We Are Going To Learn More About Matt Gaetz's Sex Life Than We Wanted
Trump's pick for attorney general is manifestly unqualified for the job, even without considering the salacious details of the ethics charges against him.

The fact that former Florida congressman Matt Gaetz lacks relevant legal experience should be enough to kill his nomination as attorney general. The poor judgment he has repeatedly demonstrated, including pointless stunts and intraparty squabbles that irritated his Republican colleagues, only lengthens the odds of his confirmation. But the clincher may end up being the salacious details of a House Ethics Committee report that Gaetz would like to keep under wraps.
The committee reportedly looked into several possible ethical violations by Gaetz, including allegations that he had sex with an underage girl, used illegal drugs, accepted prohibited gifts, misappropriated campaign funds, and shared sexually explicit videos with his colleagues on the House floor. The New York Times describes the resulting report as "highly critical."
Because Gaetz gave up his seat after President-elect Donald Trump announced his nomination, the House Ethics Committee no longer has any jurisdiction over him. As House Speaker Mike Johnson (R–La.) sees it, that should be the end of the matter. "I'm going to strongly request that the Ethics Committee not issue the report, because that is not the way we do things in the House," Johnson said last Friday, adding that releasing the report "would be a terrible precedent to set."
Sen. John Cornyn (R–Texas), who sits on the committee that will consider Gaetz's nomination, sees things differently. "We need to have a complete vetting of the nominees, not only so we know that the nominee is qualified, but also to protect the president," Cornyn said last week. "I'm sure it's not in [Trump's] best interest to have any surprises in the House Ethics Committee report."
What sort of surprises? On Monday, the Times reports, "an unidentified hacker" gained access to a confidential file that "is said to include sworn testimony by a woman who said that she had sex with Mr. Gaetz in 2017 when she was 17, as well as corroborating testimony by a second woman who said that she witnessed the encounter." The file was produced in connection with a defamation lawsuit that Gaetz's friend Christopher Dorworth, a Florida businessman, filed against "both the woman who says she had sex with Mr. Gaetz when she was a minor and Joel Greenberg, an erstwhile ally of Mr. Gaetz who is serving an 11-year prison sentence after pleading guilty to federal sex trafficking charges involving the woman."
Another Times report notes that Joel Leppard, "a lawyer representing two women who testified that [Gaetz] paid them for sex," told ABC News one of his clients "was walking out to the pool area" during a July 2017 "house party" in Florida when "she looked to her right" and saw Gaetz "having sex with her friend, who was 17." According to Leppard, "both women also told the [ethics] committee that they were paid for sex using Venmo." The Times says Leppard told CNN that Gaetz "later discovered the girl was underage"—a detail that would not mitigate his criminal liability under Florida law and probably will not carry much weight with the senators considering his nomination.
In 2022, federal prosecutors decided not to pursue criminal charges against Gaetz after looking into claims involving that alleged encounter and transportation of women paid for sex. The main reason, The Washington Post reported, was that prosecutors had doubts about the credibility of the witnesses on which they would have to rely. While that assessment helped Gaetz avoid prosecution, senators who have qualms about his nomination will be applying a lower standard than proof beyond a reasonable doubt, and they are apt to consider the women's testimony relevant, especially if the House Ethics Committee deemed it credible.
The age of consent in Florida is 18, although it is lower in many other states. Even according to Gaetz's accusers, he did not initially know the 17-year-old's age, and libertarians typically would argue that his sexual encounters with adults, provided they were consensual, are no one else's business, whether or not money changed hands. But Gaetz has always insisted that he never paid anyone for sex, so evidence to the contrary obviously does not reflect well on the honesty or reliability of the man whom Trump wants to appoint as the nation's chief law enforcement officer.
Senators are also likely to look askance at the juvenile behavior reported by Gaetz's former colleagues in the House. "There's a reason why no one in the conference came and defended him" against the ethics charges, Sen. Markwayne Mullin (R–Okla.), who served with Gaetz in the House, told CNN last year. "We had all seen the videos he was showing on the House floor that all of us had walked away [from], of the girls that he had slept with….He bragged about how he would crush E.D. medicine and chase it with energy drinks so he could go all night." Mullin, like Cornyn and other Republican senators, thinks "the Senate should have access" to the House Ethics Committee's report.
Trump, of course, picked Gaetz despite the widely publicized sexual allegations, despite the other claims of ethical violations, despite his reputation in the House, and despite his scant legal experience. One plausible explanation is that Trump values personal loyalty above all other considerations, especially when it might help him deliver on his often expressed threats to punish his political opponents.
"Matt Gaetz has 3 critical assets that are needed for the AG role: a big brain, a spine of steel and an axe to grind," billionaire entrepreneur Elon Musk, Trump's richest and bounciest supporter, wrote in an X post early Tuesday morning. "He is the Judge Dredd America needs to clean up a corrupt system and put powerful bad actors in prison. Gaetz will be our Hammer of Justice."
According to two other takes on Trump's motivation, he picked a manifestly unqualified candidate for attorney general precisely because of his liabilities. In one version of that theory, Trump is trying to set a precedent of complete obeisance to his will by daring Republican senators to defy him. In the other version, Trump knows Gaetz won't be confirmed but hopes the nomination will make his other picks, including a Fox News host as secretary of defense and an anti-vaxxer as secretary of health and human services, seem decent by comparison.
Gaetz, in short, is either Trump's Hammer of Justice, Caligula's horse, or a sacrificial lamb. We may eventually find out which, but not until we have learned more about his sex life than we ever really wanted.
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Make the age of consent important again!
-some fake libertarian.
Gaetz What He Deserved
Guy who made salacious claims about Matt Gaetz is currently in federal prison for making up same claims about someone else.
https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/
https://x.com/MZHemingway/status/1858235849097252872
- In Magna Excitatio
Thanks for posting those. I was mighty suspicious of the claims just because of all the lawfare, but I had no idea how bizarre it was.
Should also be pointed out his jail roomie testified he was paying the woman accessing Gaetz.
Yeah js;dr. But Molly lays out the story in the Federalist piece. Sullum would do well to read it. But of course he won't.
Thought about dropping that in yesterday’s Roundup, but thought there would be a better place for it. JS didn’t disappoint.
Also JS;dr. And that Sullum hates him is a very positive endorsement.
Apparently Greenberg has made this "I saw him/heard about him having sex with minors" attack against at least two or three people, so it looks like a standard tactic for him.
As soon as Chemjeff took them up I knew that they were lies.
Odd how consistently that works.
The problem that you and that article both have is that there are records of $10,000 in Venmo payments from Gaetz to the two women in question.
Whether it was blackmail or fee-for-service, Gaetz was sending large sums of money to an underage prostitute, and there isn't really an innocent explanation for that.
Can you post a copy of those alleged payments?
He won't because....
The Venmo records show that between July 2017 and late January 2019, Gaetz -- who was first elected in 2016 -- allegedly made 27 Venmo payments totaling $10,224.02 to the two witnesses, who were over the age of 18 at the time.
"The Justice Department received access to roughly every financial transaction Matt Gaetz ever undertook and came to the conclusion that he committed no crime," Trump transition spokesperson Alex Pfeiffer said in response to ABC News' reporting. "These leaks are meant to undermine the mandate from the people to reform the Justice Department."
So your defense is that we can't be sure whether he paid the two prostitutes $10k in hush money because he slept with one of them when she was 17, or whether he paid $10k for sex from a barely 18 prostitute?
With friends like you, does he need enemies?
Since the FBI and another government agency investigated this claim and found nothing to get excited about, that claim is simply vapor ware.
college tuition donations
Goddammit, NO!
It's the goddam lawyers who created the fucked-up judicial system this country has.
This is like saying only cancer survivors can treat cancer. Only doctors can run hospitals.
Did you know that most states, maybe all, say that only lawyers can only law firms?
Fuck lawyers.
“…only lawyers can only law firms?”
I for one am glad that you are fully onlying this cumment!!
-Your Lonely-Pony Only-Fan
those accountant-run law firms are only in it for the money.
The fact that Jacob Sullum suffers from a debilitating case of long TDS should be enough to kill his career as a journalist.
Remember back when Jacob Sullum was writing speculative fiction on how George Zimmerman really must have stalked and murdered Trayvon Martin? He wasn't even arguing the prosecution's case. He just kept spinning outlandish fantasies of how "it must have happened this way".
Gaetz has a better résumé than RFK Sr. when he became AG.
Gaetz is a lawyer. Just sayin'.
I have no idea one way or another how he would do as AG.
Matt Gaetz is the next Jeffery Epstein. He can walk away quickly now, but the longer he hangs on the more that going to come out. If he thinks he can beat the rap, I suggest he talk to Andrew Windsor. Republicans are pretty forgiving about sexual improprieties, but they seem to draw the line at sex with underage teens.
You kinda contradict yourself there. He died during Trump's first term.
Um he's already beaten the wrap. Never been charged and an accuser in jail.
Exactly the same, except Gaetz did not own an island, fly people there to meet his harem, collect info to use for future leverage, or actually have sex with teens.
Such piddling differences.
Reality isn't all that important to a big operation like Moddles. He has important narratives to advance.
And Epstein was never nominated for AG. Gaetz and Epstein like the young ones. If Gaetz has nothing to hide he should call for the Ethics Committee report to be made public.
You’re a fucking clown. Why do you bother here? You’re just an object of derision. No one has the slightest bit of respect for you, nor does anyone find you even slightly credible.
If you ever took an honest look at yourself, you would agree with me that you should commit suicide. As you are not only valueless, but also malignant.
“or actually have sex with teens”
That part is absolutely true. Gaetz absolutely had sex with a teenager, he just claims he didn’t know she was 17.
Amazing how quickly you across blue conservatives will lie.
Gaetz absolutely had sex with a teenager, he just claims he didn’t know she was 17.
The age of consent in most states is 16. Big deal if he had sex with a 17 year-old. Even if he paid money for it, big deal. Libertarians believe prostitution should be legal, and that the age of consent should be on the low end, like 16 rather than 18.
So, on libertarian grounds, I think Gaetz is a good pick. If we oppose drug prohibition, who would be more desirable as Attorney General – an “incorruptible” drug warrior prohibitionist or someone accused of using or providing illegal drugs? The drug user/provider would be less likely to prosecute and enforce the evil drug war/prohibition.
Who would be less likely to prosecute prostitution (which libertarians recognize should be legal) or personals ads and publications like Backpage (which libertarians recognize should be legal and left alone) – some “uncorrupted” [im]moral scold, or someone who has paid a 17 year-old or anyone for sex? (Again, age of consent in most states is 16.) I much more trust the one who paid the 17 year-old for sex to respect people’s rights to be left alone than I would trust some false-righteous scold. So from a libertarian perspective Gaetz would be a good pick for Attorney General, less likely to prosecute sexual relations or personals ads like Backpage. Plus, it gives a righteous middle finger to all the false-righteous [im]moral scolds.
Are you talking about Democrats, you know, the liberals who have no problem with child molesting trannies and naked men dancing in front of children.
DONNIE ONLY HIRES THE BEST!
Tell us more about how the vote in Georgia is illegitimate because Russia called in bomb threats to black areas. That was your big election night theory and we'd love an update.
#KamalaCanStillWinThis
was plug or anyone known to plug the driver of the truck with 100,000 midnight ballots in Fulton County?
Oops, almost forgot the copytpasta!
Buttplug's favorite source Wikipedia proves his username is a lie.
8 stated motives for 9 / 11.
3 inferred motives for 9 / 11.
Zero out of eleven overlap with the 1 / 6 goofballs.
Sandy - I hope you hang around for a few years because I will be hammering these idiot misfits Donnie has stocked his pond with every time they shit themselves.
IOW you'll call out a GOP Administration when it shits the bed - exactly the opposite of your approach over the last 3.8 years.
Inflation isn't real! Your portfolio is doing great! The border is secure! The Afghanistan exit went smoothly!
#DoesntRootForATeamLOLOLOLOL
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Hey Pluggo, how's life in the MAGA concentration camp treating you? Has your mom received her handmaid uniform yet?
Sure Kiddie Raper, everyone is just quaking in their boots. Do you not understand that you’re seem exclusively as a Marxist pedophile? Every word you post here just weakens your own cause.
You, The JeffSarc, and Mod should enter into a suicide pact.
That's not true. I see him also as a Bushpig!
Tell us more about the trannies and luggage thief.
Or simply the incompetent buffoons like Buttgag.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
JS:DR
>>Trump’s pick for attorney general is manifestly unqualified for the job
list the qualifications so we can judge your interpretation.
He graduated from Florida State University and William & Mary Law School in Williamsburg, Virginia. It is the oldest extant law school in the United States, founded in 1779 at the recommendation of Thomas Jefferson.
Gaetz practiced law at the firm AnchorsGordon until he was elected to the House of Representatives in 2010.
Gates has sat on the following committees:
- Committee on Armed Services
- Subcommittee on Cyber, Information Technologies, and Innovation
- Subcommittee on Military Personnel
- Committee on the Judiciary
- Subcommittee on Crime and Federal Government Surveillance
- Subcommittee on the Administrative State, Regulatory Reform, and Antitrust
- Select Subcommittee on the Weaponization of the Federal Government
H sure looks unqualified to me. /s
I suspect he will do a much better job than the current Atty. Gen. Merrick Garfinkelowitcz and most likely will respect the Constitution unlike Garfinkelowitcz.
[Looks conspicuously in an aloof direction]
It really would be interesting to get two lists. One of all the E. Jean Carroll, Christine Blasey Ford, Anita Hill, Russian Hooker Pee tape stories that turned out to be between 100% pure red meat, libelous lawfare hit pieces and, at best, grist for reputation smearing. The other list of all the actual “The President got a BJ from an intern in the WH.”, “She got her job by giving the mayor a BJ.”, “He’s sleeping with a Chinese spy.”, “Mythical island of sex trafficking”, innuendo-and-conspiracy-theories-come-truth.
I absolutely don’t doubt that Conservatives get caught in morally compromising positions, but it seems like if they get caught more often, it’s because nobody actually cares if their opposition is completely and utterly morally compromised and hasn’t since (at least) The Clinton Administration.
the left in general just likes to say anyone Trump appoints is unqualified just based on who appointed them without providing evidence of their lack of skill
Just remember all those "qualified people that the Biden administration selected: Pete Buttigieg, Rachel Levine, Sam Brinton,
Jennifer Granholm, Mayorkas, Garland, Blinken, Milley, Austin,...the list goes on and on of incompetent, ignorant failures and morons.
Democrats did it first! That makes it ok! Fuck! Ever heard of a Kennedy?
Not a Democrat. Supports abuse of government against enemies.
What did Democrats do first, in the context of this article?
Dump sarc on Reason commenters.
Don't expect a Sarcasmic troll post to be rational.
Political prosecution.
Did illegal drugs? They found cocaine in the Biden WH!
Was left by previous occupant?
Yeah, no one noticed it for years!
No wonder it was stale.
It mysteriously appeared from out of nowhere.!!! No one knows??!!
Wasserman Schultz claims it was planted by the Russians. Or maybe it was aliens who transported it down to embarrass ole Joe.
Lol. Jacob, you'll blindly repeat the allegations of a convict who has made similar claims against others as well and call them credible without any analysis.
Your entire article is summed up as support of smearing your enemies.
It's his typical smear job. He keeps hammering home how offended he is by allegations that he admits he normally isn't bothered by. What he doesn't touch on is that Gaetz's opponents are democrats and establishment RINOs. He ignores that they have attacked him through all sorts of crooked means. Sullum also doesn't touch on what Gaetz does that pisses them off. Gaetz has made enemies by trying to hold government accountable.
I don't even know if I think Gaetz is the right pick for this position, but he does seem motivated to go after things that even a cosmotarian should cheer.
Funny how it’s always “credible allegations” when it’s a Republican (with no actual proof) and all “there’s a lot of nuance in this situation” when it’s a Democrat (and a metric fuck ton of proof).
I just gotta say it, he looks like a guy who's into some really kinky shit. I mean, you don't steal some Pentecostal preacher's hairdo and then live a normal lifestyle. Come on.
Whatever he's into, Democrats did it first and worse.
Look everyone, it’s the new Socrates!
Sarcrates?
Sucrutes.
Psarcrates
Ideas™ !
If only could have been normal, like a guy in a dress.
Or a military seargent in a dog mask.
Or like a guy that cut off his nuts, had his penis inverted into an axe wound, and wears lipstick.
Then he can steal luggage at airports.
If only he could be some fucked-up TDS-addled L like Brandyshit.
Are you trying to tell us you have shitty hair *and* a shitty sex life?
And who do you think you're informing of this?
From a libertarian perspective, who would you rather have as Attorney General in charge of federal prosecution - a kinky dude or a moral scold?
If the allegations against him are true, then the concerns in this article have merit. If, however, the allegations are false, then having someone with personal experience of the costs and consequences of false accusations and someone who is not beholden to the status quo sounds like a really good person to put in charge of a department in desperate need of reform.
We will learn even more about a crooked Florida politician with a history of false sex allegations (now serving 11 years for it, by the way).
The claims arose from Joel Greenberg, “one of the most corrupt Florida politicians of all time,”
"Among many things the former Seminole County tax collector admitted to as part of a wide-ranging case for which he is currently serving 11 years in prison was falsely accusing local political opponent Brian Beute of having sex with a minor, similar to the outlandish claim he made against Gaetz."
According to the Washington Post, Greenberg admitted to “fabricating allegations against a schoolteacher who was running against him to be a tax collector. Greenberg had sent letters to the school falsely claiming the teacher had an inappropriate sexual relationship with a student — a similar allegation to the Gaetz case.”
Gaetz revealed a letter from a jailhouse informant who shared a holding cell with Greenberg when Greenberg admitted “making stuff up about” Gaetz as part of a plan to lighten what could have been as much as a 27-year sentence in federal prison. He was eventually sentenced to 11 years for his role in sex trafficking, identity theft, public corruption involving taxpayer money and contracts, stalking, and securing fraudulent federal business loans.
The rest of the story;
https://thefederalist.com/2024/11/17/house-probe-into-matt-gaetz-relies-on-witnesses-doj-found-lacked-credibility/
It seems to me like that Mr. Greenburg fellow sure is projecting quite alot.
If only a partisan anti-GPO DOJ had not conducted an investigation already, and concluded that the so-called witnesses were too sketchy to be reliable (and only) sources for the claims against Gaetz.
Jacob, it is not wise to select a crooked DC lawyer/politician to go after an organization of crooked DC lawyer/politicians.
You pick someone who has been abused by those crooked DC lawyer/politicians.
But you know that.
^This.
I was on the fence about Gaetz, but if Sullum is against him, I'm for him.
I wanna learn more about Matt Gaetz's Sex Life. Don't speak for me and tell me I don't.
"I didn't want to learn about Matt Gaetz' sex life until I found out minors might be involved." - Jacob Sullum
The other part of this...
The ethics investigation was opened up after the DoJ said the claims were not credible. They were opened up after 2 things: gaetz helping remove Mccarthy and Gaetz trying to stop Congressional insider trading, calling out explicitly the senior R on the ethics committe over curiously timed trades.
Your timeline is wrong. The ethics investigation began in August 2021. The DOJ concluded their investigation in February 2023.
But, even if the ethics investigation really was political retaliation: GAETZ STILL SHOWED POOR JUDGMENT. Even if you don't believe the underage sex stuff, he still did illegal drugs and took questionable trips paid by donors and still showed naked pictures to others and still did lots of questionable things.
First off, the guy who made the underage sex allegation is currently doing jail time for extortion because he also accused other men of the same thing and attempted to frame his own attorney with pornographic images of children.
But lets set that aside for the moment and look at this.
"he still did illegal drugs
So did Garland and Barr by their own admission. Are you the only person on the planet who hasn't tried pot, Jeff?
and took questionable trips paid by donors
"Questionable" is a weasel word. Especially when the people doing the "questioning are his political enemies. Were the trips corrupt or not?
"and still showed naked pictures to others"
That allegation was made to CNN (lol) 'anonymously' and nobody has actually come forward and say that he showed them. It's not like it harms them to say publicly Gaetz tried to show them dirty pictures. That's how you know when a media source is manufacturing smears.
"and still did lots of questionable things."
There's that weasel word again. What were they? Why do you question them?
Obama snorted coke, what's the problem?
…he still did illegal drugs and took questionable trips paid by donors and still showed naked pictures to others…
From a libertarian standpoint, that’s a feature, not a bug . Last I remember, we libertarians wanted to legalize, and not prosecute over, drugs. If he did illegal drugs, then he’ll be less likely to prosecute drug offenses, or not be as zealous in prosecution. From a libertarian standpoint, that’s far, far better than having some “incorruptible” drug warrior as Attorney General.
Who would be more likely to prosecute prostitution or personals ads like Backpage ( https://reason.com/video/2024/10/30/how-the-feds-destroyed-backpage-com-and-its-founders/?comments=true#comments ) – a dude who shows naked pictures or some moral scold? From a libertarian standpoint, best not have the “moral” scold. Gaetz isn’t in a position to be a “moral” scold.
Here’s better link regarding Backpage – https://reason.com/video/2024/10/30/how-the-feds-destroyed-backpage-com-and-its-founders/
Who would be more likely to prosecute Backpage – some “incorruptible” moral scold, or someone who shows naked pictures?
It's my understanding that convicted felons used to be considered "infamous" - they lacked credibility and couldn't testify in criminal cases.
Why did we ever abolish that concept?
War on drugs and war on organized crime.
'We Are Going To Learn More About Matt Gaetz's Sex Life Than We Wanted'
As long as we don't learn anything about Gaetz's sex life that contradicts the official narrative.
Are we going to learn anything true or are you going to continue peddling proven lies? Seems like the only thing we'll learn is how far you'll be able to sink as a sleazy DNC propagandist hack divorced from reality.
LOL come on. Trump only picked Matt Gaetz because Matt Gaetz was a frequent guest on Fox News and on Trump's social media feed, and said flattering things about him. Probably also a frequent visitor to Mar-a-Lago.
Cite?
Dlam, it could be a tinge of jealousy that 'splains chemjeff's opposition to Rep Gaetz. After all, there is no way chemjeff was smashing babes like Rep Gaetz was during his singlehood.
Could be a jealousy thing there.
But Trump should go ahead and proceed with the nomination. If he is confirmed (somehow), I will thoroughly enjoy rubbing your noses in every single Matt Gaetz scandal when he inevitably compromises himself with his poor judgment. He will make Merrick Garland look like a saint and you will defend every last bit of it.
I will mine your salty tears when all your corruption is exposed.
Jeff’s post is questionable. His obesity not so much.
You can rub all the noses you want, provided 'Neutron Matt' right-sizes the DOJ (and FBI).
Is this like the time, right before the election, that you had the same claim, that you'd be gloating to all the Trump voters about how Chase Oliver will get so many votes that he costs Trump the election? How did that turn out?
*I would advise, if you are going to gloat, that you wait until the thing happens before announcing how you will be gloating.
You seem oddly excited about this, Jake.
You pervert.
That's not really fair to Caligula's horse.
Sullum is a hack and sarc's a drunken retard.
Did I miss anything?
Jeff is fat. And a hypocrite.
Gaetz is Butthead
Jacob Sullum, can you be more slimy reporter? RFK JR is not universally anti-vaccine as many claim, but he as the audacity to question vaccines. Pete Hegseth, is not just a Fox News host.
Considering the habit smearing people who question the establishment is quite often a bunch of lies, I'm not taking anything that the corporate media as gospel, especially considering their track record.
I don't have much of an opinion on Matt Gaetz, but it would not surprise me if the vast majority is a BS. What is amazing to me is the radical turn that Reason magazine has taken since Trump won the election.
I didn't vote for Trump and don't like him one bit, but I detest the other side which Reason Magazine appears to be headed. It's one thing to be critical, but how you are critical is of paramount concern.
There are plenty of things to be critical of any government including Trump, but play it straight and don't try to push a narrative otherwise you become a propagandist.
Using a line that attempt to make Pete Hegseth only a Fox News host, is extremely dishonest. You are stealing the valor of the awards that he has received and buying into the propagandist narrative.
My attempting to reduce RFK Jr to a single talking point is buying into the propagandist narrative.
I half expect you to claim that Tulsi Gabbard is Putin's girlfriend.
The truth is that the establishment is threatened by many of the people that Trump has picked, that the goal of the establishment is to not be questioned and to have their recommendations to be blindly accepted. This is not healthy and not sustainable.
The dirty little secret is that the voters voted against this "deep state" and Trump happens to be the beneficiary. Many of the voters didn't vote for Trump himself, but for what Trump represents. Which is not them where them is the "deep state", against the endless wars, against the insanity, against the reckless spending. Trump is not the savior, he just is a guy willing to stand up against them.
Not sure why the media is so incredibly stupid and blind to the extremely obvious. The voters said "NO", "STOP". If Trump does not deliver a return to normalcy, then the voters will will elect whomever is the change candidate.
Matt Gaetz, blah, blah, blah.
You know what? Who cares. Something that happened in the past that the FBI and other agencies have already investigated found nothing wrong.
The dirty Dems of course want to rehash something that has already been investigated in hopes of trashing Gaetz.
This is no different that that drug crazed, brain damaged woman E. Jean Carrol who managed to lie enough to rake money off Trump.
The same thing is happening here with Gaetz. It is just another hit piece being fed by the dirty Dems because after all,.....
Trump is a NAZI!
And so is anyone who voted for him.
The reality is that there are a lot of people in Washington who are scared shitless. They and those inside Hollywood are pissing their pants right now because Trump and his team are going to expose them.
Loudmouth Trey Gowdy just got shot down and that loud mouth nasty, ugly gew, Debbie Wasserman Schultz is facing some real backlash and probable legal action against her for claiming Tulsi Gabbard is a Russian hack.
The knives are being brought out but they will become dulled and rusty before this is all over.
Reason should stick to real journalism and refrain from resorting to sleazy tabloid rubbish like the Star and National Review.
Does Ruppert Murdock own this website now?
Real or not, I consider the allegations against Gaetz to be a net positive. Being attacked for consensual crimes (those who might object to his possibly having sex with a 17yo need to be reminded that she presented herself as being 18) should give him a motivation to eschew prosecutions on such charges, and instead concentrate on real crime.
I neglected to address his alleged "lying" about his activities. Whether he did engage in them or not is not my business, nor that of Congress, or pretty much everyone in the world. I have absolutely no problem with someone lying about something when it is none of their business,.
^This. Agreed. The age of consent is 16 in most states. Libertarians tend to favor the low end 16 rather than 18. Gaetz paying for sex with a 17 year-old and using/providing illegal drugs tells me he’s less likely to be a social conservative and less likely to prosecute prostitution and personals ads like Backpage and less zealously prosecute drug prohibition. For libertarians, that’s a good thing.
Virtually everyone knew that Matt Gaetz was a mini Epstein and that his Daddy's money bought his way into the House after Matty had become persona non grate in Florida.
*grata
Ahhhhhh, yes. Yet another Jake Sullum article that has immediately aged like milk on a warm day.