In person, the figurative version of this fallacy is often as effective as the literal version would be. People leave and the argument goes unconsidered.
Luckily, we have a mute button in this forum.
All who present facts and logical arguments that disagree with MEEEEE and exactly HOW My Feelz Feels today are shit flinging!!!
Yes, THIS is a Cuntvincing Argument!
It is the spastic asshole posting, but far be it from me to read what it posts.
HAHAHAHA!
OMG, now I know I'm hanging out with the cool kids, if they get the same mute messages that I do 🙂
Mass Deportations, like democracy, are the worst, except for all other things tried from time to time.
Time to have it put down. Maybe boil it in acid.
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I declare your prophecy to be false.
Good luck finding gardeners and nannies.
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As someone who has hired construction workers in towns without large immigrant labor pools
It's clear you've run out of half-truths and are working off flat out lies and conjecture. If you'd actually hired labor anywhere, you'd know how terribly elitist, out-of-touch, and racist this makes you sound. Did you check the skulls of everyone in the labor pool to know if they were immigrants or not you lying, racist fuck?
Skin color told the tale.
You never know, they could be icebacks.
The way people who hold themselves as socially progressive embrace stereotypes if they further their narrative can be funny, 8n an infuriating way.
Greenhut is the kind of libertarian who would see a white guy building a fence between his house and his neighbor's, who is a slightly different race, house and think "That racist." Wouldn't matter if one house had a dog house in the back yard, if one had all manner of frisbees or baseballs lying around, one had a vegetable garden and the other had flowers and rose bushes, one had trees and the other didn't... all he can see is borders and races that he, from his lofty moral perch, knows to be wrong because good, non-racist, right-thinking people, don't build borders (and support the party).
I like how "construction" has now entered the realm of "jobs Americans won't do" --- ignoring that Americans do the job routinely and more want to do it.
Gardening and nannies too. Somehow, white people won't be able to take care of their own kids and food production if immigrants, as Sullum surely identifies by molecular genetic profiles, aren't there to do it.
I tried getting construction jobs in my early 20s. Couldn't even get an interview. The market was flooded with illegal immigrants who were cheaper. These days they do similar, but hire more women and minorities to be visible controlling traffic.
Immigrants make up a third of construction labor pool. I have many friends who have done it and a few who are contractors for construction companies. It shows an intended ignorance as well as intentionally lying to defend an indefensible argument.
https://research.newamericaneconomy.org/report/covid19-immigrants-construction-infrastructure/
That's the top line BTW, as the source is a lefty open borders group.
My Gardner isn't an illegal. It isn't difficult to find.
But it shows the subtle racism od urban city democrats.
I'm in the Idaho panhandle. All of the labor is performed by white boys. Gardening, snow removal, logging, construction, road work, hay bucking, etc. We don't have illegals, so we do the work.
Around Chicagoland I've known people to kick laborers off job sites and/or fire contractors. More than once I've been around a situation where firing a brown-skinned immigrant for a white guy is declared racist right up until the white guy starts speaking Ukrainian or some other Slavic language. Similarly, people like Greenhut frequently have trouble distinguishing between S./C. American and various brown-skinned Asians; people are frequently identified as Hispanic until they start speaking the Queen's English or with an Arabic accent. Then they suddenly can't calculate if someone is being racist or not.
It's like they think MLK's lessons only apply/applied to Black people.
The government cannot simply grab people off the street. It needs to follow a legal process. Every accused person gets their day in court to make their case.
OMG, illegals aren't people. They're illegal. That means no habeas corpus, no automatic citizenship for their kids, no presumption of innocence, no nothing. Just grab them and their families off the street, separate everyone, run them through a kangaroo court, and then throw them all out of an airplane. They're not people. They're animals. Treat them as such.
zzzzzzzzz *snore*
Shocking. Sarc with another leftist appeal to emotion instead of an intelligent argument. One based on a strawman demanding his opponents are racists.
Amazingly dumb and dishonest.
This must be the good faith civil arguments you keep demanding.
Show me some evidence that you and your ilk value the lives of illegals more than, say, that of stray dogs.
Look. Another appeal to morality instead of an intelligent argument.
This must be the good faith civil discourse sarc demands.
You're the one accusing others of being racist. Prove your own assertions lol. You can't. You just scream it because you can't defend your own beliefs. So you attack the morality of your opponents like a good little liberal.
Oddly enough you have literally bragged about your immorality here lol.
Seems like the person who makes the argument should be obligated to provide evidence.
I'm quite certain that Jesse and his ilk (I don't lump you in with him because you're not an intolerable douche) would give money to a shelter for pets before helping an illegal, and that he'd defend an officer who murdered a suspected illegal by invoking Saint Babbitt, like he does whenever Reason does a brickbat about cops.
""I'm quite certain that Jesse and his ilk... "'
Well you do let them live rent free in your head.
and that he'd defend an officer who murdered a suspected illegal by invoking Saint Babbitt
JesseAz seems the kind of self righteous asshole that could easily murder someone and claim 'stand your ground' to justify it to himself.
Poor sarc. Went off the deep end.
Poor, poor DLAM!!! Got delaminated and cuntaminated!!! Is falling apart!!!
OMG, illegals aren't people. They're illegal
Yes, they are people.
Yes, they are here illegally, which means their rights can be subjected to a different interpretation than what is guaranteed a citizen. How is that treating them like animals? Seems to me they accept a certain level of risk with their behavior and the consequences follow.
The problem with all of the pearl clutching is none of these 'Pogroms' have even begun and the projecting of results goes all the way to the extreme. As I recall, Trump implemented policy in his last administration that stemmed the flow of illegal traffic dramatically.
I believe what Trump is interested in doing is negotiating new policy. You can't negotiate new policy if the old, accepted policy is allowed to continue unabated. A common negotiation tactic is to throw out the extreme and work back from there. 'THE WALL' was met with the same level of disbelief, yet it had some success. If Congress isn't paying enough attention to what people are saying about what they want maybe an extreme position is a good start to get their attention.
The problem is that the point of the pearl clutching is not the supposed injustices against illegal immigrants, it is to declare the problem of illegal immigration unsolvable so that it is ignored once again so Greehut and his ilk can have a peon class of black/gray market workers to use.
Sounds like someone has the shakes this morning. You out of welfare money for booze already Drunky?
There is zero evidence that Trump intends to deport citizens or legal residents outside of Greenhut's fever dreams.
There is a lot of evidence that suggests citizens will be caught up in the mess and deported anyway, or killed. Especially if police are given more powers and immunities as Trump has promised. That's just what we need right now too, right? More police unaccountability. It's ok though. I mean, who cares if citizens are deported or killed and police become even more tyrannical. No price is too high to get those damned illegals out.
Oh really? Please show us the evidence.
RTFA
That's not evidence. It is projection based on a belief, not evidence.
No wonder you have difficulty making an intelligent argument.
So provide your evidence. You claimed there was a lot. Why can you never back up your arguments? Are you that unintelligent?
Accusations cuntcerning "projection"... From THE Monstrous Master of Monstrous Projection!!!
Trump has said that police require complete immunity from civil and criminal law in order to round up illegals. When faced with absolutely no consequences for their actions, they will abuse this power. They will falsely arrest people like they do now, only it will be worse because they will have total immunity. You support this because you defend everything Trump wants. Therefore you want innocent people to be arrested and deported for pissing off the police, and you will attack and belittle anyone who finds that to be disturbing, like you are doing right now.
""Trump has said that police require complete immunity from civil and criminal law in order to round up illegals. ""
And you believe him?
You do know that's not for Trump to decide right?
Actually, they don't. They can follow current law and round up illegals. There is likely not going to be this big manhunt like liberals and you believe. What happens to you if you fail to go to court? Warrant issued, they may or may not knock on your door. They may wait until you have an interaction with law enforcement that looks you up, sees the warrant in the system and takes you into custody. Many of them skipped out on their court data.
You can collect them as you find them.
Besides there is not enough manpower to execute removals on the scale liberals are crying about. But liberals seem bad about creating a boogie man for them to fear.
Unfortunately we have to put up with Sarc’s moronic drunken ravings anyway.
I know a girl that was crying because Trump is going to round women up to control their bodies. I wish I was joking. I can't believe people have created these scenarios in their heads for something to fear.
We have been here before.
https://www.uphe.com/movies/born-in-east-la
Lol. Ok, Karen.
Are you OK with Government Almighty shooting ten thousand bullets at YOU (or at illegal sub-humans standing right next to You), so long ass Government Almighty does SNOT intend to hit YOU?
Again with the scare tactics Greenhut. "Citizens were deported 70 years ago, oh noes!"
If you believe in property rights and the sovereignty of nations, then this is a simple, simple thing. If you don't have the express permission of the US government to enter the country (whether via Green Card, visa, or whatever) you have no right to be here. Yes, everyone receives due process, but you don't get turned loose inside the country while waiting for a hearing, just like you don't get to keep the car you stole while you're waiting for a court date.
If you believe in property rights and the sovereignty of nations, then this is a simple, simple thing.
Not *just* those things either. If you actually believe in culture and diversity and innovation then mutual or reciprocal respect and objectivity is an obvious necessity. A necessity that you can't have without division, even if the division is only conceptual. There is no mutual respect or culture or diversity or innovation in an all-assimilating, homogeneous, hive.
If you actually believe in culture and diversity and innovation
Well, two out of three ain't bad. I believe in culture and innovation. I don't see what diversity has to do with that.
Notice they don't give the actual numbers wrongly rounded up or if they were released once the error was found out. They rely on a false arrest, something that happens often in criminal sweeps, and says illegals need to be immune from it.
It isn't hard to prove you're a citizen. If a citizen was worried about it they could petition the hospital they were born at for a city certificate, ask for a new SSN card, get a passport or many other options.
This is bordering on minorities are too stupid to do common things. True racism.
"This is bordering on minorities are too stupid to do common things. True racism."
Like the racist fallacy that minorities are too stupid or lazy to get a photo ID to vote.
There’s literally something to pick apart in every paragraph of this article. It’s clear that the writer doesn’t believe his own bullshit anymore and is just phoning it in.
Maybe assign this hack the crossword puzzles.
A Reasn crossword puzzle might be entertaining.
"Mass Deportations Are Bad for Everyone's Liberty"
Hint for Greenhut and other lying piles of shit: Hide the lying a bit, don't put it in the headline.
Jocelyn Nungaray would have found her liberty increased by a bit of deportation.
With 600,000 illegals in the criminal justice system and over 1.4 million illegals with deportation orders for failed asylum attempts, due process has already occurred for over 2 million potential deportees? Likely none or few of them are in the employment ranks, or if so, not for very long and will not be missed.
What's up with the scare tactics?
"Likely none or few of them are in the employment ranks..."
Citation please! Besides citing the Amphibian People, I mean...
Likely haters just wanna hate...
Meh, who cares. I'm blonde-haired and blue-eyed with an Anglo-saxon name. I won't be harassed for my papers.
https://encyclopedia.ushmm.org/content/en/article/martin-niemoeller-first-they-came-for-the-socialists
First they came for the socialists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a socialist.
Then they came for the trade unionists, and I did not speak out—because I was not a trade unionist.
Then they came for the Jews, and I did not speak out—because I was not a Jew.
Then they came for me—and there was no one left to speak for me.
—Martin Niemöller
I have zero fucks left to give about anyone else really. Tickey, tickey, tasket. Time to burn the casket. Time to burn this motherfucker down
Yes, seeing ass to how humans are an invasive species everywhere except for Africa, ALL of the immigrant-haters and invasive-species haters (NOT being hypocrites) should ALL head back to Africa RIGHT NOW! You first, unless ye are a hypocrite!
Wow did you think that up all by yourself? You have to come out of your basement for them to care if you had papers.
Funny that Latinos want the deplorations. I guess they live in fear of having papers checked.
The forced removal of Mexicans in the 1930s is shocking, but, well, it wasn't a New Deal program. The links you give inform us that it was started by the Hoover administration, and for the most part it occurred at the state and local level in California. I know you Reasonettes try to blame the New Deal for everything, but you ought to read the stuff you link to before reading it. If only you were as well informed as your sources!
Hey, Greenhut, what's a nation? And what do borders signify?
ps. A reminder that your answers are not binding on the rest of us.
Haven't you heard? Our borders should be abolished. Syria's borders, on the other hand, are sacrosanct.
Except with we annexed Canada. He would than scream about borders
Except with we annexed Canada?
When DID we annex Canada? Except when One-Punch She-Male did SNOT act ALL punch-drunk? And when was THAT, if ever, pray tell?
"As someone who has hired construction workers in towns without large immigrant labor pools."
And there it is. Someone has to trim the hedges!
Here's the kicker, a LEGAL immigrant can still trim your hedges. Crazy I know!
And a LEGAL Special-Ed teacher (ass promised) can turn ALL of our Down's Syndrome kids into competent rocket scientists and brain surgeons! So long ass we TRUST in them, send them MORE tax money, AND they (teachers and preachers) have their PROPER papers... To include degrees, credentials, licenses, AND (lest we forget) citizenshit papers!!! Crazy I know!
Soooo... Papers Please, "free" (butt snot fee-free) "Shitizen" of USA Government Almighty!!!
(Government Almighty "Servants" (Serpents?) NEED those "Papers Please" to blow Their Boogers upon... Lest they blow them upon THEE!!! WHO do the Boogers Blow upon, My Fiend... Don't ask... They blow upon THEE!!!)
At the very least, round up all the Venezuelan gang bangers and toss them into a prison, preferably an old abandoned prison. Then someone can decide whether to return them to Venezuela or just exterminate the lot of them.
Next, go after all the young Chinese males of military age or are they really Chinese military after all.
Someone needs to put Mayorkas on the hot seat concerning the 350,00 missing children.
Say what Morky?
Defund and disband FEMA.
Instead of mass deportations, build housing for the illegals and send them to such welcoming, tolerant and understanding communities such as Rehoboth Beach, DE and Martha's Vineyard, Beverly Hills, Lake Shore Drive, Uptown Manhattan, SF, Chicago and other democrat-run towns...and while you're at it, send all the mentally ill and the homeless to these places as well.
I'm sure the citizens there will be more than understanding once they're overrun by these less fortunate people.
They’re in Chicago. The locals don’t seem to like the leftist mayor seizing property (raising property taxes) for the trust fund libertarians /lefties toilet scrubbers and family trust ROI.
Oh no deporting 1 million illegals who are criminals, who have deportation orders but ignore them, will wreck the country
"Our Constitution upholds due process. The government cannot simply grab people off the street. It needs to follow a legal process. " You left out citizens. Legal citizens have rights.
Reason, if you read the comments - this is why your donations and readership are disappearing. Illegals never do anything bad.
Legal citizens have rights.
All human beings have rights, regardless of citizenry. This is due to one's ownership in one's self, AKA individual sovereignty. This is the cornerstone of libertarianism. Our rights do no come from governments.
The problem is 75% don't believe in Individual Sovereignty.
They believe in ?free? ponies.
Sure, Sure. ...because being Gov-Gun downed to support all the illegal immigration is good for your Liberty. /s
Only 25% of immigrants even want Liberty and Justice. The other 75% are here for your ?free? ponies. Perhaps when (if ever) that changes to 100% want a *real* USA then and only then will this article not be complete BS.
“WHAT TO DO WITH THE KIDS?!”
“Ask their parents who put them into the situation! But the illegals LEAVE!”
Fuck the Marxists’ feelings. Their ideology leads to billion suffering!
Trump WAS president for 4 years. Did ICE massively raid random houses suspected of housing illegals?
Greenhut is conflating deportation and potential violation of civil liberties that may arise from massive deportation. That cops arrest moms who let their kids walk home is not an argument for getting rid of cops. You cannot condone chaos in the name of limiting government.
Listen to me very carefully - we immigrants did not vote for Trump hoodwinked into thinking that he'll only kick out criminal illegals and drug dealers, or purely due to his populism. No. They want him to kick out all those economic migrants who came here asking for asylum under false pretenses. When the time runs out of the Haitians, they expect them to go home. When asylum claims are finally denied or applicants don't keep court appointments, they expect the government to kick them out.
Trump has a national mandate - not just MAGA, not just white men. The open borders crowd does not want to accept this. They don't want to accept that Americans, while typically middle when it comes to immigration, will not tolerate the government dropping off thousands of lightly vetted people in their community without notice or consent. They want an exit plan.
Seriously, did you think Latinos would just sit and do nothing as hotels hire migrants off the streets on government dime? Yeah, they lived in the country for decades and contributed to the economy. That's why they resent migrants getting VIP treatment while they suffer.
"You cannot condone chaos in the name of limiting government."
In one sentence, tell me why the LP has become a 1% party.
Reason is a libertarian publication. Whenever an article is published here that is at odds with the Marxist MAGA agenda, the same collectivist scum show up and rip the author and the creators of this publication.
Get the fuck out of here already. Go back to your statist echo chambers.
Unleashing such force on a broad scale will not result in precise, humane, and just results.
Nobody said it was going to be pretty. But don't lay that on anyone but yourselves. You ignored the problem until it got past the point there could be a pretty solution.
Now we amputate in a field hospital and hope for the best.
You can't be a Mexican national and a U.S. citizen at the same time. Or did that 60% that was "US citizens" have dual citizenship? Sure.
From the History article: "... millions of Mexicans had legally entered the country ..." Yes, and then illegally overstayed.
Illegal is illegal. What part of that passeth your understanding? Are you that short of maids, nannies, and gardeners that you're willing to convert America into a third-world cesspool? That being the case, why not just move to any U.S. city with a Democratic mayor?
That is so incoherent ????
"Not only do the Founders’ principles confer a right to restrict immigration, they also confer an obligation to do so under certain circumstances. As a self-governing regime, America must be particularly concerned about the character and beliefs of its
citizens. As George Washington famously told the Hebrew Congregation of Newport, Rhode Island, citizenship is not a free gift of rights without responsibilities. In order to enjoy one’s natural rights, “the United States…requires only that they who live under its protection should demean themselves as good citizens in giving it on all occasions their effectual support.” Americans must support the regime and its principles. As Madison notes, however, “Public opinion sets bounds to every government, and is the real sovereign in every free one.