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Donald Trump

Actually, Interviewing Presidential Candidates Is a Good Thing

Plus: RFK Jr. thrown off the N.Y. ballot, Ukraine advances into Russia, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 8.13.2024 9:30 AM

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The freakout begins: "Elon Musk is slated to interview [former President] Donald Trump tonight on X…I think that misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue, it's an America issue. What role does the White House or the president have? Any sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that or sort of intervening in that?" a reporter from The Washington Post asked White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre in a moment that went viral yesterday.

Her response was fairly anodyne but alluded to the purportedly problematic nature of Trump being interviewed or platformed at all, which is itself telling.

"You've heard us talk about this many times from here, about the responsibilities that social media platforms have when it comes to misinformation, disinformation," responded Jean-Pierre. "These are also private companies, so we're mindful of that too….I just don't have any specifics on what we have been doing internally as it relates to the interviews."

The fact that a professional journalist—for a massive, mainstream publication—believes it improper for the Republican presidential nominee to be interviewed, and for that interview to reach the ears of more than a million people, remains a bit stunning (that is, if you haven't been paying attention to the journalism-industry meltdown over Trump that's been going on since he announced his candidacy in 2015). Presidential campaigns have long been in the business of spreading, if not misinformation, then at least partial truths and talking points of questionable veracity that are designed to sell.

To act like this was invented by Trump is absurd, and to suggest that the White House—occupied by Trump's former opponent—has a responsibility to stop it is horrifying.

But American journalists aren't the only ones attempting to stop him from being heard.

Just a little reminder: "The European Union's digital enforcer wrote an open letter to tech mogul Elon Musk on Monday ahead of a planned interview with former United States President Donald Trump to remind him of the EU's rules on promoting hate speech," reports Politico. 

"As the relevant content is accessible to EU users and being amplified also in our jurisdiction, we cannot exclude potential spillovers in the EU," wrote Digital Commissioner Thierry Breton on X. "With great audience comes greater responsibility."

Meanwhile, The Guardian reports that Bruce Daisley, Twitter's former vice-president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa, has said Musk should face "personal sanctions"—which are "much more effective on executives than the risk of corporate fines"—and even, possibly, an "arrest warrant" if he "continue[s] stirring up unrest" on the platform.

"The question we are presented with is whether we're willing to allow a billionaire oligarch to camp off the UK coastline and take potshots at our society," says Daisley. "The idea that a boycott—whether by high-profile users or advertisers—should be our only sanction is clearly not meaningful." (All Musk has done, for the record, is criticize British Prime Minister Keir Starmer for his handling of riots over immigration, calling him a "hypocrite" and "two-tier Keir.")

Just incredible that the person who said this was once making executive-level decisions at Twitter:

"Musk's actions should be a wake-up call for Starmer's government to quietly legislate to take back control of what we collectively agree is permissible on social media." https://t.co/9M9W6LMl1G

— Zach Weissmueller (@TheAbridgedZach) August 12, 2024

The EU is threatening X with legal action "in relation to" a planned interview between Elon and Trump, as it may "generate detrimental effects on civic discourse" https://t.co/LbTSaEoiR1

— Mason (@webdevMason) August 12, 2024

Back to the actual event: As for the Trump-Musk discussion itself, the first 30 minutes were marred by technical problems, which Musk attributed to a distributed denial of service (DDoS) attack. The rest was a free-flowing, ostensibly comfortable conversation between Musk and Trump that wasn't even especially revealing.

Trump noted that he wants to shutter the Department of Education and "move education back to the states," conceding that "not every state will do great." (He thinks maybe 35 or so would "do great.") Trump downplayed the threat of global warming, which Musk pushed back on a fair bit. "It's not like the house is on fire immediately," Musk said. "It is something we need to move towards. On balance it's probably better to move faster than slower." And, quite sensibly, that climate progress should happen "without vilifying the oil and gas industry. People can still…drive gasoline cars."

Musk used the opportunity to vent some of his frustration at President Joe Biden and Democratic nominee/Vice President Kamala Harris, saying that talking to them is "like talking to an NPC," or non-player character.

On the dictators of the world, like Russia's Vladimir Putin, Trump said what we already know he believes: "Getting along well with them is a good thing, not a bad thing."

In short, everyone played their part perfectly and predictably. Nothing shocking was revealed. It was moderately interesting, as both Musk and Trump are fascinating characters with strong beliefs who clearly command the respect (or at least the attention) of millions.

Perhaps the most interesting part was how threatened so many people were by this conversation taking place at all.


Scenes from New York: A judge has thrown Robert F. Kennedy Jr. off the state's ballot, so you will—at least as of right now—no longer be able to vote for him if you live here.


QUICK HITS

  • "Trump as de facto Fed Chair is a dangerous idea," writes Jonathan Levin at Bloomberg. "Threatening central bank independence is among the worst economic proposals ever floated by a major-party presidential candidate."
  • "When my mother told me she hadn't ever considered how I felt about growing up without her, my first reaction was that her wiring was off," writes Xochitl Gonzalez in The Atlantic, reflecting on being abandoned by her mother, who pursued Socialist activism instead of parenthood. "But speaking with those two Socialist candidates, I came to view it differently. All around my mother, people were being told to give up one life here and start another there. And they did, no questions asked. She must have seen me as just another comrade being relocated for the movement. She had not considered my feelings because, I suspect, she had not considered her own."
  • Live-caption glasses help deaf people to follow conversations as they're happening.
  • "Ukrainian troops sliced easily through a thinly defended border, pushing tens of miles into Russia and shifting the narrative of the war after a glum year in which Ukraine had struggled, often in vain, to hold back Russian advances across its eastern front," reports The New York Times. "By Monday, Ukraine's commanding general had told President Volodymyr Zelensky that his troops held 390 square miles of territory in Russia's southeastern Kursk region. Two dozen settlements were overrun."
  • So very true:

Disclaimer: The Democrats' "Mind your own damn business" rhetoric applies to abortion only.

Not your money, job, business, school choices, covid "snitch lines," energy usage, DEI-compliance, guns, "hate speech," etc.

Then suddenly "government is what we do together." https://t.co/1N0WOqxtdq

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    I think that misinformation on Twitter is not just a campaign issue, it's an America issue.

    An American journalism issue, to be sure.

    1. HorseConch   10 months ago

      If he's Hitler incarnate, wouldn't listening to him like that for 2 hours help us realize that and repel all of us non-nazis? For some reason, I get the impression they're more afraid of us figuring out he's not Hitler than they are of him brainwashing us.

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        In 1939 Hitlers book was published so people could learn about what the man was thinking, and act accordingly. I doubt that would not happen in today’s world.

        1. mad.casual   10 months ago

          Actually, there were numerous copies published from 1925 onward. Until the end of the war and the fall of The Reich, many were published under The Reich by "private corporations and individuals", producing multiple versions intended for different audiences within and outside Germany.

          Even Manheim, author of the most widely published edition (from 1943), admits omissions and an uneasy clarity in his translation that wasn't present in the original work.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Dude, think like a Gen Z snowflake. Just hearing Hitler, er, Trump speak can actually make your brain explode.

        1. Longtobefree   10 months ago

          If only - - - - - - - -

          1. Eeyore   10 months ago

            If that was possible, it could make for the best reaction videos ever.

      3. CE   10 months ago

        Saturday Night Live had Trump as a guest host back in 2016. Turns out he was warm and funny, as well as a megalomaniac. SNL decided not to do "both sides" humor any more after that, and just cheerlead for the left.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          I didn't watch the episode because I haven't seen the show in over 25 years, but I did catch the "Hotline Bling" parody on YouTube. Fucking hilarious.

    2. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

      Thierry Breton needs to be shot. Seriously, fuck that guy.

      1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

        So many people roll their eyes when I call it fascism (or more accurately Nazism), primarily because progressives have called everything from horse racing to country music "fascist" in the past.

        But these people really are fascist, and what they are doing really is dangerous, and it needs to be called out as such.

        1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

          What is it with Europeans anyway that makes them act like this? Is it something in the water?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

            Weak willed men who think it is right to not fight back against the long March of socialism. A defeated people.

          2. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

            Have you seen the theory that people are self-domesticating? Domestic animals have reduced brain size possibly due to more dependence on a caretaker (submission). Humans, after thousands or millions of years of increasing brain size have reversed trend over the last 100,000 years.

            Humans became more dependent on society and agriculture. We see a decreasing trend for violence and conquest. Europe, being the first industrialized, highly urbanized society may be the furthest along to self-domestication (i.e. passive submission).

            Alternatively, it may just be that WWI and WWII have broken Europe.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              I like the theory brains are shrinking due to making psychedelic illegal.

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                Being a Democrat shrinks your brain. Then we have Sarc, who gets the double whammy because of his severe, lifelong alcohol abuse. Now he’s an obedient puppy for Jeffy and Shrike.

            2. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

              Humans, after thousands or millions of years of increasing brain size have reversed trend over the last 100,000 years.
              Humans became more dependent on society and agriculture.

              Neanderthals and European early modern humans (EEMH) such as Cro-Magnon 1 and the Red “Lady” of Paviland (actually a guy), all have bigger cranial sizes than any 21st century human. Average brain volume for EEMH was estimated to have been about 90.2 cu in to 92.4 cu in. In comparison, present-day Europeans average 82 cu in, which is notably smaller.

              The invention of agriculture in eastern Anatolia really did a number on the first farmers.

              The Pleistocene Gravettian hunters were as tall as today’s Dutch with men usually over 6′ tall healthy bones and great teeth.

              Within 2000 years of agriculture’s spread their partial descendants, the Neolithic Early European Farmers (EEF), rarely made it over 5’4″. EEF had bad teeth, smaller brains, arteriosclerosis and had become stunted, most of which can be attributed to their radical dietary change.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                I thought I remember reading that Americans were about half a foot taller than their European counterparts, on average, because they had access to so much more food and in much greater variety.

                The thing is, most of them did not have large farms, they were mostly small plots with a garden, and any fields of forage crops were primarily reserved for the livestock, especially if there wasn’t a mill nearby to grind wheat and barley into flour. Not that they didn’t bake bread or pies, but most of their diet really consisted of fruits, vegetables, wild game, livestock, fat in various forms like buttermilk and butter, and whatever seasonal stuff they might find in the woods like blackberries or cherries or whatever. Grain foods were mostly bread, dumplings, and biscuits.

                Stuff like that is pretty compelling evidence that homo sapiens weren’t really evolutionarily designed to subsist primarily on grain foods. We’re more meant for single-source foods that don’t require a lot of work and extra ingredients to create.

            3. CE   10 months ago

              One theory was that bravest and most resolute young men died off in WW1 (and WW2), since those with heroic genes (if such a thing exists) were disproportionately those to die.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

                And that followed a couple of centuries of emigration by those who were also bold, ambitious, and/or intolerant of authority.

          3. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

            What is it with Europeans anyway that makes them act like this?

            They allow a preponderance of leftists to govern them.

            Thankfully, the Democrats don’t have similar plans for the US.

            1. Zeb   10 months ago

              You are just describing the symptoms in slightly different words. Why do they allow that?

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                The same reason Americans do. They have been poorly educated and indoctrinated with unsound logic by the Marxists that reign throughout academia. The British have just been at it longer.

                Even otherwise great critical thinkers like George Orwell were seduced by socialism. I understand. It is difficult to comprehend that unmitigated suffering is always the inevitable result of a philosophy with such a lofty goal as the equality of all men. Orwell thoroughly exposed the horrors of collectivization and cultural revolution, yet people are easily convinced it will be different next time when the details are hidden from them.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                  Orwell thoroughly exposed the horrors of collectivization and cultural revolution, yet people are easily convinced it will be different next time when the details are hidden from them.

                  It wasn't just the horrors of Stalinism that made him a critic of European socialism, he also got first-hand experience in how the left eats its own when he went to Spain to fight for the commies. He ended up having to mount an escape from the country before the commies had him executed for being a Trotsky sympathizer.

                  Orwell always remained an idealist about the philosophy, but it's pretty clear that, by the end of his life, his critical thinking abilities made him very skeptical about the ability of imperfect humans to implement it without oppressing everyone else in turn. Utopia means "nowhere" for a reason, after all.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

        At the least, an arrest warrant issued for Thierry Breton for violating US election laws. Let’s see how funny he thinks this all is then.

        1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

          Now that would be hilarious.

          1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

            Unfortunately, Garland would never do it. He’s on their side. A red state attorney general, on the other hand…

        2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          Yes. The forgiving tit-for-tat strategy of most Western countries has revealed that cooperating with leftists only results in ever-increasing demands on their part. The high utility of protecting a recognized natural right requires an escalating tit-for-tat strategy. For example, attempts by foreign powers to quell free speech in the US should be met with denial, then sanction, then force.

          The President needs to tell them to fuck off right now. If they arrested Musk, immediately seize all British goods in customs. If they don't produce him, I would call for the arrest of every British citizen in our country. The British need to riot harder and get those fuckers out of office.

          1. JohnZ   10 months ago

            If they actually managed to arrest Musk, as president I would recall our ambassador and all consulate from Britain and order theirs to leave.
            I would then embargo all British products, Rolls Royce, Marshal amps, anything from that failed state.

        3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          Well, at least you aren't calling for him to be murdered for having the audacity to say, "with great audience comes greater responsibility". You just want him "Assanged" for saying, "with great audience comes greater responsibility". That's much less fascist.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

            You would call reasonable men who are fed up with what is demonstrably fascism "fascist" for their hyperbole?

            Fuck off, shitweasel. I hope you end up with a hole in your head after your revolution starts.

      3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

        Needless to say, you’re suggesting someone else commit the necessary mortal sin, first degree murder, etc. You wouldn’t do it yourself, of course, but you’d happily cheer on someone just a wee bit more courageous than yourself.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          I would take the shot. We need a lot more sic semper tyrannis in the world, you fucking lefty shill.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

            Good to know. One for the "I am a murderer, not a coward" pile.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

              Look, a lefty pile of shit conflating murder and justice. What a surprise.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                In which shithole country do random citizens get to "take the shot" to assassinate government officials--provided it is done in the cause of "justice"?

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  I assumed there was going to be a trial where he convicted of a capital offense. Our Constitution does allow for that.

                  1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                    Ah, so when you said, "Thierry Breton needs to be shot. Seriously, fuck that guy", and, "I would take the shot", you weren't calling for the assassination of a foreign government official without trial (and, indeed, carrying out the murder yourself), you were simply volunteering for the position of "volunteer firing-squad-man", should a legitimate court of law convict him of the heinous capital offense of uttering the words, "with great audience comes greater responsibility". A perfect call, as they say!

                    (Lol, your furious backpedalling reads more like you just noticed your VPN was on the blink at a rather inconvenient time...)

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        I couldn't think of a better modern representation of O'Brien than that asshole.

    3. CE   10 months ago

      “Musk won’t do what we tell him!!!!” (progressives stamp feet, and storm off, steaming)

  2. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    I just don't have any specifics on what we have been doing internally as it relates to the interviews.

    Read the Twitter Files, Jean-Pierre. You'll get the gist.

    1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

      Twitter is dead, my man. No point in dredging up old shit.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

      Perhaps Merrick Garland over at the DOJ can bring Karine up to speed on the specifics of “what we have been doing internally” to censor speech at Twitter, before Musk fucked it all up.

  3. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Democrats fortifying democracy!

    And not just NY...

    WSJ:

    New York Judge Blocks RFK Jr. From Ballot in Residency Challenge
    Ruling could hurt the independent candidate’s ability to stay on the ballot in other states

    ALBANY, N.Y.—A New York state judge ruled Monday that presidential hopeful Robert F. Kennedy Jr.doesn’t have a valid residence in the state, a blow to his already-struggling campaign that could spur additional challenges around the country and knock him off the ballot here.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      RFK jr. is a crazy person with a worm in his brain that put a dead bear in Central Park.

      1. HorseConch   10 months ago

        No, he's a crazy person with a worm in his brain that put a dead bear in Central Park 10 years ago.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Was the bear in his trunk?

          1. R Mac   10 months ago

            It was! So the real question is how many people did it maul on the way to the park?

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              At least 3M were saved by masking that bear while in the trunk.

              1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

                The secret was double masking.

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                  If only Ponce de Leon had known.

        2. CE   10 months ago

          And crazy people aren't barred from the ballot.

        3. Wally   10 months ago

          Was the bear killed by the Clintons?

      2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        Then don’t vote for him. Democrats are using every screw they can turn to prevent lesser-party candidates from siphoning off even one vote from their ticket. Their “fortification” of elections only works one way, and it entirely undemocratic.

        If Trump&GOP was suing to get Libertarians off tickets and RFK off tickets, the entire world would be outraged, but when Democracts sue to get RFK, Greens, etc. off of ballots, it's (D)ifferent.

        1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          Don’t get me wrong, he should be allowed on the ballot just like anyone else. He just doesn’t deserve any votes.

          1. HorseConch   10 months ago

            I'm not voting for him, but the D's are dead wrong to try and keep him off the ballot.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

              Clearly, you don't understand how Democracy! works.

            2. Ersatz   10 months ago

              dead wrong political freedom-wise (ie philosophically)
              dead right - political cut throat-win-at-all-costs powergrab-wise

          2. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

            The bear thing was a hilarious prank and most of the crazy are the same sort of smears they smeared Trump with.

            1. Ersatz   10 months ago

              makes Kristi's misadventure with a dangerous dog look benign in comparison

            2. JohnZ   10 months ago

              He had help from Grizzly Adams.
              And the Chicago Bears.

          3. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

            I agree.

          4. Zeb   10 months ago

            Very few people deserve any votes. Yet people still go and vote.

        2. sarcasmic   10 months ago

          https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/26/republicans-libertarians-ballot-texas-november/

          Looks like Texas Republicans tried to get Libertarians off the ballot in 2020 and 2022. If Libertarians are a bunch of leftists like people in these comments claim, why on Earth would Republicans want them off the ballot? They’d be siphoning votes from Democrats.

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

            Poor sarc.

            You’ve never complained the dozens and dozens of times dems did this to candidates, even Trump. In fact you helped push the insurrection narrative they used.

            1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

              Go away you idiot. I'm trying to have a conversation with an adult.

              1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

                No you weren’t, you were trying to troll and Jesse fucked it up by pointing out facts.

              2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                No you aren’t lol.

                You saw criticism of something the dems are doing and rushed to change the argument to attack the GOP.

                You and Jeff tend to scream whataboutism when this occurs the other way.

                Have you even heard of Marc Elias?

                Or should I go with:

                “Youre okay with dems doing this because Republicans did it first” (lie by the way)

                1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                  I was responding to this sentence "If Trump&GOP was suing to get Libertarians off tickets and RFK off tickets, the entire world would be outraged" and proving it false by showing instances where that happened and it was relegated to local news.

                  Fucking idiot.

                  1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

                    Poor sarc.

                    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      Pour Sarc indeed. A quart a day.

                  2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                    No. You were rushing to the defense of your team. Where was Trump even involved in either of your links you TDS addled fuck? Lol.

                  3. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

                    No one else will say it, so I will. Good point.

                    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

                      You know you said something stupid when brix agrees with you.

                    2. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

                      I agree!

                    3. Ersatz   10 months ago

                      i love how QB’s ‘I agree’ comes after DontLookAtMe’s comment
                      😉

                    4. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

                      Me too, Ersatz.

                  4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                    I was responding to this sentence “If Trump&GOP was suing to get Libertarians off tickets and RFK off tickets, the entire world would be outraged” and proving it false by showing instances where that happened and it was relegated to local news.

                    Shorter Sarc:

                    "Ipso facto, Mean Girlz!"

                    Except you didn't prove a fucking thing because the Democrats were successful where the Republicans were not (even in a Republican friendly court), so the only outrage required was local.

                    You really are the skidmark of this commentariat.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

              You’ve never complained the dozens and dozens of times dems did this to candidates

              Literally confession via projection. It's Jesse and his crowd who doesn't complain when Republicans use lawfare to try to keep third parties off the ballot that they think will hurt their cause by splitting their team's vote, and/or surreptitiously support third parties to get ballot access that they think will help their cause by splitting the other team's vote.

              1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                Literally confession via projection.

                He does that a lot.

                1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                  And the lapdog shows up to defend jeff as mentioned below lol.

                  Self delusion is strong in you two.

                  1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                    He’s an obedient puppy for his morbidly obese pedophillic master.

                2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  He does that a lot.

                  And Sarcumsac never engages in ad hominem and only discusses ideas, never people.

              2. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

                Remember when you denounced Speedy Gonzalez as racist?

                1. R Mac   10 months ago

                  He was so upset.

          2. R Mac   10 months ago

            “If Libertarians are a bunch of leftists like people in these comments claim”

            No, you moronic lying leftist, we claim you leftists aren’t really libertarians.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              There is a reason liberaltarians became a descriptor.

              Still amuses me how much sarc cries for having his ideology cried out as he calls others cultists. Such a hypocritical hack. Just too dumb to realize it.

              His new venture of calling everyone homophobes and racists (by new i mean since 2016) for disagreeing with his dem created narratives is hilarious.

          3. CE   10 months ago

            Texas libertarians are a bit different from California libertarians.
            Remember Michael Badnarik?

          4. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

            Okay, I guess my prediction was wrong. Nobody cares about major parties using esoteric lawfare to push smaller parties off of ballots.

            But I still tend to think that if Trump stood up tomorrow and said he thought that RFK shouldn't be on the ballot, that Dems would pillory him for being undemocratic. I guess I could be wrong, though.

          5. DesigNate   10 months ago

            I remember bitching about that when they tried to do it.

        3. sarcasmic   10 months ago

          https://oregoncapitalchronicle.com/2024/07/29/despite-denials-records-show-oregon-republican-party-trying-to-keep-libertarians-off-the-ballot/

          Despite denials, records show Oregon Republican Party trying to keep Libertarians off the ballot
          The Oregon Republican Party’s attorney urged the Secretary of State to target Libertarian ballot access

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

            So that justifies Democratic Party actions?

            1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

              Of course not. But it proves that MO was wrong when he said the world would be outraged if the GOP tried to get Libertarians off the ballot. Didn’t even make national news. Both Democrats and Republicans are wrong for trying to get third parties off the ballot. Yes, both sides.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                You do indeed seem outraged… when the gop does it. Seem not to care dems are currently doing it or have a long history of it. Lol.

                See Colorado and Maine trying to get trump off the ballot and your views then.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

              Why can’t you just admit “both teams try to manipulate ballot access rules to give themselves a perceived advantage”?

              Go on, I bet you can. Maybe you can take a break from your constant "Democrats are awful and Republicans are just misunderstood".

              1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                Why can’t you just admit “both teams try to manipulate ballot access rules to give themselves a perceived advantage”?

                Because that would be honest. Remember that they have to disagree with me as a matter of principle. So when I showed that both sides do do it, they went on the attack. They'd rather lie than agree with someone they hate. Fucking mental.

                1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                  Walk away Sarc. This isn’t going well for you. Or your morbidly obese master.

                2. R Mac   10 months ago

                  You literally admitted you couldn’t agree with people because you hate them.

              2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                Yes jeff. Why didn’t sarc point this out and instead immediately pointed to the GOP without any comment on the DNC.

                This is tough to figure out. Lol.

                Why was he uncritical of the dems in this instance? Why Jeff why?

                Why are you also here screaming whataboutism like you always do jeff?

                If sarc had a single mention of this time being bad instead of redirecting the accusation to only the GOP you would have a point. But that is not what he did.

                God you two are retarded.

                A simple: "this is bad but both sides do it" would have been easy to add . Sarc did not do this now did he?

                You two get so angry having your intentional behaviors highlighted.

                1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                  Because MO's statement "If Trump&GOP was suing to get Libertarians off tickets and RFK off tickets, the entire world would be outraged" clearly meant that Republicans have never done that, because if they had then it would have been international news.

                  I showed that that happens regularly, and barely makes local news.

                  Why can't you criticize Republicans for trying to take third parties off the ballot? It's the end of the world when evil Democrats do it. Instead of criticizing Republicans you attack the messenger.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                    I asked above. What does Trump have to do with any of it dumdum?

                    Again. You had zero criticism of this instance. None. Not a single statement regarding it. Youre 2 posts were solely about the GOP. Uncritical of what is being done to RFK.

                    That is an intentional action on your part. And as mentioned you even went along, just like Jeff did, with the insurrection theory from Colorado and Maine to kick Trump off the ballot.

                    1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                      Dude, I was highly critical of CO and ME. You’re not posting bookmarked comments because you don’t have any to back up your lies. And instead of criticizing Republicans you keep attacking the messenger.

                      Fuck off.

                    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      Post your own cite Drunky.

                    3. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                      And instead of criticizing Republicans you keep attacking the messenger.

                      The messenger that is comparing unsuccessful attempts by Rs to this successful attempt by Ds? I hope that messenger crashes his bike in a way that his head comes off.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                  This is you trying to construct your own reality via gaslighting.

                  Both Sarc and I disproved MO's implication that it was only Democrats using lawfare to manipulate ballot access in their favor. And you want to twist this into "but he's defending Democrats" because that is how you amuse yourself by playing games with people. You really are a despicable human being. Didn't you mention once that you run your own business? You must be one of those guys who treats his employees horribly, and then when they quit, you blame "kids these days" or "illegals" or "Biden" or somesuch.

                  1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                    Didn’t you mention once that you run your own business?

                    Pretty sure he's an employee at a government contractor. I'm guessing he works in IT support because he accuses me of that all the time so I figure it's confession by projection.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                      Figures that he is collecting stolen tax money as his paycheck while demanding that everyone else collecting stolen tax money are just "moochers" and "deadbeats". Yeah, they are all deadbeats... except him, of course

                    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      Please, both you bitches are on welfare. Stop lying about others here.

                    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      Lol. Given all the other competencies I’ve mentioned here it should be obvious I’m not IT.

                      Guess this demonstrates how yours and Jeff's confession by projection is yet another lie or example of your stupidity. Choose.

                      Weird how you both resort to accusing others after people point you you two living in projections.

              3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

                Sure. But the dominant narrative has been focused on (R) accusations of (D) shenanigans, and the (D) response that they are 100% pure. That just might justify calling out Democrats more.

                1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                  The dominant narrative in the comments is that everything Republicans do is justified because Democrats did it first.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                    Oh the fucking irony lol. I even called you out for this line of argumentation above. Fucking. Hilarious.

                    1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                      I'm not responding to all your false premises. This is tiresome. Back on mute you go.

                    2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      Re-shun!

                    3. R Mac   10 months ago

                      We want the list!

                    4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      How is it false? You just did what I mocked you doing constantly. You did the object of the mockery.

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

                    The dominant narrative strawman I post endlessly in the comments is that everything Republicans do is justified because Democrats did it first.

                2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                  That just might justify calling out Democrats more.

                  Oh no no no, that is not the Reason commenting standard.

                  The Reason commenting standard is that if you call out one team more than the other team, it means you are actually defending the other team. So that means you are a Trump-bot MAGAt Rethuglikkkan. I mean that is how it works when the standard is applied to me, right? So that is what it must mean when the standard is applied to you.

                  1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                    The Reason commenting standard is that if you call out one team more than the other team at all, it means you are actually defending the other team.

                    FTFY

                    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                      See. Now this is projection as you and Jeff call anyone who doesn't fall for every corporate media/dnc lie a cultist. Lol.

                      You two fuckheads even pushed Trump is Hitler for fucking weeks.

                      What a good lapdog.

        4. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

          If Trump&GOP was suing to get Libertarians off tickets

          https://www.texastribune.org/2022/08/26/republicans-libertarians-ballot-texas-november/

          The Texas Supreme Court on Friday rejected a Republican effort to remove a host of Libertarian candidates from the November ballot, saying the GOP did not bring their challenge soon enough.

          https://reason.com/2015/07/17/republicans-spent-more-than-half-a-milli/

          Ohio Republicans Spent More Than Half a Million Keeping Libertarian Gubernatorial Candidate Charlie Earl Off Ballot

          so yeah, both sides do it

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

            Interesting to see the comments on that Reason article cited above. None of the usual mean girls make an appearance saying anything negative about what the Ohio GOP did to try to keep a Libertarian off the ballot. Huh. I wonder why that is.

            1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

              It shows that their attacks in the form of "You never criticize Democrats which proves your on their team" are, as you said above, confession by projection.

              1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                I criticize the GOPe more than you ever criticize democrats lol. See every fucking thread even slightly negative of a Democrat. Guess what your posts are?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

                  I'm not talking about "the GOPe". I'm talking about the Republican Party as a whole, including Trump, including all the morons like MTG and Bobbert and Gaetz. You and ML are the biggest shills for Team Red here. If you are not being paid by them, then you should be because you are otherwise providing your labor on their behalf for free.

                  1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

                    Nope. Thats you with the democrats. Or you’re circle jerking with the pedophile and/or the morbidly obese pedophile.

                    1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

                      Kreemjeff's usual tactic when he's being lazy is to accuse others of what it was just pointed out he was doing.

                      Hope he didn't get more than 5 cents for that post.

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

            Unfortunately, in Jeffy’s idiocy, he posted a link that proves he is semi-functionally illiterate. The Rs in this case were clapping back against a candidate that the Ds had pulled shenanigans to get on the ballot.

            District Judge Michael H. Watson found that it was “obvious” that “operatives or supporters of the Ohio Republican Party” had indeed hired a “dupe” to bring about Earl’s electoral demise.

            Unfortunately, the dupe—Gregory Felsoci, an LPO member who filed a formal complaint with the secretary of state’s office challenging signatures the party collected—did have a point, the judge decided: Earl’s petition circulators had not disclosed that they were being paid by the LPO.

            The LPO argued back that Ohio’s petition-circulator rules are selectively enforced, and their enforcement here merely a matter of Earl’s potential to siphon votes away from incumbent Republican Gov. John Kasich. (Ohio Democrats, for their part, worked to get Earl on the ballot, ostensibly for this very reason.) [emphasis added]

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

              Oh, wow. What a devastating comeback. If only someone had said "both sides do it". Wait a minute, someone did say that - it was me!

              Unlike you and your team, of course, who really do come here to defend your team and attack the other team.

              1. sarcasmic   10 months ago

                If only someone had said “both sides do it”. Wait a minute, someone did say that – it was me!

                ditto

                1. R Mac   10 months ago

                  You retards are a riot.

              2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                If only someone had said “both sides do it”.

                Utilizing an unethical system to undo an a prior unethical act is not inherently unethical. Take a class, dipshit.

              3. DesigNate   10 months ago

                I love that your solution to Democrat fuckery is to lie back and take it.

            2. R Mac   10 months ago

              “he posted a link that proves he is semi-functionally illiterate.”

              Or, and here me out here, he was being dishonest.

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                We can't discount that both can be true simultaneously

          3. DesigNate   10 months ago

            That thread had 59 comments and neither of you were in there calling it out either.

            That doesn’t prove dick.

      3. Jerry B.   10 months ago

        "RFK jr. is a crazy person with a worm in his brain that put a dead bear in Central Park."

        So, still better than the other two?

        1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          You are free to think as you wish.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

            You don't really mean that.

            1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

              I also don’t care about your opinions.

    2. Randy Sax   10 months ago

      I'm confused, why is residency a requirement for ballot access?

      1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

        Does Kamala have a residence there either?

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Do hotels where she shacked up with influential men count?

          1. JohnZ   10 months ago

            How many cheap hotels has she occupied over night? I hear Motel 6 keeps the light on just for her.

      2. Zeb   10 months ago

        Yeah, I don't know how that applies for someone running for president. If he was running for senate or a state office, it would make a lot more sense.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Like Hillary?

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

          I believe it is about properly identifying the candidate, otherwise some other Robert Francis Kennedy could claim his 0.05% of the vote.

      3. mad.casual   10 months ago

        Don’t ask. Just quietly enact reciprocal residency requirements against NY and CA politicians in your home state. Repeat for 1-2 election cycles until, down the line, there’s a US President and a President of NY/CA.

      4. CE   10 months ago

        It's not. The judge banned Kennedy from the ballot on a technicality. He has an apartment in New York, is registered to vote in New York, and has a law license in New York. But he mostly lives in California. So the judge saw an opportunity to "protect Democrat-cy" by saying Kennedy lied on his ballot access petition.

        1. Randy Sax   10 months ago

          Thanks for the clarification

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Protecting democracy.

    4. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      The ruling was apparently based on him "falsely claiming a New York residence on nominating petitions despite living in California". In other words, "election fraud".

      Sorry, Bobby, no special rules.

  4. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

    "With great audience comes greater responsibility."

    And the EU government, with its great audience ... where lies your responsibility?

    Even more important, where lies your accountability? Even as you seek to hold foreigners accountable, who holds you accountable? Your government is designed to not be held accountable.

    1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

      Breton needs a chippin'.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Poor Europeans, can't get over millennia of autocratic rule. Even their hard core socialists and communists reverted to rule by the elite class.

    3. mad.casual   10 months ago

      "With great audience comes greater responsibility."

      So, what comes with the live off regional welfare, obstruct traffic, rape and kill women and girls, and set shit on fire audience?

      1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

        Stop with the culture shaming.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    The fact that a professional journalist—for a massive, mainstream publication—believes it improper for the Republican presidential nominee to be interviewed, and for that interview to reach the ears of more than a million people, remains a bit stunning...

    They've been freaking out since the role of gatekeeper has been ripped from them unceremoniously by the internet. Trump just gives them, they believe, a cudgel to steal it back with the approval of the rest of the pajama class and its useful idiots.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      The loss of control was the real problem.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Don't forget the loss of self-control, or really the rejection of growing up and learning to deal with a world full of contrary ideas and people.

    2. CE   10 months ago

      No one is worried about Harris doing live, unscripted interviews!

      1. JohnZ   10 months ago

        What could be done is for someone to record the entire interview and then add laugh tracks after every sentence or at least strategically placed, kinda like listening to old radio shows.

        1. R Mac   10 months ago

          Drink your Ovaltine! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      A single journalist asks a badly phrased question about the White House's plans to combat "misinformation on Twitter[sic]", and that is offered as conclusive evidence of a "freakout" worthy of leading the article...

      The only obvious "freakout" here is Liz's wholly unfounded claim that "a professional journalist—for a massive, mainstream publication—believes it improper for the Republican presidential nominee to be interviewed, and for that interview to reach the ears of more than a million people". He was asking about "campaign misinformation", not about somehow de-platforming Trump.

      Jumping to censoring interviews from a question and answer about misinformation and disinformation is just Liz being (characteristically?) hysterical.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        You’re too retarded to do this schtick well.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          ONS wants Biden's Ministry of Truth back but doesn't want to admit it.

      2. DesigNate   10 months ago

        You know that’s just one of many instances, right? Right?

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          Too many to mention, apparently!

    4. Stuck in California   10 months ago

      I really think they're just looters at this point, in the Rand sense. They've taken over what was once a powerful institution with a strong voice and millions of people listening that now people view with utter contempt.

      So they're the equivalent of mad that they've burned their neighborhood to the ground and they can't buy gas or go shopping anymore.

      I can say the same for Hollywood. They DEId themselves into "powerful" positions, only to blame others when they put out shit products with unlikable stars.

      They've all forgotten WHY these institutions had an audience. They just assumed the audience always exists, is required to keep listening, and now they get to be the one to preach to it.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Any sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that or sort of intervening in that?

    She'll talk to the president - who she reminds everyone is still very much sharper than everyone else in the world and is totally in control of his administration - about stopping the, um, misinformation.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Right after nap time.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

      Say what you will about the fucking Democrats, they know a thing or two about “misinformation”.

      While difficult to do so, they’ve managed to top their years long Weekend at Bernie’s routine with Brandon, by claiming:

      Kamala has the full, joyful support of the DNC
      -and-
      Walz isn’t a leftist asshole, he’s just a fatherly, common sense war hero that wants the gov to mind it’s own damn business.

      Their bullshit never sleeps

  7. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    "abandoned by her mother, who pursued Socialist activism instead of parenthood."

    Communist Manifesto:

    Abolition [Aufhebung] of the family! Even the most radical flare up at this infamous proposal of the Communists.
    On what foundation is the present family, the bourgeois family, based?
    On capital, on private gain. In its completely developed form, this family
    exists only among the bourgeoisie. But this state of things finds its
    complement in the practical absence of the family among the
    proletarians, and in public prostitution.
    The bourgeois family will vanish as a matter of course when its
    complement vanishes, and both will vanish with the vanishing of capital.

    The bourgeois clap-trap about the family and education, about the
    hallowed co-relation of parents and child, becomes all the more
    disgusting, the more, by the action of Modern Industry, all the family ties
    among the proletarians are torn asunder, and their children transformed
    into simple articles of commerce and instruments of labour.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Most people don't know this, and forgot how common it was for radical groups in the 1960s and 70s to not just crush the concept of family, but to deliberately push their comrades not to form romantic couples. Good radicals had to sleep with all others, without any special attachments or jealousy.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        Yeah, it's based off of the general social deviance that Marcuse promoted in "Eros and Civilization," which basically stated that capitalism could be destroyed with orgies.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          Only a guy would think of that.

        2. CE   10 months ago

          And it helps to convince parents that it takes a village to raise a child, because no one knows whose kid it is anyway.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Trump downplayed the threat of global warming, which Musk pushed back on a fair bit.

    Elon truly became a journalist with that bit of self-interested line of questioning.

  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    Meanwhile, in Colorado, reported by the Denver Post:

    Gov. Jared Polis, lawmakers face growing calls for special session to stem property tax ballot measures
    Colorado policymakers faced growing calls Monday for a special session on property taxes — for the second time in less than a year — to cut taxes even more and head off a pair of ballot initiatives that opponents warn would be disastrous for government budgets and services.

    (Yup, nothing like it when Champions of Democracy want to use democracy to prevent democracy. But who does democracy better, the demos or the kratos?)

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Stupid pesky voters. What do they know anyway?

      1. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

        (D)ifferent.

        When Trump says he's going to stop taxing tips, the results will be disastrous budgetary results to the tune of $250B over a decade. When Harris says the exact same thing, she's a hero to the working class.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Watching how "trusted news" covered the same policy is hilarious.

          https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1823069482040144134

          1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            Don’t you even orange man bad, bro?

          2. R Mac   10 months ago

            I appreciate that they’re not pretending anymore at least.

            1. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

              It is incredible to me. VP Harris has not given a press conference or interview for 23 DAYS, and our Advocacy Journalism MSM is strangely incurious about wanting to talk to her. She is looking for a promotion, and refuses to do a job interview.

              Who is the bigger threat to democracy: Orange Man Bad, who talks to the people and the press; or, VP Word Salad who is silent.

              This is an election for POTUS. The MSM is swinging it...again.

              1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

                Yeah but we're basking in so much joy nobody has noticed.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                It is incredible to me. VP Harris has not given a press conference or interview for 23 DAYS, and our Advocacy Journalism MSM is strangely incurious about wanting to talk to her. She is looking for a promotion, and refuses to do a job interview.

                Because it's a coronation, not a job application, and everyone knows it. She doesn't need to do an interview because the press is already providing in-kind political help by parroting her campaign's press releases.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

                  And it seems like they learned their lesson about giving Trump too much air time and free publicity.

                2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

                  Nobody even had the chance to cast a single vote for her.

                  1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

                    They did four years ago.

                    Look how well that turned out.

                3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  That's just loser talk! Don't give up already.

                  Maybe it's not too late to switch your candidate, too?

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                    Yes, how dare anyone point out the self-described cabal when it acts like one.

                    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      You should be holding "Free Joe Biden" rallies, seeing how he's been so cruelly taken away from you when you needed him most.

                    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                      Why? The two idiots you're voting for are going to end up kicking off a civil war with the way things are going. Once it's go time, the candidates are irrelevant. Just ask Cato the Younger, Cassius, and Brutus how that worked out.

                    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      Red Hat White Heart threatening CIVIL WAR II...

                      Be very afraid!

                    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                      Ask Joseph Rosenbaum and Anthony Huber how that worked out.

                    5. DesigNate   10 months ago

                      He quiet literally said that the Dem nominees are going to “end up kicking it off.”

                      That’s not a threat, it’s an observation you massive fucking knob.

              3. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

                VP Harris has not given a press conference or interview for 23 DAYS

                That’s because she has smart people in charge of her campaign, who are trying to win an election.

                And there’s no fucking way her people will agree to a debate with Trump. Trump would just let her destroy herself, yapping nonsense and exposing her complete unlikability.

                But I’m hoping they’ll let Vance and Walz debate, that would be a must see.

                1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Try to keep up, fu. ABC News said last week that Harris and Trump have both agreed to debate on September 10.

                  https://abcnews.go.com/US/trump-agreed-offer-abc-news-debate-harris/story?id=112685962

          3. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

            The Celebration Parallax

            On no subject is the Parallax more prevalent than immigration. Depending on who’s doing the talking, the demographic transformation of the United States is either a glorious trend that portends a permanent Democratic majority and a more “vibrant” future, or else a “conspiracy theory” that is not happening in any way at all, no-how.

            The Left insists that concerns from certain quarters that immigration policy in America (and Europe) amounts to a “great replacement” is a “dangerous,” “evil,” “racist,” “false” “conspiracy theory.” But a leftist New York Times columnist can write an article entitled “We Can Replace Them” and … nothing. Same fundamental point, except she’s all for it and her targets aren’t. A U.S. Senator can exult that demographic change will doom Republicans. Joe Biden himself can refer to an “unrelenting stream of immigration.” Except they’re celebrating it and calling for it. Anyone on the Right who uses the exact same words will not merely be denounced; the very fact pattern that is affirmed when Biden says it will be denied when the Rightist repeats it.

            https://americanmind.org/salvo/thats-not-happening-and-its-good-that-it-is/

          4. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

            https://x.com/CorruptMM/status/1822718281465135488

          5. damikesc   10 months ago

            Main difference, of course, being that she is DIRECTLY responsible for the problem in the first place.

            She DID provide the vote to pass that inflation reduction act nonsense.

          6. Super Scary   10 months ago

            What are the chances that the "facts changed?" That's usually the go to.

          7. DesigNate   10 months ago

            But the media totally aren’t the enemy of the people.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Quick reminder for those who don’t know:

      For nearly four decades, Colorado had what was known as the Gallagher Amendment. This measure was based on a “make growth pay for itself” idea that kept residential and commercial property taxes in a 45/55 split. This resulted in Colorado having some of the lowest residential property taxes in the country.

      In the decades after TABOR passed, Democrats increasingly complained that Gallagher was artificially constraining tax revenue as the state’s population exploded, especially on the Front Range. Even as the state increasingly turned indigo blue, they’ve never been able to convince enough residents to repeal TABOR, so they went after Gallagher because it was low-hanging fruit. In 2020, with Democrats declining ever further into their collective mental illness, they convinced enough of their fellow dumbass Democrat vermin in the state to repeal Gallagher, despite warnings that it would result in skyrocketing residential property tax rates.

      Sure enough, in a couple of years residential property tax rates went through the roof in line with the massive cost of housing increases that have taken place in the state since around 2015.
      Now the fucktarded Democrat politicians who caused the problem by putting up the repeal of Gallagher for a vote, are now trying to come up with some galaxy-brained accounting scheme to cover for their mistake.

      Think of how stupid California Democrats are, and then deviate that collective intelligence down by a factor of 10. That’s the level of stupidity of Colorado Democrats.

      1. Eeyore   10 months ago

        400% increase in 3 years. Fking midget brain voters.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          Democrats always want more taxes, and like a bunch of spoiled-ass children they always want someone else to foot the bill. That's why I love going into comment sections on this and mock these idiots by shoving their "taxes are the price we pay for civilization" line down their throats.

          Seriously, if they had to pay the tax rates ordinary Europeans do for their gibs, they'd start another American revolution.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Once upon a time, Colorado also accommodated hippy living, i.e. cheap housing, on the Front Range and in mountain towns. That is pretty much gone (except on the MAGA eastern Colorado plains). I wonder how many hippies who hung on to property, with greatly inflated value and tax assessments, feel about property tax policy.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Hippies shouldn’t be allowed to own private property, in accordance with their beliefs.

          1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

            Sure. But you'll have to pry that million dollar suburban home they bought 30 years ago in Boulder from their cold, dead, patchouli soaked hands.

      3. JohnZ   10 months ago

        When I saw the name Gallagher, I envisioned Gallagher the comedian with smashed pies and cakes oh wait a minute.....
        "Think of how stupid California Democrats are, and then deviate that collective intelligence down by a factor of 10. That’s the level of stupidity of Colorado Democrats."
        And some of them are stupider than that.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          And some of them are stupider than that.

          Yeah, just walk around LoDo on a weekend and you'll see that in action.

  10. HorseConch   10 months ago

    Did something happen on the internets last night? I was going about my business on Mastodon, and it seemed incredible as usual.

    1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

      People mock Mastadon because of progressive grandstanding over X, but it's probably the most uncensorable platform on the internet because it has no central control. If Musk ever loses that'll probably one of the last places for free speech available.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        It is uncensored because nobody really uses it. Same with minds.com

        1. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

          Loads of people use it. Just not X, Instagram or Facebook tier.

          It’s uncensored because it’s so diffuse and it can’t be censored or shut down. There’s no one to contact and you can’t call a single provider. In some aspects it’s sort of like Tor and in other ways it’s kind of like BitTorrent. That's why it's currently full of pedos, because it's hard to track and identify them.

          But people shouldn’t be dismissive, because once the establishment deals with Musk the plebs are going to need something that they can’t shut down.

          1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

            I'm dismissive because I have been trained to despise pretty much all social media by the Facebook and the Twitters and etc. I don't know whether the culture of narcissism or the creeping fakeness of algorithm and advertising created content are worse, but it's not for me.

            It's all so completely awful and virulent that the only places I participate at all are a few small, old school forums for specialty hobbies.

            Well, and here, but that's because it's mostly anonymous (though Hank said he was going to dox me once) and nobody censors me if I say Pigfucker in front of Jesus.

    2. R Mac   10 months ago

      Did ENB have anything interesting to say?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    The question we are presented with is whether we're willing to allow a billionaire oligarch to camp off the UK coastline and take potshots at our society...

    How did such thin-skinned wankers ever hold an empire.

    1. Randy Sax   10 months ago

      Gang rape and stabbing ok though....

      1. Social Justice is neither   10 months ago

        And they're the ones proclaiming they care about women (that they cannot define).

      2. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

        Just don't say mean things about rapists or stabbers, might land you in jail.

      3. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

        Well at least they’re still proud to be “subjects”

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   10 months ago

      Epidermis change?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      That was before women were allowed to vote.

    4. mad.casual   10 months ago

      Newsflash Daisie, your little ssland has been increasingly off of everyone else’s coastline for almost two centuries. Even your own royalty is “It’s a nice place to visit…”

    5. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Musk should reply with the special delivery of a SpaceX rocket to the noggin'.

    6. JohnZ   10 months ago

      George Orwell could be considered a prophet. Britain is becoming that which he warned against.

    7. Mother's Lament   10 months ago

      How did such thin-skinned wankers ever hold an empire.

      All the cancer currently affecting the UK originated in American universities. Your left coasts are the source.

  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    '"Any sort of stopping that, or stopping the spread of that or sort of intervening in that?" a reporter from The Washington Post asked White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre'

    Good god, have these snowflakes gone full retard nanny state? Do they really want Big Nanny to manage their lives, provide for all their needs, and protect them from ogres?

    1. Mike Parsons   10 months ago

      "Good god, have these snowflakes gone full retard nanny state? Do they really want Big Nanny to manage..."

      Yes. COVID solidified that good and hard.

    2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Yes. They are weak minded.

    3. Idaho-Bob   10 months ago

      Yes. To all of it.

      Worse, they demand the rest of us follow suit.

    4. Stupid Government Tricks   10 months ago

      Yes they do, because they are the cheerleaders and expect to be well-rewarded for it.

      It never occurs to them to see themselves out of power.

    5. Nobartium   10 months ago

      I've said it before, just enforce Citizens United super strictly.

      Any and all speech a corporation does is subject to the personal limit. So even the expense of getting into the white house factors in.

    6. damikesc   10 months ago

      This is one of those cases where you wish somebody in the press corps (of course, nobody did) asks "Why the fuck are you LOOKING to censor us?"

    7. sarcasmic   10 months ago

      Good thing Trump never tried to shut down posts on Twitter.....

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

        So you're saying it's ok, because Republicans did it first?

        1. R Mac   10 months ago

          Hypocrisy is a sarcasmic superpower.

      2. Nobartium   10 months ago

        9/10 parody, needs more mean girl complaining.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    A judge has thrown Robert F. Kennedy Jr. off the state's ballot...

    Dumped like a bear carcass on a bike path.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      They wanted to make it look like an accident.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

        It wasn't an "accident" that he claimed residence in New York when he actually lived in California.

        That was completely intentional (but only because he's "special").

        1. R Mac   10 months ago

          Is it painful?

        2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          We were talking about the bear.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

            You were talking about the bear; I was talking about Kennedy.

            1. R Mac   10 months ago

              Yeah because you’re too fucking stupid to keep up.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                The guy who gleefully clicks on "kiddie porn here" links calls someone else stupid, lol.

            2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

              That’s not normally how conversations work, but ok.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                Are you new around here?

    2. mad.casual   10 months ago

      The brain worm using RFK Jr.'s body as a host is not a resident of the US.

      Justice... Christina Ryba... last great defender of the human race against the brain worm takeover.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    "Musk's actions should be a wake-up call for Starmer's government to quietly legislate to take back control of what we collectively agree is permissible on social media."

    Quietly.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Collectively.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Mostly peacefully.

    2. Ersatz   10 months ago

      because if you do it quietly enough you wont disturb them from their collective slumber… after all - why risk disagreement?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

        I imagine the British queuing up to riot.

  15. Mike Parsons   10 months ago

    "Just a little reminder: "The European Union's digital enforcer wrote an open letter to tech mogul Elon Musk on Monday..."

    In case it isnt on full display, the global cabal and MSM is trying to shut down hearing one presidential candidate, labeling it hate speech/misinformation ahead of time, and networks refuse to air his speeches, while actively also hiding the actual policy agenda of the other candidate, not interviewing her, and declaring you have to vote for her or else democracy is over.

    If this isn't actual fascism on full display I really dont know what is.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      But how can it be fascism when millions of people eagerly march in support?

    2. JohnZ   10 months ago

      Orwell rolls in his grave.

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      Try not to freak out, okay?

      Silence Trump? Are you kidding? His own words are his worst enemy!

      I think they should give people so much Trump they can't scream "la La LA" loud enough to drown out the incoherent babbling--now including slurring.

      1. DesigNate   10 months ago

        The fact that they don’t tells you how scared they are of him actually winning and their losing power.

  16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    'To act like this was invented by Trump is absurd, and to suggest that the White House—occupied by Trump's former opponent—has a responsibility to stop it is horrifying.'

    We need a new round of sci-fi horror movies, with allegories about insidious brain viruses or pod people replacements that turn normal people into dysfunctional hive mind child slaves. Or just a remake of that Star Trek encounter with the Borg. And we need to convince people NOT to join the Borg.

    1. Super Scary   10 months ago

      But the healthcare the Borg provide is free!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        LOL--nice one.

      2. Longtobefree   10 months ago

        Same deal with the Federation – ever see anyone pay for anything on TOS?
        They didn't even have pockets.

        1. Rex L'Amoureaux   10 months ago

          The barkeeper originally wanted to charge Uhura 6 credits for a tribble.

          1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

            Yeah? And see where that led. Late stage capitalism in a nutshell am I right?

            1. Jefferson Paul   10 months ago

              It is odd how even in TNG there was no currency. The reasoning is that almost everything could be created via the replicator. But the matter replicator still needed raw material (atoms/molecules) from which to replicate something. This in turn would need to be transported to the ships, which is a service that would need labor to do. I guess it was just Roddenbury's utopian vision of a world without need for physical things or currency.

              But then in Deep Space Nine, they introduce "gold-pressed latinum" as currency. The Ferengi were obsessed with acquiring it to become wealthy.

              So which is it, I always asked. No need for money/currency or is there a need for it in the Star Trek universe?

              1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

                I think it was three things.

                First: Military vessels don't fall under the typical realm of commerce. Since you're all essentially in the space force or their dependents, you're fed and clothed while on deployment.

                B: The Ferengi are seeking wealth because they needed interstellar trade as a reason for the space station to be a sort of melting pot of cultures, like how Casablanca was full of expats in the film -- Americans, Nazis, Vichy French, Portugese etc. Or the bar in Nepal in Raiders of the Lost Ark. Or any port city, anywhere, really, where people come and go for their own reasons, Ferengi being free traders.

                3: They probably didn't bother to think about it at all. If they did, it was later and they just did some handwaving to retroactively introduce it, or explain it, or something.

                I'm mostly going with 3. I really don't even know if my tribbles joke was good, I just remember they multiplied like mad and took over. I have no idea what actually happened to end that episode, as I think the last time I saw it was about 1980.

                1. Davy C   10 months ago

                  They got into the grain the Klingons had poisoned, and that killed many of them. The tribble seller was tasked with removing the rest from the space station, which Spock estimated would take 17.9 years. Scotty beamed the ones on the Enterprise into the Klingon ship, where they'd "be no tribble at all."

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

      They did as recently as 2016.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BrainDead

      I thought it was funny. I suspect they called for it to be cancelled when they realized it was satirizing the left even more than the right.

  17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    '"The question we are presented with is whether we're willing to allow a billionaire oligarch to camp off the UK coastline and take potshots at our society," says Daisley.'

    Hey, Daisy, now do Klaus Schwab. Oh, and fuck you both.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      And Soros.

      1. JohnZ   10 months ago

        And Bill Gates

        1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

          Except Soros and Gates live amongst us.

          So much worse.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Threatening central bank independence is among the worst economic proposals ever floated by a major-party presidential candidate.

    Agreed. Let's end the whole thing to keep him from getting it.

    1. R Mac   10 months ago

      Just like we have to destroy democracy to protect Democracy!, we need to destroy the central bank to save the central bank?

      1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

        I'm down.

        After their cause of and response to the 2008 crisis, I'm pretty firmly in the "Fed is evil" camp.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    She must have seen me as just another comrade being relocated for the movement. She had not considered my feelings because, I suspect, she had not considered her own.

    The rare socialist thinker who saw herself as a chess piece?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Bad news for her, she’s just a pawn.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Two dozen settlements were overrun.

    Yeah but their Russian border settlements. How valuable can they really be to Moscow.

  21. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    Is there a reason no mention besides DoEd of the cost cutting proposed?

    https://thepostmillennial.com/breaking-elon-musk-volunteers-to-serve-on-government-efficiency-committee-to-rein-in-wasteful-spending-if-trumps-elected?utm_campaign=64466

    This seems to be the sites primary concern.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Perhaps the most interesting part was how threatened so many people were by this conversation taking place at all.

      The threat is of liberals and dems losing control of all narratives that the jeffsarcs rely on.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        Yeah but can you imagine how entertaining those chucklefucks would be without getting talking points?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Seems pretty dumb based on their back and forth above.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   10 months ago

    Disclaimer: The Democrats' "Mind your own damn business" rhetoric applies to abortion only.

    They know their audience.

    1. Jerry B.   10 months ago

      Just like "My body, my choice" only applies to abortion, not drugs, sex work, selling a kidney, etc.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        Er, vaccines?

    2. mad.casual   10 months ago

      They know their audience.

      Well, yeah. Otherwise, abortion would involve ending a father’s business as well as any future ventures of the three of you might participate in and you couldn’t just pretend you participated in an act that magically induced human reproductive cancer in your own uterus, blame everyone else for it, and make them pay for the 'cure'.

    3. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Tim "Covid Hotline, I'd turn in Anne Frank to the Nazis" Walz?

      Fuck him.

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    'Perhaps the most interesting part was how threatened so many people were by this conversation taking place at all.'

    No, the most interesting thing is how many pandered, protected people feel existentially threatened by every single life challenge and contrary idea, and demand government intervention in exchange for obedience.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      True story: elite families now hire mental health coaches to help their teens and 20-year olds deal with devastating challenges, like actually talking on the phone with another person and physically going out in public.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    So I've noticed a few new themes, that seem to quite merit "Really you're going to go there?"

    Kamala swooping up Trump's no taxes on tips, for example, is another recent example of the Celebration Paradox. A few weeks ago, Tax Policy Center, SEIU chairman, and many others rushed to issue statements about how this was a bad idea. Harris touts it as a policy, and a complete 180.

    And then there's things like this, after 4 years of saying how Biden was so sharp and had absolutely no issues with cognition...

    Mike Rothschild, who describes himself as a "conspiracy theory journalist and expert" on X and who has made appearances on MSNBC, CNN and PBS News, wrote on X early Saturday morning, "So the helicopter story was real, Trump just got every detail of it wrong other than it involved a helicopter and a Black politician. Maybe we shouldn't give him the nuclear codes again?"

    When MSNBC's Morning Joe reported on the Times' story, the newscasters laughed at the fact that Trump could confuse Jerry Brown, a white man, with Willie Brown, a Black man.

    Christopher Webb, a self-proclaimed Democrat, according to his X profile, shared a clip of the Morning Joe segment and wrote on X on Friday morning, "Was it a lie or cognitive failure?"

    1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      And in the same vein, after "old man" Biden spent the whole campaign in his basement and Harris is doing cookie cutter stumps in safe places, Salon tosses this one out:

      Republicans can't replace their old man nominee, so they're pretending JD Vance is the GOP candidate

      "What a stupid question this is!" Donald Trump recently raged at a journalist during a lengthy public meltdown that was billed as a "press conference." The reporter had correctly noted, "You have not had a public campaign event for nearly a week now." This factual observation set Trump off on a diatribe full of lies. "I’m leading by a lot," he insisted. "I am campaigning a lot," he pushed back. In reality, Vice President Kamala Harris is up two points over the former president in national polling. And while she's been hitting the road, even holding multiple rallies in a day, Trump has mostly been hiding out at Mar-a-Lago, only doing one campaign event in the last week in the MAGA-safe space of Montana. As Philip Bump at the Washington Post showed in a recent analysis, "Trump is holding far fewer rallies" and public appearances than he did in both 2016 and 2020.

      1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

        Maybe he's concerned about getting shot at again.

        1. Zeb   10 months ago

          Could be. Is it really a surprise that someone who just almost got murdered (due to a massive security fuckup) might be a bit more wary about appearing in public than he was before?

          1. R Mac   10 months ago

            (due to a massive security fuckup)

            Generous.

            1. HorseConch   10 months ago

              Not only that, the massive security fuckup is beyond his control.

          2. Rex L'Amoureaux   10 months ago

            Massive security fuckyou

        2. A Thinking Mind   10 months ago

          Did someone shoot at him? When and where did this happen?

          1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            There were some popping noises and the secret service pulled him off the stage after his shoes fell off.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

              Pretty sure he just fell down when a teleprompter cracked.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

                Senile old man.

          2. R Mac   10 months ago

            Well I heard Iran wanted to assassinate him, but the wonderful IC caught the guy and saved his life, so we can just move on.

        3. mad.casual   10 months ago

          The whole thing feels like a retarded non-sequitur that my teen would issue sarcastically.

          "Biden hid in his bunker for the entire campaign so why aren't you campaigning twice as hard in non-MAGA-safe spaces as heels up Harris tweets about empty tarmacs, huh, old man?!"

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   10 months ago

      Kamala swooping up Trump’s no taxes on tips, for example, is another recent example of the Celebration Paradox. A few weeks ago, Tax Policy Center, SEIU chairman, and many others rushed to issue statements about how this was a bad idea. Harris touts it as a policy, and a complete 180.

      Who is doing "a complete 180"? Partisan hacks? Sure. But I just checked the Tax Policy Center and they noted that KamKam now supports Trump's proposal, but they haven't said anything one way or another about changing their position.

      Here is Vox (they are lefties, right?) saying that it's still a bad idea even if both teams now support it.

      https://www.vox.com/policy/366680/no-tax-on-tips-trump-harris-subminimum-wage

      So sure if the Tax Policy Center is now going to start defending the same policy that they criticized when it was Trump offering it, then go ahead and accuse them of hypocritical hackery. But that isn't happening.

      But it is also important to understand that reality is rarely so simple as narratives present it as being. So sure, a statement like "lefties defend the same policy coming from Harris that they denounced when it came from Trump" sounds great because it completely comports with your sense of how lefties are just generally terrible people. But, typically, it is either (a) not true, or (b) only true on a purely superficial level and if you dig into the details you see differences and nuances emerge. But most people don't have time for nuance, they want a simplistic narrative that delivers a message that is easily understandable by partisans. That is why memes work even though they are awful in terms of conveying truthful information.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        Lmao.

      2. Dillinger   10 months ago

        lol K stops taxing the servers & raises taxes on the businesses. T stops taxing the servers.

      3. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

        How long before VP Kam Kam does an interview, or deigns to answer questions from the press? Only 22 days and counting, thusfar.

  25. Mickey Rat   10 months ago

    The EU technocrats and the European politicians in general are cowards of the highest degree. They would rather ignore the problems that they have caused in their jurisdictions than speak about them honestly, because that might stir up some anger in the people that they hold in disdain.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Can you be a coward and a totalitarian at the same time?

      1. Mickey Rat   10 months ago

        Yes, bullies are often cowards compensating.

      2. Dillinger   10 months ago

        aren't they all?

  26. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    'A judge has thrown Robert F. Kennedy Jr. off the state's ballot, so you will—at least as of right now—no longer be able to vote for him if you live here.'

    Democracy wins again!

  27. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    "Trump as de facto Fed Chair is a dangerous idea," writes Jonathan Levin at Bloomberg. "Threatening central bank independence is among the worst economic proposals ever floated by a major-party presidential candidate."

    5 out of 5 jeffsarcs and shrikes agree.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

      among the worst economic proposals ever floated by a major-party presidential candidate.”

      Donnie only floats the worst.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        Thanks for confirming!

      2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

        And here I thought it was you floating, turd

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      I don’t think Trump’s looking at things from this perspective I’m going to lay out here, but ultimately, the Fed is hardly an independent entity. That’s a convenient fiction which covers over the reality that the Fed chair is just as much of a political creature as any Cabinet member, subject to all kinds of incentives and pressures to manipulate interest rates to benefit the party in the Oval Office. Volker sending rates into the stratosphere was a rare exception only in that even Reagan recognized it was the only way to get inflation under control, and was willing to take the short-term political hit to keep them in place.

      Seriously, anyone thinking rates are bad now never lived through the late 70s-early 80s when they were in the double digits.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

        You do realize that the current Fed Chair, Jerome Powell, was first appointed by Donald Trump in 2017, right? And re-appointed by Joe Biden in 2021. The same guy is, "just as much of a political creature as any Cabinet member, subject to all kinds of incentives and pressures to manipulate interest rates to benefit the party in the Oval Office"?

        I doubt he did a complete 180 when a different President re-appointed him. I mean, he's no JD Vance...

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          I doubt he did a complete 180 when a different President re-appointed him.

          What part of "political creature" confuses you. Show us on the doll.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          You do realize that the current Fed Chair, Jerome Powell, was first appointed by Donald Trump in 2017, right? And re-appointed by Joe Biden in 2021. The same guy is, “just as much of a political creature as any Cabinet member, subject to all kinds of incentives and pressures to manipulate interest rates to benefit the party in the Oval Office”?

          Volcker worked for both Carter and Reagan. What's your point, other than that stupid attempt at handwaving you tried there?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

            Trump is obviously not complaining about the Fed Chair being too compliant.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

              Which still doesn't refute a single thing I said.

              1. R Mac   10 months ago

                The poor thing’s really struggling.

              2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                Don't take this the wrong way, tough guy, but I care more about what Trump says than what you say.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                  Oh. So you think Trump is communicating directly with you?

                  Because RRWP is communicating directly with you and yet you just dissemble, deflect and distract. It's almost as if you want to be able to say whatever you want and never be called out on your fabrications.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                  LOL, please. Remember how ass-blasted you got when I said your glowie buddies like Brennan needed to have their heads removed from their bodies with a rusty hacksaw?

                  1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                    Sorry, no. Who is Brennan? And you think I work for the CIA? Lol...

      2. Stuck in California   10 months ago

        Problem isn't that interest rates are historically high. It's that they're high compared to what came before.

        So, in short, the problem is the near zero rates for the preceding two decades and all the asset inflation they caused. They reset the interest bar so low the Fed had no room to adjust them, they inflated asset valuation so high that even a historically not-too-high rate causes massive pain to normal folks like mortgage borrowers.

  28. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    'reflecting on being abandoned by her mother, who pursued Socialist activism instead of parenthood'

    Hmm, what is more woke, having an abortion or popping out the mini-oppressor so you can abandon it and spend more time on The Struggle?

  29. R Mac   10 months ago

    Surprised she didn’t share her own post, but poor Lying Jeffy, Liz really destroyed his freak out bullshit about Trump lying yesterday:

    Aren't political campaigns always about spin, partial truths, telling voters things that sound good but bear questionable resemblance to reality? Let's not act like this is some uniquely threatening format. Nontraditional media threatens the Old Guard who wants to gatekeep.

    https://x.com/LizWolfeReason/status/1823345936149438664

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Don’t fret too much, Jeffy will be here with a new set of lies and a new freak out soon enough.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        And his lapdog sarc will be there to defend every lie told.

    2. Mickey Rat   10 months ago

      If you are going by friendly interviews being invalid, any interview of a Democrat by, say, George Stephanopoulos should be equally suspect. There is a rather incestuous relationship between professional journalists/talking heads and the political class that is not usually examined very closely.

  30. R Mac   10 months ago

    (that is, if you haven't been paying attention to the journalism-industry meltdown over Trump that's been going on since he announced his candidacy in 2015).

    Yes, Liz, we’re all aware of Jacob Sullum.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      And ENB.

      1. Dillinger   10 months ago

        I demand White Mike! lol

        1. Mike Liarson   10 months ago

          I really don’t see how you could characterize anything Elizabeth Nolan Brown reported about Trump as a “meltdown”. Would you care to provide an example?

          1. Dillinger   10 months ago

            perfect thank you.

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

            Excellent. Now, post nothing but "Traitors!" for two weeks.

  31. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

    'Disclaimer: The Democrats' "Mind your own damn business" rhetoric applies to abortion only.

    'Not your money, job, business, school choices, covid "snitch lines," energy usage, DEI-compliance, guns, "hate speech," etc.

    'Then suddenly "government is what we do together."'

    Shorter version, seen on vintage bumper stickers:
    Democrats: Regulate everything except abortion.
    Republicans: Regulate nothing except abortion.

    1. mad.casual   10 months ago

      Again, if there were only one event in everyone's life that was literally not "their own damned business" it would be their birth. If we ignore biology or expand the number to two, it becomes (birth and) incorporation, co-signing of loans, power of attorney, etc., etc., etc.

      The idea that abortion should be completely unregulated is abjectly, insanely retarded nihilism masquerading as helping people. Far moreso than speech or firearms ownership or education... all of which are far, far more regulated and regimented (whether they should be or not).

  32. Randy Sax   10 months ago

    Live-caption glasses help deaf people to follow conversations as they’re happening.

    Not exactly what this post is about, but I despise the whole idea of the “deaf community”.

    From https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6913847/

    For these critics, deafness is not defined by the lack of ability to hear, but rather, by a distinct cultural identity of which they are proud. They believe the word “deaf ” with a lowercase “d” refers to “the audiologic lack of hearing,” while the word “Deaf ” with an uppercase “D” refers to a cultural identity…
    …According to the NAD, “Deaf people like being Deaf, want to be Deaf, and are proud of their Deafness”.

    You have a medical disability, if you chose not to treat it (if you are eligible for cochlear or other) that’s fine. But, for love the love of fucking God do not discourage others from seeking treatment. Statements like “you don’t need to be fixed” are straight up abusive.

    1. Zeb   10 months ago

      Militant Deaf-ists are nuts. I've even heard of deaf couples who want their children to be deaf.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        So, non-hearing affirming surgery?

        1. HorseConch   10 months ago

          If they can hear, how can they try and weasel out of being drunk while running 96 in a 55?

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

        What if therapy doesn't work??? So you're in favor of suicide then!?

        /jeff

        1. Zeb   10 months ago

          Yeah. For the parents.

  33. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

    "...Meanwhile, The Guardian reports that Bruce Daisley, Twitter's former vice-president for Europe, the Middle East and Africa, has said Musk should face "personal sanctions"—which are "much more effective on executives than the risk of corporate fines"—and even, possibly, an "arrest warrant" if he "continue[s] stirring up unrest" on the platform..."

    But, we are told it is Trump who is a danger to democracy.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      What the fuck is wrong with these people ?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

        How long do you have?

        1. R Mac   10 months ago

          Someone should start a newsletter.

          1. Dillinger   10 months ago

            they could do a “hey this is what the NYT says” column every morning

  34. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Wonder if any of the commenters here were on the call?

    -------------------------

    Pro tip: When medically mutilating your young son, you should consider actually allowing him to undergo puberty beforehand, thereby letting his penis grow to a sufficient length, long enough so that the surgeons have ample material to work with when it's ultimately inverted into a neo-vagina. You see, the surgically constructed cavity ought to be of optimal depth, cavernous for coitus.

    Those were the words, in essence, of Dr. Rebecca Wood Persky, a pediatric endocrinologist at Children's National Hospital and the medical director of "Gender Care Services" there.

    "Trans girls might have a change in their bottom-surgery option, if they choose to do bottom surgery, from being on puberty blockers," she said, specifically. Of course, by "trans girls," she means biological boys, and "bottom surgery" is a euphemistic expression for genital disfigurement.

    Via penile-inversion vaginoplasty, Persky explained nonchalantly, the skin of the penis creates the vaginal canal, and the scrotum, after the testicles are taken out, becomes the labia majora.

    "But that requires enough tissue there to make the vagina — to make a vagina with enough depth for sexual intercourse," Persky cautioned.

    "And so," she continued, "if kids — or adolescents — are starting on puberty blockers at the very early stages of puberty and really not having penile growth or testicular growth or scrotal growth, then these options change, and you might have to do a more invasive option than the inversion vaginoplasty, which would have some more recovery time or complications. So that's just an important thing to understand when making these decisions about timing and whether or not to start puberty blockers."

    Listening intently to Persky's medical guidance were parents of "transgender" children, tuning in virtually from various quarters around the DMV area, predominantly D.C. They — and I, joining via the publicly posted link — were attending a workshop on "Gender-Affirming Puberty," presented by the Sexual Minority Youth Assistance League (SMYAL), a federally funded non-profit nestled on the outskirts of Capitol Hill.

    Most of the caregivers, gathered over Zoom to learn about "navigating puberty" and exploring "gender-related care approaches," have enrolled their children in Little SMYALs, the organization's LGBTQ after-school program for kids in kindergarten through eighth grade. As Townhall's initial exposé uncovered in disturbing detail, Little SMYALs conditions these children (ages six to 13) to identify as "transgender" — or, at least, induces a state of gender dysphoria — and coaches them through "transitioning" socially. This socialization process, which Little SMYALs ushers along within a matter of weeks, entails adopting a new name, using pronouns of the opposite sex, changing their clothes, cutting or growing out their hair, and even "coming out" in the classroom, all to assume this newfound "gender identity."

    https://townhall.com/tipsheet/miacathell/2024/08/06/smyal-workshop-n2642852

    1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

      Well, that's horrifying.

    2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Nothing better than a dry “vagina”. Essentially fucking a dick.

      1. Eeyore   10 months ago

        The latest trend is zero depth vagaina. Essentially they make the scrotum look like a butchered set of labia that leads nowhere. They just cut off the dick, or try to make it even smaller into a clit of some kind, but it frequently becomes a non-functional clit.

    3. Pepin the short   10 months ago

      Jesus Christ…..

      There is absolutely no way anyone sane could handwave this away.

      These people should be pilloried in the town square and made pariahs.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      That’s basically what happened to Jaron Bloshinsky, aka Jazz Jennings. Mommy Dearest put him on puberty blockers and it gave him a micropeen that couldn’t be shoved his pubic cavity far enough to mimic a pussy. That’s why he’s got a frankenvag axe wound that’s going to make him miserable for the rest of his life.

      His troon butcher-surgeon, "Marci" Bowers, also confirmed that he can't orgasm because the puberty blockers fucked up his physiology. He's basically a eunuch that was promoted as a stunning and brave example of what every kid should aspire to be.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

        Society has reverted to castration as a form of control over the sexual desires of young males. How can we have fallen so far so fast?

    5. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Dr. Rebecca, can you help me out? My kid wants to be a dolphin. When should I start him on cetacean hormones and limb-removal surgery?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

        Removal? They are going to surgically fuse those legs together and attach the hand to the shoulder. The tracheotomy on the back of the neck is trickier. Trans-cetaceans have no muscles to control a blow hole. Doctors usually just recommend going "mermaid" rather than full dolphin for that reason.

    6. mad.casual   10 months ago

      genital disfigurement

      Genital destruction.

      If I take a 8,000 or even 2,500 sq. ft. home, tear it down, use the pieces to provide you 750 sq. ft. "warehouse", I haven't disfigured a mansion or built a disfigured warehouse, I've destroyed a functional building and placed a superficial marker in its place.

      And this is *still* being exceedingly, generously, objective about the whole affair.

      1. Stuck in California   10 months ago

        8000 square feet, eh?

        Someone's mighty confident. Good for you, man.

  35. Zeb   10 months ago

    We need to prevent a popular candidate from being heard in mass media. To save democracy. Seems legit.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      Who? Trump?

      Everyone should absolutely hear him speak. The more people who learn what he believes about the "Revolutionary Airports" the better!

      (Of course, this does require the recipients of the message to understand approximately when "airports" were invented, which is not necessarily going to be everyone currently inhabiting MAGAworld.)

      Or better, what Trump believes about magnets. When you're trying to "wax lyrical" about the Revolutionary spirit, and "ramming the ramparts" (whatever that means), it's easy to get carried away, perhaps. But there is no ambiguity or excuse for Trump's ignorance about magnets. Utterly none.

      1. Zeb   10 months ago

        Yeah, if voters are so retarded that being exposed to people saying untrue or dumb things will break democracy, then it's already hopeless. Still, I'd rather someone ignorant about magnets to someone who thinks a massive spending bill is the way to tackle inflation. (not that I think Trump is good on spending, but what a candidate thinks about magnets is very low on my list of things to worry about)

  36. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Entitled celebrities...

    "Stephen Curry's family faced harassment and poor treatment from the French police. His wife Ayesha and mother Sonya were stopped by the French police from entering a certain part of the city, as there was a heavy police detail as the French president made his way to the closing ceremony. Ayesha was seen wiping away tears, and Sonya was clearly agitated, with Draymond Green intervening to explain the situation.

    The media was quick to take sides too...

    "This is a really bad look for the French police. While no one is advocating for any kind of special treatment for the Currys, their requests were not outlandish, as they were just trying to make their way out of the city. Furthermore, Ayesha was carrying her and Stephen's newborn son, and was worried about his safety, causing her emotional reaction.

    "It is a good thing Draymond Green, and another unnamed man, presumably their translator, were there to help them, as they were struggling to communicate with the French police. But regardless of the language barrier, the French police should have shown more sympathy to them and helped escort them to where they needed to go.

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/ayesha-and-sonya-curry-left-furious-and-emotional-after-being-harassed-by-french-police/ar-AA1oCYJx

    1. Chipper Chunked Chile Con Congress (ex NCW)   10 months ago

      Who?

    2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      French police should have shown more sympathy to them and helped escort them to where they needed to go.

      I can tell you where they need to go.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Draymond Green trying to play peacemaker is the funniest part of that whole story.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

        He got a technical from the police.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

          And a 60-day suspension from France.

          1. R Mac   10 months ago

            He’s lucky he didn’t get more than that after kicking the officer in the nuts.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

              Let's not even get into the chokehold.

              1. Kungpowderfinger   10 months ago

                You can always count on Draymond to stomp on injustice.

                1. R Mac   10 months ago

                  Then again Steph’s lucky he didn’t punch him in the face, being teammates and all.

    4. R Mac   10 months ago

      I love basketball, and after the international growth has caught up and increased parody by increasing the number of great players, the NBA is pretty fun to watch again. But a lot of the great players are complete and utter douche bags.

  37. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Democrats protecting democracy via coup.

    But what happened was, a number of my Democratic colleagues in the House and the Senate thought that I was gonna hurt them in their races,” he continued. “And I was concerned if I stayed in the race, that would be the topic. You’d be interviewing me about why did Nancy Pelosi say, why did so and so… and I thought it’d be a real distraction.”

    Democratic California Rep. Adam Schiff and Democratic Maryland Rep. Jaime Raskin — known Pelosi allies — publicly called for Biden to step aside days before the president made his decision. Despite these ties, Pelosi remained consistent when interviewed for CBS News’s “60 Minutes,” insisting that she “did not call one person” relating to Biden dropping out.

    https://x.com/CollinRugg/status/1822628391360835825

    The statement coincides with what journalist Seymour Hersh suggested when he reported that Barack Obama threatened Biden with the 25th Amendment, saying he had "Kamala's approval" to force him out of the race.

    Hersh said Obama was "deeply involved" with the alleged coup and called Biden after his "incident" in Las Vegas.

    "I went over [reports] this week with a senior official in Washington who helped me fashion an account of a White House in complete disarray," Hersh said.

    "Obama called Biden after breakfast [on July 20] and said, 'Here’s the deal. We have Kamala’s approval to invoke the 25th Amendment,'" a senior Washington official told Hersh.

    Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, and Hakeem Jeffries were reportedly directly involved.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      Hersh was on the ballot in how many states?

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      Despite these ties, Pelosi remained consistent when interviewed for CBS News’s “60 Minutes,” insisting that she “did not call one person” relating to Biden dropping out.

      LOL, well, technically that wasn't a lie, as she called more than one person.

      Also, as I pointed out yesterday by citing that article from Tablet, calling this a coup mistakes how the Regime works these days. The entities that made sure Biden became President by any means necessary are the same ones that removed him when they could no longer maintain the fiction that he was fully in charge and full of vim and vigor.

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        But I’ve been assured there is no deep state.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          It's not so deep any more.

  38. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

    "Harris hauls in $12 million at San Francisco fundraiser as Pelosi welcomes vice president home"
    [...]
    "Tickets for the event ranged from $3,300 to get in the door all the way up to $500,000, according to an invitation obtained by Fox News..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/harris-hauls-in-12-million-at-san-francisco-fundraiser-as-pelosi-welcomes-vice-president-home/ar-AA1oDijv?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Workingman's friend right there.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Old Democrats: get big money out of politics!

      New Democrats: what can we do for billionaires?

  39. Alan Vanneman   10 months ago

    "Reason" provides "balanced" journalism, balancing the banalities of the mainstream with the banalities of Liz Wolfe. Oy vey, oy vey, oy vey.

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      The steaming pile of shit Vanneman provides nothing at all.
      FOAD, asshole.

  40. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

    Perhaps the most interesting part was how threatened so many people were by this conversation taking place at all.

    @LizWolfe...Not interesting, terrifying.

    We are losing our 1A protections.

    1. Zeb   10 months ago

      It is inteed terrifyingly fucked up to see the continued attempts to keep people from hearing Trump speak unedited. And they are quite open about it. It's still a damn good thing we have the 1st amendment, but I get more and more worried that we won't have it for long if people continue to move away from valuing free speech.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Because he fucking lies nonstop.

        My office is on Bloomberg TV nonstop. They cut him off and cite his lies as the reason.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Lol. Explains so fucking much.

        2. Zeb   10 months ago

          They all lie non-stop. Still doesn't make it a good move for the news to try to black out a major candidate.

        3. R Mac   10 months ago

          Speaking of lying, turd lies. He was also banned for posting a link to kiddie porn.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

            Which you apparently clicked on, thus downloading "kiddie porn" to your own computer. Well done!

            1. R Mac   10 months ago

              You’re apparently too stupid to know what’s going on here.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                Lol, says the guy who publicly brags about clicking on "kiddie porn" links--for "research purposes", no doubt.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                  Yeah, because Reason banned his account because they were really cat pics.

                  Anyway, thanks for defending your fellow hicklib pederast.

                  1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                    It was either links to kiddie porn or it wasn't, tough guy. If the former, R Mac and several others have publicly admitted clicking on it and committing a felony in the process. If the latter, it's just more bullying and lying on the part of you and the other mean girls.

                    1. R Mac   10 months ago

                      Ok shrike.

                    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                      It was either links to kiddie porn or it wasn’t, tough guy.

                      So you're saying he got his account banned for posting links to cat pics, hicklib pederast?

                      If the former, R Mac and several others have publicly admitted clicking on it and committing a felony in the process.

                      So you're saying your fellow hicklib pederast needs to be tossed in prison for trafficking kiddie porn that got his account banned?

                      If the latter, it’s just more bullying and lying on the part of you and the other mean girls.

                      So you're saying your fellow hicklib pederast didn't actually get his account banned? Why is there a 2 on the end of it, then?

                    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      Assuming the comic book evidence of Reason banning someone is proof of the allegation as stated, absolutely, Shrike and every single one of you who have admitted clicking on the links he posted should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

                      Why is that so hard to understand?

                    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

                      Assuming the comic book evidence of Reason banning someone is proof of the allegation as stated,

                      Nice try. Some of us read the thread. And it wasn't just the post with the link that got removed. It was the entire thread and every other post by that account.

                      I am now going to assume that you are SPB trying to rewrite history to make you not the villain. I hope you end up in a horrific single car accident that causes your dick to get ripped off and that you die months later from infected bedsores because nobody wants to touch you after they find out what you have done.

                    5. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      I read the "evidence", too. It amounted to, "Look what isn't there! Irrefutable proof of [whatever the fuck I choose to believe]!"

                      The irrefutable fact is that SPB2 is still here. Which most likely means that none of you upstanding citizens bothered to notify the authorities (whining to Reason doesn't count) or preserve the "evidence" you claim/deny seeing with your own eyes. Pathetic!

                      If he did what you say he did, according to the law, he belongs in prison. And so does everyone else who claims to have clicked on the "illegal" content. (That's you, sunshine.)

                  2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago
                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                      That's the smartest thing you've posted in this whole thread.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

                      Best damn thing you've ever said.

                    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      Lol, I've got you nonces responding (in chorus) to literally nothing...

                2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

                  "You’re apparently too stupid to know what’s going on here."

                  This steaming pile of shit is too stupid to tie his own shoes.
                  ONS, please make the world a better place: FOAD, asshole.

                  1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                    I haven't heard a "shoe tying" insult since, gosh, primary school?

                    I'm probably gonna need a few weeks of counseling to recover from that devastating onslaught, Scato...

                3. R Mac   10 months ago

                  Apparently you’re also too stupid to realize my response indicates I didn’t click the link.

                  Do you think being retarded on purpose is an effective strategy for trolling?

                4. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Just to be clear, R Mac: Are you now claiming you didn’t click on the “kiddie porn” link?

                  (Probably a wise move, but maybe a little late.)

                  1. DesigNate   10 months ago

                    You know clicking on links doesn’t just download porn to your computer right?

                    That he literally said he could link to a dark web page and then proved it?

                    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      It sure does if it's actually a "link to kiddie porn". What do you think happens when you click on a hyperlink using a browser? Jesus Fucking Christ.

                      "That he literally said he could link to a dark web page and then proved it?"

                      Is that what he said...You presumably have a screenshot? Because Overt seems to have omitted that particular claim from his oft-repeated allegation against Shrike. Which was, for your reference, simply that he "posted kiddy porn to this site".

                      After I started questioning how anyone could possibly have done that (given the limitations of the Reason comment board interface), you ace pediatrician spotters decided what Overt really meant was that SPB had posted "links to kiddie porn" to this site.

                      And after I questioned that (by pointing out how hyperlinks work...), now your story is that SPB actually posted links to a location on the dark web which supposedly contained "kiddy porn". But you don't know for sure, because you never clicked on the link and you don't have a browser for the dark web anyway.

                      Yeah, thanks for clearing that up.

        4. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

          They cut him off and cite his lies as the reason.

          It’s for your own protection. Trust us, we know what we are doing.

        5. Mickey Rat   10 months ago

          As if Trump is unique in lying in the political world. If "lies nonstop" was a criteria for letting a politician from communicating freely, we would never hear from any of them.

        6. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

          1A gives him that right = to lie incessantly like any other weasel politician. 1A protects hate speech, protects political speech.

          You sure you want the government censoring politicians running for office? The voters make the decision.

          1. Ersatz   10 months ago

            Pretty sure they do not want the govt censoring polititians running for office... not all of them anyways. Just a certain one.

        7. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

          Cardboard boxes get Bloomberg tv?

          1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

            He can see it through the window at the appliance store.

        8. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

          Projecting much, Turd? You lie all the time here.

      2. mad.casual   10 months ago

        It is inteed terrifyingly fucked up to see the continued attempts to keep people from hearing Trump speak unedited. And they are quite open about it.

        And, akin to Jordan Peterson, otherwise relatively non-controversially. That is, for all the “Bomb Mexico”, “Bomb Ukraine”, “Bomb Russia”, “Bomb Palestine”, “Bomb Iran”, “Bomb Israel” swirling around Trump, Europe, and the World, Trump is astoundingly “We can get along with most everybody, even Russia.”

        Again, like Jordan Peterson, if they hadn’t reacted to him in the slightest, history would’ve recorded him as just another TV personality cum President who just happened to occupy the office during a pandemic. Instead, historians a thousand years in the future sifting through the rubble will cite him as the turning point or fulcrum in the fall of the Republic.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          It was apparent in the 2016 primaries that Ds were crossing over in droves to vote for Trump. They thought it was funny and that they were sabotaging the Rs. When he won, the embedded bureaucrats immediately moved to hamstring him by taking out the few people he had who understood how they worked. The FBI's takedown of Flynn signaled, "Fuck with us and we will destroy your entire family."

          It is amazing thing that Trump got anything done at all.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

      The biggest concern here is that the EU is rapidly demonstrating that they aren't worth defending anymore. If they're intent on pissing on their culture and people due to the demands of their marxist, Molochian cult of self-mortification, and are intent on throwing anyone in prison for even speaking out against it, then let them burn, and I mean that quite literally.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        Seriously. It's time to stop pretending that the Eu is made up of liberal democracies. They are individually and collectively authoritarian regimes. You're more likely to be prosecuted for wrongthink in the UK than you are in Russia. They are committing suicide and too many of our masters want to follow them. And a Harris/Walz Regime is the perfect vehicle. Fuck Europe. and Fuck Canada, Australia and New Zealand while I'm at it.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          Uh, you seriously don't think it's likely you would get prosecuted for "wrong speech" in Russia? Dozens of prominent Putin opponents have been prosecuted and imprisoned simply for referring to the Ukraine War as a "war" (although not Putin himself, when he slipped up once!). As of December 2022, CS Monitor put the total prosecutions at over 4,000--no doubt that figure is much higher by now.

          Feel free to supply the corresponding figure for "wrongthink" prosecutions within the EU Member States (and no fair counting Hungary, lol).

          https://www.csmonitor.com/World/Europe/2022/1205/In-Russia-critiquing-the-Ukraine-war-could-land-you-in-prison

          1. Zeb   10 months ago

            No one is saying Russia is a grand bastion of free speech. It does seem, at the moment, that as a regular nobody you are more likely to be imprisoned for speech in the UK than in Russia. Maybe it's more like an even race, I don't know. It's still pretty fucking awful when a once reasonably free country is in the same kind of place as fucking Russia when it comes to free expression.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

              Maybe you're right...

              How many "free speech" imprisonings have occurred in the UK over a comparable period?

              No stats, just your "feelz"? Good enuf!

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                Thanks for admitting that the UK is just as bad as Russia.

                Fuckin' LOL, talk about an own-goal.

                1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Lol, try to keep up.

                  1. R Mac   10 months ago

                    So bad at this shrike.

                  2. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                    Lol, take your own advice.

              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

                FOAD, asshole; make the world a better place.

              3. Zeb   10 months ago

                I don’t have numbers to hand, which is why I didn’t declare UK better than Russia with certainty. But it is definitely happening in the UK, and their politicians and police are openly saying that that is what they are doing. So it’s the same ballpark.
                That’s not to say they are equivalent in every way. I think I’d still rather be a regular guy in the UK than a high profile member of the political opposition in Russia.
                And FFS, if the UK is even 1/10 as bad as Russia, that's pretty bad for a place that once claimed to have a tradition of free speech.

                1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Yes, there have been some recent speech-threatening developments, and some calls for further action, in the UK, but this is nowhere near the scale of what is happening in Russia right now.

                  Nowhere on Earth has the free speech protections you enjoy in the US. The UK has its "traditions" (until it jettisons them, like the "double jeopardy" rule), but it ain't got a Bill of Rights. Most other European protections are riddled with holes and amount to vigorous protection only of speech which hardly needs protection. If free speech is your thing, you need to live in the USA.

                  1. Zeb   10 months ago

                    No shit. What is your point? The UK and Russia are both imprisoning people for political speech. That's bad.

                    I'll just add that anyone who promotes both punishing political speech and cries about threats to democracy is an evil hypocrite. You can't claim to be implementing the will of the people if you refuse to listen to what the people have to say.

                    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      “It does seem, at the moment, that as a regular nobody you are more likely to be imprisoned for speech in the UK than in Russia.”

                      My point is that there’s no evidence for making such a claim, as you have done (and GiGi has done even more ludicrously, above). I gave you evidence that thousands of “ordinary people” have been prosecuted in Russia since Russia invaded Ukraine, and your response was to refer to some recent statements in the UK (which are troubling, but are just statements at this point).

                      I believe in the relatively absolutist version of free speech as (still) protected in the USA.

                  2. DesigNate   10 months ago

                    When Russia says they will find and try to prosecute everyday American citizens for criticizing Putin, let me know.

      2. Nobartium   10 months ago

        I can't get upset that Hungary is nationalist when the EU is literally the Soviet Union 2.0.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          That's probably because you don't understand how the EU differs from the USSR.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

            Yeah, one was a communist country at one point, the other is currently aspiring to pick up the baton that the first one dropped.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

              Sure, if you say so.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                Hey, even you admitted the UK is just as bad as Russia now; it's not like the EU is any different considering their own "hate speech" laws.

                1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Who are you trying to fool, exactly?

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                    Yeah, if it's one thing your side hates, it's your dialectic being called out.

                    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      It's always projection, innit?

  41. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

    "Trump as de facto Fed Chair is a dangerous idea," writes Jonathan Levin at Bloomberg.

    It is disqualifying stupidity by the Con Man.

    Of course Fatass wants to return to zero-interest rates and heavy QE - the same policy that kicked off the inflationary cycle in 2020. And his stupid Cultist followers support his high inflation economics that they piss and moan about now.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      Excessive spending caused inflation, not low interest rates.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Excessive spending caused inflation

        Well, that is Fatass Donnie's specialty.

        But ZIRP does contribute to inflation as it overheats the economy, tariffs drive up costs, big deficits, etc.

        Donnie hits the inflation trifecta.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

        I agree. Especially excessive deficit spending.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Letting people and lenders be free to make their own decisions instead of government is truly frightening.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        They are now, you dumb fuck.

        The FOMC sets the Fed funds rate – the rate banks pay each other for overnight loans run through the Fed’s system.

        Commercial paper is 100% free market and is the most used by far over Fed loans.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

          Youre too dumb to see how your second sentence contradicts your first.

  42. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

    By the way. Those pesky Planned Parenthood tapes that were taken and held by Harris while AG as she went after Daedelin for recording PP execs in public were finally released after 8 years.

    Maybe Reason should finally do a story of government, Harris, going after this undercover journalist?

    1. R Mac   10 months ago

      HAHA! Good one.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        ^

    2. Commenter_XY   10 months ago

      Not a chance = Maybe Reason should finally do a story of government, Harris, going after this undercover journalist?

      It would be great if @LizWolfe just asked some questions about it...

  43. Brandybuck   10 months ago

    > "Threatening central bank independence is among the worst economic proposals ever floated by a major-party presidential candidate.

    I disagree 99.97% with Kamala Harris. She is vile. However, the 0.03% I agree with her on is that the Federal Reserve needs to be independent and NOT under political control.

    But Trump's stance is natural for a populist president. Populists have always yearned for inflationary policies. They are closer to AOC's MMT bullshit than any sensible free enterprise oriented economic policy.

    1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

      It would be best if the economy was independent from the fed.

      1. Quicktown Brix   10 months ago

        I agree.

        1. Ersatz   10 months ago

          hey- at least you'd know where the buck stopped!

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      "...But Trump’s stance is natural for a populist president. Populists have always yearned for inflationary policies. They are closer to AOC’s MMT bullshit than any sensible free enterprise oriented economic policy."

      brandyshit lies; it’s all he ever does. brandyshit is a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      brandyshit lies; it’s what he does. brandyshit is a lying pile of TDS-addled shit.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   10 months ago

      Yes. We must give more power to unelected bureaucrats because the people can’t be trusted.

      Hilarious you continue pushing the leftist narrative of populism bad. There is a situation in Argentina that may interest you.

  44. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

    Wrote elsewhere back when "Harris cast the tie-breaking vote to pass the Inflation Reduction Act that provided $80 billion in additional funding to the Internal Revenue Service (IRS), which then got to work cracking down on the service industry’s reporting of tips so that they could be taxed."

    So the IRS will be going after small employers who fail to “Keep [and report] a daily tip record using Form 4070A, Employee’s Daily Record of Tips” and/or fail to “Report all tips on an individual income tax return, Form 4137, Social Security and Medicare Tax on Unreported Tip Income”. Wait staff earning cash tips cheat on their taxes to the tune of about $20-30B each year, and the IRS has been unhappy with their ability to go after these people due to lack of resources. 87,000 new agents will certainly give them some new resources.

    I'm looking forward to seeing waitresses dragged from their places of employment by armed agents for failing to pay taxes on her cash tips. I hope they show on CNN the artist selling caricatures on the boardwalk for $20 cash get hauled away. Holding my breath until I can see the super-couponers who arbitrage their wares on Ebay get their doors kicked in. When the illegal aliens file their fraudulent EITC claims, I hope they are arrested and put under the jail for a few years before they get deported. When small business owners or anyone else cheat on their taxes, they cheat us all, so going after them full-bore is a positive action. If, somehow, they also manage to find some millionaires and billionaires who actually cheated on their taxes, why, that's a huge bonus too!

    The point is not that I want people to be punished for cheating on their taxes, per se, but that unless/until the smaller fish feel the pain there won't be a lot of action. I do think that people who cry about millionaires not paying their "fair share" while simultaneously cheering on people who cheat on their taxes vis-a-vis tips need a swift kick in the head.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   10 months ago

      Back when the program was enacted, Reason did the whole lamentations about low-income people being targeted, kind of ignoring the fact that people who do not report and pay their taxes on their tip income are plain and simply tax evaders, tax cheats, and no better from a right & wrong position that a billionaire who cheats on his taxes (which we find so very little of, because billionaires use tax lawyers and accountants).

      Reason.com: A coming crackdown on $1.6 billion in unreported tips will continue the IRS' long and ugly history of targeting low-income Americans.

      When President Joe Biden signed the Inflation Reduction Act last year, the White House touted how the bill's $80 billion in new funding for the IRS would "make our tax code fairer by cracking down on millionaires, billionaires, and corporations that evade their obligations."

      It now appears that some of those resources—and some of the coming crackdown on tax evasion—will, quite predictably, be aimed at individuals earning considerably less.

      This week, the Treasury Department and IRS announced plans to overhaul existing programs that track tips earned by service sector workers. The new Service Industry Tip Compliance Agreement (SITCA) program will "take advantage of advancements in point-of-sale, time and attendance systems, and electronic payment settlement methods to improve tip reporting compliance," according to the IRS.

      Of course, workers who earn more than $20 in monthly tips are already required to report their tips to their employers, and those tips are supposed to be included in tax data sent to the IRS.

      But a lot of that money never finds its way into the government's hands. As part of the announcement on Monday, the IRS highlighted a 2018 Treasury Inspector General report that estimated $1.66 billion in tips went unreported during the 2016 tax year.

      The IRS' proposal "streamlines both compliance with and enforcement of tip reporting requirements by eliminating employee participation," according to the notice published this week. Translation: We'll make sure the government gets its cut of those tips by simply removing workers from the transaction whenever possible.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        From what I understand, servers tend to get audited quite a bit for that reason, because of underreporting of tips. Speaking as someone who waited tables for a few years, pretty much everyone (upwards of 90%) shaves at least a bit down of what they're reporting from what they actually made. The ones who are really egregious about it in order to get government gibs are the ones who the IRS usually goes after.

        The smart ones will take a $100 shift and report, say, $90, because those deviations are so small that they aren't going to set off IRS radars. It's the ones who report $50 or less on that $100 who get tagged.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

          The IRS is not concerned about a few hundred dollars in taxes.

          The ones who are really egregious about it in order to get government gibs

          I would guess it is mostly this. If they force you to restate your income, then you lied on the state welfare forms. Now they can really get you to dance. Rat out your neighbors, give handjobs, whatever they want.

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        Taxation is theft. Period.

        1. Dillinger   10 months ago

          this guy gets it.

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

          No, like anti-racism, taxation is anti-theft. Cuz people who earn big bucks can only do that by stealing from others.

  45. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

    "Elon Musk's Offer to Kamala Harris After Trump Interview"
    [...]
    "Elon Musk has extended an invitation to Vice President Kamala Harris to appear in an interview with him after his conversation on X with Donald Trump.
    Musk, who owns X, [...] engaged in an almost two-hour interview with the former president on his app's Spaces feature..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/elon-musks-offer-to-kamala-harris-after-trump-interview/ar-AA1oI182?ocid=BingNewsSerp

    Imagine Cackles putting herself in a non-scripted discussion; fat chance.

    1. mad.casual   10 months ago

      Imagine Cackles putting herself in a non-scripted discussion; fat chance.

      Imagine.

    2. R Mac   10 months ago

      Last time she did that she said she smoked weed to music that hadn’t been created yet.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   10 months ago

        Think about it. She was either lying about doing it to look cool, or lying about when she did it to hide that she was a prosecutor at the time prosecuting people for what she herself was doing. Either way, she is every bit as much an opportunistic liar as Trump.

  46. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

    Elon. Yeah, you want his endorsement for sure.

    His record:

    2016 endorsed Bernie Sanders
    2020 endorsed Andrew Yang
    2024 endorses the Con Man

    #stillShortTesla

    1. Dillinger   10 months ago

      wake me when you get to the past being a construct of the present.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   10 months ago

        Elon is a political idiot.

        Some time back he sat down on Twitter and watched some Alex Jones type "Globalist Soros Pedophile Elite Cabal" and thought - "this makes sense".

        1. Dillinger   10 months ago

          >>Elon is a political idiot.

          and quite the Snoozemeister when running the show too.

        2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   10 months ago

      Some people, like Elon, learn from their mistakes.

      Some people, like you, Turd, consistently fail to learn from their mistakes and make the same ones repeatedly.

  47. Dillinger   10 months ago

    >>Her response was fairly anodyne but alluded to the purportedly problematic nature of Trump being interviewed or platformed at all, which is itself telling.

    what?

  48. Eeyore   10 months ago

    Why does some asshole in the EU care about US elections?

    1. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   10 months ago

      Because the effete, lazy bums have been mooching and grifting off of hardworking taxpaying Americans for almost 70 years now, and for the first time ever you have major political figures in America who have the nerve to openly ask "should this really continue to be a thing forever?" and the lazy bums' attitude not surprisingly is "hell yes it should!"

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   10 months ago

      Dude, don't you even WEF-OneWorld?

      1. Eeyore   10 months ago

        I guess not.

    3. R Mac   10 months ago

      Wait until you hear about the globalists.

    4. Rick James   10 months ago

      You're kidding, right?

  49. Dillinger   10 months ago

    >>The fact that a professional journalist—for a massive, mainstream publication—believes it improper for the Republican presidential nominee to be interviewed, and for that interview to reach the ears of more than a million people, remains a bit stunning

    I dunno ... I kind of expect 48-point bold AHAHAHAHAHAHAs at the page-top when one of your own acts like this but go with stunning I guess if you think it delivers.

    1. Ajsloss   10 months ago

      stunning and brave?

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

        Reluctant and strategic?

      2. Dillinger   10 months ago

        Gordon Ramsay has described so many dishes as stunning the word has no meaning anymore

        1. Zeb   10 months ago

          Or he's just easily stunned.

          1. Dillinger   10 months ago

            did not consider this.

  50. Dillinger   10 months ago

    >>Digital Commissioner Thierry Breton on X. "With great audience comes greater responsibility.

    someone post 9 middle fingers and a GFY at this guy oh wait ...

  51. Rick James   10 months ago

    Her response was fairly anodyne but alluded to the purportedly problematic nature of Trump being interviewed or platformed at all, which is itself telling.

    It's not telling, it's terrifying that our biggest news organizations and white house are essentially coordinating with each other to censor a president and major media platform.

    This... THIS is how you talk about this controversy.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      It wasn't "telling", it was lying: There was no such "allusion" being made.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        You.
        Are.
        Full.
        Of.
        Shit.
        FOAD, asshole.

  52. Rick James   10 months ago

    Just incredible that the person who said this was once making executive-level decisions at Twitter:

    “Musk’s actions should be a wake-up call for Starmer’s government to quietly legislate to take back control of what we collectively agree is permissible on social media.”

    Yes, and I believe that this was back when the mainline libertarian stance was “it’s not happening, and even if it were, they’re a private korporashun.”

    1. Zeb   10 months ago

      "Collective agreement" is not a thing when you are talking about thousands of people (let alone millions or billions of people).

    2. mad.casual   10 months ago

      Don't forget "Build your own social media platform."

      1. R Mac   10 months ago

        And “payment processing system”.

  53. Super Scary   10 months ago

    ""Elon Musk is slated to interview [former President] Donald Trump tonight on X"

    Did they get high and order pizza like on Joe Rogan? No? Booooooring!

    1. Dillinger   10 months ago

      T sounded like his retainer was slipping and for his reported brilliance E may be the most boring person on earth ... I had to stop listening

      1. Zeb   10 months ago

        I find Elon quite entertaining when he's being interviewed by a hostile interviewer. But I can imagine he isn't the most exciting interviewer himself.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          You don't have to imagine it; you can just listen to his "interview" of Donald Trump.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            You don't need more evidence of ONS's TDS-affliction, just read his "comments".
            FOAD, asshole.

          2. Zeb   10 months ago

            Yes, I did have to imagine it because I have not yet seen any of the interview.

        2. Dillinger   10 months ago

          >>being interviewed by a hostile interviewer.

          I guess when he destroyed the reporter yes. I didn't listen to the Rogan gig

  54. Rick James   10 months ago

    Scenes from New York: A judge has thrown Robert F. Kennedy Jr. off the state's ballot, so you will—at least as of right now—no longer be able to vote for him if you live here.

    No widespread election interference.

    1. Dillinger   10 months ago

      not until they remove the write-in line lol

      1. Davy C   10 months ago

        Writing people in often has no effect unless they're an "official" write-in candidate. Especially for presidential elections, where you're really voting for a slate of electoral college members, and not the candidate.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      Just Kennedy's election fraud.

      Remember: if it helps Trump, it's not election fraud!

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        Remember, if it needs an IQ above room temperature, this TDS-addled shit isn't going to hack it.
        FOAD, asshole.

      2. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        It’s so funny this is all making you so mad.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          Why would I be "mad" if Kennedy is kept off the ballot in New York due to his own petty election fraud? I think it's hilarious!

  55. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

    So much joy!
    FLASHBACK: Minnesota Governor Tim Walz Bribed Families to Give Experimental COVID Vaccines to Children
    https://bigleaguepolitics.com/flashback-minnesota-governor-tim-walz-bribed-families-to-give-experimental-covid-vaccines-to-children/

  56. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

    Minnesotans drowning in joy!
    ‘I was furious’: Mother says she couldn’t hold funeral for her son as Walz violated his own COVID orders
    https://alphanews.org/i-was-furious-mother-says-she-couldnt-hold-funeral-for-her-son-as-walz-violated-his-own-covid-orders/

    1. HorseConch   10 months ago

      The campaign ads are already writing themselves. It's hard to figure out which of them is less likeable, but I'm thinking Tampon Tim is in the lead.

  57. Roberta   10 months ago

    A judge has thrown Robert F. Kennedy Jr. off the state's ballot,

    I did politics in NY for years, and still need things explained! The issue is supposedly a Katonah NY address RFK listed as his residence, which the judge decided was a sham. Why does a candidate for president need a NY address? The candidates are actually "electors for" the presidential and vice presidential candidates, and would be stated as such on the nominating papers, and they need to be New Yorkers. They'll each get a letter saying they're being nominated, and they'll each need to produce a notarized acceptance letter. The presidential and vice presidential nominees just need some address where they can get mail. I don't know of any requirement they have to prove residency in any state; as long as they've been residents of the USA the previous 14 years, they could've been flitting about and relocating anywhere within it.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      Sounds like Kennedy's got a slam-dunk on appeal, then.

      I guess we'll see about that?

  58. Gaear Grimsrud   10 months ago

    People literally dying of joy in MN!
    https://www.stevesailer.net/p/how-did-tim-walz-do-at-black-lives

  59. Dillinger   10 months ago

    >>"It's not like the house is on fire immediately," Musk said.

    or at all, Father Nature ...

  60. JohnZ   10 months ago

    Right now tears are flowing throughout the E.U. and Curr Stammer is having a stroke because they failed to stop the interview. Good enough for me.
    From reading other web sites the interview garnered nearly a billion views!
    What I find refreshing is Elon's response to the little tyrants in the E.U. with the big middle finger.
    All they can do now is kick and scream and grab their crying blanket .
    Nothing could please me more.

    1. mtrueman   10 months ago

      "the interview garnered nearly a billion views!"

      There wasn't a lot to see.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

      Hell yeah! Let's have even more people listen to Trump slurring his speech (along with his usual incoherence and bullshit).

      It's all downhill from here...

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

        Well, shit, if it was so benign, there's no reason to censor it, now is there?

        1. mtrueman   10 months ago

          Since when do marxists need a reason?

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

            True, censorship of wrongthink is as natural to them as breathing.

            1. mtrueman   10 months ago

              Don't forget communists raping and mutilating children. There wasn't enough rape and mutilation in the interview for me. How about you? Did you get your fill or were you left with the desire for more?

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                Just because you've admitted to fantasizing about nine-year-olds masturbating doesn't mean everyone else does.

                1. mtrueman   10 months ago

                  That was a disappointing oversight, wasn't it? We need more talk of masturbation. And Marxists, too. Let's hope next time, they get their act together.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                    We definitely need to talk about exterminating more marxists. I hear college campuses have some gorgeous fields of fire.

                    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                      More "tough guy" talk from Red Hat White Heart, lol.

                      Do you even own a gun?

                2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

                  Don't get R Maccy all excited...

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   10 months ago

                    Or you and the other hicklib pederast.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   10 months ago

          Absolutely not. Not now, not ever!

          (That's possibly why I keep saying, "more people should hear Trump speak"...)

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            Stuff your TDS up your ass, your head is begging for company.
            And then make the world a far, far better place: FOAD, asshole.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

        Stuff your TDS up your ass, shit-for-brains, your head is begging for company.
        And then make the world a far, far better place: FOAD, asshole.

  61. mtrueman   10 months ago

    I 'saw' some of the interview on Twitter, and was overcome by a sense of nostalgia for the internet of the 1990s. Next time, how about an interview conducted in morse code? Main takeaway: being a billionaire doesn't make one a compelling conversationalist.

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   10 months ago

      What does the state of the internet have to with the content of an interview someone does?

      1. Don't look at me!   10 months ago

        Maybe there were flying toasters?

      2. mtrueman   10 months ago

        The medium is the massage.

        - Marshall McLuhan

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

          "Spouting nonsense is an end in itself."

          --mtrueman|8.30.17 @ 1:42PM

        2. HorseConch   10 months ago

          Can you translate that from retard to English?

          1. mtrueman   10 months ago

            For you? What's the point?

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   10 months ago

            Nope; retard is all trueman has.

  62. Uncle Jay   10 months ago

    "Actually, Interviewing Presidential Candidates Is a Good Thing."

    Not if you have an IQ of a rock, like Harris.

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