When Attacks on Anarchists Accidentally Improved Free Speech Law
After the crackdown on anarchists died down, it became more difficult to imagine anyone could go to jail in America solely for political heresy.

American Anarchy: The Epic Struggle between Immigrant Radicals and the US Government at the Dawn of the Twentieth Century, by Michael Willrich, Basic Books, 480 pages, $35
The lawmaking and policing powers of late 19th and early 20th century America did not think anarchist agitators deserved the protective penumbra of our Constitution. After Emma Goldman immigrated to the United States in 1885 from czarist Russia, she became a dynamic and hugely popular traveling lecturer on anarchism and other rebellious causes, such as draft resistance and contraception. Consequently, she was arrested a lot—and in 1919, along with hundreds of other accused anarchists, she was deported to what was now Bolshevik Russia. (Goldman's version of anarchism was not the free market kind; she wanted to eliminate private property as well as the state.)
Many anarchists saw a bright side to these legal fights: an opportunity to preach their beliefs in a courtroom setting, where the press often amplified their message. The anarchists sentenced to death in the notorious 1886 Chicago Haymarket bombing case spent three days in court laying out their beliefs; in one of their own trials, Goldman and her sometime consort and lifelong comrade, Alexander Berkman, settled for five hours of speaking their anarchist minds.
Berkman did more than lecture against the state and capitalism; in 1892 he decided to try to kill a murderously strikebreaking Carnegie Steel factory manager, Henry Frick. (While he shot and stabbed Frick, he failed to kill him.) This did not help public opinion of their cause. Neither did the fact that Leon Czolgosz, the 1901 assassin of President William McKinley, was a self-proclaimed anarchist who claimed that Goldman's rhetoric had "set me on fire."
In American Anarchy, the Brandeis historian Michael Willrich argues that those legal battles surrounding anarchism in America forged two distinct and opposing elements of modern American policing and law.
On one hand, the anarchists' enemies, from New York City cops to military intelligence to the departments of Labor and Justice, built a wider and more intrusive system of political surveillance and repression to quell and expel the anarchists. These systems' techniques—often relying on frequently unreliable, nativist, and paranoid citizen snoops and snitches—might seem quaint in the post–Edward Snowden age. They also seem especially brutal, given the cops of that era's habit of giving "the third degree" (that is, terrible beatings) to seditious radicals, and to people the officers merely assumed were seditious radicals. Many prosecutions hinged on the accuracy, or not, of some cop's written notes on what a suspect had allegedly said in public.
This repressive apparatus, Willrich writes, was "cobbled…together by putting public power in the hands of private civilian operatives, harnessing local police to national purposes, and drawing upon surveillance technologies developed both in the U.S.-ruled Philippines and in the internal immigrant 'colonies' of New York." The result was "an inefficient and stunningly violent operation that foiled few actual plots, put thousands of people on trial for speaking out against capitalism or the war….and showed an almost total disregard for…constitutional liberties."
And that planted the seeds of these battles' second great effect: Ironically, they ultimately made First Amendment doctrine more respectful of free expression. After the crackdown on the anarchists died down, and past the Cold War repressions under the Smith Act, it became more difficult to imagine anyone could go to jail in America solely for saying or writing a political heresy. Even when people are targeted for their speech, propriety requires that a more substantial charge be added. (The modern inheritor of the mantle of "enemy for whom constitutional protections can be ignored" is the drug seller and user, though different amendments are implicated.)
Three prosecutions during the World War I–era crackdown on political dissidents under the Espionage Act ended up before the Supreme Court. Free expression lost every time. But in Abrams v. United States, based on a 1918 expansion of the Espionage Act known as the Sedition Act, a dissent signed by two justices established an attitude toward the First Amendment's reach that became standard over the course of the 20th century.
In August 1918, the Army Corps of Intelligence Police had arrested a group of Russian immigrants in New York for distributing allegedly seditious pamphlets. The defendants insisted that the literature—many copies of which were tossed out windows for passersby on the street—was not meant to impede the ongoing U.S. war efforts against Germany, that being the basis for many of the charges. The literature was rather opposed to U.S. interference in revolutionary Russia, with whom we were not at constitutionally declared war.
The Abrams defendants were represented by Goldman's lawyer, Harry Weinberger. His role in Willrich's narrative is as central as hers and Berkman's. (Willrich argues that the war on anarchists essentially created the modern figure of the civil liberties lawyer.) The Supreme Court upheld the convictions, 7–2. But a dissent authored by Justice Oliver Wendell Holmes (who had written the earlier, bad decisions in the Espionage Act cases) laid out a First Amendment vision that more strictly limits when government could constitutionally punish expression: only if said expression represents a "present danger of immediate evil or an intent to bring it about."
After reading the dissent, a future founder of the American Civil Liberties Union wrote to Weinberger that "we are going to put it to some use all right." Civil libertarians in and out of the judiciary have been doing so ever since, in ways that have expanded Americans' expressive rights.
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Things got predictably worse for civil liberties and for anarchists as the war went on. The 1918 Immigration Act, as Willrich sums it up, "authorized the secretary of labor to deport any person identified as a noncitizen and an anarchist." Even your individual beliefs could be elided, since "being a member of an organization that advocated 'anarchistic' ideas was now sufficient cause for deportation." Having built your life here productively for decades and having a family was not enough to save you from being grabbed and shipped out, if a government official thought you didn't believe the state should exist. (In 1903, during the post-Czolgosz wave of anti-anarchist action, Congress passed an immigration law that barred entry to anarchists, though it was difficult to enforce and in its first seven years caught a mere 10 anarchists among millions of immigrants entering.)
The story of the anarchist crackdown is, for good reasons, often used as a crackerjack historical example of the anti-liberty madness that even the supposed land of the free can descend to. This wave of anarchist repression was indeed destructive to many people and organizations—the Industrial Workers of the World, for example, were nearly annihilated by mass raids and arrests.
But the aftermath of these authoritarian spasms suggests we should give at least half a cheer for the Constitution. The rights it lays out were sorely dishonored, but at least they could be called upon eventually.
After World War I ended, President Woodrow Wilson commuted sentences for more than 125 Espionage Act prisoners. One assistant secretary of labor—Louis Post, who actually respected the Constitution—canceled 1,140 deportation orders, nearly three-quarters of the cases he was able to review when briefly in command of the process. The notorious 1919 and 1920 Palmer Raids sent 500 accused radicals to Ellis Island for deportation, but as public opinion and the grinding of the courts turned against the mania, only 23 of them were actually deported. And in 1933, President Franklin Roosevelt gave a general amnesty to the remaining World War I–era political prisoners.
Contrast that with Russia, where many of the anarchists were deported. The Bolshevik state murdered many of them, including two of the Abrams defendants.
Willrich's richly detailed study is especially relevant today, as that expansive sense of First Amendment rights that Willrich traces back to Holmes' Abrams dissent is under fresh fire from legal academics who see the amendment as a barrier to progressive change, from young Americans who think certain possibly hurtful things ought not be legally spoken, and from a culture that in general seems increasingly and angrily eager to shut opponents up. This valuable book shows one big reason why an expansive reading of the First Amendment is important: Without it, human beings have been beaten by cops and exiled from their home, just for saying or writing things the authorities don't like.
Goldman, for one, thought America was better than that. She once told a huge crowd in New York City that when people like her denounced war and conscription, they did this not because "we are foreigners and don't care." They had come here "looking to America as the promised land," and they grappled with the country's errors "precisely because we love America."
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Led by lying Jews to whom propaganda was a way of life and when that failed to achieve their desired coercion they had no problem using physical coercion, assasinations, to achieve their goals.
So much for their perspective of free speech.
Refuted.
Refuted.
Retarded.
Jooooooooooooooooooooooooz!
Put it on your Bingo card.
Misek thinks the Holocaust didn't happen, and that they deserved it.
My longtime Usenet ally, Christopher Charles Morton, was right about you and your fellow dreckvolk on December 1, 1998!
https://groups.google.com/g/talk.politics.guns/c/-ENhx2MflJ4/m/sOvMWLTeQHkJ
What is a Nazi?
A Nazi is above all else, a craven coward.
A Nazi is afraid to compete with others as equals because he knows he
can't measure up.
A Nazi is afraid of his own inadequacy, so he wants to murder his
betters.
A Nazi is afraid of the truth, so he wants to murder those who tell
it.
A Nazi is afraid of history, so he wants to murder the past, to wipe
out the knowledge of the degeneracy, cowardice and failure of National
Socialism.
Finally, a Nazi is afraid of the power of educated, informed adults.
Freedom of choice terrifies him... which is why he chooses minor
children as sexual partners. He can't interact with competent adults
in a consensually sexual way. He needs to be able to impose himself
on a helpless victim, be it a prepubescent boy, or a patient in a
mental hospital.
These are the things that a Nazi is, and there's nothing polite or
honest about it.
NAZIs believe in political violence and so they say shit like "Hang Mike Pence!"
Noooo... Nazis say things like what Misek just said, but they also say things like this:
SQRLSY One 6 hours ago
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Hitler lied (maybe, it’s not a lie if you believe it. Or if it turns out to be true). Maybe the German Jews DID stab Germany in the back in WW I!
The truth is WHATEVER YOU BELIEVE!
SQRLSY One
September.30.2020 at 12:53 pm
Yes! This FURTHER proves that Hitler was NOT a racist!
Since even Hitler wasn’t a racist, we can pretty firmly conclude that racism isn’t a “thing” at all!
SQRLSY One
November.1.2020 at 8:51 am
Here, this is a pretty good match! Every asshole is a good, right, and TRUE, benevolent asshole!
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/tag/hitler
“My spirit will rise from the grave and the world will see I was right.”
― Adolf Hitler
SQRLSY One
April.4.2022 at 8:14 pm
All Hail the book-burners! Sieg Heil!
He also eats his own shit.
He even admitted it.
Citation please, evil liar!
Too bad he didn't include Communists.
Almost the same thing. This includes the democrat party.
The only difference is branding.
Not even close. Anyone who calls Democrats communists shows that they don't know the first thing about what communism is.
Nah, democrats just want people to own nothing and be happy.
Refuted.
Oh, and Misek, are you a neo Nazi/KKK, or an Islamist? Or are you too much of a pussy to answer the question?
Harris appreciates your support.
Wouldn’t Misek appreciate her “strength through joy” campaign?
Which of these hundreds of newspaper articles written before WW2 by Jews, claiming that 6 million Jews were victims of holocausts were the truth?
And which were written by lying wastes of skin “still living the propaganda” aka lying, to beg as THE POOOR PERSECUTED JEWS for money, entitlements and Palestine?
1900 — Stephen S. Wise, New York Times, June 11, 1900
“There are 6,000,000 living, bleeding, suffering arguments in favor of Zionism.”
1902 — Encyclopedia Britannica, 10th Edition, Vol. 25, 1902, page 482
“While there are in Russia and Rumania six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…”
1902 — Samuel W. Goldstein, New York Times, November 27, 1902
“PLEA FOR ZIONISM…In answer I would say: Does Dr. Silverman represent the 6,000,000 Jews in Russia, 300,000 in Roumania and the 1,000,000 in Galicia?”
1903 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 18th, 1903, page 6
“…six million downtrodden brethren.”
1904 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 19th, 1904, page 2
“…where five or six million people existed under persecution.”
1904 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 7th, 1904, page 1
“…the final and definite deliverance of the six millions of Russian, Roumanian and Galician Jews…transporting five or six million people over the sea.”
1904 — Israel Zangwill, New York Times, October 20, 1904
“The problem does not relate to the American Jews, but to the 6,000,000 in Russia. The Russian Government has consented to allow the Jews to leave,”
1905 — New York Times, January 29th, 1905
“He declared that a free and a happy Russia, with its 6,000,000 Jews, would possibly mean the end of Zionism, since the abolition of the autocracy would practically eliminate the causes that brought Zionism into existence.”
1905 — New York Times, November 1st, 1905
“From 1800 to 1902 he caused 6,000,000 Jewish families to be expelled from Russia…”
1906 — New York Times, March 25th, 1906
“…the condition and future of Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews were made on March 12 in Berlin to the annual meeting of the Central Jewish Relief League of Germany by Dr. Paul Nathan…He left St. Petersburg with the firm conviction that the Russian Government’s studied policy for the “solution” of the Jewish question is systematic and murderous extermination.”
1907 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), October 18th, 1907, page 13
“…for six million people cannot emigrate.”
1908 — Deseret Evening News, March 17th, 1908
“…poverty, starvation and disease are the afflictions which now beset thesix million Jews in that country and Roumania.”
1908 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), August 7th, 1908
“…when six million Russian Jews are crying…”
1910 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), February 4th, 1910
“SIX MILLION BABIES SAVED BY STRAUS.”
1911 — Encyclopedia Britannica, 11th Edition, Vol. 2, 1911, page 145
“While there remain in Russia and Rumania over six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…”
1911 — Max Nordeau speaking at The 1911 Zionist Congress. Hecht, Ben. Perfidy. NY; Julian Messner. 1961. page 254
“But the same righteous Governments, who are so nobly, industriously active to establish the eternal peace, are preparing, by their own confession, complete annihilation for six million people,”
1911 — Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (IN), June 4th, 1911, page 15
“PRINCE, PRIEST AND PEASANT WAGE WAR AGAINST SIX MILLION JEWS”
1911 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), August 18th, 1911, page 14
“Very soon a fervid Russian patriotism will reign in every Ghetto, and the melting-up of the race begin. But this absorption of the five or six million Jews…”
1911 — Max Nordeau, The Jewish Chronicle (London), August 18th, 1911, page 14
“…the downfall of six million creatures…for no war has ever yet destroyed six million human lives.”
1911 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), August 25th, 1911
“…six million Jews are still groaning under the most terrible yoke.”
1911 — Max Nordeau, The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 1st, 1911, page 3
“…the downfall of six million creatures…for no war has ever yet destroyed six million human lives.”
1911 — Max Nordeau, The Reform Advocate (Chicago), September 9th, 1911
“…the downfall of six million creatures…for no war has ever yet destroyed six million human lives.”
1911 — New York Times, October 31st, 1911
“The 6,000,000 Jews of Russia are singled out for systematic oppression and for persecution due to process of law.”
1912 — American Jewish Year Book 5672 (23 Sept. 1911–11 Sept. 1912), page 308
“Russia has since 1890 adopted a deliberate plan to expel or exterminate six millions of its people for no other reason than that they refuse to become members of the Greek Church, but prefer to remain Jews.”
1912 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), January 5th, 1912
“…more than six million Jews reside in small towns and villages there is no Sabbath question.”
1912 — Rabbi Stephen S. Wise, New York Tribune, September 11th, 1912, page 9
“Russia is now asphyxiating the Jews. It does not dare to offend the nations by blood spilling, so it is slowly, but surely grinding out the lives of 6,000,000 Jews.”
1913 — Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (IN), October 18th, 1913, page 4
“There are six million Jews in Russia and the government is anxious to annihilate them by methods that provoke protests from the civilized world.”
1914 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), July 10th, 1914, page 9
“…where six million Jews are suffering…”
1914 — New York Times, December 2nd, 1914, page 12
“APPEAL FOR AID FOR JEWS….the plight of more than 6,000,000 Jews…upon the Jewish people, more than nine millions of whom live in the countries at war and over six million of these in the actual war zone in Poland, Galicia and the whole of Russian frontier.”
1915 — New York Times, January 14th, 1915, page 3
“In the world today there are about 13,000,000 Jews, of whom more than 6,000,000 are in the heart of the war zone; Jews whose lives are at stake and who today are subjected to every manner of suffering and sorrow…”
1915 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), March 19th, 1915
“How the casting of six million people into the deepest abyss of servitude and outlawry is to relieve tension we cannot understand.”
1915 — The Sun (NY), June 6, 1915, section 5, page 1
“Six million Jews, one-half of the Jewish people throughout the world, are being persecuted, hounded, humiliated, tortured, starved….six million Jews in Russia…are being tortured so mercilessly.”
1915 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), June 25th, 1915
“The annihilation of the six million Jews now congregated in the Russian domains goes on in a well defined and systematic manner.”
1915 — Jacob de Hass, The Boston Sunday Globe, September 26th, 1915, page 46
“Indeed the only point that all warring elements are agreed upon is that at the end of the holocaust the Jews and Palestine will be more closely related than at present.”
1915 — New York Tribune, October 14th, 1915
“What the Turks are doing to Armenians is child’s play compared to what Russia is doing to six million Jews, her own subjects.”
1915 — The Mercury, December 4th, 1915
“…six millions of Russian and Polish Jews are to-day the most pitiable victims of that race hatred and that race fanaticism which have been the creed of Germany…”
1916 — The Jews in the Eastern War Zone, The American Jewish Committee, 1916
“…where six million human beings guilty only of adherence to the Jewish faith are compelled to live out their lives in squalor and misery, in constant terror of massacre…estimated at six million or more…of these six million people…a kind of prison with six million inmates…The persons most affected, the six million Jews of Russia…The Jews are loyal and brave, and it is most inadvisable to pursue a policy which might convert six million subjects into enemies….the six million Jews of Russia still continued…nearly three of the six million…”
1916 — Oakland Tribune (CA), January 25th, 1916, page 1
“The President of the United States — 6,000,000 Starving, Homeless, People — and January 27th Why should the President, by proclamation to the people of the nation, fix upon january 27th as the day for contributing towards the relief of over six million Jews located in the Far Eastern War Zone?”
1916 — Oakland Tribune (CA), January 26th, 1916, page 1 (FRONT PAGE ADVERT 2 DAYS RUNNING)
“The President of the United States — 6,000,000 Starving, Homeless, People — and January 27th Why should the President, by proclamation to the people of the nation, fix upon January 27th as the day for contributing towards the relief of over six million Jews located in the Far Eastern War Zone?”
1916 — North Devon Journal, March 9th, 1916, page 7
“In Poland, in Southern and Western Russia, six million Jews resided when the War broke out. They lived there in the pale of settlement, in poverty, and were terribly overcrowded.”
1916 — Fort Wayne Journal Gazette (IN), March 12th, 1916, page 34
“…six million Jews reported starving in the warring countries.”
1916 — The Tacoma Times, February 28th, 1916
“…there were 6,000,000 Jews in Europe absolutely without food or resources.”
1916 — New York Times, February 28th, 1916
“Nearly six million Jews are ruined in the greatest moral and material misery; millions of them are refugees, dependent upon the good will of their brethren.”
1916 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), March 3rd, 1916
“Nearly six million Jews are ruined.”
1916 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), March 31st, 1916, page 6
“Position of the Jews in Russia. The Jews in Russia, numbering about six million, are denied full political and civil rights and are economically oppressed.”
1916 — El Paso Herald, April 22nd, 1916, page 5
“Six Million Jews Are Deprived Of Papers By Russian Censorship….Six million Jews have been robbed of their newspapers.”
1916 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), August 4th, 1916
“…six million Jews…”
1917 — Corsicana Daily Sun, February 16th, 1917, page 2
“Six million Jews are living in lands where they are oppressed, exploited, crushed and robbed of every inalienable human right.”
1918 — Fort Wayne News and Sentinel (IN), June 22nd, 1918, page 1
“In the war zone of Europe there are six million Jews who have been the war’s worst sufferers,”
1918 — The Columbus Jewish Chronicle, June 28th, 1918, page 1
“Claims Palestine Has Room For Six Million…”It is quite possible for Palestine to find room for five to six millions…800,000 hectares will suffice to produce the food of six millions of people,”
1918 — The Bakersfield Californian, July 30th, 1918, page 4
“… the six million starving Jews in Poland, Galicia and other stricken Eastern provinces…”
1918 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), September 5th, 1918
“…Russia, where the bulk of the Jewish people to the number of well oversix million still dwell, is a land of blood and midnight darkness.”
1918 — The Columbus Jewish Chronicle, September 13th, 1918, page 1
“The report describes the havoc the war has caused among the six million Jews of Russia. Driven by the invading armies, the Jews have been compelled to flee from their homes;”
1918 — New York Times, October 18th, 1918
“Six million Souls Will Need Help to Resume Normal Life When War Is Ended….Committee of American Jews Lays Plans for the Greatest Humanitarian Task in History….6,000,000 Jews Need Help.”
1919 — The Bourbon News, April 1st, 1919, p.4
“… six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia who are dying of starvation,”
1919 — The Corsicana Daily Sun, April 3rd, 1919, p.5
“SIX MILLION ARE STARVING…It is estimated that there are six million Jewish women, children and aged men actually starving to death.”
1919- The Galveston Daily News, April 4th, 1919, page 3
“Six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia are dying of starvation….These six million despairing souls are totally dependent on American generosity for the bare necessities of life.”
1919 — The Watchman and Southron, April 5th, 1919
“Six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia are dying of starvation….These six million despairing souls are totally dependent on American generosity for the bare necessities of life.”
1919 — The Galveston Daily News, April 5th, 1919, page 5
“Six million Jews are dying of starvation.”
1919 — The Galveston Daily News, April 6th, 1919, page 8
“The American Jewish Relief Committee is endeavoring to save from starvation six million Jews who are the helpless victims of the German terror.”
1919 — El Paso Herald., April 7th, 1919
“…to save from starvation six million Jews who are the helpless victims of the German Terror.”
1919 — San Antonio Express, April 8th, 1919, page 15
“The American Jewish Relief Committee is endeavoring to save from starvation six million Jews who are the helpless victims of the German terror.”
1919 — The Corsicana Daily Sun, April 9th, 1919, page 8
“THE AMERICAN JEWISH RELIEF COMMITTEE IS ENDEAVOURING TO SAVE FROM STARVATION SIX MILLION JEWS WHO ARE THE HELPLESS VICTIMS OF THE GERMAN TERROR”
1919- San Antonio Express, April 9th, 1919, page 12
“At no other time in the history of the Jewish people has the need been so great as now. Six million of our brothers and sisters are dying of starvation. The entire race is threatened with extinction.”
1919 — The Wellington Leader (TX), April 11th, 1919, page 1
“We wish to call the attention of our people to the great drive that is on to raise funds for the relief of the six million Jews who are starving in the war ridden districts of the east.”
1919 — The Corsicana, Semi-Weekly Light, April 11th, 1919, page 5
“THE AMERICAN JEWISH RELIEF COMMITTEE IS ENDEAVOURING TO SAVE FROM STARVATION SIX MILLION JEWS WHO ARE THE HELPLESS VICTIMS OF THE GERMAN TERROR”
1919 — The Daily Courier (PA), August 4th, 1919, section 2, page 1
“APPEALS TO AMERICA TO ACT QUICKLY IF LIVES OF SOME SIX MILLION JEWS ARE TO BE SAVED…The lives of some six million people are at stake.”
1919 — The Fulton Patriot, September 3rd, 1919, page 4
“WORLD JEWRY AT GREATEST CRISIS Leaders in America Striving to Save Race in Europe From Destruction….All told, many million Christians and more than 6,000,000 Jews in countries other than the United States are being directly aided by American Jewish relief funds.”
1919 — New York Times, September 8th, 1919, page 6
“127,000 Jews Have Been Killed and 6,000,000 Are in Peril….6,000,000 souls in Ukrainia and in Poland have received notice through action and by word that they are going to be completely exterminated — this fact stands before the whole world as the paramount issue of the present day.”
1919 — The Fort Wayne News and Sentinel, September 17th, 1919, section 2, page 1
“…six million Jews are dying of starvation and where vast numbers of them — innocent victims of the ravages of war — wander homeless, and in rags.”
1919 — Rushville Daily Republican, September 29th, 1919, page 4
“The thought that as I walk the streets of this properous and happy town there are 6,000,000 people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing….When I read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or my religion….Six million people perishing!”
1919 — Tipton Tribune, September 29th, 1919, page 2
“The thought that as I walk the streets of this properous and happy town there are 6,000,000 people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing….When I read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or my religion….Six million people perishing!”
1919 — The Washington Democrat, October 2nd, 1919, page 1
“The thought that as I walk the streets of this prosperous and happy town there are 6,000,000 people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing….When I read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or my religion….Six million people perishing!”
1919 — Fort Wayne Journal Gazette, October 1st, 1919, page 4
“The thought that as I walk the streets of this prosperous and happy town there are 6,000,000 people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing….When I read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or my religion….Six million people perishing!”
1919 — Janesville Daily Gazette (WI), October 4th, 1919, page 4
“…the Feast Day of Rosh Hashonah. It was not a feast day for some six million starving Jews of Europe because every day for the past four years has been a fast day for them….the five year fast that has been the lot of the 6,000,000 Jews in Europe.”
1919 — Sheboygan Press (WI), October 4th, 1919, page 2
“…the Feast Day of Rosh Hashonah. It was not a feast day for some six million starving Jews of Europe because every day for the past four years has been a fast day for them….the five year fast that has been the lot of the 6,000,000 Jews in Europe.”
1919 — The Fort Wayne Journal-Gazette (IN), October 6th, 1919, page 3
“With six million of their population in absolute want, they are unable alone to render sufficient aid…There are to-day to be found in the ten provinces of Russia, Poland and the fifteen provinces called the ‘Pale of Settlement’ six millions of these peaceful and law abiding people…We do not see with our eyes the evidences of want and degradation into which six million Jews have been thrown suddenly through no fault of their own.”
1919 — Indiana Weekly Messenger, October 9th, 1919, page 1 & 4
“Life for six millions in the shadow of death!…Six millions mean what?…Six million souls, old men, old women, and little children in Poland, Lithuania, Russia, Palestine, Glaicia, Turkey, Syria, Roumania, Greece, and Bulgaria are in imminent danger of starving to death this winter….The responsibility of maintaining life in these six million sufferers rests upon every man and woman in the United States…Helping the Jews in their extremity is not helping the Bolsheviks,” the speaker emphatically declared.”
1919 — Schenectady Gazette, October 16th, 1919, page 15
“Today 6,000,000 Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known in the Long History of the Race.”
1919 — Titusville Herald, October 18th, 1919, page 4
“… Jewish Relief Fund…Contribute Today, the Last Day and Help Save From Death Six Millions of Starving People.”
1919 — San Francisco Chronicle, October 19th, 1919, page 18
“6,000,000 JEWS IN BREAD LINE, STRAUS WRITES. More Than Third of Entire Race in World Reduced to Despair in Europe….Six million Jews, out of the 16,000,000 in the world…”
1919 — Cape Vincent Eagle, October 23rd, 1919
“…there are six million people in other lands without food, shelter or raiment is disturbing….When read, as I have read all my life, of the persecution and slaughter of the Jews I am not proud of my own race or of my religion.”
1919 — The American Hebrew, October 31st, 1919, page 582
“The Crucifixion of Jews Must Stop! From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help…Within them reside the illimitable possibilities for the advancement of the human race as naturally would reside in six million human beings….In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate, only the most idealistic promptings of human nature should sway the heart and move the hand. Six million men and women are dying from lack of the necessaries of life […] bigoted lust for Jewish blood. In this threatened holocaust of human life in the name of the humanity of Moses to six million famished men and women. Six million men and women are dying…six million Jewish men and women are starring across the seas…”
1919 — The Evening Tribune Providence, October 31st, 1919, page 11
“In the midst of our campaign for the relief of the six million Jews of Eastern Europe…”
1919 — The Record (Johnson City, NY), November 1st, 1919, page 8
“There are 6,000,000 Jews in eastern Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America for aid.”
1919 — Beatrice Daily Sun (NE), November 8th, 1919, page 2
“The territory which Mr. Hoover visited is but a part of that in which 6,000,000 Jews, suffers of war and war’s equally horrible after-math, stand helpless today,…The Need: SIX MILLION STARVING SOULS. Six million Jews in Poland, Lithuania, Galicia, Palestine, Turkey and Siberia are dying of starvation….These six million despairing souls are totally dependent on American generosity for the bare necessities of life. The Object: $35,000,000 for 6,000,000 LIVES”
1919 — Lebanon Daily News (PA), November 11th, 1919, page 2
“DISEASE AND STARVATION IN POLAND Lieut. Wright Tells of Half Starved People Clad in Rags BREAD OUT OF LEAVES Says 6,000,000 Face Death This Winter Unless Given Immediate Relief…6,000,000 Face Death…Six million Jews in eastern Europe face death during the coming winter,”
1919 — Felix M. Warburg, New York Times, November 12th, 1919
“The Jews were the worst sufferers in the war. The successive blows of contending armies have all but broken the back of European Jewry and have reduced to tragically unbelievable poverty, starvation and disease about6,000,000 souls, or half the Jewish population of the earth.”
1919 — Gouvernur Free Press, November 12th, 1919
“Six Million Men and Women Are Dying… Won’t You Help Them?…From across the sea six million men and women call to us for help…in six million human beings…In this catastrophe, when six million human beings are being whirled toward the grave by a cruel and relentless fate…Six million men and women are dying…Six million men and women are dying…Because of this war for Democracy six million Jewish men and women are starving across the seas…Six million men and women of the race that helped do the greatest of the world’s work are falling into the grave!…six million famished men and women now turn mute eyes of appeal…”
1919 — Chester Times (PA), November 28th, 1919, page 15
“There are 6,000,000 Jews in Eastern Europe whom the war has left dependent upon us for aid.”
1919 — Ironwood News Record (MI), December 6th, 1919, page 9
“For First Time in History of Race, Jews Are Asking Others For Help….They are doing it because six million Jews in eastern and central Europe are actually in need of food at this moment….The problem of 6,000,000starving men, women and little children ought to be the problem of all humanity.”
1919 — Lima News (OH), December 24th, 1919, page 3
“Today Six Million Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known In the History of the Race.”
1919 — The Toledo News-Bee, December 27th, 1919
“Six Million Human Beings Are Suffering the Tortures of Disease, Hunger and Death…American Jewish Relief Committee”
1920 — Van Wert Daily Bulletin (OH), January 5, 1920, page 3
“… Jewish relief work in Europe and Asia. There are six million Jews in the two continents who because of the war have been made destitute.”
1920 — Manti Messenger (Utah), March 19, 1920
“Just now some six million of Jews, eight hundred thousand of them just children, are in imminent danger of starvation in eastern Europe.”
1920 — Tulsa Daily World, April 11th, 1920, section B, page 14
“Today 6,000,000 Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known in the Long History of the Race”
1920 — Utica Herald-Dispatch, April 20th, 1920, page 9
“Today 6,000,000 Jews Are Facing the Darkest Days Ever Known in the Long History of the Race.”
1920 — New York Times, May 1st, 1920, page 8
“Just Another Drive, but the Lives of 6,000,000 Human Beings Wait Upon the Answer.”
1920 — New York Times, May 2nd, 1920, page 1
“…six million human beings, without food, shelter, clothing or medical treatment.”
1920 — New York Times, May 3rd, 1920, page 11
“Your help is needed to save the lives of six million people in Eastern and Central Europe.”
1920 — New York Times, May 5th, 1920, page 9
“…to save six million men and women in Eastern Europe from extermination by hunger and disease.”
1920 — New York Times, May 5th, 1920, page 19
“Six million starving, fever-stricken sufferers in war-torn Europe appeal to us.”
1920 — New York Times, May 7th, 1920
“…Jewish war sufferers in Central and Eastern Europe where six millions face horrifying conditions of famine, disease and death.
1920 — Ogden Standard Examiner, August 8, 1920, page 9
“PUSH DRIVE FOR JEWISH RELIEF…Mr. Bond declared today that there aresix million jews (sic) in eastern and central Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America.”
1920 — The Ogden Standard-Examiner, August 20th, 1920
“…there are six million Jews in eastern and central Europe whom the war has left dependent upon America.”
1920 — New York Tribune, August 29th, 1920
“Six million Jews were made homeless by five years of foreign and domestic wars.”
1921 — New York Times, July 20, 1921, page 2
“BEGS AMERICA SAVE 6,000,000 IN RUSSIA. Russia’s 6,000,000 Jews are facing extermination by massacre.”
1922 — Lowell Sun (MA), March 22nd, 1922, page 14
“The Jews in the immediate district for which the aid of the war sufferers’ campaign is to be given numbered over six million….Over 300,000 orphans, over 150,000 descrated women, over six million wandering Jews walking, crawling in their misery, feeding on the bark of trees and on herbs that drow by the wayside.”
1926 — Encyclopedia Britannica, 13th Edition, Vol. 1, 1926, page 145
“While there remain in Russia and Rumania over six millions of Jews who are being systematically degraded…”
1926 — Canadian Jewish Review, April 9th, 1926, page 4
“…the extreme need of 6,000,000 Jews in Russia and Poland,”
1926 — New York Times, April 21st, 1926
“In Heaven’s Name, Arouse the Jews of America! New York’s Quota: $6,000,000 United Jewish Campaign of New York”
1931 — The Montreal Gazette, December 28th, 1931, page 25
“SIX MILLION JEWS FACE STARVATION….FEARS CRISIS AT HAND….six million Jews in Eastern Europe face starvation, and even worse, during the coming winter.”
1932 — Symphony of Six Million, film, April 29th, 1932
Directed by Gregory La Cava, written by Fannie Hurst (story), J. Walter Ruben, Bernard Schubert (screenplay), starring Ricardo Cortez.
1933 — New York Times, March 29, 1933
“It is now active in relief and reconstructive work in Eastern Europe where 6,000,000 Jews are involved.”
1933 — New York Times, June 1st, 1933, page 6
“Dr. Margoshes said he had received a letter from the poet at Zurich a few days ago, stating that she had ‘run away from the holocaust…’”
1933 — The Jewish Western Bulletin, September 21st, 1933
“At this period of human persecution and of human destruction, when life, especially Jewish life has ceased to be of any value in the cruel land of bloody Germany, when the lives of hundreds of thousands are tortured and hang in the balance — during this holocaust…”
1935 — New York Times, September 8th, 1935, page 26
“The preliminary session of the first world conference of the Federation of Polish Jews being attended by sixty delegates from eighteen countries representing 6,000,000 Jews…”
1936 — Chaim Weizmann: Reden und Aufsatze 1901–1936. jud. Bucherverlag Erwin Lowe, Berlin 1937, page 272–4
“It is no exaggeration to say that six million Jews are sentenced to be imprisoned in this part of the world, where they are unwanted, and for whom the countries are divided into those, where they are unwanted, and those, where they are not admitted….It is ultimately the fate of six million people!”
1936 — New York Times, May 31st, 1936, page 14
“AMERICANS APPEAL FOR JEWISH REFUGE. The petition, in expressing the opinion of enlightened Christian leadership in the United States, favoring a larger Jewish immigration into Palestine, stressed the intolerable sufferings of the millions of Jews in “the European holocaust.”…to save these unfortunate millions from total annihilation…”
1936 — The Jewish Western Bulletin, June 2nd, 1936, page 3
“Great Britain has it within her power to throw open the gates of Palestine and let in the victimized and persecuted Jews escaping from the European holocaust.”
1936 — The Montreal Gazette, August 8th, 1936, page 5
“Delegates of 32 Nations Represent six million Hebrews.”
1936 — Chaim Weizmann, The (London) Times, November 26th, 1936
“While in Western Europe many individual Jews had happy homes, in Eastern Europe there were 6,000,000 unwanted unfortunates who were condemned to be penned up in places where they could not live….the presence of these 6,000,000 people without a future whose condition was a threat to Europe.”
1936 — Chaim Weizmann, The Jewish Western Bulletin, December 11th, 1936, page 3
“…where six million Jews are in a position which is neither life nor death.”
1936 — New York Post, December 11th, 1936, page 19
“JEWISH RELIEF BOARD TO HEAR LEHMAN SUNDAY Gathering to consider the crisis confronting 6,000,000 Jews in Central and Eastern Europe,”
1937 — Fitchburg Sentinel, February 17th, 1937, page 1 & 11
“Stating that “6,000,000 Jews in central Europe have neither life nor death because of extreme persecution,” Mrs Emanuel Halpern of New York city, member of the national board of Hadassah urged…Today there are 6,000,000 million (sic) Jews in central Europe who have neither life nor death.”
1937 — Jewish Western Bulletin, December 31st, 1937
“The number six million is often used to describe the Jewish population of Central and Eastern Europe.”
1938 — New York Times, January 9th, 1938, page 12
“PERSECUTED JEWS SEEN ON INCREASE. 6,000,000 VICTIMS NOTED….Five tosix million in all are today the victims of governmental anti-Semitism…”
1938 — New York Times, February 23rd, 1938, page 23
“A depressing picture of 6,000,000 Jews in Central Europe deprived of protection or economic opportunities, slowly dying of starvation, all hope gone…Now anti-Semitism has spread to thirteen European nations, and threatens the very existence of millions of Jews.”
1938 — The Jewish Criterion (Pittsburgh), April 1st, 1938, page 15
“I shall not comment upon the first except to remind you that six million Jews in Europe are struggling between life and death.”
1938 — The Guardian, April 4th, 1938, page 11
“Six million Jews at this moment are trapped like rats…”
1938 — New York Times, May 2nd, 1938
“The rising tide of anti-Semitism in Europe today, which has deprived more than 6,000,000 Jews and non-Aryans of a birthright…”
1938 — The Jews of Central Europe by Jacob Lestshinsky, in Jewish Frontier, Vol. 5, № 6, June 1938, page 13
“EVERY NATION is morally compelled to face the bitter truth. This article is written not with the intent of bewailing our plight but in order to arrive at a factual calculation of the status of six million Jews in Central and Eastern Europe and of the prospects that exist in the lands of immigration.”
1938 — Port Arthur News, June 9th, 1938, page 1
“It is estimated that nearly six million Jews have been driven from their homes by ruthless oppressors and stripped not only of their property but their right to work for a living.”
1938 — Rochester Democrat and Chronicle, June 16th, 1938, page 18
“Judge Lewis urged American members of the race to swing moral and financial powers into the channels of evacuating some 6,000,000 Jews to Palestine.”
1938 — Turtle Mountain Star, Rolla, North Dakota, October 6th, 1938
“Five or six million Jews, uprooted by dictatorship and tossed about by economic storms, may have to depend upon the development of the Holy Land, under British mandate, as a solution to their difficulties. But they face the hostility of the Arabs living there, whose economic and religious interests conflict with theirs….protects the settlers from the raiding Arabs….The Arabs Are Coming!…The dreaded Mohammedan raiders have been sighted by a neighbor settler…”
1938 — The Times, November 22nd, 1938
“Mass emigration of Jews to Palestine for two years and the formation of a Jewish national assembly was advocated by Sir John Haslam, M.P., in a message which he sent to a public meeting at the Kingsway Hall last night held by the New Zionist Organization. The message stated that the problem now involved some 6,000,000 Jews.”
1939 — New York Times, January 15th, 1939, page 27
“Rabbi Silver wanted assistance to Jewish emigration safeguarded so that European governments would realize that ‘it is impossible to evacuate6,000,000 Jews.’”
1939 — The Binghampton Press, January 18, 1939, page 8
“IRISH PLEA — Deputy Robert Briscoe, only Jewish member of the Irish Parliament, arrives in New York city to begin a campaign to enlist Americans in a plan for resettling approximately 6,000,000 Jews in Palestine.”
1939 — The Canadian Jewish Chronicle, January 27th, 1939
“Only six million Jews remain at the moment safe. But they will have to carry the burden.”
1939 — Chaim Weizmann, The Palestine Post, February 14th, 1939
“The fate of six million people was in balance…”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, February 17th, 1939, page 20
“The fate of six million people is in the balance….They supported their stand with a declaration that Jews never needed unrestricted immigration to Palestine as much as at present, with 6,000,000 Jewish refugees seeking a haven.”
1939 — The Evening Independent, February 22nd, 1939, page 1
“6,000,000 Helpless….there are six million Jews in Europe today fighting desperately against intolerance and despair. For them the support of the united appeal is crucial.”
1939 — The Jewish Western Bulletin, March 3rd, 1939
“SIX MILLION JEWS OVERSEAS FACING PERSECUTION, DISCRIMINATION AND ECONOMIC RUIN…”
1939 — The Advocate, March 17, 1939. The Advocate: America’s Jewish Journal. Vols. 95–98. 1939, page 47
“If the six million Jews that constitute the European scene were removed from the lands where they now dwell the forces of brutality and ruthlessness would still continue to operate.”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 7th, 1939, page 4
“Not in Hitler’s Hands, In Yours…The Fate Of Six Million European Jews”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 7th, 1939, page 33
“…six million Jewish people who are in dire need today.”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 14th, 1939, page 4
“Recent events in Central Europe have brought to 6,000,000 the total number of Jews in Central and Eastern European countries affected by anti-Semitic activities”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 14th, 1939, page 6
“…whether our 6,000,000 fellow countrymen will live or die…More than a million refugees, starving, tortured, fear-dazed, have been dragged from their homes, separated from their families, expelled from their countries. Five million more, await with horror the moment this misery will strike them…”
1939 — Chester Times (PA), April 20th, 1939, page 6
“Six million Jews are the stepchildren of fate in Europe today.”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 21st, 1939, page 15
“…the distress and suffering of 6,000,000 Jews in Europe….HAVE YOU DONE YOUR DUTY? THE UNITED JEWISH FUND NEEDS YOUR HELP FOR THE HELPLESS 6,000,000 IN EUROPE
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, April 28th, 1939, page 3
“…6,000,000 fellow Jews who are in distress today.”
1939 — The Niagara Falls Gazette, May 1st, 1939, page 15
“ITHACA RABBI SAYS FREE JEWS MUST AID HARASSED BRETHREN Six million Jews Are Refugees, Members of B’nai B’rith Lodges Told. Three-eights of the world’s Jewish population of 16,000,000 persons, or approximately 6,000,000persons, are potential refugees….Rabbis Fischoff declared that the6,000,000 Jews or Christians of Jewish extraction are in real of imminent danger due to the spread of totalitarianism in the world.”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, May 5th, 1939, page 9
“PLIGHT OF 6,000,000…The 6,000,000 European Jews…”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, May 12th, 1939, page 7
“The year of 1939 is the year of the most critical struggle of 6,000,000 European Jews.”
1939 — Western Morning News (Devon, UK), June 8th, 1939, page 6
PLIGHT OF THE UNWANTED…A little more than a month ago Lord Winterton, chairman of the Evian Committee, declared that the potential problem concerned five or six million Jews.”
1939 — Ohio Jewish Chronicle, June 30th, 1939, page 1
“The crisis which Jews of Europe are facing today envelopes far more than six millions souls.”
1939 — Contemporary Jewish Record, Volume 2 July/August 1939 (Published by the American Jewish Committee)
“…the coming ward would be the annihilation of the six million Jews in East and Central Europe.”
1939 — The Jewish Criterion, October 13th, 1939, page 2
“…the coming ward would be the annihilation of the six million Jews in East and Central Europe.”
1939 — Samuel Broncheck, Syracuse Herald-Journal, October 30th, 1939, page 15
“… in Poland alone there are 6,000,000 Jews who are now subject to Hitler’s persecution or Stalin’s “communizing.””
1939 — The Southern Israelite, November 28th, 1939
“…the coming ward would be the annihilation of the six million Jews in East and Central Europe.”
Still retarded.
So….,, are you neo Nazi/KKK, or are you an Islamist?
Three retarded flavors that go great together.
The same story reported in multiple newspapers is a phenomenon enabled by the magic of newspaper wire services!
Hahaha shameless Jew.
You go with that every time I post the articles.
Woman sues Trump Jr, Jd Vance and… Lane Giffin for 6 gazillion dollars.
https://www.outkick.com/culture/alabama-woman-has-sued-lane-kiffin-donald-trump-jr-jd-vance-6-gazillion-dollars
People can’t figure out why.
JD Vance as the Gov. of Florida. Apparently, he lives in Mar-a-Lago... when did Don Jr. and Ivanka Trump start working for the FBI?
Sounds like someone has been reading Salon again.
She was arrested earlier this year on trespassing charges. She's lost Sarc's sympathy.
She should be shot in the face. Them’s the rules.
Yes, R Mac who Pervfectly snorts smack! We KNOW that ye and yours support political violence! Hang Mike Pence!
Hang Mike Pence!
The only guy shouting that was FBI. If the bomb was planted by the feds, and the "gallows" were put up by the feds, and the guy who broke the window turned out to be a fed, and the only guy caught on camera calling for insurrection turned out to be a fed, why do you think that the guy shouting that at the news cameras wasn’t a fed?
Are ye PervFectly SURE shit was the FBI and SNOT the Lizard People, twat were doing that?
Yup.
Says the EVIL death-lusting BITCH who tells "political enemies" to commit suicide, and steals their IDs! ... Or was that the FBI ass well, Pervfectly Power-Mongering Necrophiliac?
I see SQRLSY is shit posting again. Someone needs to take it to the vet to be euthanized.
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They should shoot her retroactively. Sarc would approve of that.
Get woke! In progressive "math" a gazillion is a bonafide number and specifies an amount that feels really, really big.
56% of liberal women aged 18-30 have a diagnosed mental condition.
https://www.afterbabel.com/p/mental-health-liberal-girls
Says more about psychology's own inflation problem than liberal women.
It would, I agree, if it didn't show comparatively low numbers for conservative men, and conservative women. Even though liberal men are elevated compared to that baseline, the young AWFL's are a step beyond.
Why not both?
^
I would add that it was liberal women taking over the field of mental health that coincided with this inflation.
I wonder how much coincided with insurance plans covering more mental health issues.
I worked with a guy who was a consummate grifter in many ways. He once bragged about having scammed a two week vacation out of the company by claiming he was suicidal and getting "treatment" at some mental health resort.
As a couple of examples of how fucked up this idiot was ... just because they so epitomize the grifter class. These were both around 1992++.
He wanted a red RX8 (RX7?) but with an automatic, and finally found one 500 miles away which was $200 cheaper than one nearby. Add in the cost of the airline ticket and 500 miles freeway driving, all savings out the window, and freeway driving is not the point of a sports car, even one with an automatic. Then several months after an oil change, he started hearing noises and worked himself into a panic that the oil change business had done a shoddy job. Instead of simply measuring the oil level or checking its color himself, or even asking some other business to check it, he spent several more months hounding them to get them to check it. Eventually they did and he took their word for it being fine.
He once drove 20 miles to a bicycle trail which ran past his house, then found his bicycle had two rotted tires which held no air, and had to drive back. His whole plan had been to ride down to his house and back, hoping to meet some fine ladies on the way and have an excuse to say "I live right near here" at the appropriate time. Why he couldn't have done that when riding from home, I do not know.
He sounds…interesting.
It sounds like had a legit mental health issue.
The real answer may be something like this:
Going for psychotherapy is much more acceptable among liberals than among conservatives. But if you want insurance to pay for it, the insurance company will want a "diagnosis" from the therapist as to why it is needed. So one is created to satisfy the insurance company's rules.
I took a quick look at the linked article, but didn't read the whole thing. I see that it is largely about free speech issues. And it confirms what I have long thought: that the expansion of the mental-health industry is largely responsible for the decline in support for free speech. If emotional hurt is equated with physical harm (and mental-health professionals often so equate it), then saying things that offend people becomes equated with violence. We need to speak out strongly against this claimed equivalence, and explain how it is truly harmful in itself.
Also, Lane Kiffin? The football coach?
Apparently. This reads like like a less intelligible version of Hihn’s enemies list.
Eric Abbenante
@EricAbbenante
Dictator Kamala Harris discussing government takeover of companies' patents:
"I will snatch their patent, so that we [the American government] will take over.
Yes we can do that!
The question is: 'Do you have the will to do it'!?
I have the will to do it."
Video
https://x.com/EricAbbenante/status/1824612435375878439
"You didn't invent that!"
Jesse Fact Check Time!
So, for those who wish to be actually well informed on this topic, here is a much longer clip of Kamalama talking about patent-snatching.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2VKKp5SaXjM
So in this clip, she wants to set drug prices to "the average price of what's being charged around the globe". That's bad for all sorts of reasons.
And then she says, if the drug company refuses to play by the rules, for those drugs that were developed using federal R&D funds, she would "snatch their patent". Also bad - it would undermine the whole purpose of patents in the first place, giving inventors some legal right to profit off their invention, if the government could then come later on and take that patent away.
But - and here's the important part - she threatens to do so for drugs that were developed using federal dollars. She's not threatening to snatch patents away for random inventions by random people. She might actually have some legal leg to stand on, I don't know that much about patent law.
But it's not "dictatorial". In fact it is the same impulse that a lot of populists around here exhibit, which is that by virtue of being taxpayers, they think they can micromanage what happens with their tax dollars. This happens all the time with the culture war crap in schools. How many times have we seen here the argument that schools should stop/start teaching X in schools, because "that's what the taxpayers want" (in their view)? It's the same idea here. KamKam is saying that the government should take away patents from these drug companies because "that's what the taxpayers want" (in her view).
So, YET AGAIN, we have the right-wing misinformation machine taking a horrible policy position from the other side, and instead of arguing against it based on its merits, exaggerating it and catastrophizing it beyond all recognition and turning it into some cartoon caricature of pure evil.
It was the same with the Disinformation Governance Board - they couldn't simply say "this board is a bad idea because of X Y and Z", they had to say "IT IS MINITRUE COME TO LIFE, THEY ARE GOING TO THROW IN YOU THE GULAG". Here, it is Kamalamadingdoing with a terrible policy position on drugs, and instead of saying "this position is wrong based on X Y and Z", they had to say "SHE IS A TYRANNICAL COMMUNIST DICTATOR WHO IS GOING TO SEIZE YOUR PATENTS". It is all emotion and no logic.
Boaf sydez!
Fun to watch Jeff cosplay as libertarian and pretend to criticize Democrats.
What is unlibertarian about anything that I wrote above? Go ahead, be specific.
There wasn’t anything coherent in what you said.
So she wants the federal government to snatch patents.
R Mac who Pervfectly Snorts Smack wants to snatch MikePence and, supporting political violence, "Hang Mike Pence"!
That's what I read.
I do think that our patent (and copyright) laws have gotten out of control - they need to be limited to a lesser period of years - but afterwards need to be open to the public, not snatched by the government.
Everything she wants, every policy, every plan, seems to be in the direction of placing more power and more control in the hands of the federal government, and less and less in the hands of individuals. But I've been told recently that this isn't 'central planning', so I can see why a radical individualist would support it.
Lying Jeffy’s fact checks of Jesse have become comical.
Yeah. He is so broken and transparent now. It is pretty funny.
Can you push him further? Maybe enough to where he harms himself? In addition to his daily binge eating. I wonder how many cheesecakes that fat fuck has angrily shoved down his throat after getting beaten up here?
Where did I write that I supported KamKam’s plan to “snatch patents”? Go ahead, post where I wrote that.
So you didn't read anything I wrote and just assumed that I agreed with it.
Keep going Lying Jeffy, you’re doing great!
Your whole post is one big implication, which is nowhere near as imaginary as what you tried to accuse me of the other day.
I think patent lengths are alright, but copyrights needs to be reigned in
It's not central planning, because they have no idea what they're doing. There's no plan!
she threatens to do so for drugs that were developed using federal dollars
I think it's reasonable to have some rules about pricing and profits on a product if you accept fed money for research, but this should have been agreed to in advance.
I have my name on at least 5 patents. There was an agreement with each of the companies that I worked for how the rights were distributed.
I agree. This is a big reason why post-hoc "patent snatching" is a bad idea. And since IANAL it would not surprise me terribly if there were some patent laws out there that might give a legal pretext to what Kamalamama is proposing.
And the larger point here, is that Team Red is not interested in this type of discussion at all. They just want to call KamKam a "dictator" and a "communist". Who cares about patent policy or drug prices? Let's just create a reality in which KamKam is no different than Stalin! Which BY THE WAY is the same type of tactics that they (rightly) complain about when Team Blue doesn't want to discuss immigration or tariff policy, they just want to create a reality in which Trump is no different than Hitler.
Discuss patent policy is fine. However, Harris is a Marxist and seeks to be a dictator. Its the way of your party.
He deflected from criticism of her for a reason.
My god, you are boring. Formulaic, predictable and boring.
“This bad thing isn’t as bad as you say”.
- jeff. Every single time. Any topic. Except trump. Then it’s reversed.
I wouldn't mind if the federal R&D money came with a clause making them partners in whatever the fruit of it was, but not a retroactive seizure. It'd be especially bad if they didn't just abrogate the patent, allowing anyone to practice it, but seized the exclusivity for themselves.
So nuanced.
So selectively nuanced.
So... it's true, it's as bad as we say, but she threw in a limiting principle at the end of her tirade.
I feel like I need to read more about this Project 2025 thing that's literally all over the news today. Maybe there's a limiting principle in the fine print somewhere that makes it all worthwhile and fact-checky.
Oh, and BY THE WAY.
There is another candidate who proposed government setting prices of drugs according to some global average. And that candidate is... Trump.
https://www.cms.gov/newsroom/press-releases/trump-administration-announces-prescription-drug-payment-model-put-american-patients-first
Trump Administration Announces Prescription Drug Payment Model to Put American Patients First
So now we see why the right-wing misinformation machine has to exaggerate what Kamalamadingdoing is doing. Because what she is proposing is not all that different from what Trump already did. NO, it's not identical - Trump didn't propose to take anyone's patents away, and Trump's plan only applied to Medicare, not to the entire marketplace - but it is still the same fundamental idea of the government setting prices by fiat for certain drugs.
So Team Trump really CAN'T argue against Kamalama's plan on the merits, because Trump actually agrees with her on a lot of the substance of the plan. The only way Team Trump can try to distinguish himself from Kamalamama is to lie about what she's doing, and to make it seem like it is orders of magnitude worse, that it is "communist".
So when government sets a ceiling on how much it'll reimburse for goods or services, that's setting prices by fiat? Large entities do that a lot rather than paying retail, and I see it as a sensible part of controlling government spending.
More bullshit claims from Pedo Jeffy. You’re so desperate, and it shows.
“Trump didn’t propose to take anyone’s patents away, and Trump’s plan only applied to Medicare, not to the entire marketplace”
That’s the entire fucking point Lying Jeffy. Damn, you’re really going out of your way to deflect your new commie bestie.
Wait, this is limited to Medicare and Medicaid, and it’s a price control-- a limit on reimbursement etc., no one is snatching a patent? Holy shit your fact checks are unintentionally hilarious.
And finally.
There is a candidate running who thinks that the government shouldn't be involved in the health care business at all.
But, you all aren't going to vote for him, because he's gay and waves a Pride flag. That's icky.
Look at Lying Jeffy lie.
Gonna keep letting him dig his hole lol.
Sad.
Oh, and what does RFK Jr., ML's heart-throb, think about prescription drug prices?
https://www.kennedy24.com/economy
Cut drug costs by half to bring them in line with other nations.
Hmm, doesn't sound very libertarian to me. Actually, most of that whole page doesn't sound libertarian at all.
Chase and RFK are really not factors in this election. Might as well not bother speaking of them, they have no realistic chance at winning this thing anymore than you do.
RFK is less libertarian than Trump, but he's still one million times better than the authoritarian slut puppet your demented Nazi party masters are currently installing, and on the most important issue of dismantling the fascist state he will do a better job than Trump.
Neither Trump or RFK are libertarian, but they're still light years more libertarian than your retarded Brahmin or 'Chase'.
Why don't you tell us how you think RFK Jr. is more libertarian than Chase. I would like to see that one.
What did Kennedy say at the time about the Covid lockdowns and mandatory masks and vaxing, and how about double masking Chase?
I rest my case.
See how desperate and shrill Jeffy has become? It will only get worse as his retarded Marxist queen’s campaign rapidly implodes.
So be sure to ramp up the pressure. Maybe the morbidly obese pedophile’s heart will explode.
Chase never supported government lockdowns, government mandates, or the insane government spending.
But that isn’t what you asked, is it? You wanted to know what Chase and RFK Jr. *said* during the lockdowns? Not what their policies are? So all you are interested in, are what their words were at that time, regardless of any policies on that issue, and regardless of any policy on any other issue? That one thing?
You think that because RFK Jr. said meaner words about lockdowns than Chase (even if true), that makes him more of a libertarian, even if they both supported exactly the same policies?
So it is exactly as I have complained about. You don't actually want someone to tear down the welfare state or cut spending or lower taxes or reduce regulations. You just want someone who says mean words that makes you feel good. It is ENTIRELY style over substance.
You are arguing about two people who will have zero chance in winning this election. Might as well talk more about Pat Paulson.
What Kennedy and Chase did and said during the most authoritarian episode in peacetime American history ever, is far more important than what they'll say to try and get votes from libertarians on the campaign trail, you fucking fraud.
The chips were down and Kennedy passed and Chase caved.
This is completely absurd.
So, you will support (from RFK's website):
- $15 minimum wage
- "free" child care
- government-backed 3% mortgages for homeowners
- government restrictions of energy exports
- government setting student loan interest to 0% (akin to what Biden is doing)
- government establishing "addiction healing centers on organic farms" (what kind of new-age hippie nuttery is this)
- government prosecuting "union-busting corporations" (again akin to what Biden is doing)
and much, much more
over Chase, who supports none of that
even though both Chase and RFK both opposed government vaccine mandates and government mask mandates
even though both Chase and RFK both said *in 2020* that they opposed the government vaccine mandates and government mask mandates
but since RFK was meaner and nuttier about it, you will support him, along with all of his left-wing baggage, along with policies that are almost copies of what Biden is doing, over Chase
and it's because Chase is "too leftist"? WTF?
No, it is because you are not a serious person, you want to be entertained with mean words about your opponents.
You're a shallow moron
Gotta protect your precious democrats, right Fatfuck?
GTFO and don’t come back.
A patent is a monopoly enforced at the point of a gun.
You hate ownership of private property, just like the Marxist you are.
Plus, he has never had an original idea in his life.
New video shows what appears to be DC Metro planting the inert plant bomb outside DNC headquarters on J6. Could explain why FBI and J6 Committee didn't seem to care about it.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/new-video-appears-show-dc-police-units-planting-j6-pipe-bomb
Zero surprises there. We already knew something was up when they said there was video but wouldn't release it or name the suspect.
Just like the "gallows" on the lawn, it was all just an FBI/Speaker's Office op. Wray and Pelosi should be sitting in handcuffs right now on incitement charges.
But "Insurrection!!!"
New video shows what appears to be DC Metro planting the inert plant bomb outside DNC headquarters on J6.
I just watched that video and others in linked posts. I only "appears" to be what this says if you use your imagination. It is evidence of nothing.
Thanks Act Blue!
I'm sure you'll provide all the evidence of the real bomber we have been waiting for for 4 years.
Hey, either believe the official narrative (as "reported" in state media) or accept your deplorable patch and STFU.
This dumbass also is glad the capitol police shoot trespassers in the head. FOAD.
Another Jesse fact check time!
This video shows nothing of substance. It shows some guy getting out of a police vehicle, who supposedly "pulls up his right coat collar to obscure his face from the camera located across the street" (actually, maybe he pulled up his coat collar because it was a cold day in January???), and then he... walks out of the field of view. What does he do outside of the field of view? Who knows! The article says he is carrying a bag, but I could not see a bag in the video. Then, a few minutes later, a guy (could be the same guy, we can't really tell) then enters in the police vehicle and the vehicle drives off. This is extremely weak evidence of anything sinister going on. It is typical ZeroHedge conspiracy mongering clickbait.
They should have shot him for trespassing on public property.
"Another Jesse fact check time!"
Whenever Jeff says 'fact check' you know he's about to pettifog, prevaricate and lie.
You have to remember. Jeff demanded we all use fact checkers from CNN, msnbc, wiki, etc. He demands only corporate narratives. Even when shown how false those fact checks are.
I demand truth and facts and data and logic and reason. You push narratives and socially-constructed reality from your right-wing media bubble.
Like the bears in trunks logic. Lol.
You care about truth and facts and data and logic and reason, like a pedophile cares about children.
Only useful to abuse and rape for your own purposes and those of The Party.
Let's see if this is true Jeff. Immigrants use welfare and government at higher rates than citizens. Discuss without ad hominem.
An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives.
https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Legal-and-Illegal-Immigrant-Households
Also. Remember when you tried to prove illegal immigrants committed crimes by using crimes from illegal / population of American instead of dividing by the population size of illegal immigrants? Lol.
Let's take your source and take a look at that topline number:
An estimated 49 percent of households headed by legal immigrants used one or more welfare programs in 2012, compared to 30 percent of households headed by natives.
Oh, that sounds scary and terrible and awful. Those immigrant moochers! But if you actually dig into the data, you will see that these percentages are misleading.
From Table 1 of your source:
Number of native-born households: 104.60 million
Percentage using welfare: 30.2%
Number of native-born households using welfare: 104.60 million x 0.302 = 31,589,200 households
Number of legal immigrant households: 12.77 million
Percentage using welfare: 48.5%
Number of legal immigrant households using welfare: 12.77 million x 0.485 = 6,193,435
So, which group is using more welfare? The native-born households or the legal immigrant households? It is the native-born households, by over a factor of 5.
Plus, if you dig into the data a little bit deeper, you will see that in their data source, there is a category for "native-born", and there is ALSO a category for "citizen". The "citizen" category is larger than the "native-born" category because it includes naturalized citizens. But CIS chooses to use the "native-born" category, meaning, that it is cherry-picking somewhat the data it is using to make its comparison.
Plus, if you look even deeper into the data, you see that a huge chunk of the welfare that is being used is by school lunch programs. It is not fair to hold this against the immigrant household, because: (1) kids are *required by law* to go to school, so this is an unavoidable expense; and (2) many of the kids that are receiving this 'welfare' are actually CITIZENS themselves, but because their data source uses *households* instead of individuals as their primary unit of measurement, the kids who are CITIZENS using school lunches are counted against the immigrant HOUSEHOLD as "using welfare".
And even with all of this data cherry-picking and misleading comparisons, when you get right down to it, if you go to Figure 8 of this study (published one day after the one that you posted, from the same source):
https://cis.org/Report/Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households
you will see that the percentage of households in poverty using welfare for both native-born and immigrants, are roughly the same.
So even your data sources, show that immigrants get welfare for the same reason that the native-born get welfare: because they're poor. Not because they are 'socialists' or somesuch.
So, Jesse, here is some data for you to consider.
https://www.cato.org/briefing-paper/immigrant-native-consumption-means-tested-welfare-entitlement-benefits-2019
Oh, so Cato comes to a different conclusion than CIS. Why is that? It is entirely about the methodology that they use to generate the statistics.
So their approach isn't perfect either, but it reduces the effect of counting all welfare that any household member uses, even if they are citizens, as counting against the entire household as if everyone was an immigrant.
Oh, also Cato includes Social Security and Medicare as welfare, but CIS does not. Well, guess what, they are welfare. Huh. I wonder why CIS didn't include them.
So, Jesse, what is your response to this data, that disputes the conclusions drawn from your source? And before you say "but it's Cato and they support open borders!", well gee, I could have said "but CIS supports restrictive immigration!" but I didn't. I criticized the methods that they used, not their agenda. So why don't you tell me why I should believe CIS's analysis over Cato's analysis without referring to agendas or attacking the source.
You don't have to be even a permanent resident to get Social Security or Medicare. If even an illegal immigrant pays into the system long enough he or she gets benefits. And if you want to csll them welfare, enjoy losing the next election.
Now you know why only libertarians are brave enough to call Social Security out for what it really is.
Here is another data source for you to consider.
https://www.nber.org/system/files/working_papers/w27811/w27811.pdf
Well, look at that. When you try to compare native-born citizens with immigrants, in an apples-to-apples manner, using these means-tested welfare programs, native-born citizens actually consume more welfare. Huh. Maybe it's Americans who are the socialists.
No one read any of that shit.
Including Jeff. It's his lazy way of doing Gish Gallop.
I did. Each source refutes the CIS report.
Oh look, another new name that’s never posted here before suddenly shows up just to validate Jeff’s narrative.
Don’t samefag your own posts, Jeffy.
You’re pathetic Lying Jeffy.
lol, TZM is not my sock
instead of coming up with lame insults, perhaps you might try to criticize or refute anything above that I wrote? Hmm? oh wait, you're a fraud, you can't
Huh. What a surprise. Jesse was too much of a chickenshit coward to come back and even attempt to refute or criticize any of this. No one else either offered any criticism of substance, with the sole exception of Charlie Hall (not one of the pro-Trump mean girls).
You don't want facts or truth or arguments or claims, you want narratives and your little bubble reality. You're pathetic little morons who are happily manipulated by your own social media feed that you create yourself.
You are the embodiment of the people in Brave New World - people who wouldn't need to be controlled by brute force, because they would distract themselves with inanities which renders any sort of external control superfluous. You are hopeless morons and you are the reason why this election season feels more like a middle school slapfight than a discussion of serious issues.
You demand democrat propaganda and attempt to shout down anything contrary to democrat narratives. You are a liar and a sophist. As has been proven here hundreds of times.
If you had the slightest bit of integrity or self respect you would have committed suicide years ago.
Fact checking doesn't seem to matter here. We point out that the video shows someone get out of a police car near where the pipe bomb was found. Everything else claimed by Jesse is the imagination of the conspiracy minded. Do they point to anything we missed? No. Do they bring up any other supporting facts? No. They attack us or demand that we solve the crime 3 1/2 years later in order to counter that conspiracy theory.
I submit this is outdated by a decade or two.
The modern inheritor is people who don't remember special pronouns, who think genital mutilation is for adults only, and think that the proper way to end racism is to stop making race part of the legal system.
And this ...
... this idea of stuffing so much "protection" into the first amendment is more a recognition by courts that ignoring the principles of liberty has gone too far, but the proper fix, of unwinding all the court-ordered violations (Slaughterhouse, Plessey, 9th and 10th, New Deal) would lose too much face and has gone on too long to be practically unwound, so they found a convenient escape valve. Witness calling stripping expressive, when the real answer is MYOB.
Precedent sucks. Common law itself is the bottom-up free market of the legal arena compared to top-down legislation, as I learned late in life from Bruno Leoni's Freedom and the Law, but trying to keep all those independent judges on the same page in their sentences created precedent, and it's been downhill ever since.
The only proper way to handle all of this is victim prosecution for actual damages shown to be a result of violating core freedom from first principles. The minute you throw in common law, precedent, and legislation, you've ruined any chance of real justice, because government is nothing but a pile of third parties who don't give a rat's ass about anybody involved except themselves.
Cops, forensic labs, prosecutors, judges, and government-supplied defense lawyers are all third parties with the same employer, and know damned well they better cover each others' back if they want their own back covered later. Qualified Immunity is a perfect example. Victim prosecution would make short work of corrupt cops, but their colleagues can't allow that kind of interference, and even judges eventually realized they needed some fig leaf to cover up the embarrassment, so they invented QI strictly to extend their own Absolute Immunity (itself blatantly self-serving) to their colleagues.
Why do you care about the culture war? How is that relavent compared to anarchists (all of whom were Marxist) from 100 years ago
I remember the first time I heard of left anarchists in relation to the Spanish civil war — an “anarchists union” which seemed like such an oxymoron. Then I learned that left anarchists deny the very concept of owned property, and found that they vary all over the lot, from the squishies that allow house ownership to the purists who deny ownership of clothes and even toothbrushes.
I have a lot more respect for the purists, but who wants to share toothbrushes and underwear? Thus the squishies start down the slippery slope to ownership of dishes, of refrigerators, of tables and chairs, and pretty soon you’ve got private houses of all things!
What a bizarre concept this “property” is. How much simpler life is for the purists.
Of course, life is even simpler if you’re pure from the other side and recognize absolute property rights. But that allows inequality of outcome, the last thing any collectivist ever wants.
And dedicated purists also want to share pussies and penises, because exclusive human relationships also defy the anarchist ideal. Plus children belong to nobody and everybody.
Anarchy doesn’t mean no rules. It means no archon, as in no ruler or central authority to enforce rules with violence.
So must arguments against anarchy are straw men.
"Anarchy" as a word is a part of language. Languages evolve. Words have many meanings. Your definition is prescriptive for yourself only.
The origin of the word is an archon with archon meaning ruler and an meaning no.
Personal attacks don’t change that fact, Jesse jr.
Well said, for you.
ETA: I knew it! It was blank when I replied. Good job, worrying about personal attacks by making two personal attacks at once, and now twice.
You refuted the origin of the word anarchy by claiming it was my personal definition.
All you’ve got is personal attacks. Sad. For a little while I thought you were an adult. But you’re just another Jesse. Oh well. You can join my hate club. They will be excited to have another member.
Amazing how much you invoke me when your ignorance is exposed.
I rebutted your argument; refutation is in the mind of the reader. Thank you for accepting my rebuttal as being correct.
"Refuted"? Don't summon The Misek again . . . dear lord.
Goddamn you’re a whiney little drunken cunt.
I really can't think of anything stupider than trying to claim that there is a definition of anarchy that anarchists agree to.
And who enforces your rules sarc? Who has the police power in a anarchistic society? The mob?
I believe my system, "Chartertopia", could do it, but then it's not a true anarchy, left or right. See the nutshell description if you're interested. Of course it's a pipe dream, but so was the Constitution at one point, and now it is again, it's been so corrupted. It may still be the best governing constitution remaining, but it's not as good as it used to be.
Thr problem with any form of peaceful anarchist ideals is the fact of human nature. Given a disagreement on laws or enforcement mechanism, anarchism will descend into a system similar to feudalism with people binding together and competing as social groups.
Reductio swats them down--as did all experiments. The noose and electric chair make the unequal yet apposite conclusion stick.
The denial of property rights is the reason that there is no such thing as a "left libertarian". No liberty is possible without private property.
It is easier for a camel to pass through the eye of a needle than for an anti property leftist to defend liberty.
Yes. I doubt anyone who admits to leftist ideals to any degree would tolerate actual anarchy, where the strong freely dominate the weak and take their stuff. Instead, I suspect many would prefer some form of communal ownership--and communal enforcement.
When I was first floundering with liberty and trying to figure out first principles, "self-ownership" was just a good phrase and meant nothing special. Long after I had come up with my own ideas, I learned about property being either the basis of self-ownership, or among the first derivations from it, depending on what I read. Now it seems obvious and inevitable, but the pains it took me to figure it out make me a bit more sympathetic to people who don't see the connection.
Property really is fundamental. You cannot have freedom without property, unless you go hard core left purist and have no property, and that leads to no progress and endless gang warfare, aka government by dictatorship of the self-proclaimed elites, who do indeed end up owning everything, including the people.
I think the problem is that property is such an obvious natural fact of life on the personal level that people don't recognize it until it rises to the level of businesses and inequality, and then they throw out all property they don't like without realizing they are discarding their own property rights too.
"You cannot have freedom without property"
Freedom's just another word for nothing left to lose.
Is that from your favorite philosopher, who was also incredibly fat?
From Kris Kristoferson, a slim and sexy song writer. Me and Bobby McGee. Bobby is a gender neutral hitchhiking partner to 'me' and the song is sung by men and women performers - most notably Janis Joplin and dozens of others.
Liberty is possible without property. Even Lysander Spooner recognized that, but just thought it impractical. Which it is.
Private property is the single largest infringer of liberty in the free world.
Anarchists were the opposite extreme from Marxists.
Like roundworms within rats maybe? Both are the same thing, violent looters. Anarch means dumber and more parasitical. Even rats can see that.
I actually oppose both.
When cops write reports or speak in court it’s called testilying. The cops know they are lying, the prosecutor knows they are lying, the judge knows they are lying, the defense knows they are lying, the only one surprised is the naive citizen who until then trusted the system.
Then some people who hate cops love using them as a form of revenge.
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I had a sheriff serve the papers, just to be a dick. I divorced her. Revealing that you think she divorced me. Having troubles at home?
I hired deputies once to serve someone for small claims court. There were four choices: registered mail, ask a friend (a sorry thing to do to friends), hire a private process server, hire deputies. Deputies were cheaper than private servers (thank you, taxpayers).
This was in the innocent days when you could pay the DMV $1 to get a driver’s address. When I tried registered mail first, the post office said the address was non-existent! I was hoping that would come up in the small claims court, but it never did.
So I had to use her work address, and they sent two deputies. That felt pretty good.
He posted that I had a deputy serve divorce papers as an argument against the concept of testilying?
That’s why I keep the cunt on mute.
So much for muting, if you know what he wrote. Either you lie about the muting, or you use a separate account or sign out temporarily to see what he wrote, in which case the muting is a sham.
Or I know that he has a trove of bookmarks and based upon your response inferred what bookmark he used.
That was from 4 days ago dummy.
You don't mute lol.
It’s a sham. We broke sarc years ago and he’s never recovered.
I was clear in my post. You hate all cops. Except the one who murders conservatives and the ones you use against people you dislike.
Go away muted attack gnat. I’m trying to converse with the adults.
Maybe the adult (I have singular pronouns, thank you for misgendering me) doesn’t want the child in the conversation.
I’m sorry I forgot you’re trying to be Jesse and attack people instead of argue ideas.
My sincerest apologies.
Argue ideas? You? Your answer right there attempts to insult two people at once. So much for arguing ideas.
In response to an attack you ninny. My original response was about ideas. Then you did a Jesse.
In response to an unread supposed personal attack. Do you shoot blindly through doors when someone knocks? That's not self-defense.
I knew what he said from your reply, and you confirmed it.
Fuck off. I’ve got better things to do than argue with assholes who make everything personal.
Enjoy your catty sewing circle. I’m out of here.
80% of your posts this morning can be considered personal.
Poor sarc, always with the cut and run.
WE WANT THE LIST! WE WANT THE LIST!
All the idiots Sarc just dissed are grey idiot-boxes on my screen. Arguing with mystics is a waste of everything.
LIB, I'm not arguing with them. They're grey boxes too! 🙂
Sarc actually did defend the Capitol officer in a blind shoot when he killed rabbit lol.
Go away muted attack gnat. I’m trying to converse with the adults.
POST THE LIST, TROLL!!!
Well stated. So you are the other person who read "Freedom and the Law".
To "Slaughterhouse", I would add"Carolene Products", "Wickard v Filburn" and "Lee Optical" which, despite precedent, eliminated almost any defense against violations of rights not enumerated in the Constitution. Without these, "Dobbs" would not have been possible.
Some day, conservatives will learn that when the 14th Amendment's "Due process of Law" clause was denied as a defense of abortion (because it is not named in the Constitution) that the other unenumerated rights included the right to educate your child, the right to prevent the state from seizing your child and the right to prevent mutilation of your child.
No matter what Alito said, when the basis of the defense of rights is denied, no right is safe.
Perhaps the "Privileges or Immunities" clause will be revived but don't hold your breath thinking that the present Supreme Court will overturn "Slaughterhouse", "Bradwell" or "Cruikshank".
Yes! I remember being astonished at his comparison of common law to free markets, it seemed so damned obvious, but I had always taken precedents as part of it, and not really thought it through how they were added.
Lee optical looks interesting too, but the others I lumped together under FDR because so many bad cases came out of that.
Whenever I hear people argue about principles embedded in the Constitution, it makes me laugh. It was a damned good first attempt, far ahead of anything at the time, but had some major flaws. The best fix I could think of would be some kind of people's juries, where anyone could challenge law, and 12 random adults would judge it. If they disagreed on what it did, or agreed it was unconstitutional, out it would go, and there could be no appeal, no judges involved at all. Proponents and opponents would answer questions, the 12 random adults would be in separate rooms and write down what they thought, and the results compared.
Whether that would be sufficient, I do not know.
Just read the Wikipedia article on Lee Optical. Here's Douglas at his awful best, making excuses for the State:
But what else could anyone expect when the government defines its own limits?
According to Lee Optical, a law is presumed to be constitutional if there is any “conceivable” reason for its enactment whether or not that reason was in the minds of the legislators!
That decision was about as bad as any that the SCOTUS ever made. It has a far greater breadth than “Plessey” or even “Dred Scott”! Those decisions brutally affected one sixth of the population. No one is safe from “Lee Optical”.
I’m not saying that it was worse than chattel slavery, but the surveillance state, government censorship by coercion of social media, and continual bureaucratic attacks on the gig economy can reduce the entire US population to a status equivalent to that of former slaves in the post-Civil War south. There was a deliberate attempt to force former slaves back to the plantation by denying them the right to own property, to engage in a lawful profession and even to bargain with whites to work for wages. Sound familiar?
The parallels of the modern state with the south of the 1870’s through to the 20th Century are both ominous and ignored.
Slaugherhouse was a prop on which Cruickshank leaned to enslave women and hand freedmen over to the Klan while treasonously overthrowing Tilden's election. The Dem platform denounced that election as stolen. God's Own Prohibitionists ought to add something similar to their platform if they want to pretend to believe it.
I have read excerpts from Bruno Leona’s book but I think I need to read the entire book. Thanks for reminding me.
“it became more difficult to imagine anyone could go to jail in America solely for political heresy.”
Well now!
Democrats: "Hold my Bud Light"
What are you implying?
You know, all those political arrests you constantly defend buddy.
Hey look, sarc’s playing dumb again.
That people go to jail in America on trumped up charges for political heresy, Sarckles. That's what I'm implying.
lol
Like what?
People got charged based upon what they did, not what they said.
Hmph.
Canadian.
After all the examples you've seen in the last four years from Jacob Chansley to Julian Assange, you're still going to play retarded?
That's not people being charged for speech, no matter how you spin it. You can't even get my hate club to go along with this one. You're wrong. Stupid. Retarded. And, well, Canadian.
ML is an idiot with good grammar. His good grammar partially disguises his complete lack of intelligence. Another word for that is "charlatan".
Trump has promised to do.just that.
Really? All anarchists are champions of civil rights and basic liberties? Are you sure?
A post by Brian Doherty, no less, explicitly praising Oliver Wendell Holmes and implicitly praising FDR. Interesting!
Mussolini made the trains run on time, so the legends go. Hitler liked dogs and was a vegetarian. I've seen pictures of Stalin smiling, so he must have had some inner good qualities, or at least a sense of humor. Mao, I don't know. Were Mao jackets a sartorial success? Stopped clocks are right twice a day. So I'm willing to believe OWH and FDR had occasional good points, no matter how temporary.
With Holmes I think it was more a case of "I don't think I can get away with this one" than a serious questioning of half a century of arguing against individual rights. He believed, like Bork, in an almost unlimited majoritarianism.
I used to think Bork's rejection was typical Progressive slander, until I found he said this:
Then I wondered why Reagan nominated him and the Democrats rejected him. He seemed a perfect statist with no use for a Constitution. But then, Governor Reagan had no use for gun rights and President Reagan tripled the national debt. so the only real lesson is that statists are evil.
Reagan saw the increase in defense spending as a necessary expense to end the advance of communism that would end with the collapse of the "evil empire". The effectiveness of that build up in speeding up the collapse is controversial. But it was Bush who transformed the "peace dividend" into social welfare projects which resulted in his administration having the slowest economic growth (average 1.9% real GDP per year) of any president in the preceding 50 years. The much maligned Jimmy Carter had a growth of 2.5%. By comparison, Reagan was 3.5%, Clinton was 3.6% and "W" Bush was the worst by far, 1.7%.
The national debt problem was solved by Clinton/Gingrich ending with a balanced budget. "W" began the resumption of deficits succeeding in doubling the national debt and grinding the economy to a halt, followed by Obama who redoubled it and then by Trump/Biden who nearly redoubled it again.
With Social Security facing bankruptcy in 10 years, Medicare becoming insolvent in less time, military procurement being the least efficient process the government has ever faced and the general giveaways promised by Harris and Trump, I think the best investment may be shotguns and canned food ("Gremlins 2")
Because Bork was good on antitrust, opposed the judicial activism that was at that time mostly a tool of the "left", and was perceived as a friend to whomever was president.
Doherty is among the libertarians specifically pushing back against Christo-Fascism/Project 2025.
Seems silly to push back against Heritage Foundation nonsense unless Trump actually adopts it.
So much for arguing ideas instead of people.
Seems silly to push back against Heritage Foundation nonsense unless Trump actually adopts it.
Trump doesn't adopt anything with even a small fraction of the specificity of Project 2025. He just picks the "best people" to carry out details. Like the dozens of former Trump officials and likely appointees in another Trump administration that were involved in crafting Project 2025.
Project 2025 is QAnon for insane ActBlue devotees. The Heritage Foundation has as big a role in Republican politics as the Lincoln Project has with Democrats.
Here’s Trump’s real sinister Project 25:
1. Bring back 5 for $5 at Arby’s and $5 Subway footlongs
2. Cigarette vending machines are back, so is the Marlboro Points Catalogue
3. Dine in Pizza Huts with red cups
4. CD Players and AM Radio back in cars
6. Subsidized UFC, federal bailout for Red Lobster
7. McDonalds French fries will be fried in beef tallow again, McRib served year round
8. 1975 Trans Am for every American
9. Seatbelts and child seats back to being optional. Parents don’t have to stop so mom can nurse on long trips
10. Free American flag with every case of beer + Pull tab beer cans
11. Boys will wear pants unless they can prove they’re Scottish. DNA test required
12. The Confederate battle flag goes back on the roof of the General Lee
13. No fishing limit or size restrictions in Minnesota
14. “Hold my beer and watch this” will be a valid legal defense
15. Pool slides mandatory for every pool larger than 200 gallons
16. Skiing with a rope tied to the cars bumper in winter legal again
17. Bringing back lawn darts
18. Cocaine in Coca Cola
19. Rodeo week and Sturgis are national holidays
20. Keystone Pipeline XL will end at new crude shipping terminal to be built at Martha’s Vineyard
21. Theft insurance not permitted for businesses that don’t house a revolver under the till
22. Ashtrays back in restaurants, smoking and real food back on planes
24. A Harvard degree excludes you from government employment forever
25. No fat chicks in the SI Swimsuit Edition
MOTHERFUCKER! I finally decided to go to there Heritage Foundations site to see what these idiots were freaking out about.
This is the rAdiCaL agenda that Shrike and "JasonT20" are freaking out about:
https://www.project2025.org/truth/
Secure the Border
Project 2025’s policy reforms would end America’s decades-long border crisis by:
Thoroughly enforcing existing immigration laws.
Aggressively constructing a wall on our southern border.
Efficiently identifying and rejecting fraudulent asylum claims.
Restoring the “remain in Mexico” policy for people awaiting asylum claims.
Arresting, detaining, and removing of immigration violators anywhere in the United States.
Unleash American Energy
Project 2025’s policy reforms would secure abundant access to energy for the American people, including low-cost gasoline, by:
Ensuring access to abundant, reliable, and affordable energy.
Removing efforts to push sustainable-development schemes connected to food production.
Stopping collaboration with and funding of progressive foundations, corporations, international institutions, and NGOs that advocate for climate fanaticism.
Ending the Biden administration’s war on fossil fuels in the developing world and supporting the responsible management of oil and gas reserves as the quickest way to end wrenching poverty and the need for open-ended foreign aid.
Ensuring that the Nuclear Regulatory Commission facilitates rather than hampers private-sector nuclear energy innovation and deployment.
De-Weaponize the Federal Government and Dismantle the Deep State
Project 2025’s policy reforms would restore self-governance to the American people by:
Firing supposedly “un-fireable” federal bureaucrats.
Closing wasteful and corrupt bureaus and offices.
Eliminating woke propaganda at every level of government.
Restoring the American people’s Constitutional authority over the administrative state.
Returning governing power to the Congress and President instead of unelected bureaucrats.
Improve Education
Project 2025’s policy reforms would strengthen our education system by:
Expanding school choice, so all children have the option of a great education, regardless of zip code.
Promoting parents’ rights in public education so American schools serve parents, not the other way around.
Removing critical race theory and gender ideology curricula in every public school in the country.
Returning education control to state and local governments.
Shifting some functions of the Department of Education to other departments including Labor, Justice, and Commerce.
Cherry picked cherries taste like cherries.
It’s the whole fucking thing copied and pasted unedited in its entirety right from the Heritage Foundations website, and if you weren’t a terrific fucking retard you would have first clicked on the link before saying something so stupid.
The "whole fucking thing" is over 800 pages long. That is the "entirety" of their reply to the criticisms that are so general as to not say much. That lists vague talking points, not any of the actual details of how they would go about any of it. For example, look at how they plan to "de-weaponize" the federal government:
Firing supposedly “un-fireable” federal bureaucrats.
"supposedly 'unfireable'" is right. The long, long tradition of civil service protections are intended to keep political appointees from firing competent people doing their jobs with integrity when they won't abuse government authority. If there is cause to fire someone because they are abusing government authority, then it should already be possible. If it isn't, then explain what the problems are and how to fix them. But calling to end those protections entirely is just an excuse to reverse the direction of the abuse they claim is happening. Put simply, it is basically saying, "Democrats in the "deep state" have been going after Republicans, so we want to be able to replace them with Republicans that will go after Democrats!"
Closing wasteful and corrupt bureaus and offices.
This is something everyone of every political point of view says that they want. It is all about specifics. What "bureaus and offices" are "wasteful and corrupt," in what way are they wasteful and corrupt, and what is the evidence that this is so? Without answering those questions, we have no way to know if they are sincere about wanting to reduce waste and corruption or whether they just don't like what those offices are supposed to be doing and want an excuse to shut them down.
Eliminating woke propaganda at every level of government.
Yet again, what does this really mean? And do they want to make government more neutral ideologically (in the mechanics of how it works, as policy choices are inherently political), or do they just want to replace left-wing "propaganda" with right-wing propaganda?
Restoring the American people’s Constitutional authority over the administrative state.
The people's authority, or the authority of the conservative billionaire donors that fund the groups that put Project 2025 together? To really restore "the people's" authority, what we really need is to reduce the ability of moneyed special interests to get government to benefit them instead of the larger bulk of the population. The way things work now is that candidates make speeches and promises that appeal to the voters they need to get to the ballot box in order to win, and then promptly do what their donors wanted them to do once in office instead.
Returning governing power to the Congress and President instead of unelected bureaucrats.
Sounds great, but this is more vague pablum. Also, what about unelected judges and justices?
Answer me straight, JasonT20. What about all that is bad? All your doing is raising some "whatifs", but what is wrong about those policies in and of themselves?
Returning governing power to the Congress and President instead of unelected bureaucrats.
Sounds great, but this is more vague pablum. Also, what about unelected judges and justices?
Wait, what? Are you saying judges and justices have governing power? They are there to interpret, not create.
The “whole fucking thing” is over 800 pages long.
No. An implementation strategy is not the actual policy. It's an explanation of ways it can be implemented.
Answer me straight, JasonT20. What about all that is bad? All your doing is raising some “whatifs”, but what is wrong about those policies in and of themselves?
That is missing my point entirely. I can't judge whether what they say is good or bad because it doesn't say enough to judge what it would actually look like in practice. I'm not just raising "whatifs". I am actually asking how those statements are supposed to play out, or I'm suggesting different ways to interpret what they said and how it could work. All of that is me trying to show that this attempt by its advocates to counter criticism as not being accurate isn't doing that job.
Answer me straight then, what that you've seen and/or quoted is a policy that you think I can evaluate rather than a statement of principle, rhetoric, or a broad goal that could be achieved in any number of ways?
Wait, what? Are you saying judges and justices have governing power? They are there to interpret, not create.
Of course judges have governing power. The judiciary is the third branch of government. Their rulings are to be adhered to by the other branches and their orders carried out by the executive. If a judge imposes a judgement against a defendant in a liability case, is that not a governing power, since executive branch authorities will have to ensure that the plaintiff is actually paid what the court said was owed?
Wait, why are you defending Project 2025? Trump has not only disavowed it, he forced the Heritage Foundation president to resign over it.
So neither sarc or Lying Jeffy can address ML’s actual post.
Because they’re disingenuous cunts.
Point out where I "defended" it. I'm just saying that it's completely different from what you blue-haired, septum-piercing cunts are pretending it is.
The "Improve Education" section is wrong in many ways. It still keeps power in the hands of state boards of education which will quickly revert to their original goals of propaganda and loosening children's grasp of reality.
Education and state must be separated like church and state for the same reason: Ideas and policing cannot be combined without eventual tyranny.
"Public" education must be eliminated forever. No greater threat exists than control over the ideas taught to children.
“Public” education must be eliminated forever. No greater threat exists than control over the ideas taught to children.
I'd be interested to know of any modern, industrialized nation that does this. I'd also be interested to know how you think such a (lack of a) system would manage to adequately educate children from households without sufficient means.
There isn’t a conservative cell in Donnie’s fatuous orb.
He gets the GOP playbook from Heritage and the Federalist Society. then he makes up a bunch of lunatic shit to appeal to MAGA.
“There isn’t a conservative cell in Donnie’s fatuous orb.”
Now that’s some serious concern trolling coming from Pluggo, who has often ranted about how evil conservatives are right here in the comments.
Well he's an admitted neocon bushpig after all.
As you’re a pedophile who destroys children’s lives, have you finally give me serious thought to committing suicide?
What about Q-anon?
Let the record reflect someone had a nice thing to say about Brian.
Ooooo! Just when you thought the butthurt Bert Hooverites had all died out.
Communists at the Wall Street Journal:
Trump Is Looking Like a Loser Again
About one third of his remarks at last week’s press conference were false, obtuse or lunatic.
....
By my calculation, about one-third of Mr. Trump’s remarks fell into three categories: false, obtuse or lunatic.
I’m not even talking here about the usual grotesque hyperbolic assertions or baffling verbal manufactures, the finest of which last week was surely the description of “people dying financially because they can’t buy bacon.”
https://www.wsj.com/opinion/trump-is-looking-like-a-loser-again-mar-a-lago-news-conference-2024-election-02ec5c8f?mod=opinion_trendingnow_article_pos1
"Trump Is Looking Like a Loser Again"
Is this the real Trump, though? It is plausible that during the assassination attempt, the winner Trump went down through a trap door on the stage and was replaced by a fake loser Trump, who immediately fussed about his shoes and has been babbling like a fake loser ever since. The winner Trump we all love was probably spirited off to an island of golf and willing porn stars.
Lol. Tell us more.
Much as I've come to like Trump in politics, I like that idea because I wish him the best for what he's done for us, and he doesn't need the tsooris of being president again. It'll be our loss, and thanks to fake loser Trump for absorbing future assassination attempts.
“Communists at the Wall Street Journal:”
An opinion piece?
So? When was the last time communists (other than Molotov) bootlicked or french-kissed christianofascists on the mouth? Seen the Don frenching Xitter Tesla pic?
"The result was "an inefficient and stunningly violent operation that foiled few actual plots, put thousands of people on trial for speaking out against capitalism or the war….and showed an almost total disregard for…constitutional liberties."
A lot of this is avoided since by the government sloughing off the responsibilities to less violent employers. In the 1950s it was Hollywood blacklists that silenced or exiled critics. We see the same thing today with the firings of journalists or pundits calling for a ceasefire in Gaza, or those not sufficiently enthusiastic about repressing those voices.
It seems some people still have a problem with pro terrorism sentiments being expressed through their media outlets. Not you though. I’m sure you won’t be happy until Hamas exterminates the Jews from ‘the river to the sea’.
"It seems some people still have a problem with pro terrorism sentiments being expressed through their media outlets. "
They always have. The question is how we dealt with dissent. In Emma Goldman's time, the police simply beat the crap out of them. Today, they are fired and lose their livelihoods.
" Not you though. "
Enough about state violence and suppression of dissent. Let's discuss me! I know you want to.
You’ve made your hatred of Jews and the existence of Israel very clear.
I'm not a Zionist or a Christian Zionist. I don't believe that God gave permission for the Jews of Israel to lord it over non Jews. I don't understand why you have such trouble understanding this. Perhaps you are so enthralled by Israeli propaganda, you can't think straight. You believe that anyone who calls for a ceasefire in Gaza is a terrorist and a Jew hater, for example.
Anyway, enough about me. How about you sharing your views on Jews, Zionism, and the fate of Israel? Have you got anything interesting or original to add to the discussion?
Remember back in the primaries, there was all this chatter about Republicans voting against Trump in the primary (and supporting DeSantis, Haley, etc.) and how that was potentially worrying for Republican chances for victory in the fall?
Well, guess what. They're going to vote for Trump.
https://www.cnn.com/2024/08/18/politics/iowa-republicans-trump-2024/index.html
Yeah! Why can't they be like the Democrats and not even have a vote, just a coronation.
Iowan’s voted overwhelmingly for Trump in 2020. We don’t want no goddam communists running our country.
Unfortunately there are many communist on both coasts just waiting to pounce.
Of course Iowans voted for Trump. He put most of the big farmers on the dole after his trade wars destroyed their export markets. Wouldn't you rather get paid for not working?
You say a lot of stupid things. Your current commentary is no exception.
Considering the alternative, I understand.
The Republican primaries this were were as free as elections were in Mexico during the seven decades the PRI was in power.
Right.
But the 2020 general election was the most secure in history……..
You really are mindless thrall.
Interesting read about the Eurofication of America and how a Harris regime accelerates the decline.
https://www.spiked-online.com/2024/08/14/kotkin-america-becoming-like-the-eu/
America is turning into the EU
Democrats are steering the US towards European-style censorship, technocratic rule and economic decline.
America designed the EU. It was always a test run.
I look forward to the boiled meat food trucks.
Effete elites gotta, well, emasculate and Eurofy.
Napolitano on the FBI's illegal and unconstitutional raid on Scott Ritter.
https://www.yahoo.com/news/fbi-visits-scott-ritter-080835909.html
In January 2023, the FBI admitted that it intentionally uses the CIA and the NSA to spy on Americans as to whom it has neither probable cause of crime nor even articulable suspicion of criminal behavior.
Articulable suspicion is the linchpin of commencing all criminal investigations. Without requiring suspicion, we are back to fishing expeditions.
The FBI’s admission that it uses the CIA and the NSA to spy for it came in the form of a 906-page FBI rulebook written during the Trump administration, disseminated to federal agents in 2021 and made known to Congress last year.
Last week, when FBI agents searched Ritter’s home in upstate New York, in addition to trucks, guns, a SWAT team and a bomb squad, they arrived with printed copies of two years’ of Ritter’s emails and texts that they obtained without a search warrant. To do this, they either hacked into Ritter’s electronic devices — a felony — or they relied on their cousins, the CIA and the NSA, to do so, also a felony.
It is not a felony if they get The UK or some other foreign government to do it. C'mon man. Get with the government program.
Then it's an act of war.
I just don't know who the good guys are anymore.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/beginning-end-germany-ban-all-new-ukraine-military-aid
I am, tragically, old enough to remember this Ritter guy. Back when GW and his lackeys in the press and congress were trying to sell the WMD pitch for his war on Iraq he was a UN weapons inspector and called shenanigans. After a whole lot of shock, awe and a few hundred thousand corpses everybody decided he was right all along. Which led to a big collective shrug. Anywhoo turns out the Biden regime is going after this guy for unclassified documents from 3 decades ago. Yeah. Go figure.
https://consortiumnews.com/2024/08/16/scott-ritter-a-farewell-to-truth/
Crime way down
https://youtu.be/6ByB00sweDk?si=PLZPtar2bZomXrDN
"she wanted to eliminate private property as well as the state"
In order to have private property you need to have a powerful state that enforces private property at the point of a gun.
Or enough ammo to fight the state off.
More like to fight others off. Somalia is sort of like that today.
America will be just fine when we scrape off you democrats.
Okay, this is super-weird.
https://www.tmz.com/2024/08/18/republicans-jd-vance-carry-fake-cups-semen/
Standard looter flinging. What have either gang to offer that is attractive?
Sounds too authentic.
Broken.
Also:
https://www.shorenewsnetwork.com/2024/08/18/does-kamala-harris-have-a-drinking-problem-trump-team-launches-accusation/
Kamalamadingdoing is supposedly a raging alcoholic. No evidence, just slurred words.
Also:
https://www.yahoo.com/news/donald-trump-jr-spreads-weird-191055384.html
Tim Walz drinks horse semen. Or something.
Have we reached peak idiocracy yet?
Politics is dirty.
Why the fuck do you believe otherwise (or believe it should be better)?
He just hates bad things happening to his lefty heros.
It's not even "dirty", it's just dumb and juvenile.
Horse semen? Really?
It would be one thing if it was some random jackoff posting bullshit on the internet. But in this case, it was Trump's son...
I repeat:
Politics ain't noble.
Also:
Lying Jeffy is a leftist collectivist statist who comes here to lie, deflect, and distract on behalf of evil.
Have we reached peak idiocracy yet?
You reached it the day you showed up here.
Ooo sick burn! Did you read that one in the middle school boy's locker room?
God you all are pathetic.
Do you think about middle school boys' lockers rooms a lot?
They made a meme about Lying Jeffy.
https://x.com/BeesLittleRanch/status/1825472525314470030
Funny, the democrats make jokes far more disgusting than that about republicans (especially Trump) every day. Don’t think I’ve ever heard your fat ass bellyache about that.
Have we reached peak idiocracy yet?
Our respective hate clubs are always halfway there.
Ain't no limit to their stupidity.
Calling communism a different name may fool fellow parasites or even Brian. But Lenin in 1905 saw that anarch- means violent parasite too dumb to organize a party. Like hookworms and tapeworms they infest other parties until the lot of them are strung up.
[T]he Industrial Workers of the World, for example, were nearly annihilated by mass raids and arrests.
So it wasn't all bad....
American Anarchy: The Epic Struggle between Immigrant Radicals and the US Government at the Dawn of the Twentieth Century, by Michael Willrich, Basic Books, 480 pages, $35
Nah, f that. I'm just going to steal it. And break into his house and steal some other stuff. Maybe rape him. Yay anarchy.