Trump's Deportation Plan Would Cost Nearly $1 Trillion
And it would wreck the economy.

Former President Donald Trump's promise to carry out "the largest domestic deportation operation in American history" would not only be a moral calamity requiring an enormous expansion of government—it would also be hugely expensive and ruinous to the American economy.
The governmental infrastructure required to arrest, process, and remove 13 million undocumented immigrants would cost nearly $1 trillion over 10 years and would deal a "devastating" hit to economic growth, according to a report published last week by the American Immigration Council (AIC). The think tank estimates that a mass deportation plan would shrink America's gross domestic product by at least 4.2 percent, due to the loss of workers in industries already struggling to find enough labor.
Trump has promised to create a "deportation force" to round up undocumented immigrants and eject them from the country. This would entail targeting two groups: the roughly 11 million people who lacked permanent legal status as of 2022 (that's the most recent number from the American Community Survey) and the estimated 2.3 million people who have entered the country without legal status since January 2023 (that figure come from the Department of Homeland Security).
The AIC report estimates that a mass deportation effort would cost an average of $88 billion annually—four times the annual budget of NASA—and $967 billion over a decade. To carry out such a program, the government would have to spend huge sums expanding immigration detention facilities, courtrooms, and other infrastructure. That would include hiring thousands of additional federal employees. In short, a mass deportation plan would be costly to set up, expensive to operate, and difficult to undo once it becomes established.
And for what? The costs of mass deportation would rebound into the economy in several ways. The economy would shrink and federal tax revenues would decline. The construction industry, where an estimated 14 percent of workers are undocumented migrants, would be particularly hard hit, but the effects would be felt throughout the economy.
"Removing that labor would disrupt all forms of construction across the nation, from homes to businesses to basic infrastructure," the AIC notes. "As industries suffer, hundreds of thousands of U.S.-born workers could lose their jobs."
That's an important point. Immigration restrictionists often assume that deporting millions of undocumented workers would allow more Americans to fill those jobs, but the economy is not a zero-sum game. A shrinking economy would be bad news for many workers who aren't directly impacted by Trump's deportation plan.
The AIC's estimates are generally in line with the estimates made earlier this year by analysts at the Penn Wharton Budget Center (PWBM), a fiscal policy think tank housed at the University of Pennsylvania. "The costs of the former president's plan to deport the more than 14 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. today could easily reach more than $1 trillion over 10 years, before taking into account the labor costs necessary for such a project or the unforeseen consequences of reducing the labor supply by such drastic amounts over a short period," reported Marketwatch, which requested the PWBM estimate.
Of course, there are fiscal costs that come from illegal immigration too. A recent study published by the Manhattan Institute estimates that undocumented immigrants who have crossed the southern border since 2021 will cost taxpayers about $1.15 trillion over their lifetimes.
That same report notes that more immigration will generally boost the U.S. economy and help reduce future federal budget deficits—"the average new immigrant (lawful or unlawful) has a positive fiscal impact and reduces the federal budget deficit by over $10,000 during his lifetime," writes Daniel DiMartino, the Manhattan Institute report's author. It is younger, college-educated immigrants who pull up that average. Low-skilled immigrants who lack a college degree are generally a net negative for the federal budget.
Both reports ought to make a case for fixing America's convoluted immigration system so more people can come here legally. That would be a better use of political resources than a costly and damaging deportation scheme.
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stop. whining.
But what about the food trucks?
Yes, we KNOW shit already. . . Der Dear TrumpfenFarter-Fuhrer would SAVE (and enslave) us all 153 $TRILLION with His Sacred Red-State Hatred!!!
Chumby - "But what about the food trucks?"
SQRLSY - Yes, we KNOW shit already
*chef's kiss*
Remarkable.
To SQRLSY, a septic service vehicle with a full tank is a ‘food truck’.
T would keep the communists off the board.
First…. American Immigration Council (AIC)
Second… 1T is less than 150B a year over 10 years. Seems like it is a 500B savings.
Third, AIC based this on pretty shifty assumptions to even get this number. Didn’t include return to work for Americans off welfare. And basically proved they are an activist group idiot Comms Majors pretending to be economics experts use to push their a priori views.
American Immigration Council - chef of word salads:
The Council strives to strengthen the United States by shaping immigration policies and practices through innovative programs, cutting-edge research, and strategic legal and advocacy efforts grounded in evidence, compassion, justice and fairness. We collaborate with diverse stakeholders, including policymakers, grassroots organizations, and immigrant communities, to advance results-driven solutions to the challenges facing immigrants and communities throughout the United States.
The Council believes that diversity is a strength. The Council is committed to being a safe, respectful, and inclusive space, where a broad range of viewpoints and experiences are encouraged and every member of its staff and board is given the opportunity to thrive.
Consistent with this commitment, the Council works proactively to promote diversity and equity at all levels of our organization—including board membership, staff leadership, staff at large, and interns—as well as in our external engagements. This commitment is reflected in the Council’s overall operational decisions (including, but not limited to, recruitment and hiring policies) and in concrete, intentional policies and practices aimed at fostering a culture of mutual respect and inclusion.
Damn. The stench of good intentions is overpowering.
The road to Hell is paved with the unintended consequences of good intentions. We're building a superhighway.
AIC is a progressive open borders illegal immigration advocacy group. Using them for a authoritative source on immigration is like using Earth First as the authoritative source on global warming. The author lets the intended audience know what he thinks of us by using them and pushing ridiculous numbers. $1,000,000,000,000 or $1,000,000,000 year to deport people? Now subtract the cost of welfare, housing, jobs lost to citizens, schooling, public services not to mention crime. The cost would be closer to $10,000
totally worth it. the president's job is to enforce the law, not help people break it.
Maybe the laws needs to be changed.
Eliminate all forms of government welfare. The free-riding illegal aliens that made their way into the US for the hundreds of billions (including FEMA funds) can make their way back home.
This is the entire problem with Reason's version of libertarianism. They claim their open borders policy is totally workable because they're *opposed to* the ensuing government handouts to illegals. I can be opposed to gravity, but since it goes on existing anyway I am still good and fucking tired every time I life weights.
Since we do have and will continue to have government handouts, any person who claims to have an ounce of logic would have to alter their stance on illegal immigration accordingly. If you don't call for an end to all illegal immigration until such time as there are no more taxpayer handouts, you are simply another uniparty schill.
It's like designing an airplane using HS physics, assuming perfect gas law, no friction, stable lift, no temp changes, constant pressure, no winds, no weight change from fuel expenditure, no mechanical failure, etc.
No doors bloeing off the planes.
I see what you did there
😉
when we think of explosive landing gear, only Firestone comes to mind.
Actually, even High School physics is more real world than that.
Even the level of reality you attribute to High School physics is far superior to the thought process claiming to justify illegal entry.
Note: Everything they claim immigrants are needed for can be accomplished BETTER with legal immigration.
It's actually worse than that; There was a time when the US public were much more libertarian; Hell, PBS actually ran a popular TV series by Milton Friedman! Could you imagine that happening today?
What happened?
We, a welfare state, threw the borders open, and people in much less libertarian countries, who thought it would be nice to live in a wealthy welfare state, moved here. By the tens of millions.
And any prospect of the libertarian program being implemented died. Open borders killed the libertarian moment.
Why not address something which actually has a chance of being passed into law, like federal price controls and a national "unrealized income" wealth tax, each of which is far more dangerous?
That’s (D)ifferent.
Well, no need for new government employees; the ones let go by eliminating the department of education, DHS, and every single DEI position should get the job done.
No need for detention facilities, we are going to send them away, right?
We have lots of c130's laying around Air Guard bases, and the crews need training anyway.
We have lots of courts; the Soros DAs aren't using any of them.
"The costs of the former president's plan to deport the more than 14 million unauthorized immigrants in the U.S. today could easily reach more than $1 trillion over 10 years
According to Paul Krugman, that's a pretty low cost.
Does that factor in what the fedgov would save on not putting them up in hotels?
In short, a mass deportation plan would be costly to set up, expensive to operate, and difficult to undo once it becomes established.
That’s the most insidious part of Trump’s plan to cleanse the blood of the nation. It will necessitate a huge increase in federal law enforcement that will not go away. His defenders bitch and moan about the FBI because it dared to go after Him. Yet they are practically begging for a federal police force that will roam the nation, kidnapping anyone without the proper paperwork, and cramming them into non-existent detainment facilities. This has to be pure emotion, because no one with a functioning brain can not see UGE problems with this.
What happens when Democrats get to use this new toy that allows them to scoop up people by the millions and cram them into internment camps? Do you guys think ahead at all, or is it all just emotion in the moment?
Oh fuck off. You pal around with Shrike and JFree and then think you have the right to insinuate everyone else is racist?
Fuck you.
Xenophobia is race independent.
Nice to see you attack me with accusations of insinuating racism, while completely and totally ignoring my point.
It’s as if you don’t care if the federal government gets a police force that goes around kidnapping people by the millions.
I can only conclude that you would have supported and defended the Fugitive Slave Acts. This really isn’t that much different.
Tell me all about Canadian maple syrup Moose fucking again, Mr. Never Xenophobic.
And it's not kIdNaPpiNG to arrest and expel criminals, retard. And illegal entry is definitely a criminal offense.
Slaves fleeing their masters was a criminal offense. And the law is the law. Therefore you would have attacked anyone critical of the Fugitive Slave Acts. Because the law is the law.
Americans currently forced to fund foreign nationals is mildly analogous to the Democratic Party supported Fugitive Slave Act.
Empowering the federal government to round up nearly 13,000,000 people is much more analogous than whatever nonsense you’re peddling. And all of y’all Trump defenders would have supported it. After all, in principle it’s basically the same thing. “Show me your papers. Your status is illegal. You’re under arrest.”
You guys stress that the law is the law, and those who break the law need to be punished. Welllllllll, unless they're Trump. Then the law doesn't count and anyone who enforce it is a leftist. But otherwise the law is the law.
What I am “peddling” is the sunset of all government welfare programs. Immediately. When the gravy train is over, the free riders will seek greener pastures elsewhere.
You may as well be peddling unlimited gasoline in the form of unicorn farts.
Now if you want to be realistic, you need to accept that social programs are here to stay.
Working within that reality, doesn't it make sense to make it as easy as possible for these people to work while making it difficult to get assistance? Because the status quo is the exact opposite.
Sarc is what a weasel aspires for.
Give up on libertarian principles because it goes against the tide.
You would have been the perfect Jew in concentration camps. Getting the nice bed because you are the hovel snitch.
I’d take a hundred immigrants to get rid of you.
Peddling unlimited resources? Like what is happening now…except for hurricane impacted citizens because the FEMA unicorn farts were given to illegal aliens.
Realistic in that many of those programs have been imposed on the population within the past hundred years?
Realism is that the current runaway dent is not sustainable. More so after Biden-Harris further weaponizing the dollar that pushed more countries away from the unipolar globohomo cabal (see BRICS) and ending the petrodollar. Flying faster towards the sun wasn’t going to help Icarus.
Exactly.
Social programs do not need to be permanent.
Indeed, eliminate all of FDR's and LBJ's failed social programs, and the those on those expensive, counter-productive and useless programs will be either forced to get a job or have the religious organizations take care of them.
For too long, welfare both personal and corporate have burdened the American taxpayers.
Also needed to be eliminated is money for grants, all foreign aid, as well as money to such as the UN and NATO.
Can you totally and completely ignore the idea of making it as easy as possible for immigrants to support themselves while making it more difficult for them to get public assistance, and then ignore how that would change how immigrants impact society as a whole? You know, working within the system. Changing incentives.
Aw shucks. Too late. You all already did.
The free riders will find greener pastures. The productive ones won’t be burdened by subsidizing free riders. Or do you want non productive arrivals that need to be subsidized and cared for by the state? Is this one of those George W Bush concepts of “too big to fail?”
The impact of this is that it would significantly reduce government coercing money out of my paycheck. Little l libertarian.
The system has been broken for some time.
I'm not saying that cutting welfare wouldn't incentivize the freeloaders to leave.
I'm saying it's a political impossibility.
Want to eliminate the federal deficit? Easy peasy. Get rid of Social Security and Medicare.
Problem is that it's not going to happen.
I'm trying to stay within the bounds of reality.
Then ACW 2.0, warboner initiated nuclear war with Russia/China, or collapse are the other options on the table. There may be stop gaps like CBDC, raiding Roth IRAs because “unfair” and the like.
The current Biden-Harris disaster with FEMA may get compounded as Milton may be CAT5 as it hits Tampa-St Pete. That is a microcosm of why sending money to DC is bad.
making it as easy as possible for immigrants to support themselves while making it more difficult for them to get public assistance
Okay, so what are your plans for making it more difficult for them to get public assistance?
Why are you so hostile to allowing them to work?
making it as easy as possible for immigrants to support themselves while making it more difficult for them to get public assistance
So you really don't have any ideas how to accomplish the second part of your argument?
Letting people support themselves would by itself lessen the need for assistance. People like you attack immigrants for “stealing jobs” and force them into taking assistance, then attack them for taking assistance.
What would I do? Create more hoops for assistance while eliminating hoops for work. Make it easier to get a job.
Something you viscerally oppose with every fiber of your being.
Create more hoops for assistance
Such as...?
Eliminate all forms of govt assistance.
Such as make getting a job so easy that assistance, as in failing to find a job, would be hard.
Such as just ending all welfare. Govt shouldn’t be in the business of telling businesses how they need to hire.
That would negatively impact Sarc’s welfare income. He would go from looking like Rickety Cricket ims Seasom 4 of ‘Its Always Sunny in Philadelphia’, to the Seasom 15 version of the character.
Here’s a peak at what awaits Sarcles…..
https://www.fxnetworks.com/shows/its-always-sunny-in-philadelphia/cast/david-hornsby-rickety-cricket
Sarc, you specifically said you wanted to make it easier for them to get jobs AND to make it harder to access welfare programs. Your response is just doubling down on the first part, but not addressing the second part. Do you actually have ideas to implement the second part, or is your idea just to make it easier to get employment.
We aren't forced to fund foreign nationals. We force ourselves to by refusing to allow asylum applicants to work. We force ourselves to accept unlimited numbers of asylum applicants because the Orange Cult Leader ordered Republicans to kill the Lankford bill which would have set numerical limits. We encourage this backdoor approach to immigration because the immigration quotas for the Western Hemisphere, which didn't exist from 1776 to 1965, are way too low and the wait to even get an interview for an ordinary visa can be years long. As Walt Kelly said, "We have met the enemy and he is us."
Oh and the 1850 Fugitive Slave Act was signed into law by a Whig, not a Democrat. A lot of Democrats from free states opposed it.
Parody.
Odd how the parody agrees with psarc who agrees with democrats.
But apparently it’s Ok to you to use “migrants” as latter-day slaves.
Someone needs to work the cheesypoof fields.
Slaves fleeing their masters was a criminal offense. And the law is the law.
Illegals sneaking in were never ever slaves you dishonest piece of shit. If I fly to Dubai so I can earn enough for a Rolls and a nice house in the country I'm not fleeing Canadian slavery, and neither are the scofflaws sneaking in.
You're such a joke.
Wow. And I thought TJ was mind-numbingly stupid. You take the cake.
No, that's you, clowntits. Comparing expelling illegals to slavery is not only pants-on-head retarded, in an insult to the slaves.
You're such an evil piece of garbage.
Grabbing people off the streets because of papers. In principle its exactly the same. You would have fought in favor of the Fugitive Slave Acts because fugitive slaves were illegal. They illegally left the plantation and were galavanting around like normal people. They were illegal. Stealing jobs. And you want to round up illegals. The law is the law. The law cannot be questioned. And illegals are illegal.
You would have enforced it with a smile. And you call me evil?
Yes I do call you evil because you know it’s not about pApErs.
It’s about millions of people breaking a law deliberately for the free house, 2k spending money, free healthcare and free trip to wherever they want to go.
But what you’re trying to do is make it sound like these people are Jews being grabbed by Nazis. What a mind-blowingly evil comparison. They didn't come from oppression, when they get kicked out they are just going back to a safe, comfortable home albeit without all the free shit. And you are pretending that they are victims.
You’re so fucking gross.
Someone who has scapegoated 13,000,000 people says it's ok when he does it because he's a xenophobe, not a racist.
""You would have fought in favor of the Fugitive Slave Acts""
Again with your projecting.
By your retarded definition. Every functional country I. The face of the earth is engaging in ‘slavery’ when they expel a non citizen that is not legally present in their country.
Thats pure idiocy. No wonder your pals with Pedo Jeffy. Have he and Shrike gotten you on board with raping children yet?
Lol.
“Their home countries suck beyond repair and their inferior culture is incapable of fixing it. So don’t be a xenophobe.”
30 years ago I was working with crews from Mexico, Poland, Hungary, Czech, etc. They would come here in groups, make a bunch of money working for a season while keeping expenses low, and then go home and prosper. You are an idiot with no experience in the real world. Fuck off.
Seems like just yesterday he was denying using the standard dem boilerplate of calling everyone racist in leiu of an intelligent argument.
No.
You and the Canadian were intentionally conflating xenophobia with racism, then lying and claiming my observations of your xenophobia were accusations of racism.
Without strawmen you’d have nothing to argue against.
No, You were intentionally conflating xenophobia with racism, then calling us racist, and then when we told you to fuck off, you accused us of intentionally conflating xenophobia with racism.
Somewhere in your pickled little brain that all made sense to you though. FAS is a bitch, huh?
Also, sometime xenophobia is a perfect good reaction.
“You and the Canadian”
Accusations of xenophobia while being xenophobic. You’re a marvel, Sarckles.
That's just plain stupid. Wow. You made TJ look smart with that one.
It works when we call you stupid. Your pitiful excuse for a Bria. Has shrunk for decades of severe alcohol abuse. This doesn’t work against us. We’re far more intelligent, and not constantly drunk.
So your attempts to gaslight us with your binary strawman have failed. You have not properly ascertained’ the situation.
(Has no one picked up on my use of the word ‘ascertained’ yet?)
Democrats already played with that toy….
Sarcshit, if you project any harder, we might be able to use you to watch movies in space. Then, at least you'd have some value.
So what’s you solution?
Deny reality as he repeats boilerplate dem narratives.
boredom.
Apparently you bought stock in straw men.
They’re gonna have to figure out how to fix their own problems or this will never end. The time is now.
'cleanse the blood of the nation'
Absolutely projection and you're a racist asshole. Get bent.
Make up some numbers while you're at it?
Cut off the welfare: no more phones, no more hotel rooms, no more meals, no checks to pay rent.
Change law to make entering US territory illegally a disqualifying action for asylum.
Cut off the illegal employment: prosecute employers for breaking minimum wage, tax, etc. laws they break when they hire illegals (or for breaking those same laws hiring citizens or greencard holders). A much smaller enforcement effort.
Self-deportations will almost certainly rise.
"no more hotel rooms, no more meals,"
They can camp out on your property and steal your food. You would do the same thing rather than freeze and starve.
"Change law to make entering US territory illegally a disqualifying action for asylum."
You can't do that retroactively. And no other misdemeanor disqualifies your US status.
"Self-deportations will almost certainly rise."
You would have suggested that Jews self deport to Germany in 1940.
No, they can leave. They have no business being there. And you shouldn’t have brought them here. So this is your fault.
This entire post is a great example of why the center-right needs to be liquidated.
JD Vance’s Running Mate is Wrong About Immigration was the original headline until the commentariat backlash?
Wow. Reason is in a bad place.
The commentariat is where libertarianism lives. I think many of the editors here have libertarian ideas on a subject or several subjects. A few can pass the full test (Stossel, Wolfe, maybe Brian) though I’m not the approving authority. When each gets outside of that lane or those few lanes, they aren’t penning libertarian ideals. Their paymaster doesn’t want Trump reelected so hit pieces on him and Vance are likely the soup du jour until at least after Guy Fawkes Day has passed.
They started the “JD Vance is wrong” headlines and are now getting pushback regarding that.
If a trump wins, there will be an onslaught of brown envelope hit pieces designed to hurt his transition. Koch will never let up. And let’s be honest, this beltway cocktail party invites don’t mail themselves.
If Trump wins, I don't think you'll have to worry about Koch instructing Reason to (continue to) publish hit pieces on Trump. I expect the deep state to take him out rather than let him re-take office in January.
If Trump wins, he will get a “heart attack” before he’s allowed to take power…
That’s ok. Then JD Vance can be wrong about everything as president!
If that happens then it’s time to round up the democrats and deal with them. Period.
Vance is wrong about all Reason headlines. Also toasters.
according to a report published last week by the American Immigration Council
Well, that was as far as I needed to read. Though, I really should've just stopped at "Eric Boehm".
You have that right. Funny how Democrats created this mess by their refusal to enforce existing laws, yet Boehm blames Trump for saying that he wants to do something about it.
President Trump's deportation plan is....
A GOOD FUCKING START!
ONE TRILLION DOLLARS!
And since we're going all out on the crazy, improbable lies, my dick is a meter long and I caught a 250 lb bass last week.
With your dick? Ouch.
From the usual crew, the usual response:
No downsides, only upsides to mass deportation.
Fewer illegal alien adolescent boys to be preyed upon by MAPedo Americans.
Said nobody.
And what, do tell, Jefftard, are your “downsides”? That you won’t get to use “migrants” as latter day slaves?
Creating a huge federal police force that finds, arrests and detains people by the millions. What do you think will happen when the political pendulum swings the other way? You think the people who hate you as much as you hate them will let it go to waste?
How about a system where any illegal who is arrested for another crime in this country is deported? That would cost far less and be less invasive. Do you support that, or you really just want NO deportations?
Jeff was against that bill.
He’s been quiet today. Did he get stuck in the entrance to Wendy’s?
U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement?
For the most part they get illegals after local law enforcement is done with them. Like all those murderers Trump and Vance said were on the streets, who are really in prison.
What you are promoting is greatly expanding enforcement and detention on a level capable of grabbing millions of people off the streets.
What you fail to see is how that will become a permanent fixture of law enforcement, and will be abused against you when the people who hate you as much as you hate them have power.
I'm not promoting anything. That's you projecting.
I'm merely acknowledging that we already have a three letter agency that does that.
It does not employ an army of police capable of extracting tens of millions of people from society.
But when they’re done that will be a permanent part of government.
One thing people can be counted upon is giving powers to government over some emotional issue and then wondering why those powers keep being used against them.
""It does not employ an army of police capable of extracting tens of millions of people from society.""
What's the time frame?
You democrats are already federalizing the police. Try again.
"No downsides, only upsides to mass deportation."
Don't think of it as "mass deportation", Lying Jeffy. Think of it as mass expulsion and ruining your future electoral fraud plans.
Yup. Getting a large population addicted to “free” government goods and services so they can keep those plantation owners in elected office. The stealing, grifting, and money printing to keep that mechanism working is to be ignored.
unforeseen consequences of reducing the labor supply by such drastic amounts over a short period
Demand (measured in wages) will rise massively.
There are only about 6 million unemployed persons in the US. Deport 11 million people and you have an instant disappearance of 5 million jobs and all the businesses that employ them and that is assuming that everyone looking for a job takes one of the many that become available, and it is more likely that they will hold out for massively more pay. $20 minimum wage? Hah! Fast food restaurants will have to pay $50/hour for their crappy jobs. Inflation will resemble that of Argentina. Or worse.
You’re not counting all the people who fell of the labor participation calculation used by you democrats to present artificially low unemployment numbers. So we’ll be just fine. And if we really do need more foreign labor, it won’t take much to net gin quality candidates through legal channels.
Now fuck off, you lying democrat open borders propagandist.
Inflation will resemble that of Argentina. Or worse.
A "right-wing extremist" is running Argentina right now, you french-fried faggot. Not your lefty boos. You might want to check in and see how they're doing.
"There are only about 6 million unemployed persons in the US"
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
FOAD, asshole.
With the rise in wages comes inflation.
Sounds like a bargain to me.
How about just 7 million?
I get that Reason can pretend to be libertarian, and equivocate about borders. But WTF is their stand on property, public and private?
Oh that's easy. Reason's position on property is that all property is collectively owned, and that the collective has the right to decide who may or may not enter any particular parcel of property, despite whatever the 'private property owner' may wish. So basically, communism.
Oh wait, that's not Reason's position! That's someone else's position! Now who might that be...
Yours
You’re the Marxist.
Cut off all benefits - no phones, no hotels, no food vouchers, etc. As during the immigration from the 1880s-1920s, when there was no free ride, many Italians, Irish, Poles, etc. self-deported.
The money saved by not providing benefits will go a long way to funding deportation. I'm sure Adams and the residents of NYC would like those housing and food vouchers to pay for bus tickets instead.
“Cut off all benefits – no phones, no hotels, no food vouchers, etc.”
This is the only viable alternative to expulsion.
Leave or go to a concentration camp.
Okay Nazi.
He’s talking about you democrats, well, at least I am. You have no right to be here.
Okay, asshole. FOAD.
I would rather the city hire the migrants for its many vacant positions.
charliehall, center-right limp-dick, doesn't believe in the ability of the free market to adjust to less Third World peon labor.
"I would rather the city hire the migrants for its many vacant positions."
I would rather you FOAD, asshole.
It is younger, college-educated immigrants who pull up that average. Low-skilled immigrants who lack a college degree are generally a net negative for the federal budget.
Even Boehm admits the truth at the end of his article. Tell me, are the majority of the "migrants" entering this country college-educated, or "low-skilled immigrants who lack a college degree," i.e. "a net negative for the federal budget?"
>Trump's Deportation Plan Would Cost Nearly $1 Trillion
And it would wreck the economy.
1. Not deporting them will cost more.
2. The economy's already been wrecked. By the people 'reluctantly, but strategically', voted into office.
So I'm of the opinion that I'll give Orange Man a chance to fuck things up differently from the way the Democrats have been doing so.
Boehm blessed us with a meme.
1. Not deporting them will cost more.
Cite?
"...A recent study published by the Manhattan Institute estimates that undocumented immigrants who have crossed the southern border since 2021 will cost taxpayers about $1.15 trillion over their lifetimes..."
Read the article and then FOAD, asshole.
"The economy’s already been wrecked. "
We have never had as strong an economy in peacetime.
You’re actually stupid enough to say that.
It is a parody account.
Parody requires some degree of intelligence; I'm going with abysmal stupidity and the imbecile actually believes what s/he posts.
As someone who consistently makes idiotic posts you may have finally reached peak idiocy.
The numbers are crap for several reasons:
1. So that comes to $76,923 per migrant?? Yeah right. Ever heard of the economy of scale? They wouldn't be going 1 or 2 at a time on some privately chartered flight. They would be going en masse on large aircraft or ships.
2. Once this started, many migrants would self-deport and/or stop coming to the US, so not only would it make deportation cheaper, but it would have a long term preventative effect.
3. We did a mass deportation in the 1950s under Eisenhower, and not only did it not devastate the economy, the 1950s were considering a golden age in the country in terms of prosperity.
4. Keep in mind that the American Immigration Council is a group of immigration lawyers, and of course it's in their interest to keep as many illegal immigrants here as possible, their livelihood depends on it. So I don't consider them an impartial source.
Thank you. The number was so incredibly bullshit.
I bet a trillion dollars deporting them all wouldn’t cost even close to 50 billion dollars.
Boehm is an expert economist because of…reasons. Free minds, free markets, and free styling with BS.
And he totally isn’t a retarded idiot!
"...They would be going en masse on large aircraft or ships."
Or Greyhounds to Laredo, and $5 to catch a bus to the first place Soros is providing services.
(You don't think they got here without someone picking up the bill, do you? Isn't all the 'investigative journalism' impressive in finding the sources of those millions?)
It will be worse when they're all Democratic voters.
The Central American and South American migrants would be natural socially conservative voters were it not for the ignorant bigotry expressed here and elsewhere by Republicans and their leaders.
The only bigotry is coming from you democrats, same as always. You’re the party of Nazi sympathizers, and the Klan.
charliehall would be political conservative if he had a second brain cell.
FOAD, asshole.
"Why can't the USA just surrender their nation to a foreign invasion. Don't they know defending borders COST money!!!" /s
How to say "F'The USA" without actually just saying "F'The USA".
Deporting most of the workforce in the food industry at the cost of a trillion dollars is f***ing the USA. There will be food shortages like the former Soviet Union along with massive inflation.
What makes you think that workforce is here illegally?
Leftard BS-propaganda?
Never-mind over 1/2 of legal immigrants are welfare leaches.
Somehow, somewhere in fantasy-land the whole USA'S workforce is immigrant.
"What makes you think that workforce is here illegally?"
Operating with the benefit of a single brain-cell explains a lot of charliehall's bullshit.
Let’s get rid of you democrats too while we’re at it.
I wonder if the author would change his tune if he was on the first group catapult of illegals back over the border (you know...the ones he's supporting in his own home, with his own money.)
Checks to see if deficits actually declined significantly as immigration rose in the country -
Nope. Didn't happen. Simple math dictates that if system pays out 3 times to recipients (immigrant or native) what they put in, it will result in a deficit. Math.
As a hyper libertarian, I have no issues with foreign guest workers if there are genuinely some fields where Americans refuse to work. Every other nation on earth do this. They usually don't let hordes of unchecked foreign nationals gobble up high paying jobs. Of course we need someone with a functioning brain running the country to actually something like this.
Most countries also do not allow illegal aliens to go to school, get welfare benefits, get jobs, etc. Language proficiency is required for citizenship in many of them.
Surprise! They don't need to create deportation squads.
The AIC report estimates that a mass deportation effort would cost an average of $88 billion annually
That's OK, I know a Ukranian guy who's flush with cash. He won't even miss that little pittance.
To carry out such a program, the government would have to spend huge sums expanding immigration detention facilities, courtrooms, and other infrastructure.
You're overthinking it Eric. There's no need whatsoever for any of that.
It's not hard. Identify them, immediately arrest them, load them into shipping containers, and pack them onto a C-5 Galaxy. Then parachute the containers out over the skies of their COO.
"Removing that labor would disrupt all forms of construction across the nation, from homes to businesses to basic infrastructure," the AIC notes.
Nope, that's easily remedied too. Turn off the welfare spigot, eliminate unemployment benefits, and lower the minimum wage. That'll incentivize hiring, and increase the available labor pool which has been frustrated by incentives not to work.
That same report notes that more immigration will generally boost the U.S. economy and help reduce future federal budget deficits
As long as it's legal immigration, sure. Anything short of that is just imported crime with zero long-term economic benefit whatsoever.
Compared to the cost of NOT deporting illegals, $1 trillion is pocket change.
Except every study shows that immigrants, documented and undocumented are a net economic benefit. So, it $1 trillion in added cost, plus the economic loses.
Nope. Try again. You’re lying.
I don't agree see below;
https://www.bushcenter.org/catalyst/north-american-century/benefits-of-immigration-outweigh-costs
Considering you all were claiming J6 did billions in damages I'm knocking a couple of zeroes off this amount and assuming that's closer to reality.
Why not make it eleventy bazillion?
According to turd, that's what Trump spent.
Which turd? The pedo one carrying Harris’ water? Oh wait, that doesn’t really narrow it down.
$1Trillion dollars - good paying American Jobs!
I miss the Old Days, when Dems simply denied thereWAS a Southern Border Crisis.
Simpler times…
Harris was made the Border Czar over three years ago. Problem solved!
And she's going to fix it this time!
If we don't deport them, they'll just keep coming. We need to make it easier to come legally, but we can't just allow them to keep pouring in unvetted. And we REALLY need to stop supporting them with taxpayer money.
And pretending they have or should have rights under the American legal system.
1. Start with any illegal who breaks any law.
2. Move on to any illegal who disrespects American law, or culture.
3. From there, make individual determinations based solely on economic benefit to America.
It will probably cost zero when costs of illegals are subtracted.
Nonsense. Cut all federal spending on illegal immigrants, cut federal aid to states that don’t cut all of their spending on illegal immigrants, and enforce the laws against hiring illegal immigrants. Most of the illegal immigrants will leave on their own, and the flood pouring over the border will reduce itself to a trickle.
Articles like this and that weirdo picked to run for President are why Libertarians will always be considered a joke.
It's a fools errand to score any of Trump's proposals. They will never become law. This is a pretty basic negotiating tool to look at the spectrum as a see saw. If the current debate is anchored at open borders and unlimited immigration, then deporting them all is a reasonable starting point for the other side. As the one side moves to the middle, so does the other side. We always get crash on the "path to citizenship" rocks and the Executive branch usurps more power to execute their own designs. Wash, rinse, repeat.