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Media Criticism

Tim Walz Was Dead Wrong About Misinformation and Free Speech

Kamala Harris' veep should learn something about the First Amendment.

Robby Soave | 8.8.2024 10:15 AM

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Now that Minnesota Democratic Gov. Tim Walz has become Vice President Kamala Harris' running mate, it is ostensibly time for the media to scrutinize his record and past statements. (Emphasis on ostensibly.)

To say the mainstream coverage of Walz has been fawning thus far would be quite an understatement; The New York Times described him as "a one-man rejoinder to the idea that the Democrats are the party of the cultural and coastal elite." The Atlantic's Charlie Warzel merrily aided media efforts to portray Walz as a lovable, folksy paternal figure, writing that "dad is on the ballot." CNN proclaimed the Harris-Walz team as "an antidote to Trump's American carnage."

"Kamala Harris and Tim Walz want to make America joyful again," wrote CNN's Stephen Collinson.

The task of scrutinizing Walz will clearly fall to other interested parties. (See Reason's Eric Boehm on his overall record, and this piece by me on his COVID-19 policies.)

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Conservatives on social media did manage to dig up an old clip of Walz making an alarming and false claim: "There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy."

Walz is wrong, of course: The First Amendment, which vigorously protects Americans' free speech rights, does not distinguish between good information and misinformation. Moreover, so-called hate speech—an arbitrary category, as different people find different sorts of speech to be hateful—is quite obviously protected.

But that clip of Walz is only eight seconds long, and I am wary of taking people out of context. So I looked for the rest of the clip, which is available here.

Here is a rough transcript of Walz's response to a question from MSNBC about trying to trick people into not voting, or voting incorrectly.

"Years ago, it was the little things: telling people to vote the day after the election, and we kind of brushed them off. Now, we know it's intimidation at the ballot box. It's undermining the idea that mail-in ballots aren't legal. I think we need to push back on this. There's no guarantee to free speech on misinformation or hate speech, and especially around our democracy. Tell the truth, where the voting places are, who can vote, who's able to be there. Watching some states continue to weaken the protections around the ballot I think is what's inspiring us to lean into this. Again, all we're asking is to make it as easy and simple as possible to exercise their right to vote and participate in our democracy. I'm in 100 percent agreement with you. That makes it so that more people are there, you get more opinions brought in, and I think it tempers [those] extremes that we get. Again, I can't imagine someone going and standing in line for eight hours to try and vote and then being told that maybe the votes didn't count or maybe something's wrong. You have these candidates who lose and are on these ridiculous court cases that they keep bringing up and losing on."

Suffice it to say, the surrounding context does not greatly improve the accuracy of Walz's remark.

 

Dad Joke

It's unfortunately true that false statements about the time, place, and manner of voting in U.S. elections are occasionally criminalized. For instance, the Justice Department prosecuted a man, Douglass Mackey, for making jokes online encouraging Democrats to vote over the phone. The authorities cited an obscure law from 1870 aimed at preventing the Ku Klux Klan from threatening black voters away from the polls. The Volokh Conspiracy's Eugene Volokh was disturbed by the government's actions, and wrote that the authorities were entering murky territory.

If Walz had said that deliberately misinforming specific people about how and when to vote can be considered a criminal action under certain circumstances, he would have been on solid ground. But he was obviously making a much more general claim about spreading so-called election-related misinformation. Lumping in hate speech only weakens his claim even further: The Supreme Court has held that labeling speech as hateful does not render it unsayable. Indeed, the First Amendment is specifically designed to protect speech in the event that government authorities attempt to suppress it on such grounds. As Justice Samuel Alito wrote in his opinion on behalf of a unanimous Court in the 2017 case of Matal v. Tam: "Speech that demeans on the basis of race, ethnicity, gender, religion, age, disability, or any other similar ground is hateful; but the proudest boast of our free speech jurisprudence is that we protect the freedom to express 'the thought that we hate.'"

Walz is hardly the first political figure to make this mistake; high-level government and media actors who ought to know better frequently suggest that bad, wrong, and hateful speech is illegal. But his invocation of the dreaded specter of misinformation is especially concerning, given the current moral panic around the concept. As I've previously explained, an ever-expanding web of academic departments, quasi-governmental organizations, media watchdog groups, and publicly funded nonprofits have made it their business to police so-called misinformation on social media. Federal bureaucrats have encouraged content moderators to suppress speech—including jokes about elections. Government authorities frequently act as if they have the power to compel Americans to stop saying contrarian and satirical things about a range of political topics; sadly, they have often gotten away with it.

This is why Walz's misunderstanding about misinformation is important. With the Supreme Court having declined to prohibit federal agencies from jawboning social media companies, the next administration will have a relatively free hand to escalate the government's pressure campaign on disinformation. It's not an encouraging sign that the would-be Democratic vice president is fundamentally mistaken on a vital tenet of the country's free speech tradition. Maybe dad should learn something about the First Amendment?

 

This Week on Free Media

I'm joined by Amber Duke to discuss the media's love affair with Walz, a prospective Harris presidency crashing the economy, and Justice Neil Gorsuch's interview with CBS.

 

Worth Watching

House of the Dragon wrapped up its second season, and I confess myself…disappointed.

To be sure, the acting, writing, and world building are all top-notch. The show mercifully avoids the most vexing problems of late-stage Game of Thrones, in which the characters ceased taking actions that made sense at all. Nobody in HotD behaves contrary to their fundamental nature: The Greens and the Blacks are all busy scheming to thwart each other's designs on the throne, and the conflict never felt contrived or implausible.

That said, there just wasn't enough action. Scenes of various advisers counseling their respective monarchs on the minutiae of running the kingdom have always been among the strongest that both series had to offer, but there's simply too many of them—and not enough forward plot advancement. Prince Daemon's fever dream at Harrenhal is entertaining, and has some payoff, but the writers erred in stretching it out over five episodes. Similarly, Rhaenyra's attempts to recruit new dragon riders was one of the better arcs of the season, but by the time it was accomplished—in very satisfying fashion—we had already reached the end.

The finale's ending montage, in which various armies, fleets, and dragons are seen marching off to battle—a battle that won't be glimpsed for another two years—caused considerable groaning at the watch party I attended. We all felt cheated.

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  1. Think It Through   2 years ago

    Dad doesn't need to learn something about the First Amendment. The First Amendment bows to Dad. And Momala.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Also, those two are not smart people. It’s that simple.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      The fucking Democrats have really knocked it out of the park with these two. They’ve presented a contemporary, half-assed Barbara Boxer/Walter Mondale ticket that somehow lacks the formers’ warmth and charisma.

      1. ducksalad   2 years ago

        It was Geraldine Ferraro. Not that it makes a difference.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          He wasn’t comparing the 2024 democrat ticket with 1984. He was using those names as an analogy for the current ticket.

    3. B G   2 years ago

      Harris is the product of a CA Dem party machine which has contentions (in some cases downright hostile) stances on the 1st, 2nd, 4th, 5th, 6th, 9th, and 10th Amendments (they'd probably endorse a repeal of the 3rd if they figured out that forced quartering of troops might allow for significant reduction of the DoD budget without reducing the power of the Government). This is the same State Party establishment that's promoting Adam Schiff (the Joe McCarthy of his generation, in the flesh) from the US House to the US Senate in a process that they're not rigging beyond the primary because they managed to get him against a GOP opponent, meaning he could be the actual Joe McCarthy and the "D" next to his name will net him at least 60% of the general election vote; apparently the two "women of color" who the party leadership shoved aside in favor of Schiff weren't deemed to be hostile enough to the tenets of the US constitution to fill the shoes of a predecessor like Feinstein.

      If her prospective VP choice's biggest shortcoming in terms of the US Constitution is that he buys into his party's hype about the need for a "Ministry of Truth" or some similar contrivance, he's well ahead of the curve among the party/wing that he purports to be a part of.

  2. NoVaNick   2 years ago

    But he gives me a dad boner! And makes my panties wet at the same time!

    1. HorseConch   2 years ago

      It sounds like you need to learn to control your ladydick.

  3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

    He should have sent emails and threaten companies with regulations to censor of their own private company accord. Reason demands the veneer of private company choices.

  4. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

    "at the watch party I attended"

    People actually do this?

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Aka cocktail party.

  5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

    Why is anyone surprised by this? It’s been the foundation of their ideology for over 50 years:

    The whole post-fascist period is one of clear and present danger. Consequently, true pacification requires the withdrawal of tolerance before the deed, at the stage of communication in word, print, and picture. Such extreme suspension of the right of free speech and free assembly is indeed justified only if the whole of society is in extreme danger. I maintain that our society is in such an emergency situation, and that it has become the normal state of affairs.--Herbert Marcuse, "Repressive Tolerance"

    They gave themselves permission to do this decades ago. Walz is just taking it to its logical conclusion. And this is why these two idiots are going to provoke an actual civil war, because enough red states are going to push back against this kind of bullshit to make it a problem, and there’s nothing in Harris or Walz’s background that indicates they won’t try to use force to make those states comply.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      You can see this happening in the UK this week. You have had separate riots break out from immigrant populations and native populations. The government deplores the violence from the native population and cracks down hard on it being fueled by racism and hatred. The violence from the immigrant populations is treated with kid gloves and police scared of the rioters, the ethnic bigotry and hatred toward the native population is ignored or coddled.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        We're basically at the point where the entire west needs to break up. It's why I find the whole hand-wringing by the center-right about Russia to be so disingenuous--why should people fight for a regime that hates them and wants to see them humiliated and exterminated, especially now that those leaders have adopted Noel Ignatiev's demand that the "white race" and "whiteness" need to be destroyed?

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          If ‘break up’ means the native populations overthrow their leftists and cleanse them, then yes. That is exactly what needs to happen.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Everything is a crisis. And people who have been conditioned to think of themselves as victims are more inclined to agree.

  6. Rick James   2 years ago

    As I asked the question yesterday, I'll ask it again: If the veep candidate is nominally sort of ok (likely to change his position when climbing on stage with Randi Weingarten) on school choice, but shit on the first and second amendment, can libertarians strategically and reluctantly vote for Harris?

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   2 years ago

      TDS exhibits strange symptoms.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

        Let’s hope ot becomes fatal in 100% of acute cases.

    2. NoVaNick   2 years ago

      “Can libertarians strategically and reluctantly vote for Harris?”

      Good one!

    3. Zeb   2 years ago

      It will be interesting to see how this years "how will I vote" will go. With Biden I could imagine people closing their eyes and ears and convincing themselves he was a moderate, boring candidate. With Harris, that seems a lot harder to do. I won't be too surprised if some manage to do so anyway.

      1. NoVaNick   2 years ago

        No way you can make the case that Harris or Walz are or have ever been moderates.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Especially when you have idiots stating that they are in the range of "normal" compared to Trump.

          There's nothing "normal" about these idiots unless you live in a deep blue shithole.

        2. middlefinger   2 years ago

          But Walz loves the CCP and China. That’s enough to strategically and reluctantly…ummm

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        In my mind there’s a big difference between someone supporting a candidate and choosing what they perceive to be the lesser evil.

        1. NoVaNick   2 years ago

          If you believe the established media, everyone now adores Harris/Walz, not simply will vote for them because not Trump.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I've seen some of those articles. Doesn't make any sense. Is it one of those "Who would you rather have a beer with?" things? I don't get it. I find both candidates revolting.

          2. B G   2 years ago

            Any chance that the objective of the MSM (in their function as the propaganda arm of the DNC) is trying to make people forget that Harris is on the top of the ticket?

            It's not past imagination that the CNN audience could be brought to a point where the GOP's "October surprise" in 2024 will be that Kamala is actually the one running for President and Waltz is only going to be the VP... These are the people who overwhelmingly believed in November/December of 2020 that the hospitalization rate for Covid 19 was at or above 50% of all those testing positive (and they still though the fatality rate was around 5% of all infections; at that point, convincing them that cloth masks and 6 foot distancing were "saving lives" was pretty much a given.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          There’s definitely a qualitative difference.

        3. Minadin   2 years ago

          So, you're suddenly cool with my 'Republicans BAD, Democrats FAR WORSE' position? Because you weren't, 2 years ago. Or 4 years ago.

      3. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

        Reason is a libertarian magazine. But, it's also a supporters of the managerial technocracy. While I'm inclined to believe the two are fundamentally inconsistent, even supporters of the managerial technocracy have to at least acknowledge a tension between the two.

        When push comes to shove, a significant portion of the Reason staff will go with the managerial technocracy over liberty. Both their social position and their world view demands it.

        The corollary to all of this is that, even if Trump were to wake up tomorrow and become the perfect libertarian, the staff here would still be anti-Trump.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          But, it’s also a supporters of the managerial technocracy.

          That's just a fancy way of calling them Progressives, and I'm not seeing it.

          1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

            That’s just a fancy way of calling them Progressives…

            I understand the confusion, but no. All progressives are believers in managerial technocracy. But, not all believers in managerial technocracy are progressives. Most of Conservatism Inc. would be believers in managerial technocracy. And beltway libertarians. Essentially, the notion is that of near-unlimited ability of human ingenuity to ameliorate the human condition by means of the application of organization and human ingenuity. It fundamentally reduces the human to a problem and a resource, devoid of time, place, history or tradition (thus, rejecting not only “blood and soil”, but “God and country”). The progressives obviously favor government as the means of ingenuity and organization. But, much the same is accomplished with "the free market" as the technology and the corporate sector as the organizers.

        2. Rick James   2 years ago

          Reason is a libertarian magazine.

          Ah ah ahhh! I was told by our reliable act-blue commenters that Reason is NOT "doctrinaire" libertarian.

          1. B G   2 years ago

            Is there such a thing as a "doctrinaire" libertarian? People can't seem to eve agree as to whether individual sovereignty guarantees choice in regards to continuing or terminating a pregnancy or if the NAP prohiits "agression" against the unborn, even prior to the point of "viability" where the fetus is capable of actually being a "baby" and surviving outside the womb (assuming proper hygene and feeding)

        3. Overt   2 years ago

          I don't see that. What I see is that many of the writers would remain silent for a managerial technocracy (ie the promise of a 'better and smarter' government- as empty as that promise would be) if the alternative was supporting people to be free to be icky.

          That's why ENB did not support mask mandates, but instead said the best way out of the pandemic was to pressure people socially to wear masks. It's why Soave condemned DeSantis for prohibiting public school mask mandates. As far as they were concerned, Masking (a wonderful political litmus test) was supported by The Science! (tm) and so if people didn't listen to that, well we needed to do everything in our power to get them to choose better.

          1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

            But, the example you cite is still rule by the managerial technocracy. It’s just rule through a less direct technique than direct mandate by the state. The Right People(tm) manage the means of social discourse to produce the desired effects. And we saw in the pandemic how flimsy the line between state mandates and “direction from public-private partnerships” proved to be.

            By the way, how did you do that with the trademark symbol?

    4. B G   2 years ago

      School Choice isn't and probably can't be a Federal issue.

      If the Feds could regulate schools at that level, they'd have banned it when Clinton had both houses of Congress, or when Obama had both houses with a 60-vote supermajority in the Senate. Or they would have had the Joebot sign an EO attempting to ban it.

      Between these two choices, I'd be inclined to recommend that even swing state libertarians vote 3rd party as a vote against the binary paradigm of the Matrix. The only way to break the "two party system" is to convince the 2/3 of voters who claim they'd vote for "literally anyone else" that if they actually did that in November, they'd actually win, and that it's only their compliance (is there a game theory name for this kind of inverted "prisoner's dilemma" where if nobody snitches we might all go free?). Keeping the share for the "waste your vote" candidates increasing is the only apparent way to possibly convince the masses to come near the rabbit hole, since one of the few things that both "major parties" agree on is that anything (including ranked-choice) which loosens their grip on access to power is bad for both of them.

  7. swillfredo pareto   2 years ago

    To say the mainstream coverage of Walz has been fawning thus far would be quite an understatement

    The meretricious encomiums tell you nothing about the man, and everything about the media. It is entertaining watching institutions like the New York Times and CNN stomp on the accelerator and careen into irrelevancy.

  8. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"a one-man rejoinder to the idea that the Democrats are the party of the cultural and coastal elite."

    Minnesota has been full of communists since before Half-Pint and the rest of the Ingalls lived in Mankato.

    1. NoVaNick   2 years ago

      The guy was a public school teacher before, they have always been the strongest core supporters of the donkey party in any state.

  9. The Mysterious Edwin Dunkel   2 years ago

    #TamponTim

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Timpon

      1. MK Ultra   2 years ago

        A-Walz.

  10. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "With the Supreme Court having declined to prohibit federal agencies from jawboning social media companies ..."

    Government officials acting in their official capacities do NOT have "First Amendment" rights. They only have powers authorized by the Constitution of the United States of America - or that the Supreme Court of the United States refuses to deny them - so any unauthorized censorship (AKA "jawboning") they impose is unconstitutional to the everlasting shame of the Supreme Court.

  11. shawn_dude   2 years ago

    Not all speech is protected. We all know that. Defamation, Hatch Act violations, etc. In the context of Republicans misinforming voters about voting laws, locations, and dates in order to discourage legal voting, misinformation could be a crime or a tort.

    This is Reason.com, though, so taking him out of context in order to construct a partisan attack is expected.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Fuck off.

    2. Kungpowderfinger   2 years ago

      LOL, The Hair literally quoted him in context.

    3. Eeyore   2 years ago

      If a voter is low information enough to be tricked - we are all better off if they don't vote.

      Any law that contradicts the constitution is a violation of the constitution. There is a process to amend the constitution. Fuck off with your violations of civil liberties.

    4. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      In the context of Republicans misinforming voters

      So you're OK with Democrats misinforming voters?

      1. DesigNate   2 years ago

        It’s Shawn doooode. He’ll insist that they don’t.

        Pure as the driven snow, those Democrats.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

          Shawn is a pinko propagandist traitor. He belongs in a landfill with the rest of them.

      2. B G   2 years ago

        Since anyone voting for the first time pretty much has to have witnessed at least one or two previous elections (getting to naturalization from legal immigration has to take at least 4 years, even if it's supposed to take 18 months) at an age when they could be aware of what's going on, the heckneyed joke about one party votes on Tuesday and the other on Wednesday (which I've seen made by supporters of "boaf siiiides" over the years) is relatively harmless.

        Why would isolated incidents like that by people who generally don't have a broad reach be such a reason for getting into a twist while we just tacitly accept that virtually nothing said in any of the ads run by either campaign and repeated hundreds of times on every national media platform which sells advertisements (and now also worked into the "news" copy reported by cable/online outlets supporting those campaigns as well) has much connection to reality.

        Dems and their online activists want everyone to just accept that Vance once literally fucked a sofa because he wrote about it in a fictional novel. By that standard, why have Steven King, Dean Koontz, Clive Barker, and any number of other horror/mystery/thriller authors never been imprisoned after writing about everything from kidnapping to torture, to murder (if they wrote it, they must have done it, right)?

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          Be patient. That's coming.

  12. middlefinger   2 years ago

    Too late, headline on stock pages:
    “Palantir jumps on Microsoft partnership to sell AI to U.S. defense, intel agencies”

    Plus Dear Ol Tim doesn’t own anything. It’ll be easier to de kuluk or ration these greedy people that risk/invest or own something. Equal outcomes comrades!

  13. Eeyore   2 years ago

    Was wrong?
    Is wrong. Will always be wrong. Will continue to invent new wrongs.

  14. JohnZ   2 years ago

    With Kamaltoe and Tampon Tim in the White House, America will become another failed state, under a repressive tyranny that will make anything that came before it seem downright tolerant.
    The Second Amendment will be the first to be destroyed, followed by the First Amendment.
    Then followed by despotic rule.
    "If the freedom of speech be taken away, then dumb, like sheep, we may be led to the slaughter". Pres. George Washington.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      And democrats see this as a laudable goal.

      So the democrats have to go. There is no reason to tolerate their existence here.

  15. Ajsloss   2 years ago

    Regardless of what you think of Robby's opinion, his response to Amber's question at 5:02 of the second video made me LOL.

  16. Heraclitus   2 years ago

    Am I missing something? The quote above states, "There's no guarantee to free speech...". Doesn't the clause, "There is no guarantee" indicate that Walz understands that there is nuance? He's not saying everything he deems hateful or misinforming needs to be sanctioned.

    Reason seems to be overreacting itself. Is it not obvious that going around and telling people obvious false information about voting with the intent of limiting their votes should be something we prohibit? That's hardly the freedom our founders had in mind. And this was one little reference to hate speech. He did not spell out what was included in his definition of hate speech, just that he does not guarantee that your hate speech will not be limited.

    I get that Reason needs to be contrarian and add to the conversation, but shouldn't they do a little more homework?

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      If it is "obvious false information" then no one will believe it.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      "There is no guarantee to _________" is simply giving themselves permission to take away what they want to take away.

      There's no guarantee to abortion, either, but I bet your side isn't so keen to agree to limitations on that.

  17. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   2 years ago

    Tim Walz does not believe in free speech unless the speech is his.

  18. Uncle Jay   2 years ago

    The democrat party has moved so far to the left that they resemble Hilter, Stalin, Mao, Pol Pot and Castro especially when it comes to the 1A.
    The democrats now consider any and all criticisms of them and their policies as "hate speech" and want to squash it as soon as possible. But as Harry S. Truman once said, "If you can't take the heat, then get out of the kitchen."
    The hypersensitive snowflakes in the democrat party need to get out of the kitchen.

    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   2 years ago

      Democrats should get out of our country.

  19. CopaGent   2 years ago

    The more we learn about Timmy the worse it gets. The Progressives picked a real winner if it is a dictatorship that they want.

  20. MJBinAL   2 years ago

    Tim Walz Was Dead Wrong About Misinformation and Free Speech

    Damn, I got all excited when I could only see the first line of the title and misread it as Tim Walz is Dead.

    Wishful thinking I suppose.

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