SWAT Goes to College
Even in an era of police militarization, there’s something shocking about seeing cops in riot gear on college campuses.

A gray-haired Dartmouth professor was tackled, zip-tied, and detained on May 1 along with about 90 other protesters. "I've been teaching here for 34 years," Annelise Orleck told The New York Times after video of the arrest went viral. "There have been many protests, but I've never, ever seen riot police called to the green."
Much of the debate about the campus protests sparked by the Israel-Hamas war has centered—quite reasonably—on questions around free speech, civil disobedience, and violence. When do chants become threats? When does blocking access to a building become the use of force? Less attention has been paid to the role of policing. But even as Americans have become numb to the militarization of police in other contexts, there's something shocking about the sight of cops in riot gear on college campuses.
About 2,700 protesters have been arrested or detained at dozens of schools this spring. At UCLA, nearly 200 arrests recently occurred, with police stepping in many hours after counterprotesters attacked the encampment. At the University of Virginia, students (and one Reason reporter) were hit with pepper spray and then hauled off the lawn along with their tents; 25 students were arrested or detained.
While clearing an encampment at Columbia, the New York Police Department (NYPD) used a specialized vehicle with a ramp, nicknamed "the bear," to access the second story of a building occupied by a few dozen students. Police stormed the building and the encampment outside it wearing helmets and wielding ballistic shields. They used flash-bang grenades. One New York Police officer discharged a weapon in the university's Hamilton Hall. (An NYPD spokesman later told a local publication, The City, that the officer had been using a firearm "equipped with a flashlight" to see around an area barricaded by students when he fired the gun "accidentally.")
Witnesses initially posted on X that they thought the vehicle was an MRAP, or mine-resistant ambush protected vehicle, which became popular with police departments in the wake of the 1033 Program, a 1990s George H.W. Bush–era* initiative to hand off Department of Defense surplus to local law enforcement. That program has been somewhat curtailed, but the taste for such vehicles has not. "The bear" turned out to be a BearCat, a tactical vehicle now popular with police and available from a private supplier. The NYPD has several; a batch acquired in 2005 cost $225,000 apiece.
In the decade since former Reason reporter Radley Balko wrote Rise of the Warrior Cop, most major cities—and plenty of college towns—have seen a normalization of the paramilitary mindset for policing, as well as the use of SWAT teams in routine police action.
But the use of these tactics on college campuses in the context of political protest should be an occasion to examine the tools and powers given to police—and the difficulty of the task assigned to them.
In summer 2020, aggressive policing was both under debate and on display, as protests over the death of George Floyd at the hands of Minneapolis police flooded the streets. The urban crime spike that followed those protests was blamed, in part, on the possibility that cops might have become overly cautious or disaffected in light of national scrutiny. But in most cities, the crime wave has receded, calling that explanation into question. (Washington is an exception, for reasons that resist simple explanation, as one D.C. neighborhood commissioner, Joe Bishop-Henchman, explains.) Around the same time, homeless tent camps began to multiply in cities, raising difficult questions about the policing of camping in public and semi-public spaces—questions that have been reraised by the tent camps of college kids. (Reason's C.J. Ciaramella looks to Miami for answers to the homelessness problem.)
Universities tend to lack the wherewithal to clear encampments themselves, even if rules about the time, place, and manner of protests are clear, content-neutral, and unambiguously constitutional. In the case of the Dartmouth arrests, the police swooped in mere hours after the first sign of an encampment, at the request of the university president. But as national attention to that decision and the disasters at Columbia, UCLA, and elsewhere make clear, many universities were right to be cautious when calling in off-campus law enforcement.
The mindset and training of law enforcement is unlikely to be suited to the delicacy of the situation. Nor are local police likely to be up to date on the subtleties of First Amendment–protected conduct. For now, college presidents (and the U.S. president) seem to have internalized the lessons of Kent State and have resisted the temptation to involve the actual military. The arrests at Dartmouth took place on the 54th anniversary of the Ohio National Guard's shooting of four students on that campus over anti-war protests, but enforcement has been strictly civilian so far.
But this leaves colleges and cops in a difficult position, and not one of their own making. Though the protesters often have demands for campus administrators, typically about divestment and diversity, those asks tend to be minor and mostly beside the point. They are angry about U.S. involvement in an overseas conflict, something the victims and targets of their protests have very little power to change. But with obsessive national political attention on college campuses already, the temptation to make a fuss on campus is too strong to ignore.
Likewise, by equipping themselves to be as large and terrifying as possible, police have paradoxically limited their ability to deal with the kind of human-scale problems that actually arise in 2024, whether it's crime, homelessness, or protest.
Elsewhere in this issue, Editor at Large Matt Welch analyzes the distortions in U.S. foreign policy caused by the massive buildup of American armed forces, as epitomized by former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright's famous 1993 query: "What's the point of having this superb military you're always talking about if we can't use it?"
The same mindset has taken hold domestically. Both abroad and at home, the American way is now to send expensively overequipped cops barging into situations that desperately need de-escalation instead.
*CORRECTION: The original version of this article misstated which presidential administration was responsible for the 1033 program.
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Nothing new, my dear.
Cops on campus in the sixties were also in "riot gear".
What has happened is the rioters upped the game with helmets and body armor and such, and the cops got more and better stuff as well.
"When do chants become threats?"
When they call for elimination of an entire race/religion.
"When does blocking access to a building become the use of force?"
When it occurs; you can't 'block access' without force.
etc.
That caught my eye too.
When it blocks access to a building.
Fire KMW,
Get out of DC
Liberty first.
They are just a grassroots sanctions issuing freelance legislative body.
Remember the pro terrorist animals were cheered for blocking people from going to class.
The anti baby murder protesters stood in front of a clinic and let people pass, and got prison time for it
There was the cop that got 10 years for participating in the Jan 6th.... 'event' Including an enhancement for wearing 'body armor'.
So, there seems to be a way to deal with that.
As for chants to become threats.
a) You have to be able to carry out the chant. 200 students at UCLA are not going to wipe out the Jewish race.
b) You have to make some move to make it seem like you will carry out threat.
Of course, there are lots of people (apparently) too dumb to understand that being anti-Israel is possible without being antisemitic.
I agree with your 'blocking access' assessment.
Blocking access, handcuffing yourself to a tree. Is beyond 1st amendment and you should ready to suffer the legal consequences.
While you are correct that true threats must be practical to be true threats, "wiping out the entire race" necessarily includes 'killing this particular member of that race' - and that is within the capability of the 200 students at UCLA.
Based on published news reports, the 'making some move' threshold has been repeatedly met. Surrounding, isolating and even assaulting jewish students and staff has occurred multiple times.
I tend to be skeptical of published news reports.
While true in principle, in this case the video is compelling, especially since it is substantiated by the stories of both sides of the confrontation.
I agree that you can be anti-Israel without being antisemitic, but that particular Venn Diagram has a LOT of overlap.
But those 200 or so "students" can and do threaten the lives of Jewish students or anyone else who dares disagree with their thuggery.
Quit being disingenuous.
I never cease to be amazed at people who think that aggressive policing of college campi is something new -- it isn't.
25 years ago, at the turn of the century, colleges were having problems with increasingly large and more frequent celebrations of sporting events, and this is when the riot gear was initially purchased. This is when merely being in the wrong place at the wrong time became grounds for arrest, and the Boston Police actually shot a student to death -- this was during the 6th Game of the 2004 World Series, and she was a student at Emerson College.
None of this is new.
+1 Everyone my age has a sports riot story from their local university, the university they attended, etc. There were issues with wrong place, wrong time, but people were walking down the street lighting random shit on fire and destroying public and private property. No riot gear wasn't really an option. Just wait and hope more people don't get injured, including fatally, than if the police get involved was a stupid option.
KMW's not trying to make perfect the enemy of the good. She's trying to make the pretty good the enemy of pretty violent and evil.
it goes back to the Vietnam War protests. except then they brought in actual troops.
Anti-war, SDS, Black Panthers, Weather Underground, etc. And up to one bomb per day or more. Violent protests, building occupations and destructions, and general campus cooption. Campus cops, local cops, state cops, and National Guard.
That was the late 60s and early to mid 70s. I guess that is too long ago so whatever happens this year is “never before”.
State colleges, the ones usually winning the championships, are typically policed by a detachment of the state police.
In addition to their own campus police who are answerable only to the college administration.
Again the crocodile tears for the victims of the police.
These “student protests” are clearly callls to kill the jews.
They deliberately disrupt all students attending the University.
And intend to intimidate all non protesters.
They should be dealt with harshly and early.
I have no problem with the fact that pro-Hamas, antisemitic protests are being held, free speech and all that; but they shouldn't be encouraged and supported by the publicly funded universities, and they shouldn't interfere with university operations or other non-participating students educations.
Kill the Jews or kill the Israelis? I'm sure there is some of both.
However, since the dawn of time, there have been calls to kill this group or that group and at least in the US, non of that has come to fruition.
Oh, but they have a different point of view than you??? Well, riot police on their @$$.
“ there have been calls to kill this group or that group and at least in the US, non of that has come to fruition”
Didn’t the governor of Missouri issue a “kill order” against Mormons? I’m pretty sure they “tried to kill this group”.
So if the KKK wants to hold a protest on campus, it's perfectly okay to threaten black students? Because some group or other is always being threatened, but hey, black people are still here?
That's pretty stupid.
The delicacy of the situation?
They are applauding genocidal rape, torture, and murder, all streamed live as it took place, of 1000+ Jews.
They are trespassing and preventing students from going to classes and taking finals.
Too many of them are professional agitators, not students themselves.
And the ones who are students apparently don't want to be students any more.
Delicacy?
Fire KMW.
Get out of DC.
Liberty first.
Liberty first? How does that square with Koch brand Libertarianism?
What's delicate about supporting terrorists?
Or shouting anti-semitic slogans, threatening and intimidating people based on race, religion, and/or national origin? What happened to micro-aggressions and zero tolerance?
.
"All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others." (from George Orwell's Animal Farm)
Some animals deserve safety (even from "micro-aggressions"). Others deserve unpunished calls for genocide (if not unpunished assaults).
1. Liberty first
2. Get rid of Koch
3. Get out of DC
4. Fire KMW
5. Hire an intellectually and ideologically diverse range of libertarian writers.
There really is zero need for the magazine to be in DC.
With the exception of Nancy Rommelmann and occasionally Robbie, very little actual reporting is done here. It's almost all commentary and interviews, and those interviews are almost always videoconferencing.
Then I heard another voice from heaven say: “’Come out of her, my people,’ so that you will not share in her sins, so that you will not receive any of her plagues;
That is a better order, but somehow keeping KMW around isn't likely to lead to the others.
OK, you have clearly drank the cool-aid.
If they are outsiders, then they are trespassing and can be arrested for that alone.
The protests started when the Palestinian body count mounted much higher than any initial attack.
Your argument is, Hamas did it first, so, ignoring the behavior of Israel toward the Palestinians, Israel is free to do whatever it wishes because Israelis are better than Hamas.
What a low bar to clear that is.
Doesn't make it right.
Japan surrendered eventually.
The body count actually keeps getting lower.
You're serious?
All Hamas had to do to stop the "high body count" is to release the hostages and lay down their arms. There would be no more high body counts, inflated or otherwise.
Instead Hamas swore they would carry out even more October 7s.
And they haven't changed their tune. Except for crying about civilians being killed or injured after Hamas built tunnels under and stored weapons, missles and explosives in civilian places like schools, mosques, and hospitals.
Where's the rape videos? Do they hide those in the same place as the burned beheaded babies baked in ovens videos? If you've watched this unfold there were no reports of rape until the baby atrocity stuff faded out. I'm sure there was some sexual assault but doesn't "pelvises crushed by rape" sound like war propaganda?
All that stuff's in the new, Der Stürmer version of Tat's Sinfest Comix.
All those videos aka EVIDENCE are still available online. You just want to deny the reality.
Shorter KMW:
Stop woke on woke violence
Why?
"Even in an era of police militarization, there’s something shocking about seeing cops in riot gear on college campuses."
Shocking? SHOCKING!?
Come on. With all the shit going on in the world, this is shocking?
As I demonstrate below even in the fairly recent past it isn't really exceptional.
It's just Katherine Manchurian-Ward's hyperventilating virtue signalling that she really cares about the ability of the students she wants to impress to harass Jews and other students under the banner of Palestine.
At the very least, she and others have reacted emotionally to having their idyllic campus bubble burst. That includes the first major pushback on campus coddling in decades.
When Reason prints a full throated condemnation of the treatment, including murder, of the J6 protesters and the incarceration of peaceful pro life protesters I'll worry about whiny trust fund college kids.
Get ready for a long wait.
Even in an era of police militarization, there’s something shocking about seeing cops in riot gear on college campuses.
Grow the fuck up and learn to journalism. Back in my day police would show up in riot gear, in response to the riot, because of fucking sportsball
eventshappenings.https://www.complex.com/pop-culture/a/faiz-siddiqui/biggest-college-campus-riots-in-history
The 25 Biggest College Campus Riots of All Time
(Approximately smallest to largest)
25. Tennessee Students Riot Upon Coach's Departure - 2010
24. Purdue Students Take a Loss Too Hard - 2001
23. Jackson Police Open Fire on Protesters - 1970
22. Wisconsin Students Protest Napalm Manufacturer's Visit - 1967
21. UW students Set Seattle ablaze - 2003
20. Ole Miss Students Protest Obama's Re-election - 2012
19. U of O Turns Into a War Zone - 2010
18. Drinking Ban Leads to Rage - 1998
17. St. Patty's Day Parade Becomes Violent - 2011
16. Maryland Students Burn the Trees -2010
15. Columbia Students Protest Recreation Center - 1968
14. Power Outage Leads to Melee in Seattle - 2010
13. Penn State Fans Freak Out Over Paterno's Dismissal - 2011
12. The First Black Student at Alabama - 1956
11. Occupation of Sproul Hall - 1964
10. Berkeley Riots Inspire Later Movements - 1960s
9. National Guard Members Kill War Protesters at Kent State - 1970
8. Celebration Goes Awry at Iowa State - 2004
7. Ole Miss Students Protest James Meredith's Enrollment - 1962
6. College Fest (sic - Kent State) Turns Violent - 2012
5. Maryland Riots After Loss to Duke - 2001
4. Ohio State Fans Rush Streets Following Championship Berth - 2003
3. Pandemonium in Maryland for the NCAA Championship - 2002
2. Michigan State Fans Mob After Loss - 1999
1. Kentucky Students Flood Lexington Streets to Celebrate - 2012
Again as someone who may or may not have been present for one or more of these events; grow the fuck up. You don't get to block access to streets and buildings indefinitely *FOR ANY REASON* and not expect cops, or even just people, to show up with lexan shields and crowd-dispersing gear.
The fact that, once again, you retard yourself in favor of a pro-Palestinian, openly genocidal political movement shows just how morally and principally bankrupt you are.
"in response to the riot, because of fucking sportsball events happenings."
That's the point. A riot associated with a sporting event is not a protest.
"I've been teaching here for 34 years," Annelise Orleck told The New York Times after video of the arrest went viral. "There have been many protests, but I've never, ever seen riot police called to the green."
When protestors trigger leftist college administrators and government leaders, they might have crossed at least one line.
Try not disrupting people who are trying to learn, or go to work.
Try not supporting terrorists.
You are missing the point. The protestors are voicing opinions that are critical of Israel. We tried to drown those voices out with pro-Israel demonstrations, even paying students as much as $250 to attend, but the results were pitifully inadequate and the effort has been abandoned. The solution? Those voices must be suppressed.
Oh ha ha, you're a regular riot of laughs.
Our pro-Israeli demonstrations were a miserable failure. And all you can do is 'oh ha ha.' Typical Nazi humor.
I wouldn't know, but I'll defer to the expert on Nazi humor.
Lol. It’s a demonstration competition.
How performative. Congrats, I guess?
"Both abroad and at home, the American way is now to send expensively overequipped cops barging into situations that desperately need de-escalation instead."
The Israel lobby didn't need overequipped cops to have the presidents of ivy league colleges fired. Or commentators and pundits sympathetic to the cause fired. No cops were needed to force the NYC mayor to hold a zoom meeting with lobby representatives:
"A high-profile group of financiers, billionaires and executives joined a private WhatsApp group to sway public opinion on the Israel-Hamas war, culminating in some members participating in a Zoom call with New York mayor Eric Adams urging him to use police to deal with protests at Columbia.
A section of the powerful pro-Israel group held a video call with Mr Adams on 26 April, in which it was discussed how to get New York City Police Department officers onto the Ivy League campus in Manhattan where one of the most high-profile pro-Gaza encampments was located..."
Blaming overequipped cops on the suppression of protest on campuses seems wildly off base.
Or maybe blatant anti-semitism is enough to convince rational people to act.
I don't see this 'blatant anti-semitism' you speak of. A number, a highly noticeable number, of the protestors are themselves Jewish or Arab. That they would be anti-semitic or motivated by anti-semitism simply doesn't make sense. If I'm not mistaken, you take sides against the Palestinian cause, correct? But you have no rational arguments, at least ones you wish to air in public, so fall back on vacuous smears, name-calling and other childish tactics.
Wassa matta, no mirrors in your vampire house?
Absent any kind of argument or justification you wish to make in public, you have to fall back on smears, name calling and school yard taunts. Why don't you have the courage to tell us the real motives for your contempt for Palestinians instead of parroting the talking heads you watch on TV? Presumably you hide behind a ridiculous pseudonym for precisely the freedom it gives you to air your bigotry.
The fact is that the students see their own concerns as an extension of the struggles of the Semites in Gaza. If you insist on viewing the matter through a lens of identity politics, the protests are pro-semitic. But let's put aside identity politics and look at reality. The protests are more anti-Israel which is not the same thing as anti-semitic.
No one here has made any secret of their contempt for Hamas, or Palestinians who support Hamas, nor of their contempt for you. If it's a mystery to you, than I suggest you try finding a mirror.
So the campus protestors are suddenly transformed from anti-semites into pro-hamas. It's just the same bullshit in new packaging. Absent any rational argument you fall back on name calling and school yard taunts. Try to move beyond parroting pro Israel talking heads. And smoke a pole, you pathetic Nazi wannabe.
You and Misek should hook up.
A strange bird. I get he hates Jews, but doesn’t seem too keen on Hitler. A week or so I asked his opinion of Solzhenitsyn’s book, 200 years together. He won the Nobel prize for literature back in the 70s and I read most of his fiction at the time. This 200 years book is notorious and remains untranslated, at least officially. It’s a history of Jews in Russia and I was curious if the Jews of the NKVD behind the Ukraine and Kazakhstan horrors were also later involved in the ethnic cleansing of Palestine in the late 40s. Kibbutzes were socialist communes, after all, and still are. The Soviets were also the first country to recognize the new state of Israel, beating the US by weeks, I believe.
Anyway, I thought this would be right up Misek’s alley, but he completely ignored the question, the topic, and continued to ride his usual hobby horses – quibbling over the exact numbers and manner of death of Jewish victims of the Nazis.
“…. the students see their own concerns..”
Lol. The students are morons who will forget all about this right after school gets out, and people stop paying attention to their tantrums.
These are your warriors, m. Again, congrats, I guess?
Let's hope you're right, and Biden does his best to see to the extermination of the Palestinians.
Besides, most of the people living in Israel are NOT Semites.
"Semitism and anti-Semitism are tricks. We always use them."
Israel's Jews, the ones who matter, are European transplants, for the most part. Not that there's anything wrong with that. They have duel citizenship, multiple passports and will up stakes and leave when the going gets tough. Netanyahu's son, for example, getting a tan on Miami Beach these past 8 months.
Hunt down and extirpate those rootless cosmopolitans, Citizen!
Kill them all and let god sort them out!
Can we please stop calling this stuff “civil disobedience?” It’s breaking the law. As Oscar Wilde said, let us call things by their proper names; it makes matters simpler.
Besides, “civil disobedience“ is a privilege of the left. When the right engages in such conduct , it’s called an existential threat to democracy.
Now you understand the (D)ifference.
Seriously. Why do you think the left elite, who control media, academia, entertainment, and huge portions of private enterprise, align themselves with the post-modern cultural Marxists? Besides feeling virtuous, they can use the shield of "oppressed people" to claim asymmetric legal status and privilege.
Part of it is ethnicity. People like Alan Dershowitz or Jerry Seinfeld, all things being equal, should be considered left elite. Both are billionaires, one in academia, one in show business. They use the shield of 'oppressed people' to defend their reactionary opinions on Israel. On other issues they are doubtless typically liberal, or post-modern cultural Marxists, whatever that means.
You are such a turd.
You didn't see that coming, did you, you earth based nazi fuck!
Reactionary opinions meaning; “You don’t have the right to murder us.”
Justifying apartheid, collective punishment, murdering civil authorities, doctors, nurses, ambulance drivers, patients, infants, journalists, aid workers, and so on. Depriving a population of food, energy, water, medicine, and all sorts of other war crimes. And for what? Because Gazans had the temerity to be born something other than Jewish. It's a disgrace.
Reactionary opinion meaning a Jewish life is worth a hell of a lot more than a Palestinian one. It's this bigotry in the end which will be Israel's downfall.
"Can we please stop calling this stuff “civil disobedience?” It’s breaking the law. "
Civil disobedience is breaking the law. So is robbing a bank and escaping with the loot. But there is a difference. David Thoreau made the practice famous when he refused to pay tax and voluntarily submitted to authorities.
"Besides, “civil disobedience“ is a privilege of the left. When the right engages in such conduct , it’s called an existential threat to democracy."
No, anyone can engage in civil disobedience. If you are concerned over someone calling your actions 'a threat to democracy,' maybe civil disobedience isn't your cup of tea. Stick to writing letters to your representatives, signing petitions, joining marches and the like.
Goddamn is your mind fucked.
Tell me you really don’t understand “voluntary agreement” and “non-aggression” again, daddy.
When does blocking access to a building become the use of force?
Instantly, when you've blocked access to a building.
cops barging into situations that desperately need de-escalation instead.
KILL ALL THE JEWS!
descalation
KILL HALF THE JEWS!
There is a big difference between a protest and a riot that involves destruction of property and blocking others from accessing building to attend classes for instruction (no matter how piss poor the instruction is) for which they have paid.
Law enforcement very seldom become involved with protesters. However, they do become involved when the protesting turns to rioting, assaults, and destruction of property. And there is no rule they can't use whatever protection and equipment available when dealing with the rioters. The key to getting the upper hand is using greater force than the criminals and that's what cops usually do.
I guess 2019-2023 just happened to other people.
I'm still struck by who owns the language:
Kenosha, WI: Social Justice Protests/civil disobedience
Seattle, WA, CHAZ: Social Justice Protests/civil disobedience
Portland 2020-2023: Social Justice Protests/civil disobedience
Minneapolis, MN: Social Justice Protests/civil disobedience
Dallas, TX (2016 protest, 5 officers killed that everyone has forgotten): Social Justice Protests/civil disobedience
Hong Kong, China: Pro-democracy protest
Kiev, Ukraine 2014 resulting in the duly elected Yanukovich's ouster: Pro-democracy protest
Washington, DC, January 6: An attack on the Capitol.
It's a fun game, but I admit I'm struggling to understand the rules.
Maybe someone else can make heads or tails of it.
"Washington, DC, January 6: An attack on the Capitol."
Washington, DC, January 6: A protest in front of the Capitol.
Washington, DC, January 6: An attack on the Capitol.
Prepositions, Rick James, it's high time you owned them.
Your prepositions are presumably Heil/Herr/Hitler.
Your prepositions are I/am/a/tiresome/moron. Find someone else's ankles to bite.
Yeah, that's hilarious. You clearly know how this table-top Riot Flashcard game is played, just as our stalwart journlismists in the media do.
And as for this version of hilarity:
Washington, DC, January 6: A protest in front of the Capitol.
Washington, DC, January 6: An attack on the Capitol.
While doing a little light research to remember some of the events (which are too many to remember where there was real loss of life, and gazillions in property damage and lost livelihoods) I came across numerous apologetic pieces in the corporate press doing exactly this torturous type of reasoning, there were several that essentially said, 'w... well, yeah, neighborhoods were on fire, and sure a bunch of people were literally murdered by um... well, so there were people in the crowd and stuff and they did some killing, some looting and some... um, burning and stuff, but when we break all this down, the people who sometimes um... like, show up a these uhh *checks style guide* social justice and pro democracy protests have their own motivations outside of um... *checks style guide* these Social Justice causes, you can't tarnish the whole thing as a violent riot. Hence, mostly peaceful you know just like this was:
Washington, DC, January 6: A protest in front of the Capitol.
Washington, DC, January 6: An attack on the Capitol.
Shorter:
George Floyd Protests in Seattle: An attack on America
George Floyd Protest in Seattle: An execution style killing of a young black man by Antifa.
There were protests in front of the Capitol on Jan. 6. They chanted, waved signs, wore funny costumes. You can't deny it. Hence all the moronic bluster and blowing smoke. Bad show, Rick James. Own it, Rick James. Prepositions can help you make your muddled thoughts coherent.
The problem with Jan 6 was not the protests in front of the Capitol. They did as much as can be expected of them. The problem is with the attack. It was a failure, half hearted virtue signalling, largely unplanned and spontaneous with no follow up. Next time you want to stop the steal, put on your big boy pants and act like you mean business.
You mean the "attack" whereby Capitol Police opened doors for protesters? Where Ray Epps (and possibly others) egged on people to enter the building?
"You mean the “attack” whereby Capitol Police opened doors for protesters? Where Ray Epps (and possibly others) egged on people to enter the building?"
Thanks for making my point. Next time you want to stop the steal, act like you had a pair. Reading up on the Bolsheviks and the Winter Palace wouldn't hurt.
So…… they should bring some guns, then?
The campus protesters might also be more effective if they would just bring their own tampons. Then they couldn’t whine about “being denied hygiene products…” Haha.
Everything Is So Terrible And Unfair!
"So…… they should bring some guns, then? "
How badly do you want to stop the steal?
Not about me, m. How bad do you want the river to the sea?
So I pulled out my dogeared copy of Hoyle and looked up Riot Flashcard. Just says under revision. I'll take my chances on blackjack.
When there is useful violence available to win “the most important election ever”, then the circumstances make all the (D)ifference.
BAMN, motherfuckers!
The First Amendment protects the right to speak one's mind. It protects this right against any government that would attempt to suppress it. It shackles the government from silencing those with whom it would disagree.
However, it does not protect the right to destroy private property, loot, burn, attack people , block highways, entrances to buildings or trash the class rooms. It does not protect the right to toss Molotov cocktails at police, federal buildings and offices.
The First Amendment also protects the right to invest in, encourage and profit from war crimes. That's the problem, don't you agree?
Like attacking a holiday rock concert?
Like putting up a billion dollar fence and letting hundreds breach it and pass through unopposed. What the fuck were you thinking?
Indeed. Yet *all* these issues are just history repeating itself.
The left sold the destruction of the USA for a *Socialist* agenda and the people bought it. As history has shown time and time again the agenda is a dead-end of destruction, disruption, violence and injustice. (see the falling of The Union of Soviet *Socialist* Republics - USSR)
You can’t allow people to start believing ‘Guns’ (Gov-Guns) are the right way to make a living or you get Gangland Politics. ‘Guns’ don’t make sh*t and government is nothing but ‘Gun-Force’ (only tool separating it from any other entity).
The USA was founded on the underlying principle that Gov-Guns only purpose was to ensure Individual Liberty and Justice for all. It was forbidden from using ‘Guns’ to STEAL a living with.
And Commie-Indoctrination Camps are ground zero of the Communist/Socialist manifesto in action. Look no further if you want to see the results of the Leftard ideology.
On the one hand, yes, we need to demilitarize the police. SWAT, in particular, should be simply abolished.
On the other hand, SWAT is not the same thing as "riot gear". Cops wearing riot gear are still regular cops.
And if you don't want to see cops wearing riot gear, the best way is to not riot. I have very little sympathy for these campus vandals. They lost their legitimacy when they went beyond non-violent protesting.
" They lost their legitimacy when they went beyond non-violent protesting."
In Dartmouth they went straight from non violent protesting to riotous tent pitching.
SWAT teams serve a purpose: To deal with violent, armed threats to the general public. I don't agree that they should be dissolved.
I DO believe, however, that MUCH more accountability is needed for when members of a SWAT team royally fuck up, or when somebody higher up in the department deploys them for a situation where they're really not appropriate, such as executing search warrants (and, all-to-often in the process, people) at 3 am, for example.
Meanwhile. While KMW lies awake worrying about pink haired Harvard students being terrified because cops don't like it when they like non violently break into buildings and shit, Biden and NATO are openly launching attacks on Russia. Anti war members risk assassination. WW3 anyone? The Lawfare State follows a straight line from phony impeachments to imprisoning J6 paraders to convicting and imprisoning the political opposition. What could go wrong? The shit is hitting multiple fans and the libertarians at Reason serve up tortillas, illegal immigrants and idiots like Chase Oliver. It's almost like they're not paying attention.
Remember that trucker convoy in Canada a while back? Yeah me neither.
https://thepostmillennial.com/tamara-lich-reveals-ontario-still-withholding-5-5-million-raised-by-freedom-convoy
Freedom Convoy protestor Tamara Lich, who has attracted continued media attention for being part of what she calls “the longest mischief trial in history” along with friend Chris Barber, revealed in a recent interview that the Ontario government is still withholding funds sent by supporters of the 2022 protest to Give Send Go.
Lich and Barber are charged with mischief, counseling others to commit mischief, intimidation, and obstructing police as members of the Freedom Convoy that polarized residents of Ottawa in 2022 and arguably began to roll back Covid mandates.
“It's locked up in an escrow I think. There's about $5.5 million that are locked up in an escrow seized by the Government of Ontario. They have a seizure order on it, as well as a forfeiture order on it. So I mean, the outcome of our criminal trial is definitely going to affect that,” Lich told The Post Millennial.
She noted that there is also a civil suit “hanging over our heads.” But she said if the donated funds ever surface, “we'll do what we said we were going to do, we've got registration forms, from some of the truckers and people that were in Ottawa, to reimburse them, as well. As you know, we always wanted to donate what was ever left over to the veterans, that was always our goal,” Lich said.
She is set to return to court on Aug. 13 for another three days of the trial and “they were trying to secure the following week. So we could finally get this wrapped up. I mean, it's the longest mischief trial in history. And mischief doesn't normally go to trial. You know, it's, it's a fine and a slap on the wrist. But in our case, you know, longest mischief trial in history.”
I got no use for campus commies but when it is widely reported that Jewish students were blocked from entering a building and there's no actual description of how they were blocked and way down the paragraphs it says Hillel or Chabad or whoever told Jewish students to not enter the building I don't think we're getting the truth.
"From the river to the sea Palestine will be free" is not remotely a call for "killing all Jews everywhere" same goes for "globalize the Intifada" and other silly chants. The words aren't "violence" or even a threat,
So, stick your fingers in your ears and sing La La La. The rest of us are concerned about the rise of violent anti-Jewish rhetoric and its long association with fascist movements.
https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/intifada
specifically : an armed uprising of Palestinians against Israeli occupation of the West Bank and Gaza Strip
And I guess you know what lies between the river and the sea?
You can agree or disagree with the desired outcome but these chants are straightforward calls for violence.
The Gaza Strip was not occupied by Israel prior to 10/07.
"but when it is widely reported that Jewish students were blocked from entering a building "
As I understand all suspected fascist sympathizers were blocked, Jew and Gentile alike, if it makes you feel any better.
You should be blocked from everything then.
True. All the best campus occupations done by their students. It's been reported widely.
You can tell a racist sympathizer by those with the Star of David or too much Whiteness. It’s there for everyone to see!
US debt lock dot org says the federal debt is
$34.786T
Well the government just prints money. Right? No they sell bonds. And then people buy the bonds and then the FED prints the money. I think. Is that what they do? OK this is pretty complicated shit but believe me they know what they're doing. I think. Right?
China is dumping those bonds and buying gold instead. India just shipped home 25% of its gold that had been stored in the UK. The western globohomo nations that are confiscating Russian assets and giving them to Ukraine signaled to the world to not purchase western investments or store assets there.
The Madison Ave boomer groomer mentality that got us here is being doubled down on with responding consequences.
The house of cards can withstand even gale force winds. I think. Right?
Look at the bright side... Former fascist police State Chile's president just announced that the nation's medieval abortion laws are about to be upgraded to the 21st Century. Time for Trumpanzee MAGAts to break out the ol' Trump Butthurt Salve and whine s'more about the erosion of Torquemada and Christian National Socialist values. Chilean women look forward to being freed of the yoke of gender-based involuntary servitude.
It should never get to the point of encampments and occupations. At this point (probably unlike the 60's, I was still in grade school so I don't recall), the school administrations and faculties not just allow but encourage this sort of over-the-top thinking and behavior. A peaceful rally is one thing, but once the students exceed a certain size or area or time, the meeting needs to be closed down immediately. You can be a libertarian, but still expect adults (which the students supposedly are, since they can vote) to show some respect and self-discipline. If the students can't understand that, they need to repeat kindergarten.
Despite no arson, no deaths, no looting, and very little property destruction, more than twice as many college students have been arrested in these protests than the number of criminals who were arrested in all of the George Floyd riots. I foolishly thought libertarians would be alarmed by that.
You foolishly forgot that libertarians believe that institutions and businesses have a right to set standards of behavior on their property.
Between 55 and 50 years ago, riot-outfitted cops on campus were on the national news every week, at least. The major difference is that, at that time, "riot-outfitted" generally meant a helmet - that wasn't really all that much protection - and, maybe, a 36" riot stick. Otherwise, the cops were wearing their usual duty uniform or a jumpsuit, if they were lucky.