Immigrants From Nice Countries
Plus: The Vatican talks gender theory, Chinese nationals react to pirated 3 Body Problem episodes, and more...

Following up on those shitholes: Donald Trump, at a fundraiser in Florida's Palm Beach this past Saturday night, decided to clarify some of his thoughts on immigration.
He referred to his comments back in 2018, when he questioned why the U.S. should be letting in immigrants from what he called "shithole countries" like Haiti and Nigeria, saying that Haitians "all have AIDS" and that Nigerians should "go back to their huts" and that America should let in more Norwegians.
"And when I said, you know, Why can't we allow people to come in from nice countries, I'm trying to be nice," Trump said at the dinner on Saturday night. "Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?"
"They took that as a very terrible comment, but I felt it was fine," he followed up.
Then Trump turned his attention to the influx at the southern border, saying that the Latin American gang members who are purportedly flooding in "make the Hells Angels look like extremely nice people."
"They've been shipped in, brought in, deposited in our country, and they're with us tonight," said Trump. "In fact, I don't think they're on this island, but I know they're on that island right there. That's West Palm," Trump said, pointing across the water. "Congratulations over there. But they'll be here. Eventually, they'll be here."
Trump probably means that as a fearmongering line, along the lines of "immigrants will take over, and these previously nice communities will cease to be." But there's also a positive interpretation (that Trump surely doesn't mean): Eventually, immigrants—even those from dire situations and disintegrating countries—do sometimes make their way to the Palm Beach political fundraisers, so to speak, or to levels of wealth and influence.
Immigrants make it rain: Roughly half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants. Jeff Bezos, who helmed Amazon, is the son of a Cuban immigrant. Steve Jobs, who helmed Apple, is the son of a Syrian immigrant. Costco was co-founded by the son of Canadian-Romanian immigrants. Alphabet/Google CEO Sundar Pichai was born to a Tamil family in India before making his way to California. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella was also born in India, later traveling to the U.S. to attend school in Wisconsin.
Roughly 55 percent of America's billion-dollar startups that are privately traded—also called unicorns—have immigrant founders or co-founders. Avant co-founder Al Goldstein, an Uzbek Jew, came to America at the age of 8 as a refugee. His co-founders Paul Zhang and John Sun, both born in China, also immigrated to the U.S. as children.
Some detractors might stress that the above success stories did not stem from asylum seekers. And that is true. But immigrants do tend to be more likely than native-born residents to become entrepreneurs (more on this from Harvard Business Review). And research from the National Foundation for American Policy finds that "there is generally no reliable way under U.S. immigration law for foreign nationals to start a business and remain in the country after founding a company," so "successful immigrant entrepreneurs in America are almost always refugees or family-sponsored and employer-sponsored immigrants." We simply don't know by which route those who most benefit the American economy will come; all we can look to are the statistics we have from company founding in the past. If Silicon Valley's trajectory over the last 30 years is any indication, Trump is quite correct in saying that "eventually, they'll be here"—at political fundraisers full of monied people ready to cough up some cash.
Scandinavian asylum: Trump is also correct in saying we should let in people from Norway. Though Norwegians are not fleeing war or cartels, some of them are fleeing massive wealth-tax hikes which threaten to siphon away significant chunks of their fortunes and provide a disincentive for generating such wealth in the first place. Coercive redistribution is wrong, and Norwegians deserve better.
Scenes from New York: Beautiful scenes depicted by my friend Yael Bar tur.
Beautiful gathering today in NYC for 133 hostages, kidnapped 6 months ago.
No hate. No incitement. No breaking any windows or lighting anything on fire. Just solidarity and love.
Immense gratitude for both my homes ???????????????? pic.twitter.com/jE2BCLVScb
— Yael Bar tur ????️ (@yaelbt) April 7, 2024
It's been six months since Hamas' brutal October 7 attack on Israel. Here are some pictures and videos of hostages—some believed to be dead, and some believed to be alive—and their families, yearning for their return, so they won't just be an abstract concept, or names that all blend together.
Related: An interesting piece from Lahav Harkov in Jewish Insider about political divisions among hostages' families.
QUICK HITS
- The chairman vs. chair gendered language debate in the boardroom. I cannot imagine caring about this.
- Some Chinese nationals who've seen a pirated version of Netflix's 3 Body Problem are angry over the show's racial diversity and its depiction of a Cultural Revolution struggle session.
- Semi-related: collectivism vs. individualism on rice and wheat farms.
- Donald Trump says states should decide for themselves their abortion policies and that he is "strongly in favor of exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother."
- A bizarre line in this BBC article:
In what way is it "not clear" that a hostage being filmed by his terrorist captors was not speaking freely? pic.twitter.com/YUIgJBwcUR
— Eylon Levy (@EylonALevy) April 7, 2024
- Elon Musk faced with a tough choice regarding X access in Brazil. "A crusading Brazilian Supreme Court justice included Elon Musk as a target in an ongoing investigation over the dissemination of fake news and opened a separate investigation late Sunday into the executive for alleged obstruction," reports the Associated Press.
- The Vatican released "Declaration 'Dignitas Infinita' on Human Dignity" earlier today, which repudiates "gender theory": "Desiring a personal self-determination, as gender theory prescribes, apart from this fundamental truth that human life is a gift, amounts to a concession to the age-old temptation to make oneself God," it reads. "All attempts to obscure reference to the ineliminable sexual difference between man and woman are to be rejected."
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"Nice countries, you know like Denmark, Switzerland? Do we have any people coming in from Denmark? How about Switzerland? How about Norway?"
I imagine there are people increasingly wanting to flee some of Scandinavia.
Yeah, too many immigrants there.
I guess people can get bored of food trucks.
The cultural enrichment was a little too rich, and many young
girlsbigots found surprise sex in parks and alleys to be too surprising.How are feminist groups reacting?
Like every other leftist group: freaking out about straight white men.
Though Norwegians are not fleeing war or cartels, some of them are fleeing massive wealth-tax hikes...
Ha! Didn't even read ahead.
Will the last European to leave Sweden please turn off the lights?
“saying that Haitians “all have AIDS” and that Nigerians should “go back to their huts” and that America should let in more Norwegians.”
Does someone have the actual quotes? It feels like the WaPo is doing more than just a little fibbing here.
How dare you criticize some reporter's imaginary lived experience!
"Did you hear what Trump SAID?!"
And it takes a minute or two to find out that the real question is "Do you know how bas my case if TDS is!?"
What would your reaction be if Trump had actually said those exact words?
What an assholic question!
What if SleepyJoe said them?
“What would your reaction be if Trump had actually said those exact words?”
Surprise.
Did Trump actually say those exact words?… Actually, scratch that. Did Trump actually even imply those actions?
He said those words, just not in that order and in isolation.
Shrike is justifying out of context leftist narratives.
Here's the thing, I'm at work and I can't get past the WaPo's paywall. The Wayback machine won't let me do it without using a proxy or VPN. I've done a google search and any article mentioning this always links back to the WaPo. There is no other source... at all. Just one of the two main DNC house organ.
What makes me quadruply suspicious is that no other outlet reported it, and for the most part Democratic party is silent on it. The WaPo article it is based on is from 2021. It's not new. If Trump had actually said the things, as reported, two years ago, we'd be hearing it everywhere constantly.
I hope someone with WaPo access can look into this further.
Fair. I didn't bother looking this claim up due to the long list of other things they claim trump said.
It was originally a NYTimes article reporting on a private meeting. NY Mag thus: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/12/report-trump-said-haitians-all-have-aids.html - NY Mag quotes the NYT.
It certainly is plausible he said those words or something similar, so I don't know why you'd be surprised. I pretty sure that if he'd said exactly that, you and JesseAz would defend him.
Sounds like an anonymous source saying he said it.
They are not believable.
Why do you think Trump's remarks are not believable?
Answered below. You and the media have lied about many of his statements. Why would anyone trust you?
ANONYMOUS SOURCES.
Zero evidence Trump said anything.
Why do you think Trump’s remarks are not believable?
This is why. From your link:
"Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.
Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.
The Times reports that the two anonymous officials who relayed these accounts “found them so noteworthy that they related them to others at the time,” but that other officials present did not recall President Trump using the words “AIDS” or “huts.”
There's a 100% chance that the journalist made it up himself;
1. Every single bureaucratic functionary who has ever spun a tale about Trump so far has done everything possible to get they're name in the papers while doing it. No exceptions. There's no chance that with Trump almost four years out of office they wouldn't be shouting this everywhere.
2. There's zero chance that this accusation wouldn't be front and center in the tweets of Biden and every DNC congressman. And don't say they'd wait for confirmation because they never, ever have before.
Pretty sure you'd push any anonymous source even if a lie.
With how often you and other democrats lie about his statements, why trust it?
Good fine people.
Ukraine call.
Immigrants are vermin.
Your team loves the "noble lie."
Quoting from the NYT article:
According to six officials who attended or were briefed about the meeting, Mr. Trump then began reading aloud from the document, which his domestic policy adviser, Stephen Miller, had given him just before the meeting. The document listed how many immigrants had received visas to enter the United States in 2017.
More than 2,500 were from Afghanistan, a terrorist haven, the president complained.
Haiti had sent 15,000 people. They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there.
Forty thousand had come from Nigeria, Mr. Trump added. Once they had seen the United States, they would never “go back to their huts” in Africa, recalled the two officials, who asked for anonymity to discuss a sensitive conversation in the Oval Office.
Whether he said it or not, there is a big difference between "would never" vs "should" go back to their huts.
"...They “all have AIDS,” he grumbled, according to one person who attended the meeting and another person who was briefed about it by a different person who was there..."
Bit of hyperbole, sounds like it was muttered under his breath. Gee, I wonder what would show up if Biden or Obo were subject to the same sort of scrutiny.
"I heard Trump tried to leap over the seat and take the wheel of the presidential LimO!"
HE THREW KETCHUP AT THE WALL!!!
Gov’na shrike is a retard.
TDS does that to idiots in particular, turd among them.
I'm still not shrike, you lying cunt.
Project much?
It's not projection for me to note that JesseAz is a lying cunt every time he calls me shrike.
It is hilarious to me bow angry this makes you. Despite me telling you dozens of times I do it as you and shrike gave the same retard DNC talking points so youre a shrike NPC. Despite me telling you this you still protest too much. Which is hilarious.
You continue to lie. What DNC talking ;points are you talking about, you lying POS? We agree that the 2020 election was not stolen, but then, anyone in possession of facts and faculties - hence excluding yourself - thinks that. We will agree on some other stuff, as any two people not on the right might agree, But I kinow you well enough to know that even if I did disagree with him, you'd simply say that I was only disagreeing to prove I wasn't him.
And anyone with a smidgen of intellectual honesty can spot the difference between writing styles, kind of knowledge we have, etc. showing that we're not the same person. And you know that, hence making you a dishonest lying scumbag.
Poor shrike.
"You continue to lie..."
You continue to be an obnoxiously arrogant, TDS-addled, steaming pile of shit.
"And anyone with a smidgen of intellectual honesty can spot the difference between writing styles, kind of knowledge we have, etc. showing that we’re not the same person."
He does it precisely because he thinks you're a DNC troll like Shrike Original Formula and it pisses you off.
It amazes me I can tell you exactly why I do something and you call it a lie. Lol.
You and shrike have the exact same Soros funded DNC narrative set.
Youre a shrike NPC.
Jesse’s not the one who has issues with telling the truth.
Not like you Shrike.
Two anonymous sources told me that you are, in fact, Shrike.
Damn. Reading below now, I see others have done the same gag.
Umm, yes it is.
I'm just an anonymous person. Why would I lie? As trustworthy as the anonymous sources you cite above.
I also heard from an anonymous source SRG really is shrike, so now we have a consensus!
If we brief ML on SRG being shrike that makes 3.
He's definitely spiritually a Shrike.
I too have heard that, from confidential sources. I am reporting that. And since you are all reporting that too, it is widely reported and backed up by sources.
Why would I lie?
Because you regard it as part of your debating mission to "win" against people who disagree with you politically, and if you have to lie about it, that's fine, and the very fact that you're anonymous means that there are no real world consequences to your lying.
Poor shrike.
Another halfwit liar.
Shrike mad.
Then stop lying Shrike.
Quit while you're ten miles behind. Please.
Hey shrike. Think you answered your own question as to why nobody trusts the NYT anonymous sources. Lol.
This is fucking hilarious.
So you’re saying that we are like you, and you’re de o rat media friends? I have anonymous sources that say that isn’t true. And I’ve heard other people here also say the same thing, backed up by sources.
So it is widely sourced and reported that we are telling the truth and you are a liar.
Whatever you say, shrike.
What you are is a disingenuous asshole who regularly demonstrates a love for his own opinions.
What if you posted child porn as shrike?
What if you downloaded it to your own computer, you mean?
But he didn’t. Did he guv’na Shrike?
Well, it’s not like he called them “super predators” or anything like that, so…
Hey guv’na Shrike, what if Biden talked about how us he enjoyed molesting his preteen daughter and how great it was when he raped Tara Reade?
What would your reaction be?
I think you now know the answer to that question!
The only reason they accept that he said the Access Hollywood remarks is because voice deep faking wasn't yet possible. Now? Forget it. Nothing which does not result in Donald Trump's re-election or vindication can possibly be "true".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pJOJzzwfThs
Trump supposedly said it at a dinner that Sarah Sanders denies. But then he said it again on a Hannity Show interview. See clip.
Trump said "many", not "all". According to Wikipedia:
As uncomfortable as it may for some to hear, seems pretty likely that many probably will have AIDS.
Also, Liberty_Belle is a TDS-addled slimy pile of lying shit who is every bit as reliable as turd.
Further, as noted above, it would not surprise me at all that someone would mutter a ‘politically incorrect’ comment ‘under their breath’, and it would further not surprise me that TDS-addled shits would examine every word the man uttered in order to support their fucking idiocy.
Eat shit and die, L_B; the world will thank you.
“Trump supposedly said it at a dinner that Sarah Sanders denies.”
No wonder she denies it, because the NYT said it happened during an administration meeting and came from two… wait for it… aNoNymoUs soUrCeS.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2017/12/report-trump-said-haitians-all-have-aids.html
And in your link Trump says “Many of those people will probably have AIDS”, not “They all have AIDS”. There’s a big difference there. And he’s right. Haiti far and away has the highest AIDS rates in the Western Hemisphere and there’s nothing racist about pointing out the likelihood among illegals.
In fact it's important to note. Keeping out disease has been an important part of immigration policy since Ellis Island.
But if he said “ALL HAITIANS HAVE AIDS” that wouldn’t be true and would be a pretty horrible accusation against anyone.
That’s why it’s so important here to determine here whether of not you guys are lying about what Trump said.
That is why it is so important to challenge the TDS-addled shit piles; it's because THEY LIE!
They lie always and in all claims; they lie. They lie in the morning, the afternoon and the evening. They lie Monday through to Sunday. They lie about what he said, what he did, where he was, what his wife did and said and when the sun came up.
THEY LIE!
Avant co-founder Al Goldstein, an Uzbek Jew, came to America at the age of 8 as a refugee.
Didn’t he also found Screw Magazine too?
🙂
😉
'Bye, ya'll! Give me the boot when you're ready, Reason!
🙂
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You guys are all missing the point.
It’s 100% true that America would benefit more from immigration from Norway, Sweden, and the white farmers from South Africa.
Then it does from the illiterate peasantry of Central America, Africa, and Asia.
Citizens of the former countries will far more likely be productive, taxpaying, law, abiding citizens of the United States.
Versus the tens of thousands of hostile people from the Third World, including Haiti and Nigeria.
Roughly half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants.
Look, we're all already anti-immigrant. You don't have to continue to sell us.
Ha!
Just what we need, more capitalist pigs.
Is pernil communist pig? Because communist pig is delicious.
Let assume 100% of fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants… that makes the chance 500/25M (using admitted numbers) while costing taxpayers 10Bs of a year in taxes.
Now where I come from that isn’t a good return of investment.
Continue to be tired of Reasons mixing of illegal vs legal.
But for libertarians, nothing is illegal, right?
Just mean tweets and petitioning courts if youre Trump.
Legal redress of grievances using the court system is now ‘insurrection’.
Continue to be tired of Reasons mixing of illegal vs legal.
Again, this is worse than just the mixing of illegal vs. legal.
This is, counting native-born children as immigrants because their parents were immigrants, even if they never met, *and* giving them full-owner/founder status even if they were half or less of a founding group of people or just another tube of suit filling in a long line of executive suits.
It's like how they call Puerto Ricans 'immigrants'. No, no they are not, you could label them emigrants but they are not immigrants any more than someone from California moving to Texas is an immigrant. They're fucking US citizens, since Puerto Rico is a US territory, they are US citizens.
50th generation Spanish American Immigrants.
If a company has even one drop of foreign blood in any of its C-level execs, it's immigrant owned/operated.
'Roughly half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants.'
And what are their proportions for food trucks and house-keeping staff?
Better question, what is another word for 'children of legal immigrants'?
Citizens.
By her measure, a business owned by a 5th generation American is still an immigrant owned business. Cool story, but also an obvious lie with how it's framed.
Reminds me of the narrative Brandy pushed about Jose Ole.
By her measure, a business owned by a 5th generation American is still an immigrant owned business. Cool story, but also an obvious lie with how it’s framed.
A business co-owned by an nth generation native and a native-born person of whom one *biological*, not adoptive, parent, that played no role in their upbringing, was an immigrant.
It's like the old line about "Give me a vodka martini but just whisper 'vermouth' over the top."
I, for one, did not know that the current Indian CEO of Microsoft founded the company. That’s amazing.
The more you know….
Trump said some mean things. Leftists meltdown, just check social media for validation.
in his defense those really ARE shithole countries. by every definition of the term "shithole country", those two definitely fit.
Agreed. I mean, if Haiti isn’t currently the definition of “shithole country”, then I don’t know what the fuck is.
Beautiful gathering today in NYC for 133 hostages, kidnapped 6 months ago.
No hate. No incitement. No breaking any windows or lighting anything on fire. Just solidarity and love.
That's just because I couldn't get my CRISIS ACTORS! sandwich boards delivered in time.
No hate. No incitement. No breaking any windows or lighting anything on fire. Just solidarity and love.
Like a normal day in a small town in flyover country.
^ This. It's funny how the shade of deep-blue is correlated to violence, hate, and civil unrest.
Yup. That's why those MAGA villages need more diversity.
The chairman vs. chair gendered language debate in the boardroom. I cannot imagine caring about this.
Shareholders must be more forgiving than I imagined.
When the people barking for such changes to language get no pudhback because of apathy, then you get more of these kinds of ridiculous changes.
"Trump probably means that as a fearmongering line, along the lines of "immigrants will take over, and these previously nice communities will cease to be."
Is it fear mongering, or just what is happening? Every city that they have come to is over run, with increasing homelessness, crime, and trash issues.
Is this just another "well maybe it didnt sound the best, but...Trump was right again"
No no. You aren't allowed to complain about increases in negative externalities until they are 100% of the community.
Some Chinese nationals who've seen a pirated version of Netflix's 3 Body Problem are angry over the show's racial diversity...
Toxic right wing fans.
...and its depiction of a Cultural Revolution struggle session.
Toxic left wing fans.
Whats funny is they took Chinese characters and made one a crazy white woman with awful eyebrows and another one a drugged up black guy.
Which character is the crazy white woman with the bad eyebrows? The assassin lady?
The black guy gets a pass from me. He reminds of a guy I work with, and that's good enough. 😀
The one making the nano constructed wire.
She's a hot Spanish girl! Man, you have a tough grading system.
Arizona. I have lots of hot latina girls here =)
Donald Trump says states should decide for themselves their abortion policies...
Champion of Federalism
Also his stance is in alignment with most independents at this point.
Dems starting to sweat losing their silver bullet
Trump also implying he would support a "compromise" at 16 weeks. Really guts the Democrat argument unless they want to openly defend convenience abortions at 9 months.
It's the smart electoral play. Completely kneecaps the dems with independents. Its in line with the majority opinion in the US and europe.
Biden and the media have no issues continuing to lie about his stance.
Definitely true, but there are a lot of "safe legal rare" centrists out there, and him coming out with this line of attack that "look, im for the sane position, the democrats are for no restrictions which is more extreme than everywhere else in the world, and has like 10% favorability" will help him, if they can hear that message.
Them lying about what he says is a certainty. Mitt Romney was Hitler that was going to put blacks back in chains, after all.
'If they can hear that message' being the key issue.
The media won't report it, and will tell you not to believe you're lying eyes and ears or will just outright edit the quote to mean something else.
Some might say that's paranoid, but...well they've already been caught doing this multiple times and it has actually worked out pretty well for them.
They will report objections to Trump's position by the anti-abortion movement. The groups that want NO legal abortion & no exceptions won't be happy with any perceived compromise.
Leaving it to the States or the voters is a compromise to them.
Meanwhile, the dems can just play clips of Trump taking credit for getting Roe v Wade overturned and that is enough to paint him as anti-choice.
Are you sure you're an attorney?
He's a steaming pile of lefty shit who might hold a law degree. But he IS a steaming pile of TDS-addled shit.
Where did they stash Avenati? But they do claim to be a Chicago attorney so corrupt, stupid totalitarian is pretty par for the course
"groups that want NO legal abortion & no exceptions won’t be happy with any perceived compromise."
They will 100% come out for Trump regardless. The other side is painting them as demonic threats to democracy and attempting to shit on the constitution at every turn. They aint having another 4 years of Biden
That’s a fairly common tactic by even more right wing writers, in that the media in general like to cover the foaming at the mouth furthest to the edges parts of the party, Democrat or Republican, then pretend that’s the centrist part of the party.
It’s bullshit, of course, but it’s absurdly common as well.
Amusingly, here is Trump with an actual centrist position and he gets attacked like the one way outside the overton window when, in reality, the ‘never abort ever’ crowd and the ‘abort up until the last possible second' crowd are both the extremist positions.
The 'never abort ever' position actually has scientific basis behind it--life beings at inception. But even most Republicans are willing to allow abortion under some circumstances. windycityattorney doesn't see that.
Science can't answer moral and ethical questions.
The Republicans have used abortion as the ultimate poison pill to kill their own chances the last 4 years. What issue will they use next to make sure they don't win but sound like they are trying?
Trannie Dancing.
The GOP is laser focused on Trannie Dancing.
Good thing, since the DNC never spotlights tranny issues.
Shrike is getting more and more desperate to deflect from his failing democrats.
He's been fired. He doesn't have any guidance anymore and he isn't smart enough to do it himself.
Then they have their finger on the pulse there.
Full abortion restriction, like abortion up until birth, is an extremely unpopular position.
Trannies are not popular with a supermajority of the country. Its popular with the media, the corpos that want to virtue signal, the elite/academia class to virtue signal, and left wing Twitter.
Running on a ban on transing the kids would garner majority support. Normies see this for what it is, delusion and mutilation.
Fuck, even the commie pope has come out against gender affirming care today. So, that makes the Swedes, Norse, Finnish, French, Brits, Vatican and even the Dutch (where it originated) who have all pulled back from Gender Affirming Care, largely because the science doesn't support it. The US is quickly becoming the outlier here.
Also to note, almost all of those countries have abortion laws as strict, and in many cases, stricter, than the Alabama law that ended up getting Roe shit canned.
Wasnt it Dobbs in Miss?
You're correct, wrong southern state.
"The US is quickly becoming the outlier here."
Not to worry. Justin has your back. He won't rest until the last child is castrated.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
Don’t worry, Lindsey Graham and co. will be able to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory on the issue right before the election.
At his retirement I expect Graham to peel off the mask and revel he was David Brock all along.
“Federal abortion ban!”
"Some Chinese nationals who've seen a pirated version of Netflix's 3 Body Problem are angry over the show's racial diversity ..."
I've been poking fun at the show's race- and gender-swapping but I gotta admit they handled "that scene" from the book quite well, the one that's like something out of an action / horror movie.
I don’t remember if they made one of the main characters a polyamorous queer for the sake of the Netflix contra… uh, diversity.
Yes, it's a good thing that I can't recall. It means they are at least learning.
They just come here to work and for freedoms.
Protest in Dearborn chants death to America.
https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/04/dearborn-mi-pro-hamas-rally-features-shouts-of-death-to-america/
And since Jeff and Sarc will create a strawman about me claiming this is targeting all Muslims so they can avoid the story, no just the ones who participated.
Madison Wisconsin has given almost 1M of COVID relief to illegal immigrants despite passage excluding spending on illegals.
https://mynbc15.com/news/nation-world/madison-wi-using-700k-in-covid-relief-for-migrants-lawmaker-says-out-of-touch-wisconsin-american-rescue-plan-act-arpa-funds-pandemic-senator-duey-stroebel-immigration-asylum-seekers
A) why is there still Covid relief money
B) they just come to work.
why is there still Covid relief money
No backsies!
I believe it is a literal no backsies policy if I remember correctly.
why is there still Covid relief money
When Donnie turned the money spigot on there is no going back.*
(*- this is what Jesse called "baseline" when Obama did his $787 billion stimulus program. Let's see if Jesse is consistent or instead makes up another lie to support his Big Government Orange hero)
Nonsense
Remember a few days ago when I mentioned how you continue to blame Trump for spending despite Biden being in office, tying appropriations by Congress to target Trump… this is what I was talking about.
These funds are being dispersed by Biden’s executive, not Trump. He has also signed spending bills for it.
You also seem ignorant to the baseline budget under Reid and Pelosi using TARP outlays. But again. You are ignorant.
These funds are being dispersed by Biden’s executive, not Trump.
Yes, just as I predicted. TARP signed by Dumbya is all Pelosi's fault.
CARES Act signed by Fatass Donnie is all Pelosi's or Biden's fault.
Nothing is ever a Republickans fault.
You are a true Team Red cock-holder.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Man. Lots of strawman by you in response to you proving your ignorance.
TARP was signed by Bush. He is partially st fault. Reid and Pelosi pushed FY09 and Bush refused to sign it as it included the outlays from TARP added to the baseline. Obama signed it.
Example of one of you being ignorant.
CARES was passed by veto proof majorities. Congress is at fault. The follow on bills were passed the same despite Trump being against them. But signed as it was meaningless to veto. See signing statements.
Second example.
Appropriations work on single year spending. So when money is left over and added to the next year’s budget, the next congress and President is responsible for the spending. Biden also signed a large spending bill or two without veto proof majorities dumbass.
Third example.
Basically youre projecting your own DNC fielty as you accuse others.
despite Trump being against them
You can't stop lying.
You're like the Small-Handed Orange Gasbag that way.
You can read his signing statements and veto threats dumbass.
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/12/22/trump-covid-stimulus-bill-450204
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, an asshole, an ignoramus and a pederast besides.
CARES was passed by veto proof majorities. Congress is at fault.
He threaten to primary any R who voted against it, see Thomas Massie. He and his staff negotiated the deal and he and he was all for it. Fuck your bs excuses for his action.
THE PRESIDENT: Well, thank you all very much. This is a very important day. I’ll sign the single-biggest economic relief package in American history and, I must say, or any other package, by the way. It’s twice as large as any relief ever signed. It’s $2.2 billion, but it actually goes up to 6.2 — potentially — billion dollars — trillion dollars. So you’re talking about 6.2 trillion-dollar bill. Nothing like that. And this will deliver urgently needed relief to our nation’s families, workers, and businesses. And that’s what this is all about.
- Donald Trump on Cares Act
You guys seem overly fixated on a single bill while ignoring all other facts.
I agree he was for and pushed the first one and shouldn’t have. But I’m also not under the delusoon any other president, including Massie, would have done differently as it was done after governors shut things down.
As for Massie, they are back on good terms and Trump endorsed him. So spilled milk.
Now can we discuss the point of my post about the spending bills after that first one? Or are we just forced to focus on the first exclusively for some reason?
The Cares Act was the third Covid bill. And it was by far the largest of the bills. So why shouldn't I focus on that?
As for Massie, I don't give a shit about their relationship, then or now. The only reason I bring it up is to refute your point that Donald was neutral or against the Cares Act. Also Massie voted against it, so not sure how you are so self assured he'd change his vote if his job was different? It seems your the delusional one, if you claim to know what another man would have done.
I just posted above Trumps threats for veto. Just like he did with the NDAA as well. Here is another.
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2020/12/23/trump-stimulus-whats-next/
So your characterization is just wrong.
And how am I sure about Massie? He knew it would pass with a veto proof majority. When Massie had the power to stop spending, he buckled. Under the first CR under Mccarthy Massie voted to pass the bill under the guise of a 1% cut if regular ordered wasn't used. This was an addendum everyone knew to be false, but Massie was the key architect of that agreement to get the freedom caucus on board to pass the House CR bill.
Nobody is perfect including Massie. But rational people don't expect perfection.
"...The Cares Act was the third Covid bill. And it was by far the largest of the bills. So why shouldn’t I focus on that?..."
Because you're a slimy pile of TDS-addled shit; see below. Kindly fuck off and die; the world will thank you, asshole.
Do you assume your idiotic TDS is justified by finding one fault? How long did it take to sharpen the focus of your TDS to make sure you could find a single fault, asshole?
I can find several, but, unlike stupid shits like you, I can also recognize that utopia isn't an option.
Stuff your head up your ass and take a very deep breath; the world will be a far better place once you've fucked off and died.
Nobody believes your bullshit, pedo.
"...You are ignorant."
And a pathological liar.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
In the J6 prosecutions aren't political news...
Appeala court overturns ridiculous part of sentencing.
A sentencing requirement that Jan. 6 defendant Daniel Goodwyn have his computer monitored by the government for “disinformation” has been vacated by the U.S. Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia Circuit.
https://www.zerohedge.com/political/appeals-court-vacates-disinformation-monitoring-jan-6-defendants-computer
There absolutely was no precedent for that ruling.
computer monitored by the government for “disinformation”
You mean the kind I generate when I wipe my hard drives with a a cloth?
...he is "strongly in favor of exceptions for rape, incest and life of the mother."
I'm sorry but this continues to be the most asinine take. If you think it's a life worth protecting, how are exceptions based on the sins of the parent(s) a factor? If it's not a life, then why are you in favor of restricting it at all? Health risk to the mother seems to be the only legit question mark.
By this line of logic self-defense should not be a defense for murder, after all there is still a dead body.
No
You're illumination is as dim as Joe Biden at 8pm without a pile of drugs to keep him going.
DLAMs right. That's not analogous.
Self defense preserves or protects a life. Whereas, even if it's because of rape, the fetus, who was not a willing participant but the result, is being killed.
Even if you deny the humanity of the fetus, it's still not analogous.
I'd invite you to explore that analogy further since, if you do, the reason why it's a bad analogy should become obvious pretty fast.
Not as presented it doesn't. If there was depth to begin with I'd agree but I'm not going scuba diving in a puddle and as presented it's just a declaration that all life is sacred and any cessation of that is profane.
..a declaration that all life is sacred and any cessation of that is profane.
Where do we draw the line?
Ok, what violent crime is the fetus guilty of?
Wait, let me guess. Trespass?
the exceptions are where hey admit they are full of shit, but nobody will let them get away with forcing their will on others without those exceptions. it is softening the ban just enough that most people don't think it will ever impact them and so don't bother voting based on the issue.
If you think it’s a life worth protecting, how are exceptions based on the sins of the parent(s) a factor?
And if I don't think any given life is worth protecting? I'm not saying you're wrong, I'm just saying you posited a conditional on the/an assumed outcome rather than any/all potential outcomes.
I'm a pretty hard-and-fast "At 8 weeks a clump of human cells with a heartbeat and brainwaves is more alive than Terry Schaivo was when 'we' made the decision to 'unplug/kill' her." and even *I* can see how giving the FedGov the power to void "My body, my choice" in anything except life threatening situations or void Federalism for lawfare purposes against individuals could have consequences that far exceed the cost of one life.
You think Trump can't read the polls?
It only needs to "make sense" if you insist upon looking at it from a principled perspective. Jettison that, and you're good to go wherever the best winds take you!
CDC removed thousands of adverse events submitted by early adapters of the Covid vaccine/prophylactic.
https://justthenews.com/government/federal-agencies/earliest-covid-19-vaccine-recipients-wrote-tens-thousands-injuries-left
100% safe and effective with no downsides!
Are those whiny complainers biologists? I didn't think so.
In what way is it "not clear" that a hostage being filmed by his terrorist captors was not speaking freely?
At least it's okay for the BBC to question our cherished institution of Islamic terrorism.
Must have been a mix-up in BBC production.
The number of BBC producers who also happen to support HAMAS is a non-zero number, although I couldn't tell you the exact figure.
They couldn't figure out why ratings for Doctor Who tanked when they went full-bore woke, either.
It's right up there with gay people supporting HAMAS despite them pretty clearly stating they want gay people to be dead, and are happy to help them into the grave.
Obviously, Hanas is providing this person with fre room and board as well as a vacation from their humdrum life.
Why would a warcrime victim speak ill of their captors?
Funny how you don't focus on the great accomplishments of the horse of illegal immigrants and instead cover that with your overarching, all inclusive immigrant descriptor. Sorry you lying teat but there is a distinction there you could make if you were honest and seeking to inform but you choose not to, small wonder why.
Bet i could find high level cartel criminals that outnumber the number of fortune 500 CEOs.
I think I’ve heard more instances of illegal aliens sexually assaulting minors in the last month than examples of legal immigrants in that story.
A crusading Brazilian Supreme Court justice included Elon Musk as a target in an ongoing investigation over the dissemination of fake news...
U.S. democrats have found their dream presidential nominee.
Soros is cutting cheques right now.
WHERE ARE YOU FROM?
He’s from a place where Patrice Bergeron plays offence, and Bobby Orr played defence.
*Little tear of nostalgia*
Speaking of immigrants, what do you think would happen if residency was distinctly separated from citizenship? No more "path to citizenship" for most immigrants. No more birthright citizenship based on geographic coincidence. And no more Congressional apportionment based on anyone but actual citizens.
No more birthright citizenship based on geographic coincidence.
What would citizenship be based on?
Status of parent(s).
The citizenship of the parents. Just like it is for children of US citizens born on foreign soil.
What all but about a dozen countries use.
Miltary service? The only good bug is a dead bug!
Yeah, but the natural born citizens are the bug in this scenario.
The path to citizenship should be the path back to their home countries until they apply for immigration and are accepted.
As the population of citizens declined (birth rate is lower than what's required for replacement), SSI and Medicare would face insolvency even faster. Some people see that as a feature not a bug because they want the federal government to go bankrupt. I'm not one of them.
You know that legal residents pay taxes, right?
You know that taking away a “path to citizenship” and instead treating immigrants like an underclass will reduce the incentive for productive immigrants to come here and pay taxes into a system that treats them like subhumans, right?
Glad to see you're a bleeding heart liberal now. Those subhunans getting free healthcare, food, housing, spending on debit cards, etc are truly being harmed.
Oh wait. You won't admit to the actual costs.
Getting all the freebies is not an incentive to get a job and pay taxes.
How is allowing more legal immigration than any other country “a system that treats them like subhumans”?
You bitches are nothing if not hyperbolic.
Not only that, but taking away birthright citizenship would mean that children born of immigrants won’t be citizens either. Pretty soon you’ll have multiple generations of a non-citizen underclass. Sounds very apartheid-ish. I guess I now see the appeal, considering how so many consider immigrants to be little more than animals.
Even using apartheid now lol. You do realize over 90% of countries have figured de sanguine citizenship out right? Nevermind. Youre really really dumb.
How close are you to joining a Free Palestine March?
And bookmarked for the hilarity.
"Pretty soon you’ll have multiple generations of a non-citizen underclass."
Or, in that scenario the incentive would be taken away and they would stop coming in these numbers. "We cant have consequences because consequences are icky and unfair"
Those North Koreans are so dumb. They only punish three generations. Your idea of punishing infinite generations is even better. Know what would be even better than that? Declare them outlaws. Then they would not have the protection of the law. You could use them for target practice if they can't prove their citizenship.
More emotional fact free drivel. Lol.
"Know what would be even better than that? Declare them outlaws. Then they would not have the protection of the law. You could use them for target practice if they can’t prove their citizenship."
Why resort to this strawman hypothetical and not just come down on calling them "illegals" and deporting them to their home country? Why make up fanciful scenarios that no one is arguing for?
No more birthright citizenship based on geographic coincidence.
That’s what I’m responding to. What are the implications of that? Well they’re going to have children that aren’t citizens. They won’t be citizens of any country at all. Then some of them will have children. Before long there will be multigenerational communities of non-citizens. Where do you deport them to? They don’t have a home country. They pay taxes without any benefits of citizenship. And to you that’s just whining about treating them unfairly. Boo hoo you say. That’s not only unfair. It’s unjust. Silly me I thought people on this forum cared about justice. No, they only care about justice for them and theirs. Fuck everyone else.
What are the implications of that? Well they’re going to have children that aren’t citizens. They won’t be citizens of any country at all.
Tell us you’re a retard on immigration without telling us.
This is literally not an issue for the majority of the world that practices jus sanguinis citizenship.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jus_sanguinis
How are you ignorant on every fucking topic but have such solid convictions build on ignorance?
Nah, just threaten "if you come here illegally, you, and any children you produce will be deported"
Let them stay if its the child of an American.
Gotta have borders, and you cant do that on the honor system
Where will the kids be deported to? Deportation is a legal process for returning foreign nationals to their home country. The kids wouldn’t be foreign nationals, nor would they be citizens. What if they have kids? Do you kick out children and grandchildren of illegals? That doesn’t looks like justice to me. Looks more like retribution against entire families, Kim Jong Un style.
Gotta have borders, and you cant do that on the honor system
By the way, arguing against open borders in response to any criticism of our current immigration system is a false dichotomy with a straw hat and overalls.
Sure it’s easy. But it’s dishonest and lazy.
Very few people want actual open borders. Most of us who don’t like the current system would rather have high fences and wide gates. Meaning we make it easier for people who want to work to come, and allow more of them. That would mean more entry points and more people to process the newcomers. This way the people who just want to work could come over legally. That would mean Border Patrol resources would be used for catching bad guys, not economic refugees.
By the way, Canada is poaching high-skilled immigrants right now by making their process much easier than our fucked-up H-1B visa program. Wonder if ML knows this.
"Where will the kids be deported to? "
Wherever their parents go
Sarc, the foundation you built your viewpoints are just simply wrong. Can someone give him the wiki link so he will stop saying stupid shit?
Wherever their parents go
I’m saying that I don’t think it works that way. The country they’re being deported to has to take them. It’s a two-way street. So if the kids aren’t nationals, then the receiving country might say no to the kids. Then what?
If you're an American citizen and you have a kid abroad, they're automatically a citizen. But not all countries operate like that.
Giving sarc any link will not stop sarc from saying stupid shit.
Does he think kids born of citizens in another country don't keep the citizenship of their parents? Did he pass 5th grade civics? My kid learned this a couple of weeks ago in 5th.
"So if the kids aren’t nationals, then the receiving country might say no to the kids. Then what?"
So let me get this straight, we have to have the standard that we let anyone in, because other countries in the same scenario reject this dumb idea? Sounds like we should do what the other "receiving" countries do, and protect our damn borders
So let me get this straight, we have to have the standard that we let anyone in, because other countries in the same scenario reject this dumb idea?
Did I say that? Dude, try reading what I write instead of responding to false dichotomies, strawmen, and Jesse’s lies.
First step for the current crisis would be to return to Trump’s policy of asylum seekers waiting in the last sanctuary country they were in instead of being let loose in this one while they wait for their court date.
Sorry for contradicting the narrative that I support Biden, hate everything Trump did, and want open borders. Though I'm sure the usual suspects, the ones you seem to respect, will call me a liar for saying that.
Sounds like we should do what the other “receiving” countries do, and protect our damn borders
Know why we can't? Because Border Patrol is busy with economic refugees. People who don't mean harm, who just want to work and better their lives, but can't do it legally. While agents are distracted by them, actual criminals slide across the border with impunity.
Wouldn't it be better to allow those who want to work come in legally? That way they can be processed, checked for diseases and criminal backgrounds, get all the necessary paperwork, and not live in fear.
Then federal agents can spend their time and resources catching actual criminals.
Can you respond to what I actually say, or do you only do false dichotomies and strawmen?
Sarc, what lies? I've only pointed out your ignorance on how citizenship works in the vast majority of the world. I apologize for assuming you passed 5th grade.
Which, notably, is the current status quo. Illegal immigrants often go home after they've made bank in the U.S. and are replaced by different illegal immigrants, thus continuing the permanent illegal alien underclass that is, of course, in direct competition for housing and wages with the underclass of citizens that are legally able to work in the United States.
It takes a special brand of fool to encourage illegal immigration when you are a member of the citizen underclass in the United States. They are specifically here to undercut you in particular. This is why you often see pushback against illegal immigration from that very group. They see the effects first hand, and while they might not be very educated they can still recognize when they are being pissed on even if you tell them it's just a little rain.
Make bank and go home? Since when?
I've been told over and over that none of them want jobs. Not a one. All they want is to have anchor babies, receive welfare, and illegally vote for Democrats.
“I’ve been told over and over that none of them want jobs”
Liar.
That's why I have them on the mute, and have for a while.
Amusingly, Sarc is one of the exact people I describe above.
The fact is that illegal immigrants, rather like lots of rural good ol' boys, work off the books and that allows you all kinds of government provided bennies while your cash income never gets reported.
Hilariously, leftists often clutch their pearls over white citizens not reporting income like a good little socialist worker but cheer illegal immigrants and minorities doing the same thing.
It's almost like they think only white people have agency, which is about as racist as it gets.
That would be true if I was a leftist or if I got upset about people not reporting income. Neither of which are true. Nor do I support illegal immigration. I want legal immigration to be easier.
But go ahead and believe what liars say about me instead of what I actually say.
Anything else would show you matured past middle school, and then you wouldn’t fit in anymore.
Everyone can read your ignorance above buddy.
Why do you think Dems are trying to push the child tax credit to include illegals without any income sarc?
I'm not a glutton for punishment like JesseAz and the rest, I mute the people I hadn't seen a single intelligent or reasonable post from in *checks watch* 17 years of commenting here.
That's funny because I've got "JesseAz and the rest" on mute because all they ever have to say is personal attacks and lies.
Well thats another sarc lie lol.
I too like to spend hours a day arguing with people I have on mute.
No you haven't.
Lol. There he goes again.
Is there a single democrat party narrative you wont adopt?
Libertarians want these programs ended, not extended.
I'll only speak to the last one, but if that happened, I imagine that R's would have a higher ceiling in the House.
All attempts to obscure reference to the ineliminable sexual difference between man and woman are to be rejected.
Must have been in the fine print that His Holiness missed.
'The chairman vs. chair gendered language debate in the boardroom. I cannot imagine caring about this.'
But I can imagine some fun if trivial outcomes in stories where people tell the genie that one of their wishes is to be the "chair" of General Motors.
Agumentum ad simia manus.
Referring to Sinatra as Chair of the Board just doesn't sound right.
'Some Chinese nationals who've seen a pirated version of Netflix's 3 Body Problem are angry over the show's racial diversity and its depiction of a Cultural Revolution struggle session.'
Wait until they show Mao as a black woman.
That would explain a lot...
"The Vatican released "Declaration 'Dignitas Infinita' on Human Dignity" earlier today, which repudiates "gender theory""
Does the current pope know? He must be furious.
Lol. I legit was reading that and immediately said "huh, I didn't know we got a new pope"
President Javier Milei fires 24,000 government workers in Argentina: ‘No one knows who will be next’
It's a good start.
this guy is doing God's work
Javier Milei believes that the state “is the enemy” and “a criminal organization” which he seeks to reduce to its minimum size.
If we could only get a few US states moving in this direction. Milei couldn't run for POTUS, but he could be a Governor. If only there were a political party that believes in free markets and has ballot access.
"If only there were a political party that believes in free markets "
I don't know of any. Even the Libertarian Party isn't that radical... well if you exclude that hateful Mises Caucus.
Biden just issued a new OPM rule to make sure this doesn't happen here. Wonder why no mentions here.
It's (D)ifferent.
Theatregoers given trigger warning over ‘sound of people eating oranges’
And of course it's about LGBTQQ2S+WTFBBQ issues. Just don't show the trannies a banana.
Needs explanation.
"the show looks to reimagine carribian life through the queer lense and challange homophobua"
Digusting fags being fags
Do they post trigger warnings outside the theater for normies?
How about a trigger warning for mixing up a big sweaty bowl of mac and cheese?
Two years ago, in March 2022, M2 money supply reached approximately $21.71 trillion. Based on the latest monthly data release from the Board of Governors of the Federal Reserve System, M2 clocked in at $20.78 trillion in February 2024. As you can see in the chart above, this represents a relatively minor 0.5% year-over-year decline, but a more pronounced 4.29% drop-off since March 2022. It's also the first meaningful move lower anyone has witnessed in M2 since the Great Depression.
Money supply down 4.29% in two years, Peanuts. Donnie ran with a vast new supply of easy money.
And the economy is still smoking hot.
For the Freidman types inflation is OVER. That is if you believe Uncle Milton.
https://finance.yahoo.com/news/u-money-supply-doing-something-090600755.html
(by the way - inflation has been caused by choked supply chains)
Why crow about the money supply when you say it had nothing to do with inflation?
Because turd is a liar.
He's been cut off and isn't bright enough to do this alone.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
Well, is he wrong?
Do the Scandinavian countries have standards close to us or not?
No, they use the metric system.
It's a bit late for Norway. It was never colonized by the US. Haiti, on the other hand, has been the focus of American meddling and military occupation for over a century. The blowback of immigration is bound to be more profound for Haiti. Immigration of Afghans, for example, to the US was never a thing until we invaded the place. Or look at post WWII immigration to the UK from Africa, the Indian sub continent or the Caribbean. We don't usually think of colonialism as a two way street, but it is in this sense at least.
Ah yes, Haiti was a stable paradise until the USA messed it up. I could have sworn the US intervened because it was a messed up place but I must have gotten Haiti confused with so many other countries in the region.
"Haiti was a stable paradise"
And American meddling and colonization didn't improve things, no matter what the TV and politicians tell you. And thanks to our history of meddling and colonization in Haiti we enjoy the blowback of immigration. What goes around, comes around.
What the fuck does US colonialism have to do with Haiti?
Modern NGO grift isn't colonialism.
Those poor fools would have been much better off if we hadn't just left to their own devices after the French abandoned the sugar plantations.
Fuck the Haitians and anti colonialism pseudo racism generally. What the fuck is "I can only be ruled by someone of my own ethnicity" as an ideology? How would that work out in the UK right now? Or ever in the US?
"Modern NGO grift isn’t colonialism. "
Is that what your TV is telling you? The modern NGO grift is precisely that. You need to keep up with this ever changing world in which we live in.
The US did occupy Haiti from 1915-1934, but that was partially at the behest of the Haitian government (and the US did get a little Imperialistic around the end of the 19th and early 20th century, but for the most part we got over it fairly quickly. Mostly what the left likes to label American Colonialism/imperialism is more American Hegemony, and even that is quickly waning (especially under SloJo).
And mostly the American Hegemony since the end of World War 2 has been a voluntary participation as opposed to coerced. We were the big kid on the block, who treated you (someone only marginally) better than the other big kids on the block (Soviets and Chicoms).
Should be sometimes only marginally.
Regarding this …
Sayeth the link ...
Especially in the fishing example, they are conflating coercive collectivism and voluntary cooperation. There’s so much coercion in the CCP rice vs wheat example that it’s impossible to tell the difference.
"During the Cultural Revolution, youth were shipped off to the farms “with very little preparation or forethought”.
The youth weren't prepared to be farmers, and weren't meant to be. They were used to city life. They knew how to read and write having been educated in schools, something their peasant hosts couldn't claim but nevertheless knew a thing or two about growing rice and vegetables. The idea was that youth would bring the culture of the city to the peasants while learning to appreciate the hardships of life in the countryside.
This was voluntary as the youth in China were not all that different from youth in the US at the time with the hippie movement and its back to the land ethos. The difference was in China it had state backing while in the US it didn't.
"This was voluntary as the youth in China were not all that different from youth in the US at the time with the hippie movement and its back to the land ethos. The difference was in China it had state backing while in the US it didn’t."
You.
Are.
Full.
Of.
Shit.
OMG
Inorite
Misconstrueman is a full on ChiCom propagandist/ genocidal apologist
Get fucked.
Nope.
It’s also where the red guard were sent the second they lost their value to Mao.
Red Guards were suppressed after they factionalized, trying to outmao each other, and in some cases turned on each other with weapons supplied to them from various factions within the PLA, the real army. It wasn't about Mao having done with them, but rather they became a threat to public peace and security.
Much earlier in the Cultural Revolution was the Shanghai Commune. They were shut down because their political views were bordering on anarchism, questioning the need for the communist party etc.
But I think you'd be surprised where you'd find the ex red guards today. I suspect they are among China's most successful and powerful people. One advantage they had was an interrupted college education. They entered, or re-entered college at an older age having sewn their wild oats agitating for Mao. They would be more serious and try harder, making most of the opportunities open to them for however short a time.
Rice farming using manual labor requires collective labor, at least during transplant season, because the rice seedlings have to be transplanted in a very narrow window of time. Utilizing automation, like we do in the rice growing regions of the US like Louisiana and California, is much less dissimilar to wheat farming. Comparing the cultural revolution is bullshit, largely because it was a forced redistribution of labor, utilizing manpower instead of automation, caused massive environmental damage (erosion and flooding increased as a result of it), wasted vast resources (planting trees in the desert, to say we've planted x number of trees in y province) and led to lower production. The authors of this paper really are reaching to fit the data to their narrative. If we look at well automated farming systems, say comparing rice growers in Louisiana with wheat farmers in the Midwest, I'm betting their narrative falls apart. Additionally, traditionally, wheat farming before automation was also a pretty collective endeavor, at least during planting and harvest. Additionally, almost any irrigation system is going to require some level of cooperative activity, for maintaining canals, assuring adequate flow and equal access to water.
"Comparing the cultural revolution is bullshit, largely because it was a forced redistribution of labor, utilizing manpower instead of automation, caused massive environmental damage (erosion and flooding increased as a result of it), wasted vast resources (planting trees in the desert, to say we’ve planted x number of trees in y province) and led to lower production. "
You're confusing the Great Leap Forward with the Cultural Revolution. The Cultural Revolution came about as Mao harnessed the energies of the youth to criticize the cadres responsible for the failures of the Great Leap Forward which ended several years previously. The purpose of sending youth to the countryside was cultural exchange, and enrichment between the peasants and students. It wasn't part of an effort to boost agricultural production. The was the Great Leap Forward, started in late 50's.
Spoken like a true propaganda poster.
Just trying to get your knowledge of history straightened out. The Great Leap Forward and the Cultural Revolution were two different movements, at two different times, with two different purposes. If you have any more questions, I'd be happy to respond.
We can only hope you will eventually be part of a similar "cultural exchange."
I already 'exchanged culture' with Chinese peasants, if you know what I mean.
No you didn’t.
Yes I did. Several times.
No one believes your bullshit.
They both resulted in full scale carnage.
"They both "
Exactly, both. Two different things.
"full scale carnage"
Full American scale carnage or full Chinese scale carnage? Two different things.
Holy Fvckin shit. Are you serious with this? “Those responsible” for the failure of the Great Leap Forward were the Communists.
"“Those responsible” for the failure of the Great Leap Forward were the Communists."
That's correct. Mao blamed local cadres for submitting inflated figures to comport with central quotas. There were lots of other reasons for the failure of the Great Leap Forward, but Mao glommed onto this one and expected the local cadres to show some contrition and humility. When this was not sufficiently forthcoming Mao mobilized the youth in the Cultural Revolution. As I said, they were two different movements at two different times with two different purposes. Confusing the two is not going to do you any favors.
I hate you, but you are our most educated leftist.
I regret that I wasn't educated more on what exactly happened during the failures of communism.
I appreciate your cliffs notes. And your bickering with SM76.
It's really one sided, since he has been a gray box since he went full on favorite Nazi, anti-semite.
"Netflix's 3 Body Problem are angry over the show's racial diversity"
They shouldn't be. China, with her Mongolians, Manchurians, Muslims, Hmong, Lahu, Akha, Tibetans, Koreans, Uighurs, etc. are almost as racially/ethnically diverse as the US. If Chinese are angry, it's because they've been led to believe, watching decades of Hollywood product, that only white people are properly given leading roles. Or they are just feeling insulted that roles meant originally for Chinese are going to inferior races.
^Dipshit weighs in.
Speaking of inferior races...
Holy Fvck. China is a ethnostate with repression both brutal and subtle. The Han are the only establishment in the country and treat all the others as subservient. This is incredible, I had no idea that Misconstrueman was a ChiCom agent.
"This is incredible, I had no idea that Misconstrueman was a ChiCom agent."
You haven't been following me as closely as you should. China is a 'Peoples Republic' and the ethnic minorities and post revolution saw an elevation of their status to citizenship - an improvement over the first half of the 20th century and 5000 years before that when they were seen as little more than beasts. In fact the Chinese characters traditionally used to denote ethnic minorities used the beast radical. Under Communist orthography reforms, it was replaced by the human radical. (Chinese characters typically have two components - the radical, on the left or top, to give an idea of the meaning of the character, and the other component which approximates the pronunciation.)
But do you believe that Han make up 93% of the population through natural means?
They've committed genocide on a grand scale.
I know something about the Hmong minority. For hundreds of years they were suppressed by various emperors and the republic. And it's true that genocide, or at least extensive ethnic cleansing, took place, most recently in the 19th century with the aid of British mercenaries. It ended with the revolution, not dissimilar to the Bolsheviks putting an end to anti Jewish pogroms which were a staple of life in pre-revolutionary Ukraine. The population of Hmong in China is growing today, partly thanks to minority exclusion from the one child policy that was enforced on the Han.
Good, we can ship all the illegals and hood rat blacks to China, and then diversity can be their strength
"we can ship all the illegals and hood rat blacks to China"
I don't think we can. We made our bed, now we have to lie in it.
If you believe the Chinese Han are justified and successful in their subjugation of the hundreds of other ethnicities they've absorbed, American democrats and republicans can surely unite to integrate the rest of our "minorities" and various peoples into a single north American "Han" style race.
They'll be much like me 😉
What's a Han? Someone in China who uses 'Han zi' (Chinese characters) and eats with chopsticks. Not much more than that. North Americans are already a 'han style race.' Only they all use the Roman alphabet and they all eat with knife, fork and spoon.
The point is the Han are every bit a social construction as Americans are. Choose a random Chinese from the north, and another from the south. They won't understand each other's speech, they'll eat different foods, have different political philosophies, and even faces and physiques will differ. What do they share other than Chinese citizenship? Besides using chopsticks to eat and Chinese characters to write, very little.
How many white people are given roles in Chinese-made movies?
For that matter, how many ethnic Uighurs or Tibetans are given leading roles in those movies?
Same for Bollywood, Korean productions, etc. I don't recall a single white person in Train to Busan or Parasite [actually, IMDB says there was an Italian Chef and a German family about 87 names down the cast list].
"How many white people are given roles in Chinese-made movies?"
I've seen a few. Mostly in historical dramas where they take roles for Western historical figures. In the Chinese co-production of Bernardo Bertolucci's Last Emperor, for example, Peter O'Toole played the role of advisor to Puyi, the eponymous last emperor.
You may be shocked to learn that Puyi was not Han at all, but a Manchu, a totally different ethnic group. And John Lone, the actor who played Puyi, was not Manchurian, not white, but an ordinary Han, born and raised in Hong Kong.
If you want to see white people in Korean productions, try Squid Game. There are a number of roles filled by white actors among the creepy audience of the games. Generally, whites are used to portray villainous roles, like the ones in Squid Games, or for comic relief. It's not all that different from how we traditionally portray Koreans. Check out American portrayals of the North Korean president - either villain or clown - and nothing in between.
"it’s because they’ve been led to believe, watching decades of Hollywood product, that only white people are properly given leading roles"
So Hollywood is like the movie industries of other countries, and generally give leading roles to the representative majority?
"and generally give leading roles to the representative majority?"
What's the representative majority in Hollywood? It seems to be moving in a direction where no ethnicity can claim to be the majority.
It’s moving in that direction because of DEI, not because of any genuine ethnic or cultural evolution.
And that's why you dislike DEI? Because whites no longer constitute a 'representative majority?' Get over it, or move to another country where the whites still rule and others are relegated to supporting roles.
Side note:
Not having the "Trump looks at eclipse" picture as the daily photo is a lost opportunity.
Tomorrow.
Scenes from DC,
D.C. Jury Convicts Great-Grandma For Walking Around The Capitol For 10 Minutes On Jan. 6
https://thefederalist.com/2024/04/05/d-c-jury-convicts-great-grandma-for-walking-around-the-capitol-for-10-minutes-on-jan-6/
In case you’ve forgotten why the regime continues this shit,
“Justice Department official Michael Sherwin proudly declared in a television interview that “our office wanted to ensure that there was shock and awe … it worked because we saw through media posts that people were afraid to come back to D.C. because they’re, like, ‘If we go there, we’re gonna get charged.’ … We wanted to take out those individuals that essentially were thumbing their noses at the public for what they did.”
https://jonathanturley.org/2024/04/07/plainly-erred-judge-reggie-walton-rebuked-by-d-c-circuit-in-j6-case/
Jeff and sarc applaud.
They really are fascist. Nobody honest can look at that statement and say that this isn't incipient Nazism.
The next seven months will be interesting times. Especially if the Washington junta think they might lose past the fudge factor. Watch for a Reichstag burning event that makes the BLM riots look like a strongly worded letter.
The left wing violence this summer will surpass 2020.
And no one will be charged.
Well we’ve already got our first test case. It will depend on jurisdiction, and I’m not familiar with this locale, but the assailant was arrested:
NJ Trump supporter attacked with a sledgehammer in Port Monmouth section of Middletown
https://www.app.com/story/news/local/red-bank-middletown-area/middletown/2024/04/05/edison-man-attacked-with-a-sledgehammer-at-middletown-nj-business/73224283007/
I have a feeling it worked.
The leftist go wherever they want. Protesting and demonstrating and hoping the lower classes join them for looting. It things get hairy, the media and local politicians bail them down out.
The rightists half rioted once and the DC elite whooped their asses and they're teaching them a lesson to not try that shit again.
How many more times did conservative ranchers or religious eccentrics try their hand after Clinton got done with them?
The battle is lost
It is very difficult to force people to be free - - - - - - - - -
It has indeed worked. Any opposition to regime is immediately crushed and the stated goal is to intimidate the masses into silence. The only way to end it is regime change which as a practical matter means a Trump victory in November. Of course that hinges on who counts the votes. But even if Trump voters can overwhelm the entrenched Democrat fraud machine these people will not go quietly into the night. Either way it's going to get ugly.
Roughly half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants.
Of course, this fails by over-aggregating past the very point that Donald Trump was trying to make. Of that half, what percentage of were immigrants or children of immigrants from First World countries? And, of those that were not, what percentage of them were from upper tiers of their original society? I mean, I'm pretty sure Donald Trump isn't going to object to Carlos Slim or Shakira taking up residence in the U.S. You can point to Bezos as a Cuban. But, it was precisely the bourgeoisie that got the hell out of Cuba. Sundar Pichai was already an engineer. As was Satya Nadella.
It's ugly to say, but admitting relatively rich, educated people with high levels of human capital is different from admitting dirt-poor, uneducated hordes. And glossing over that colors the entire corpus of Reason's coverage on the matter, including their trope that "even illegal immigrants have lower crime rates than the domestic population". That's only true when comparing populations of the same socio-economic status. And, the correlation of crime with poverty consistently overwhelms that.
Oh , no. Everyone is equal in every way.
Even Joe Biden said that poor kids are just as smart as white kids.
"is different from admitting dirt-poor, uneducated hordes."
That should give us the incentive to see that these new arrivals are educated and given the means to enrich themselves. We don't want them to become a permanent underclass of criminals and parasites. They already have the gumption and desire to better themselves, we need to give them the tools to make it happen.
Or you can simply not admit them and not subsidize them. Because that same willingness to leave home might just as easily signal a sociopathic unwillingness to defer instant gratification in favor productive interpersonal relationships as "gumption and (a) desire to better themselves". Especially when your sample is the relative social losers.
"Or you can simply not admit them and not subsidize them."
This flies in the face of American history and Christian heritage. And on a practical note, it makes much more sense to educate and subsidize those with the ambition and drive to start life anew in a foreign country than the native born social losers. I agree we should be careful about sociopaths, wherever they're born.
It's hardly contradictory to American history. America has long had policies designed to limit low status people's immigration to the U.S. As so Christian, well, I've seen you here pooh-poohing the application of Christian faith to U.S. government policy. So, that can hardly be a limiting factor. And your claim with regard to whether it makes sense to educate foreign losers versus domestic losers, you're almost certainly wrong, if for no other reason of a basic grasp of the English language.
"America has long had policies designed to limit low status people’s immigration to the U.S."
Government policies notwithstanding, low status people have been welcomed in the states. For hundreds of years, slaves from Africa, for example. You can't get much more low status than that.
"pooh-poohing the application of Christian faith to U.S. government policy."
I'm not sure what you're referring to. I don't see much Christianity in government policy.
"if for no other reason of a basic grasp of the English language."
A) It's possible to educate people in a language other than English
B) It's possible for non English speaking people to learn English
What's important is that the motivation is there. A native born social loser may speak English but if the motivation to learn is not there, this mother tongue advantage is wasted on them. On the other hand, if the foreign born immigrant is motivated to prosper in the new country, they will find a way. That's human nature.
...low status people have been welcomed in the states...slaves from Africa, for example.
Slaves? Welcomed? I guess kind of like when Samuel Norton welcomes Andy Dufresne to Shawshank Prison.
"Slaves? Welcomed?"
Cotton doesn't pick itself.
"It’s possible to educate people in a language other than English"
But in an English-speaking country, that should not be done at public expense.
"that should not be done at public expense"
Public schools are publicly funded. So are most universities. And most offer courses in languages other than English which are also publicly funded. Why shouldn't Americans be free to choose the language of instruction seeing as they pay for it. It seems fascistic to expect Americans to pay for education and not have any choice in such an important matter.
You're an idiot.
You just hate public funding foreigners. You think you're entitled to that money hence this dog in the manger unchristian attitude.
How many illegal immigrants are you educating or giving tools to thrive?
I don't care about or ask their legal status. And I lend tools rather than give them. And I make sure I get them back when they're finished.
We can start by expecting them to follow the rules and laws of the country. Some 1M are naturalized every year, more than any other country on earth. When your first demand on your new home is that they ignore their laws and must provide you with handouts, there's not a ton of sympathy engendered.
"there’s not a ton of sympathy engendered."
I've seen that here. There's rarely a good word put in for our illegal immigrants, or legal immigrants from foreign countries, either. I also have little sympathy for them. Rather I admire their courage, initiative, resourcefulness and diligence.
" or Shakira taking up residence in the U.S."
I will offer up my guest room for her house arrest punishment for back taxes
You’re also being exceedingly generous about the abjectly shitty analyses overtly manipulated in support of the narrative.
The inclusion of Jobs just demonstrates how desperate, unscrupulous, and retarded they are. Jobs was born here *and* adopted. Even if he weren’t, to act like Jobs makes Apple without Woz is like acting like Brin makes Google without Page. And as I’ve previously pointed out about these analyses, despite the 50/50 split of these companies founders, they are predominantly counted as “immigrant owned”.
Even immigrant status aside, only 50 companies have been on the Fortune 500 list since it began, and frequently, a company towards the top of the list doesn’t just vanish but fragments into other smaller companies lower on the list until they eventually disappear, so the list itself is riddled with a hefty dose of irrelevance, survivor bias, nepotism, and self-selection.
It winds up as an obviously premeditated and retardedly pointless six-degrees-of-separation to anyone outside the US in order to ascribe credit to them for work they had nothing to do with.
it looks like another episode of playing "six degrees of separation to why we need open borders"
Normally a show hosted by Fiona
Immigrants make it rain: Roughly half of Fortune 500 companies were founded by immigrants or children of immigrants. Jeff Bezos, who helmed Amazon, is the son of a Cuban immigrant. Steve Jobs, who helmed Apple, is the son of a Syrian immigrant. Costco was co-founded by the son of Canadian-Romanian immigrants. Alphabet/Google CEO Sundar Pichai was born to a Tamil family in India before making his way to California. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella was also born in India, later traveling to the U.S. to attend school in Wisconsin.
Oh, Liz... JFC don't let Fiona write your articles for you.
I can't tell which is more laughably retarded. That this factually says that Bezos, Jobs, and whomever founded Costco were born as native citizens and then ascribes the actions to their immigrant parents or that rather than choose Sergei Brin, who actually was a no-shit immigrant *and* actual founder of Google, you went with Sundar Pichai, who has overseen Google's least innovative and most embarrassingly (and needlessly) contentious era.
Like some retarded Open Borders version of Google Gemini, your vision of "immigrants making it rain" doesn't make a lick of sense outside of some tautological M.C. Esher-style racist surrealist artwork.
Or a CEO of Microsoft who had fuck-all to do with Gates growing it into a tech monopoly in the 90s.
Those ARE shithole countries. Everyone knows.
That's they the jOuRnaLiStS got all offended by it. You can only truly offend someone by telling the truth.
Norway is a very nice country compared to , say, Haiti or Uganda. Only the most ardent participant in the emperor's new clothes mindset could possibly think otherwise.
A bizarre line in this BBC article
Bizarre? Seems exceedingly status quo to me. Have you people never heard of a mostly peaceful hostage taking?
Jeff Bezos, who helmed Amazon, is the son of a Cuban immigrant. Steve Jobs, who helmed Apple, is the son of a Syrian immigrant. Costco was co-founded by the son of Canadian-Romanian immigrants. Alphabet/Google CEO Sundar Pichai was born to a Tamil family in India before making his way to California. Microsoft CEO Satya Nadella was also born in India, later traveling to the U.S. to attend school in Wisconsin.
And if we had Norwegians, Swiss, French, Germans coming here instead, there would NO entrepreneurs among them? I mean, prior to 1965 when we removed the immigration controls that favored Europe, this country did seem to be moving along pretty strong and was the biggest source of innovation in the world.
Immigrants make it rain:
It's the never-ending mission of all JoURNaLisTs to conflate legal and illegal immigration.
This one's for all the center-right warboners who claim that Ukraine's will to fight has never been stronger (LOL); from The Times:
Facing conscription, Ukraine’s young are torn between fight or flight
Plans to mobilise half a million more troops leave nowhere to hide for those who would rather cling to a semblance of ‘normal’ life — nowhere except the nightclub
Maybe they should conscript a bunch of our directionless college student and academic population here in the states, too. It's the duty of all anti-Russian patriots to strap on a rifle for the homosexual diversity state. Slava Ukraini.
It’s the duty of all anti-Russian patriots to strap on a rifle for the homosexual diversity state. Slava Ukraini.
And they was mean and nasty and ugly and horrible crime-type guys sitting on the bench. And the meanest, ugliest, nastiest one, the meanest father-raper of them all, was coming over to me and he was mean and ugly and nasty and horrible and all kind of things. And he sat down next to me and said, "Kid...what did you get?"
I said, "I didn't get nothing, I had to pay fifty dollars and pick up the garbage."
He said, "What were you arrested for, kid?" and I said, "Littering."
And they all moved away from me on the bench there, and gave me the hairy eyeball and all kinds of mean nasty things, 'til I said, "And creating a nuisance," and they all came back, shook my hand, and we had a great time on the bench, talkin' about crime, mother-stabbing, father-raping, an' all kinds of groovy things that we was talking about on the bench.
"Maybe they should conscript a bunch of our directionless college student and academic population here in the states, too."
Once it was the young conscripts who complained that it was the old ones, the most enthusiastic supporters of foreign adventures, who should be conscripted. Now it's topsy turvy land.
It's because Ukraine had a baby bust in the late 90s-early 2000s, so they've been trying to avoid throwing their limited Zoomer pop in the meatgrinder. That's why their military is so fucking old to begin with, in addition to the trust fund kids having their parents bribe the officials to not draft them so they can continue farting around in Berlin and Warsaw.
The war would have ended 2 years ago without US meddling. Conscripting Ukraine's youth to prolong the war will only mean losing more territory to Russia.
The U.S. is already guilty of prolonging the war themselves.
Open borders will not work while we offer incentives and entitlements. While having zero borders may be the goal, the current scenario is drain on the resources of the current citizens. We should only be allowing immigration of people that meet a need and improve life in the country and not people who are likely to become a drain or danger to the existing citizens.
I'm not in favor of allowing a criminal Denmark any more of a criminal from Mexico or from anywhere else. Likewise a brilliant engineer would be welcome from any country. I like the notion of a sponsor for legal immigration and deportation for people who cross the border illegally. I also favor asylum seekers to remain outside of the country while they are being processed and a determination if they can have asylum and requiring the government to process the asylum claim within 30 days.
Give it up, 'reason,' nobody is falling for that tired old switcheroo of legal immigrants for illegal aliens. How much innovation and entrepreneurship do you imagine is coming out of Santa Ana or Anaheim, California, or Minneapolis aka West Somalia, or any city with a large illegal alien population? What are they innovating, new ways to do leaf blowing and bad drywalling?
But even taking your argument at face value, do you really think all those Indian CEOs (Microsoft, Google, Adobe, IBM, Honeywell, Starbucks, etc., etc.) are doing those companies any good? Apart from destroying America with social media, biasing search results, adopting DEI, and all the rest of the left agenda, I mean.
What are they innovating, new ways to do leaf blowing and bad drywalling?
To the government and aligned sycophants, doing a shitty job faster *for less money* is innovative.
Did you miss the mobs chanting Death to American in Michigan? We've basically got a whole city run by jihadis. That's what he meant by nice countries, ones that don't want to kill and enslave us in the name of Islam.
In other news, I stepped out into my back yard and soon realized that the sun was mostly blocked from the sky. There was a noticeable drop in temperature. As a loyal Reason reader I wondered if Ron Bailey was aware of this phenomenon and it's potential to prevent the impending global warming that keeps him awake at night. Could we not alter the orbits of the heavenly bodies and create daily cooling? As Ron often reminds us, humans have the ability to alter the climate to suit the preference of our ruling elites. Surely somewhere in our ivory towers exists an expert capable of making this happen. My research on the subject was mostly unproductive but I did find this:
https://modernity.news/2024/04/07/secretive-experiment-to-shoot-aerosols-into-the-sky-over-san-francisco-to-increase-cloud-cover/
A secretive project conducted from the deck of an aircraft carrier in the San Francisco Bay will shoot trillions of aerosol particles into the sky to increase cloud cover in the name of preventing global warming, and details have been held back to “avoid (a) public backlash.”
The experiment is being dubbed America’s “first outdoor test to limit global warming.”
“The Coastal Atmospheric Aerosol Research and Engagement, or CAARE, project is using specially built sprayers to shoot trillions of sea salt particles into the sky in an effort to increase the density — and reflective capacity — of marine clouds,” reports Scientific American.
“The experiment is taking place, when conditions permit, atop the USS Hornet Sea, Air & Space Museum in Alameda, California, and will run through the end of May, according to a weather modification form the team filed with federal regulators.”
More testing will be needed.
/R Bailey
We can enjoy a Libertarian immigration system AFTER we enjoy a Libertarian welfare state. That's not what we have, yo? Milton Friedman himself stated as much. Reason has never heard of Milton Friedman? Reading their takes on immigration the past 20 years it seems they never had.
Immigrants make it rain...
That's piss, not rain.
It never rains in southern California.
Waiting for Reason's article on "Due Process for thousands of Palestinians in Israeli jails in the occupied west bank" protest in NYC. Also waiting for those countless Palestinian "experts" and in depth interview on this or that in popular culture in NYC. Just like the ones the corporate media has been doing with...well you know.
"No hate. No incitement. No breaking any windows or lighting anything on fire. Just solidarity and love."
Best crowd money can buy.
“Y’all. Israel supporters have to pay people to come out to their protest,” wrote one poster on X.
“As my GenZ son says, cringe,” wrote another."
And yet there's no evidence to support your antisemitic claim. Could you be any less credible than you already are, Misconstrueman?
There's no pleasing some people. You think there's a better crowd to be bought? I'm really . This crowd was filled with love and didn't break any windows, even. No fires, and just the right amount of genocide apologetics.