Trump's Favorite Justice Was One of Those 'Stupid People' Who Think Flag Burning Is Protected Speech
Antonin Scalia twice joined Supreme Court decisions rejecting bans on that particular form of political expression.

During a presidential debate in 2016, Donald Trump described the late Supreme Court Justice Antonin Scalia as a "great judge" and promised to "appoint judges very much in the mold of Justice Scalia." Trump may not have realized that Scalia was one of those "stupid people" who think flag burning is protected by the First Amendment.
Last week, as Reason's Emma Camp noted, the former president said people who burn U.S. flags (even ones they own) should go to jail. He was reiterating a position that he took in November 2016, a month after the debate in which he praised Scalia. "Nobody should be allowed to burn the American flag," Trump tweeted back then. "If they do, there must be consequences—perhaps loss of citizenship or [a] year in jail!"
Asked about the comment on CNN, Trump spokesman Jason Miller denied that such a policy would be unconstitutional. Flag burning "is terrible and it's despicable," Miller said. "It absolutely should be illegal."
In an interview with Fox and Friends last Wednesday, Trump likewise dismissed the argument that flag burning is a form of constitutionally protected expression. "You should get a one-year jail sentence if you do anything to desecrate the American flag," Trump said. "Now, people will say, 'Oh, it's unconstitutional.' Those are stupid people. Those are stupid people that say that."
Those "stupid people" include Justice William Brennan, who wrote the majority opinion in the 1989 case Texas v. Johnson, which rejected the prosecution of Gregory Lee Johnson for burning a U.S. flag during the 1984 Republican National Convention in Dallas. They also include Scalia, who joined that opinion along with Justices Anthony Kennedy, Thurgood Marshall, and Harry Blackmun.
Scalia took the same position in the 1990 case U.S. v. Eichman. That decision overturned the Flag Protection Act of 1989, which Congress passed in response to Johnson.
"We are aware that desecration of the flag is deeply offensive to many," Brennan said, again writing for the majority. "But the same might be said, for example, of virulent ethnic and religious epithets, vulgar repudiations of the draft, and scurrilous caricatures [all of which the Court had deemed protected by the First Amendment]. 'If there is a bedrock principle underlying the First Amendment, it is that the Government may not prohibit the expression of an idea simply because society finds the idea itself offensive or disagreeable.' Punishing desecration of the flag dilutes the very freedom that makes this emblem so revered, and worth revering."
Scalia later cited the flag-burning cases to illustrate how his textualist approach to constitutional interpretation sometimes led him to rule against his personal inclinations. "If it were up to me, I would put in jail every sandal-wearing, scruffy-bearded weirdo who burns the American flag," he said in a 2015 speech. "But I am not king."
Scalia's distinction between what the Constitution requires and what he might otherwise prefer probably would be lost on Trump, who seems to value freedom of speech only to the extent that it protects him and his allies.
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A different angle for the same attack that will be repeated dozens of times before the election here.
We agree that Trump is wrong. Some of us also agree with him that some respect should be given to our nation's symbols and founding principles.
You can safely burn your own flag on your own personal property. The actions we keep seeing that spur such comments are already done in an illegal manner. The expression is permitted, but the damage to property and possible danger to others isn't
Most of us see the flag thing as a distraction from the police not arresting violent democrat protestors.
Yeah, that really should be the topic, but you know, mostly peaceful and all that.
Maybe wrap a protester in the flag and then burn them?
It’s so hard to keep up with all the shrill leftist bullshit lately.
Yes let's recall that the flag being burned was public property that was pulled down from a flagpole as part of a larger act of wanton vandalism.
I agree,I salute the flag every time I go by one.But if some fool is burning his own flag I just ignore them.
You forget, sullum is an evil retarded subhuman cancer. His mom's biggest regret is having sex
He really is an argument for abortion. Jeffy, Sarc and Boehm too.
I don't see a lot of "agreeing that Trump is wrong" below your comment.
I do see a lot of pretending Trump didn't say/mean/think/emote what he actually said (and had also called for in 2020, so no, his 2024 remarks weren't just about Hamas protesters stealing government flags and burning them).
But, thanks for interpreting MAGAspeak for everyone else!
https://x.com/Lukewearechange/status/1817982187540734321?t=tkC8SaUp25aDFC3BKpgnoA&s=19
So let me get this straight. The police were building a perimeter around the building that they knew there was a gunman on,
and they still decided to have Trump on stage during this whole process as the building overlooked where Trump was speaking
[Video]
Read some of the comments. There are people who say the whole thing was staged.
Yeah, ripping down an American flag, replacing it with a Hamas flag, spray painting the monument, and then burning the American flag is protected speech. Someone beating the ever-loving shit out of the perp should be protected counter protest. No need for government involvement.
Set fire to one of those fag rags and see what it gets you.
Didn’t rtfa, but the flag in question was federal property. Burning flags that don’t belong to you is not protected speech.
But "property" (public and private) belongs to all of us. So said my social(ist)ology professor. And the mystery gender barista fattie at the totally non-corporate coffee shop.
Funny, but that’s the same argument used to say people without papers are trespassing. Glad to see you realizing how much in common you have with the far left. Partisan politics isn’t a straight line. The ends curve back and eventually touch each other, making Trumpanzies like you and the leftists you hate indistinguishable on so many levels.
The far left supports unfettered border crossing into a welfare state like you do...
Weird.
While you claim all non-white immigrants are leftists because it's in their blood, just as all gays are leftist for the same reason. But you're not a bigot. Noooo. You can just accurately gauge what strangers think and believe based upon their nationality and sexuality. That's not bigoted.
So many deliberate falsehoods in a single paragraph.
Well done
He became best buds with Lying Jeffy, now he just lies a lot.
He has become a raging identitarian leftist. It is all he has left.
And there you go with pure lies yet again. Please cite one example. I can cite mine.
You have no concept of citizenship you globalist open borders drunk fuck.
But Trump didn't say you should get a year in jail for destruction of public property, or comment on the constitutionality of such laws, he addressed flag burning generally, regardless of who owns the flag being burned.
You've just come out as a leftist ha ha ha! Only leftists take him at his word. You're supposed to say he didn't mean it he meant something else, or look at what he does not what he said, or defend him by saying Democrats did it first. But saying he's wrong? That's leftist. You're a leftist now. Ha ha!
Poor sarc.
Do you think sarc ever had a personality of his own that just got consumed by this caricature, or was he like one of those blank robots from Futurama until he downloaded TDS?
He was more just a goofball who told bad jokes before we broke him.
Pour Sarc indeed. I wonder how often he gets the shit beaten out of him at the bar when he runs his mouth?
In which case he’s wrong. Personally I’m more concerned, as Jesse and I noted above, that the incident in question resulted in unequal treatment under the law for riots based on political affiliation than Trump bloviating about something that will never happen.
Destroying public property is punishable.
Yes, it's already quite illegal.
Trump is just pandering to his audience-of-the-moment. He knows they're just marks to be exploited for his own purposes, and if there are any ignorant enough not to know that what he's calling for is unconstitutional, he hopes they'll believe that he can punish their enemies appropriately by calling for new laws--and they'll vote for him to achieve that. Or at least send him money.
Yes, and?
I can agree and disagree with someone on different topics, and like and dislike things about that same person.
Nonsense. You're supposed to judge the person, not what they say. So if someone says something you disagree with, you disagree with them. Not what they said. It's all about the who, not the what. That's why the Trump faithful are attacking the author, flailing at strawmen, or claiming he meant something else. The ones saying he's wrong have outed themselves as leftists.
But we always post what you said. Meanwhile you continue to claim you never said it. Weird.
Youre the one who openly says he won't read links and want to disagree with people solely based on who they are. Need the links?
Get a life.
Like yours? Being a broken ass drunk that does nothing but screech at strawmen?
We get it. You despise accountability. Just like every other democrat.
Was that a yes?
The Don has admitted he was wrong on numerous occasions and probably will do it again on this subject
Trump's wrong on this one. But, I don't think you need flag burning laws to punish the offenders. As we've seen with the prosecutions of the January 6 defendants. And the staffers at the august publication seemed largely sanguine about that. So, I guess there are no civil liberties violations.
Got 'eem! - Sollum (having little to celebrate at the moment)
So fucking what? Sullum you have become a clown.
Do you mean like a Democrat?
Sticking with your resident idiot Emma's narrative on the whole thing, huh Jake? Do you not realize that she's like special needs retarded?
Or is the retarded narrative decided FOR you idiots, and you just do up a few hundred words echoing the chamber for a paycheck?
You know, if I had to choose between a blowhard who speaks wildly at times and is willing to violate 1A with a specific protection for a national symbol, and a nitwit who is willing to violate 1A (and 2A, and just about whatever Constitutional and other legal fundamental) in order to advance a socialist-nanny state, I might just have to vote strategically and reluctantly.
That’s right. Perpetuate the duopoly. Defend Trump. Shit on the Constitution. Better than voting for a homo.
Still using leftist identity arguments as your sole defense of Chase. Weird.
First off, the "homo" isn't getting elected dogcatcher no matter how any of us votes. So, the only real question is whether sending a particular message is worth the less preferred duopoly candidate winning the election. Secondly, the "homo" has consistently supported the establishment narratives to justify violations of liberty even if he demurs at the violations themselves. So, I'm not even getting a particularly useful message for that trade-off.
So, the only real question is whether sending a particular message is worth the less preferred duopoly candidate winning the election.
Unless you’re in a state where the outcome is a forgone conclusion. Then sending a message is the right thing to do.
Secondly, the “homo” has consistently supported the establishment narratives to justify violations of liberty even if he demurs at the violations themselves.
I’ve listened to more than a few interviews with the guy, and I’m not hearing it. Can you enlighten me, or is this just something that is known. After all, he’s gay. That means that he’s genetically a pedophile and a Democrat. If you say he's not then you're a leftist. At least according to these comments.
Unless you’re in a state where the outcome is a forgone conclusion. Then sending a message is the right thing to do.
Are you sure this is what you were trying to say? Or were you drunk by the time you wrote this? It's particularly in a state where the outcome would be a foregone conclusion that making a statement would have a higher payoff than voting for your preferred duopoly candidate.
I think that's what he said.
Sorry but a man who is so completely bought into demonstrably false tyrannical narratives that he flamboyantly wears a rainbow mask signalling his virtue and stupidity while banning non believers is not libertarian. Period.
Has he actually said any of this, or is it just obvious because he's gay and used to be a Democrat?
You seem hyper focused on his sexuality.
Awe, sarc’s got a crush. How cute.
Yes. It was listed in his prior campaign website. I’ve given you and Jeff the links multiple times to news articles about it. He changed his website but never countered his prior views. He removed it to hide the facts he holds dear. But you prefer narratives instead of facts.
That's a step.
Yeah Scalia was a great defender of 1A. Trump appointee ACB just took a big shit on it this term. You just can't trust these people. That's why we need term limits or something.
His Holiness Pope Reagan appointed RBG, the most evil Justice ever.
Carter appointed her to COA, Clinton appointed her to SC.
I've never gotten people who want to prohibit flag desecration. The message that allowing it sends is "America is so powerful and its government is so legitimate that it isn't scared to let some loser destroy its symbols." Being scared of being symbolically disrespected sends the message that you are a pathetic weakling who is afraid of their own shadow.
Issue is that little problems, left unchecked, snowball into big ones. (Rudy Giuliani acutely understood this about NYC crime.)
First we’re burning flags, then we’re defacing monuments, then we’re renaming long-standing institutions, then we’re tearing down and replacing statues, then we’re rewriting history books, and then we go full crazy and smoke a bunch of crack and pretend that America started in 1619.
What’s next? Pissing on the graves at Arlington?
I mean, where’s it stop? This is the problem with the Left in general. If you give a mouse a cookie.
Did you copy your rant from an Internet page about the "slippery slope" fallacy?
No. The slippery slope is real.
A logical fallacy, yes - but we're not doing a logic problem. We're looking at an empirical series of cascading events, each worse than the last.
Maybe go read If You Give A Mouse a Cookie.
The "problem" is obviously worse if you have no principles, and just live by your feelz...
And what principle exactly are you advocating when you encourage cultural self-destruction in the name of temporary (and often mistaken and ill-conceived) outrage?
Seriously, here: https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0060245867/reasonmagazinea-20/
It’s like $10. Just go get it.
I think the line is pretty easy to draw. Damaging or defacing property that isn't yours is over the line. Burning a flag should be subject to the same restrictions as burning any other piece of cloth. If it's not yours or you aren't in a safe situation for burning stuff, you are over the line. No need to mention flags at all.
**TRUMP!!**
Now, vote for Harris, the VP of the guy who actually violated the constitution multiple times to buy votes with student loan money.
Jacob Sullum, even though Trump is not the optimal choice and is somewhat scattershot, a direct comparison between him and Kamala Harris, there is zero doubt that Trump is a far better and far more stable choice. Trump is still a bad choice, but Harris is a far worse choice.
Or vice versa.
I would have vastly preferred a decent Republican to vote for, but nooooooooo... You fucked around, picked Trump and let him re-make the Republican Party in his image. Now you're stuck with it.
But there are like 3 decent republicans with any national prominence and no one seems interested.
Hopefully, they like losing.
The US government is one of the more corrupt organizations on the planet. It is difficult to refrain oneself from showing an amount of contempt for it that is equal to that government shows towards the people.
If I burn a "Palestinian" flag, would that be free speech or grounds for crucifixion?
Your own "Palestinian" flag, or someone else's?