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Election 2024

Starlink Election Fraud Claims Show Dems Are Not Immune to Conspiracy Theories

The spread of conspiracy theories in response to a bruising electoral loss is not only found on the political right.

Joe Lancaster | 11.15.2024 1:55 PM

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After the 2020 election, then-President Donald Trump and his allies floated numerous hypotheses to explain his loss. One theory, which came to be known as "Italygate," posited that Italian military satellites had interfered with American voting machines and switched votes from Trump to Joe Biden. Though far-fetched, multiple government agents looked into it: Acting Secretary of Defense Christopher Miller called U.S. officials in Rome to ask about the theory, and then-White House Chief of Staff Mark Meadows emailed Acting Attorney General Jeffrey Rosen, asking him to investigate.

Like all of Trump's other allegations about voter fraud in 2020, Italygate had no basis in reality. But just one election cycle later, on the opposite side of the aisle, a very similar conspiracy is taking shape.

"Swing states were able to use Starlink in order to tally up and to count ballot votes, or voting ballots, in their state," claimed TikTok user Etheria77 in a video that was also cross-posted to X last week, where as of this writing it has more than 4.5 million views. (TikTok removed the original video.) Over the course of the nine-minute video, Etheria77 posits that Elon Musk sent Starlink satellite internet terminals to swing states for use with vote tabulation, a task the terminals are not equipped to perform.

"There [are] absolutely zero reasons as to why those systems were connected to the internet," Etheria77 says. "[Voting] machines have absolutely no problem tallying up votes like they have done since the beginning of time."

To be sure, one TikTok video filmed in the front seat of a car is hardly the same as a concerted effort encompassing the sitting president. But the allegation has spread so far and wide that multiple mainstream news outlets felt the need to address it.

As with Italygate, this theory is not based in fact. While Starlink terminals "were used by election officials in some states to improve internet connectivity at rural polling locations," Alex Demas wrote at The Bulwark, "Starlink is not a tabulation system and was not used to count or transmit votes in the swing states." Terminals were largely used at polling places that rely on steady internet connections to perform tasks like checking voters' signatures and registration.

The Associated Press wrote in October that "with a few exceptions," voting machines are not connected to the internet: "There are some jurisdictions in a few states that allow for ballot scanners in polling locations to transmit unofficial results, using a mobile private network, after voting has ended on Election Day and the memory cards containing the vote tallies have been removed."

"It is not possible that Starlink was used to hack or change the outcome of the US presidential election," David Becker of The Center for Election Innovation & Research told the AP.

"Our elections produce huge quantities of physical evidence. A satellite system like Starlink cannot steal that," Pamela Smith of the nonprofit Verified Voting Foundation told Demas.

In a sense, Musk makes an obvious boogeyman for progressives: Not only did he spend more than $100 million helping elect Trump, but he has engaged in plenty of conspiracy theorizing of his own. (In the final month of the campaign, Musk even promoted the long-debunked theory that Dominion voting machines switched votes in 2020.)

Still, there remains no evidence of any sort of widespread electoral malfeasance, by Starlink or otherwise. But that doesn't mean that conspiracy theories haven't run wild.

"What began as vague, amorphous claims that 'something doesn't add up' in the hours after president-elect Donald Trump won the election last week have now crystallized into an evolving conspiracy theory involving Musk and Starlink," WIRED's David Gilbert wrote on Thursday. In an article last week, tech reporter Taylor Lorenz noted that "Over the past several days, Meta's Threads has become inundated with liberal election fraud conspiracies."

"Why was Starlink allowed to count our votes when it's owner Elon Musk paid people a million dollars to vote for Donald Trump?" asked one X user, in a post that has been seen 1.8 million times.

"Musk's Starlink uploaded votes in swing states," political commentator and former George Washington University adjunct professor Cheri Jacobus posted on Threads. "Swing state voters went Dem downballot but Trump at the top? [Unlikely]."

To be clear, this is not to say that a mélange of social media posts alleging fraud is equivalent to the situation in 2020, when the sitting president and his staff wielded the power and influence of the federal government to allege—without evidence—that the election had been stolen. (Unlike Trump, Harris conceded defeat, and Biden invited him to the White House as the election winner.)

But it does indicate that the spread of conspiracy theories in response to a bruising electoral loss is not only found on the political right. Rather, it seems that plenty of people, regardless their political persuasion, are susceptible to being taken in by desperate attempts to explain or rationalize an unwelcome result.

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Joe Lancaster is an assistant editor at Reason.

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  1. Dillinger   7 months ago

    shorter article to point out (D) cries foul every time it loses.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      Funny how Reason isn't covering the illegal ballot counting currently taking place for the Pennsylvania senate race.

    2. B G   6 months ago

      The same people who scoffed at the "conspiracy theories" involving Dominion went ripshit when the CEO of Diebold said that he'd "do everything in his power" to get W elected in 2004. Use of Diebold electronic voting machines was hugely expanded after the Florida mess in 2000, mostly in response to very loud demands from Dems.

      When the inverse case comes to pass, they call it "sedition"....

  2. Michael Ejercito   7 months ago

    Russiagate was eight years ago.

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   7 months ago

      Yep.

      Also Stacey Abrams became a rockstar by claiming she actually won.

      1. damikesc   7 months ago

        And we are not actively watching PA Dems try to steal an election right now.

        1. MasterThief   7 months ago

          They succeeded in WI and NV thanks to their big city unaccountable districts. Why wouldn't PA believe their Philly operations could do it again?

        2. JasonT20   7 months ago

          How are they trying to steal it? By letting an automatic recount happen because it was less than 0.5% difference?

          1. damikesc   7 months ago

            No. By having Bucks County count ballots that they admitted, on camera, are not legal ballots but they do not agree with the PA Supreme Court so they're going to count them anyway.

            She declared that she would not second the motion to enforce the rulings “mostly because I think we all know that precedent by a court doesn’t matter anymore in this country and people violate laws any time they want. So, for me, if I violate this law, it’s because I want a court to pay attention to it.”
            --- Jonathan Turley
            https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/opinion-bucks-county-democrats-show-again-why-voters-trusted-trump-more-on-democracy/ar-AA1ucF7j?ocid=BingNewsSerp

            This should, of course, lead to jail time for her, as she is intentionally violating the law and admitting to it.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

            ^ This steaming pile of lefty shit supports murder as a preventative for, well, he's too stupid to know:

            JasonT20
            February.6.2022 at 6:02 pm
            “How many officers were there to stop Ashlee Babbitt and the dozens of people behind her from getting into the legislative chamber to do who knows what?...”

            FOAD, asshole; make your dog happy.

            1. Alberto Balsalm   7 months ago

              Wow...pulls out a comment from 2022. You need a better hobby you fucking wacko. Maybe you and Jesse can a start a library of reason commenters comments. Batshit.

              1. rbike   7 months ago

                Hold people accountable, dumbass. It is fair to make people own up to their evil statements. It lets people know who they are dealing with. Maybe if JasonT20 did not say this or walked it back, but nope, that never happened.

  3. Chumby   7 months ago

    A lengthy investigation into Starlink election fraud could be called Elongate.

    1. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      They are looking for the Hollywood connection, you know, the star link.

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   7 months ago

      Deals were made, in a musky back room.

    3. Alberto Balsalm   7 months ago

      well done

  4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

    They’ve pushed conspiracies every time they lose.

    And. Ow democrats in Congress new advocating forming a shadow cabinet. I'm sure you'll do dozens of articles on peaceful transfers and such.

    https://x.com/cerwinliveIG/status/1857215401270128980

    1. Chumby   7 months ago

      It WaS hEr TuRn!

    2. Don't look at me!   7 months ago

      There is no deep state!

    3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

      Time to get rid of the democrats.

  5. David Perry   7 months ago

    Nice repeat of the 'Trump never conceded' lie.

    Jan 7, 2021, I invite the editor to take a look at the video. Also, maybe stop lying about things that the left histrionically claims that Trump did or did not do?

    1. damikesc   7 months ago

      Wow. Even I did not know Trump conceded.

      "We have just been through an intense election and emotions are high. But now tempers must be cooled and calm restored. We must get on with the business of America. My campaign vigorously pursued every legal avenue to contest the election results. My only goal was to ensure the integrity of the vote. In so doing, I was fighting to defend American democracy. I continue to strongly believe that we must reform our election laws to verify the identity and eligibility of all voters and to ensure faith and confidence in all future elections.

      Now, Congress has certified the results. A new administration will be inaugurated on January 20. My focus now turns to ensuring a smooth orderly and seamless transition of power. This moment calls for healing and reconciliation. 2020 has been a challenging time for our people. A menacing pandemic has upended the lives of our citizens, isolated millions in their homes, damaged our economy and claimed countless lives. Defeating this pandemic and rebuilding the greatest economy on earth will require all of us working together. It will require a renewed emphasis on the civic values of patriotism, faith, charity, community and family. We must revitalize the sacred bonds of love and loyalty that bind us together as one national family."
      https://www.newsweek.com/full-text-speech-which-donald-trump-finally-concedes-election-biden-1559880

  6. Sometimes a Great Notion   7 months ago

    And every year the Earth revolves around the sun. Back Full Circle.

  7. Rick James   7 months ago

    Starlink Election Fraud Claims Show Dems Are Not Immune to Conspiracy Theories

    Wait.. wait wait wait, Reason. Wait... hold on. The Starlink Election Fraud spark is what it took to light your "Democrat conspiracy theory" brain-fire? The democrats were just the rational party of scientism right up until the starlink election fraud idea?

    Ok then. You do you, big guy.

    1. Rick James   7 months ago

      *opens Big Book of Bowf Sidez Conspiracy Theorys, immediately flips to last word of last sentence of last paragraph of last page*

      "Huh, Starlink... Okayyy, I guess they're not completely immune from conspiracy theories!"

    2. Rick James   7 months ago

      *opens Big Book of Bowf Sidez Conspiracy Theorys, immediately flips to 2nd to last words of 2nd to last sentence of last paragraph of last page*

      "Tulsi Gabbard is in Putin's pocket"

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        I remember Hillary raving about that on national television. And the democrats are even making this claim….. TODAY.

        https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wasserman-schultz-sparks-backlash-claiming-tulsi-gabbard-russian-asset

        The author’s pre one is correct. Democrats are definitely not immune to conspiracy theories…. at all.

  8. Its_Not_Inevitable   7 months ago

    "Like all of Trump's other allegations " ALL of them?

  9. Moonrocks   7 months ago

    Not immune? They literally invented the genre.

  10. MasterThief   7 months ago

    Are we going to talk about 2016? 2000? Stacey Abrams? The thesis is bullshit to begin with. Democrats have more frequently been election deniers.
    In contrast, the right pointed out numerous anomalies in 2020 (and some in 2024) that suggested ballot stuffing. They have pointed out many insecurities in our elections and most haven't been corrected. Part of the problem is that data to prove the claims were denied or there was no way to actually audit the election because the chain of custody was broken.
    I never heard about this Italian conspiracy theory and it's really weak to use that as a comparison to the far-fetched theories pushed by the left. I'd say that Democrats attempted to steal this election just like 2020. They probably actually succeeded in some downballot offices (Nevada and Wisconsin looking especially odd.) My opinion is that it wasn't successful because they lacked the cover of covid and Trump has grown in popularity over the last 4 years.

    1. Chumby   7 months ago

      Americans also lived under the Biden-Harris regime for four years. MSM told them things were going swell but they did not feel better off. Perhaps the deplorables just needed to buy Cheesypoofs in bulk from Costco.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   7 months ago

        Just avoid that super expensive spittin’ tabbacky.

  11. Earth-based Human Skeptic   7 months ago

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    1. TJJ2000   7 months ago

      LOL.. That made me laugh. 🙂

      1. Wizzle Bizzle   7 months ago

        Ditto

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   7 months ago

      Lancaster is a TDS-addled slimy pile of shit, ain't he?

  12. StevenF   7 months ago

    Democrats are the PRIMARY SOURCE of conspiracy theories.

  13. TJJ2000   7 months ago

    Now.... Lets see the contrast between mail-in and in-person????
    41%[D] and 38%[R] ... NOT ... 80%[D] and 20%[R]

    https://fivethirtyeight.com/features/what-absentee-voting-looked-like-in-all-50-states/
    In 2020 ... "Indeed, Trump won the in-person vote even in deep-blue states like Hawaii (by 71 percent to 27 percent). He even won the Election Day vote in Biden’s home state of Delaware."

    And how about that "No ID to Vote" states that literally make almost a perfect match with Blue States.

    What does the left have for election fraud evidence????
    Facebook ran ads from Russia.
    Starlink provided connection.

    I'm all in favor of getting election machines OFF the internet but where's the lefts IP-Logs showing China Connection to election machines?

    1. B G   6 months ago

      It's useful for having the machines on a LAN at each polling site, but I can't think of a good reason for those sites to be connected to the central system via internet for more than 10-15 minutes after the polls have closed, and then only to transmit the results up to the State compilation computer; that one-time transmission could as easily be done over a wireless or dial-up connection and putting strong encryption on the data packets for transmission would be trivial (the encryption keys could be distributed via USB drive ahead of election day and would never need to be transmitted electronically. In geographically smaller states, the vote totals from each site could be transported to the central state system on physical media as well, with checksum verification being able to detect any tampering with the data in transit.

  14. holmegm   7 months ago

    2000? 2016? Where have you been?

  15. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   7 months ago

    As an independent voter, who has never voted for a winning presidential candidate before over a multitude of election, I've observed reactions of the two major parties when they lose.

    I simply can't understand the narrative that the republicans are poor losers that is being propagandized by the corporate media. In my decades of experience, the opposite is true. The democrats have a much worse response to losing a presidential election and the only time it even gets close was the 2020 election.

    I've lived in both red states and blue states and typically republicans get on with their lives and democrats don't. Even when winning the elections, I find that democrats are poor winners related to republicans.

    Both parties have a tendency to overreach when in power, so as an independent when living in a red state, I tend to vote for democrats down ballot when there isn't a third party alternative. Likewise, in a blue state, I tend to vote for republicans down ballot when there isn't a third party alternative. My most common choice is the Libertarian or a libertarian minded candidate.

    As of late, truth and reality are biased towards the right and irrationality towards the left and some portions of the left are so submerged in complete delusional irrationality that independents and many democrats are fleeing.

    1. B G   6 months ago

      When in doubt, I just vote against the incumbent, personally. Usually that means voting for someone whose name I'm seeing for the first time on the ballot, especially in CA where opposition candidates (until this year, apparently) are usually somewhere between symbolic and sacrificial.

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