Why We Remember Columbine
Some crimes linger in public memory and some crimes fade away. The Columbine massacre didn't just stay with us—it created a script for future murders.

Twenty-five years ago today, two students at Columbine High School in Littleton, Colorado, killed 12 classmates and a teacher, wounded 21 more people, and ended their rampage with a double suicide. The murders dominated news coverage for weeks, first in horrified reaction to the slaughter and then as every faction with a moral panic to promote tried to prove their chosen demon was responsible for the massacre. Even after the nightly newscasts moved on, the slayings left a deep imprint on popular culture, inspiring songs and films and more. They remain infamous to this day.
Why does Columbine still loom large? The easy answer would be that it was such a terrible crime that people found it hard to forget it. That is certainly true, but it doesn't fully answer the question, since there have been several terrible crimes since then that do not have the place in our public memory that Littleton does. More Americans, I suspect, remember the names of the Columbine killers than the name of the man behind the Las Vegas Strip massacre of 2017, even though the latter happened much more recently, killed five times as many people, and led directly to a bump stock ban whose constitutionality the Supreme Court is currently considering.
Another possible answer would be that Columbine was the first crime of its nature, but that's not really right. There were several high-profile mass killings in the decade before Columbine, including the Luby's shooting of 1991, an especially lethal but now rarely mentioned assault that killed 23 people and wounded 20 more. There was no shortage of shootings at schools before Littleton either—people may have a hard time believing this, but more students died in school shootings in 1993 than in the bloody Columbine year of 1999. It's just that those earlier killings were relatively small incidents, with one or two victims apiece, rather than the big body count in Colorado.
That was, and in fact still is, the most common form of school homicide. "The vast majority of fatal school shootings involve a single victim and single assailant…nothing like Columbine," says James Alan Fox, a criminologist at Northeastern University and one of the country's leading authorities on mass murder. In the early '90s, the public debate over school violence often centered around gangs, but that didn't reflect the typical campus shooting either. "Some was gang-related," Fox explains, "but most were just one student killing a classmate or teacher."
Nor was Columbine the first massacre to be both a mass shooting and a school shooting. In 1989, to give a particularly gruesome example, a gunman murdered five children and wounded 32 more at the Cleveland Elementary School playground in Stockton, California. Yet while that certainly attracted national coverage at the time, it didn't get the level of attention that Columbine did, nor did it linger as long in our cultural memory.
Fox has a thought about why that might be. "Stockton wasn't covered with live video," he says. "CNN was the only cable news channel and didn't have all that many subscribers. No video to show, the broadcast networks weren't about to preempt the soaps with nothing to show." With Columbine, by contrast, "a crew happened to be nearby."
Today, of course, virtually everyone is a camera crew of one. And our newsfeed scrolling isn't just interrupted when word spreads of a mass shooting: It is interrupted when there's a rumor of a mass shooting, even if the story turns out to be false. We have become hyper-aware of distant violence, and of the possibility of distant violence, and of the outside chance that the violence will not be so distant tomorrow. Columbine didn't cause that shift, but perhaps it presaged it.
Here's another possible answer: As those video images circulated through the media, Columbine changed the way the public imagines such crimes. If the popular stereotype of school violence three decades ago involved gangs, the popular stereotype of a mass shooter was a disgruntled postal worker. (Hence the expression "going postal," which is still used today though I doubt many younger Americans have any idea where it comes from.) There is a 1994 episode of The X-Files, "Blood," in which a mysterious force—apparently a mixture of chemicals and screens—compels people to commit mass murders; the character at the center of it appears in the first scene working in a post office, and at the end has taken a rifle to the top of a university clock tower (a visual reference to the 1966 tower shooting at the University of Texas at Austin). Watching it feels like an hour-long tour of the American anxieties of three decades ago. It's striking, then, that none of the killings involve children in jeopardy or take place at a K-12 school.
So perhaps Columbine created a new archetype, a new template—not just for ordinary people scared of spectacular crimes, but for alienated copycats plotting attacks of their own. In 2015, Mark Follman and Becca Andrews of Mother Jones counted at least 74 murder plots directly inspired by Columbine, 21 of which were actually carried out; a 2019 follow-up brought the total to more than 100.
To be clear: Those copycats may well have committed crimes without Columbine. The Colorado massacre gave them a script for fulfilling their violent impulses, but that does not mean it sparked their impulses in the first place. Nor did they all follow that script very closely: A surprisingly substantial number of those killers and would-be killers planned to use knives or explosives rather than guns. And Columbine wasn't necessarily the only crime that influenced them. In their 2021 book The Violence Project, for example, the criminologists Jillian Peterson and James Densley interview a perpetrator who studied three additional school shootings besides Columbine.
But these people all saw something in the massacre that appealed to them. "Plotters in at least 10 cases cited the Columbine shooters as heroes, idols, martyrs, or God," Mother Jones reported. In 14 cases, the plotters intended to act on the Columbine anniversary; three "made pilgrimages to Columbine while planning attacks."
On the 20th anniversary of the Littleton assaults, as Mother Jones was updating its count of Columbine copycats, Peterson and Densley noted in The Conversation that they had examined 46 school shootings committed since 1999, six of them mass shootings, and found that in 20 cases the attackers saw Columbine as a model. These included the murderers behind the two most infamous incidents of school violence in that period, the Sandy Hook massacre of 2012 and the Parkland killings of 2018. (The scholars also found evidence of influence abroad: In 2019, a pair of mass shooters in Brazil were reportedly inspired by the Columbine carnage.)
Peterson and Densley do not always agree with Fox—they are prone to using phrases like "mass shooting epidemic," a frame that Fox wisely rejects—but their conclusions in The Conversation are consistent with his comments about cable and live video:
Before Columbine, there was no script for how school shooters should behave, dress and speak. Columbine created "common knowledge," the foundation of coordination in the absence of a standardized playbook. Timing was everything. The massacre was one of the first to take place after the advent of 24-hour cable news and during "the year of the net." This was the dawn of the digital age of perfect remembering, where words and deeds live online forever. Columbine became the pilot for future episodes of fame-seeking violence.
Five years after they wrote that passage, even the reactions to a public mass shooting feel scripted, down to an almost fractal level—from the anti-gun activists mocking the phrase "thoughts and prayers" to the 4chan trolls blaming the slayings on the comedian Sam Hyde. Some years see more crimes like this and some years see fewer. But in both, we have made these murders into something they weren't before: a public ritual with assigned roles for everyone. That too is a legacy of Columbine.
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Maybe stop making murderers famous.
And "journalists" could do some research before running with conjecture. Remember how the killers were bullied and were getting revenge.
Seems they got a shit ton of facts on this case wrong; many to this day.
They tried to use "they were bullied" with the trans shooters.
I remember that recent tranny suicide blamed on a fight in the girls' bathroom.
The one where the trans kid started the fight? Right, gotta ignore the inconvenient facts.
The job of the press is to bury facts.
It’s all about democrat narratives. As all ‘reporters’ are democrat propagandists.
The Washington Post never publishes the second line of their motto:
Democracy Dies in Darkness
[and We Turn Out the Lights]
Yeah, the biggest reason Columbine became the template for school shooters is because the national media ran with the "bullied shooters" angle. Journalists, who consist mostly of geeks that were picked on in school (and for good reason, as we've seen since Columbine happened), saw a golden opportunity to blame the shooting on people they hate the most, the jock/prep crowd.
It was all total bullshit, of course--Harris was a complete sociopath who was a bully himself, and he and Klebold had been reported multiple times for violent threats and property destruction, but never faced any consequences for their actions (similar to the Stoneman shooter, who was let off time after time by the shitlib county sheriff before finally popping off). The only "jock" they actually killed was Isaiah Shoels, a kid who was on the JV football team and wasn't even part of the jock crowd. They notably never went after the actual "bullies" like the Hoffschneider boys, who really did rule that school.
Left-wingers, as they always do, created a dialectic out of their own personal neuroses, and they've used it as a cudgel to justify disarming the populace so that their side has the monopoly on force.
Journalists, who consist mostly of geeks that were picked on in school (and for good reason, as we’ve seen since Columbine happened), saw a golden opportunity to blame the shooting on people they hate the most, the jock/prep crowd.
Sounds like you got a much-needed comeuppance from Lewis, Gilbert, "Booger", and the guys from Lambda Lambda Lambda:
"Revenge of the Nerds" OFFICIAL Dramatic Trailer
https://youtu.be/-Bj9piJi5zU?si=FYkpGhfKWdOYN9Yo
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LOL, no, I wasn't part of the jock crowd. I just recognize the pathology of geeks, who hold on to their dumb high school pasts even more than the jocks do.
Looks like Dems are preparing for the JFK solution. Laughable felony trial and now this.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/2972422/trump-appears-target-bill-strip-secret-service-protection-convicted-felons/
H.R. 8081: the DISGRACED Former Protectees Act – or the Denying Infinite Security and Government Resources Allocated toward Convicted and Extremely Dishonorable Former Protectees Act
"Good title, Bennie! Much better than my suggestion of 'the Force Unsecure Correctional Koverage of Former Protectees Act'!"
Clinton just said this yesterday:
"Hillary Clinton: 'What Trump really wants' is to 'kill his opposition'"
Trump has just been officially sentenced to death.
Time to get rid of the democrats.
No. It’s time to get rid of traitors like you and your pal Matt Shea.
YOU are the traitor. Just like all democrats. You’re not Americans. Democrats are malignant territorial residents. Marxist trash.
You democrats are poisoning this country. Time for you to go.
So the poor sap who set himself ablaze in in front of the building where Donnie's trial is being held was a CT-addled anti-globalist, anti -government Deep State derping, nutjob like the type ZeroHedge caters to. Parts of the nutjobs manifesto:
Cryptocurrency is our first planetary multi-trillion-dollar Ponzi scheme
..
The March 2023 bank failures were all intentional: the banks were used to move out stolen Ponzi money
..
It is a Ponzi scheme so large that it created global inflation, which is why the price of Bitcoin has been a remarkable leading indicator for inflation rates
..
Funneling trillions of dollars in stolen cash through the stock market created the largest stock-market anomaly in history.
..
What does this revelation tell us? That our government is conning us completely. That
Bill Clinton was secretly on (former CIA Director) George H.W. Bush’s side, and that the
Democrat vs. Republican division has been entirely manufactured ever since: Clinton is with Bush; Gore is with Bush; Trump is with Hillary, and so on
https://www.newsweek.com/read-max-azzarello-manifesto-about-lighting-himself-fire-trump-trial-1892368
It ties it all together - the Simpson cartoon HArvard connection, rob Lowe, etc
This guy had a real talent like Alex Jones and Glenn Beck x 10.
#TheyIsOutToGetUs
Your incessant need to connect all violence to the right is akin to Joe's DoJ labeling all criminals white even when they are not. Good to see you pushing any leftist narrative you see. Definitely makes your claims of not being a Democrat seem valid.
This nutjob didn't have a partisan outlook as far as his manifesto read.
Jesse Walker (above author for Reason) used to publish great articles on the paranoid CT-addled political mind that mostly came from the conservative side.
What they all have in common is that some secret cabal is vying for world domination. And THAT is a conservative phenomenon.
I recall when libertarians were almost exclusively skeptics like myself who believed incompetence was the enemy - not some secret society bent on world domination.
Those days are gone.
He was an anarcho communist dumdum.
https://twitter.com/reddit_lies/status/1781401076798734663
Love how you walked into that. Showing hour desperation. Lol.
He literally blames Peter Thiel for fucks sake a guy you soros worshippers hate.
Fucking hilarious.
I'm one of the "financial criminals" he hates, you moron. And I have no issue with Peter Thiel.
But like Barry Goldwater (whom I am closest to politically) I despise the Christo-fascists who have taken over the Republican Party.
But you deftly changed the subject because it makes you CT-addled ZeroHead dipshits look stupid.
Youre one of the corporate fascists he hates dumbass. His complaints were primarily regarding government and finance being mixed. That is the heart of his manifesto. But he is still a communist retard.
So he was a communist that hated fascists then. At least you got that part right as commies and Nazis (right wing) have always hated each other.
Do you not know what anarcho is?
Lol. God damn shrike. Full retard already.
There are two wings of communists. Anarchist and statist. Be is on the Anarchist side.
There are also anarchist capitalists and capital fascists like yourself. The side who wants state control of industry through government control is fascism. That is what you abd mussolini were for. The fascists and state communists both believed in state control of capital, just different sets of tools.
Read a fucking book.
There is one wing of MAGA - top-man worshipping fascists like yourself.
Guess you realize you lost the argument.
It's sad how many people are salivating at the prospect of a Trump dictatorship rounding up illegals and prosecuting political dissenters. And it will all be ok because Democrats did it first.
What is sad is how your hated if a man has made you defend bullshit like shrikes. Even defending state actions against your perceived enemies under the guise of what you think Trump might do as justification. Defending lawfare. Defending fascism.
Youre no better by the any means necessary antifascists. Lol.
Lol, fucking pathetic pedo.
It’s sad how many people are salivating at the prospect of a Trump dictatorship
Sarcasmic is one of them, because he needs Trump to become a dictator to excuse his own consorting with "respectable centrists" who turned out to be demons and fascists.
Unfortunately for Sarc, Trump didn't do anything remotely dictatorial in his last presidency, but the people who are warning Sarcasmic that he'll do it this time have so far,
used the FBI to illegally spy on political opponents and journalists,
used the FBI and the DHS to illegally censor dissent,
used the DOJ and crooked prosecutors to file novel charges against political opponents in order to disqualify them from elections,
deliberately lied under oath in trials of dissident protesters,
deliberately witheld evidence in trials of dissident protesters,
had the DOJ use the FBI to target dissent at everything from school board meetings to baseball games,
had active FBI agents act as provocateur's to incite riots and larp as white supremacists.
ad nauseam...
Thanks ML for showing some of the many of the excuses that will be used. “Democrats did this, this and this, which is sooo much worse.”
Can you share your list of Democrats you'd like to see prosecuted by the incoming Trump administration?
Just wow. Sarc again justifies his statist support now under the theory of what Trump might do. It is always projection with sarc.
“Thanks ML for showing some of the many of the excuses that will be used.”
You’re a fucking fascist.
No seriously.
Nobody can look at the complete and utter demolition of civil rights going on right now, and say, “You know what the REAL problem is? People I hate will be able to point to all this and use it as an excuse if they ever get power.”
I mean that’s just absolutely fucking insane.
>"Nobody can look at the complete and utter demolition of civil rights going on right now, and say, “You know what the REAL problem is? People I hate will be able to point to all this and use it as an excuse if they ever get power.”"
Yeah. That's crazy bad. It tells me these folks are unserious at best.
"It’s sad how many people are salivating at the prospect of a Trump dictatorship rounding up illegals and prosecuting political dissenters."
Gee, cannot fathom what it is like to have a President prosecuting political dissenters.
"Gee, cannot fathom what it is like to have a President prosecuting political dissenters."
Nice of Sarcasmic to warn about shit that's already been happening for the last four years.
“Yeah. That’s crazy bad. It tells me these folks are unserious at best.”
Sarc is worse than unserious. He consistently covers for fascism.
Nobody can look at the complete and utter demolition of civil rights going on right now, and say, “You know what the REAL problem is? People I hate will be able to point to all this and use it as an excuse if they ever get power.”
I'm afraid that I just don't get outraged anymore. Ain't worth it. And I don't see an "utter demolition of civil right going on now" either. The demolition of rights has been going on for a long time now. Wickard, qualified immunity, and third party doctrine have been far more devastating than anything that's happening right now.
My point is that based upon what I've seen from Trump defenders like yourself, while they're outraged at what the current administration is doing, they are also itching to do the same thing back.
I also think they will be sorely disappointed.
Gee, cannot fathom what it is like to have a President prosecuting political dissenters.
Is that the latest euphemism for the peaceful J6 tourists?
“I’m afraid that I just don’t get outraged anymore. Ain’t worth it.”
If you had even one libertarian bone in your body, even a tiny one like the stapes, you would absolutely incensed by the catastrophic violations of the constitution and the wholesale destruction of civil liberties by the US government over the last four years.
Well sarc is fucking lying. He gets outraged all the time. In the last week he has cried about being called an open border leftist, a fascist, etc. On Trump he rages often, such as here, or when he called Trump Hitler. Sarc just lies.
Sarc is all in for the kiddie raper.
Also anarchist and communists are mutually exclusive
Not true. Anarcho communism believes solely in communal property and no property rights. Think of a hippie community or leftist communes like CHAZ.
Instead of state force used to give to those who need from those who make, they use mob violence.
Anarcho communism is a thing celebrated by the left.
@sarc: “Democrats did this, this and this, which is sooo much worse.”
Yes, generally speaking, someone actually doing something bad is worse than the hypothetical that another person might do the same thing in the future.
Tha fuck.
Only in so much as Nazi’s believed in the national flavor and Commies believed in the international flavor.
Both of the are still children of the economic left you retarded fuck.
I read his manifesto and frankly I've seen crazier shit on CNN.
He's almost Joe Scarborough-esque.
Let's not get carried away.
But if we do, where would you like the accelerants delivered?
Scarborough should set himself on fire too. His bitch can join him.
It didn’t sound too crazy to me; but I’m a madman.
But like Barry Goldwater (whom I am closest to politically)
The hicklib pederast who simps for Democrats all the time lies again, as Barry Goldwater was the first right-wing populist who was hated by the GOP establishment who are shriek's allies, such as the Bulwark crowd.
You’re not that stupid. You know that a MAGA Republican would never support a secularist pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-Soviet, small gov proponent like Goldwater or myself. MAGA would prefer to imprison Goldwater over putting him into the White House.
Define "MAGA", trollio.
What is its philosophy, its policy or ideas?
He has no idea.
You know that a MAGA Republican would never support a secularist pro-choice, pro-gay, anti-Soviet, small gov proponent like Goldwater or myself.
But you're not anti-Soviet, you're pro-marxist and pro-criminal. That's why you're a Sorosite.
Around that time Bill Moyers was outing gay republicans.
Anyone who would consider themselves an anarcho communist can't be in thier right mind.
I recall when libertarians were almost exclusively skeptics like myself who believed incompetence was the enemy – not some secret society bent on world domination.
I think most libertarians still think that way. The folks in these comments screaming about deep state, nazis, leftists and commies are not libertarians.
Edit after seeing a grey box: Do fuck off, fuckstain. When I want your opinion I’ll shit in a bowl of cereal and eat it.
Finally. Self admittance from sarc. Lol.
Sarc just went full shitsy, lol.
“I eat pieces of shit like you for breakfast.”
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=3LAnmnS0-9g&pp=ygUqaSBlYXQgcGllY2VzIG9mIHNoZSBsaWtlIHlvdSBmb3IgYnJlYWtmYXN0
Nobody clowns themself like sarc.
Sarc needs to be put down at the vet too.
Edit after seeing a grey box
It just kills you that nobody else gives a shit about the mute button.
I mean if he was truly ignoring me he would ignore me lol.
I see you're back to scoring points.
sarcasmic 2 years ago
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Mute User
Says the guy who mutes anyone who points out the logical conclusions of his emotional rants.
https://reason.com/2021/12/15/net-neutrality-fcc-repeal-internet-faster-better/?comments=true#comment-9259292
Lol.
He’s a pussy. Sarc’s been hiding from me for over a year now.
What's my rank?
Not even in the game bro. You and ABC aren't muted yet.
I don't keep track. You'll have to ask Big Mac.
You're the only one who's ever mentioned 'ranks' here. Nobody else has.
You must know something RMac doesn't.
Sure you do pussy.
WE WANT THE LIST!
There is no list. Sarc isn’t that organized.
Just like Milwaukee Best Ice is top of his beers, but he will drink anything with alcohol, I'm top of his list.
An unproven boast.
LV has me at -4000.
I imagine it scribbled on a bar napkin in a state of rage.
You know all those things are the natural enemies of libertarians/individualist right?
Oj Simpson the black face of white crime
At least he just yeeted himself and didn't try to assassinate a bunch of Congressman like your ally James Hodgkinson did.
This morning I saw a picture of him in a Bernie Sanders t-shirt, you lying pedo.
Appropriate. Bernie having been kicked out of a communist community for not helping and just taking.
He was an antiFa anarcho-communist whose profile pic was him shaking hands with Bill Clinton.
You're the worst liar on this platform. I'm sure some people were hoping it was you.
Somehow it didn't work on me, but that could be just because I mix names up a lot. Columbine I remember is in Colorado, but I keep thinking it's the Batman shooting because that's the one that made more of an impression on me, probably because of my sense of humor; I would've been in the audience applauding, thinking it was all part of the act. Sandy Hook I keep mixing up because I keep thinking it's the one in New Jersey, so when I see all these ads for Sandy Hook Promise I think they have something to do with preserving the beach, and I'm like, what does that have to do with guns? Oh, yeah, the ordnance that used to be there. The JFK assassination impressed me only as something that pre-empted the weekend's TV shows, and I thought, what's the big deal? He nearly got us killed, he deserved it.
And by now I don't even believe he was the target, but just got in the way of bullets intended for Connally and Oswald.
The CIA and Johnson killed him. Jfk want to break up the deep state, and Johnson wanted to be president
But Johnson also would've wanted Connally out of his way, so I can't say he wasn't behind it.
And The Mob wanted JFK gone to get rid of Bobby. It was a group project.
Ten years ago I thought the JFK assassination theories were the stupidest thing ever. Now I'm like "Of course they fucking killed him."
When they ripped the mask off in 2019 and 2020 it was the craziest thing.
Anyone who bothers to look at the facts will see that the "lone gunman" is preposterous and that there was government and Mob involvement. It's been so thoroughly researched by a variety of authors that there just isn't any doubt.
I watched Oswald get murdered in Dallas live on black and white TV. I remember it to this day. Even then my pre teen brain was telling me that something about all of this didn't make sense. Half a century of documentaries, books and internet theories have not convinced me otherwise. When Trump was convinced by the deep state to withhold the JFK files from the public, in contravention of law, it became obvious that the CIA was responsible. Even RFK Jr. says so. Ancient history and irrelevant because we have plenty of other evidence that the IC is a criminal organization. If Trump gets reelected I hope he releases the files and the 11 inch binder, but I doubt that he will. And if he does there's no doubt he'll be JFKed. If it doesn't happen in the meantime.
You're mixed up on a lot of things, Roberta, like how Libertarianism regards Slavery, War, Medicare/Medicaid, and Welfare Statism. Your take on mass murder would be a foregone conclusion from all of these.
If Jane hadn't beat you to it, you could've had your own brand of CrAzY-mIxEd-Up Seasonings.
Just forget you ever heard about Libertarianism.
JFK was shot from NASA's secret laser weapon on Mars.
A "Laser"
Exactamente
Another psycho lefty died after burning himself alive.
2 down, how do we make it a trend?
We need common sense flammable liquid control.
Upstream Buttplug and Sarcasmic are trying to blame it on Trump/conservatives/MAGA/whatever. Amazing stuff.
Blaming Trump is outrageous, especially since we know the real cause was Climate Change.
Death Worshitters gotta Worshit Death, I guess!!! Is the Evil One telling you to Worshit and Celebrate Suicide again, ye Servant and Serpent of the Evil One?
Suicide marks an utter failure of a human to practice a tiny iota of love, even enough to preserve his or her own life (in the face of anything other than progressing futile and painful efforts to thwart the inevitable, as in being medically tortured to live another few minutes or hours; but I digress). Any and every deliberate, pointless suicide makes me sad... Does that make ME an evil person, perhaps, in your stunted hate-filled mind?
Conservaturds making friends, gathering votes, and influencing people by... PEDDLING KOOL-AID AND SUICIDE!!! How's it workin' for ya, servant and serpent of the Evil One?
EvilBahnFuhrer, drinking EvilBahnFuhrer Kool-Aid in a spiraling vortex of darkness, cannot or will not see the Light… It’s a VERY sad song! Kinda like this…
He’s a real Kool-Aid Man,
Sitting in his Kool-Aid Land,
Playing with his Kool-Aid Gland,
His Hero is Jimmy Jones,
https://www.britannica.com/biography/Jim-Jones
Loves death and the dying moans,
Then he likes to munch their bones!
He’s truly, completely a necrophiliac,
His brain, squirming toad-like, is REALY, really whack!
Has no thoughts that help the people,
He wants to turn them all to sheeple!
On the sheeple, his Master would feast,
Master? A disaster! Just the nastiest Beast!
Kool-Aid man, please listen,
You don’t know, what you’re missin’,
Kool-Aid man, better thoughts are at hand,
The Beast, to LEAVE, you must COMMAND!
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
Hey EvilBahnFuhrer …
If EVERYONE who makes you look bad, by being smarter and better-looking than you, killed themselves, per your wishes, then there would be NO ONE left!
Who would feed you? Who’s tits would you suck at, to make a living? WHO would change your perpetually-smelly DIAPERS?!!?
You’d better come up with a better plan, Stan!
It was actually Flavor Aid that was used at Jonestown.
Large barrels filled with the grape variety, laced with the cyanide and a variety of tranquillizer drugs, were found half-consumed amidst the hundreds of bodies. Kool-Aid, rather than Flavor Aid, is usually erroneously referred to as the drink used in the massacre.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flavor_Aid#:~:text=Jonestown%20massacre,-The%20drink%20became&text=Large%20barrels%20filled%20with%20the,drink%20used%20in%20the%20massacre.
Ye are correct! Either way... Shit ain't Kool!!!
Didn't the hale bop comet guys actually use coolaid?
Heaven's Gate? Apple sauce and barbiturates ass I recall... "The coroner's report found that they had laced apple sauce with barbiturates and paired it with vodka and hydrocodone to make sure it got the job done." From https://www.grunge.com/488948/disturbing-details-found-in-the-heavens-gate-victims-autopsy-reports/
Sponsored by Nike.
Applesauce I think
Apple sauce and barbiturates… “The coroner’s report found that they had laced apple sauce with barbiturates and paired it with vodka and hydrocodone to make sure it got the job done.” From https://www.grunge.com/488948/disturbing-details-found-in-the-heavens-gate-victims-autopsy-reports/
I stink that we need MOAH laws against BOTH Apple sauce AND barbiturates!!! THAT will fix shit all!!!
A bear walks into a bar and asks the bartender for a beer...
Walks into a bar
The bartender says, "Sorry, we don't give beer to bears in bars." The bear replies, "If you don't give me a beer, I'll eat that lady over there." The bartender says, "Go ahead." So the bear eats the lady and asks for a beer. The bartender says, "Sorry, we don't give beer to bears on drugs." "What do mean," asks the bear. "I'm not on drugs." "Yes, you are, that was the bar bitch you ate."
https://www.reddit.com/r/Jokes/comments/7y9nx7/a_bear_walks_into_a_bar_and_asks_the_bartender/
Pretty sure most people forgot Columbine until you brought it up again. Why the hell did you bring it up?
Deflect from the rise in trans shootings?
I suspect most of the school mass shooters had sex-related problems, but before the Trans fad we didn't have much vocabulary to talk about it. As I've opined here before, I believe that's a major factor with Islamist terrorists as well, given the ubiquity of sexual abuse of boys in that part of the world.
They were all on SSRIs. One side effect is loss of libido. Another is losing your mind and murdering a bunch of people.
There is direct evidence that SSRIs lead to manic episodes in some people, but it will be another 50 years before they are banned.
SSRIs lead to manic episodes in people with bipolar, often.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/intl/blog/bipolar-101/202008/can-antidepressants-cause-problems-bipolar-patients
I am too lazy to look it up, but genetic analysis can now point to which people should NOT take SSRIs, for this reason!
Democrats are turning trannies into suicide bombers. They just haven’t quite perfected the formula yet.
For a while I have been idly working on a play set around a Congressional hearing into the US army paying for prostitutes who would give then captured terrorists blow jobs - the army could prove that it was a far more effective technique to get the terrorists to open up than anything else, but of course the politicians are outraged over taxpayer dollars going to pay for hookers...
Too true!!!
https://www.theatlantic.com/health/archive/2014/12/the-humane-interrogation-technique-that-works-much-better-than-torture/383698/ (Paywalled, sad to say) says that if the interrogator pretends to admire or at least respect the motives of some evil-doing asshole, said asshole will be HIGHLY likely to tell you ALL about how Noble They Are! (So I have read; I may or may not have the best link. "Perplexity" AI steered me to it.)
Are you sure your lay isn’t really about giving the terrorists small children to fuck? That would be the more Shrike thing to do. Right Shrike?
Are we sure the Columbine killers weren't trans? Did anybody ask them?
Retroactive trannies?
Personally, the Columbine murders mean as much to me as the murders of Darius Ross, Heather Talley, and Nicholas Edwards.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/indiana-men-arrested-2018-shootings-people
Why are those murders significant to you? Did you know them?
I knew none of them so they are of equal significance.
Sooo...Do they all mean something or all mean nothing?
Just wanted to know so I could determine whether to consider you a fellow human being or to look for you in the news someday.
Looks like Japan needs better misinformation police.
Thousands of Japanese Citizens Flood Streets to Protest WHO, WEF, Bill Gates, Vaccines
https://slaynews.com/news/thousands-japanese-citizens-flood-streets-protest-who-wef-bill-gates-vaccines/
Protests erupted over the weekend as the people of Japan voiced their concerns over “infectious disease,” “climate change,” and “public health” becoming potent tools for an unprecedented push toward a totalitarian surveillance society.
From the bustling streets of Ikebukuro to the gatherings at Higashi-Ikebukuro Central Park, the sheer scale of participation speaks volumes.
Organizers estimate that a monumental 100,000 protesters joined the rallies.
They demanded answers on crucial issues, such as the huge spikes in excess deaths and the lack of transparency on the adverse effects following vaccinations.
The protest not just opposed potential mandatory vaccinations but also the perceived overreach of health authorities and their ties with global Big Pharma.
They were echoing a distressing sentiment of disenfranchisement among the populace.
Demonstrators criticized the lack of explanations for a sharp increase in excess deaths and demanded accountability and clarity on vaccine-related casualties.
Any numbers available on these "excess deaths"?
Pretty well established but you're more likely to get official numbers from Europe. Complete blackout in the US but even here the official numbers can't hide it, they just claim it's a mystery. A lot of European and Asian countries are banning covid jabs for everyone except the elderly. A little searching will get you there.
Berenson would be a good place to start.
A search revealed lots of articles about why Alex Berenson is full of shit.
Folks, there was an attack on a school in 1764, before there was even a United States of America:
List of School Shootings in the United States by Death Toll--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_school_shootings_in_the_United_States_by_death_toll
The deadliest school attack in United States history in 1927 didn't even involve guns, but explosives and was conducted by a local public school official:
Bath School Disaster--Wikipedia
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bath_School_disaster
And most noteworthy about the Columbine copycats:
But these people all saw something in the massacre that appealed to them. "Plotters in at least 10 cases cited the Columbine shooters as heroes, idols, martyrs, or God,"
Hmmm...Wunner how many of these copycats would have plotted and committed their horrible, evil deeds if they had no concept of heroism, idolatry, martyrdom, or God to attribute to the Columbine murderers?
The only real lessons to draw from any of these atrocities is that there are people out there who would murder you if they could and Kids, don't hang around anyplace where it's about to happen!
Kids, treat others according to the NAP/NIFF, go only where you are treated according to the NAP/NIFF, and the whole world and the Natural Universe is your lifelong school and education if you treat it that way!
Sometimes I think you're doing a parody.
At this point, the seriously injured Valeen Schnurr began screaming, "Oh, my God! Oh, my God!"[137][141] In response, Klebold asked Schnurr if she believed in the existence of God; when Schnurr replied she did, Klebold asked "Why?" and commented "God is gay." Klebold reloaded but walked away from the table.
Got to be. Fucker has God Derangement Syndrome instead of TDS. It's tedious.
If people still believe either that the Columbine mass murders were motivated by Atheism or that the Columbine mass murderers were "heroes, idols, martyrs, or God," then clearly I am not the one who suffers from "God Derangement Syndrome."
And if me stating plain fact is "tedious," oh well, sucks to be you. Take your B-12 shots or not and either keep up or go screw.
I think I will go screw. Thanks and God bless.
Sounds about right, you going to screw.
And like I told the sarcastic EBTer who wanted me to break policy and hand-key an EBT number he had scrawled on paper:
"Can't do it. And no thanks, I'm good. I have no need for blessing."
(Hell, he needed the "blessing" more than I do if he uses a Bottomless American Flag Credit Card to feed himself...or more likely uses somebody else's. Some "blessing.")
*Rolls eyes.*
Nearly all school shootings are motivated by the drugs democrat school teachers and administrators push on kids. Sprinkle in the near complete emasculation of young boys, and you have a can’t miss recipe for school shooters.
Literal emasculation is coming.
According to The Gospel of Moose-Mammary-Necrophilia, "God is gay" is the LEAST of shit!!! According to The Gospel of Moose-Mammary-Necrophilia, "God" wants all politically incorrect people (those who object to Her Finer Points of Self-Worshit) to... COMMIT SUICIDE just like Her Heroes at Columbine did!!!
Mammary-Necrophilia-Farter-Fuhrer, Supreme Demonic Director of Decay, Destruction, and Death, will now SPEAK! HARKKK silently and RESPECTFULLY, all ye lowly heathens, as She Directs Death, and announces WHICH few of us MIGHT deserve to live, and WHO all deserves to DIE-DIE-DIE!!!
https://reason.com/2022/01/25/did-these-three-officers-willfully-deprive-george-floyd-of-his-constitutional-rights/?comments=true#comment-9323626
“You should really join ᛋᛋqrlsy, ᛋᛋhrike. You two goosestepping fascists offing yourselves would definitely be a mitzvah.”
-Quote MammaryBahnFuhrer the "Expert Christian Theologian", AKA Mother’s Lament, with a head full of cement
So Mammary-Necrophilia-Fuhrer, Supreme Demonic Director of Decay, Destruction, and Death... WHEN are You going to STOP stealing the IDs of Your victims, and then posting kiddie porn in THEIR names, and then blaming THEM?
Inquiring minds want to KNOW, dammit!
“You should really join ᛋᛋqrlsy, ᛋᛋhrike. You two goosestepping fascists offing yourselves would definitely be a mitzvah.”
Does anyone here aside from ᛋᛋqrlsy think that this was remotely wrong?
***IF*** Your dog-pile of tribal tribe-barking dogshit ALL agree with YOU, Oh Queen of the Internet Cesspool... With YOUR PervFectly Fashionable purse, hairstyle, and whorestyle... So that they ALL agree with YOU, Pervfectly... Twat DIFFERENCE does it make? Will Ye PervFectly wish away the forces of gravity, and... Float Away?
PLEASE Float Away, Pervfectly reality-distorting Pervfect Pervert!!! SOME of us like to live in Reality, NOT in Real-Shitty!
See.
None are so blind ass the Perfect Ones who adamantly REFUSE to see!
Yes.
So now that ye Perfectly see it my way... Start here!
If you ever come around to wanting to work on your affliction, EvilBahnFuhrer, start here: M. Scott Peck, The People of the Lie, the Hope for Healing Human Evil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/0684848597/reasonmagazinea-20/
People who are evil attack others instead of facing their own failures. Peck demonstrates the havoc these “people of the lie” work in the lives of those around them.
A helpful book is to be found here: M. Scott Peck, Glimpses of the Devil
https://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1439167265/reasonmagazinea-20/
The initial claim right after the Columbine mass murder was that one of the mass murderers asked a girl: "Do you believe in God?" and then shot her dead and made her a martyr of her faith after she said "yes."
Not even Christians with any respect for evidence believe this.
7 Myths about the Columbine Shooting
https://www.thegospelcoalition.org/blogs/trevin-wax/7-myths-about-the-columbine-shooting/
Also, after the Columbine mass murder, the Religious Right crowd came out from under their rocks to claim that this mass murder happened "Cuz th' Supreem Kort tuuk Gawd frumm publik skoolz!"
This even though God was thoroughly ensconced in public schools during most of the history of school attacks from 1764 onward and even though half of States didn't have official State-sponsored prayers in public schools even when the Supremes ruled against it.
Yet when I assert something that everyone could get behind, that the NAP/NIFF Principle should prevail in education of children as with every other human endeavor, nobody has anything to say in support of that!
NAP/NIFF Principle sounds good to me! SOME few of us are NOT fake libertarians!
The thing I remember most about Columbine was like at Uvalde the cops didn't rush in to confront the shooters.
Yeah, that was shameful! As best as I recall, at Columbine, about 800 cops milled around collecting overtime, doing nothing, for ? 5, 6 hours or so, after these assholes punched their own tickets. Meanwhile, at least 1 teacher died, who didn't have to die. Cowardly cops!!! They should have gone in MUCH earlier!
It was somewhat understandable in that case. The protocol at the time was containment, locking down the site because they expected hostages or bombs were in play. Columbine was the case that taught police about the school shooter phenomenon (and seemingly also taught the copycats), and that engaging the shooter at all costs is the goal.
Somewhat forgotten is just how absolutely clean was the police response in Nashville. Police were firing on Hale 12 minutes after the 911 call was made. They weren’t waiting around for a guy with a riot shield.
Extreme right-winger Bill Maher calls out Disney and drag queen story hour for pedophilia. Says DeSantis was right.
Chemjeff faints. ENB, Lancaster and Shackford apoplectic with rage.
Twat about Drag Queen Spermy Daniels Hour, though?
I told ya so!!!!
The Sad Saga of the Stolen Erections
And lo, it came to pass, that Tim the Enchanter blew upon His Magic Flute, and led me to a secret cave (the Cave of Caerbannog), whereupon mystic runes carved into the very living rock foretold of a day to come.
This sad, sad day has now manifested itself, just as foretold. The Promised One had been delivered to us, and was to fertilize His Queen, Spermy-Stormy Daniels, in an amazing scene; a glaze of Vaseline. Their offspring were to be called Strumpets… Which is a concatenation of Stormy and Trump. They were to number in the millions… About 332 million; enough for all residents of the USA to be issued one Strumpet per each resident, to sit on his or her right shoulder, and make sure that each resident stayed WAAAY Righteous. Each Strumpet was to progressively exert more and more Righteousness Control over each resident, by covering them in Strumpet Vines.
Sad to say, the Bad Bider-Grunch stole Trumpsmas AND Trump’s Erections! The stolen erections prevented the birth of the 332 million Strumpets, in the world’s WORST mass murder (genocide) so far! Even Saint Babbitt could NOT save the Strumpets!
This is the Sad Tale of the Demise of the USA!
What does that have to do with what I posted, Sqrlsy?
No, really, explain your thought process here. I'm genuinely interested.
Y'all fanatic right-wing wrong-nuts should VERY easily see and recognize twataboutism!!! ALL evil deeds of Der TrumpfenFarter-Fuhrer may be excused by a wave of the hand and an utterance of "Twatabout Hillary?!?!?"
You said stuff-and-stuff about drag queen story hour, so I sprung twit for twat on Y'all Perfect Twit-Twats, and mentioned "Twatabout Spermy Daniels Story Hour"!
No, I said Bill Maher said stuff about drag queen story hour. I said stuff about kreemjeff and the Reasonistas.
You can't read real good, huh?
I didn't say that You were a Pervfect Asshole... I said that the fella behind the tree said that!
Strumpets sound like an incredibly tasty bakery item.
I'm not sure, butt "strumpets" may also refer to violins using cat-guts for strings in the old days! To make music, you'd "strum" on your "pets"; hence, strum-pets!
Which also reminds me of another story BEGGING to be written!
Speaking of fiddles and fiddlesticks and kerfluffled-dicks…
Lemme lay on ya, some alternative history schmistory…
Fiddlin’ Around with the Hatfields & the McCoys…
Y’all ever hear of that them thar Hatfields or McCoys? There in down-home Appalachia?
You’ve read your “alternate history” books, yes? Harry Turtledove, etc.? I’ve been thinking of writing fiction like that… But I need a history expert to help me out! Anyone out there game to co-authoring a work of such fiction with Yours Truly?
So here, check this out: The Hatfields and the McCoys get in a spat, just like in our timeline… Except they don’t shoot and kill each other, they challenge each other to a down-home, ol’-time country hoe-down, fiddle contest. Each family puts up their finest 8 or 10 fiddlers, to go at it, spelling one another (per each family team) through vacations, eating, sleeping, and potty breaks, so that the fiddling contest can go on and on and on… This is the song that never ends, my friends, and it goes on and on… Till the losing side gives up, or it goes on… FOREVER!
So I’m first-off, looking for a good working title…
I’m thinking…
I’m a-thinkin’…
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“The Endless Cycle of Violins” might work!
The only people for whom Columbine lives on for are left wing propagandists who realized they could push any lie to serve their narrative. Keep the narrative alive Jesse.
So then the ONLY purpose of studying human evil is for serving left wing propagandists? Does human evil even EXIST among those who aren’t leftists? Right-wingers are all PERVFECT, then, perhaps?
Just curious... In Pervfect right-wing nations, where there IS no evil... Do they even need any police? On a regular basis, I see Pervfect right-wing posters HERE calling for the extermination of leftists, so I would assume that in Pervfect right-wing nations, the leftists ARE exterminated! After that, you'd need NO police, right?
“Remind me to write a popular article on the compulsive reading of news. The theme will be that most neuroses and some psychoses can be traced to the unnecessary and unhealthy habit of daily wallowing in the troubles and sins of five billion strangers. The title is 'Gossip Unlimited' — no, make that 'Gossip Gone Wild.'” — Robert A. Heinlein
HOW then can I even CUNTSIDER this EVIL idea of sleeping soundly at night, without daily wallowing in the troubles and sins of five billion strangers!?!?!?
EXPLAIN to me (as ye would, to a child)!!!!
To reply to the (rhetorical question?) why do we remember Columbine, my response is that I never DO remember Columbine unless someone brings it up.
Biggest improvement I ever made for my own peace of mind was to stop watching the 11 o'clock news every night. None of it matters, and if it does, you can see it in the headlines with a quick scan the next morning.
When I was in high school ten billion years ago, I briefly knew a luscious young blonde Babe named "Holly Frost" who went to Columbine high school in Littleton, Colorado... YEARS before these assholes did their dirty deeds!!!!
"Holly Frost", Honey-Baby-Sweetheart Darling, where ARE ye?!?!?
The first such mass shooting was at the University of Texas in 1966. People assumed the shooter had something wrong with his brain, and it wasn't widely copied.
Now every mass shooting makes the shooters famous on 24-hour cable news and on the Internet, and the news media never talk about the psychoactive medications the shooters are taking.
Also the news media never talk about the psychoactive foods that the offenders are eating!!! Remember the "Twinkie defense"? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twinkie_defense
"even the reactions to a public mass shooting feel scripted, down to an almost fractal level" - and don't forget the Onion headline, "'No Way to Prevent This,' Says Only Nation Where This Regularly Happens."
Psychiatry and Big Pharma created these mass killers and the Main Stream Media made them infamous. They all have blood on their hands.
Thank you Jesse.