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Elon Musk

Elon Musk Spent $118 Million To Elect Trump. What Will He Get in Return?

Will the mercurial tech mogul put his thumb on the scale to help his own companies, or will he push for a broader deregulatory agenda?

Joe Lancaster | 11.12.2024 5:47 PM

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One of President-elect Donald Trump's biggest benefactors in his bid for a second term was Elon Musk, CEO of Tesla Motors and SpaceX and the richest man on the planet. Musk went all in on Trump's reelection bid and now seems primed to exert an outsized role in a second administration. But what is he likely to get in return?

Even before hopping onstage and declaring himself "dark MAGA" at an October Trump rally in Pennsylvania, Musk put a staggering amount of cash into the race: Starting in the summer, when he endorsed Trump after the former president narrowly escaped an assassination attempt, Musk poured more than $118 million into his own pro-Trump political action committee—an amount greater than what Trump's official campaign raised in total small-dollar donations.

After that, Musk was fully on board, casting Trump as America's last hope. "Very few Americans realize that, if Trump is NOT elected, this will be the last election," he wrote in a September post on X. "Far from being a threat to democracy, he is the only way to save it!"

But given his business portfolio, Musk had very clear financial interests in the election's outcome—especially since the president wields considerable discretionary authority over many government subsidies. In a second Trump administration, Musk could stand to exert considerable influence on government policy to his own benefit. But if he pushes Trump to adopt a more broadly deregulatory agenda, it could provide benefits far beyond just Musk's own companies.

On the campaign trail, Trump repeatedly suggested he would rescind a program providing $7,500 tax credits for new electric vehicle (E.V.) purchases, telling Reuters, "tax credits and tax incentives are not generally a very good thing."

Musk has made similar comments, telling The Wall Street Journal in 2021, "We don't need the $7,500 tax credit." In July 2024, he posted on X, "Take away the subsidies. It will only help Tesla. Also, remove subsidies from all industries!"

But Tesla is a major beneficiary of government incentives. Tesla's Model Y is one of the few E.V.s that still qualifies for the purchase credit after more strenuous sourcing requirements kicked in. The Model Y accounted for one-third of all E.V. sales between January 1 and June 10 of this year; during the same period, the government dispensed more than $1 billion worth of E.V. credits. And last year, Tesla listed certain models of its new Cybertruck at or below $79,990, just $10 below the cutoff for tax credit eligibility.

Tesla also benefits from environmental credits, which state and federal governments give out for building low-emission vehicles. "Tesla has reported around $10 billion" in sales of excess credits "since 2015," CNBC reported last week. "Regulatory credits were about 60% of Tesla's net income in the second quarter of 2024, and 39% in the third quarter. Other government rebates on EV sales represented about 50% of Tesla's third-quarter profit."

The Infrastructure Investment and Jobs Act established the National Electric Vehicle Infrastructure (NEVI) program, which would dispense more than $4 billion in state grants over five years to build public E.V. charging stations. In the 2021 Wall Street Journal interview, Musk called such a program "unnecessary." But Politico's David Ferris wrote in February that so far, Tesla had won more than 13 percent of all NEVI contracts awarded, totaling more than $17 million.

SpaceX, Musk's space technology company, is poised to benefit as well. "SpaceX has received more than $19 billion from contracts with the federal government since 2008," CNBC reported, and "is on track to take in several billions of dollars annually from prime contracts with the federal government for years to come." This amount does not include classified contracts: Earlier this year, Reuters reported that SpaceX signed a $1.8 billion contract to secretly develop a network of spy satellites for the U.S. government.

Starlink, SpaceX's subsidiary satellite internet service, has also received government contracts over the years, though not without controversy: In 2022, the Federal Communications Commission (FCC) rejected Starlink's bid for an $885.5 million contract to deploy broadband satellites in rural areas of the U.S., finding that Starlink "failed to demonstrate that [it] could deliver the promised service." Brendan Carr, a Republican FCC commissioner, charged that Starlink's application was rejected over "partisan politics," and last month, the Republican-led House Committee on Oversight and Accountability announced that it would be investigating the FCC's decision.

Meanwhile, President Joe Biden's 2021 infrastructure bill apportioned $42 billion to expand high-speed internet across the country. In more than two years, the program failed to connect a single household. The Washington Post reported in October that Republican lawmakers have "telegraphed business upsides for Starlink, including pushing for the company to get a slice of" that internet subsidy money.

Trump has indicated that he wants to put Musk in charge of a government efficiency commission, tasked with cutting trillions of dollars from the federal budget. With such a position, Musk could have considerable influence over these contracts and programs, and he may very well petition to keep or expand them. Trump even softened his rhetoric on the campaign trail in response to Musk's support, saying in August, "I have no choice" but to support E.V.s "because Elon endorsed me very strongly."

On the other hand, Musk could push Trump further in a deregulatory direction, which would benefit not just his companies but his competitors. "Elon Musk sees all regulations as getting in the way of his businesses and innovation," a former SpaceX official told Reuters. "He sees the Trump administration as the vehicle for getting rid of as many regulations as he can, so he can do whatever he wants, as fast as he wants."

Of the two options, this should be the clear favorite, allowing not only Tesla and SpaceX but all other such companies to compete and innovate on a level playing field. Musk should follow his own advice: End subsidies and favorable government contracts, and let the private sector compete.

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Joe Lancaster is an assistant editor at Reason.

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  1. Michael Ejercito   8 months ago

    Much more than Mark Zuckerberg got in handing out Zuckbucks.

    1. Commenter_XY   8 months ago

      Do you know, with Elon's money, it is worth 118MM just to see and enjoy the uber-lib meltdowns we see on X and Tik Tok. Think of the entertainment value for the next 4 years.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        Lancaster is certainly beside himself with grief that Harris lost.

        1. Commenter_XY   8 months ago

          Now that Pres Elect Trump has appointed Elon and Vivek to DOGE, I am especially looking forward to the squealing of the uber-libs for the next few years. That will be comedy gold.

    2. Ersatz   8 months ago

      Was coming here to say that! - and to add Bloomberg to the list.

    3. Rubbish!   8 months ago

      Tesla is up 50% in the past month, over $100 /share. According to the google machine, "Elon Musk owns 715,022,706 shares, accounting for 22.3% of the 3.194 billion outstanding shares as of July 18, 2024." 715 million x $100 is a lot. Add that to the fact that he now has strong influence over the White House and both houses of Congress, both now controlled by the R side.

      I'd call the $118 million (what Musk calls "loose change that fell out of my pocket") money well spent. The Dos Equis dude is marketed as the most interesting person in the world. In reality, it's Musk.

  2. Don't look at me!   8 months ago

    Meanwhile, President Joe Biden's 2021 infrastructure bill apportioned $42 billion to expand high-speed internet across the country. In more than two years, the program failed to connect a single household.

    Symbolic of the epic failure that is the Biden administration.

    1. CountmontyC   8 months ago

      And during that same time Elon's Starlink has made high speed internet available to tens of millions worldwide. Starlink was even made available to help hurricane victims in North Carolina ( whether they were Trump or Harris supporters).

    2. damikesc   8 months ago

      My stunned face is in the shop, so I feel completely disarmed here.

    3. JohnZ   8 months ago

      Symbolic of democrats in general. Another good example of such is the amount of money in the billions spent on high speed rail service in California and not a single rail was put down.

      1. CountmontyC   8 months ago

        In Oregon they spent $140 million on trying to develop a plan to replace the bridge over the Columbia River. To date they not only haven't even turned over one shovel of dirt they don't even have an approved plan.

  3. Don't look at me!   8 months ago

    But Tesla is a major beneficiary of government incentives.

    No, the customer gets the $7500.

    1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   8 months ago

      This. Lancaster is just flat-out lying because he’s mad that Elon supported Trump. It's not like Musk lobbied for or receives those rebates.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        Nor are they specific to Tesla. Although they shouldn’t exist at all.

    2. shadydave   8 months ago

      Whether he means it or not, Musk has claimed he'd be happy to have the EV tax credit eliminated as he feels it would eliminate Tesla's competition.

      1. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   8 months ago

        Yup, it was GM and Ford together with green groups that pushed for direct-to-consumer rebates because their EVs were unsellable otherwise.

        1. Stuck in California   8 months ago

          That's the whole deal. They lobbied for it, so that's how it works now.

          EVERYONE gets the credits. Tesla just happens to have the vehicles a market wants and a market for those vehicles, so of course they'll be sure to market vehicles at prices that qualify for the subsidy. It would be absolutely foolish to not take the credits, because they're there.

          Business is a competition. You have to follow the same rules as everyone else. But it is not the place for ideology. Ideological battles should change the rules for everyone, but until your competitors have to operate with the same advantages and disadvantages, you're irresponsible not to use the rules of the market to their fullest advantage.

          From a different perspective, I dislike the arguments about not participating in government programs because I find them ideologically distasteful. Similar arguments, but I think it irks me more because of how ridiculous a notion it is that I pay for things, but should abstain when they are offered to me.

          You shouldn't bitch if you put out a candy dish and someone takes a piece of candy as they walk past, you don't bitch if you give away free bread sticks at your restaurant and some hungry diner eats the bread you put in front of them. You get what you subsidize.

          1. mad.casual   8 months ago

            They lobbied for it, so that’s how it works now.

            [tilts hand]

            One level removed from or one step in turn from the government threatening Elon and "Elon didn't lobby for those tax breaks". They didn't *want* to make EVs. The FedGov, California, Washington, and several other states effectively banned their existing product line in 2035. Which is one step removed or in turn from CAFE and emissions standards.

            You shouldn’t bitch if you put out a candy dish and someone takes a piece of candy as they walk past, you don’t bitch if you give away free bread sticks at your restaurant and some hungry diner eats the bread you put in front of them.

            I'm free not to patronize the restaurant and, yeah, even if someone didn't lobby for it if they take candy from a dish that everyone knows is full of stolen candy, it's fair to say that their taking isn't part of the solution. Just because you can hold your nose, whistle past the graveyard, call it a clump of cells up to the 35th week and declare that everyone's all in this together for two weeks doesn't mean you aren't chipping in your $0.02 to the perpetuation of evil. Might as well learn to sing "Muh Privut Korporashun" in harmony with Robby. After all, what's a little bit of fascism between government and corporate friends, right?

        2. JohnZ   8 months ago

          I hear Ford is promoting deep discounts on their F150 Lightning.
          These trucks gotta go!

    3. Alberto Balsalm   8 months ago

      No, the customer gets the $7500.

      But China is the one that pays the tarrifs to the US govt right?

  4. Dillinger   8 months ago

    what did that canoe Fuckerberg get for his half-bil?

  5. Don't look at me!   8 months ago

    Tesla also benefits from environmental credits, which state and federal governments give out for building low-emission vehicles.

    Nothing preventing any other auto manufacturers from doing the same.

  6. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   8 months ago

    Free speech and less regulatory suppression, Joe. That’s all.

    Elon is unique in that he’s way too aspie to care about money.

    Instead he wants to build the same stuff any kid would want: giant spaceships to Mars, lightening fast bulletproof trucks that can outrun a Lamborghini, an online platform he can shitpost on without being censored, humanoid robots, a chip in your brain you can talk to a computer with, a way to pay online without using a credit card, a tube you can travel in between cities in, a massive tunnel digging robot, a flamethrower for the home, a worldwide satellite network that lets you use your phone anywhere on earth, a nationwide network of EV superchargers, plus he had a hand in creating ChatGPT and now Grok.

    He isn’t going the traditional CEO route of making money by saving $20 million by switching from aluminum to paper widgets and cost cutting the engineering department down.

    The reason he cofounds you guys is he doesn’t want a big house and a yacht and a seat at Davos, he just wants cool stuff and will do anything to get it. He sleeps on a mattress on the floors of his factories.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

      This. It isn't like Musk hasn't been loud regarding the government regulations and censoring nature.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        I haven’t seen Sarc around today, is he MIA, or did I miss him?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

          He realized his fake pivot to pretending to be a moderate was easy to point out and was being laughed at.

          His claims this week have been amazing.

          Vas majority if his posts criticize with teams.
          He hasn't called for defending the deep state.

          Etc. Etc.

    2. Jim Logajan   8 months ago

      All this.
      For example: Musk once said that the imminent onset of peak oil and its aftermath was the reason he invested in EVs. Climate change was only emphasized later. Musk clearly considered electric vehicles cool tech once battery tech allowed realistic driving ranges, and any excuse would do to sell the cars.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        The irony is that what Musk will actually get a break from the Feds trying to harm him.

        1) lawsuit for not hiring illegal immigrants to facilities under ITAR.
        2) Threats for not providing starlink for Ukraine military use.
        3) multiple lawsuits by shareholders for Tesla.
        4) increased regulatory inspections at his factories.

        And on and on.

        1. Stuck in California   8 months ago

          I don't know his mindset, but I think he has gotten to the point of "I have fuck you money, therefore I want to say 'Fuck You' to powerful people."

          People threatening him is a sort of proof that he's appropriately pissing them off. And further proof of their impotence -- how do you shame someone who doesn't feel shame? How do you control someone who doesn't care what you say, and who will happily spend lots of money burn you to the ground in court and public if you try to go past idle threats?

          Frankly, it is the progressives themselves tht turned him on them. It's their own fault. He's a long time democrat and liberal -- actual liberal, like let us leave each other alone to do what we want liberal -- and the progressive left has declared him an enemy. I guess like the now branded as "conservative" Greenwald or Weiss. Turns out, people don't like being constantly demonized.

          1. mad.casual   8 months ago

            “I have fuck you money, therefore I want to say ‘Fuck You’ to powerful people.”

            Yes. This is the point where I, admittedly unstatedly, disagree with you above when you state 'Business is not the place for ideology'. Infrastructure is not the place for experimental ideology. Business is absolutely the place where you take a chunk of your 'fuck you money', say, 'What the hell.', and toss it in because there aren't other clearly superior investments.

        2. JohnZ   8 months ago

          Lawfare

    3. mad.casual   8 months ago

      Instead he wants to build the same stuff any kid would want: giant spaceships to Mars, lightening fast bulletproof trucks that can outrun a Lamborghini, an online platform he can shitpost on without being censored, humanoid robots, a chip in your brain you can talk to a computer with, a way to pay online without using a credit card, a tube you can travel in between cities in, a massive tunnel digging robot, a flamethrower for the home, a worldwide satellite network that lets you use your phone anywhere on earth, a nationwide network of EV superchargers, plus he had a hand in creating ChatGPT and now Grok.

      It doesn't matter how hard you suck his dick, you aren't going to bear his children. I don't deny the guy is an innovative magnate, but Jesus Christ is this an insane degree of dishonest retcon.

      He didn't start Tesla because of a dream of a nationwide network of superchargers or building a lightning fast bulletproof truck that could outrun a Lamborghini. He didn't found the original X.com out of the idea of obsoleting credit cards. If he did, he wouldn't have been hyping battery swapping technology, the glass on the cybertruck wouldn't have shattered when a ball bearing was thrown at it, and the original X.com would've supported credit and payment services, the way Confinity and Cybercash did, rather than banking services.

  7. Eeyore   8 months ago

    Elon did say that he had no choice. The regulatory state was threatening to make his very existence illegal.

    1. Social Justice is neither   8 months ago

      Joe sees that as a feature.

    2. Bruce Hayden   8 months ago

      The big one is, I think, the BS regulations placed on SpaceX by various agencies, just because they could. They were screwing up his launch calendar for testing his larger rockets, just because they could, and because he had had the effrontery of buying Twitter, then firing all the censors, because they weren’t generating any income, They were a-cost center, not a profit center. And, yes, their purpose in life was to eliminate what the Biden Administration considered “misinformation”

      So, the big cause was his unsuppression of free speech at Twitter, and their response was to delay his scheduled space launches – just because they could, with a Dem in the White House. Never mind that SpaceX was in the process of making America Great Again in space. They have already dropped the cost to orbit by 90%, and will likely reduce them significantly more with his Heavy and Super Heavy rockets. All the Dems needed to do was just stand to the side, and he would have taken all the risks and done all the work. And they couldn’t do even that. Their petty harassment was threatening his ability to get our species permanently into space. Just because they could, and because he had fired all of the censors at Twitter.

      Probably mainly through SpaceX, but also maybe StarLink, it is estimated that he could top a $trillion$ in net worth by 2030 or so. The slur of aelersting his test launch schedule by even a month or two may be worth far more than the $100m he spent on the election.

  8. VULGAR MADMAN   8 months ago

    What will he get in return? Maybe get a vindictive leftist government off his back?

  9. Chumby   8 months ago

    The Kamala campaign spent over $1 billion and lost. The strategic and reluctant votes coming from Reason editors was for naught.

    1. Don't look at me!   8 months ago

      That was in 3 months. How much could she spend in 4 years?

      1. Eeyore   8 months ago

        She would have ballooned the national debt to at least $50 trillion in 4 years.

        1. JohnZ   8 months ago

          If we even lasted that long.....

    2. Social Justice is neither   8 months ago

      And that billion is before you include the value of information suppression and other in kind actions.

    3. JohnZ   8 months ago

      Plus, they’re $20 million in the hole!
      How did that happen?
      I guess those shopping sprees got a little out of hand.
      I almost forgot, the dems spent nearly half a billion promoting their congressional picks in the seven swing states and LOST EVERY SINGLE ONE!

  10. Longtobefree   8 months ago

    A new record for Joe.
    Usually I read the headline and the sub-head, then jump to the comments where there might be a few rational thoughts.
    This time I could only get in the headline - - - - - - - - -

    (I wonder if he is the one that started the fiction Elon used Starlink to change all the votes from what's-her-name to Trump?)

    Fun fact: The spellchecker claims that Starlink is not a word.

  11. LIBtranslator   8 months ago

    Since the Muskovite signed up with Christian National Socialism, Tesla batterycar stock tanked, then flatlined--almost as if the part of the population the NSAAP seeks to enslave as breeding dams were boycotting overpriced deathtraps. Right before the election a Tesla robocab killed all passengers except a female of reproductive age. This was in godless Canada--and not a whisper has leaked into Yew Ess looter media corporations. Curiouser and curiouser... said Alice.

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   8 months ago

      ONLY THING WOMEN CARE ABOUT IS ABORTION

      WOMEN MAKE ALL OTHER DECISIONS BASED ON ABORTION

      WOMEN DECIDE WHICH CAR TO BUY BASED ON ABORTION

      WOMEN DECIDE COKE OR PEPSI BASED ON ABORTION

      THE LIBERTARIAN PARTY PLATFORM LED TO THE ROE V WADE DECISION

      1. Chumby   8 months ago

        Needs a dash of Comstock and a pinch of Lizard Liz. Then perfect.

      2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        You forgot to mention ‘Comstock’ and the ‘Gee-oh-pee’.

      3. 5.56   8 months ago

        Thank you for being a wonderful human being.

    2. Mother's Lament (Salt farmer)   8 months ago

      Christian National Socialism

      Sorry Hank, both the old and new Nazis are goat-worshiping neopagan fruitcakes exactly like you.

    3. edbeau99   8 months ago

      Please try to get your facts right. The Tesla involved in the Toronto crash was not a cab, it was driven by a recent immigrant from India and crashed into a bridge pillar at high speed after midnight. A postal worker on his way to work stopped right after the accident and fortunately had a crowbar that he used to smash the back window and rescue one person from the back seat. By that point the vehicle was fully engulfed in flames and no one else could be rescued.

  12. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

    I spent a good bit less and hope to get out of it:
    1) The removal of the cackling, barely literate Harris, 2) The end of the lawfare against Trump, and have those deserving sanctioned or punished, 3) Blanket pardons for the J6 protestors, 4) serious negotiations to diminish the two current hot wars, 5) Removal of onerous regulations as possible with Congress, 6) If Musk takes the “efficiency” portfolio, some real number of former Fed employees looking for real jobs, 7) Resulting in lower taxes, 8) A blanket denial of student debt forgiveness.
    I do not even hope for the screaming, shouting and pulling of hair to diminish; it serves to identify blithering idiots:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gr354bd5_o8

    1. Roberta   8 months ago

      One of the things I'm hoping for in the 2nd Trump term is something he tried but couldn't quite get across much in his 1st: food & drug deregulation. Remember his appointee as interim Commissioner of Foods & Drugs was someone who seemed promising in that he said he'd allow a certain potential product (might've been psychedelic, I can't remember) a chance at legitimacy; but then it turned out all that meant was that he'd apply the existing rules fairly to it, not that he'd implement real deregulation; and then he was out of office soon anyway. But in his second term I'm hoping for RFK or some other "craziest motherfucker in the room" type who'd have nothing to lose and would seriously loosen things up, rubbing against statutory limits.

      And the same in other fields, I'm just using the example I'm most familiar and involved with.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   8 months ago

        "One of the things I’m hoping for in the 2nd Trump term is something he tried but couldn’t quite get across much in his 1st: food & drug deregulation."

        Me, too, and as is my MD who is adamant regarding disintermediating politicians from any role between (adult) patients and her, especially opiates for terminally ill cancer patients.
        Food could probably be de-regged pretty much instantly as that side has been a trailing indicator anyhow and should serve as simply as a clearing house for the rare circumstances where a bug gets in there.
        Pharms might take a while longer to sort out how a private actor can step in; maybe a job for a 2-term POTUS.

        1. Stuck in California   8 months ago

          So much that could be better over food and drug regs. I had a friend on opiates long(ish) term for pain relief, byproduct of a disease that required gnarly surgery, then at the end cancer. He wasn't an abuser, he actually had to be super careful because deviation or adding alcohol caused him to be dopesick. But the regulatory climate made him have to change around, switch meds, switch brands, then eventually see his doctor every fucking month for a refill. Dude wasn't abusing. Two pills a day for a decade, same doctor the whole time and they made it work. The laws and the crackdowns just made it harder for them.

          I could see a massive positive benefit from streamlining meat inspections, too. Only the largest meat packers can operate efficiently because you have to have expensive Federal inspectors on staff, all the time, and amortizing the cost doesn't work for smaller operations. At one point during the pandemic era farmers were culling hogs because pork belly prices were at a low below what it cost to raise them, but pork prices in stores had more than doubled as the meat processing plants were working flat out.

          In any reasonable regulatory environment smaller startups could pop up to fill those voids, with the lowest material cost and the highest retail costs being a huge incentive to do so. Likewise, boutique processing for farmers who wanted to raise specific types of meat and not be forced to the lowest common denominator by commoditization could flourish.

          The one size fits none approach of federal food and drug regulations are just completely fucked up for normal people at the end of the chain.

  13. Bipedal Humanoid   8 months ago

    Elon gives zero fucks what government can offer him.

    This is why Democrats will never understand him.

  14. TJJ2000   8 months ago

    How to tell you are listening to a Democrat…

    They think you’re stupid because you don’t join their ‘armed-theft’ gang. They ask why wouldn’t you support our ‘armed-theft’ gang for your own benefit? Same mentality of the biggest most destructive GANGS in Chicago only they’re after the biggest ‘Guns’ the nation has.

    “We don’t need the $7,500 tax credit.” In July 2024, he posted on X, “Take away the subsidies. It will only help Tesla. Also, remove subsidies from all industries!”

    Maybe for some smarter people … stupid is joining their gang of criminal THEFT and realizing THEFT is a greedy zero-sum resources game comprised of worthless thugs.

  15. shadydave   8 months ago

    My guess is what Elon got to witness last Tuesday and Wednesday was probably worth $118 million to him.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

      If I had a few hundred billion dollars it totally would to me too. And I would be spiking the football big time. Making democrats feel hopeless and depressed is its own reward. Why Pedo Jeffy’s ranting and raging this last week has been endlessly entertaining.

      #keeppushingJeffy

  16. I, Woodchipper   8 months ago

    At this point i dont even care if they engage in total corruption to funnel his companies hundreds of billions of dollars. It was worth it to save free speech in america and prevent that cackling communist from being in office.

  17. I, Woodchipper   8 months ago

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-warrior-board-would-purge-woke-generals-us-military-leadership

    The left melting down over this like it's some kind of Stalinist purge. Hint, they wont be lined up and shot. but yes, this is what you do with your military. You make sure the leadership is in line with your values.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

      When they’re done culling each other we should get rid of the survivors.

      No more Marxists.

    2. mad.casual   8 months ago

      You make sure the leadership is in line with your values.

      Or at least the values of National/Domestic Defense inasmuch as the CIC or Office Thereof embodies them.

      Anybody fighting to defend the notion that birthing persons are just as good as men, men have every right to beat on them in a "fair" competition, and everybody owes everybody else their monkeypox vaccines as some sort of national cultural ethos can eat shit and be thankful it isn't a bullet.

  18. DesigNate   8 months ago

    Freedom Joe, he gets freedom.

    The Democrats have been hectoring him for fucking years at this point. It was only a matter of time till they “found” something on him.

    smh

    1. I, Woodchipper   8 months ago

      They corruptly used the federal administrative state to file 50+ bullshit lawsuits against his companies just to fuck him over. It was a disgrace. I expect the Trump admin to drop them all and let Elon rip.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

        Trump needs to start suing the democrats for a whole host of reasons.

  19. A Thinking Mind   8 months ago

    I've never seen a Reason article asking what Bill Gates is buying with his political donations. I've never seen a Reason article asking what George Soros is buying with his political donations.

    I wonder what changed.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

      Reason writers pretend eyre above the democrat/Republican battle. Even though it’s quite obvious that they’re in thrall to the democrat party. It will be time to clean house once the Koch money dries up.

      1. Brett Bellmore   8 months ago

        I subscribed to Reason decades ago. These days the only thing they're any good for is that they at least don't censor the comments. Other than that they've joined the left.

    2. Chumby   8 months ago

      That’s (D)ifferent.

    3. Spiritus Mundi   8 months ago

      Or the Koch family......

    4. JohnZ   8 months ago

      Indeed

  20. AT   8 months ago

    Same thing the rest of us get. A country that doesn't suck, as its strangled in its ability to be productive and profitable and guarantee the rights of its citizens.

    Elon didn't "spend 118million." He invested in a better tomorrow. And it's about to pay off for him. And everyone else.

    You should be thanking him.

    In fact, I want to see/hear you thank him. "Thank you Elon Musk." That's all you need to say.

  21. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   8 months ago

    Maybe I’ll support him by paying for a Twitter membership. I want to like Teslas, but I despise the lack of tactile controls, and I hate the lack of a conventional dash layout. At leas it’s cheap to buy a good aftermarket heads up display.

    1. mad.casual   8 months ago

      I wish someone would talk Elon into making a steam punk, rat rod, hybrid Tesla model.

      Not because I like steam punk or rat rods but because I think Elon would miss the mark and accidentally build something exactly like what Tesla's missing. I don't want the teleporter or magic carpet ride in a car. I want the Caterpillar P-5000 powered work loader on wheels.

  22. sarcasmic   8 months ago

    boo

    1. Don't look at me!   8 months ago

      Ideas™ !

  23. Deep Lurker   8 months ago

    What will he get in return?
    Less government. Which is a public good.
    Snark from various pro-government and anti-Trump types, like the soi-disant libertarian Reason magazine.

  24. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   8 months ago

    Elon Musk is a human and has all the same human strengths and weaknesses that the rest of us do. The difference is that Elon Musk has more resources and a long standing history towards cutting out the unnecessary fat and focusing on the goal.

    Like most people who vote, decisions are made for a whole variety of reasons and seldom for a singular reason even if some reasons may carry more weight. I'm fairly certain that Elon Musk is no different in his reasoning to support Trump. The decision can be rather complex and be influenced by emotional reactions that are not readily obvious.

    I don't not believe that Elon Musk has some grand conspiracy and from my perspective, he took a huge risk with being ostracized from society. I would say "polite society", except that "polite society" has been proved to not be very polite and in fact downright sinister, backstabbing liars.

    There is zero surprise that Trump won the election, not because he deserved to win, but because the other side really deserved to lose badly. I see this a massive rejection of the so called "polite society".

    Hopefully the influences on Trump will be better this time around and massive cuts can be made to correct the current and longstanding fiscal irresponsibility.

  25. JohnZ   8 months ago

    with Elon Musk and Vivek Ramaswamy in charge of Government Efficiency we have nothing to worry about. On the other hand there are plenty of those who do have something to worry over.

  26. edbeau99   8 months ago

    I suspect what Musk is hoping for is to be left alone to get on with making homo sapiens a multi-planet species. So no more many months long EPA studies to determine whether a sonic boom 3 dB higher is going to wipe out wildlife in Texas, no more court cases demanding that he hire illegal aliens for positions that require American citizens with security clearances, no more FCC obstructionism in making Starlink available to storm ravaged communities. That's well worth $118 million.

  27. Carter Mitchell   8 months ago

    What will he get for $118 million? I dunno, what does anyone expect from pocket change? He might not even bend over to pick that up from the sidewalk.

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