The 9/11 Plotters Should Have Been Found Guilty in a Real Court
War on Terror fears and the CIA’s torture program kept Khalid Sheikh Mohammed out of civilian courts—and prevented true justice from being served.

Khalid Sheikh Mohammed and two other Al Qaeda members behind the 9/11 attacks pleaded guilty to 2,976 counts of murder, U.S. military prosecutors revealed in a letter to 9/11 victim families on Wednesday. In exchange, the 9/11 plotters will escape the death penalty. The letter called the plea deal "the best path to finality and justice in this case."
Mohammed and his accomplices were first taken into U.S. custody in 2003. There was little doubt of their guilt; Mohammed admitted to plotting the attacks to a TV reporter a year before his capture. So why was a plea deal in a shadowy military court more than twenty years later the best that the U.S. government could do?
It was a self-inflicted problem. Rather than letting law enforcement handle a massacre on American soil, President George W. Bush had the suspects rounded up into secretive torture prisons, forever tainting the evidence. No court would admit torture-derived confessions—and any statement made after the torture could also be challenged by lawyers. After all, several known innocents have also confessed under torture.
When the Obama administration tried to put Mohammed on trial in New York, the scene of his crime, politicians from both parties helped stir up public outrage. Congress passed a bipartisan law preventing Al Qaeda suspects from being moved to the U.S. mainland. Instead, Mohammed and other defendants were tried by a Guantanamo Bay military tribunal that delivered neither fairness and transparency nor swift justice. It was the worst of all worlds.
The relatives of many victims felt blindsided by the plea deal.
"There's a sense of betrayal amongst the 9/11 family members right now," Brett Eagleson, president of the nonprofit 9/11 Justice, told SpyTalk, a Substack focused on national security. "We weren't consulted in any way on what was going to be happening down in Guantanamo."
The 9/11 plotters' guilty plea was one of many missed opportunities for closure on the War on Terror. After killing Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden, the Obama administration could have declared victory and begun the process of moving on. Instead, he promised endless war.
"His death does not mark the end of our effort," President Barack Obama said in his announcement of bin Laden's death. "There is no doubt that Al Qaeda will continue to pursue attacks against us. We must—and we will—remain vigilant at home and abroad."
This "vigilance abroad" meant war against an ever-shifting alphabet soup of Islamist rebels, most of whom had nothing to do with 9/11 and some of whom didn't exist when the War on Terror began. The American public was left confused about what they were even fighting for or against. As Rep. Sara Jacobs (D–Calif.) pointed out at a hearing last year, even the list of groups that the U.S. government considers to be "Al Qaeda affiliates" is classified.
Meanwhile, the constant feeling of siege corroded American domestic politics. Counterterrorism became an excuse to militarize the police. Obama-era defenses of drone strikes were recycled into anti-immigrant conspiracy theories. Concerns about "radicalization" and "extremism" were used to push for online censorship.
"The same tools that destabilized foreign countries were bound to destabilize America," wrote journalist Spencer Ackerman in his 2020 book, Reign of Terror. "Experiencing neither peace nor victory for such a sustained period was a volatile condition for millions of people."
All the while, it was easy to forget that the people who sparked all this fear to begin with—the perpetrators of 9/11—were either dead or behind bars.
Perhaps Bush and Obama's decisions are understandable, if not excusable, because the trauma of 9/11 was still so raw. But those decisions prevented this wound from ever healing. Two decades on, the closest thing to "finality and justice" is a sad, quiet compromise.
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Need to Epstein him.
After killing Al Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden...
You're still buying that story?
Ah, I see even Reason allows debunked 9/11 conspiracy theories.
I know you may be upset about this, but it’s still a free country.
He’s jealous that Maduro is the one building reeducation centers, and not The Party.
There was a theory that Reagan, Holy War Bush and G Waffen Bush can send the DEA, CIA and P.I.G.S. into other countries to rob, shoot and kidnap people, and that the natives must kowtow to the pukka sahibs and apologize for all their shortcomings. If that's the theory chuckpuppet holds dear, General Turgidson could add a pithy observation: "I would say that Mohamed Atta, Marwan al-Shehhi and Ziad Jarrah have already invalidated that theory."
CHARLIE HALL!
Fly them home and let them go.
Or just load them onto shipping containers and send them back by sea.
They got lost in a tragic boating accident.
It should have been a real court, but it should have been a real Military Court. The US should have followed international conventions which say:
1) Enemy combatants will be detained humanely until cessation of hostilities, at which point they will be returned to their home country for repatriation.
2) Combatants suspected of war crimes may be given a military tribunal by their captors. They will then be punished in accordance with that tribunal's decisions.
Pretty much everyone at Guantanamo was subject to #2. The taliban and OBL followers committed pretty much every war crime- small to large. They didn't dress in distinguishable uniforms; they targeted civilians; they shielded their military bases with civilians; they did not establish or follow chains of command.
Mind you, most of those at Guantanamo wouldn't WANT option #2, because the end result for 90% of them would have been a swift execution. But that would have been the right thing for the US to do, rather than hold these people indefinitely for diminishing returns in intelligence or negotiating chips.
I don’t mind if those guys are suffering.
They weren’t really tortured. What I would do to them would be real torture. Not lame coercive crap like waterboarding.
It ain't exactly torture if after its over you towel off some Poland Spring and don't even need a Tylenol.
Defitomotley not in the same league as using some razor blades to make hundreds of superficial shallow cuts across their whole body, then sprinkling a bag of salt on them. Followed up with some rubbing alcohol (Can’t let them get infected. That could risk a premature end to all the fun).
^This
The writer is apparently retarded since they are unaware that, say, the NYPD doesn't have jurisdiction in, say, Iraq.
Not that it really matters, since no matter what court they ended up in death or permanent incarceration was the only acceptable result.
Also, putting them in prison forever probably wouldn't last that long since even hardened criminals find them disgusting and probably would have had a shiv party in the shower. I doubt these guys would have lasted as long as a pedophile in general population.
The author makes a good point- that our interrogation of them was against international accords. That made any prosecution- military or civilian- very difficult. I understand why the Bush administration did what they did (these terrorist cells thrived on their understanding of international accords, an exploiting them for asymmetric gains), but it was still wrong. When these people were captured, they should have been swiftly processed.
That said, holding them at Guantanamo alone was not against the accords. It was a POW camp. That is what international accords require when you capture a prisoner of war- incarcerate them humanely until peace is declared, then return them to their country. The problem is that the Bush administration wanted their military intelligence. And their "Enhanced Interrogation" techniques were both immoral and against international law.
I definitely agree that torture of any kind was disgusting and almost certainly valueless, which I think history has shown pretty well.
I just don't see how a civilian court was by any measure a proper avenue. We certainly don't import foreign combatants to stand trial in New York. Hell, we didn't even capture American nationals overseas for trial. Obama just took them out with a missile instead.
Expecting better for foreign combatants when we don't even treat our own citizens that way is pretty absurd.
"The writer is apparently retarded since they are unaware that, say, the NYPD doesn’t have jurisdiction in, say, Iraq. "
9/11 happened mostly in New York and the state of New York does have jurisdiction to judge anyone involved in the attacks. Whether it would be practical or not is another question.
"I doubt these guys would have lasted as long as a pedophile in general population." This kind of terrorist should never be put in the general prison population: not only their security would be at risk but also everyone else (we don't want them to gain supporters in prison or communicate with the external world).
They aren’t legitimate enemy combatants under the Geneva Convention. They should have been taken out and shot as soon as they outlived their usefulness.
"Mind you, most of those at Guantanamo wouldn’t WANT option #2, because the end result for 90% of them would have been a swift execution"
Many of them want to be executed and die as "martyr".
Then again, carting the Army Of God Trumpanzista traitors who attacked the Capitol off to Gitmo for processing could drain belligerence from another brand of mindless violent mystics. Copycat Trumpanzistas who vandalized expensive buildings in Brasília are lining up to beg for political asylum in anarco-Trumpanzista Argentina. Violent MAGAts might do well to renew passports and stop by the Argentine Embassy for a visa form--on their way back from breaking someone else's windows.
Boots on the desk = death sentence.
Hank loves him some authoritarian Marxism.
Let's not forget, Hitler was also a Leftist.
True. Leftists like Hank, Jeffy, Sarc, Molly, Shrike, etc. don’t like when that’s pointed out.
Hitler was a Catholic Jesus Freak. Everything he wrote, from the 25 points program through Mein Kampf--and his myriad speeches--all bristle with biblical homilies, parables, quotes, stories, hagiography and sermonizing. He often quoted Ghawd as Providence and Jesus as The Nazarene. Yet Germany contained a larger Lutheran (Sword of Christ, Death to Jews) than Catholic population. But nobody claims the remaining 3% were libertarian. Left and Right are what International Socialists and Christian National Socialists call each other. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2022/12/03/hitlers-christianity-from-nobeliefs-com/
You just wrote a bunch of babbling bullshit, as usual. Then you link your own wacko website. You know you’re considered a joke here, right?
Depends on whether terrorism is a criminal or military issue. The NYPD didn't arrest him and lacked the reasources to do so. Once the military stepped in criminal due process rights go out the window. If not, everybody killed in air raids, drone strikes, artillary barages etc would have standing in court, enemy or civilian. Should of just splashed him with saturation bombing from a B52 and be done with it.
9/11 is the second best thing that ever happened to MIC. The best thing is the complete inability to ever have a public discussion or accountability about anything as soon as the word terrorist or terror is uttered.
Military commissions are real courts.
https://reason.com/volokh/2024/08/01/today-in-supreme-court-history-august-1-1942-5/
>>So why was a plea deal in a shadowy military court more than twenty years later the best that the U.S. government could do?
did anyone ask See Eye Aye?
Because the people involved weren’t soldiers in the sense of being government employees who would stop fighting upon their employer’s surrender, I don’t see how traditional military rules apply. However what they did went way beyond organized crime.
Either way what was done to them was horrible by any standard.
Traditional military rules could apply, but not in a way those "people involved" would have liked. As you say, they would not fight according to the Rules of War. And so by applying traditional military rules to them, we would expect to see them tried and convicted of war crimes, with very harsh consequences.
In my reading of the time period, there were two types of soldiers being captured in Afghanistan. The Taliban soldiers pretty much followed the rules of war- they war distinguishing apparel, fought in standup conflicts and surrendered when told to. Yes, their units also were very brutal to civilians, but the individual soldiers tended to follow the rules of war, more or less.
On the other hand, the al Qaeda fighters were pure bastards. They would fight to the bitter end, fake surrenders, plant bombs on civilians, all the nasty stuff. These were some of the hardest people to capture, and when they were captured, they were the ones ultimately sent to Gitmo for this quasi existence. I am pretty certain that every one of them was sent there and told "Look, here is what happens if we try you....Are you ready to go to trial?" And I am sure many of them decided to wait it out in detention rather than go to a tribunal.
The alQaeda fighters were also all from elsewhere. They were not Afghan. They came from all around the world to fight jihad. So of course that is not a traditional ‘rules of war’ type enemy. It is an insurgency and in this case an insurgency that develops in Muslim communities elsewhere and then morphs when the discontented move to a place where they can become an insurgency/guerilla movement.
Counterinsurgency and ‘hearts and minds’ stuff is very very poorly developed. Our experience of insurgency in the West is mostly conducted within a colonial mindset which has failed everywhere. But we do not even try to figure out a better approach. At core the reason we failed in Afghanistan is because we never figured out what we wanted to achieve there,
Similar theories were advanced by Teedy Roosevelt's Muscular Christianity to justify torture, mutilation and genocide of largely mohammedan Filipino freedom fighters as prohybitionist Americans replaced Spanish colonial oppressors. TR's Hague machinations machinations in 1907 defined resistance as terrorism and blessed Marquess of Queensberry murders. Teedy then bought influence enough to bully weaker countries into a Hague Anti-Opium Convention of 1912. This promptly sparked the Balkan wars as China barred purchase/imports of Balkan States opium. WW1 emerged from the resulting economic turmoil. https://libertariantranslator.wordpress.com/2016/12/19/germanys-herbert-hoover/
The 9/11 Plotters Should Have Been Found Guilty in a Real Court
Truer words never spoken. Why the government thought it couldn't venue, prosecutor and judge shop to get the conviction they needed is a sky-splitting mystery.
Because they went down the torture road. I'm convinced that's where Roberts get his desire for Presidential immunity from.
If they didn't have it, you'd think all those businesses that were shuttered during the prohibition would have sued the President or particular members of Congress, yet that did not happen then or now.
Here's a thought, why don't you go to any local lawyer and ask them about your case for suing George Bush (or members of Congress) over Medicare D since it materially harmed your tax rate. Best of luck!
Until Jul 1, Prez didn't have criminal immunity. Deal with it. Nixon tried to argue that he had criminal immunity. The SC rejected that argument 9-0 in US v Nixon. Nixon resigned two weeks later. Now the SC thinks Prez does have criminal immunity.
You seem to be talking about civil immunity which was dealt with by Nixon v Fitzgerald - and which was not the issue in Trump v US.
The most they should have gotten was a military tribunal along the lines of the one MacArthur convened in Japan after WW2.
I don't remember Timothy McVeigh getting a plea deal.
Christianity and its Islamic splinter cult have rejoiced in torture and death since Darkening Age reports by Pliny, roughly 77 years after the Resurrection of Lazarus myth. Since then the various superstitions have gleefully rejoiced in whipping, mutilating, stoning to death, burning and barbecuing each other at every opportunity, and brought these quaint customs to the New World as a Christianizing influence wreaked on slaves and native tribes. MAGA christians deny the Pear of Anguish and Breast Rippers the way Christian Nationalsocialists deny Death Camps.
Islam is a splinter cult of Judaism, not Christianity.
It’s all pops and buzzes to Hank.
You might want to pick up a history book (and no, Catherine Nixey doesn’t count).
You out your ignorance almost immediately: “have rejoiced in torture and death since Darkening Age reports by Pliny, roughly 77 years after the Resurrection of Lazarus myth.”
Bro. Christianity was still being hunted and persecuted at that time. You know the ichthys; the Jesus fish symbol? That’s a thing they used to subtly draw in the sand to identify themselves as Christians to other Christians. Because they couldn’t exactly go around announcing it without inviting a very quick death at the hands of Roman Authority. As was the fate of Jesus’ apostles who spread throughout the land to teach Christianity. Usually quite brutally.
Pliny, who you namedrop despite apparently having no understanding of who he was or his role in history, expressly carried out the religious persecution of the early Christians, following Roman authority on the subject – usually executing them for no reason but being Christian. Even if they recanted and denied their faith.
It wouldn’t be for another couple hundred years when Constantine would make it safe and legal for Christians to exist and practice their faith openly. (And Islam wouldn’t show up on the scene until several hundred years after THAT.)
But yea, no, during the height of their persecution, they were the ones out causing all the harm and death. Riiiight.
Is LIB not the perfect illustration of how radical leftists project every sin, crime, hate, and prejudice they stand for onto those who oppose them? Let me guess – you deny the physical proof that Hamas puts rapes mothers to death in front of their children and babies in ovens and bakes them to death, but will accuse Israel of something very similar without any evidence whatsoever beyond your own hate and prejudice.
So they talk about the terrorist, but do not mention the random goat herders we nabbed and held because we couldn't tell the difference at the time. A handful of which were released in 2006 and hated us so much afterwards, immediately joined a terrorist group.
SecDef ain’t having it. Which is awesome.
Defense Secretary Revokes Plea Deal for Accused Sept. 11 Plotters - Defense Secretary Lloyd J. Austin III assumed direct oversight of the case and effectively put the death penalty back on the table.
https://www.nytimes.com/2024/08/02/us/politics/911-plotters-plea-deal.html
That may have been the right decision, but the way it was done was not.
(1) The US civilian courts were not capable of imposing the death penalty these people deserved. The mere attempt would have brought out every "human rights" organization in Europe caterwauling at ear-shattering level.
(2) Since life imprisonment is the best we can expect in any case, best to keep them where they are, after carefully investigating individual possibilities of innocence. That would reduce the possibility of hostile attorneys and rogue judges finding and leaking information that would put good lives at risk.