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Supreme Court

Biden Now Wants To Force Others To Retire Too

Plus: Vance's anti-Trump emails, Venezuelan elections, toxic masculinity discourse, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 7.29.2024 9:30 AM

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Joe Biden vs. SCOTUS: President Joe Biden, who is no longer seeking reelection following a scandal related to his decline in cognitive fitness, has decided to use his last gasps of both vigor and presidential power to attempt to institute term limits for Supreme Court justices.

He is expected to unveil this slate of proposals publicly at an event in Texas later today. Biden will likely "argue that the current system of lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices gives a president undue influence for decades," reports The New York Times. "He will propose a process in which a president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years on the bench."

Biden has very little chance of actually being able to get this through. Reforming the Court in such a manner would be controversial, and it would require congressional approval. Without greater Democratic control of Congress, Biden has low odds of being able to pass such a thing. But legal challenges or unfeasibility, as made evident by his work on student loan forgiveness, doesn't mean he won't try. More to come once the proposal has been announced.

"Now that I have honorably limited my government service to just 51 years, I think the proper limit for a position that is supposed to be lifetime should be 18 years. Rules start NOW!" https://t.co/lt5ENXgE0H

— Mary Katharine Ham (@mkhammer) July 29, 2024

What J.D. Vance believed: "He's just a bad man," J.D. Vance wrote of Donald Trump, years before the presidential candidate picked Vance as his running mate. "A morally reprehensible human being."

Texts and emails between Vance and Sofia Nelson, a transgender classmate of his at Yale Law, have now been published in The New York Times. Dating from roughly 2014 to 2017, they show Vance as sane and reasonable in private correspondence, treating his friend humanely and politely as their gender identity shifts. The younger Vance's disapproval of Donald Trump is not news, but some of the other views he expressed—such as "I hate the police"—may come as a surprise to Vance's fans today.

Following the protests and riots that followed the death of Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, Vance told Nelson: "I love the body camera movement, and anything that puts cops back in the mindset of service and protection instead of control and coercion. I hate the police. Given the number of negative experiences I've had in the past few years, I can't imagine what a black guy goes through."

"There have always been demagogues willing to exploit the people who believe crazy shit," he wrote in 2015, expressing concern about a perceived rise in Islamophobia as Trump was ascending. And, following then–Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton's "basket of deplorables" comments, Vance wrote: "I'm trying very hard to deal with people in a way that persuades them and changes the conversation…the best way to help the race issue is to try to persuade. The more white people feel like voting for trump, the more black people will suffer."

The two friends reportedly had a falling out in 2021, which has seemingly motivated Nelson to leak the messages. According to a spokesman, Vance "has been open about the fact that some of his views from a decade ago began to change after becoming a dad and starting a family, and he has thoroughly explained why he changed his mind on President Trump."


Scenes from New York: The city's average daily hotel room rate is $318, "the highest for any major U.S. market," reports The Wall Street Journal. Of the existing hotel stock, about 30 percent of the city's total rooms are in nonunionized hotels, which a new bill seeks to regulate, making it impossible for such establishments to contract out food, housekeeping, and the like. Regulations like these would drive up hotel room prices in a city with a tourism market that may not be able to bear it.


QUICK HITS

  • Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has been declared the victor of Sunday's election there, despite disputes over who actually received the most votes.
  • It turns out talking about toxic masculinity for years on end and acting like straight white men are the problem doesn't make those people want to vote for you.
  • A really interesting thread on whether voters have qualms about voting for minority women. (Spoiler: They don't, but the media apparently has an issue with reporting these findings.)
  • Donald Trump claimed this past weekend that he would commute the sentence of Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht if reelected president.
  • Watch this speech from Minnesota Gov. Tim Walz:

One effect of Joe Biden stepping back in the race is that even though we're not getting the full mini primary, there is suddenly a lot of attention being paid to Democrats who are just much much much much better at delivering bite-size talking points about progressive politics https://t.co/fjTx3kHDIG

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) July 28, 2024

  • School choice would solve pretty much all of the toxic elements of this discourse:

I also get really irritated by "you should send your kids to bad public schools because people like you doing that is what makes them into good public schools". I'm willing to make a lot of sacrifices for my community. Wronging my kids isn't one of them.

— Kelsey Piper (@KelseyTuoc) July 27, 2024

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    ...decided to use his last gasps of both vigor and presidential power to attempt to institute term limits for Supreme Court justices.

    His handlers vs the Constitution.

    1. Mickey Rat   11 months ago

      When the Democrats lose power over some aspect of our government, then it is time to change the rules to compensate.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

        Democratic core concept number one: there are no rules that limit government.

      2. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        Ya, its worth noting that if the court was 6-3 with a progressive majority, putting forward term limits would be a threat to democracy and the constitution itself.

        But of course, this is (D)ifferent.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

          Reminder: Norm Ornstein, prominent conservative, proposed SCOTUS term limits back in 2014.

          https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/its-time-for-term-limits-for-the-supreme-court/371415/

          Reminder: Ted Cruz pushed for ‘retention elections’ for SCOTUS judges back in 2015.

          https://thehill.com/regulation/248872-cruz-calls-for-retention-elections-for-supreme-court-justices/

          Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) wants to amend the Constitution to subject Supreme Court justices to periodic public retention elections.

          “Much to my great disappointment, this past term the court crossed a line and continued its long dissent into lawlessness to a level I believe demands action,” he said during a Senate committee hearing on Wednesday.

          “The court today is not a body of jurists. It is not a body of judges following the law, but rather it has declared itself in effect a super legislature.”

          Gee, it’s as if neither team has any firm principle on the matter and only advocates for what is expedient in the moment.

          1. Idaho-Bob   11 months ago

            Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) wants to amend the Constitution

            Ted wants to amend the constitution.

            Is your boy Biden suggesting a constitutional amendment?

          2. CE   11 months ago

            Rotating 18-year terms for Supreme Court justices doesn't seem particularly partisan. One justice would be replaced every 2 years, which is 2 appointments per presidential term. It would take off some of the pressure to appoint the youngest judge you could find, and allow for older and wiser nominees.

            And winning a presidential election would have a direct and predictable impact on the ideological composition of the court, instead of a random impact based on when justices expire. As a Constitutional amendment, I don't see any reason why this shouldn't pass.

          3. DesigNate   11 months ago

            And what were the Democrats responses to those ideas?

            (I bet it rhymes with shmet to shmemocracy. Which was of course Mike’s point.)

            Also, a constitutional amendment vs. potus wanting to unilaterally change how the judges are sat isn’t even in the same ballpark.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      "The judges, both of the supreme and inferior courts, shall hold their offices during good behaviour,"

      I don't see anything about a term limit there.

      A better step would be to limit Rep and Sen to 18-years maximum combined terms.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

        Either way, one would need two-thirds of Congress plus three-quarters of the states to agree. Otherwise, term limits on either SCOTUS or Congress will not and cannot happen.

      2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

        The way I have seen it explained, is that if you creatively interpret that clause, it doesn't necessarily mean a lifetime appointment to the same office. So, according to this interpretation, a term limit on SCOTUS judges would be constitutional, provided that once the term is up, the judge would then have the opportunity to go to a different federal court.

        I think it is a dubious interpretation but that is what is out there.

        1. Ron   11 months ago

          its up to interpretation just like "shall not be infringed" is some how interperated as in ignore what it says

        2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

          Sure, if you “creatively interpret” anything as anything else, you can get any answer you want.

          Doesn’t jeff claim to provide well thought out commentary here?

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            He is a post modernist. Retards who convinced themselves saying nothing with hundreds of words is intelligent thought.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

              lol the only post-modernists around here are you and your tribe, with your socially-constructed "reality", such as:

              1. The COVID virus was definitely engineered in a lab
              2. Scientists knew back in March 2020 that it was definitely engineered in a lab and deliberately lied and covered it up
              3. Masks definitely don't work, not at all, 0% of the time, never ever work under any conditions ever
              4. The COVID vaccine is worse than COVID itself, for everyone, all people, all the time, no exceptions
              5. Biden absolutely had clinical dementia all the way back in 2018, everyone knew it, and were deliberately lying about it all this time
              6. Biden absolutely took bribes, it was definitively proven beyond any reasonable doubt

              should I go on?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

                Oh, let me follow up on this one:

                3. Masks definitely don’t work, not at all, 0% of the time, never ever work under any conditions ever

                3a. Scientists knew that masks didn't work, but pushed them anyway on everyone, as a form of social control and an exercise in sheer power.

                1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

                  You are just making yourself look even more foolish, if that’s possible.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

                  As you well know, your listed arguments have been dealt with in intelligent ways here, and not as the strawmen you are now presenting.

                  1. R Mac   11 months ago

                    I don’t call him Lying Jeffy for nothing.

                    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                      He has absolutely no problem repeating the same lies. Even immediately after his lies being debunked in the same space.

                3. Zeb   11 months ago

                  3a is true, but it was politicians (some claiming to be scientists) who pushed it for those reasons. Some of them probably believed what they were saying. But there was never any scientific basis for it. No one says that masks can't possibly ever stop a viral infection from being passed from one person to another. What we knew in 2020 and hasn't changed is that community masking makes no significant difference. We also know that even in surgery, wearing masks makes no significant difference to outcomes.

              2. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

                Look at that nice row of strawmen you have set up there.

                You growing crops and setting out scarecrows?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

                  uh huh, sure
                  tell us again how "masks don't work" and "everybody knew Biden had dementia in 2018"

                  1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

                    As said above, you know what you're doing. Im not going to rehash an argument we've kicked you around on 100 times, I dont have nostalgia for the COVID days, even if some of that was dunking on your bad arguments daily

                    These disingenuous strawmen might work in the Wapo comments or on Reddit, but there are people with above high school intelligence here. Save your tricks for first semester college freshmen.

                  2. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

                    Fauci didn't seem to think they did much.

                    Fauci wrote: "Masks are really for infected people to prevent them from spreading infection to people who are not infected rather than protecting uninfected people from acquiring infection.

                    "The typical mask you buy in the drug store is not really effective in keeping out virus, which is small enough to pass through material. It might, however, provide some slight benefit in keep out gross droplets if someone coughs or sneezes on you."

                    He added: "I do not recommend that you wear a mask, particularly since you are going to a very low risk location."

                    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                      Jeffy will keep repeating his lies no matter how many times they’re debunked.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

                      Don't forget that the lacrimal ducts in your eyes drain directly into your sinuses, which is the location in the body that they figured out immediately is the primary target for SARS CoV2 early in the infection, not the bronchia or lungs. A mask alone does not work to prevent infection in any significant way. Isolation of the at-risk population while allowing circulation among the low-risk to trigger natural immunities was always the best recommendation. Too bad they went political instead.

                  3. MT-Man   11 months ago

                    Biden wheelchair guy....

                  4. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

                    Regarding this: “everybody knew Biden had dementia in 2018”

                    Jeff, it’s interesting that you moved the goal posts back to 2018 instead of 2020… which is when the nomination and the election actually occurred.

                    Remember when Joe was making the “dog faced pony soldier” type comments, and challenging people to pushup contests?

                    Do those sound like a mentally healthy man, jeff? If your dad was doing shit like this, would you maybe, just maybe suspect dementia?

                    1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                      And that was just the tip of the iceberg even then. But Jeffy will lie no matter what.

              3. Minadin   11 months ago

                Most of those statements are factually accurate & provable, beyond a couple hyperbolic flourishes you added.

              4. CE   11 months ago

                Most of those seem pretty close to the mark, maybe not with 100% certainty, but more than likely, and more accurate than the leftist narrative.

                Item 4 I would say is pretty far off. The COVID shots were worth the risk if you were over 65 or had other health conditions that made COVID more problematic. For healthy young people under 30, accepting the small chance of side effects with 100% exposure to an experimental “vaccine” to counter the near-zero impact of COVID-19 that you might not catch anyway turns risk mitigation on its head. Yet schools and universities mandated the shots, ostensibly to stop the spread, which it turns out, the shots didn’t do.

                1. CE   11 months ago

                  I wouldn't say Biden clearly had dementia in 2018, but it was apparent in 2020 that something was wrong, and it wasn't going to get better with age.

                  1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                    Even 2019.

              5. DesigNate   11 months ago

                I bet you can’t cite one person saying any of those in that hyperbolic strawman way.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

                  Of course no one said those exact words. But what exactly do you think is the message being pushed when people like Jesse post story after story about masks 'not working', and story after story about some guy who got sick after taking the vaccine (without ever bothering to find out if the vaccine caused the guy to get sick, of course). Did Jesse or the others post ANYTHING positive, or even neutral, about masks or vaccines? No. That IS the message they wanted to push:

                  1. Masks don't work
                  2. The vaccine is worse than the virus

                  which are both FALSE STATEMENTS when evaluated from an objective point of view. But they don't push objectivity, they push their socially constructed reality as truth. They want you to reject the mask and reject the vaccine.

                  1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

                    God dammit boy, give it up.

                  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

                    1. Masks don’t work
                    2. The vaccine is worse than the virus

                    which are both FALSE STATEMENTS when evaluated from an objective point of view.

                    Except that it has been repeatedly demonstrated that masks had no discernable effect in preventing transmission of the virus and the vaccine has never been subject to rigorous testing to see if it poses fewer risks than the virus to the vast majority of the population at low risk. How is your evaluation of either statement as false in any way objective?

                  3. Minadin   11 months ago

                    Paper surgical masks don't work against airborne respiratory viruses. This has been established for a very long time, there are studies upon studies, even. We had epidemiologists telling us this weeks into the pandemic. I saw one doctor on YouTube demonstrating this for various mask types with a vape pen, in April of 2020 (when masks of any type were all still largely unavailable).

                    I saw one last week where they had done a study about their efficacy in an OR situation, and when the masks were removed, infection rates went down, possibly because people were more conscientious and deliberate about the risk of infection.

                  4. DesigNate   11 months ago

                    The official narrative, the one you and others pushed, was that masks stop the spread, and with the vaccines that they were safe and effective with no downsides, and if assholes would just voluntarily do it, the government wouldn’t have to force the issue.

                    They didn’t post anything positive because they were arguing against the official position. Why would you expect someone you’re debating to be like “I totally disagree with you, now here’s an article propping up your stance and pissing on mine.”?

              6. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

                Only if you want to go beyond full retard.

                I suspect you realize that you and your comrades are on record telling us that each of these things is absolutely impossibly totally untrue, and those saying so at the time had to be seditious liars seeking to overthrow the civilized world and kill grandma.

        3. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

          `And only ONE for birthday presents, you know. There's glory for you!'

          `I don't know what you mean by "glory,"' Alice said.

          Humpty Dumpty smiled contemptuously. `Of course you don't-- till I tell you. I meant "there's a nice knock-down argument for you!"'

          `But "glory" doesn't mean "a nice knock-down argument,"' Alice objected.

          `When I use a word,' Humpty Dumpty said in rather a scornful tone, `it means just what I choose it to mean--neither more nor less.'

          `The question is,' said Alice, `whether you CAN make words mean so many different things.'

          `The question is,' said Humpty Dumpty, `which is to be master-- that's all.'

        4. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

          Seems to match their creative interpretation of democracy.

        5. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          "if you creatively interpret that clause"

          Lol.

          1. R Mac   11 months ago

            Yeah, we call that lying. Lying Jeffy calls it creative interpretation.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              I wonder if Jeffy has a government job? Maybe something involving children?

              1. Minadin   11 months ago

                He may get a government paycheck, but I doubt it's for doing any work.

      3. tommhan   11 months ago

        18 years is too long. Maybe two 4 or 5-year terms.

        1. Minadin   11 months ago

          Good luck passing that amendment.

    3. damikesc   11 months ago

      Cannot fathom why a lamer-than-usual lame duck thinks he can do anything

    4. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/SaysSimulation/status/1817969170220499114?t=cREKshAnZ_es_IexwM0JGw&s=19

      Thinking about the first week of the Harris campaign, which is basically a huge wave of coordinated media propaganda - it's the most female presidential campaign I've ever seen.

      Not just the candidate - it's about gender, it's about race, about attitudes, about being a "brat"

      It's about the mean girls getting together and doing a little character assassination, attacking Vance & the other white guys as being weird, creepy incels. From a female perspective, it must be awesome.

      What it lacks is any semblance of substance, of logic, of debating the issues, or of proposing solutions to the greatest challenges the United States has faced in my lifetime.

      None of that is there. Just female group posturing, to gain popularity points while socially annihilating the competition.

      This nation is in very bad shape fundamentally in multiple areas

      Geopolitically, the US is losing around the world, fast, as the Ukraine war gets worse, the US is unable to protect sea routes, West Africa is lost, Venezuela threatens war in the hemisphere, and the Middle East threatens to blow up with the expansion of the war to Lebanon.

      Financially, the US is in rapidly worsening shape as it relies on the highest peacetime deficit spending in history to try to hold the economy together, as the national debt soars out of control, as BRICS+ membership surges around the world in an explicit attempt to dethrone the dollar.

      The borders are open.

      Half the nation thinks Civil War is likely.

      Yet, none of these issues matter, because let's face it - this has become the most gender dominated race in our history. Kamala doesn't understand this stuff, and has no solutions. Her female base doesn't care, because they don't understand it - or even care about substance - at all.

      Yay! Girl Power! We get all the money and good jobs! Forget about all those creepy incel white guys trying to talk about things that nobody cares about! Dance!

      As explored extensively in other threads, I believe that an economic reckoning is on the way when the reserve status of the $ is lost, the US can no longer borrow the money to pay for what the national standard of living is based upon, and standards of living plunge.

      One of the very hardest hit sectors of the economy is urban women getting paid way too much for doing very little.

      The Kamala voters are likely to be devastated. And it will be the right & proper result of their turning presidential elections into female popularity contests.

      1. JenK   11 months ago

        “From a female perspective, it must be awesome.”

        It is not.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Texts and emails between Vance and Sofia Nelson, a transgender classmate of his at Yale Law, have now been published in The New York Times.

    Can we spot the relevant detail here?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

      Skin color gender identity is the most important thing.

      1. Nardz   11 months ago

        https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1817909738987745505?t=-jobdHWSSAKhAA47sN7R-Q&s=19

        Remember when Google’s AI erased white people from history and they claimed it was a mistake?

        [Link: Meta AI says the Trump assassination attempt is a fictional event.]

        1. R Mac   11 months ago

          I like how you can type “assassination attempt of Trum” and google autofills Truman.

          1. Nardz   11 months ago

            It's amazing.
            Refuses to autofill anything that even hints at the July 13 assassination attempt on Trump

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

            Assassination of… Shinzo Abe, and Julius Caesar come up while orange man doesn’t.

            These guys are just transparently pathetic.

          3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            Oh it is worse. Meta AI calls the attempt fictional.

            https://x.com/mommapancakess/status/1817768480927609143

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Is "Sophia" a biological male who has adopted a female name as part of her "transition", or a biological female who insists on deadnaming herself just to fuck with us? The only photo I've seen of him/her suggests the latter is actually the case.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        He’s a guy who had his dick cut off. Daily Mail said he was a “transgender female,” which is MtF.

        1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          It's a vagina haver who declared herself to have no gender but dresses up like a man.

          Even progressives get confused by the retardation.

          1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

            Fuck off Buttplug, you demented old pedo, and stop socking as others.

            1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              Shrike is such a sleazy pedophillic piece of shit.

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

            When female no longer means female, communication about issues surrounding being female are no longer possible. SPB's goal is a world without individual identity.

        2. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

          Have you seen this picture of him/her? It's a pure male presentation:

          https://images.app.goo.gl/VfBmyVFPkeEzsmP48

          That's after law school (presumably), and sure looks FtM to me...

          1. Truthfulness   11 months ago

            What is a woman...?

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      The more the left comes out demanding Trump switch out his VP pick, the better it is.

      Even Schumer was demanding Trump choose a different VP. It is pretty telling.

      1. DesigNate   11 months ago

        But why are they asking him to change VP?

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          From the media narrative it is because JD is weird. That seems to be the argument.

          1. DesigNate   11 months ago

            That’s uh, an interesting tack for them.

          2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

            I have been there multiple times. People who don't like your influence in the workplace, but have no legitimate grounds to object go all passive-aggressive and take things completely out of context to paint you as weird and disruptive. Refusing to play the game is the proper way forward. The people whose opinions you should care about are not swayed by that bullshit.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

        “The choice may be one of the best things he ever did for Democrats. Now the president [Trump] has about 10 days before the Ohio ballot is locked in and he has a choice. Does he keep Vance on the ticket, where he already has a lot of baggage and probably is going to have more baggage…or does he pick someone new?”

        Withering “demands” sure being issued there!

        (And in response, Steven Cheung calling someone else an idiot…lofl.)

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland (5-30-24 banana republic day)   11 months ago

      I'm confused, so the time when Vance was saying he didn't like trump publicly is now news because he said the same thing in a text message at the same time?

  3. Moderation4ever   11 months ago

    Changes to justice's lifetime appointments may never happen but the discussion is a good one. I don't image the framers of the constitution ever imagined that the lifetime appoints could be so long as they are today.

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

      They couldn't have imagined that lifetime appointments would be lifetime?

      1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

        Life expectancy was 34.5 years is 1787. Not saying they should change it, but people sit on the court longer than the average person lived when the constitution was ratified.

        1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

          Life expectancy was low because many infants died. People still got old.

          1. Zeb   11 months ago

            And a lot of people were living basically at a subsistence level at the time. That was not the case for people who became supreme court justices.

            1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

              There were also less deadly pillow attacks on sleep justices then too.

          2. Idaho-Bob   11 months ago

            Funny how this is ignored when calculating averages.

            1. Zeb   11 months ago

              Life expectancy at birth and life expectancy at, say 10 years old are going to be very different.

              1. defaultdotxbe   11 months ago

                And likely different still when you look at it at the age one would be when they get appointed to the Supreme Court (and that doesn't even address the socioeconomic class difference between a potential justice and the average Joe)

              2. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

                https://mappinghistory.uoregon.edu/english/US/US39-01.html

                This chart only goes back to 1850, but clearly shows the stark differences in life expectancy for all births and life expectancy for people age 5, 20, etc.

                If you lived to 40, chances were very good that you would live a lifespan similar to current lifespans for people reaching age 40.

                “Boys who reached the age of 5 had a much higher average life expectancy than newborns, showing that many died before reaching the age of 5.

                If you reached age 5, chances were pretty good that you would live to 50 and beyond, it was easily a 20 year difference in life expectancy if you survived infancy.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

                  Yeah, one of the biggest reasons for the spike in life expectancy in the last 150 years has been the use of vaccines and mass inoculation against diseases that would normally reap a lot of kids under 10 years old--smallpox, measles, mumps, etc. Not to mention risk factors from accidents when surgeries and other medical care had only moderately advanced since the days of shamanism, "four humors," and other primitive nonsense. Premature infants also rarely survived, instead of being kept on incubators for weeks until they were developed enough to be let out of the NICU.

                  Being an infant or toddler prior as late as 1950 could be really fucking dangerous.

                  1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

                    one of the biggest reasons for the spike in life expectancy in the last 150 years has been the use of vaccines

                    Actually safe and actually effective with virtually no downside.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

            But not as many and as old. We have never had such a large portion Americans over 75.

        2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          Life expectancy was 34.5 years is 1787.

          When you took children under five out of the equation it wasn’t far off from what it is now.

          1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

            Most of the current justices would be dead without modern medicine. I'm looking at you Sotomayor and Thomas. People tend to forget the Russian roulette infections were in the pre-antibiotic days, not to mention fever reducers like asprin didn't exist until the late 1800s. People did live long lives, but it wasn't normal.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

              Hell, a large chunk of our Congresspeople and even Presidents would be dead without it.

              I'm not actually a fan of term limits, but I do think a maximum age limit of 75 needs to be considered. I don't really care how sharp someone *might* still be in their 70s, the reality is that while older people do bring life experience to the table, in a governmental situation they're really holding back the middle-aged generations from taking their proper role as leaders in society when they just sit in office for decades. Especially if they were lucky enough to be brought into office in their 40s or even 30s and just moistened a chair for 30-50 years afterward.

              If these people still have experience to provide and are lucid, let them retire and work afterward as consultants. But guys like Grassley, Biden, Pelosi, John Dingell, etc. who stay(ed) on way past their sell-by date aren't as indispensable to the nation's well-being as they think they are.

              1. Truthfulness   11 months ago

                “I will not make age an issue of this campaign. I am not going to exploit, for political purposes, my opponent's youth and inexperience.” - Ronald Reagan

                Term limits will mitigate the age issue anyways. No more than two terms in the Senate, and no more than a combined 18 years at Congress altogether.

        3. tommhan   11 months ago

          A lot of babies died then so it makes the lifetime back then sound bad when using averages. There were many older people, especially the richer people.

        4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

          Half the children died before 5, or something similar. The ones who survived live pretty long.

          Typical fucking statist liar. There's lies, damned lies, and statistics. STATISTics, got that? You miserable clown.

        5. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

          Jefferson died at 83. John Adams at 91. Franklin at 84.

          The idea that the founders couldn't anticipate people living a long time is absurd.

          1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

            The 1st six justices (not all died on the court) service:
            John Jay 6 years (died at 83 34 years after leaving the court)
            James Wilson 9 years (died at 55)
            John Rutledge 5 years (died at 60 5 years after leaving the court)
            William Cushing 20 years (died on the court at 78)
            John Blair Jr 5 years (died at 68 5 years after leaving)
            Robert Hanson Harrison declined the appointment due bad health and died at 44.

        6. CE   11 months ago

          Ages at death of first 10 Supreme Court Chief justices:

          John Jay, 83
          John Rutledge, 60
          Oliver Ellsworth, 62
          John Marshall, 79
          Roger Taney, 87
          Salmon Chase, 65
          Morrison Waite, 71
          Melville Fuller, 77
          Edward White, 75
          William Taft, 72

          Average age at bucket kicking: 73.1

    2. Idaho-Bob   11 months ago

      If the Justices actually tried to defer to the Constitution and not party politics, lifetime appointments wouldn't matter.

      Our latest DEI Justice doesn't know what a woman is.

      1. Ersatz   11 months ago

        'PRETEND' not to know.
        These justices are no different than the partisan politicians that nominate them. They dont believe in fidelity to the constitution if it would push back against their progressive agendas.

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        The process began to be politicized after the Democrat-run Senate stonewalled Reagan's nominees in 1988, which resulted in Kennedy being appointed as a compromise candidate.

        And even then, there were a lot of Dems talking about running out the clock and waiting until after the 1988 election to appoint a justice. That's why the whinging over Garland being cock-blocked from the court rings so hollow. I wouldn't be surprised if Cocaine Mitch had the Dems actions that year in mind when he did so.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Indeed. The democrats have always played dirty. Then they whine and cry when the tables are turned. The only reason they get away with that is because they have the media in their back pocket. Which must be taken away from them.

        2. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

          It was the attempted Bork nomination in 1987 that was the massive shift, if I recall correctly. Before that, as I understand it, there wasn't that much partisan opposition to a President's SC nominee.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

            That was part of it. Douglas Ginsburg was the next nominee, but it got leaked that he had smoked wacky tobacky and withdrew.

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      It will hardly matter if Trump manages to make voting no longer necessary.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        LOL, how the fuck would he do that? The Dems are already way ahead of the game there with their "ballot harvesting."

        1. DesigNate   11 months ago

          You don’t understand! He told a bunch of crazy Christians they wouldn’t have to vote again if he won this election! And we have to use the most uncharitable view of what he says every time, so obviously he meant he would eliminate elections!

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

            Not even his campaign people knew what the fuck he meant. There were at least four completely different explanations offered by four different people:

            Steve Cheung, seemingly still going with last week’s memo, decided to ignore all of Trump’s rather inconvenient “voting” words and claimed it was somehow Trump “talking about uniting this country”. (Uniting them in not voting anymore, presumably!)

            Chis Sununu called it “a classic Trumpism if you will.” (He’s right about that…) Sununu helpfully explained that the word “fixed” meant that the country could be “repaired”, rather than anything totally unhinged like “fixing” future elections to achieve a certain outcome. “Obviously we want everybody to vote in all elections, but I think he was just trying to make a hyberbolic point that it can be fixed as long as he gets back into office and all that,” Sununu said. (After which, people won’t have to vote anymore, for some reason. Think of all the time wasted voting–but not anymore!)

            Lindsey Graham offered that Trump was just trying to tell the Christian community that “the nightmare that we’re experiencing will soon be over, give me four more years and I’m gonna ride this ship called America and pass it on to the next generation.” (And no one serving on that ship will have to vote anymore on it…)

            And Tom Cotton went with the ‘ol, “when-all-else-fails-Trump-crazy-talk-explanation”, that Trump was “obviously making a joke.”

            1. Square = Circle   11 months ago

              There's also what he actually said, which was that he would institute electoral reforms like paper ballots and voter ID so that future election results can be better trusted.

              But why listen to what he actually said when one can hyperventilate about various ways to "interpret" what he said if you cherry pick out one line and strip away all context.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

                Brilliant! How, exactly, does that lofty notion equate to or even vaguely support the words Trump actually used? How do "electoral reforms" imply "not voting anymore". Do tell.

            2. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

              Question: When Biden, before the 2020 election, said on camera that “We have put together I think the most extensive and inclusive voter fraud organization in the history of American politics" did you form the opinion that Biden misspoke, or that he was admitting to all of the things MAGA would later accuse him of in the 2020 election?

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

                What do you think?

                You could look it up, and the answer would be obvious.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

      I agree that it is a good discussion to have, at least on an intellectual level.

      Thomas Jefferson wrote, “The dead should not rule the living.” With lifetime appointments of judges, we are inevitably ruled by judges who were appointed by presidents and senators long since dead.

      The original Constitution didn’t have any term limits for anyone, in part because the framers thought that “their class” would be the ones choosing the rulers among themselves, and why would they limit their own ability to make ‘wise’ choices by imposing term limits on themselves? That notion has long since passed with universal suffrage and modern mass media politics in general. So if we are fine with term limits for presidents, and we are open to the idea of term limits for Congresscritters, why not term limits for SCOTUS judges?

      And given the quasi-legislative nature of the modern Supreme Court in general, if they aren’t going to be held directly accountable to the voters like actual legislators are, then maybe it’s not a bad idea to put some type of check on their power.

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        “Things aren’t going my way, so the rules should be changed “.

        /jeff.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          As justified as his “since you won’t do what I think you should do, government is forced to make you” stances on items like welfare and covid.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

            Thank god we have a few libertarians like him and sarc to advocate for these things here.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

            Hey, let's talk about what my actual argument is instead.

            If libertarians/conservatives are ever successful at radically reducing or even abolishing the welfare state, and no one steps up to fill the void left behind and attempt to solve the problems that the welfare state was designed to solve, then it's inevitable that a coalition of voters will demand that the welfare state be reinstated to alleviate the suffering of all those poor people, and their demands will probably succeed.

            This is essentially the same argument that your crowd likes to make with "politics is downstream of culture". If the underlying culture does not support any political change you wish to make, then that change will likely not be enduring.

            But you know this, but are a stupid man who knows very little so you repeat attack lines instead.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

              Since your "actual argument" is written on sand, you can't really blame people for not knowing what to respond to, can you?

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   11 months ago

              ""If libertarians/conservatives are ever successful at radically reducing or even abolishing the welfare state, and no one steps up to fill the void left behind and attempt to solve the problems that the welfare state was designed to solve, then it’s inevitable that a coalition of voters will demand that the welfare state be reinstated to alleviate the suffering of all those poor people, and their demands will probably succeed.""

              Isn't that an issue for Congress not the courts?

            3. DesigNate   11 months ago

              But that’s not what you said. You said the government had to force masking and distancing because people weren’t doing it voluntarily.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

                You said the government had to force masking and distancing because people weren’t doing it voluntarily.

                No. I never said government had to force masking or distancing. That is what gaslighters like Jesse want you to believe.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

                  You without question asserted that not wearing a mask was a violation of the NAP. What was your metaphor for it? Something about driving around with a bear in the trunk of your car which would occasionally climb out and maul people? Haven't you been ridiculed for years for that bit of stupidity?

                  Sorry, folks, I don't have my link to that anymore. It was a fun day.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                    Here you go.

                    https://reason.com/podcast/2021/10/25/freedom-responsibility-and-coronavirus-policy/?comments=true#comment-9176512

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

                      LOL! I forgot the part where he started randomly flailing and becoming more honest in how he views his critics as he spiraled into nonsense.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

                  You know your old comments are easily found right? No assistance from "gaslighters" needed.

                3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                  Yes, you did. Goddamn, you’re a liar. We’ve all seen the garbage you write here.

                4. R Mac   11 months ago

                  All you do is lie.

            4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

              “…,,attempt to solve the problems that the welfare state was designed to solve….”

              Lol. The problem of too many people not dependent on government? The problem of finding new avenues for government control and grift? Yeah, mission accomplished.

              In the chasm between being too cynical and not cynical enough, you are fucking retarded, Jeff.

        2. CE   11 months ago

          If the proposed rules changes are fair to both sides, and make more sense than the current rules, they should definitely be considered. Draft the Amendment and start pushing it.

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

          Jeff must have been a real shit as a kid. You know, the whiny little asshole that even the good kids did not want around.

          1. MK Ultra   11 months ago

            Wonder if he was too fat to stuff into a locker.

      2. R Mac   11 months ago

        “their class”

        Where did you get this from? I would assume you got it from somewhere specific because, you know, the quotes.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

          He’s an idiot. The rationale for lifetime appointments was to reduce churn when administrations change, same as for civil service.

          It was a reasonable idea at the time, since the Constitution really was a groundbreaking revolution in government. But like all governments, it assumed politicians and bureaucrats were competent, and that government paychecks endowed them with a sense of civil virtue. Government was still so small that thinking they could make wise decisions wasn’t as a priori stupid as has been since the Civil War.

          Whether lifetime appointments are better or worse than running for reelection every few years or having Presidents know when they’ll be able to make an appointment is besides the point. Government attracts parasites and has no market competition to keep them in check. Everything else follows and is inevitable.

      3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        Damn that's funny, quoting a dead man.

        Thomas Jefferson wrote, “The dead should not rule the living.”

        Do you even read your own quotes, or is it something you got in the morning DNC feed?

      4. Nobartium   11 months ago

        Thomas Jefferson wrote, “The dead should not rule the living.”

        Jefferson is wrong. Precedent exists.

    5. damikesc   11 months ago

      Weird how it ONLY becomes "worthy of discussion" when the SCOTUS is not reliably left-wing.

    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

      I don’t image the framers of the constitution ever imagined that the lifetime appoints could be so long as they are today.

      Loved reading the replies to this. M4E's knowledge of any actual history is as shallow as the other shitposters whose arguments he props up.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    The more white people feel like voting for trump, the more black people will suffer.

    Sounds like Vance was getting the full college experience.

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      I am 50/50 on it being doctored or embellished in some way, given the source, vs him just having more progressive views when he was younger, turbocharged by the groupthink that is ivy league academia.

      Shit, when I was in med school if you weren't 1000% on board with Obama, loving the guy, and telling everyone else why they should love him too, you were near shunned. Anyone that was either truly independent or *gasp* Republican kept quiet and just didnt talk about politics at all (or tried to). It really got to the point people would talk about X individual who was known to be a conservative as "man, I didnt know Jack was a racist, but I guess he really doesn't like Obama". It really shifted from arguments on tax policy and how much govt involvement someone might want to a no shit cult of 'right-think'

      Its all turbo charged now. In a place like Yale? Id imagine the kind of stuff he is alleged to have been texting about is pretty standard discussion basically throughout 99% of the campus, curriculum, and friend groups. I would be disappointed if he truly bought into the propaganda, but it certainly is possible with the amount of incentives to do so

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        When people leave the marxist cult seminary, they're either fully indoctrinated or they simply spent a few years parroting back the stupidity of their professors until they have the degree in hand.

        These institutions haven't been dedicated to anything other than creating marxist activists for about the last generation or so.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

          Goes way back. Look at all the Communist spies which came out of Oxbridge in the 1920s and 1930s.

          I put it down to Hitler destroying a modern country under global public scrutiny, whereas Stalin was reforming a backwards primitive tsar-ridden country in secrecy, with a language you couldn't even try to sound out, let alone having nothing in common with other languages. Russia still had serfs! Those primitive yellow people had beaten them in war in 1905! Lenin and Stalin were heroes for rescuing their people from the Tsar!

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

            I guess to be fair, elites have had an unhealthy fascination with this stupidity going back to Rousseau. They think they can use it to manipulate the masses easier, and history has shown that they aren't mistaken in this assumption.

        2. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          I’m just fine with reviving McCarthyism and destroying every Marxist in the US. We need a new Red Scare,

      2. MasterThief   11 months ago

        Some of that honestly just fit his ideas, experiences, and personality as he portrays them in his book and movie. I'm not surprised he wouldn't be bothered by a friend being trans. I get that this is being released to hurt him, but it honestly isn't terribly far from how my opinions have shifted over the same time (though he certainly started more left-oriented). This highlights that he isn't an asshole and can see problems presented by the left

    2. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/Oilfield_Rando/status/1817934367898907121?t=CS3IvDTNnocC8Y9v7HB3KA&s=19

      POV: you work at a publicly traded company and just logged onto the company wide town hall conference call, and they’ve handed it over the the Chief Diversity Officer to discuss the newest DEI efforts

      [Video]

      1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        this video is a version of hell

      2. Rockstevo   11 months ago

        This is exactly how I imagine the person who was smiling while telling them to hang their close on the numbered hook before going into the showers at Auschwitz.

      3. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        What a dumb bitch. She’s cute though. If she isn’t a muffin top from the neck down she would probably benefit from some a long deep dicking from an alpha male. Although it would take a lot to fuck that much stupid out of her.

    3. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/whatifalthist/status/1817681803127251262?t=0mqa3kBjiN_kCAN5_On2bw&s=19

      I’ve asked this before but the question still stands? How come we got to the point where Western civilization is committing suicide without people even asking questions or bringing it up? How come it’s still socially taboo to talk about?

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

        How come we got to the point where Western civilization is committing suicide without people even asking questions or bringing it up? How come it’s still socially taboo to talk about?

        First, they muddled the definition of "Western civilization" to the point that asking questions is moot. Then they declared that continuing to ask the questions using the old definition was racist.

        The defining trait of Western civilization was, and still should be free thought which in my mind spans the period from Aristotle to Einstein, or roughly, the Peloponnesian wars to WWII. Things got bad at times, but the worst regimes failed toward more science and more freedom.

        Since then the world has been dominated by Marxism, the reaction to Marxism, and the fallout from the failures of Marxist states. Everything today springs from Marxism as the world has adopted its collectivist language and culture and especially its collectivist science.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

          It’s honestly quite impressive that it took the west and especially the marxist left just 80 years to obliterate something that took a little over 2,500 years to build and adapt.

          Everything today springs from Marxism as the world has adopted its collectivist language and culture and especially its collectivist science.

          That's mainly because Marxism is the most significant theological movement since Islam, and with the same motivations--to get you to submit, but to an earthly supreme being rather than a sacred one.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Given the number of negative experiences I've had in the past few years, I can't imagine what a black guy goes through.

    Finally, a libertarian with a chance at the White House.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Former libertarian, more like.

      A "libertarian" who decided to take the money and run…

  6. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Regulations like these would drive up hotel room prices in a city with a tourism market that may not be able to bear it.

    There's always NYC Airbnb.

    1. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

      Except the Dems in NYC put through laws making it illegal to offer short term (under a month) housing if you are not an actual hotel. They did this after lobbying from the hotel sector, as the hotels were losing out badly to AirBnB and other types of substitutes for hotels.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has been declared the victor of Sunday's election there, despite disputes over who actually received the most votes.

    NO ELECTION DENIAL. Not on my watch, sister.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

      Fortification is 100% safe and effective with no down sides.

    2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      No widespread fraud.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      Most. Secure. Election. Ever.

    4. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Whether it was a fair election or not doesn't depend on your feelings.

      1. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

        No. It depends on whether the candidate the Dems wanted had won or not. (This would apply to Venezuela, just substitute the Dem party with Madura's party.)

        That's why it wasn't a threat to democracy to question the 2000, 2004, or 2016 Presidential elections, as well as the 2018 gubernatorial election in GA, but it's the worst assault on our democracy to ask questions about all of the "irregularities" in the 2020 election.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

          Facts, not feelings, please.

          1. Jefferson Paul   11 months ago

            Substantive replies, not banalities, please.

    5. Nardz   11 months ago

      https://x.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1817936627194376520?t=EkJd0iV3xPwiIenF6qn2aQ&s=19

      Biden has never been president but now we've transitioned from one puppet to the next without an election or the invocation of the 25th

      You don't live in a constitutional republic you live in the Total State

      [Link- .@VP has been briefed and is closely monitoring Hezbollah’s horrific attack on a soccer field in Majdal Shams in northern Israel yesterday which killed a number of children and teenagers. She condemns this horrific attack and mourns for all those killed and wounded.]

    6. CE   11 months ago

      Maybe Jankowicz can investigate Venezuela's election for Russian interference.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    It turns out talking about toxic masculinity for years on end and acting like straight white men are the problem doesn't make those people want to vote for you.

    Toxic voters. Who needs them anyway.

  9. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    Donald Trump claimed this past weekend that he would commute the sentence of Silk Road founder Ross Ulbricht if reelected president.

    Hopefully, if he does get elected, he'll remember this pander.

    1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

      There's a couple of other panders I'd like him to do too. Snowden comes to mind.

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Ulbricht was in prison before Trump was elected in 2016.

      And he somehow stayed there even after Trump issued hundreds of pardons and commutations in January 2021 (along with the "J6 Hostages", of course). I guess he wasn't pandering to any potential voters then; this is (D)ifferent...

      1. MasterThief   11 months ago

        Maybe the Libertarian party and its establishment mouth pieces could ease off shitting on him. Seems like a better way to have his ear on this stuff

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

          You really think Trump cares what the Libertarian Party thinks about him? Wow.

  10. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

    News report on how unemployed people manage to donate tens of thousands to democrats through Act Blue, often making 10 donations a day.

    Link separated as reason is eating it oddly.

    https :// x.com /kylenabecker/status/1817429727100952993

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      No widespread fraud.

      1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        How long until ‘there is widespread fraud, but it’s not a big deal, and it’s even kind of good’?

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Yeah, some guy on Xitter is certainly a reliable source. Are there any non-video explanations from reliable sources for this "fraud"?

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Yeah, some guy on Xitter is certainly a reliable source.

        Tell that to the mainstream "journalists" who don't do anything other than parrot the same narrative that gets spread around platform, or better yet, lazily consult Wikipedia entries instead of actually doing their own research.

        1. Ersatz   11 months ago

          parroting is a good description - they are using the same words in all their brave investigative jounalisming

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          He didnt even click the link. It has video.

        3. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

          So, no, all you got's a Xitter link to a video. Color me surprised.

          By the way, the video is from Gary Franchi at Next News Network (actually, Gary is Next News Network...), which Media Bias/Fack Check rates as, "Extreme Right Biased and Questionable based on the routine publication of right-wing propaganda, conspiracy theories, and several failed fact checks."

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

            Like I'm going to take anything claimed by a self-designated "Media Bias" org seriously. Get the fuck out with that nonsense.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

              I am sure you wouldn't. How could you possibly hold the views you do if you didn't seal yourself hermetically within MAGAworld?

              "In review, Next News Network publishes newsdesk-style videos throughout the day, with Gary Franchi serving as the primary host. Other hosts also broadcast news as well. Headlines and video content is often strongly worded to favor the right and denigrate the left, such as this: OH BOY! Joe Biden Looks Like Death at Campaign Stop — Something Is Wrong with Old Joe!. This conspiratorial propaganda piece resembles similar claims made about Hilary Clinton in 2016 when NNN speculated that she had Parkinson’s disease.

              Finally, NNN has also promoted that Michelle Obama is transgender, another conspiracy of the far-right LOOK!!! WHEN YOU LEARN WHAT OBAMA WAS WILLING TO PAY FOR TRANSGENDER SURGERIES, YOU WILL FREAK OUT!. In general, this Youtube channel is designed to look and feel like a credible news broadcast; however, it is not. The reporting consists almost exclusively of far-right conspiracies and propaganda that most times is not true. Next News Network is not a credible source for news.

              Failed Fact Checks
              ALERT: BOOM! Omar Facing 40 Years in Prison And Deportation After 7 New CRIMES Uncovered – False
              San Juan mayor Carmen Yulín Cruz arrested for misusing federal disaster relief funds. – False
              Photos and video clips narrated by a medical doctor demonstrate that Democratic presidential candidate Hillary Clinton likely has Parkinson’s disease. – False
              BREAKING: Whistleblower Drops HARD Evidence, Biden, Obama, Hillary EXECUTED Seal Team 6, Audio Proof – No Evidence"

              1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                You’re a raving idiot with nothing of substance to offer. You should kill yourself.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

        Awww….. sounds like somebody has a case of the Mondays.

        Spammy sad. Haha.

    3. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

      This may not be the scandal that you think it is. Platforms like ActBlue (presumably WinRed does the same thing) permit donors to make recurring automated donations to candidates of their choice.

      And "Unemployed" could mean someone who is retired, or someone who is a stay-at-home spouse (you know, one of those 'childless cat ladies') as opposed to someone who is broke and living on the streets.

      There may be some fishy stuff going on, but we would need to have more information to really know. Of course your right-wing source is not going to dig deeply into this story, because it hurts the narrative of "the other team is committing donor fraud".

      1. R Mac   11 months ago

        “stay-at-home spouse (you know, one of those ‘childless cat ladies’)”

        Poor Lying Jeffy getting his talking points crossed.

        1. Fire up the Woodchippers! (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Nothing is going right for the democrats, and they’ve become so brazen. It’s like trying plug 50 holes in a dyke with only ten fingers.

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        Are you one of those Magical Money Tree idiots who thinks making donations automatic somehow means you aren't actually paying for them?

        Platforms like ActBlue (presumably WinRed does the same thing) permit donors to make recurring automated donations to candidates of their choice.

        Or that being retired or a stay-at-home-spouse somehow generates a lot of extra income to donate?

        Weapons grade intellect there, buddy. Use it responsibly.

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Whats telling that Jeff didn't watch the video is that they talk about donations to different candidates changing, not automated payments. They talk about small donations that aren't reportable, which with Obama we found foreign donations. Then at the end a firm submitted a fake name and started donating with no checks.

          But I'm sure Jeff would be all for a detailed investigation.

      3. Ersatz   11 months ago

        There may be some fishy stuff going on, but we would need to have more information to really know

        Luckily - noone will investigate. That way, if it wasnt exposed it didnt happen. Nice and ti(D)y

        1. Ersatz   11 months ago

          This was as close as I could get to Sideshow Bob’s confession in this episode very disappointing.

          His confession and his supplying all the evidence with videos is both hillarious and what would be necessary for the corrupt media to start countenancing the idea of frau(D) affecting elections.

      4. Zeb   11 months ago

        Some people might set up a recurring monthly to biweekly donation, sure. Why would anyone set up recurring donations multiple times a day?

    4. CE   11 months ago

      Even, ahem, registered Republicans?

  11. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    ...there is suddenly a lot of attention being paid to Democrats who are just much much much much better at delivering bite-size talking points about progressive politics

    "Well... anyway..."

    1. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

      *golf clap*

  12. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

    The brilliance of Kamala on policy.

    "I am meeting with a lot of folks. And the work that we have begun is the work that is going to be ongoing. There is no question, and I said this from the beginning, that our approach to this issue has to be with a commitment to a long term investment and it has to be a commitment to consistency, the United States has to be consistent. There were times when were more engaged and we saw good results, less engaged, and we can see where the work and the partnerships then deteriorate. So I am committed to ensuring that we engage in an active way on the root causes, on addressing the cause and effect, and also being partners in the western hemisphere, understanding that we have a responsibility and if we ignore that responsibility it will visit itself upon us in a very domestic way."

    https://x.com/libbyemmons/status/1817524270282465291

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      Yes. She comes from a family of Marxists as well.

      https://www.economist.com/finance-and-economics/2024/07/25/revisiting-the-work-of-donald-harris-father-of-kamala?utm_medium=social-media.content.np&utm_source=twitter&utm_campaign=editorial-social&utm_content=discovery.content

    2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      White Dudes for Harris.

      Segregation is the new brat.

      https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/07/white-dudes-for-harris-not-parody-just-progressive/

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        Skin color is the most important thing.

      2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

        David Hogg and Pete Buttigieg will be headlining. Twinks for Harris may have been a more inclusive choice.

      3. Nardz   11 months ago

        https://x.com/Babygravy9/status/1817922778789761319?t=BnM93ZK-7WGB3AReqhTajw&s=19

        How the hell is this real!?

        [Magazine cover]

        1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          They have to march the intensity of the apparent Trump cult.

        2. Super Scary   11 months ago

          Why is she on a coconut? Is this a "brown on the outside, white on the inside" sort of joke?

          1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

            She fell out of a coconut tree.

            1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

              She got hit on the head with a coconut. Several times.

              1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

                It took her a while to find her target, but she eventually realized gravity was her friend and not at all racist.

          2. Nardz   11 months ago

            They astroturfing harder than anyone's ever astroturfed before, and it's kinda hilarious.
            Don't know what the meaning behind these are, but so far they've gone with trying to meme coconuts and "Kamala is brat" to appeal to the youth (and leftist media class) I guess?
            It's going so splendidly, natural and not at all transparently falling flat, that NYT has to come our and write articles "Team Kamala is winning the meme war".
            Just like Ukraine, when you're winning it becomes totes necessary to coordinate a media message to tell people you're winning...

            1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

              "It’s going so splendidly, natural and not at all transparently falling flat, that NYT has to come our and write articles “Team Kamala is winning the meme war”."

              Reminiscent of when Dark Brandon memes came on the scene the MSM lefty outlets had to rush to get out the story that "We are DESTORYING the right in the memeing wars!!" It was like watching a fat uncoordinated kid finally make a lay up in gym class and then bragging about his mad skills at lunch.

              But ya, if a propaganda outlet goes out of its way to tell you that everything is totes going great (Biden, Kamala, Ukraine, the economy...) its pretty much a guarantee its gaslighting

              1. Idaho-Bob   11 months ago

                It was like watching a fat uncoordinated kid finally make a lay up in gym class and then bragging about his mad skills at lunch.

                Reminds me of a couple DB's who pollute this place up.

            2. CE   11 months ago

              Kamala's also rolling out hundreds of seniors on golf cars in conservative retirement communities in Florida:

              https://flvoicenews.com/golf-cart-presence-for-harris-in-the-villages-reminiscent-of-seniors-for-charlie-crist-in-2022/

          3. R Mac   11 months ago

            https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=0bSTqokjNEE&pp=ygUaS2FtYWxhIGhhcnJpcyBjb2NvbnV0IHRyZWU%3D

        3. Zeb   11 months ago

          "Real" in the sense of "someone actually published this" I assume. Because nothing about that image is real.

      4. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        They are leaning hard into the collective guilt angle for the whites.

        Not sure how effective it will be. Say what you want about Obama, but he could speak and rallied people, got people excited, clearly had political talent. This "race to dinner" style of beating white people over the head with guilt about how their privilege is responsible for all the terrible things that happen to black women...I dont see that being something that works to turn out votes.

        Probably the extent to which it works on white suburban women will decide the election. Blacks and hispanics are breaking harder for Trump than any R in history. White dudes (not self hating) are not buying this race grift, as they are tired of being the specific targets of discrimination. White women are the largest demographic pool available that is swayable, really interested to see if the brainwashing will work on them

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

          Say what you want about Obama, but he could speak and rallied people, got people excited, clearly had political talent.

          Obama was lot more effective at running the “unity-criticism-unity” line than today’s Dem politicians. That type of rhetoric is extremely common in Jones Boomers and Gen-X liberals who were taught by the older Boomer professors, who adored Mao and the Cultural Revolution. That changed when Noel Ignatiev and Peggy McIntosh’s screeds against “whiteness” and "white privilege" became dogma in academia after 2000.

      5. MT-Man   11 months ago

        Lol I got a text asking me to join that I thought it was a joke text!

    3. Quicktown Brix   11 months ago

      the work that we have begun is the work that is going to be ongoing.

      Funny, I was just thinking the work we finished is the work that is no longer ongoing.

    4. VinniUSMC (Banana Republic Day 5/30/24)   11 months ago

      Sounds like a script from the TV show "Utopia" from Australia.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   11 months ago

    I'm willing to make a lot of sacrifices for my community. Wronging my kids isn't one of them.

    Unfortunately, your kids is a sacrifice they're more than willing to make.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Jeff and pluggo’s are willing to fuck your kids. Will that help?

      1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

        Local heroes.

  14. Moonrocks   11 months ago

    Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has been declared the victor of Sunday's election there, despite disputes over who actually received the most votes.

    Insurrection!

  15. Moonrocks   11 months ago

    you should send your kids to bad public schools because people like you doing that is what makes them into good public schools

    The bureaucrats running those bad public schools have no effect whatsoever and are just along for the ride.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Why are we admitting public schools are bad?

    2. BYODB   11 months ago

      The unintentional claim that poor and minority dominant schools need more white people to make them better is yet another example of a white savior mentality, one assumes.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        Well, that was the unspoken assumption behind busing, and it honestly worked out that way. When busing ended in Denver Public Schools, Manual High School went into the toilet and eventually had to be shut down for a while. During busing, it was considered a model for how well busing could work, but ultimately it really boiled down to, "get the white kids from south Denver and Green Valley Ranch out to the ghetto."

        A Denver ComPost article on the closure revealed that the administrators eliminated a lot of the AP classes after busing ended, because they didn't think the majority black/Hispanic students could handle the rigor required to pass the exams at the end of the year.

      2. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        We have an outdoor camp our kids go to, run by some pretty left wing hippie dippy forest witch ladies. Its known for being pretty great for the kids, and fortunately they keep everything apolitical (no drag queens...yet). So a wide swath of parents bring their kids to it.

        Always love when the topic of local schools comes up, as it is a hot button issue here. Basically we had a ton of white flight in the last 20-30 years and the city schools are a cesspool, the local county schools are magnet programs that everyone wants to go to...you know, basically the story of everywhere.

        Anyways, it is really fun watching the AWFL moms squirm and figure out reasons they have to avoid sending their kids to the local in town urban school, that their sweet townhouse/condo in the heart of downtown is zoned for. Somehow, all of them figure out something developmental, educational, or other fabricated reason their kid HAS TO go to the expensive private school and all the talks about the evils of white privilege instantly vanish. I do take joy in asking them "Hey, aren't you guys zoned for Roosevelt? Thats really great! I think little Quantavious from camp is zoned there!" They make it a point not to mention the astronomically low test scores, literacy rates, and behavioral problems there, but you can visibly see them walking on all the egg shells not to point out any "unconscious bias" they might harbor

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

          Anyways, it is really fun watching the AWFL moms squirm and figure out reasons they have to avoid sending their kids to the local in town urban school, that their sweet townhouse/condo in the heart of downtown is zoned for. Somehow, all of them figure out something developmental, educational, or other fabricated reason their kid HAS TO go to the expensive private school and all the talks about the evils of white privilege instantly vanish.

          A lot of white families in the Denver Public Schools district sends their kids to charter schools or, if they can afford it, private schools. East High School is something of an exception because it's always had a sterling academic reputation, so white parents who live in that zone aren't as reticent to send their kids there.

      3. CE   11 months ago

        Schools perform better when the parents care.
        The quickest way to make parents care is to charge them tuition.

        1. Square = Circle   11 months ago

          The quickest way to make parents care is to charge them tuition.

          And oddly enough when the parents can decide whether or not they want to take that tuition to a different institution, the school also starts to care a lot more about what the parents think.

  16. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

    Tommy Robinson was arrested for terrorism in the UK over the weekend. His terrorist act? Shoeing a documentary the UK banned.

    https://x.com/EndWokeness/status/1817537587503865938

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      He was shoeing a documentary and they gave him the boot.

      1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        How dare you pun my mistyped verb.

        1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

          It was corny, that's for shoe.

          1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

            Don’t be a heel wagging your tongue like that, that hurt me to my sole.

            1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

              Maybe we got off on the wrong foot. It's knot like I called your pun a croc.

              1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

                No strings attached.

                1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

                  And he was on a shoestring budget.

                  1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                    Thats it. I'm putting my heel down until these stop.

                    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

                      I admit, some of them need a bit of polishing.

      2. CE   11 months ago

        He must have stepped on someone's toes.
        That punishment is a real kick in the shins.

    2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

      He was arrested two weeks ago in Canada by the federal immigration minister for unspecified reasons, until the Alberta government threw a fit and forced them to let him go.

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      He wasn't "arrested for terrorism". If he had been, he wouldn't have been released on "unconditional bail" and allowed to go on his way (which he was, and then he left the UK on a Eurostar train).

      But, he will probably be arrested and extradited back to the UK for skipping a contempt-of-court hearing date. (Unless he makes it to Russia, I suppose, and never comes back to the first world.)

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

        Lol...

        "A High Court judge has issued an arrest warrant for far-right activist Tommy Robinson after he "left the UK last night" and failed to appear at a hearing in an alleged contempt of court case.

        Mr Justice Johnson said he would issue the warrant - but ordered for it not to be carried out "until early October" to allow Robinson time to indicate that he would attend the next hearing voluntarily, or to apply to "set aside" the warrant."

        I think this means they'd really prefer he never came back.

  17. Spiritus Mundi   11 months ago

    President Joe Biden, who is no longer seeking reelection following a scandal related to his decline acceptance of his long obvious decline in cognitive fitness

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      President Joe Biden, who is no longer seeking reelection following a scandal related to his decline acceptance of his long obvious decline in cognitive fitness a coup perpetrated by his own party.

      1. Z Crazy   11 months ago

        Brandon wasn’t supposed to run in the first place.

        he was supposed to announce he wasn’t running six months ago.

        What he did was like shutting off the gas valve after the fire gutted the house!

    2. Nardz   11 months ago

      President Joe Biden, who is no longer seeking reelection following an order being given to his Twitter account manager to tweet out his withdrawal and present the Bidens with a fait accompli

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

        Not dead?

        1. CE   11 months ago

          It's easier for the body double to match his voice if they say he has a cold. I mean COVID.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

            (D)ang, they clever!

  18. Michael Ejercito   11 months ago

    According to a spokesman, Vance "has been open about the fact that some of his views from a decade ago began to change after becoming a dad and starting a family, and he has thoroughly explained why he changed his mind on President Trump."
    You should see Trump's views in the 1990's

  19. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

    Biden Now Wants To Force Others To Retire Too

    Good. Drain the Swamp.

    Somebody needed to start the process.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Vote everyone out, every time.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

      Perhaps you could retire from Reason

      A few years back you posted kiddy porn to this site, and your initial handle was banned. The link below details all the evidence surrounding that ban. A decent person would honor that ban and stay away from Reason. Instead you keep showing up, acting as if all people should just be ok with a kiddy-porn-posting asshole hanging around.
      https://reason.com/2022/08/06/biden-comforts-the-comfortable/?comments=true#comment-9635836

  20. GroundTruth   11 months ago

    The Judges, both of the supreme and inferior Courts, shall hold their Offices during good Behaviour

    Nothing in there about a lifetime appointment, but nothing about removing them except for no demonstrating "good" Behaviour.

    The sad thing is, rather than doing this by executive fiat or easily revoked legislation, there is probably enough support nationwide for single, 18 year terms, with a new justice brought in every 2 years and a fixed number of 9 justices, that this could slide through Congress and the States as a very popular Constitutional Amendment right now.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      By all means, let’s upset hundreds of years of practice because Joe is demented.

      1. GroundTruth   11 months ago

        This goes back far longer than Joe or Trump, pretty much all the way back to the elder Bush.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

      It would be an improvement.

      The Bob Menendez/Clarence Thomas model today just encourages more "gratuities" - as bribes are affectionally called by SCOTUS.

      1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

        "Clarence Thomas model"

        Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
        Flag Comment Mute User
        Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
        GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!
        That fucking cop lover.

        Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
        Flag Comment
        Mute User
        Taking on Katanji Brown Jackson for lowest IQ affirmative action hire
        Uncle Clarence a candidate.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

          You left Menendez out.

          Aren't you going to call me anti-Latino too?

          #ButtplugHatesCorruption

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            I mean you celebrate Soros buying off political offices so I think your hashtag is innacurate.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

              Name a judge that Soros has bribed (like Clarence Thomas and Alito have been bribed).

              A direct gift = bribe.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

                LOL, Soros's money to commie judges who put thieves and murderers back on the street is payment for services rendered.

              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

                the TDS-addled turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
                But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

              3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                How were they bribed. Difficulty can’t use AOC style talking points but actual facts.

                But sure.

                https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/grants/soros-justice-fellowships

                https://freebeacon.com/democrats/how-millions-from-george-soros-fueled-democrats-court-victory-in-wisconsin/

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

            Do you hate Latinos as much as blacks, Shrike?

            1. DesigNate   11 months ago

              Yes, yes he does.

          4. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
            turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

        Butplug's posts on this forum = 9/11 (same motive)

        ^This makes as much sense as your handle.

      3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Yes, it would have to be accomplished by a constitutional amendment.

      And it should get a bit more support from Republicans after Biden appoints a newly admitted NLG activist to replace Sotomayor when she retires just after the election.

  21. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

    Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has been declared the victor of Sunday's election there, despite disputes over who actually received the most votes.

    Donnie's brother from a South American mother.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic (Factio Democratica delenda est 5/30/24)   11 months ago

      Are you fucking stupid or just totally fucking retarded? You do realize Maduro is one of yours, a fucking Marxist.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

        Those $1400 Donnie checks were the most Marxist action by a POTUS in 50 years.

        edit -and the election shenanigans are another similarity.

        The fake elector scheme to steal the 2020 election by Donnie would have made Chavez blush.

        1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

          turd, the ass-wipe of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          You're worried about one time checks passed by 90% of congress yet your narxist allies in the DNC keep pushing UBI and expanded entitlements.

          Kind of a weird take.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            Well, turd does lie. It's what turd does.

          2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

            There is no UBI. And there never should be one.

            But your effort to change the subject from how bad Fatass Donnie was is noted.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              There was UBI. Your DNC Marxists continue to try it despite failing for 40 years. Reason just had a writeup on it dumdum.

              And you ignore the DNC continued expansion of regulatory control and welfare entitlements. Because you are a pathalogical liar and retard.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

                There is no UBI you dumbass.

                The closest thing to UBI was St Reagan's EITC.

                1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

                  The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                  4 days ago you retarded fuck.

                  https://reason.com/2024/07/25/bad-news-for-universal-basic-income/

                  Or are you trying a no true scotsman?

            2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

              turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          3. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

            You’re worried about one time checks passed by 90% of congress yet your narxist allies in the DNC keep pushing UBI and expanded entitlements.

            This is Jesse-speak for "sure, your criticism of Trump is valid, but I will deflect away from your criticism of him by bringing up a completely unrelated topic like UBI".

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

              Jesse-speak

              He has been warned about his nonstop lying.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

                Your screen name presents an obvious lie in every post you make.
                Even the ones where you accidentally say something true.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

                Yeah at this point I think everyone knows Jesse is a serial liar. It's just that half of the commenters tolerate the lying because he is lying on behalf of the 'correct' narrative.

              3. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

                The TDS-addled turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud to be!

              4. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                Oddly you guys never actually give examples.

            2. R Mac   11 months ago

              UBI isn’t related to the topic of Marxist government policies?

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

  22. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

    Venezuelan President Nicolás Maduro has been declared the victor of Sunday's election there, despite disputes over who actually received the most votes.

    Why are you questioning the cleanest election ever? The government said he won. You are wrong to question it.

    1. Michael Ejercito   11 months ago

      For four years, I was told that people can steal elections with a few hundred thousand dollars worth of Facebook ads!

    2. CE   11 months ago

      To paraphrase Obama after Biden was installed as President:

      There was an election. And Maduro is now the President.

  23. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

    "A really interesting thread on whether voters have qualms about voting for minority women. (Spoiler: They don't, but the media apparently has an issue with reporting these findings.)"

    I don't. Why would I? I will certainly vote against Harris, but hardly because she's a black woman. Voted for Nikki Haley as governor when I lived in SC, she's a "minority woman".

    1. Z Crazy   11 months ago

      Racial identity politics are still have force as they were in 1800.

      Yeah, Trump won an outright majority of the white female vote in 2020, and made record gains in the black vote (Newsweek even published an article about that the day after the 2020 election).

      How much of that was due to anti-Brandon animus and how much of that animus will be projected on Kamala?

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        It’s important to continue to separate voters by skin color. For unity.

    2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

      but hardly because she’s a black woman.

      And she’s hardly a black woman. Less than one eighth. But if the one drop rule was good enough for the Klan, it’s good enough for the DNC.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 months ago

        Really bizarre that black Americans are supposed to support this woman in some kneejerk fashion. She is not an African American per the current definition. She is predominantly caucasian including the pigment she inherited from her Indian mother. I really hate all of this race shit but if the leftists are determined to make it a factor we have no choice except to debate it. She is also descended from a notorious Irish slave owner. She has nothing in common with Americans who are descended from slaves in the United states.

        1. Zeb   11 months ago

          Much like Obama, who was basically a white guy who happened to have an African father. I bet his father's family owned slaves not too far back too.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 months ago

            But to be fair he was clean and articulate. I assume Kamala is clean.

            1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

              She’s likely as clean as she is articulate.

        2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          She is predominantly caucasian including the pigment she inherited from her Indian mother.

          Who was a Brahmin, the most privileged and oppressing ethnic group in human history.

          1. CE   11 months ago

            But what about her oppressed and underprivileged upbringing, as the daughter of two college professors?

        3. Longtobefree   11 months ago

          Yet she is in favor of reparations, which I guess she will have pay, right?

          1. CE   11 months ago

            Anyone named "Cortez" in Congress should also be nervous when talking about reparations.

      2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

        Look up her father. Whoever told you he's 3/4 European lied to you.

        1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          Quit sockpuppetting, Buttplug, and her father was a Jamaican "quadroon" who identified as mixed and never Black.

          Maybe you should actually look up Donald J. Harris instead of parroting your ActBlue talking points memo.

  24. MWAocdoc   11 months ago

    "whether voters have qualms about voting for minority women."

    I would have voted for Condoleeza Rice for President in a heartbeat but she was way too smart to run.

    "It turns out talking about toxic masculinity for years on end and acting like straight white men are the problem doesn't make those people want to vote for you."

    Funny you should mention that. My County Council rep just sent me a re-election flyer captioned, "Women Trust Jill Jones!"

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

      Condi Rice “No one could have imagined terrorists would hijack planes and use them as weapons”

      National Security Advisor to the President.

      #TooSmart

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        The TDS-addled turd lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

        If only the "bushpigs" had kept on Clinton's NS Adviser, Sandy Berger (yes, the one who smuggled out sectret material in his socks).

        That would've stymied those Al queda hijackers!

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

          Yes, wingnut logic:

          9/11 and Berger stuffing docs into his pants EXACTLY THE SAME!

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

            Not the same no, however Berger's incompetence (along with others) did set the stage for 9/11.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

              Sarc is correct.

              Anything bad that happens during a Republican administration is Democrats fault.

              Anything bad that happens during a Dem administration is Democrats fault.

              It's like the nutcases that blamed the Bushpig Financial Collapse on Democrats.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

                Not so; the bush administration screwed the pooch in numerous ways, and posters here have no love for Bush from what I’ve seen.

                It’s you specifically who has found a new love for neoconservatives.

                9/11 is the fault of both clinton and bush.

                1. Quicktown Brix   11 months ago

                  Bush wins all-time worst president for me. His administration used 911 to give us the PATRIOT act and then went even beyond that in illegal domestic spying. They gave us the NSA, the war in Iraq, the war in Afghanistan, federal prosecution of medical marijuana in states that had legalized it, a push for an amendment against gay marriage, supporting torture as a form of interrogation, Chief Justice John Roberts and the financial collapse all while receiving direct communication from God.

                  Obama is runner up for continuing all and intensifying most of those things.

                  Edit: They both stood on the shoulders of giants (FDR and Wilson), but brought it to new heights.

              2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

                turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud of it!

              3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

                Retards defending retards.

          3. DesigNate   11 months ago

            The logic is the same as your handle. Of course, you know that’s not what he was saying. Well, maybe you don’t, seeing how fucking stupid you are.

      3. Ron   11 months ago

        there were 52 items on the list of potential terrorist targets, airplanes were just one of those items. should Bush had shut down all 52. that would have been a lefties wet dream come true of claiming every republican president was going to declare martial law and line the country with military which is what it would have required. that said the FBI once again fucked up or did they

        1. Ajsloss   11 months ago

          that would have been a lefties wet dream come true

          Fast forward to 2020...

          1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

            I had to imagine that the mayor of Champaign IL *had* to have had her maniacal plan at the ready, probably in a special red folder in the center drawer of her desk, just waiting for the chance to unleash her dream of ultimate power. This was her set of orders on March 13th, 2020. And they call Trump "authoritarian".

            https://bloximages.newyork1.vip.townnews.com/wandtv.com/content/tncms/assets/v3/editorial/5/51/551ced24-6535-11ea-9826-4f4fd396dacb/5e6b960454b21.pdf.pdf

            After the declaration of an emergency, the Mayor may in the interest of public safety and welfare make any or all of the following orders and provide the following direction:

            (1) Issue such other orders as are imminently necessary for the protection of life and property.

            [the list could have stopped here, as she gave herself unlimited power]

            (2) Order a general curfew applicable to such geographical areas of the City or to the City as a whole, as the Mayor deems advisable, and applicable during such hours of the day or night as the Mayor deems necessary in the interest of public safety and welfare.

            (3) Order the closing of all retail liquor stores, including taverns and private clubs or portions thereof wherein the consumption of intoxicating liquor and beer is permitted;

            (4) Order the discontinuance of the sale of alcoholic liquor by any wholesaler or retailer;

            (5) Order the discontinuance of selling, distributing, or giving away gasoline or other liquid flammable or combustible products in any container other than a gasoline tank properly affixed to a motor vehicle;

            (6) Order the discontinuance of selling, distributing, dispensing or giving away of explosives or explosive agents, firearms or ammunition of any character whatsoever;

            [Surprised this wasn't higher on the list, being a Democrat's wet dream].

            (7) Order the control, restriction and regulation within the City by rationing, issuing quotas, fixing or freezing prices, allocating the use, sale or distribution of food, fuel, clothing and other commodities, materials, goods or services or the necessities of life;

            [Full on fascism, setting prices and quotas via diktat].

            (8) (a) Order City employees or agents, on behalf of the City, to take possession of any real or personal property of any person, or to acquire full title or such lesser interest as may be necessary to deal with a disaster or emergency, and to take possession of and for a limited time, occupy and use any real estate to accomplish alleviation of the disaster, or the effects thereof; (b) In the event any real or personal property is utilized by the City, the City shall be liable to the owner thereof for the reasonable value of the use or for just compensation as the case may be.

            (9) Order restrictions on ingress or egress to parts of the City to limit the occupancy of any premises;

            (10) To make provision for the availability and use of temporary emergency housing;

            [Just ignore that 3rd & 4th Amendment]

            (11) Temporarily suspend, limit, cancel, convene, reschedule, postpone, continue, or relocate all meetings of the City Council, and any City committee, commission, board, 6 authority, or other City body as deemed appropriate by the Mayor.

            [City council is the only possible check on here orders, so she can cancel the council.]

            (12) Require closing of business establishments.

            (13) Prohibit the sale or distribution within the City of any products which could be employed in a manner which would constitute a danger to public safety.

            (14) Temporarily close any and all streets, alleys, sidewalks, bike paths, public parks or public ways.

            (15) Temporarily suspend or modify, for not more than sixty (60) days, any regulation or ordinance of the City, including, but not limited to, those regarding health, safety, and zoning. This period may be extended upon approval of the City Council.

            (16) Suspend or limit the use of the water resources or other infrastructure.

            (17) Control, restrict, allocate, or regulate the use, sale, production, or distribution of food, water, fuel, clothing, and/or other commodities, materials, goods, services and resources.

            (18) Suspend or limit burning of any items or property with the City limits and up to two (2) miles outside the corporate limits.

            [And now she claims to control things 2 miles outside her jurisdiction!]

            (19) Direct and compel the evacuation of all or part of the population from any stricken or threatened areas within the City if the mayor deems this action is necessary for the preservation of life, property, or other disaster or emergency mitigation, response or recovery and to prescribe routes, modes of transportation and destination in connection with an evacuation.

            [sic, 20 omitted in original]

            (21) Approve application for local, state, or federal assistance.

            (22) Establish and control routes of transportation, ingress or egress.

            (23) Control ingress and egress from any designated disaster or emergency area or home, building or structures located therein.

            (24) Approve the transfer the direction, personnel, or functions of City departments and agencies for the purpose of performing or facilitating emergency or disaster services.

            (25) Accept services, gifts, grants, loans, equipment, supplies, and/or materials whether from private, nonprofit, or governmental sources.

            (26) Require the continuation, termination, disconnection, or suspension of natural gas, electrical power, water, sewer, communication or other public utilities or infrastructure.

            (27) Close or cancel the use of any municipally owned or operated building or other public facility.

            (28) Declare, issue, enforce, modify and terminate orders for quarantine and isolation of 7 persons or animals posing a threat to the public, not conflicting with the directions of the Health Officer of the community.

            (29) Exercise such powers and functions in light of the exigencies of emergency or disaster including the waiving of compliance with any time consuming procedures and formalities, including notices, as may be prescribed by law.

            (30) Issue any and all such other orders or undertake such other functions and activities as the Mayor reasonably believes is required to protect the health, safety, and welfare of persons or property within the City or otherwise preserve the public peace or abate, clean up, or mitigate the effects of any emergency or disaster.

            [As if item #1 didn't give her enough arbitrary power, #30 doubles down.]

            1. Super Scary   11 months ago

              "(3) Order the closing of all retail liquor stores, including taverns and private clubs or portions thereof wherein the consumption of intoxicating liquor and beer is permitted;

              (4) Order the discontinuance of the sale of alcoholic liquor by any wholesaler or retailer;"

              Philly did that during the start of the lock downs because the stores are state run. Lasted a month or so before they figured it was easier to lock people down when they were able to get their booze.

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   11 months ago

              My favorite is the allowance for accepting gifts without any exemption or even recognition of personal gifts. This order would openly legalize bribery.

              I suspect item 20 must have been:

              (20) Require the termination of any pregnancy or the discontinuation, or suspension of lifesaving efforts for any person or clump of cells that poses or may potentially pose the slightest imposition on existing resources during or at any time after the declaration of emergency.

              I really can't imagine anything less outrageous that could have warranted deletion from the apparatchik's laundry list.

        2. CE   11 months ago

          Maybe Saudi nationals taking flight training in the USA and not being interested in the landing part might have been a clue.

          Maybe the Minnesota and Phoenix FBI field offices getting close to the plot might have gotten closer if their hands weren't tied.

          Maybe the East Coast should have had more than 2 jets on standby for air defense, and maybe they should have been armed.

      4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   11 months ago

        "National Security Advisor to the President."

        After 8 years of Clinton controlling everyone who the NSA relied on.

        You weren't any smarter about being a pedo.

      5. CE   11 months ago

        Except there was a Tom Clancy novel called Debt of Honor published in 1994, about someone using an airliner to attack the Capitol.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      "I would have voted for Condoleeza Rice for President in a heartbeat but she was way too smart to run."

      So much this!

  25. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

    "Was Edith Wilson Actually America’s First Female President?"
    [...]
    "For just over a year, Edith Wilson took on the duties of the president, following her husband's stroke, despite the fact that there was a Vice President ready to take over."
    https://allthatsinteresting.com/edith-wilson

    Beat Jill by more than 100 years.

  26. DesigNate   11 months ago

    “delivering bite-size talking points”

    Even Progressives are starting to understand that the American public doesn’t want to swallow their bullshit?

  27. AT   11 months ago

    Biden will likely "argue that the current system of lifetime appointments for Supreme Court justices gives a president undue influence for decades

    .... how?

    They're not beholden to the Executive Office and its policy whims. The President has no say whatsoever in what they decide or how.

    As usual Tapioca Joe and his Marxist puppeteers have no idea what they're talking about. They just hate the fact that they can't rewrite the Constitution as it suits their agenda.

    Hell, let's not fool ourselves. They just hate the Constitution period.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      Does everyone who wants to amend the Constitution "hate the Constitution"? The Constitution provides for that very process.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

        C'mon, you know that the Constitution was written by Jesus right after he finished writing the Bible. It is sacred holy text and must never be changed ever.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

          Said by no one, ever.

          1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

            He wants to be sarc so badly…..

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

              Imagine aspiring to be that...

        2. Moonrocks   11 months ago

          The constitution should be used as toilet paper

          Can't say I'm surprised.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

            How about this instead:

            The Constitution is neither sacred holy writ, nor is it mere toilet paper.

            Sound good to you?

        3. R Mac   11 months ago

          “C’mon, you know that the Constitution was written by Jesus right after he finished writing the Bible.”

          What an honest post!

          1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            Just here for honest discussions.

      2. AT   11 months ago

        No, wanting to amend the Constitution is the very device that was built into it to make sure that the people get their say.

        Take a civics class bro.

        What Tapioca Joe is talking about here isn't anything even remotely like that. He wants to force out inconvenient jurists that say, "No, you can't do that, you do not have the power to do that" when the President (or the Admin State) wants to force an agenda that is patently unconstitutional. Same thing FDR wanted to do when nobody was buying his New Deal nonsense.

        Marxists have always hated the Constitution and the Courts. It gets in their way.

      3. DesigNate   11 months ago

        “He will propose a process in which a president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years on the bench.”

        Unless I’m missing it, the words amend and constitution aren’t in the quote about the proposal.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

          Obviously, he is suggesting the Constitution be amended to accomplish this. How else could he do it? He's never vowed to be dictator for only one day...

          1. Square = Circle   11 months ago

            Obviously, he is suggesting the Constitution be amended to accomplish this.

            Interesting how Biden's true meaning, in contrast to what he actually said, is obvious, while no one could possibly ever figure out what Trump could mean by "I will secure our elections. Our goal will be, as I said, one day voting with paper ballots, proof of citizenship, and a thing called voter ID."

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

              Again, how else could he (Joe Biden) do this? Care to speculate how an outgoing President could possibly impose term limits on the Supreme Court--or appoint two justices--without a Constitutional amendment?

              It's not a matter of discerning his "true meaning" from a typical Trump word salad--there is only one possible meaning to understand.

          2. Longtobefree   11 months ago

            True enough. He just went ahead and did it.
            I have lost count of the number of his actions declared unconstitutional/illegal by courts at all levels.

            1. Square = Circle   11 months ago

              I have lost count of the number of his actions declared unconstitutional/illegal by courts at all levels.

              And that he nevertheless continued pushing even after being told by the court that they were unconstitutional.

              1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

                You mean like Trump's "Muslim Ban"? The courts repeatedly struck each new attempt down until the proposal was no longer unconstitutional. If the Supreme Court says, "this is unconstitutional because of X", how hard is it to figure out that if you remove X, it will probably pass constitutional muster? Trump simply tried and tried again. So did Biden. Shocking!

                The same silly rhetoric was employed by the left when Trump was doing it as you are employing now.

          3. DesigNate   11 months ago

            I am 100% willing to admit that I’m basing my opinion off of the snippet presented and there may be more context around it.

            But considering his past actions and treatment of the constitution, I highly doubt it.

            1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

              Fair enough.

              So, I ask you the same question: "how else could he (Joe Biden) do this? Care to speculate how an outgoing President could possibly impose term limits on the Supreme Court–or appoint two justices–without a Constitutional amendment?"

  28. Ron   11 months ago

    surprised no comments about the olympics opening ceremony mocking Christianity, so dissapointed since i come here to see the arguments

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   11 months ago

      Apparently the Olympics committee took down the videos. It's already memory holed.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

      Didn't see it.

      I doubt Xtianity was "mocked" though. I understand they used the Last Supper somehow.

      The wonderful movie MASH also used the Last Supper when Painless wanted to kill himself because he wrongly thought he was gay for not performing with a nurse. It is one of the great tributes in film history. Lt Dish "saves" Painless by sacrificing herself sexually.

      (not to be confused with the over-rated TV series of the same name)

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

        It wasn't even about the Last Supper. It was about the Feast of Dionysus. Which makes a lot more sense, since the Olympics have Greek roots (not Christian roots), and Dionysus is the Greek god of fertility, wine and pleasure (basically the god of partying).

        It was everyone else who immediately thought to project Christian symbolism onto it.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug - Jan 6 = 9/11 (same motive)   11 months ago

          Fake Conservative butt-hurt is legion.

          Meanwhile Pedo-Pastors are all over the Evangelical movement.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

            In fairness, it was the Catholic Church which piled on with the "mocking Christianity" stuff.

            1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

              In fairness you've been caught pushing the false rebrand of the event like a good little sheep.

            2. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

              In fairness the performers called it the Last Supper themselves and the fat chick in the middle called herself Olympic Jesus.

              You and Shrike and your ilk have declared war on Christians and I hope the Christians will wake up and treat you accordingly.

              1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

                https://twitter.com/RealTStevenson/status/1817632233538179140

                However, the woman in the center of the crowd around the table said differently on social media, sharing posts that have defended the Last Supper depiction as well as posts saying that that she was the "Olympic Jesus."

                This was found from stories on her Instagram handle "barbarabutch" for Barbara Butch.

          2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
            But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

          3. R Mac   11 months ago

            Interesting post by the guy that was banned for posting a link to child porn.

        2. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

          Jeff parroting the false narrative once again

          Dionysus, the Greek god of Wine, had practically nothing to do with the Greek traditions of the Olympic Games. Indeed, Dionysus isn’t even mentioned among the Greek gods listed on the Olympics’ own history webpage.

        3. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

          "Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence honored at Dodgers Pride night"

          Ya, in fairness, the pride cult is usually so brazen and empowered, being the most privileged and protected minority of all time, that they are perfectly happy being on the nose and flipping the bird all the while.

          But the Olympics might just be a case of the French showcasing the degenerate side of their country portraying for us a nice little cross section of "Late Stage Western Civ". Standard globalist fare, tbh

        4. AT   11 months ago

          You only liked it because there was a small child there among the pederasts.

        5. DesigNate   11 months ago

          I think it was pretty obviously supposed to evoke both paintings.

        6. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

          Jeff is caught lying. Lol. The performers themselves called it the last supper. The one with the halo called itself Jesus.

          Screen cap from the performers.

          https://x.com/SarahisCensored/status/1817695062538461461

          And

          https://x.com/RealTStevenson/status/1817632227951321218

          But youre only here to push leftist lies jeff.

          And for awareness jeff, keeping this bookmarked for next time you claim to not push leftist narratives.

          1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

            ooof, Jeffy handed another L to hold on to

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

            Oh good Lord. Fine, the lady "Butch" thought she was mocking Jesus. Fine, shame on her. But "Butch" doesn't run the Olympics nor did she design the content. The DESIGNER, Jolly, clearly said it was about the Feast of Dionysus. "Oh, but the producers said the scene resembled the Last Supper". Yes, the setting LOOKED LIKE the Last Supper, but it wasn't supposed to BE the Last Supper.

            You are just bound and determined to be angry and upset about this because it feeds your narrative of 'the elites' hating Christians and hating you. This is yet one more instance of your team's post-modernist, socially constructed 'reality'.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

              Facts changed again on Jeff. But don't worry, he was still right all along.

            2. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

              "Did they all carry cards in their pockets stating they are specifically and absolutely mocking the last supper, on the day, with video evidence?! No?! Then this group that constantly mocks and has nothing but scorn toward Christain(ofascist...oops)s couldn't possibly be taken at their own word by their own postings that they are, in fact, mocking Christians. Conspiracy theorist victims at it again! Next you are going to tell me the IRS targeted Christian groups!"

            3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

              “….*as a group*……”

              Lol. Jeff, the king of selective nuance.

      2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    3. Moonrocks   11 months ago

      I'm not even watching the olympics.

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        Fuck no.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

      What's to comment? It's not like the French turning the opening ceremony into a drag/pedobait show was a surprise. They even had a golden cow for everyone to worship, lol.

    5. R Mac   11 months ago

      No retarded French dude is going to stop me from watching women’s beach volleyball.

    6. CE   11 months ago

      Funny how diversity, equity, inclusion and tolerance don't work both ways. What happened to being inclusive and tolerant toward people with different religious beliefs? Why was it considered okay to mock them?

  29. BYODB   11 months ago


    "He will propose a process in which a president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years on the bench."

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      Yeah, show the math on that one.

      1. CE   11 months ago

        Justice A: serves 2025 to 2043
        Justice B: serves 2027 to 2045
        Justice C: serves 2029 to 2047
        Justice D: serves 2031 to 2049
        Justice E: serves 2033 to 2051
        Justice F: serves 2035 to 2053
        Justice G: serves 2037 to 2055
        Justice H: serves 2039 to 2057
        Justice I: serves 2041 to 2059

        Rinse, lather, repeat.
        I assume if a justice dies mid-term, a temporary replacement is appointed to serve out the rest of the term.

        The tricky part is when to start, since the 9 justices on the court now were appointed for life. I guess they would have to serve out their terms until death. Just map them to the A/B/C/D/E/F/G/H/I rotation based on date of initial appointment. If they're still alive (and don't want to retire), they serve out the first part of that term.

        1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

          As of June 2022, there have been 116 Justices. What is the average length of a Justice's tenure? The average number of years that Justices have served is 16.

          No improvement found.

        2. AT   11 months ago

          I assume if a justice dies mid-term, a temporary replacement is appointed to serve out the rest of the term.

          No. They work with eight (or whatever they have left, though I think there's a minimum of six needed to make a quorum). The deceased justice's staff continues to contribute to pending matters, but the deceased justice's vote on a matter is not counted if the decision has yet to be announced. If there aren't enough to make a quorum, which has never happened, I believe all pending decisions are stayed until the bench can be replenished.

  30. BYODB   11 months ago


    "He will propose a process in which a president would appoint a justice every two years to spend 18 years on the bench."

    Ah, yes. It's only ever a 'problem' when Republicans start using a given tactic. It wasn't a problem that they were a bunch of lifetime appointments when it was Democrat appointed judges. Now they get to point at Republicans and blame them for making them do this when they could have done it during Obama's terms when they had their supermajority.

    Guess it wasn't important then, which makes it pretty obvious why it's important to them now.

    1. I, Woodchipper   11 months ago

      ^ absolutely correct

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

      It wasn’t a problem that they were a bunch of lifetime appointments when it was Democrat appointed judges.

      Reminder: Norm Ornstein, prominent conservative, proposed SCOTUS term limits back in 2014.

      https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2014/05/its-time-for-term-limits-for-the-supreme-court/371415/

      Reminder: Ted Cruz pushed for 'retention elections' for SCOTUS judges back in 2015.

      https://thehill.com/regulation/248872-cruz-calls-for-retention-elections-for-supreme-court-justices/

      Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) wants to amend the Constitution to subject Supreme Court justices to periodic public retention elections.

      “Much to my great disappointment, this past term the court crossed a line and continued its long dissent into lawlessness to a level I believe demands action,” he said during a Senate committee hearing on Wednesday.

      “The court today is not a body of jurists. It is not a body of judges following the law, but rather it has declared itself in effect a super legislature.”

      Gee, it's as if neither team has any firm principle on the matter and only advocates for what is expedient in the moment.

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        That’s why you can’t jump into these things.

      2. R Mac   11 months ago

        I’m sure Biden agreed with them at the time, right?

  31. I, Woodchipper   11 months ago

    It turns out talking about toxic masculinity for years on end and acting like straight white men are the problem doesn't make those people want to vote for you.

    progressives are literally backwards on just about everything they profess.

    It is toxic *femininity* that is destroying our country.

  32. I, Woodchipper   11 months ago

    .A really interesting thread on whether voters have qualms about voting for minority women. (Spoiler: They don't, but the media apparently has an issue with reporting these findings.

    They want to call us racist misogynists so badly, but we just dont care for 90IQ bolsheviks.

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      The other problem they are running into is they jumped the shark post Floyd and the resulting BLM riots. They have shown that literally anything and everything will earn you the "racist" moniker, and its not about racism, its about:

      "shut up and do what we say, or else we will call you a racist...if you are good and do your part, we will just say you are one of the good racists..."

      Its lost the sting. Its all but given if you are white you *will* be called a racist, or part of the problem. Its alarm fatigue, people are over it.

    2. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      Further, there's the 'stated vs revealed preference' involved here.
      No one wants to admit not voting for Harris for fear of being called racist, but once that ballot in in front of you, well...
      For related reasons, Trump has always 'polled' far worse than he's 'balloted'.

  33. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

    I also get really irritated by “you should send your kids to bad public schools because people like you doing that is what makes them into good public schools”. I’m willing to make a lot of sacrifices for my community. Wronging my kids isn’t one of them.

    What makes a lot of public schools an absolute pain in the ass is really the horrendous culture of youth worship in this country and general increasing unwillingness to hold kids accountable for their behavior for the last 50 years or so. These schools were designed to cater to the lowest common denominator, so in the really crappy ones, the teachers spend 90% of their time playing referee or trying to settle down all the kids who are acting out, rather than teaching anything (or even worse, when they do teach it’s just some variant of marxist theology rather than anything useful). As a result, the kids who really do want to learn are consistently shoved to the side so the teachers can tard-wrangle the kids who don’t, or they’re mocked by their peers for not being a fellow tard.

    As long as the education-industrial complex and the nation's culture at large remains in thrall to a political theology instead of education, there's absolutely no way public schools will improve.

  34. I, Woodchipper   11 months ago

    School choice would solve pretty much all of the toxic elements of this discourse:

    No, get rid of publicly provisioned schooling entirely. Problem solved.

  35. I, Woodchipper   11 months ago

    .The two friends reportedly had a falling out in 2021, which has seemingly motivated Nelson to leak the messages

    tranny friend is a drama douche. unsurprising. this makes me like vance more. If Trump can win we have a decent chance of 8 years of Vance to follow. That will be light years better than 12 years of kamala-bolshevik nonsens.

  36. Rick James   11 months ago

    . The more white people feel like voting for trump, the more black people will suffer."

    *starts counting # of black people who publicly claim they believed Trump was a racist, realized he wasn't and are now vocal supporters... ran out of fingers and toes*

    1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      A woman who says she is going to vote for Harris because ‘she is a black woman’ gets a quick wake-up lesson.

      https://twitter.com/i/status/1816639361858810171

  37. Rick James   11 months ago

    Texts and emails between Vance and Sofia Nelson, a transgender classmate of his at Yale Law, have now been published in The New York Times.

    Is this the same New York Times that actively hid Biden's cognitive decline and claims Harris was never a border czar?

    1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

      Walter Duranty; 'nuff said.

  38. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

    Check out Kamala's white father:

    https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/6bsVrtNcoTGWpQULHbxXwF-1200-80.jpg

    1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

      Quit sockpuppeting as me you dirty pedo.

      And Harris looks like Victor Davis Hanson with a late August suntan.

      Harris is a quarter black who always identified as mixed as did his family back in Jamaica. And he’s only a quarter not because he has a single pure black grandparent, but because he comes from a hundred different mixed who total that up in their ancestry.

      I can tell you’re from Deep South Georgia the way anyone with even one drop of African blood equals black to you.

      1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

        "I can tell you’re from Deep South Georgia the way anyone with even one drop of African blood equals black to you."

        They also like to do the reverse, as the left has been having shit fits when Andrew Tate busts out the hard R, and when they are told "but I mean...he's black though" the response is "Well I mean he is only half black...so he isn't REALLY black"

        As with most things on the left, its whatever will get them more power. If a person that is 1/1064th black is telling me to take 10 seats and listen to them while lecturing me about my privilege, it would be racist to do anything but sit there and nod in agreement. If a half black person votes Trump, they aren't "authentically" black at all.

        Its whatever they need to get more power

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

      It's refreshing to see sarc and jeff calling out this handle spoofing. Oh wait...

  39. Longtobefree   11 months ago

    Man, woman, black, white, straight, alphabet, none of that should matter.
    Read the republican platform.
    Read the democrat platform.
    Vote for the party that least infringes on your personal freedoms.
    (or if you prefer, vote against the party that most infringes on your personal freedoms)

    1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

      Reject the duopoly; vote Libertarian.

      1. R Mac   11 months ago

        I thought you didn’t vote at all?

        1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

          He means to check next to the (L) but it always accidentally ends up next to the (D).

      2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

        When the big L stops running democrats yelling bumper stickers and chooses an actual libertarian, maybe. But we know you only push this because dems are losing. Like half the dems in big L costumes here.

        Please. Vote for the candidate pushing sterilization of children and federal protections of favored classes. Who has no actual plans. Is shallow and has no depth. The thing that you fear the most is the reduction of the dem controlled institutions.

        1. sarcasmic   11 months ago

          So you've never read or listened to any interviews with him. You just know he's gay, and therefore he supports what those gays support. Because all those gays are the same. They're all Democrat pedophiles. But you don't hate him because he's gay. No, that would be bigoted.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

            If I didn't vote for Jorgensen, or Gary Johnson, does that make these people gay?

          2. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

            I’ve literally given you links to his actual statements you retarded dishonest fuck.

            And of course you retreat back to identity arguments when nobody brought up his identity like a good little leftist retard.

            Bookmarked.

          3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   11 months ago

            Dude, this was pathetic the first 500 times. Fuck.

            Seriously, what do you get out of this? Hero complex?

  40. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   11 months ago

    Interesting that Democrats who are embedded in nearly every institution of everyday life including making up a large portion of the stink of the deep state and the vast majority of the propaganda machine commonly referred to as the major media, complain about one institution that for the most part have maintained their independence.

    Perhaps de-funding NPR and PBS as there are enough privately owned media that the taxpayer should not be funding a biased propaganda arm of the Democrat party.

    If Term limits are to be imposed on the courts, then they should also be imposed on the Senate and Congress and un-elected Bureaucracy heads. Their should be a multi-year separation of politicians from an administration going to work for a special interest group or as a media personality. The executive and legislative branches revolving door of special favors and QUID-PRO-QUO is much more of a problem than the Judicial branch has.

  41. CopaGent   11 months ago

    This proposal in asinine and DOA. Biden is a lame duck and irreverent.

    1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

      "Biden is a lame duck and irreverent."

      Probably a little irreverent with his progressing dementia, but I think you were looking for 'irrelevant'

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        Damn auto-correct...

  42. R Mac   11 months ago

    Lmao, leftist “journalist” posting an obvious AI image to show all the people at a Harris fundraiser.

    https://x.com/crampell/status/1817240851942084662

    Lying Jeffy is so proud.

    1. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      Lol. She marked all the comments as spam to hide them.

  43. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

    Im really enjoying this “Trump and Vance are weird!” story arc.

    The POTUS son regularly loses coke baggies in the WH between hooker bangings, the VP is a cat lady who has a step daughter “model” (with merits similar to hunters art career) that looks like weird al yankovic, and the current admin had Biden tongue bathing a trans influencer in the WH, and assistant HHS secy is a large fat man that thinks hes a woman, prior Biden/Harris admin included a bald tranny that had a habit of stealing underwear from people’s luggage….

    To be timely, the current dems are sitting around a table looking like the Paris Olympics ‘dinner’ scene, going “Man…check out those WEIRD republicans who think cat ladies are lame!” I can only imagine the Bee is going to have a field day with this

    Bold strategy cotton, lets see if it pays off

    1. Moonrocks   11 months ago

      It's an appeal to AWFL-type women. Whether that's because the party doesn't think they'll break for Harris or it's simply the result of a diversity-hired campaign is anyone's guess.

    2. Zeb   11 months ago

      Trump is definitely weird too. But given everything else that has been happening in the world for years now, he doesn't really stand out from a reasonably objective point of view.

      1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

        "Trump is definitely weird too..."

        Your cites fell off.

        1. Zeb   11 months ago

          So you know a lot of people like Trump? He's a typical, usual sort of person? He's definitely weird. That's not an insult or an attack. I like a lot of weird people. And Trump is not normal. I bet half the people who will vote for him think he's fucking weird. Because he is.

          You need to get over your inverted TDS. Trump may be the best option we've got going at the moment. He may even be able to help set some things on a better path if he gets elected. That doesn't mean he's not a very unusual and sometimes bizarre personality.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            I see; he's weird because TS-addled shits like you think he's weird.
            FOAD, asshole.

            1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

              Oh, Em, Gee!
              Just got a link, and it seems "weird" is the new knock-word on Trump from the Harris campaign, as (in the case of Zeb, the TDS addled shit), that's the best than can use for ammo against him!
              Keep in mind that a week or so ago, leakin' Joe wasn't "weird".

              1. Zeb   11 months ago

                I was calling Trump "weird" before it was cool. And I agree that it's fucking nuts that the people who have been pushing a war on normality for years now are all in on "weird".

                Get over your TDS, dude. There's a lot of room between full on Trump supporter and "TDS addled shit". You are lashing out at people who basically agree with you because they dare to point out that Trump is in some ways flawed. Get a fucking grip.

      2. LIBtranslator   11 months ago

        Note to foreign readers: to Trumpanzee Republicans, a reasonably objective point of view is the same as that obtained using a proctoscope.

        1. Zeb   11 months ago

          I'll be sure to let any Trumpanzee Republicans I run into know about that.

          1. Sevo, 5-30-24, embarrassment   11 months ago

            And I'll let any TDS-addled shits know they have a friend in Zeb.
            FOAD, asshole.

            1. Zeb   11 months ago

              Well, they're going to be disappointed when they meet me.

    3. LIBtranslator   11 months ago

      Voters are urged to listen closely to everything the nazi prohibitionists and commie dems say about each other, and remember those things when you see "Chase Oliver" on the ballot on election day.

  44. A Thinking Mind   11 months ago

    Anyone been watching the Olympics? Can’t wait for Simone Biles to hopefully not choke this time.

    1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

      It’s terribly unpopular, that’s why they are pushing it so hard.

      2024 interest is significantly down on the 48 per cent of US adults who intended to watch the 2016 Olympics. 34 per cent of US adults said they will not watch much of this year's event, while 30 per cent do not plan to watch any of the Games.

      1. CE   11 months ago

        Putting most of the events on Peacock isn't helping either.

      2. Zeb   11 months ago

        Maybe it's just me, but I think their approach of making it faker and gayer every time isn't working. Maybe just show some sporting events? I've always really liked the olympics. I enjoy watching individual sports and like to see stuff you don't see all the time. But the coverage is just the worst. And the opening ceremonies have just gotten more and more retarded. How about just have everyone march in under their national banners, someone makes a short speech, the torch gets lit and maybe have an orchestra play the Olympic hymn or something. Why does everything have to be a gay dance party?

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

          And the opening ceremonies have just gotten more and more retarded.

          Funny how the ceremonies in non-western countries don't go out of their way to be as deviant and hedonistic as possible. It's mostly an actual celebration of their history and culture, rather than a bunch of masturbatory post-modern leftist tropes.

          1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

            ^ this, very much

            The contrast of the Chinese drummers in early 2000s playing in great unison putting on a massive spectacle, representing their culture, was a show of strength, pride, and cultural representation. And I hate to give the commies accolades, but it is what it is.

            Compare that to what we get from the globohomo countries. Indulgently fucking lame and honestly so predicatable that it cant even shock anyone anymore. People that are into it are like "oh, cool", most normies roll their eyes, and even people that would catch the vapors before just harrumph and change the channel in apathy at this point. Pride bullshit is so corporate at this point it might as well be Disney...oh wait.

            1. Zeb   11 months ago

              Commies are pretty good at pageantry and parades.

      3. Red Rocks White Privilege   11 months ago

        The shit's gotten so fucking boring and self-indulgent, and it doesn't help that the western media orgs broadcasting it, and a lot of the athletes themselves, don't even like their own countries.

        I'd rather watch actual patriotic athletes who don't go out of their way to bitch about how systemically oppressive their country is the other 3.90 years between Olympic games. If it was anything like they claimed, their dumb asses wouldn't even be allowed to compete in the first place.

        1. Mike Parsons   11 months ago

          "how systemically oppressive their country is the other 3.90 years between Olympic games. If it was anything like they claimed, their dumb asses wouldn’t even be allowed to compete in the first place."

          ...perfectly exemplified by LeFlop James being the flag bearer. Maybe next time it can be Kaep, and Shacarri Hoodratterson after that.

  45. LIBtranslator   11 months ago

    Huh? Lizard Axis Sally is AGAIN carpet-biting over FDR proposing to put anti-Comstockists on the Court via Senate confirmation hearings? Izzis a rerun?

    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   11 months ago

      Jeff and Sarc, it’s time you put Dad in the home.

      1. Mother's Lament   11 months ago

        Seriously, that was cryptic even for Hank.

  46. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

    You can't hate the media (and tech giants) enough.

    https://twitter.com/ArynneWexler/status/1817965383682506917

    Why is it that when you google Donald Trump, you get news about Kamala Harris

    But when you google Kamala Harris, you don't get news about Donald Trump?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   11 months ago

      Also

      https://twitter.com/Bubblebathgirl/status/1818002885411586431

      Facebook admits it wrongly censored iconic photo of bleeding Trump pumping his fist after assassination attempt: ‘This was an error’

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   11 months ago

      here's a clue: your searches are biased by your search history, so it's very easy to fake headlines like that by manipulating your own search history

      1. Don't look at me!   11 months ago

        Makes no sense.

      2. R Mac   11 months ago

        Yeah, I’m sure he has a long history of searching Kamala. Fucking idiot.

    3. JesseAz (5-30 Banana Republic Day)   11 months ago

      This is why sarc is so dependent on his citations for http://www.google.com. moron doesn't even realize it is biased and he treats their rankings as indisputable fact.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

        I don't Google my own beliefs; I predominantly Google all the wackjob nonsense people share on here. By your logic...

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   11 months ago

          Have you ever Googled "DIY home suicide"?

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

            Sadly, no.

  47. Kw-26   11 months ago

    I would like to see one term only for all the elected gangsters in the Congress and Senate.

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   11 months ago

      That might work for the Senate, but a single 2-year term for the House?

  48. jagjr   11 months ago

    "Reforming the Court in such a manner would be controversial, and it would require congressional approval."

    true, and true. but misleading nonetheless. congressional approval is insufficient. his plan would require constitutional amendments. we need truth in advertising here.

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