Most Justices Seem Inclined To Uphold the ATF's New Restrictions on Homemade Firearms
The Supreme Court is considering whether a rule targeting "ghost guns" exceeds the agency's statutory authority.

The Supreme Court on Tuesday considered whether the Biden administration's restrictions on homemade firearms are consistent with the Gun Control Act (GCA) of 1968. As with the Trump administration's ban on bump stocks, which the Court rejected in June, the issue in Garland v. VanDerStok is not whether the rule violates the Second Amendment but whether it exceeds the authority that Congress gave the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, Firearms, and Explosives (ATF). Unlike in the bump stock case, however, most of the justices seem inclined to uphold the new regulations.
The ATF began enforcing those regulations in August 2023 after the Supreme Court temporarily blocked a ruling that vacated them. The U.S. Court of Appeals for the 5th Circuit subsequently endorsed the logic of that decision, saying the ATF rule "flouts clear statutory text and exceeds the legislatively-imposed limits on agency authority in the name of public policy."
The rule, which was published in April 2022, is aimed at banning what the administration calls "ghost guns," which are assembled from commercially available kits. Under prior regulations, manufacturers and sellers of those products did not have to obtain federal licenses, mark the parts with serial numbers, or conduct background checks on buyers. The new rule applies all three requirements to "any kits or nearly complete frames or receivers that can be readily converted into a firearm."
Defending the rule during oral argument on Tuesday, Solicitor General Elizabeth Prelogar told the Supreme Court it was necessary to control "untraceable guns" that "are attractive to people who can't lawfully purchase them or who plan to use them in crimes." Thanks to the availability of "easy-to-assemble kits and frames and receivers that require minimal work to be made functional," she said, "our nation has seen an explosion in crimes committed with ghost guns."
Whatever you make of that policy argument, it is distinct from the legal question of whether the ATF has the statutory authority to ban "ghost guns." Congress may be free to crack down on the kits and parts that worry Prelogar, but that does not necessarily mean the ATF can do so without new legislation. The agency's attempt to do so hinges on the legal definition of "firearm," which is what triggers the licensing, serial number, and background check requirements.
The GCA's definition of "firearm" covers "any weapon (including a starter gun) which will or is designed to or may readily be converted to expel a projectile by the action of an explosive." It also covers "the frame or receiver of any such weapon." The law does not define "frame or receiver." But as Peter Patterson, the attorney representing the individuals and gun rights groups that challenged the ATF rule, explained to the Court, "a frame or receiver is basically the part of a firearm that holds the components that allow a firearm to function, so the firing mechanism, the trigger and such, and the sealing component that makes sure that the barrel is sealed off so that the round goes out of the barrel and the energy from the explosion doesn't go elsewhere."
Under the ATF rule, Prelogar said, "a weapon parts kit that can readily be converted to function as a gun with common tools, often in under an hour, is a covered firearm." That interpretation seems counterintuitive, since the ATF is equating "a weapon parts kit" with what the GCA describes as a "weapon."
Under the same logic, Justice Samuel Alito wondered, would "a blank pad" and "a pen" constitute "a grocery list"? No, Prelogar said, "because there are a lot of things you could use those products for to create something other than a grocery list."
Alito tried a different hypothetical. Suppose "I put out on a counter some eggs, some chopped-up ham, some chopped-up pepper and onions," he said. "Is that a Western omelet?" Again no, Prelogar replied, because "those items have well-known other uses to become something other than an omelet. The key difference here is that these weapon parts kits are designed and intended to be used as instruments of combat, and they have no other conceivable use."
Justice Amy Coney Barrett had more success with another food analogy. "Would your answer change," she asked, if someone ordered a "turkey chili" kit from HelloFresh that included "all of the ingredients"?
Yes, Prelogar said, adding that if someone bought an "omelet-making kit" from Trader Joe's that "had all of the ingredients to make the omelet and maybe included whatever you would need to start the fire in order to cook the omelet and had all of that objective indication that that's what's being marketed and sold, we would recognize that for what it is. It doesn't stretch plain English to say 'I bought omelets at the store' if you bought all of the ingredients that were intended and designed to make them, especially under statutory language that refers to something like breakfast foods or things that can be readily converted to make breakfast."
Unlike Prelogar, I think it does "stretch plain English" to say "I bought omelets at the store" when you actually bought an "omelet-making kit." And the GCA does not refer generally to "things" that can be "readily converted"; it refers specifically to a "weapon." The ATF, Patterson noted, "has expanded the definition of 'firearm' to include collections of parts that are not weapons and that do not include a frame or receiver."
The ATF rule also raises the question of what counts as "readily converted." Prelogar said the courts and the ATF generally have understood that phrase to apply "if a novice, in a fairly quick amount of time, can easily and efficiently convert the weapon to function." Although she did not commit to a firm definition of "fairly quick," she said "the longest period of time that was ever deemed still readily convertible was eight hours."
Prelogar suggested that guns can be assembled from kits much faster than that. She said sellers have "touted that you can go from opening the mail to hav[ing] a fully functional gun in as little as 15 minutes." But as Stephen Halbrook notes, a former acting chief of the ATF's Firearm Technology Branch filed a brief in this case that shows "fabrication of a firearm from these kits is a complex process requiring skill and special tools beyond the capacity of the average person."
In addition to covering kits that can be "readily converted" into a working gun, Prelogar noted, the ATF rule says "a product is a frame or receiver under the act [and therefore a 'firearm'] even if the buyer must drill a few holes or remove a few superfluous pieces of plastic to make it functional." The ATF, she said, "is now taking account of jigs or templates, which are [tools] that quickly speed up the process of making a frame or receiver functional because they show you exactly where you have to drill in that weapon, so there's no trial and error or guesswork."
The new interpretation is problematic, Patterson argued, because the provision dealing with "a frame or receiver," unlike the other definition of "firearm," does not say anything about conversion. The ATF "has expanded the definition of 'frame or receiver' to include items that may readily be converted to a frame or receiver," Patterson noted. "'Readily convertible' is in the statute under Part A. It is not in the statute under Part B." It "would be very odd to say that…'readily convertible' is implicit in every term," he said, since Congress included that phrase in some parts of the statute but not in this one. He complained that the ATF is "taking language from another part of the statute that's not there and putting it there."
That reading, Patterson said, contradicts the ATF's prior position that "an unfinished frame or receiver does not meet the statutory definition of 'firearm' simply because
it can be designed to or can readily be converted into a frame or receiver." He also warned that the new interpretation would create problems under other parts of the statute.
"The government admits that sometimes drilling a single hole can be the difference between a semi-automatic receiver and a machine gun receiver," Patterson said. "And a machine gun receiver is much more heavily regulated than a semi-automatic receiver. So the notion that just one hole separating something from another item is somehow absurd is clearly not the case….If one hole is all that separates a semi-automatic receiver from a machine gun receiver, it's hard to see how the 'readily' standard would not also be applied there."
Barrett raised that issue with Prelogar, noting the concern that the ATF rule "on its face turns everyone who lawfully owns an AR-15 into a criminal" because "AR-15 receivers can be readily converted into machine gun receivers." That objection is misguided, Prelogar said, because "we are not suggesting that a statutory reference to one
thing includes all other separate and distinct things that might be readily converted into the thing that's listed in the statute itself."
A machine gun is "a weapon that's designed to fire automatically more than one
shot with a single function of the trigger," Prelogar said. "But you couldn't say that about an AR-15. That is obviously something that's designed and intended to be used for semi-automatic fire. And the fact that you might be able to undertake certain drilling and machining operations to convert it into a machine gun doesn't mean that, while it has this separate identity and is standing alone, it would be regulated as a machine gun."
The new understanding of "frame or receiver" is commensensical, Prelogar argued. "If you are missing a single hole, then you can clearly recognize that as an unfinished
component part of a weapon, and it is readily convertible to function," she said. "And that fits within the plain dictionary definition of what a frame or receiver is understood to be. No different than a bicycle missing pedals or a tennis racket that is sold unstrung."
Patterson offered two alternatives to the ATF's new definition of "frame or receiver." Either it has to be "completely machined," he said, or it has to pass the "critical machining" test that the ATF previously applied, which was colloquially known as "the 80 percent rule." Under that test, Patterson said, the ATF would "look at that part of the firearm and see if critical machining operations have taken place." And "as a crosscheck," he added, "there sometimes would be temporal considerations," which "were tied to the degree of machining."
Patterson is clearly hoping that the Court will force the ATF to revive that standard, which he said the agency arrived at after decades of consultation with the gun industry. But on its face, the "critical machining" test seems pretty subjective, if not inscrutable. Barrett noted that it "doesn't appear in the statute" and "seems a little made up." She suggested it is "just sort of a way of allowing for a de minimis exception."
The previous standard also overlaps to some extent with the "readily converted" test, since both consider how much time is required to transform a product into a functional frame or receiver. "Over five decades," Prelogar argued, the ATF "has always looked at whether a partially complete frame or receiver can be brought to functional condition quickly, easily, and efficiently."
In general, Patterson got more pushback from the justices than Prelogar did, and it came from Republican as well as Democratic appointees.
"What is the purpose of selling a receiver without the holes drilled in it?" Chief Justice John Roberts wondered. Just as "some individuals enjoy…working on their car every weekend," Patterson replied, others "want to construct their own firearm." Roberts was skeptical: "Drilling a hole or two, I would think, doesn't give the same sort of reward that you get from working on your car on the weekends."
Justice Brett Kavanaugh told Prelogar "your statutory interpretation has force," although he expressed concern that people might be prosecuted even when they did not realize they were breaking the law as the ATF is now reading it. Under the licensing and serial number provisions, Prelogar said, the government would have to prove "willfulness," which is "an important check against criminal prosecutions that might be unwarranted."
Prelogar conceded that someone could be prosecuted for failing to conduct a newly required background check even if he was not aware of that requirement. "Is that something the government would do?" Kavanaugh asked. "I don't think the government would be likely to charge someone in that kind of situation," Prelogar replied. Kavanaugh seemed satisfied by her assurances.
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Never really seen the reason for requiring all guns to be “traceable”. About the only thing you can find out from that is who originally purchased it (assuming it was purchased from an FFL). People with the skill to make ghost guns for the criminal market won’t register.
People with the skill to make ghost guns for the criminal market won’t register.
That is not entirely true. I know some of these people-- and most of them have jobs and families and aren't going to risk 20 years in prison to not serialize any frame or receiver they make. Yes, there's the reality that few normies who live quiet lives in the suburbs would ever get caught, but that's now how law enforcement in this realm takes place. If you get caught with one-- for whatever the reason, the penalties are stiff and most people aren't super keen on devastating their lives just to quietly give a middle finger to the man.
I live in a state where semi-automatic rifles with detachable magazines are 100% illegal. When I pointed that out here some time in the past, there were commenters who said, "Hey man, fuck the papers please bullshit man, just ignore the law".
Fuck that, I have kids, a life, a house-- people depend on me. I'm not eviscerating my life just to flout a law-- as unconstitutional as it is. I'll contribute to any legal challenges and do what I can using the legal channels, but the idea that I'm going to start milling lower receivers in my garage and not have serial numbers on them-- yeah no.
People with the skill to make ghost guns for the criminal market won’t register.
I apologize, I misread your statement here. I somehow completely glossed over "for the criminal market". Again, I apologize, and I completely agree.
It's mostly about gun registration to make confiscation easier. About the only legal value is that it occasionally identifies somebody who's been engaged in straw purchases for criminals, when several guns found at crimes get traced to the same purchaser.
Tracing guns hardly ever solves any other sort of crime, to the point where a lot of police departments have just given up on doing it.
Firearm traces of guns recovered at crime scenes are strictly after-the-fact. A crime has already been committed. And, of course, are only useful at all when a gun has actually been recovered. I think gun traces have been puffed up in importance by fictional detective stories and TV shows.
They're not necessarily useful even when a gun has been recovered. The fraction of crimes where a gun is recovered and tracing it identifies the criminal, and the criminal would not have otherwise been identified is minuscule.
But that's the only time when it's actually useful.
The question that nobody is willing to ask or answer: "Does the NSA tap into the Instant Background Check system and does it retain records beyond their statutory time limitation?"
I'll answer it for you: Of course they do and they NEVER delete the records which is completely illegal. ANYTHING that gets more people/guns into the system is feeding the beast which is exactly what they want.
Its not just tracing the sale/purchase/ownership history. They test fire the weapon and record the forensic data left on the bullet casings ...basically trying to 'fingerprint' a specific gun's rifling characteristics from the marks and grooves left on the shell/casing . All these trace firings go into a large national database (NIBIN) I believe is the acronym...so when random bullet casings are recovered at random crime scenes where shots were fired they enter those casings into the database to see if there is a hit.
Or in the case of someone caught with a gun, say a 9mm Glock, they test fired that and enter the test fired casing data into NIBIN to see if that particular gun matches any other crimes where that gun was fired. It doesn't mean the person with the gun today is the one who had it in the past crime...but it can get the police a lead. Obviously guns are bought, sold, stolen etc...on the black market and change hands frequently (especially after the gun is used/fired). But sometimes it does result in them solving an older crime if other evidence from the crime scene can be forensically linked to the person eventually arrested with the same firearm.
The problem is that bullet matching sucks. You're looking at features due to little scratches in the barrel, and those change slightly with each shot, majorly if the gun is cleaned, and aren't nearly as distinctive as shows like "Dragnet" made them out to be.
This came up when California was proposing to require every gun sold to have a round fired through it and sent in to the government. It turned out that once the database got over a few thousand the false positive rate would be enormous. And the false negative rate would approach 100% after the gun had been used and cleaned.
About the only utility it has is when a dropped gun is found near a crime, it can confirm that was the gun that fired a recovered bullet. That works because you've already got the suspect gun, and it hasn't been fired since.
All of that is true, but I'm including barrel swaps for semi-autos. After-market G19's are $40.
All of this shows the ignorance of the Chiraq lawyer.
“Ghost gun” would be a cool Halloween costume.
I love the stinger comment.
Noooo, the nice government men would never prosecute someone for a regulatory infraction that they were unaware of.....
Good lord dude, go outside sometime.
"Three felonies a day"
“Did you really think we want those laws observed?" said Dr. Ferris. "We want them to be broken. You'd better get it straight that it's not a bunch of boy scouts you're up against... We're after power and we mean it... There's no way to rule innocent men. The only power any government has is the power to crack down on criminals. Well, when there aren't enough criminals one makes them. One declares so many things to be a crime that it becomes impossible for men to live without breaking laws. Who wants a nation of law-abiding citizens? What's there in that for anyone? But just pass the kind of laws that can neither be observed nor enforced or objectively interpreted – and you create a nation of law-breakers – and then you cash in on guilt. Now that's the system, Mr. Reardon, that's the game, and once you understand it, you'll be much easier to deal with.”
Shall not be infringed.
What? Can you explain that?
No gold fringe allowed for you. Flags, yes; guns, no.
I went to the local gun show this weekend with the wife. Had a nice time and bought some accessories. I did carry in my little pistol as I was looking for a holster/trigger guard. The police officer at the door was friendly and put a tie wrap thru the magane chamber and said he would remove it when I left. I found a nice holster that fit around the laser dot sender mounted beneath the pistol barrel. The little pistol is just not accurate enough without the laser dot sight. But it
is small.
When I left, the police officer stopped me and made sure he cut the tie wrap off for me. Then I dropped it in my side pocket and we left. It was a nice afternoon.
Nice little weekend? What don't you understand about "shall not be infringed" you boot-licking commie?
Where did that come from?
I don't understand how you could check the fit in the holster with your slide displaced to permit the passage of the tie wrap through the mag well and out the ejector? Could you explain?
This article should have a trigger warning.
With bullet points explaining the concerns.
They'll get around to it some day.
Perhaps write a magazine article about it? If it's too long, it could be clipped.
They’ll rifle through the files to find something.
The Jeff ghost gun often double feeds.
It likes a good jam.
And lots of cream.
Their target audience needs a warning shot before they are exposed to the article.
How do you suck even with puns? Terrible attempt. Stick to stalking Mormons.
The shit is not even good at that. S/he should make the world a better place: FOAD, asshole.
He is the result of his father’s negligent discharge.
I admit I missed the mark with that pun
FOAD, slimy pile of bigoted shit.
Goddamn, you’re bad at this.
Shut up traitor
Apparently 60 minutes interviewed Kamala and someone was not satisfied with an answer, so they redid it. Hmm
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1843664856446316758
https://x.com/mazemoore/status/1843664856446316758
And anyone is surprised?
Did they use the assistance of AI? If so this is illegal misinformation according to the state of California.
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/cbs-60-minutes-airs-two-different-answers-from-vp-harris-to-the-same-question-edited/ar-AA1rVa9A
CBS aired two different answers to the same question in its “60 Minutes” interview with Vice President Kamala Harris, replacing a clip from the Democratic nominee that aired on “Face the Nation” Sunday when the interview package aired in a primetime special on Monday.
Harris was mocked by conservatives when footage of her offering a lengthy “word salad” that was aired by CBS on Sunday’s “Face the Nation” to promote the “60 Minutes” sit-down, when Bill Whitaker asked why it seemed like Israeli Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu wasn’t listening to the United States. However, the vice president’s lengthy answer didn’t make the version that aired on Monday night on “60 Minutes” and a shorter, more focused answer to the same question was shown instead.
> "Drilling a hole or two, I would think, doesn't give the same sort of reward that you get from working on your car on the weekends."
Sewing stacks of squares and then fashioning them into a quilt, I would think, doesn't give the same sort of reward that you get from building and launching model rockets.
Fuck you Roberts. Just because you wouldn't find it as rewarding, or cannot conceive of it being as rewarding, doesn't mean shit. Your preferences are not everybody's preferences.
Surely you're familiar with the "find it rewarding" clause of the second amendment.
Depends on who’s hole I’m drilling.
I think you are deliberately missing Justice Roberts and Justice Comey Barretts point that the suggestion that these kits are for hobbyist simply isn't credible. The plaintiffs should be arguing the case from the point of view of the intended market sector for these kits. I think arguing from the hobbyist is easier but far less credible.
From the statutory interpretation perspective, whether or not they're for hobbyists is kind of irrelevant; If the statute only applies to receivers, NOT things readily convertible into them, then the purpose for which the thing 'readily convertible' into a receiver is being purchased is simply irrelevant.
So that Roberts and Barrett care about this point does signal they're taking the BATF's side on the statutory interpretation.
So, let's go to the western omelet idea. The components of the omelet could be used for other dishes. Could the part readily convertible to a receiver be used for anything else or is it only intended purpose to be a receiver in a gun?
It really depends on how far from a complete receiver you're talking.
Your average 80% kit, admitted to not be a legal receiver until 2022, has little use in anything but a gun. I suppose you could build an air rifle around one.
OTOH, if you're talking something like the Ghost Gunner mill, that will take a blank billet of aluminum or steel to a complete receiver, and is usable for other small milling jobs? Pretty hard to argue that a blank billet of aluminum is legally a gun, but I believe the BATF does want to argue that owning a Ghost Gunner mill and aluminum is, constructively, owning a gun, even if they haven't pushed that hard in court, wanting to get at the 80% receiver market first.
But, again, the test in the statute isn't whether some object is only useable as part of a firearm. Otherwise the barrel, the stock, the trigger assembly, the bolt, the list goes on and on, would all separately be "firearms" requiring their own separate serial numbers.
The test in the statute is whether it is ALREADY "a firearm". And only 'readily converted' to fire ammo. That was to sweep in people boring out the obstructed barrel of starter pistols, and things like that. The statute was never written to apply to home built firearms, or mere parts thereof.
But I doubt the Court's majority really care at this point. 3 of them are ready to rule in favor of any gun law, period, and at least 2 more for any gun law applying to anything that makes them a little nervous.
Makes a fine paperweight. Or item for a knickknack shelf. People keep all kinds of useless pieces of metal around that look like other things.
Me getting all "truthy" about infringement on our rights and Haitians eating pets.
Fuck you Roberts, indeed.
All moot in some ways, soon. 3D printing is going to make a lot of contraband impossible to prevent, and guns of all types will head the list. Next will be home biolabs and DNA kits, but the input materials will be easier for governments to monitor.
Guns are easy. Primers are hard.
I have heard that electrical ignition eliminates the need for primers. At any rate, one problem at a time.
I think s/he meant DNA primers.
Oh? Dr. Frankenstein solved that two centuries ago.
Typically electrical ignition only eliminates the need for a firing pin. In theory you could incorporate something like a spark plug into the cartridge, but nobody does. They just hit the primer with enough electricity to set it off, in place of mechanically hitting it.
Do you men that electricity can't set off gunpowder? Primers convert a mechanical shock into an explosion which sets off gunpowder, and I thought electrical triggers just replaced the whole process, not just the firing pin. But I never did look into it.
No, I mean what I said: That actual guns using electrical ignition use cartridges with primers, and simply use the electricity to detonate the primer.
In principle you could use the electricity to directly ignite the powder, but nobody does it that way, because it would require a specially designed cartridge to pull off.
But his interpretation is also correct.
The amount of electricity required to ignite powder directly would be far in excess of that required to simply electrocute and even partially cook your target.
And, vis-a-vis, incorrectly handled, the same charge would be lethal to the shooter.
"The amount of electricity required to ignite powder directly would be far in excess of that required to simply electrocute and even partially cook your target."
You have to be kidding. You could ignite the powder with a static electric discharge you'd hardly even notice, provided you could reach the powder with it. It wouldn't be particularly difficult to design a cartridge that would be electrically primed without a primer, it's just that the market for it would be too small to justify, given that primers are dirt cheap, and cartridges with them work interchangeably in firearms with firing pins and electronic ignition.
Rifling the barrel is probably the biggest challenge to an amateur shop, but even that is more than possible.
Buying a 20G pump shotgun seemed easier and far more effective; don’t need much accuracy if a thug breaks a door to put the asshole down. And pellet holes are easy to fix in dry wall if the choke isn’t tight enough.
I looked into that. Primers aren't THAT hard. You can home brew them.
Probably the part of ammo making that is most likely to get you blown up. But, yeah, I don't think it's too hard to make the sensitive explosives. Making the boxer style primer cups would be somewhat tricky. Seems like there is probably a way to remanufacture old ones though.
I'm told that 19th century Apaches would use match heads to remanufacture primers.
19th century matches were more sensitive than modern safety matches. But maybe you could do something with strike anywhere match tips or something like that. Matches do get remarkably hot.
"I don't think the government would be likely to charge someone in that kind of situation," Prelogar replied.
Phew...
I got a good deal on the south anchorage of a nearby major bridge; don't believe those claiming to offer the whole bridge. They're liars.
Is it portable? Are the moving costs a-fort-able?
And we didn't think government would charge somebody for writing a check to their lawyer to pay for legal services with felonies for each and every slip of paper involved. But here we are!
The Bruen majority caved when it came to Rahimi, and once you have caved, it's hard to recapture your principles. Every cave makes the next easier.
So my general expectation would be that the BATF will win this one. Because the Court's majority doesn't see any problem with infringing this particular right a little bit, or even quite a bit, as long as you leave SOME of it left.
As I noted at the time of the Rahimi decision it was a poor case to take to SCOTUS. This isn't as much a slippery slope as trying to win with poor cases.
You can generate good test cases, but you can't prevent somebody who wants to take a long shot case for personal reasons from beating you to it.
But, yes, for psychological reasons I think that, now that the Court has compromised once on the Bruen reasoning, they'll find it easier to do it over and over. Compromise is always easier the second time.
"our nation has seen an explosion in crimes committed with ghost guns."
Oh really? Anyone have an actual figures on that? And divide those between the Polymer 80 hobbyist kits [takes about an hour, by the way] and stolen weapons with the serial numbers defaced.
May I suggest;
https://www.google.com/search?sca_esv=6438a53135bfba51&sxsrf=ADLYWIILvD1yhH-uGgG7FBiyUh0HL4vpww:1728480341280&q=Ghost+gun+statistics+ATF&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwi2zPiFs4GJAxWnmYkEHR3MFysQ1QJ6BAg9EAE&biw=1590&bih=800&dpr=1.2.
The article suggests a 5-fold increase in these weapons being recovered at crime scenes.
I see a 5-10 fold increase in requests to trace 'ghost guns', which isn't the same as an increase in use of 'ghost guns' in crimes committed with them.
Numbers Undercut Biden Administration on Ghost Guns
Apparently what's going on is that the administration is conflating "guns without serial numbers" and "ghost guns". And reporting a big increase in their being reported to the BATF. NOT in their being used in crimes.
Well, all you need to get a big spike like that is for the BATF to ask for them to be reported.
But, seriously, why care? I care about murder, not weapons. The idea that murder is driven by weapons is nutso, it gets causality backwards.
That objection is misguided, Prelogar said, because "we are not suggesting that a statutory reference to one
thing includes all other separate and distinct things that might be readily converted into the thing that's listed in the statute itself."
"At least, not this go around."
Yes. Is there any limiting principal being articulated here?
The headline should read, "Most Justices Seem Inclined To Uphold the ATF's Fascism."
"Most Justices Seem Inclined to Uphold ___ Fascism" is a pretty safe headline most of the time. Fill in the blank with almost anything.