Alabama Pastor Can Sue the Cops Who Arrested Him For Refusing To Show His ID
A federal judge rejected the officers' claims of qualified immunity.

A federal judge is allowing a lawsuit to go forward against the Alabama cops who arrested a pastor as he was watering his neighbor's flowers.
The officers were apparently confused about Alabama's "stop and identify" law. The statute, which has already led to similar lawsuits, allows police to demand that individuals provide their name, their address, and an explanation of their actions when there is "reasonable suspicion" that they are committing a crime. Officers frequently use the law as a pretext to demand that someone hand over a physical ID card, even though a physical ID has significantly more information than people are required to give under the law.
On May 22, 2022, Michael Jennings, a pastor at a church in Childersburg, Alabama, was watering his out-of-town neighbor's flowers when another neighbor called 911 to report a suspicious person. Two police officers, Christopher Smith and Justin Gable, soon arrived and began questioning Jennings.
Body camera footage of the incident shows that Jennings told the officers that his name was "Pastor Jennings" but refused to hand over his I.D. card, saying "I'm not gonna give you no I.D., I ain't did nothing wrong….I used to be a police officer."
"Come on man, don't do this to me. There's a suspicious person in the yard, and if you're not gonna identify yourself—" said one of the officers, before Jennings interjected, "I don't have to identify myself."
The officers arrested Jennings, and he was booked at the Childersburg City Jail on obstruction of government operation charges. The charges were dropped just days later, and he then sued, claiming that the officers wrongfully arrested him and violated his constitutional right to be free from unreasonable search or seizure.
Last December a judge dismissed the suit, ruling that the officers had qualified immunity, protecting them from civil liability. (Qualified immunity is the doctrine that shields officials from federal civil rights claims unless their alleged actions violated "clearly established" law, with "clearly established" defined extremely narrowly.) But Jennings appealed, and last Friday a three-judge panel for the Eleventh Circuit Court of Appeals reversed the decision.
The court's decision concluded that the police didn't even have "arguable" probable cause to arrest Jennings. The court not only dismissed the officers' claim that Jennings intimidated and physically interfered with their investigation of the 911 call, but it pointed out that the officers' claim that Jennings violated Alabama's ID law was obvious nonsense.
Even if the officers had a right to demand Jennings identify himself, Jennings still complied with the state's ID requirements. He told the officers who he was, that he lived across the street, and why he was in his neighbor's yard.
"While it is always advisable to cooperate with law enforcement officers," the opinion reads, "Jennings was under no legal obligation to provide his ID. Therefore, officers lacked probable cause for Jennings' arrest for obstructing government operations because Jennings did not commit an independent unlawful act by refusing to give ID."
With the court's decision, Jennings can continue suing the officers who wrongfully arrested him. But it shouldn't have taken this intervention for Jennings to be able to lodge his lawsuit in the first place. Stringent qualified immunity protections made police officers—and other government actors—virtually unaccountable for violating citizen's rights. The fact that Jennings' clear-cut case was dismissed in the first place reveals the deep flaws in that system.
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When there is a pattern of charges being dropped, then there needs to be an investigation into the officers and the department.
Because, as it is, police routinely arrest people for POP (pissing off the police) on false charges that they know will be dismissed, and nothing happens to the cops.
Meanwhile the victims of these malicious officers often lose their jobs, homes, and more, not to mention their freedom while they’re unlawfully jailed.
It’s gotten to a point where this isn’t police misconduct. It’s just police conduct.
The officers arrested Jennings, and he was booked at the Childersburg City Jail
on obstruction of government operation chargesfor contempt of cop.FIFY
As far as the police are concerned, ever order they give a civilian is to be obeyed by that civilian regardless of what any police regulation, statute, court decision, or constitution says. They believe the civilian is to consider them to be the law. In the past, this guy would have received a severe beating for his insolence.
But in the present, they beat him clean to death. Interesting trendline this Christian National Socialism is generating. The guy was the same color as Satan in the teevee Bible Story, and Obama--elected after Waffen Bush Faith-Based asset forfeiture prohibitionism wrecked the economy by confiscating mortgaged houses for weed. So OF COURSE they accosted him, took him to the station and beat him to death for being uppity to the Master Race Gestapo. That's what qualified immunity is FOR! ... that and looting, armed robbery under color of law.
Screw the “Defund” ridiculousness. We should have rolled back qualified immunity years ago.
The "defund" movement only got started in the first place because we couldn't figure out how to roll back [un]qualified immunity.
“Defunding” didn’t work either, now did it? Of course with that battle cry it was bound to fail. I think the protests would have had more traction if it were a battle cry more along the line “END IMMUNITY FOR THUGS “ or something similar. Maybe next time, lol.
The problem isn’t going to be improved until we take away the pretty much total immunity leo currently receive.
The problem wasn't the slogan. The problem is that every attempt to get momentum for police reform gets hijacked by racial demagogues.
Good point, but that requires spoiler votes, not boothead arnychists nor Jesus Caucus nazis.
Only 2½ years to give him permission to sue. That's remarkably fast.
Gosh. Alabama has changed SOME since 27% of the Dems had George Wallace picked as preferred nominee--supposing Hero of Chappaquiddick Teddy Kennedy (46%) were to somehow fail to buy his way out of trouble. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2017/11/17/electoral-spoiler-votes-1968/
While it is always advisable to cooperate with law enforcement officers...
Never assert your rights much less try to exercise them.
... in Jesus Caucus Alabammy!
I find it interesting the neighbor didn't recognize him or the neighbor just doesn't like him. Of course if I saw a person watering a lawn the last thing I would do is call the police unless you are in California where you can call the police for people watering their lawn on the wrong day or even the wrong time of day.
Watch the full video. Disgusting police protecting the whiners and complainers and the nosy neighbors of America.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aJGtvHcdO60
What is suspicious about watering a lawn anyway ? Are there serial lawn waterings going on that we should be worried about ?
He was watering flowers and plants, not a yard!
Black people water their lawns? This is going to sound terrible but I don’t know any black peoples in my area that even have lawns. Some VERY nice cars but no lawns.
Hey, I’m black and I’m Jewish so STFU!
HAPPY NEW YEAR!
even though a physical ID has significantly more information than people are required to give under the law.
What the hell are you talking about?
Their DOB and their DL#?? Physical characteristics that can be readily determined by LOOKING at someone? An optional little star that'll determine whether your ID is legit enough to get on an airplane?
It's not like your ID has a list of your credit card numbers, or a criminal status, or a list of your fears and phobias.
So, really, what were you trying to say when ChatGPT wrote that line for you, Emma?
Um, yes. A name paired with DOB and DL number is a significant amount of information. Cops use that to look up potential criminal history or warrants on a whim, hoping to find something. These cops were fishing with no cause.
This guy didn't need a written permission slip from his neighbor to peaceable water flowers so he could show nosy cops who are unreasonably harassing him. A peaceful citizen does not need to show papers on demand. This isn't Russia, China, or Cuba...yet.
You constantly argue that all cops are not bad cops, but you really seem to enjoy defending bad cops on these comment sections.
He’s suffering from what is known in the industry as boot licker syndrome with an associated case of “if I suck up hard enough and long enough they will never abuse MY rights.”
Cops use that to look up potential criminal history or warrants on a whim, hoping to find something.
How is it exactly you expect cops to find/arrest people with open warrants?
These cops were fishing with no cause.
Ahem: "another neighbor called 911 to report a suspicious person."
They were literally responding to an emergency call, and taking the least intrusive means to resolve it.
How is it exactly you expect cops to find/arrest people with open warrants?
Legally.
Emergency?
Bro was watering flowers.
Watering flowers.
What is wrong with you?
I didn't say it was an emergency. I said that a 911 call was made that they had to respond to. And if they hadn't, and literally anything nefarious had happened, you'd be blaming them for not responding.
This is why ACABs are stupid morons. They don't care at all about the facts just so long as they can find fault with the police.
Nobody are morons here except you and these cops. Once they arrived, any reasonable person would have discovered with a quick conversation that nothing nefarious was going on. However, these cops wanted an emergency, so they manufactured one and broke the law in the process. They also clearly believed that they can force people to "show their papers" for no apparent reason, as you seem to believe as well.
Nobody are morons here except you and these cops.
No, you ACABs are pretty darned retarded. You don't have a leg to stand on, but by gum you're going to gimp about all over the place.
Once they arrived, any reasonable person would have discovered with a quick conversation that nothing nefarious was going on.
Especially if the guy had just proffered his ID, which would have cost him nothing, and sent them on their way.
Heck, it's 2024. We have this magical incredible communication ability. "Hi, neighbor, it's me Mike. I've got a couple cops here responding to a call. Yea yea, but would mind terribly telling them that everything's OK and I'm just here watering your flowers?"
I mean, why do you jackoffs always insist on doing things the hardest way possible, often to your own detriment?
Since you have no leg to stand on while you (always) defend bad cops, you resort to name calling and poor arguments.
You should probably just go back to advocating for mass dog slaughter.