Texas Might Soon Become the First State To Execute Someone Based on Disputed 'Shaken Baby Syndrome' Evidence
Texas has set an October 17 execution date for Robert Roberson, convicted in 2003 of murdering his 2-year-old daughter.

If Texas follows through with its plans to impose the death penalty on Robert Roberson this October, it will become the first state in the country to execute someone whose conviction was based on what's commonly known as "shaken baby syndrome."
The former detective who arrested Roberson for murdering his 2-year-old daughter is no longer convinced that he did it. Roberson's attorneys say they have new evidence based on previously hidden medical records that his child really died of severe pneumonia, and they argue in a recently filed motion for a stay of execution that, since Roberson's trial, the theory behind shaken baby syndrome—now called abusive head trauma (AHT)—has "been entirely exposed as devoid of any scientific underpinnings."
Nevertheless, prosecutors insist that Roberson, who has been on Texas' death row since 2003, was convicted on sound evidence and should face justice. Earlier this summer, a judge agreed and set an October 17 execution date.
Roberson's case is only the highest-stakes example of a fight playing out in courtrooms around the country.
Last month, the Michigan Supreme Court overturned a 2006 murder conviction in the death of an infant and ruled that the defendant deserves a new trial. The court found that the defendant's expert witnesses, including a doctor who had testified for the prosecution at her original trial, had presented enough new evidence during the appeal process for a jury to have reasonable doubt about her guilt.
The Columbus Dispatch reported on two similar cases in Ohio this February. In one, a court dismissed charges in the retrial of a man convicted in 2003 of killing a 2-year-old child, ruling that a "shift in understanding by the medical community" meant there was "a strong probability of a different result on retrial." In the other case, a court ruled that a woman was eligible for compensation for spending 18 years in prison for the alleged shaking death of a child she was babysitting in 2003. Her conviction was overturned after the pathologist who conducted the autopsy recanted.
In New Jersey, the state supreme court is considering whether AHT evidence should be allowed in courtrooms at all, after a state trial court judge barred testimony from AHT experts in a child abuse trial in 2022. The trial court judge wrote that AHT is "an assumption packaged as a medical diagnosis, unsupported by any medical or scientific testing." A state appeals court upheld the ruling, writing that "the very basis of the theory has never been proven."
Even the pediatric neurosurgeon who first popularized the diagnosis in 1971 had grave doubts about how AHT ended up being used in courtrooms.
Some prosecutors and child abuse specialists have dismissed these objections as "fringe courtroom science" that undercuts very real incidents of abuse. But the number of exonerations points to a larger problem, or at least a live controversy. According to the National Registry of Exonerations, at least 33 parents and caregivers in 18 states convicted based on AHT evidence have been exonerated.
Roberson will join either that list or the much longer list of people who have taken the long walk to the execution chamber in Huntsville.
"I'm just adamantly refusing to acknowledge that's a possibility," his attorney, Gretchen Sween, says of the latter. "But we have not been able to find anybody that's come this close" to being executed.
A Definitive Diagnosis
One undisputed fact in this case is that Roberson's 2-year-old daughter, Nikki Curtis, was ill for much of her short, tragic life. She had chronic, antibiotic-resistant infections.
Roberson and Curtis' mother were estranged, and Curtis' maternal grandparents were the child's primary caregivers until Roberson was awarded custody of her shortly after her second birthday.
Roughly two months later, on January 28, 2002, Roberson took Curtis to the emergency room for vomiting, coughing, and diarrhea. He took her back to a pediatrician the next day, when her fever spiked to 104 degrees. Curtis was prescribed medication and sent home both times.
Curtis was supposed to stay with her grandparents for the next two days. But when one of them fell ill on the night of January 30, Roberson had to pick Curtis up. He was alone with her for the next 12 hours, the last person to see her conscious and breathing.
According to Robersons, he woke up in the middle of the night after hearing a "strange cry" to find that Curtis had fallen out of their bed—a box spring and mattress propped up on cinder blocks. He comforted her until they both fell back asleep. Hours later, Robert woke up again and found that Curtis had stopped breathing and turned blue.
Roberson drove Curtis to the hospital, where she was declared brain-dead. CAT scans revealed a set of internal head conditions: bleeding in the brain, brain swelling, and retinal hemorrhages. Child abuse specialists consider these the definitive "triad" of symptoms for AHT.
Pediatric neurosurgeon Norman Guthkelch released a groundbreaking paper in 1971 theorizing that the whiplash from violent shaking could cause fatal brain injuries in infants, even absent external evidence of abuse such as bruising and broken bones. Shaken baby syndrome not only led to a major shift in public awareness of child abuse; it also provided powerful evidence for criminal charges against abusive parents.
Curtis was taken off life support after two days. Police arrested Roberson for capital murder before an autopsy was performed.
"Instead of exploring all possible causes of the injury sustained by a chronically ill child who had been at the doctor's office with 104.5-degree temperature only two days before," Roberson's lawyers wrote in an August motion for a stay of execution, "a tragedy was deemed a crime and a father, doing the best he could to care for his daughter despite severe cognitive impairments, was falsely branded a murderer."
'There Had To Have Been Something More Than Just Impact'
At Roberson's trial, prosecutors for the state of Texas painted a very different picture.
Roberson's ex-girlfriend, as well as her daughter and one of her nieces—ages 10 and 11, respectively—testified that Roberson would shake and spank Curtis when she wouldn't stop crying. Roberson's ex-wife from a past marriage also testified that he physically beat and abused her. (Roberson's lawyers argue in his habeas corpus petition that the witnesses were biased, were not credible, and contradicted each other, and that the accusations only came out well after Roberson's arrest, following prodding and leading questions from police.)
Hospital staff testified that Curtis had bruises on her chin and jaw. An emergency room nurse testified at length, without corroborating evidence or certification as a sexual assault examiner, that Roberson had sexually abused his daughter.
Nurses, police, and doctors also testified for the state about Roberson's odd, emotionless, and lackadaisical behavior. He took the time to dress Curtis and find a parking spot at the hospital, even though she had stopped breathing.
Roberson, who struggled with speech delays growing up and dropped out of high school in ninth grade, was diagnosed with autism in 2018, which his lawyers say led to police and doctors misinterpreting his behavior.
But the most damning evidence came from two medical experts who testified that Curtis' injuries appeared to have been caused by shaking and blunt force impacts. AHT played a large part in both doctors' testimonies.
"It is my opinion…that there was some component of shaking that happened to explain all the deep brain injury out of proportion, I would say, to the injury to the skull and the back of the head," testified Janet Squires, a licensed expert in Child Abuse Pediatrics who has testified in hundreds of child-abuse trials. "There had to have been something more than just impact."
By the late 1990s, the medical and law-enforcement consensus was not just that shaking an infant could produce the triad of symptoms associated with AHT. If the triad of symptoms was present, the default conclusion was abuse by a parent or caretaker.
A 2002 guide to investigating child abuse from the Department of Justice's Office of Juvenile Justice and Delinquency Prevention said retinal hemorrhages were, "for all practical purposes, conclusive evidence of shaken baby syndrome in the absence of a good explanation."
In a criminal justice system where convictions must be based on evidence beyond a reasonable doubt, an expert's testimony that a child's injuries could only have been caused by abuse is devastating to a defendant's case, especially a defendant already facing a highly prejudicial charge.
Faith in the diagnosis was so entrenched at the time that Roberson's trial attorney did not even challenge it, describing the incident in his opening arguments as a "classic shaken baby case." Roberson's current attorneys wrote in his recent petition for a writ of habeas corpus that the statement was an "enormously prejudicial and erroneous concession."
In 2003, a Texas jury convicted Roberson of capital murder and sentenced him to death by lethal injection.
Shifting Science and Polarized Debate
Even at the time Roberson was convicted, cracks were starting to form in the orthodoxy around AHT.
A growing body of research over the 2000s and 2010s challenged the assumption that the triad of AHT symptoms was conclusive evidence of child abuse. Studies showed that other conditions, such as blood disorders, could mimic AHT symptoms. A 2009 Washington University Law Review article summarized the findings: "Depending upon the clinical picture presented, the differential diagnosis for symptoms previously associated exclusively with [shaken baby syndrome] now contemplates a wide range of nontraumatic possibilities: medical or surgical interventions; prenatal, perinatal and pregnancy-related conditions; birth effects; infections; diseases; disorders; malformations; post-vaccinal conditions; re-bleeds; and hypoxia (lack of oxygen to the brain)."
Guthkelch, the doctor who first popularized shaken baby syndrome, became a critic of how it was being used in courtrooms after he reviewed the case of an Arizona man convicted of murder based on AHT evidence and concluded the man was innocent. In a 2012 paper published in the Houston Journal of Health Law & Policy, Guthkelch urged pediatric abuse specialists to question their findings.
"Often, there seems to have been inadequate inquiry into the possibility that the picture resulted from natural causes," Guthkelch wrote. "In reviewing cases where the alleged assailant has continued to proclaim his/her innocence, I have been struck by the high proportion of those in which there was a significant history of previous illness or of abnormalities of structure and function of the nervous system, suggesting that the problem was natural or congenital, rather than abusive. Yet these matters were hardly, if at all, considered in the medical reports."
Guthkelch, who died in 2016, spent his last years trying to amicably resolve the unusually fierce debates between the two camps—pediatric organizations and abuse specialists, who still represented a majority view, and the skeptics who often worked with defense attorneys and innocence groups.
In 2018, Pediatric Radiology published a consensus statement from nine pediatric and radiology organizations. It declared that there "is no controversy concerning the medical validity of the existence of AHT," but it went on to say that a doctor's workup "must exclude medical diseases that can mimic AHT."
In 2020, the American Academy of Pediatrics released a revised policy statement on AHT stating that the organization "continues to embrace the 'shaken baby syndrome' diagnosis as a valid subset of the AHT diagnosis." It acknowledged the debate over the diagnosis but framed it as "a philosophical one, not a scientific one"—an argument over the degree of certainty physicians attribute to their AHT findings on the stand.
A major reason for the perception that AHT is a flawed theory is that exonerations keep happening. In 2021, the Georgia Supreme Court overturned the life sentences of a man and woman convicted of murdering their newborn daughter after finding they had received ineffective counsel. The couple presented evidence that their daughter had a serious birth defect and that county prosecutors had illegally withheld CAT scans that would have supported their defense.
Critics of how AHT is used in courtrooms say that's the rub—not that it's impossible to hurt a baby by shaking it, but that cognitive bias causes doctors to inadequately consider other possibilities and dismiss contrary evidence.
"I've had cases in the last several years where physicians think that a case is abuse," says Kate Judson, executive director of the Center for Integrity in Forensic Sciences, a group that works against what it considers unreliable forensic techniques. "They order tests, and those tests come back outside of the normal limits. So a kid's blood is taking too long to clot or it's clotting too quickly, which can both lead to significant problems, including internal bleeding and stroke and things like that. And then they say, 'Well, those tests are not relevant because we already knew it was trauma.'"
Another problem, Judson says, is that the adversarial nature of the court system doesn't give doctors the kind of feedback that makes them better diagnosticians.
"A physician I know told me you only miss the same terrible cancer once if you're a good doctor," Judson says. "You miss it, you get caught, you feel horrible, and then that's always in your mind. You don't make that mistake again, one hopes, right? But in these cases, there's no meaningful opportunity for feedback, because once the physician decides that it's child abuse, much of the other investigation ceases."
And because the U.S. justice system heavily values finality in verdicts, courts lag behind the times when it comes to science. It can take years to get courts to question the validity of established forensic methods or even pure quackery once they're introduced. For example, Texas only recently banned prosecutors from using statements obtained by police through "investigative hypnosis."
Texas is something of a paradox, though, because in 2013 it also became the first state in the country to pass a law allowing inmates to challenge convictions based on outdated or debunked forensic methods.
The so-called "junk science writ" already helped Roberson narrowly avoid a trip to the execution chamber once. In 2016, the Texas Court of Criminal Appeals (CCA) granted Roberson a stay of execution to allow him a hearing to challenge his conviction on both actual innocence grounds and under the junk science writ.
Yet a trial court and the CCA both denied Roberson relief and agreed with prosecutors that because the experts at Roberson's trial had not exclusively relied on an AHT diagnosis but a combination of shaking and blunt impacts, the state's cause-of-death theory had not been disproven.
"I am a native Texan," says Sween, "and one of the maddening things about this state is there can be these very bold moves in the right direction to reform criminal justice and then just absolute recalcitrance and unfairness baked into the same system."
A July report by the Texas Defender Service, the first comprehensive review of the junk science writ, concluded that the "law systematically fails to provide relief to innocent people convicted based on false forensic evidence."
"The legislative solution is useless if the courts don't honor it," Sween continues. "Not a single person on Texas's death row who has tried to get relief under the statute has gotten it, not one. And that is statistically alarming."
New Evidence and Old Acquaintances
What's different with Roberson's new round of last-ditch appeals is that his lawyers now say they have evidence, not available in 2016, that Curtis died from undiagnosed viral and bacterial pneumonia so severe that it progressed to sepsis—not from shaking or blunt force head trauma.
CAT scans, X-rays, and a complete autopsy file were rediscovered in a courthouse basement in 2018, and Roberson's lawyers recruited an expert in pediatric radiology, a lung pathologist, and an expert in medical toxicology to review the records.
After inspecting the images and autopsy evidence, the three experts concluded that the symptoms attributed to abuse could all be explained by Curtis' severe pneumonia, complications from her oxygen-starved condition, and side effects of medications she was improperly prescribed during the two doctor visits prior to her death. One of those medications was codeine cough syrup, which depresses respiratory function, and the other, Phenergan, now has a "black box" warning by the Food and Drug Administration against prescribing it to children younger than 2 because it can cause severe breathing problems.
"The condition of Nikki's lung tissue cannot be reconciled with the conclusion that her death was caused by blunt force head injuries, inflicted or otherwise," the lung pathologist, Francis Green, wrote in the habeas petition.
The radiologist also concluded that there were not "multiple impacts" to Curtis' skull, as a doctor testified at Roberson's trial—just a single, minor impact that was insufficient to cause her death.
Among the most unexpected believers in Roberson's innocence is the man who arrested him: Bryan Wharton, the lead detective in Palestine, Texas, at the time of Curtis' death.
In a video interview with The New York Times this July, Wharton, who is now a minister, said that based on what he now knows of the controversy over AHT and Roberson's autism diagnosis, there is "unassailable doubt" that Roberson committed the crime.
"No other possibilities for [Curtis'] injuries were considered," Wharton told the Times. "I regret deeply that we followed the easiest path."
As Roberson's October 17 execution date approaches, the window of opportunity for the state of Texas to choose another path grows smaller and smaller.
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They have held the guy for 21 years. Best juice him lest he sue for unlawful imprisonment. Those suits cost a lot of money!
Dead men tell no tales.
Texas doesn't give a shit about actual guilt, only guilt they can manufacture. Prosecutors everywhere get aroused if they can destroy someone's life. Remember just what Kamala Harris was in San Francisco. She cost the city millions for false murder convictions, and went after young black men who couldn't afford attorneys for minor cannabis charges. I just wish the Republicans had nominated someone who was merely morally questionable instead of Trump, the morally bankrupt man we may be stuck with. We're screwed.
Um... YOU'RE screwed mebbe, but I have been voting part libertarian since 1980, and yellow-dog libertarian since 1982. MY libertarian spoiler votes and donations go--in the words of Austin's own Gary Johnson--to Our Lives, Our Fortunes and Our Sacred Honor. Gary was good at stressing "Our Fortunes" in Travis County Libertarian Party fundraising efforts. Bear in mind that Chase Oliver in his upsetting of the Kleptocracy Senate race in Georgia, paid ten cents a vote while the looters had to shell out $42 on average for an equivalent (albeit bought) vote. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2022/11/12/libertarian-dollars-matter/
Don’t shill your nonsensical rantings here, you demented old loon.
May I remind you: the lesser of two evils, sir.
sick
THIS CANNOT HAPPEN !!!
Texas - Mr. Abbott - you cannot send a man to his death based on old, incorrect science, and prosecutors who want to murder someone - technically performing the SAME crime they charge and imprison people for - and doctors at hospitals who cry abuse. Do your research and homework - it is physically impossible for a human being to shake a baby to death. Doctors and medical examiners will say its like being in a car accident - and I ask you to think logically about that - how much does a vehicle weigh? to receive whiplash in a car accident, as a result of 2 or more 2,600 pound cars, which result in whiplash, right? Does everyone agree to that? Now tell me who you know that is strong enough to shake a baby that would cause the same damage as a 2,600 pound car. IT DOES NOT ADD UP. Furthermore, 'hidden' medical records are the key here. WHY hide them? Why would a hospital and their staff hide medical records of a child? HOW does that make sense? This man is unfairly sitting in a jail cell based on FAULTY science, all because he took his sick child to the doctor and hospital - and THEY failed the child by sending her home? She was obviously sick! And now the state of Texas wants to murder him? This is unjust!! And for those who want to quote stats on shaken baby syndrome - I encourage you to really do your research and your homework - because if biomechanical engineers cannot re-create that same level of trauma that doctors and prosecutors claim, then how can anyone truly believe it? Even the man who originally coined the terms has reneged - oh and by the way, he said this over 50 years ago - and science and medicine have only gotten smarter over that time, yet child abuse doctors and prosecutors have not. In fact, it's happening every day in our country even NOW. Where innocent parents and caregivers, who call 911 and rush their children to ERs are falsely accused of child abuse by child abuse pediatricians who DO NOT even look for other reasons as to why the child is ill or non-responsive. And people face horrible consequences. I lost my nephew recently and the young, child abuse specialist - who went to med school outside of the country, which means she couldn't get into a U.S. med school - claimed shaken baby syndrome - but yet, when we received all of his medical records, it turns out that he was misdiagnosed by not only his pediatrician, but that child abuse specialist. It was only then that I began my research into the topic. As an adult with a graduate level degree, I quickly became aware of this situation, and the TRUTH of it is, a human being cannot shake a baby to death. It's that simple. Ask yourself how long was it that the child was unconscious before a 'bruise' appeared? It's likely pooled blood from laying unconscious for so long. Use common sense. Think things through. What can we do to get this man, a disabled man by the way, off of death row? This is simply unacceptable, and for the PEOPLE to murder someone who they accuse of MURDER is NOT justice. Is it in fact the same CRIME, and perhaps the PEOPLE should be charged and jailed? And to all of the young parents out there - if your child gets sick - DO NOT TAKE them to the hospital - they will treat you as a criminal. By the way, I am a mom of twins, and I firmly believe in, and stand by this post.
Yeah,that's worse than murder.
A jury of twelve convicted him.
Just like a jury if twelve convicted Trump.
But the jury which convicted Robertson was a jury of Texans (aka Real Murican patriots) therefore their verdict is correct, while the jury which convicted Trump was a jury of New Yorkers (socialists, communist and traitors) therefore their verdict is bullshit.
Poor Lying Jeffy.
He's a sociopathic monster. There's nothing "poor" about that Nazi.
One can easily be poor in mind, yet rich in pocketbook.
Who's Robertson?
Those Medical Experts testify to keep their Expert status and tell them what they wanna hear.
the theory behind shaken baby syndrome—now called abusive head trauma (AHT)—has "been entirely exposed as devoid of any scientific underpinnings."
I would like to propose an experiment, I just need someone to volunteer their baby.
This is a common misconception about science that it requires a double-blind prospective experiment in order to prove the conclusion. Having said that, the problem here is that prosecutors and legislators are highly invested in finding excuses to prosecute suspects. The lack of scientific evidence should ALWAYS bar legislators from legislating and prosecutors from prosecuting – ALWAYS! If, as in this case, you can’t justify your legislation based on experimental evidence, We the People should as a minimum require sound non-experimental scientific evidence before allowing the legislation and only with extreme caution and safety rails! Obviously, there is a long list of pseudo-scientific criminology tricks that are gradually being struck down, not fast enough to save people abused by the system.
Of course we don't need double-blind prospective experiment to tell us what is true or not. We just need credentialed asshats like you and Fauci to devine The Science for us rubes.
On a completely unrelated note, 6 times boosted and double mask wearing Fauci is positive for Covid for a third time.
Yeah but without all those vaxes and masks he’d be dead.
Really? Fauci and facemasking is the best you can come up with in the face of fingerprints, bite marks, lie detectors, hair analysis, facial recognition, and abuse of the DSM-V?! I'm so disappointed in you!
Of course, nowhere did I actually say that - but have it your way. I would guess (unscientifically) that 99% of human beliefs have nothing whatever to do with analysis of facts. Humans would be permanently paralyzed in day-to-day life if we had to analyze every choice we make by researching facts and proving that our choice was scientifically correct. My point is that if you're going to execute a fellow human you better be damned sure that they're guilty of something that ought to be a crime. Taking ten or twenty years of someone's life by imprisoning them is, in some ways, worse than killing them. Perhaps you don't see it that way though.
Too true,we had a much lauded Expert here in Corrupticut,Dr Lee should be imprisoned for perjury.
NOT funny. Despite my username.
If Texas follows through with its plans to impose the death penalty on Robert Roberson this October
Do TX governors EVER do the clemency on death row thing? Not many votes for that path of action
The governor can grant clemency only upon the written recommendation of a majority of the Board of Pardons and Paroles, whose members he appoints. He has the limited authority to grant a one-time, 30-day stay of execution.
I guess he could just keep firing board members, but weren't you one of Comey's defenders? Weird.
Whatever happened to the NM death sentence for Jesus Caucus murdered Robert Dear?
Based on how often Reason cries wolf on anything to do with the death penalty, without doing any research of my own, I'm going to just assume this is an incredibly lopsided and ridiculous take on an open-and-shut case.
Nope. It is inline with many other SBS reports. The science behind SBS has been debunked. Even if the baby did die of SBS, we now know that it can take hours for the symptoms to manifest, so the practice of prosecuting the last person to be alone with the baby is wrong.
Well, given that he reportedly went back to sleep and woke up several hours later to find the baby dead, that would be in line with several hours to manifest.
You'd make a great Texas Juror. No facts required to convince you. If the blameless cops arrested him, he's guilty, right? I just have to ask what the hell you're doing even reading a Libertarian email, you clearly have no clue what Libertarians even stand for.
At what point does everyone telling you the conviction is wrong, including the police & govt officials that are on “your side” as a judge, make you change your mind ?
How as “no one ” ever been granted clemency for junk science ever in the history of ever ? Is Texas that stubborn ? Or does no one want to admit wrongdoing for fear of opening the floodgates of shady prosecutions?
Some possibilities
1. "We never make mistakes"
2. "The DP is such an effective deterrent it's worth it if we occasionally execute an innocent person." (I once heard a Texas DA say this on a BBC documentary.)
3. "We know in our hearts they're guilty, regardless of what some Yankee scientist says."
4. "We don't lose votes if we execute someone who might be innocent. We do lose votes if we don't execute someone who might be guilty."
and 5. "Where there's smoke, there's fire."
#2 should be a criminal offense.
"2. “The DP is such an effective deterrent it’s worth it if we occasionally execute an innocent person.”
This was always such a mealy-mouthed bullshit argument. The death penalty can be a deterrent, but not the way the US does it. In order for it to be an effective deterrent you have to do it like Iran and Saudi Arabia do. Publicly.
Start holding executions at Super Bowl halftime shows, or in the center of Times Square, or the Mall in Washington. Own it. Show the guy crying with piss running down his leg on the evening news. Show his corpse dangling and surrounded by flies. That's a deterrent.
Hiding it away in secret rooms is the opposite of a deterrent.
I'm very anti-death penalty because 1. at least 35% of the cops, prosecutors and judges are crooked as hell and will totally set someone up, and 2. because the state having the power of death over it's citizens will absolutely be misused at some point in the country's history.
Blackstone's Ratio has been around since at least the 1760's, and I haven't read anything that's made his case less compelling.
“The DP is such an effective deterrent it’s worth it if we occasionally execute an innocent person.” (I once heard a Texas DA say this on a BBC documentary.)
C.S. Lewis wrote that both rehabilitation and deterrence (or for that matter restitution) do not strictly require that a person be guilty to be punished. Only retribution requires that. It's an interesting little essay - Humanitarian Theory of Punishment - and the source of the quote:
My contention is that good men (not bad men) consistently acting upon that position would act as cruelly and unjustly as the greatest tyrants. They might in some respects act even worse. Of all tyrannies a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It may be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron’s cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience. They may be more likely to go to Heaven yet at the same time likelier to make a Hell of earth. Their very kindness stings with intolerable insult.
Jesus H. Christ. What was the name of the prosecutor? I’ll file a bar complaint RIGHT NOW. (Or at least the name of the documentary).
I got an M.S. in Criminal Justice and didn’t even notice that. Thanks for bringing it to my attention.
At what point does everyone telling you the conviction is wrong, including the police & govt officials that are on “your side” as a judge, make you change your mind ?
Admit to not being infallible? Not a chance.
I don't require any legal system to be infallible, mostly because it would be impossible to implement such a thing. We must never let the perfect be the enemy of "good enough." Having said that, there is absolutely NO good reason to feed additional garbage into the system that is already garbage in, garbage out unnecessarily. Expert opinion that is not based upon sound scientific evidence was ruled out of all Federal courts long ago, and for very good reasons.
I don’t require any legal system to be infallible
You don't. But the people inside it want to appear infallible.
Good enough may be fine in civil cases, but not in criminal cases, and definitely not in death penalty cases.
The junk science writ was only passed in 2013. Considering the speed of the courts, that’s a pretty short “ever in the history of ever.” Also, numerous people have had their convictions overturned, just none on death row so far.
Is Texas that stubborn?
Yes.
Texas has MANY problems with its laws. It also has many problems with how its laws are enforced. I wrote a blog about it with one vlog as well. For example a complaint to the state government gets shuffled away instead of investigated. I could go on but its very early and I didn't sleep so well. Maybe after I go back to sleep and wake up again.
Reason: A state appeals court upheld the ruling, writing that "the very basis of the theory has never been proven."
Also Reason: Nitrogen asphyxiation is untested. Abortions only destroy fetal tissue. Sonograms detect electrical currents. And the only way out of COVID is with more testing.
"not that it's impossible to hurt a baby by shaking it, but that cognitive bias causes doctors to inadequately consider other possibilities and dismiss contrary evidence."
I had it beaten into me (metaphysically speaking) that it was the duty of the medical practitioner to approach EVERY diagnosis from a "differential diagnosis" perspective and that it constituted medical malpractice if you failed to rule out other causes of the presenting findings. It is so important that we were required to memorize the mnemonic VINDICATE (vascular, inflammatory, neoplastic, etc.) to organize the consideration for each new patient. This is indeed the "rub" with all medicolegal processes and shaken baby syndrome is not the only "diagnosis" to have been abused egregiously by lawyers, doctors, scientists and officials.
And doctors who are more inclined to follow the guidance you describe are less likely to have second careers as expert witnesses.
No kidding!
According to the National Registry of Exonerations, at least 33 parents and caregivers in 18 states convicted based on AHT evidence have been exonerated.
Without any numbers on convictions, it is impossible to find the percentage of failure.
Therefore, this stat is meaningless.
True - statistical illiteracy is pervasive.
Without any numbers on convictions, it is impossible to find the percentage of failure.
Therefore, this stat is meaningless.
Right. I absolutely don't doubt that there are wrongful cases of shaken baby syndrome. But the idea that an adult can't shake a baby to death and, therefore, any case where this is assumed or an implication is therefore subject to reversal isn't a more sound reasonable or scientific conclusions.
But the idea that an adult can’t shake a baby to death and, therefore, any case where this is assumed or an implication is therefore subject to reversal isn’t a more sound reasonable or scientific conclusions.
Then it's a good thing no one is arguing for that.
I've got a relative who had a baby young. The baby didn't survive six mos. The explanation for the cause of death the immediate family settled on was "vaccines". That's the level of, and I say this as someone who isn't vaccinated against COVID, abjectly-retarded vibe that "the very basis of the theory has never been proven." gives off.
Anyone who says, "The very basis of Abusive Head Trauma has never been proven." should be hit in the head with a golf club.
It seems clear that the part of the theory that hadn’t been proven was that the triad of symptoms described was sufficient to presume that a death was attributable to shaken baby syndrome. No one is arguing that head trauma from abuse cannot exist, or that it’s fine for babies to be shaken or hit upside the head.
Anyone saying the court or C.J. Ciaramella isn’t saying “The very basis of Abusive Head Trauma has never been proven.” should be hit in the head with a golf club.
I’ll grant leniency and let them off with a warning served if they’re willing to testify publicly that C.J. is shitty journalist misquoting the judge and/or court and that C.J. should be hit in the head with a golf club.
The basis of AHT *hasn’t* been proven. AHT is the name they replaced “shaken baby syndrome” with when the previous name proved problematic because the entire diagnosis was hypothetical and unsupported by evidence. “Abusive Head Trauma” is not just a phrase meaning “head trauma inflicted by someone abusive.” It’s a PR makeover for a specific diagnosis. Being hit with a golf club isn’t going to be diagnosed as AHT. The whole idea behind shaken baby syndrome was that you could have internal effects from shaking without external markers of trauma like bruising, bleeding, swelling, neck injuries etc., and that if you saw the triad of internal symptoms you could assume abuse. If you want to pretend that saying “the basis of AHT has never been proven” means “head trauma from abuse has never been proven to exist” then I guess you can, but it seems kind of pointless.
The whole point is that highly motivated prosecutors welcomed a totally unsupported medical theory and abused it. If you shoot somebody they have to prove that you did it. If they use a lie detector, or a corrupted lineup, or bite marks or hair analysis, or coerce false testimony or abuse DNA evidence or fingerprints or bullet rifling forensics then they have failed to prove that you’re guilty whether a credulous jury swallows the lies or not. If medical experts say falsely that “shaken baby syndrome” is the ONLY explanation for the autopsy or emergency department findings, then your prosecution is based on a lie. They have failed to prove that you are guilty of a crime, whether you end up being punished for it or not. First the doctors have to rule out all other causes of the medical evidence! Only then can they conclude that it was "shaken baby syndrome."
Expert testimony is a high paying business. It's not unusual for experts for the defense to ague it flat while experts argue it round based on the same "science". In too many cases defendants don't have the cash to get in the game. We still have people taking lie detector tests for crissake. Might as well examine chicken entrails. All purported experts and purported science should be viewed with deep skepticism. And if you're going to execute somebody it better be iron clad. It may be that the jury had sufficient evidence to convict and sentence this man without the shaken baby claims. The appellate court thinks so. But there is no way they can possibly know. Give this guy a new trial. If the jury is convinced without the junk science then carry on.
Tv doesn't help either.
Yeah, the problem with experts is that experts disagree with each other and are wrong all the time. I don't know what you do about it, but it seems to me that the acceptance of "experts" at face value in court cases is a big problem. Given the level of scientific literacy of your average citizen, I don't have much confidence in the ability of juries to assess the validity of supposedly expert scientific testimony.
The My Cousin Vinny finale.
The expert proven wrong by the hairdressah.
Though in that case the defence expert was indeed an expert and accepted as such by prosecution and judge. 🙂
Plus Marisa Tomei.
everything that guy just said is bullshit.
And, just to be clear/self-aware, there is a heaping helping of "If only those poor people would make the right decisions, we wouldn't have to fix the system for them." baked into your/the concern.
Which is all well and good until I see a video of affluent liberal white women practically shouting about selling aborted baby legs, aware that if anyone heard them "out of context" it would sound absolutely horrible, and hear people talk about how Fauci should be strung up by the neck for conducting experiments on beagles. Then I begin to thing even the relatively smart and supposedly enlightened people may not have it all straight either.
anyone who would harm a beagle should be strung upside down and have his skin pulled off slowly.
Nobody has all of anything straight.
I think this is a version of "necessary but not sufficient." You may need an expert to testify, but it should NEVER be sufficient to convict. At the very least the expert should be able to cite convincing and unrefuted scientific support for the forensics they are relying upon.
Very good. And it’s also often the case that the prosecution can afford expert testimony while the defence can’t – so we don’t even get duelling experts.
you know if there was no death penalty in Texas ...
People would still be paying to keep people like Abel Revill Ochoa, John William Hummel, and John Lezell Balentine in meals and sleeping arrangements?
I heard covid was designed to take care of those types in their cells
"But the guy probably ran a red light or something, therefore he's basically a guilty guy anyway so might as well execute him. Reason, why can't you pick a more sympathetic case?"
he's definitely guilty for that ... Buick?
I was interested in Texas banning the last meal for a prisoner to be executed.
This law was passed thanks to a murderer named Lawrence Russell Brewer, who was executed on September 21st, 2011, for the hate crime slaying of James Byrd Jr.
For his meal he asked for: two chicken fried steaks, a triple-meat bacon cheeseburger, fried okra, a pound of barbecue, three fajitas, a meat lover's pizza, a pint of ice cream, and a slab of peanut butter fudge with crushed peanuts. Then, he didn't eat any of it.
To wash it all down, he was given three root beers but Brewer didn't touch his lavish meal at all and told the staff at Huntsville prison that he wasn't hungry, essentially thumbing his nose at the system one last time.
I suspect the banning has more effect on the guards than the prisoners, who must have other things on their minds as they face death. For the guards though, it gives them a chance to show some compassion and care, and taking it away dehumanizes even more what must be a difficult job.
Not to mention that the guards got to eat all that barbecue and pizza!
> "Not a single person on Texas's death row who has tried to get relief under the statute has gotten it, not one. And that is statistically alarming."
No, it isn't, not if you, you know, have any actual feeling for statistics.
There have been 78 executions in Texas from 2014 to date, and there are 176 people currently on death row in Texas. Add all the exonerations/reduced sentences/deaths while on death row from 2014 to date (56 if I counted right). That universe of 310 cases are the ones where all occurrences of "person on death row gets relief from 'junk science' statute" cases have to come from.
Now, what percentage, really, are going to be cases where the jury's unanimous vote for both conviction and the death penalty was A) on no other evidentiary basis than forensic evidence that would under current legal standards be inadmissible, and B) in trials where the only defect supporting relief was that such evidence was presented (rather than, say, incompetent counsel, police or prosecutorial misconduct, etc.)?
Horrified, I realized that a typical cinder block raised bed was a place that you plant flowers or vegetables, and that both the child and father had been "sleeping" in one!
The death penalty should be abolished.
No, it should not.
Yeah it should.
1. The state should not have the power to legally execute anyone. That is too much power for the state to have.
2. Legal executions inevitably means that innocent people will be executed, because no system of executions constructed by flawed human beings is completely 100% flawless.
3. The US is not in good company with other nations when it comes to legal executions. Every other Western nation has abolished it.
4. Just having legal executions inevitably means that the scope of crimes subject to the death penalty tends to grow over time, as politicians stumble over themselves to pander to the crowd on a "tough on crime" message. For example, not all murders are subject to the death penalty (depends on each state, of course), so how long will it be until a murder that would otherwise not be subjected to the death penalty, becomes eligible because it was a so-called 'hate crime'? Which politician is going to stand up and vote against that? Any who do will be demagogued to death as either being 'soft on crime' or 'pro-hate'.
5. Those who favor the death penalty tend to complain that the process is too slow and too expensive. But, the reason WHY the process is slow and expensive is because of the (flawed) safeguards in place to try to prevent the wrongfully convicted from being executed. So the tendency from death penalty supporters is to try to REMOVE these safeguards in order to make the process quicker and cheaper. Sorry, you can't have it both ways.
6. And because the process is so slow (by necessity), the death penalty can never be a suitable deterrent that the death penalty advocates want it to be.
Those who favor the death penalty tend to complain that the process is too slow and too expensive. But, the reason WHY the process is slow and expensive is because of the (flawed) safeguards in place to try to prevent the wrongfully convicted from being executed. So the tendency from death penalty supporters is to try to REMOVE these safeguards in order to make the process quicker and cheaper. Sorry, you can’t have it both ways.
These safeguards were much less slower in 1924 than in 2024.
I wonder why.
No, I actually agree with jeff the retard on this.
Death Penalty has too much finality and too much margin of error to justify itself. It’s like abortion – if we’re mistaken, it’s one we can’t take back or make right. That’s not acceptable.
Death penalty should be abolished, right alongside abortion (and PAS/euthanasia).
However slight, the benefit of the doubt should always go to life.
However slight, the benefit of the doubt should always go to life.
That is the same rationale used in opposing Israel retaliating against Hamas.
CJ:
Please fact check and vet. Please.
As has been known for decades, both National Registry of Exonerations and the Death Penalty Information Center have redefined both innocent and exonerated as if they had redefined lie as truth. For those that fact check and vet this is very well known.
REASON will do neither. Why?
How have they redefined innocent?
REASON. Really?
Your write that NAE shows 33 exoneratios in SBS cases without telling us that:
“It is estimated that 1,000–3,000 children in the United States suffer from SBS each year.” (1) or
30,000-90,000 cases over the past 30 years.
Not to mention the additional obvious, that NAE’s “exonerations” does not require proof of innocence.
REASON?! Not here.
1) from www (DOT) health (DOT) ny (DOT) gov