Kids Should Be Blindfolded and Dropped in the Woods at Night
In the Netherlands, kids grow up with more independence than in the United States.

Blindfolded kids, driven off in a car, and dumped into the woods at night. In America, we call that a crime. In the Netherlands? It's called a "dropping," and it's a beloved childhood tradition.
"It's a rite of passage," says Mark Pols, an investor living in Silicon Valley who grew up in Holland. When he was a kid, Pols says, droppings (pronounced drope-ings) were always a part of scouting—and still are. "There'd be various degrees of challenge, meaning what time of night, how far away you'd get dropped, how few people you'd get dropped with, etc."
Pols' first dropping was at age 11, which seems typical. He was in a group of five or six kids, all blindfolded and dropped well past sundown at some distance from the scout camp. "In our case, we had a little crude map and the purpose was to find a road and navigate your way back," Pols says. "It was really exciting because it was dark and we were given one flashlight. Maybe we had to walk a mile or something, but it felt really far and scary."
In some camps, then and now, staffers accompany the kids but hang behind so the campers have to figure out the route on their own. "We don't help the kids go in the right direction at all," says Birgit Hartkamp, a sales rep in Utrecht who grew up going to an astronomy camp that did droppings and later became a counselor there. "At one point I made the kids walk in a circle for five hours and then they realized they were 200 meters from the place they had to be. I knew it the whole time."
It sounds like no matter what the theme of the camp—music, science, horseback riding—a dropping is generally part of the experience in the Netherlands. Schools also do droppings when they take students on camping trips. Nowadays, some programs allow one or all of the kids to have a phone. But no matter how it's done, the dropping is the highlight of the trip and takes place halfway through the session.
Hartkamp recalls a time a camper "was not making any friends and he wanted to go home before the dropping. It was his first time. I sat down with him and said, 'Please don't go home. If you really want to, I cannot stop you. But please wait till Sunday, because Saturday night is the dropping.'"
He stayed and the dropping changed everything. "That night he made so many friends," says Hartkamp.
What is it about this strange experience that has the power to change a child so quickly? To me, it sounds remarkably like the exposure therapy used to treat anxiety.
In this type of therapy, a person who is afraid of something—for instance, cats—is first exposed to a cat all the way down the hall. At the next session they may be put in a room with a cat. Finally, they pet the cat or have it sit in their lap. With each exposure, the false belief that cats are a threat ebbs away. So does the belief that interacting with a cat is too much to bear.
Replacing that dread is confidence. A new study of adults terrified of two things—heights and spiders—found that when they were treated for one fear, their fear of the other abated too. In psychology speak, their newfound confidence "generalized."
Since most kids are afraid of the dark, afraid of the woods, and afraid of getting lost, a dropping sounds like a therapist's dream, accelerating exposure therapy in one wild night. Dropping may be one of the reasons kids in Holland are some of the happiest in the world.
"I remember just feeling scared, but not scared to the point I'd never do it again," says Kimberly Humphreys, a Dutch mom of three now living in Brisbane, Australia. In fact, she went on droppings year after year, always "realizing I could do things that I thought I wasn't capable of." That's the opposite of anxiety.
It's also existentially reassuring to know that the people who love you most—your parents—are certain you can handle this experience.
"You'll have to ask them—I don't even know much about it," said Christel Hartkamp-Bakker, a scientist and educator in Holland, when asked about the droppings her three kids (including Birgit) had been on. Because it's something they themselves went through as children, parents don't seem to think twice about droppings. And in a way, the droppings are a kind of "exposure therapy" for adults, too—exposure to letting go.
Hartkamp-Bakker was quick to point out that her girls weren't facing any real danger during their dropping. The Netherlands is extremely safe. "And you can't really get lost here in the Netherlands. You're always somewhere in reach of houses or people living somewhere," Hartkamp-Bakker says.
Dutch kids also grow up with more real-world independence than American kids do, so the dropping isn't their first time out and about on their own. Kids in Holland bike to school starting at age 5 or 6, and it's not unusual to see first-graders riding the local tram without a parent, says Pols. As the kids get older, resourcefulness is just assumed. On school trips to a new city, they may be expected to get from a museum to the hotel on their own.
Is it time to bring the dropping tradition to America? Parents here could certainly use a little help letting go. A University of Michigan/C.S. Mott Children's Hospital study last year found that the majority of American parents of children ages 9 to 11 won't let them do much unsupervised, including play at the park with a friend or trick-or-treat. Only 50 percent would let their child go to another aisle at the store.
But perhaps the Scouts could introduce the dropping as, say, a merit badge activity?
"Oh God, no," says New York City Troop 1 Scoutmaster Carolyn Casey. "If kids got dropped off in the woods and got hurt or lost, there'd be lawsuits all over the place," Casey says. She also wasn't confident about the Scouts' map and compass skills. And, she notes that unlike in the Netherlands, the woods in America are lovely, dark, and deep—and big.
Casey has been a Scout leader for 20 years. In that time, she says, "I've seen it get more cautious. On trips, we have a lot of parents coming along, a lot of safeguards."
Droppings are unlikely to make the leap from Holland to the States. Pols, who has lived in both countries, explained why he thinks that is: "America has decided, by and large, because of the way the legal system works, to essentially not do any meaningful tradeoffs, just go for the lowest risk possible." As a result, children here are constantly supervised.
The results are scarier than any moonlit forest.
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I wish my parent’s abused me like this when I was a kid. But I grew up in NH, so it was kind of a given that kids would disappear into the woods for the entire day and then come home late for meals. No one ever panicked, and no one died (often, and in that case you deserved it anyway, the gene pool thanks you).
Live Free or Die, motherfucker.
Same even 40 miles from NY city; off into the woods after school and back for supper. Just the dog and me. Freedom!
The only real warning we had in Montana was when the Sheriff sent a letter to be circulated at my High School asking that kids not just run off into the woods if their kegger got busted.
Most of the students had grown up in the area and knew at least the basics for how to get by, but since the town was in a valley, a lot of the more remote areas got kind of steep fairly quickly, and running drunk through dense branches in the dark carries a lot of risks as well.
Parents would take kids younger than 10 out camping, but something like a “dropping” in a lot of the US would entail some fairly real dangers.
Many of the forests in the USA are bigger than the entire country of the Netherlands, for starters. Of 154 designated "National Forests" in the USA, only 3 are smaller in area than the Netherlands (and one of those is only 5% smaller), then there's forested land that's protected by the State, or in Wilderness Areas, National Parks, under BLM management, and privately owned land that's largely left forested.
Then there’s the local wildlife which includes Deer (not particularly dangerous), Elk (fairly safe, but big enough to accidentally trample smaller kids, Moose (highly unpredictable and sometime extraordinarily aggressive, especially for herbivores), in many places Bears (mostly safe of you’re careful, but sometimes very lethal, especially Brown Bears), Rattlesnakes, a couple species of venomous spiders, and in certain locations also Wolves, Coyotes, Mountain Lions, Bobcats, and smaller mammals carrying anything from rabies to bubonic plague; by contrast to that the most dangerous animals in the Netherlands are goats (which are domesticated).
In many of the forests of the USA, there are also “two legged predators” patrolling and enforcing the boundaries of illegal pot farms, especially in states where legal growing is still not allowed (or states like California where it’s so heavily taxed that the illegal fields in Humboldt County never got put out of business), or “survivalist” types (some of which are kind of like the cult that raised Misek) guarding their prepper caches and bunkers where they’ll make their last stand when Kamala “comes for their guns”.
Why limit this to children? I can think of any number of adults I'd like to drop off in the woods, maybe on the Olympic Peninsula in Washington, in winter, wearing shorts and a tee shirt.
Alaska.
I’ve long advocated for domt the same to the entire d democrat party. Except I would hav them al, shipped to Antarctica.
Naked - on an ice flow - covered with seal grease - within 1km of a polar bear.
Could raise money for the whole thing by selling hunting tags.
... or just stream it on pay-per-view.
Meh. In the US, we take young kids away from families and friends and drop them into a genderless wilderness. They then have to find their own way out.
Bravo for the Dutch not being complete wusses.
(By the way, the headline is the Skenazyest headline ever.)
This is what the Overlords are doing to us with Harris, where Harris is the cat in the scenario:
In this type of therapy, a person who is afraid of something—for instance, cats—is first exposed to a cat all the way down the hall. At the next session they may be put in a room with a cat. Finally, they pet the cat or have it sit in their lap. With each exposure, the false belief that cats are a threat ebbs away. So does the belief that interacting with a cat is too much to bear.
Which are you going to pick in that third step? Kamala sits in your lap, or you have to pet her?
(Shudder)
Petting a cat.
Willy Brown.
Make your own joke.
The Dutch did something like that to Anne Frank and her family. I think the Netherlands is now doing similar to farmers who don’t bend the knee to the Moloch climate agenda. I’d be cautious about borrowing too many ideas from them.
"The Dutch did something like that to Anne Frank and her family."
Was that the Dutch or was that the NAZIs?
WHO went apeshit on January the 6th; was shit the Demon-Craps or was shit the Trumpanzees? Sometimes just a TINY-TINY bit of honesty will go a LOOOOONG ways!!!!
"WHO went apeshit on January the 6th"
You did.
And January 7th... and January 8th... and January 9th... and January 10th... and January 11th... and January 12th...
In Switzerland they don't take it that far, but they do give the kids (solo, IIRC) a destination and tell them to get there and back using the public transit system, plus their feet. You can get just about anyplace using trains, trams, post buses, cable cars (yes, for transport and not just skiing) maybe boats (I think). And my expat US colleague's kids were not exempt; it was required for graduating their final year of mandatory schooling.
I think they also did a High School trip that basically dumped them in Paris, told them not to break any French laws, and meet back for pickup at a certain time. US-Brit Mom and Dad were not sure about the concept, but the kids seem to have survived (and not gotten locked up, or any lethal STDs).
OTOH, my US high school senior neighbor had his mommy standing with him every morning for the bus, and the stop was at the corner that abutted their house.
Growing up in the 70s (yikes!) there was no organized dropping but I spent many a night in the woods with siblings and friends, It was almost a daily event in warm weather. With parental permission we'd take a canvas pup tent and sleeping bags and come home in the morning. Nobody was worried. Of course kids that grow up in shithole cities will never have that opportunity so "dropping" at summer camp would be a very good thing. Better still their parents could GTFO of these dystopian nightmares.
Dutch kids happiness is definitely because they are independent in their daily life from early on. That is because streets, the only path of mobility for any kid not on a farm, are deliberately designed so that kids can use them on their own. Compare toddler acculturation in NL to car seats and bike armor in the US. Dutch kids progress to biking/walking to school (by 7/8 at the latest). Once their first trip of the day is on their own or with a group, the rest of the day is the same. US kids progress to being chauffeured around in a car or school bus with no options for the rest of the day either.
NL and US went in different directions from their first stranger danger crisis. In NL, it was in the early 70's, when cars created child/ped/bike deaths. 500 of them in 1972. NL had Stop der Kinder Moord protests. They wanted kids to remain independent which meant streets needed to be safe for kids to use. NL streets changed and child traffic deaths are now less than 20 per year. In the US, streets didn't change, so we instead doubled down on having kids spend their childhood inside the safety cage. With our stranger danger crisis in 80's - for the purpose of pressuring ALL kids into the cage so that we could prioritize streets for cars
Another benefit re schools is – because kids are independent, schools do not have as much of a babysitting/daycare/makework function.
Data point: starting in the early 1960s.
Our elementary school moved its driveway. Our family home was now 90 feet closer to school. Just under a mile, so we were all kicked off the district’s school bus. Before that happened, we had to walk 2 or 3 blocks (1/4 mi?) to catch the bus.
When some of my siblings hit high school, the rule was that one had to be 1.5 miles from school to catch the bus, and they could make you walk a significant distance (half mi?) to the nearest stop. When I was a 4-year-old kindergartner my mother would walk me to and from school. We only had 1 car, then. By the spring I was walking that route by myself. But, hey, I was 5! Can’t stay a baby forever!
My Dad drove to work in the next village, where he taught school. He’d pack the station wagon with however many kids were enrolled in our elementary school (8, one year) and drop us off. We were expected to walk the not-quite-a-mile home. Halfway home was the public library. We could stop there to return and/or take out books, or use the reference works for a homework project. You could use the bathroom or get a drink of water. Then straight home to do homework. By the time my mother was working we were full latch-key.
When I, as an altar boy, was assigned to serve a week’s worth of daily mass, I rode my bike to school and back. I would have ridden whenever weather permitted, but my Mom wanted my older siblings & me to keep track of the younger ones. I was #5 of 9. The funny thing is, while I could walk that mile in 15 minutes with a full bookbag, one of my younger sisters would love to run ahead. Mom discouraged running home from school – thought to be dangerous and hard on school shoes and uniforms. I copied Olympic racewalkers for technique, so I could get home ASAP.
My high school was only a half mile away, so I walked to and from there, often, for 7 semesters. Semester 8 we moved 20 miles away, when we sold our house. The new district made our house the first stop on a route with a van as a school bus. Took a very nice girl on that route to prom. Ah, propinquity!
You mean to tell me small countries have small infrastructure?
Amazing.
It's almost like the people who wonder why the entire United States doesn't have amazing light rail to take you from New York to L.A. or why the entire country isn't rigged with the latest wireless communications.
They love to compare the United States to places like the Netherlands as if they are comparable when the Netherlands is about the size of Maryland. One might want to take a plane from New York to L.A. but it would be absurd to do that in the Netherlands. It may surprise some people, but the same solutions for a small country will not work in a large one that spans an entire continent.
when cars created child/ped/bike deaths. 500 of them in 1972.
Laughable pearl clutching given population, and equally laughable such a strategy would work here or even be acceptable given the tradeoffs. Maryland might be able to do that, but the United States as a whole cannot as a matter of physical geography. You know, unless part of your plan is to limit travel and put barriers in place to cross state borders.
small countries have small infrastructure?
They didn’t create their infrastructure via any big one-time projects. Nor do big federal type projects require interstates to be safe for peds and biking. They created their infrastructure – over the last 50 years – by incorporating multi-mode decisions in every annual road maintenance budget. Those initial KinderMoord protests did change the goal – to utility everyday (from anywhere to anywhere by anyone) use of bikes/peds by all demographics. Rather than, here in the US, commuting-only (the least valuable for biking) use by young male bikers who wish they had been in the Tour de France and have no problem fighting cars from their bike. At core - biking (and even more so walking) - is a mobility solution for the near-to-home. Mobility that works where you actually are rather than merely for long-distance stuff that treats everything in the middle as simply thru-traffic.
As for your stupidity re cross-country trips by bike – those Dutch who commute by bike have a 3-5 km average commute. IOW – urban. Other uses are about the same 5 km per day. But that is not very far out of whack with the US if you exclude the work commute. Most non-commute car trips are two miles or less in urban or small town. I don’t give a fuck what suburbs do in suburbs – except that they insist on controlling all transport funding/decisions at the state or federal level so that there can be no non-car mode – and cities exist only to be destroyed.
Laughable pearl clutching given population
Maybe Americans – on a ‘libertarian’ website – should be more concerned with the individual. And move governance down to a level where the individual matters. Not that I expect that here.
Drilling down - the Dutch are completely normal - unlike American biking enthusiasts.
Only 14% of Dutch commute by bike if their commute is 10km. Dropping to near zero when the commute is longer. IOW - you gotta be a fucking moron American if you think bike lanes on arterials are anything but a complete waste. The main use by bikes for longer commutes is paired with public transit of some sort - but that means need bike parking at the station/depot/stop, some bike path network to the nearby residential (not an arterial), and existence of public transit.
Dutch kids virtually all commute to school by bike if the distance is less than 4-5 km. For them to be safe, parents are usually not allowed to drop off kids AT the school because those cars hit everyone else's kid and impede traffic. And they eliminate all thru traffic around school. Honestly, that's a lot better than speed limit signs and expensive lights/etc on roads designed to be safe at 50 mph.
Most Dutch biking by adults is shopping/errands - with an average of 2 km per trip. For walking the average is 1000 feet per trip (3 blocks or so). That is mostly about multi-use or checkerboard type zoning at the beginning. Vast wastelands of R1 zoning/developments will never generate biking because there are no destinations nearby. But this is where biking can occur in cities.
BTW - What is the 'tradeoff' of kids being independent at a young age and not having to be chauffeured around everywhere?
The problem is that American kids wouldn't have the slightest clue what to do. They'd pull out their cell phone, and then start sobbing when there's no wifi. Then, after a couple hours of that, they'd start shouting, "HELLO?? CAN ANYONE HEAR ME? MY PRONOUNS ARE THEY/THEM! HEEELLLOOOO??" Then, when that fails, they might look for food - but quickly realize that they're probably on indigenous people's land and that taking even a single blackberry from a bush would be an act of colonialist oppression. Eventually though, they'd realize that they need to eat or starve and come across some local wildfowl - at which point they'd likely have to fight an illegal Haitian who's on his lunch break to the death for it. And they'd lose. And the illegal would then probably rape their corpse.
After chasing after the goose - which escapes the child's grasp. The child finally settles on eating a neighborhood cat.
Yeah, give kids a false sense of security about cats. See how that works out.
That is where Haitian au pairs come in handy.
Have you tried finding an Au Pair lately? It’s work that lazy Americans on the dole don’t want to do and Trump won’t let in enough Haitians. A lot of kids have no choice except to ride around on food trucks and make tasty chalupas. And then they find out they'll never get any FAFSA cash.
When Trump is president again, he needs to set up a refugee program for Eastern European models displaced by the war in Ukraine. This can later be expanded to other regions. Within a few years, America would solve the Ratio problem and eliminate sausagefests nationwide. We would also become the world’s sole super power of hot chicks.
It’s only fitting Melania become the Hot Chick Czar.
Well, there are other countries to hire from:
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13824903/au-pair-accused-murder-plot-boss-affair.html
Seems obvious to me that childless cat ladies are unleashing this horror on other peoples kids. We can only hope that right thinking Americans can claw back their freedoms.
And yet they still manage to grow up to be nanny state enthusiasts.
Curious.
Once upon a time this nation was "the land of the free" till the 'democratic' [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] voted to turn it into a h*llhole with a "New Deal" that conquered and destroyed "the land of the free".
Maybe the "New Deal" was necessary at the time. But the institutions of the New Deal have become like Frankenstein monsters. They have become so big and powerful, and absorb so much of the resources and energy of the country that they have become parasitic. Roosveltian solutions are no longer relevant or effective today.
Oddly – the FDR ‘solution’ of 1930 was not the FDR solution of 1932. We should pay more attention to the former. From a radio speech of Mar 1930 –
The whole success of our democracy has not been that it is a democracy where the will of a bare majority of the total inhabitants is imposed on the minority, but because it has been a democracy where through a division of government into states and lesser units, the rights and interests of the minority have been respected and given a voice in the control of our affairs…The doctrine of regulation and legislation by ‘master minds’, in whose judgement and will all the people may gladly acquiesce, has been too glaringly apparent in Washington for the last 10 years.
Of course he wasn’t accurate in his assessment – but this speech is a better characterization of the traditional view of ‘centralized governance’ and the value of decentralization than anything today. And imo it would be extraordinarily helpful to bring in FDR on the side of decentralization now.
It's more reasonable to assume he was lying since all his actions after the fact were in direct opposition to any notion of decentralized government.
In fact, he probably did understand the concept since he so thoroughly destroyed it. That's hard to accomplish without knowledge of the thing you intend to destroy.
No he wasn’t lying. He changed during 1930-1932 – and there are two speeches during 1932 that show that change.
In early 1930, his big issue re New York (where he was Gov) was anti-Prohibition. FDR wanted to put prohibition into a ‘state’s rights’ framing to (re)carry the South while repealing Prohibition (which was his 2nd act in office). But it wasn’t just Prohibition.
His 1932 campaign attacked Hoover as a technocrat. Pejoratively, a ‘master mind’. But the Depression proved that the combination of Hoover’s ideology and actions was a disaster. FDR had a positive record as Gov of NY.
What turned the New Deal into a bigger deal came after the election and during Hoover’s lame duck period. The final bank runs of Feb 1933 meant all banks in all states were closed under state declared bank holidays by the time FDR entered office. Only national banks existed and they didn’t have retail customers. That’s a very clean slate – with no one advocating ‘do nothing’. It was the first 100 days that gave the FDR the hubris to keep pushing it. Power corrupts.
25 years ago, one of my kids was a skater. It gave him the opportunity to push the envelope as far as he could. It gave him a lot of confidence. What was unbelievable was how the school bureaucracy treated him and the other skaters. They were accused of drugs and other law breaking. They were constantly bad mouthed to other kids and parents, but were actually good kids who had a “question authority” mentality.
Thou Shalt SNOT “question authority”!!!
So sayeth Government Almighty... OBEY or be cast OUT!!!
Lol. Bet he had a “SKATING IS NOT A CRIME” t-shirt too.
They tend to have a persecution complex.
I got one of those shirts from a skater friend. I modified the back of the shirt to say ‘but it should be’, just to fuck with him.
And the slush melting from their blades must have annoyed the custodians!
There are ice skaters, roller skaters and then there are skateboarders. There is nothing wrong with skateboards that brakes wouldn't fix. 🙂
Next vocabulary curmudgeon episode: No, a motorcyclist is not a "biker." 🙂
In the Netherlands they can do this kind of thing, and hooray for them! They have few if any "beasts of prey" lusting after fresh young people-meat!
In ancient Isreali times, they cast their sins upon an innocent goat, and sacrificed the innocent domesticated goats (to cleanse the sins of the humans, the Jews in this case) and left the starving goats to be devoured by beasts of prey, in the desert. NOT so cool! Kinda like Trump and Vance with respect to illegal sub-humans ass "scape goats"!!!! READ Leviticus, ye Bible-bangers!!!
Thousands of American men and boys, women and girls too I would think, have memories of something somewhat similar in their scouting days. We would be led away singly from the scout camp by a counselor or two, who would plant us in some spot with a flashlight and a paper bag. You know what I'm talking about. My memory of that is buying into it at first, then getting bored, then basically saying "Fuck this" and walking back to camp. I don't remember feeling fear at any point. That was in a Wisconsin bottomland, by the way.
I'm a bit foggy about when and where my children went off on their own. I do feel sure that I didn't keep them from roaming out of fear for their safety (that was their mother's schtick). The truth is that I wanted to be with them and go off with them, to the park nearby, on bikes to the river and beyond, and to the nearest sledding and tobogganing hill. I was almost always with them on hikes up the bluffs in my home town. I didn't just drop them off at the riding stable--I wanted to ride too.
This is a thorny issue of course. In some of the most salient respects the US and the Netherlands are very, very different. The population of the US is much more diverse than that of the Netherlands. Roaming probably means different things to people in diverse communities. For some it may be the annual freedom of scout or church camp, while for others it might mean knowing that the kids on your block can safely play outside on the street. I have no doubt, however, that these forms of free roaming are really good for kids, and we should in our own communities promote and provide more of that freedom whenever possible.
If more kids did this kind of thing, we probably wouldn’t have the levels of depression, anxiety, and gender dysphoria we see now in the youths.
Not giving prepubescent boys and teens drugs for displaying normal masculine behavior would be a huge plus too.
Scouting might be a bad example.
> Thousands of American men and boys, women and girls too I would think, have memories of something somewhat similar in their scouting days. We would be led away singly from the scout camp by a counselor or two, who would plant us in some spot with a flashlight and a paper bag. You know what I’m talking about. My memory of that is buying into it at first, then getting bored, then basically saying “Fuck this” and walking back to camp...
Aw. You never caught any snipes? My first snipe hunt here in GA was an exciting adventure when we caught three in the first hour. In reality, our activity that night stirred up a family of voles, but the Scout Masters convinced us that we really had caught the mythical snipe!
In 6th grade we went to camp in Potosi and had something like this. "Orienteering". They would drop us off in trios and we would have to find our way back using a compass.
Scouts still do this:
https://www.scouting.org/merit-badges/orienteering/
There ought to be an Avoid The Pervy Scout Leader badge, though.
You know who else should be blindfolded and dropped off in the woods in the middle of the night?
During Army Basic Training there was an exercise tagged “Escape and Evasion” in which all the recruits were dropped off one at a time along a dirt road after dark from north to south (so we knew the general direction of east) and our only instructions were to head east to the highway on the other side of the wilderness - where the truck would pick us back up - without getting captured. As an incentive everyone captured had to crawl through a mud pit into the POW Camp. They told us we had to make it to the highway before midnight. My strategy was to wait as long as possible near the starting point and I and my partner arranged before the drop-off to meet up and “evade” together. We made it to the highway about five minutes before midnight – the truck driver was angry at us but technically we were within the rules so we earned the brownie points and a measure of satisfaction at arriving back at the barracks sans muddy mess!
I had a similar epiphany as an adult when I took a week trip to the boundary waters. A group of 9 of us in 3 canoes, carrying everything we needed to survive that time literally on our backs. I had never even been camping before so it was a deep plunge for me. But I came out of it feeling confident and just enjoying life more.
America, the land of the weakassed
DiVeRsItY is tHeIr StRenGtH.