Cops Called on 8-Year-Old Child for Being Outside
"Can a child not ride her bike on the street in this neighborhood anymore?"

Kay Eskridge is a Kentucky mom, former child protective services worker, and fan of the Free-Range Kids movement. Over the years, she's written to me several times about our shared passion for fostering kids' independence. This includes a note she sent in 2021 saying that a 7-year-old riding her bike in their quiet Louisville neighborhood had been stopped by cops who wanted to know where her mother was.
But earlier this summer, it happened to Eskridge's own kid.
"The police were called because my 8-year-old was riding her bike on our street," says Eskridge.
Her note arrived in my inbox recently. Subsequently, we connected over a Zoom call. She set the scene: Her daughter, Julia, had just finished second grade. Thanks to a weird schedule, Julia arrives home two hours before her friends. That leaves her bored and eager for fun by late afternoon. On May 18, when at last a friend had made it home, Julia hopped on her bike to ride eight houses over to his place.
"She was three houses away," says Eskridge, "and the police stopped her."
The policeman was actually someone the family knew. (Eskridge's husband is in local politics.) He told the girl that "this isn't a good time to be outside," according to Eskridge. Julia assured the officer that she was used to traffic and knew how to ride her bike, and continued on her way.
The officer left her alone but decided to pay a visit to the Eskridge house.
Her husband answered the door, but when Eskridge heard what was going on, she took matters into her own hands.
"I was not about to let him handle this," she says. "So I come bursting through and say, 'Can a child not ride her bike on the street in this neighborhood anymore? Is that what we're saying?'"
The policeman assured her no, it wasn't that. Rather, a woman had called the police because she was "upset that a child was outside."
Eskridge informed the cop that it was not illegal for children to be outside. He agreed but implied that Eskridge needed to take that up with the woman.
She soon got her chance. When Julia returned home, she told her mom that a woman had come running over to her. Eskridge realized that must have been the neighbor who called the cops: an older lady who lived down the block. Eskridge went to talk to her and explained that kids need some independence.
"I explained how she's not on screens when she comes home," says Eskridge. The woman, a former teacher, eventually agreed that this parenting decision was sound, and the matter was finished.
Now Eskridge would like the rest of the world's Good Samaritans to take a minute and think before reflexively calling the cops whenever there is a child outdoors.
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Can't decide without knowing her immigration status.
Lives in Kentucky, named Kay Eskridge, not afraid of the cops, and husband in local politics.
You know her immigration status. You just want to be an ass.
He succeeded!
Poor Sarc. Condemned to forever judge people by the color of their skin and their accents.
Sad, really
Clown comment. The weasel strikes again.
Wow, your alcohol induced dementia is progressing faster than Biden 's dementia.
Sarc has the ability to make Kirkland sound almost coherent.
Nobody jacked off onto the girl, so why is their immigration status relevant?
"Julia assured the officer that she was used to traffic and knew how to ride her bike, and continued on her way."
I like this kid; but not in the way Pluggo likes kids.
a woman had called the police because she was "upset that a child was outside."
The police then took that woman to the local "behavioral crisis" center, right? RIGHT?!
Or to the local gravel pit.
The dispatch should have told her it's fine for kids to be outside and to stop wasting the police's time.
This!
Does that older lady seriously not remember growing up? I'm assuming at least 60, so born no later than 1964. Would have been 10 in the mid-70s. Did she seriously not spend time outside away from her parents?
White female Boomers reject childhood, including their own.
And she was a public-school teacher.
No wonder she hates kids.
Definitely not Gen X. Fuck was the sun still out? Then the question is why is the kid inside? Streetlights aren't on, so your place is outside.
Also, I blame Sally Jesse Raphael and Donahue and also Unsolved Mysteries. They turned our Boomer parents that sent us outside and to remain their until the streetlights come on, into the overprotective, kids need to be locked up, boomer grandparents. Luckily my parents still grandparent a lot like they parented, e.g. kids allowed to run free in the summer. My 13 yo daughter is staying with my parents while we're dealing with some serious health issues my wife is having and she's spent the last two days running around with the neighbor kids outside all day.
Don't forget the milk carton kidnapping hysteria.
A friend of mine got sole custody of his two daughters. He took them out of State because he was offered a good job. Both girls were on milk cartons and on the Center for Missing and Exploited Children website for years. They were NOT missing.
They were NOT missing.
So your “friend” was exploiting them!?!
/sarc
"I was not about to let him handle this," she says.
...
He agreed but implied that Eskridge needed to take that up with the woman.
This problem feels... circular... somehow.
Men don’t know how or are not allowed to solve problems anymore.
Well, in my case it would be better for my angry wife to speak to the cop, because the angry me would probably end up arrested or worse.
Well, dammit, now it feels more Mobius strip.
Some people believe that it is illegal for a man to be alone with a child. I used to eat lunch at a local park. I was asked to stop by the Police because I made some women nervous even though I was just sitting there eating and reading a book.
He agreed but implied that Eskridge needed to take that up with the woman.
No, the cop needed to chastise "the woman" for wasting the PD's time with her Gladys Kravitz bullshit, and then go back to patrolling with no further action on the matter.
This is a lot like the "1st amendment auditor" videos where some dipshit calls the popo because, "There's a guy with a camera filming people in public, and I didn't give him permission!", the cops show up and, after assessing the situation proceed to cop-splain to the auditor how he should be more sensitive to people's feelings...instead of just educating the cranky Karen who called about what "in public" means and then going on their way.
In our secluded neighborhood, the 4-year-olds (yes, 4-year-olds) cruise the street in their 4-wheelers (yes, ATVs).
"Can a child not ride her bike on the street in this neighborhood anymore?"
Of course not.
Our beloved Politburo does not allow freedom for adults, so why would they grant freedom to children?
Something “could” happen. I recall one such story [on this site] where the cops were obsessed with the possibility of snakes.
Something could happen for sure. Many years ago I was teaching a training course at a company suburban office on the west side of Houston. During a tropical storm a cop showed up to tell us we should all evacuate because the water was rising behind the flood control dam and could burst out. The only problem was that we were on the upstream side of the dam.
The only problem was that we were on the upstream side of the dam.
Well, there was that time in 1812 when a series of earthquakes caused the Mississippi River to reverse the direction of its flow for an hour or so. So..it could happen, man!
What if she was a member of the Party Youth, and riding around on her daily snitch patrol?
Stop focusing on the old lady, the question isn’t why the busybody called the cops, the question is: WHY DID THE COPS DO ANYTHING ABOUT IT!?!
They were hoping a dog was involved.
Largely because, especially if this is a smaller community, the cops are kinda in a no win situation. If they didn't check it out, and something happened to the kid, that would have been the story. Better to check it out, talk to the parents and let them know what happened (and let them work it out with their neighbor) and get castigated for checking it out, than not checking it out and something (however remotely) bad actually happened.
JFC. It really is a no-win situation with the #ACAB/#defund retards. Despite the “Everybody went home safe” idiocy, this *is exactly* what Peelian policing looks like... *everybody* actually did go home safe.
The public was served, no one was forced to do anything, common understanding was reached, a lack of crime and disorder was ensured…
I mean should the dispatcher not even pick up the phone? Should old people be barred from complaining about punk kids?The local PD be relegated to playing pinnocle? Should they be out handing out more parking tickets? Should everyone just point to each other like idiots whenever a crime actually does happen and someone asks “Whose job is it to deal with this?” WTF?
It’s moving away from “It takes a village to raise a child.” to “We have to obliterate the village in order to raise a child.”
We'll have to see if DFACS shows up next week to take the kid away.
I would probably draw the line at, "Old woman called the cops, dispatch sent the cops out, cops saw a perfectly normal kid riding a bike, and then went on with their day".
What line?
AFAICT the situation is already Karen-rich, if not saturated.
Libertarian-esque phrases that spring to mind for everyone involved:
- Not my monkeys. Not my circus.
- Not better. Just different.
- When your response to everything that is wrong with the world is to say, 'there ought to be a law,' you are saying that you hold freedom very cheap.
Do I think the cops should've done anything different? Sure, maybe. Am I going to make a law or a rule or draw a line that prevents them from informing a 7 yr. old girl that she should be careful riding her bike in traffic wherever they are at whatever time of day? Fuck no. Kids should be able to talk to adults, especially authority figures, competently, without wigging out, feeling threatened, or otherwise needing their mothers to shove their fathers out of the way and give the local cops the whatfor. Not my monkeys, not my circus. My preferred action isn't better, just different.
Part of being an adult with the ability to tell other people when to fuck off is knowing when to fuck off yourself.
What line?
Probably the line you were asking about here:
I mean should the dispatcher not even pick up the phone? Should old people be barred from complaining about punk kids?The local PD be relegated to playing pinnocle? Should they be out handing out more parking tickets? Should everyone just point to each other like idiots whenever a crime actually does happen and someone asks “Whose job is it to deal with this?” WTF?
JFC, you know I wasn't actually talking about a literal line, Former President Obama, right?
Do you read? The whole point of the Sowell quote is that if you start drawing lines, that's where *you* start hemming in other people's freedom. Traditionally around here this is/was brought up with "If you're going to say 'there ought to be a law (line)', you should be prepared to say it should be enforced with deadly force."
Are you going to draw the line for the cops that says they can't make sure little girls are riding their bikes safely for them? If so, that makes *you* the Walter Peck, the Gladys Kravitz of this situation, above all others.
What in the blue fuck are you babbling about?
Are you, personally, going to stop the cop, an acquaintance of the family, from interacting with the family?
Is that your job, or did you take it upon yourself, Karen? If it's not your job and you aren't going to do anything about it, did you (or anyone else) really draw any sort of line or are you just making yourself look like a hyper-officious, domineering retard?
Actions, consequences, the lines separating the two... these things aren't difficult for normal people to understand.
the cops are kinda in a no win situation
As I pointed out in another sub-thread, the way to “win” in this situation was to assess the situation (which should have taken all of about 60 seconds) and, upon realizing that it was a bullshit call letting Gladys Kravitz know that she’s an idiot (in a polite and professional manner, of course) and then going on your way without even bothering the girl’s mother.
Whaddyaknow Mr. Pecker has solved to Kobayashi Maru over the internet!
I realize that such simple things seem like unsolvable puzzles to simpletons like yourself, but to the rest of us they're just not that much of a problem.
Unless you’re going to go there and solve the problem yourself (which, at this point, doesn’t need solving), you’ve just imagined a problem and are trying to find someone else to unload it on every bit as much teacher/neighbor who unloaded her concerns on the officer to begin with.
To wit: Fuck you, Karen.
Kids are supposed to stay home, stare at screens, get fat, and eventually get their genitals mutilated by a surgeon.
It's better they get their genitals mutilated first.
Obesity can hinder the healing process and since they'll be laid out at home for a bit, they can watch tv while they heal.
Protective services should come and take the child away. They should also take away all children living within 5 houses of this family. Better safe than sorry. The state's job is never done.
Here's another basic human behavior we will need to test for after the apocalypse, when we are screening people for entry into the survivor colony.
Sample question: you look out your window and see some people doing something. Is it any of your business?
Depends on what they're doing? Riding bikes in the street? Nope. Pointing guns at random people? Yes. Adult males chasing a minor female? Definitely a possibility that it is something I should check out. Sorry, I think you could word that question better, because it's definitely situational.
you look out your window and see some people doing something. Is it any of your business?
[Looks out window at hired landscapers] Uh… yeah.
Taking bets on if that old lady is a registered Democrat.
I wouldn't take that bet. Karens/busy bodies crosses political boundaries.
How right you are 🙂 ... but the 'odds' are still in my favor as there's a 40[M]-60[F] Democrat gender divide.
Former schoolteacher, does tend to skew the odds.
On the top list of dangerous entities must be a Karen with 911 on speed dial.
TLDR.
Karen's gon' Karen.
Maybe write your article about Karen's next time (or, better yet, their more formal incarnations: HOAs).
Karen's should be slapped in the face.
HOA officials should be put under the guillotine.
Write THAT article, please.
As a kid I used to ride my bike one-handed, without a helmet, and a BB gun in the other hand on my way to hunt birds. Obviously I didn't grow up in a suburban HOA-controlled prison.
Honestly I feel kinda bad for the cop here. He clearly knew it was BS, that's why he didn't stop the kid. The "it's not a good time to be outside" line wasn't implying he was a danger to the kid, but probably that "Karens are about, you should be careful."
The “it’s not a good time to be outside” line wasn’t implying he was a danger to the kid, but probably that “Karens are about, you should be careful.”
The Karens are watching. The Karens are *always* watching.
What should bother sensible people is that a Policeman was unable to assess the situation rationally.
I'm not surprised that a teacher is a libtard - pretty much a requirement in that profession.
The policeman was actually someone the family knew.
WTF is wrong with you retards?
This isn't a new phenomenon. 30 years ago, I was a single Dad in Boise, Idaho, and I let my 9 and 7 year-old daughters walk 3/8 mile to school. One morning, a cop appeared at my door with my daughters and informed me that my children needed to be accompanied by an adult to school. I asked the cop about all of the other children who routinely walked to school unaccompanied, and he had no answer.
It turns-out that the school nurse, a very religious type who believed that fathers were not suited to raising daughters, had called-in a complaint to the police.
Kids riding bikes = Thug Life
After reading the article it seems to me that everyone acted in a perfectly appropriate manner except the old lady and, happy ending, neighbors talked and the old lady understands. Score one for the good guys. In my neighborhood (early to mid 70s) half the houses had kids and we knew all the older people in the houses that didn't. If something happened someone would come out to make sure you were OK. Nobody called the cops and if you ran through someone's garden and trampled their flowers while playing, they talked to you or to your parents and you didn't do it again.
Now that the matter of child endangerment is settled, let's address this woman's failure to show deference to local law enforcement authority.