Is America Finally Having Its Raw Milk Moment?
Trump’s RFK Jr. nomination and another rumored cabinet ally may give raw milk legalization its biggest boost yet.

American media is abuzz with news of President-elect Donald Trump's nomination of Robert F. Kennedy Jr. to be the head of the Department of Health and Human Services (HHS). Seemingly every story mentions his controversial views on topics from vaccines to fluoride in the water to raw milk—a longtime libertarian cause célèbre. Though it's hard to envision a more unlikely catalyst, RFK Jr.'s nomination may be the final push that gets raw milk across the legalization finish line.
Until the late 1800s, raw milk was simply known as "milk" and was the only game in town for Americans desiring a delicious dairy beverage. But when it was discovered that heating up products like milk could reduce the presence of potentially harmful bacteria, the pasteurization craze was underway. Given reports of thousands of babies dying from bacteria-riddled milk around this time period, pasteurization was seen as a remarkable public health breakthrough.
This set off a wave of 20th century state and local government mandates that required milk to be pasteurized. Finally, in 1987, a federal court cemented a federal ban on all interstate raw milk sales. But not long afterward, the modern organic food movement was born, and raw milk became a cult favorite among the crunchy political left. Now, raw milk has increasingly been adopted as a sort of culture war status symbol on the political right.
"Long a fringe health food for new-age hippies and fad-chasing liberal foodies, raw milk has won over the hearts and minds of GOP legislators and regulators in the last few years," writes Marc Novicoff in Politico. In addition to its inherent deregulatory appeal, Novicoff recounts that "conservatives discovered that raw milk fit neatly inside a worldview that was increasingly skeptical of credentialed expertise."
Over the last decade, numerous states have passed laws to legalize raw milk, leading food policy expert Baylen Linnekin to declare that the "raw milk restoration is underway." Could it now be about to kick into overdrive, potentially even spreading to an overturn of the federal interstate sales ban?
Whatever one's views of RFK's potential adeptness—or lack thereof—at navigating the federal bureaucracy to pursue his agenda, he may not be the only member of Trump's cabinet to be a raw milk enthusiast. Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.), who has run a bill in Congress for the last decade to overturn the federal ban, is heavily rumored to be the next Secretary of Agriculture.
To further contribute to the momentum, there is at least some evidence that the political left may embrace raw milk again as well. Although most states that have passed recent raw milk reforms skew red, states like Colorado have seen Democratic lawmakers introduce raw milk bills this past year (with Governor Jared Polis supporting the effort). Additionally, deep-blue Delaware just became the latest state to legalize raw milk. According to the Farm-to-Consumer Legal Defense Fund, a majority of states have now legalized raw milk in some form and only a handful still ban it outright.
At the federal level, in addition to raw milk's ideological virtue-signaling appeal to GOP lawmakers and administration officials, Senators like Cory Booker (D–N.J.) have taken strong anticorporate agriculture stances during their time in office, thereby making it at least conceivable they could join Republican colleagues in overturning the federal ban.
The pushback, however, is still significant. Numerous studies and health experts warn of the dangers of raw milk compared to pasteurized milk. Data from the Centers for Disease Control found that between 1998 and 2018, there were 202 outbreaks of foodborne illnesses from raw milk, which led to 2,645 people becoming ill, 228 hospitalizations, and three deaths.
While few would seriously dispute that pasteurized milk reduces the chance of acquiring a food-borne illness, it raises an interesting question: What should the comparison point be for raw milk in terms of safety? Should it be compared to pasteurized milk, or is it fairer to compare it to other raw (or even non-raw) foods?
For instance, raw oysters—a delicacy enjoyed by many Americans that are not legally prohibited—kill around 100 people per year, compared to the 3 raw milk deaths the CDC found over two decades. A 2024 salmonella outbreak linked to backyard poultry—another legal activity in most jurisdictions—resulted in 125 hospitalizations and one death in less than a year. In the 12-year period from 1998 to 2010, the CDC recorded 1,345 illnesses, 104 hospitalizations, and 19 deaths from deli meat, while even the humble fruit salad caused 1,323 illnesses, 29 hospitalizations, and 1 death during this period.
In other words, raw milk doesn't appear to be uniquely dangerous compared to other completely legal and freely available foods but is still prohibited in a handful of states and subject to a federal ban. As improbable as it may seem, RFK's nomination—with a potential Rep. Massie add-on nomination—could be what finally breaks open the raw milk legal dam.
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Somebody didn't get the memo. RFK Jr. said mean things about the Koch Bros decades ago. He is entitled only to mockery and derision at Reason.
This is clearly the issue of our time.
Some folks really want raw bull milk:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dLF725CX4mM
It’s all fun and games until you are shitting your guts out.
There is a reason Pasteur is famous.
I will occasionally notice illness outbreaks in Wisconsin traced to raw milk. Often some well-intentioned parent who thought it was a good idea to serve raw milk at a kids party. I have no problem with people choosing raw milk for themselves or their family, but don't serve it to others.
thought it was a good idea to serve raw milk at a kids party
No you haven’t. Not even once. Nobody serves milk, let alone unpasteurized at parties. Soda, juice, and punch, yes, but milk? If you’re going to tell fibs at least be plausible.
https://www.foodsafetynews.com/2011/06/grade-school-parent-sickens-class-with-raw-milk/
You never had milk and cookies when you were little? That explains a lot.
Ideas™ !
Did you only get those at other kids parties or something? Explains a lot.
His imaginary friends drink imaginary raw milk and imaginarily laugh at his comments.
You never had milk and cookies when you were little?
All the time, you fucking loser. But I had them at home. What kind of cheap fuck serves it at a birthday party instead of birthday cake and punch?
I know your parents didn’t care about you, but a box of Oreos and a cup of milk is just sad. Probably why your daughter resents you too.
Good to remember the same type earth mother that doesn't approve of sweetened drinks is the same one that thinks raw milk is healthier.
Being as it's Wisconsin being discussed, they're probably more likely to serve beer at a kid's party. And I'm not joking. You can actually order your kid a beer at a bar in Wisconsin and no one bats so much as an eye.
But only *your* kid. You can't serve it to kids at a party unless the parents of all the kids are there to physically hand their kid the beer. And come on, even in Wisconsin we aren't going to do that at a kid's party.
It's all well and good til it's your kid who get's really sick.
Yeah, not really. Read the statistics in the article above. It's less dangerous than lots and lots of other things that are completely legal to eat.
More to the point, it's our risk to take. If you want to drink pasteurized milk, go for it. If you (knowing the risks) prefer raw milk, that should be your choice.
More to the point, it’s our risk to take. If you want to drink pasteurized milk, go for it. If you (knowing the risks) prefer raw milk, that should be your choice.
No question about it.
A White Russian made with raw heavy cream is still getting pathogen inactivation from the added alcohol. Or you can get it by milking a Moscow.
Yeah but the Caucasian is still a racist beverage.
Just ask the Dude how to make one.
It's all well and good til it's your kid who get's really sick, and dies, will they put warnings on each quarter (or whatever) saying the types of things they say on cigarettes? Do we have to sign a release every time we buy raw milk saying we release Kroger from any responsibility blah blah? It's all just so stupid.
Do you eat sushi?
Not since she stood him up three times the same week.
Sushi is frozen prior to serving in the states. For the same reason as pasteurization.
I think raw milk is ridiculous as a final food product. As the input for fermented foods, it is critical. That is how for millennia humans were able to tell whether a product had gone off with the wrong bacteria. And unknown to them how they could populate the gut with healthy bacteria instead of unhealthy bacteria.
If raw milk becoming legal adds to the supply of non-industrial fermented dairy like yogurt, kefir, cheese, sour cream, buttermilk, etc – then great. Because that will then put pressure on pasteurization regulations that hugely discourage fermentation of other foods like veggies, meat, grains, fruits, beverages, etc.
Which in turn can do more than anything to turn America’s taste buds into appreciating tangy and sour instead of pure kill-you sweet.
As an aside – I grew up overseas though I was born American. My first recollection of the US was on some summer vacation here when I saw a TV ad with some petrified mother spraying everything in a hotel room with Lysol (I think) to protect her precious kids. Very different than where I grew up where bugs were everywhere and made you stronger.
Is it bacteria genocide? Or is that claim just against jews?
Plus, if you get sick from raw milk, the hospital should refuse service.
Is America finally having it's WW3 moment?
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/russia-confirms-it-hit-ukraine-new-hypersonic-oreshnik-missile-capable-reaching-any
"Launched from Russia the missile can reach any target in Europe in less than 20 minutes. On reentry into the atmosphere the warheads of the missile reach hypersonic speeds of 3-4 kilometer per second. There is no air defense system in the world that could stop them.
The surprising and successful demonstration of such an enormous capability is a wake-up call for European strategists.
Lulled in by neoconservative talk of western supremacy and presumed Russian inabilities the Europeans were eager to connect their fate to a proxy war against Russia. Having been defeated in the fight for the commodities of the Donbas region they have pushed for extending the reach of their weapons into Russia.
The results are now in. Europe is defenseless against new Russian weapons which can reach every political and industrial center of Europe with devastating power and with just minutes of notice."
All thanks to the efforts of Joe Biden.
Every last drop of Ukrainian blood will be spilled to spite Putin.
A Stupid thing to ignore.
Ukraine is on the Doom Clock.
On Jan 21 Donnie will demand total surrender from Zelensky as a favor to Vlad for running interference n US campaigns.
Thank you Lindsey Graham’s mouthpiece.
Lol. God damn shrike. Just fucking retarded.
You bushpigs will be okay.
Did David Frum and Bill Kristol tell you that, warpig?
Either they're on the doom clock, or we all are, Bushpig. If we don't stop them, now, you're going to have a second sunrise one morning in the not-so-distant future.
turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Can you modify this to ass-wipe bushpig?
There is a great deal of resistance to raw milk in Wisconsin, America's Dairyland. I am sure the milk industry is major reason. People getting sick on milk is bad for the business, regardless of raw or pasteurized.
Personally, I would not drink raw milk but have no problem with other drinking it. There is plenty of food products that can make you sick and people should be free to take their chances.
Like cigarettes, and Covid shots, right?
I'm good with both as long as you don't blow smoke in my face or cough in my face.
nah it's my right to blow my ultra light Salem 100s in your face and sneeze in your face, that's America! Me first.
Laws against the consumption of raw milk also prohibit the import of cheese that's made from raw milk. So you can bet that domestic cheese producers will fight to keep that bit of protection from competition.
Became an issue during American urbanization associated with swill dairies that fed cows spent distillery grains. The Smithsonian had a take on this as have others:
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/history/surprisingly-intolerant-history-milk-180969056/
The Salvato “Environmental Engineering” textbook used to train sanitarians (health inspectors) weighs in on milk safety.
Not just an American problem, but a global problem.
https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitical/63-all-welfare-recipients-germany-have-migration-background
Meanwhile at the COP countries are wailing 250B a year just transferred to their countries over climate change is not enough.
We all know money is the only cure for rising temperatures.
Reason will milk this topic for all they can. It is already legal in this state - this state not being NYC or DC. It is also available if you roll your own.
Reason has gone tits up with their focus on their own personal care abouts.
It’s udder madness.
We should steer then back to priority topics of concern. They can't hide from them.
Oh here we go, Jesse trying to moove the goalposts!
Are you branding me a goalpost mover?!?
As we can all see, Jesse has a beef with this.
I don’t care, I’m not a steakholder here.
You butter gird your sirloins.
Jokes on them, I don't drink milk.
The land where you can order a hamburger rare is worried about raw milk?
If the food handling is so bad I can't have a rare hamburger, I definitely don't want to eat a salad at that restaurant.
The issue is when it is originally butchered and processed. The potential for a mechanical transfer of E coli. With a steak, once seared on all sides, the inside can remain uncooked but safe. When grinding raw beef, the surface contamination can get mixed all around. Other meat like chicken (Salmonella) and pork (Trichinosis) the concern is throughout the meat even if the muscle is intact and not ground. If you want a rare burger or even to eat raw beef, that should be your choice.
LibsOfBkueSky is active.
You can find them at the library if civil war breaks out.
https://x.com/Libsofbluesky/status/1859744577206485260
Wonder what Mike's name is there. Chemjeff probably is chemjeff.
The first one's name, "Godless Gardener".
*chef's kiss*
If it was a Bee article I'd deride it for using too many obvious stereotypes. Can't out parody the real thing these days.
Been thinking about signing up for Bluesky but I'm waiting for ENB's tutorial.
Not All Homes Are Houses
And here’s a story of the county not letting people live in the tiny houses individuals have built and donated.
- Burnsville, NC
https://x.com/wallstreetapes/status/1859465701301395856?s=46&t=u0L7QVX79aX0ztHzwUy94w
Free hotels, food, healthcare and huge allowances for illegals, but the Maui fire and hurricane victims get peanuts and can't even sleep in a shed, and then the bureaucratic state wonders why it's losing elections.
The story helps to shed light on the bureaucracy infrastructure warring against the people.
In a group that includes locals impacted by the hurricanes as well as some that volunteered. The consensus is that tiny homes are verbotten in places due to low property tax revenue that would generate.
While FEMA is saying no one is in tents, Fox News is literally talking to them.
IIRC, the reason there was so much disease associated with raw milk in the late 1800's and early 1900's was that given the lack of modern transportation infrastructure, milk in cities came from cows kept in or very near cities. These milking farms were overpopulated and had many diseased animals, so produced a low grade product. Pasteurization was thus a good way to improve the situation.
However, in the US (and EU) the dairy heard is much healthier, and high quality refrigeration is standard. The 19th Century of pasteurization solution is no longer required.
Now, regarding RFK Jr. being a nutjob..... that's a different debate.
100% this. Everyone is talking like it's toilet water, but as long as they wash the teats and use refrigerated trucks the chances you'll get sick are a lot less than with unwashed lettuce.
18th-19th Century swill dairies are often attributed to the poor milk quality of that time.
Yes, it seems pasteurization is a last-minute save to make up for microbiologic sloppiness at the previous steps in production. The same may be on its way for eggs now with factory production encouraging use of antibiotics.
"How Trump's FCC chief pick could make life more difficult for media companies"
[...]
"President-elect Trump’s nomination of Brendan Carr as the next chairman of the Federal Communications Commission is bringing both hope and fear to the media industry.
For media executives, the hope comes in the promise of industry consolidation.
[...]
Carr got the industry’s attention again on Tuesday when he told Fox News that his recommendation on the Paramount Global merger with Skydance Media would consider recent accusations from Trump's camp that CBS News edited its “60 Minutes” interview with Harris to make her sound more coherent.
“That news distortion complaint over the CBS ‘60 Minutes’ transcript is something that's likely to arise in the context of the FCC's review of that transaction,” Carr said..."
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/how-trumps-fcc-chief-pick-could-make-life-more-difficult-for-media-companies/ar-AA1uwg3l?ocid=BingNewsSerp
Gee, griping that a "news outlet" edits vid to promote a favored candidate? All they had to do was run a scroll:
"This video has been edited to make Harris look like a cogent human being".
Just, you know, be HONEST, you lying scum!
His worst pics so far is surgeon general and the labor board. The latter seems to be a bid to keep union bosses on board. Disappointed in both.
Well at least the Surgeon General pick is an authentic MD.
With Donnie you might get anything. Dr. Phil had been mentioned because he supported Donnie.
Just killing you that the neo-cons aren't getting picked, huh?
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
You can't kill a clump of cells.
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/11/23/french-government-declares-that-abortion-cannot-be-called-a-cause-of-death-in-latest-free-speech-crackdown/#more-225721
French Government Declares that Abortion Cannot Be Called a “Cause of Death” in Free Speech Crackdown
"Christine Pelosi is part of a small army of ballot ‘curers’ in wildly close California House race"
https://www.sfchronicle.com/politics/article/ballot-curing-christine-pelosi-california-19932744.php
Did you know a ballot could be "ill"? Hey, it sounds much better than the "harvesting" those shits are really doing, doesn't it?
Been 2 weeks and they care claiming they still have 340k uncounted.
Takes a while to chase down someone with a similar name and make sure they agree that your choice is correct!
Just two more weeks.
I will support your cause for raw milk, if you support my cause to stop calling the variety of nut/oat juices "milk." And they both have to be stocked/stored commercially separately from pasteurized milk (they can go in the gay hippy alternative foods section of the grocery store, and they have to be readily identified in their use in food service venues).
That's a fair compromise, I think.
They are already at AJs and Trader Joes. So gay hippy section is checked.
No law can protect someone who is so terminally stupid that they think nuts and oats have nipples.
Nut milk is in the maneggs section.
What about chocolate? Does chocolate have nipples?
When are you going to stop milking this dispute for your own personal wishes?
When the hippies cow to my demands.
When made from rice, I called it rice water before I ever heard someone call it rice milk.
STAT Plus:‘We dodged a bullet’: Biotech and pharma react to selection of Marty Makary for FDA commissioner
....
Key figures in biotech, pharma, and medical devices appear relieved about Johns Hopkins surgeon Marty Makary, Trump’s pick to head the FDA.
https://www.statnews.com/
Whew! I'm a big pharma investor.
FDA avoided a Trump-style RFK-like nutjob.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
What's up, Peanuts?
What do you think about Donnie's Sec Treasury pick? A Soros disciple and gay dude?
NTTIAW with being gay, of course. Millions of conservatives are pickle-smoochers.
Why aren’t you posting using your original account? Lose the password to it?
Left the soros plantation prior to 2020 where he started financing Trump and his allies.
https://revolver.news/2024/11/make-america-rich-again-the-case-for-treasury-secretary-scott-bessent/
Unlike the other contenders for the role, Bessent supported Trump’s immigration and tariff policy. He is perhaps the only potential player at the U.S. Treasury who could plausibly implement these policies without destroying the global trade system. If the U.S. implements an across-the-board tariff, preventing retaliation from our major trading partners will be key, and Bessent is the only candidate for the Treasury Secretary position who has given serious thought about how to do this.
Unlike much of the economic team in Trump’s first term, e.g., Gary Cohn and Dina Powell, Bessent broke with Wall Street in 2016 to raise $1 million dollars for President Trump’s first presidential inaugural committee and several million dollars for his second successful campaign. He advised Trump in the 2024 election and, it almost goes without saying, has been on the record as opposing Biden’s inflationary central planning proposals, including green energy and DIE mandates across the federal government. Because Bessent’s agenda is so aligned with the President-elect, central bankers and financial ministers regard him as a potential “Trump whisperer” to gain insight into the future direction of U.S. economic policy. He opposed Harris’s rapacious taxes on unrealized capital gains and has claimed that it would be a priority to maintain as much of the Trump 2017 tax cuts as possible.
So the opposite of your economic view and the current soros one.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. The TDS-addled turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Trump picks Project 2025 co-author Russell Vought to lead budget office
https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/donald-trump/trump-project-2025-russell-vought-office-management-budget-rcna181453
Fuck this guy. Vought is a full-on fascist and Project 2025 is their blueprint.
Democrats: "Google 'Project 2025.'"
Democrats: "Let us stay in power so we can prevent Project 2025."
Voters: "No thanks, you've sucked enough the past 3.8 years that we'll roll the dice with Project 2025."
Say Shrike, what do you not like about the actual Project 2025? Which part?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Nikki Haley calls Tulsi Gabbard a ‘Russian sympathizer’ and rips Kennedy Jr. for lack of healthcare expertise
Seriously? A Russian asset in National Security?
https://www.livemint.com/news/us-news/nikki-haley-calls-tulsi-gabbard-a-russian-sympathizer-and-rips-kennedy-jr-for-lack-of-healthcare-expertise-11732365182545.html
Would this be the same Russia that you assured us Joe Biden had all but defeated?
Russia is disintegrating. They are near impoverishment. Biden laid the hammer on them. I can’t wait for Putin to be shot in the head.
It's endlessly fascinating how eager you were to embarrass yourself on behalf of this failed 40% approval President. And it was all for nothing! Biden's own party bullied him into quitting, then his DEI hire VP lost every single swing state.
LOL
Russia's economy faces a demographic disaster and risks seeing its population reduced by half by the end of this century, think tank says
Jennifer Sor Updated Nov 14, 2024, 12:23 PM EST
Business Insider
Russian economy meltdown as inflation soars with prices 'up 65%' and Ruble plummets
A Russian newspaper warned that rampant inflation is hurting the economic well-being of ordinary Russians as pressure grows on Vladimir Putin.
By Charlie Bradley
18:37, Thu, Nov 21, 2024 | UPDATED: 20:45, Thu, Nov 21, 2024
Disaster in Russia. Only Donnie can save Russia.
Look at that 5 year chart lol.
https://www.xe.com/currencycharts/?from=USD&to=RUB&view=5Y
More.
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/russia-economy-ukraine-war-sanctions-60-minutes/
https://www.voanews.com/a/russia-economy-grew-in-2023-despite-war-and-sanctions/7478952.html
ThE wAlLs ArE cLoSiNg In!
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
"Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian asset"
I hope she sues you for this nonsensical horseshit.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
One thing should be obvious. It is none of the Union of States 'national defense' governments business. The Commerce clause was written to settle State-Battles not to supremacy the union on UN-enumerated powers. Including the whole 'healthy' socialist administration being wildly Anti-USA.
Public Citizen (a lobbying group) v Heckler had nothing to do with a justice case or state battle. It was a clan of power-mad mobsters that managed to persuade the court into dictating law from the bench.
Haven’t read the article yet, but if all we get from this administration is what’s in the headline, that’s a little disappointing. I’m hoping for a FDA that gives perfunctory permission for everything in its purview for the asking. You know, like an announcement, “All drugs, food additives, and medical devices are hereby declared safe and effective. You’re on your own.” And similarly for pesticides at EPA. If all we can do is tinker at the edges like considering nicotine vapes not to be tobacco products, I guess that’s something, but for what’s been achieved here politically it seems like less than was bargained for. Let's get while the getting is good, before the Democrats can get back in and close the barn door.
Anecdotally, I know many people who drank raw milk in villages back in the old world. They drank cow or water buffalo milk, often boiling it, but sometimes just as it came from the animal - frothy and lukewarm. I have never heard of a single case of someone getting sick. Not once in dozens of years. Maybe those villagers are more immune to local bacteria, and it's true that the animals went out to graze on the pasture land, as opposed to being fed a grain diet in the pen. These same people also regularly fill up their water jugs at local springs, and in the past used to drink from wells. Again, I never heard of a single person getting sick - although regularly cleaning wells was a process they took seriously.
Lol they weren't kept in modern industrial processing facilities either where they keep antibiotics handy at all times. But keep on drinking that raw milk, I'm sure nothing bad will happen. I'm sure all those scientists have been lying about pasteurization, I'm sure it's just Big Pasture trying to make a buck.
Of course they weren't getting sick, just as human babies don't get sick from breast milk. When you're that close to the source, there's no chance of contamination.
Humans aren’t in the habit of kicking their own excrement on their nipples.
Although, there are establishments where that act would be a hit.
The FDA also warns you on its website not to attempt to make homemade ice cream, because of the increased risk of salmonella poisoning. I fully expect them to soon warn you not to prepare your own food, because you are a dumbass.
What we really need to ban is mellons. They don't really taste all that amazing and kill hundreds of people a year from things like listeria.
Mellons can lead to expensive divorces and child support payments.
Legalizing raw milk will have little effect on the availability of it, because the people who really run our lives, the insurance companies and civil litigation attorneys, will make selling raw milk very difficult. Under threat of exorbitant or cancelled insurance policies or liability lawsuits, few producers will be willing to take the risk.
The more raw milk they drink the fewer MAGAs we have, so I say drink up boys, hell drink it all down in one sitting! Slurp all that good wholesome raw milk down and just forget about those stomach cramps, I’m sure it’ll be fine.
That will be a tiny number compared to all the wokesters dead from sushi, fugu, raw oysters, and organic vegetables.
It’s entirely possible that masking would reduce the population of TDS-addled shits like you, making your family proud and making the world a better place!
FOAD, steaming pile of TDS-addled shit.
'This set off a wave of 20th century state and local government mandates that required milk to be pasteurized. Finally, in 1987, a federal court cemented a federal ban on all interstate raw milk sales.'
That was might white of them.
I don't care about interstate. I wouldn't drink raw milk unless it was fresh from a local farm I was familiar with.
An entire article about raw versus Pasteurized milk and not a single mention of radiated food. Although radiating food is near one hundred percent effective at eliminating all food-borne pathogens and their illness outbreaks, and the industry itself is potentially dangerous to the workers, irradiated food tastes exactly like raw un-Pasteurized food; irradiation does not affect any nutrients or micronutrients in the food and is totally safe and effective for meat, produce, eggs and dairy. And yet – just try finding irradiated food anywhere in America, let alone any discussion about its major benefits for public health. So much for freedom of choice on Reason.
re: "irradiation does not affect any nutrients or micronutrients"
That is not entirely true. Irradiation kills all living cells. Yet we need some living cells in our diet to form a healthy gut biome. Think, for example, of the positive effects of yoghurt as a probiotic. Irradiated yoghurt would be just milk.
"Yet we need some living cells in our diet to form a healthy gut biome." No, this is not strictly true either. We do not NEED bacteria or viruses in our diet at all. If you can find a single scientific study that shows any detrimental health impact from bacteria-free diets, I'd be glad to take a look. Even if it were true, just use some irradiated whole milk and make your own yoghurt with lactobacillus probiotic - or buy some unirradiated yoghurt at the store.
https://www.mdpi.com/2076-2607/12/2/234
It has nothing to do with absolute or relative safety of raw milk. The elites love their raw oysters and probably let their kids lick the spoon after making cookies that contain raw egg, not to mention Caesar salads too. But as soon as RFK Jr and the MAGA crowd take up the cause for raw milk, team blue will be 100 percent against it.
Milk is white supremacy.
"Long a fringe health food for new-age hippies and fad-chasing liberal foodies"
Uh. Well that and, you know, dairy farmers and their friends and family.
I am not a fan of raw milk; however, I would hope someone only buys local and inspects the farm, cleanliness, etc. The bacteria gets in the milk from contaminated udders, equipment. Now we have to worry about cows catching bird flu though, so there's that as well. I'll pass. https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC4718392/
Dieterle's history of raw milk is flawed, incomplete. Pasteurization kills bacteria AND all nutrients. Before refrigeration milk used to have a short shelf life, but when it soared it was still good to drink, and use in things like pancakes, bread, which I preferred. I grew up on illegal raw milk/butter purchased from the farmer. No one ever got sick. I missed it when I left home at 21.
The benefactors of removing choice are the Dairy Association that lobbied corrupt lawmakers, giving them much longer shelf life, and covering up filthy processing, but ruining the milk's value. When it goes bad, it rottens, and is unfit to drink. Raw dairy is healthy, nutritious, better tasting, and doesn't lose its value when soar. Educated people prefer it. We are not trying to commit "suicide by dairy" nor are we ignorant. Thanks to corrupt law makers I had to pay triple for raw in CA. In NV it is illegal, so I pay double. I'm 82.
Anyone who thinks raw milk is a good thing to drink has worms in their brain.
As long as the medical treatments for their resulting infections aren't covered by insurance I guess it doesn't effect those of us with IQs over 50.