Progress, Rediscovered
A new movement promoting scientific, technological, and economic solutions to humanity's problems emerges.

"The tragedy of today is that we are the heirs and the beneficiaries of thousands of years of progress and we take it for granted. You wake up in a nice soft bed. You go get fresh milk and orange juice from the fridge. You take a shower under hot running water. You hop on the train or car to work. You take the elevator up to the 40th floor. You earn your living by typing on a computer behind big plate glass windows in an air-conditioned building. You relax in the evening by streaming movies and music or catching up with friends from around the world in your real-time video calls. None of this existed a couple centuries ago. A lot of it didn't exist a few decades ago. And yet it's just so easy to go through your days enjoying all of that without giving a second thought to where it all came from or how, or how challenging it was to bring all of those amazing inventions into the world."
Jason Crawford, founder of the Roots of Progress project, is one of the leaders of a new pro-progress movement that is coalescing in a collection of think tanks, websites, and other intellectual incubators. It celebrates humanity's achievements so far. It judges progress not in technocratic terms but with an eye on outcomes for individual human beings. And it imagines, again in Crawford's words, an "ambitious technological future that we want to live in and are excited to build."
Rethinking Progress
These groups promoting economic growth spurred by scientific, technological, and industrial progress are quite distinct from modern political progressives. Contemporary progressives trace their ideological lineage back to the Progressive movement that arose in American politics around the turn of the 20th century as a response to the consequences of mass urbanization, mass immigration, increasing economic inequality, and rapid industrial growth.
Fundamental then as it is today among modern progressives is their certainty that they know the direction in which "progress" must go and that exercise of government power guided by a technocratic elite is central to achieving their version of "progress." Princeton University historian Thomas C. Leonard observes that early 20th century "progressives believed in a powerful, centralized state, conceiving of government as the best means for promoting the social good and rejecting the individualism of (classical) liberalism." In addition, he says, they believed in "the disinterestedness and incorruptibility of the experts who would run the technocracy they envisioned, and a faith that expertise could not only serve the social good, but also identify it."
A hundred years later, one illustrative distillation of modern progressivism is "The Progressive Promise" manifesto issued by the 101 members of the Congressional Progressive Caucus. "We believe that government must be the great equalizer of opportunity for everyone," forthrightly states the Promise. "We support bold policies to close the gap between the rich and everyday Americans and ensure our government delivers essential services to every person in this country." They envision "transformational change" that includes "ending poverty and income inequality," and "advancing racial justice and equity in every policy." It is notable that unlike their early 20th century forebears' belief in technological progress and economic growth, this essentially redistributionist manifesto nowhere mentions policies aimed at advocating and promoting either in the 21st century. In their view, uncontrolled economic growth is leading to environmental catastrophe and to appalling social consequences.
The contours of the new progress movement stretch from the Human Progress project at the libertarian Cato Institute to the "eco-modernist" initiatives at the Breakthrough Institute and the Pritzker Innovation Fund. Four relatively new groups at the forefront of the pro-progress forces are The Roots of Progress, the Institute for Progress, The Progress Network, and Works in Progress. Together, they are—as The Progress Network puts it—"building an idea movement that speaks to a better future in a world dominated by voices that suggest a worse one."
Cultural Pessimism
There are indeed many voices who say our future is bleak. William Rees, a population ecologist at The University of British Columbia, claimed last year that "collapse is not a problem to be solved, but rather the final stage of a cycle to be endured." Also last year, Stanford University biologist and indefatigable population doomster Paul Ehrlich told 60 Minutes "that the next few decades will be the end of the kind of civilization we're used to." A 2022 paper in the Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences declared that climate change could "result in worldwide societal collapse or even eventual human extinction." Last year an article in the Journal of Industrial Ecology suggested that civilizational collapse is likely this decade and certain by 2040.
These dire prognostications are reflected in bleak public attitudes, especially in rich developed countries. A YouGov poll in 2016 found only 6 percent of Americans thought the world was getting better. Other rich countries had even lower scores: Germany and the United Kingdom were at 4 percent, Australia and France at 3 percent. (The Chinese were the most optimistic, with 41 percent saying the world was getting better.) In 2017, a Pew Research Center poll reported that 41 percent of Americans thought that life today was worse than it was 50 years ago, compared to 37 percent who thought it was better.
In 2021, The Lancet published a poll of 10,000 young people (ages 16 to 25) in 10 countries (Australia, Brazil, Finland, France, India, Nigeria, Philippines, Portugal, the U.K., and the USA) asking how they felt about climate change that found pervasive pessimism about the future. About 75 percent reported that "they think the future is frightening," with more than 55 percent agreeing that "humanity is doomed" and 39 percent saying they are "hesitant to have children." About 45 percent responded that "their feelings about climate change negatively affected their daily life and functioning." A YouGov poll in 2022 found more than 30 percent of American adults thinking climate change will lead to extinction of the human race.
In 2023, 76 percent of Americans in an NBC survey were "not confident that life for our children's generation will be better than it has been for us." That same year, a Wall Street Journal poll similarly reported that 78 percent of Americans believe that life for their children will not be better than it was for themselves. A November poll by the European Council on Foreign Relations found only 24 percent of Americans were optimistic about their country's future. These are the headwinds that the emerging progress movement is combating.
The Optimistic Opposition
There is a division of labor between the pro-progress groups. The Roots of Progress is focused on creating a new philosophy of progress and promoting young intellectuals who propound it. In an essay outlining what that might look like, Crawford argues for "a renewed vision of the future" that accelerates technological progress to provide humanity with cheap, abundant, clean fusion energy, permanent settlements in space, and cures for diseases and even aging itself using advanced biotech. "A future where we don't just end poverty, but create new levels of wealth so fantastic that they make today's wealth look like poverty in comparison—just as was done over the last two hundred years," he writes.
"We are going to need a large body of intellectuals, of writers, creatives, educators, and journalists," says Crawford. To develop this cadre, the group has created a fellowship program as "a career accelerator for progress intellectuals." There were over 500 applicants for the first cohort, of which 19 were selected. The selected fellows analyze how to remove the regulatory roadblocks that stymie infrastructure and clean nuclear power deployment, how to incentivize countries to welcome more immigration, and how to overcome pervasive risk aversion in awarding research grants.
The Institute for Progress (IFP), co-founded by Caleb Watney and Alec Stapp, focuses on finding public policy ideas that can boost innovation sooner rather than later. "Because of the unique position of the United States, we have a moral call to really take the lead and embrace our role as the world's R&D lab," argues Watney. The U.S., he notes, has particular advantages when it comes to scientific and technological progress: the concentration of the world's top universities, the fact that the world's top scientific minds want to immigrate here, a huge and dynamic economy that enables the rapid iteration and prototyping of new technologies.
"The Institute for Progress is not an organization focused on mass politics," Watney adds. "We are not going to get people to hold up banners saying, 'I want total factor productivity growth to be higher.'" Instead, it's "a very incrementalist organization" that looks "for issues that are important. If you were to change them, would they really matter? Are they tractable? Does it seem like you could actually move the needle on them in a useful way in, say, the next five years?" Among other activities, IFP researchers engage in such nitty-gritty work as filing detailed comments on federal agency proposals. For example, the IFP recently advised the Biomedical Advanced Research and Development Authority on how to hasten the development of more effective coronavirus vaccines. Also, the IFP signed an agreement last year to partner with the National Science Foundation to help the agency develop faster mechanisms for funding high-risk, high-reward research proposals.
Meanwhile, Works in Progress publishes long-form case studies on how entrepreneurs, inventors, researchers, and others have successfully made progress in fixing various problems. It also prints proposals for how to ameliorate those still unresolved. Among the topics covered in recent articles: overcoming obstacles to tapping geothermal energy, upzoning in New Zealand to address housing shortages, how advance market commitments could have spurred the development of an effective malaria vaccine more quickly, and—in an article by Reason's own Peter Suderman—how mixologists surmounted the problem of boring drinks.
The Progress Network—based at New America, a liberal-leaning think tank—aims to bring together an ideologically diverse set of pro-progress scholars and pundits. Its founder, money manager Zachary Karabell, says he's aiming to "create a cohort of people who are united by a sensibility, but certainly not united by a monolithic view of what's working and what isn't." Its cohort of associates includes the Cato Institute's Mustafa Akyol, MIT economist Erik Brynjolfsson, George Mason University economist Tyler Cowen, Harvard psychologist Steven Pinker, journalist Matthew Yglesias, Columbia University linguist (and New York Times columnist) John McWhorter, Depolarization Project CEO Alison Goldsworthy, and Pritzker Innovation Fund chief Rachel Pritzker. Other Network members include the founders of both The Roots of Progress and the Institute for Progress. Karabell ruefully acknowledges that it is hard to get the independent "idea entrepreneurs" he has recruited into the Progress Network to collaborate. For now, the Network has assembled 120 or so members whose voices make the constructive point that the world, on the whole, is getting better. The Network highlights stories detailing the actuality of progress "from around the world that get kind of buried under the avalanche of negative stories" through its What Could Go Right? podcast, a daily newsletter, and social media.
The heads of all four organizations cite the animating influence of the July 2019 Atlantic article "We Need a New Science of Progress," written by Cowen and Patrick Collison, the billionaire founder of the internet payments company Stripe. "The success of Progress Studies will come from its ability to identify effective progress-increasing interventions and the extent to which they are adopted by universities, funding agencies, philanthropists, entrepreneurs, policy makers, and other institutions," Cowen and Collison argued. "In that sense, Progress Studies is closer to medicine than biology: The goal is to treat, not merely to understand."
Cowen and Collison are involved in the movements in other ways too. Both The Roots of Progress and Works in Progress have received grants from the Emergent Ventures project, administered by Cowen. Works in Progress became part of Stripe Press in 2022.
How Progress Got a Bad Reputation
Why did progress fall out of favor? Crawford suggests the strong belief in economic, technological, and social improvement that characterized 19th century Europe and America was dented by the next century's bloody world wars. "People before World War I had hoped that technology and economic growth would actually lead to an end to war and that we were entering a new era of world peace," he says. "That proved to be disastrously wrong. Not only had technology not led to an end to war, it had actually made war all the more horrible and destructive. It had given us the machine gun, chemical weapons, the atomic bomb."
Crawford also notes the 20th century saw the emergence of institutions featuring "top-down control by a technical elite." This, he argues, prompted "a countercultural idea that saw progress as linked to this authoritarianism and rejected both."
Watney points to the negative externalities that have accompanied technological development and economic growth—air and water pollution, climate change, deforestation—and suggests these have contributed to the disillusionment with progress as well. On top of that, he says, a spirit of complacency and safetyism has emerged in rich developed countries, adding new roadblocks.
"We have become the victims of our success, to a certain extent," Watney argues. "As you get increasing levels of wealth and productivity, you're more inclined to keep hold of the safety and the gains that you already have and less likely to risk a little bit to gain a lot more." Or as Karabell puts it, "If you're more worried about the unknown negative consequences than you're excited about unknown positive consequences, you're basically going to be sclerotic and not do anything."
You should not confuse this appreciation for past progress with a belief that progress is complete. Karabell stresses that he doesn't believe "we should just shut up and recognize" everything that's going right. It's just that "we are demonstrably able to create problems and we're demonstrably able to solve them."
Crawford thinks progress has slowed in recent decades. Two big reasons for the slowdown, he argues, are "the growth of the regulatory state" and "the centralization and bureaucratization of research, and in particular the funding of research." Both impose unnecessarily constraining limits on scientific freedom and the types of opportunities and inventions that can be pursued.
"It's totally fair to be frustrated with a lot of the excesses of the regulatory state," says Watney. More hopefully, he adds: "If you're so pessimistic about the current state, that means there should be lots of low-hanging fruit. Small changes could actually lead to really large increases."
The IFP's chief aim is to pick that low-hanging fruit by cutting down the overburden of regulation and reforming the stodgy processes that encrust science funding. So the group is working to streamline the National Environmental Policy Act so that it no longer blocks for years the building of critically needed infrastructure: roads, pipelines, electrical lines, and nuclear, renewable, and geothermal energy projects. The institute also wants to speed up the approval processes at the Food and Drug Administration and the Nuclear Regulatory Commission—in the first case to get new treatments to patients more quickly, and in the second to deploy modern nuclear reactors faster. It is pushing to reform the science funding programs at the National Institutes of Health (NIH) and the National Science Foundation. For example, researchers associated with the IFP note that NIH peer review grant evaluations now tend to focus on the probability that research proposals will achieve their primary outcomes. Thus this evaluation process generally steers funding away from high-risk, high-reward research. One IFP proposal to overcome this conservative bias is to have peer reviewers first assess how valuable the new cures and treatments stemming from the proposed research would be should it prove successful in developing new fundamental knowledge.
Trying To Make It Better
All these projects direct people's attention to Gapminder, Human Progress, Our World in Data, and other efforts that comprehensively document how much progress is still being made today. These changes include increasing average life expectancy, cutting extreme poverty, reducing childhood mortality, increasing wealth, supplying greater access to education, and empowering women's rights.
Yet merely pointing out the facts of progress isn't enough to persuade a lot of folks. It would be great, says Karabell, if it worked just to tell people, "You should all just read the data and change your views." But it usually doesn't.
So another theme that unites these four efforts is their embrace of narrative as a way to restore cultural faith in progress. "You can't throw facts in the face of people's emotions, or at least you've got to be very careful about how you do that," says Karabell. "You can't tell people that they should feel better just because the data tells them they should." Crawford agrees: "Narratives have a lot of power and they have more power than charts and graphs."
Saloni Dattani of Works in Progress explains, "One of the reasons that we started Works in Progress was we wanted to allow people to really go deep into some area that they were interested in and make a stronger case and longer case for something that they thought could improve the world or something that they thought was a challenge." Examples include a recent long article, "Watt lies beneath," that details how advances in geothermal energy could provide humanity with essentially unlimited supplies of clean energy, and the short video "Gentle Density: Brooklyn" describing how Brooklyn, New York, evolved into the second-most-densely populated county in the U.S.
As another example, Zurich-based Roots of Progress Fellow Alex Telford suggests over at his Liveware newsletter on Substack that the static concepts of health and disease are barriers to progress toward perfecting precision medicine aimed at maintaining bodily homeostasis. In her co-authored Salt Lake Tribune op-ed, "We should pay farmers to save the Great Salt Lake," Roots of Progress fellow Jennifer Morales explains how water markets can stop that body of water from drying up.
Karabell continues: "How one writes that story about the future is part and parcel of shaping that future. If you begin with 'We're fucked,' it's really hard to solve your problems because you're basically convinced that you can't."
These proponents of progress do not think that they will change the world overnight. "You have to create a critical mass," says Karabell, "and ideas take a long time to have an effect on society. But things do change, cultural attitudes do change." Dattani describes herself as an "impatient optimist."
"Pessimism is more arrogant than optimism," Karabell concludes. "Optimism is simply that we know for a fact that we are capable of solving problems. Pessimism is the conviction that we are not. The future isn't worse unless people stop trying to make it better."
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"The selected fellows analyze how to remove the regulatory roadblocks that stymie infrastructure and clean nuclear power deployment, . . . "
Never vote for a democrat comes to mind - - - - - - - -
Progressive = State enforced change
Liberal = Market guided change
Conservative = Opposes change
Now do libertarian.
He doesn’t know anything about that.
Yup. Plugly will find that a stumper.
"Libertarian" is a sub-category of liberal similar to classic liberal.
Progressives are not liberal. Fuck the media for confusing the two.
It is amusing you use these definitions then defend all the state control by democrats constantly.
You're lying. I never defend "state control".
Before you got here I did defend the fine levied against BP for the Gulf oil spill.
The wingnuts here at the time called it a "shakedown" by Obama. Fuck them - it was for damages caused by BP.
The only other time I was called out for "state control" was for my defense of FDIC insurance collected by banks to make depositors safe.
As for the SLOPPY PULLOUT! - shit happens when an occupying force leaves its captive. Just a blip in the sorry history of colonialism.
turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Been here since 2007ish buddy. Youre constantly defending the plans of the left and crediting then for anything they don't fuck up too badly and blaming the right for anything that goes badly lol.
Example. You blame Trump for Covid Lockdowns despite it being a state level issue, worse in blue states.
It is fucking hilarious you think you are tricking anybody but sarc.
Other examples: claiming Biden doesn't support the Green New Deal despite it being on his campaign website and using regulations to try to force EVs, you defend regulations in general, supported censorship, and on and on.
Name just one "plan of the left" I defend, you liar.
I notice your lame example involved Donnie. Name just one - but you are lying because you can't.
I defended free trade and smaller deficits (from Obama and Clinton) but if you call those "leftist" then you are certainly a moron.
Like Joe I opposed AOC's Green New Deal.
You claim Joe doesn’t support the GND retard lol.
And you support censorship. Were against deregulation under Trump. Support Ukraine war. Higher taxes. Interventionist policies. Blocking pipelines. Blocking energy leases. Selling oil reserve in an election year. Bidens immigration policy. Student loan forgiveness. Etc etc.
turd certainly is dishonest, but he’s got a heaping helping of stupid to go with his dishonesty. Stupid, lying, despicable steaming pile of lefty shit and proud of it!
You didn't even mention the posting of child porn
You’re a child molesting Sorosite. You have no right to exist.
Shut up, you idiot Trump redneck.
Ha! Not denied.
turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
I can’t really disagree with that basic assessment. Too bad by those definitions the only liberals in government are Republicans.
Ha! I win! I bet myself $10,000 that the first comment would be from a “conservative” and the comment would bash Democrats while contributing nothing of substance regarding the article’s topic. Thanks, Longtobeoppressed!! I’ll spend it wisely.
Congrats. I hope you show yourself a good time.
Is it your assertion democrats don't push regulatory measures while trying to stop deregulation? Lol.
Had a bet your first post would be full retard and defend democrats against criticism.
You should spend all the money on hard drugs and take them all at once.
Well ed, at least you’re not as bad as politicians who make no risk (to them) “bets” with other peoples money and profit from the graft.
And breaking even is probably the best you’ve ever done, so yeah, live it up, little guy. Congrats.
Ed 'bets himself'...
Must be some new fantasy played by steaming piles of lefty shit.
You can’t use monopoly money in real life, Ed.
Voting for a Republican doesn't do you much better. Never vote Major Party is a better slogan. Chosing between Reps and Dems is a lot like playing competitive Frisbee football. It doesn't matter who wins because they're all losers.
Progress is progressive, so True LiverTarts MUST oppose it, NOT appease it!
Have you True LiverTarts noticed that, right here in these that them that cumments, smell check doesn't work any more? It USED to work, and now shit doesn't! This PROVES that Treason.cum believes in regression, SNOT in progress!!! Therefor, all True LiverTarts should stink likewise!!! Else, the Tribal Dog-Pile and Dog-Shit Pile will GET ye!!! Bark-bark-bark, yip-yip-yip, howl-howl-howl, is howl shit goes!!!
"TrueLiverTarts"
I take it that this is some sort of attempt at wordplay that you imagine is terribly clever, but I have no idea what you're referring to.
True LiverTarts are fake libertarians, wolves in shitty cheap-sheep suits; Ravening sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturd authoritarians! I'd rather deal with liver-filled tarts on the menu, more so than sore-in-the-cunt cuntsorevaturd authoritarians!
Lack of meds on the weekend makes life at the home more creative.
The weekend staff are niave and never look under his tongue to make sure he's swallowed them. Also, they don't know how the Net Nanny works, so they don't notice when he turns it off.
It should be put down. Like Old Yeller. Except it wouldn’t be tragic.
Punk Boogers is like a broken record player, butt FAR more broken!!!
There's a Pritzger involved, and Matt Yglesias is on one of the boards. No wonder Reason is into this twaddle.
Progress is twaddle, that's correct!!! Ass I said above, progress is progressive, so True LiverTarts MUST oppose it, NOT appease it! Instead of sleeping on our nice comfy beds, in a climate-controlled house, we should sleep nude in the weeds, grass, and mud, and let the bugs and worms bite our butts!!! Who's with me, True LiverTarts!?!?!
#TrueLiverTartsLetTheBugsBiteTheirButts
Ezra Klein and Steven Pinker too.
Peak TeenReason libertarianism.
Liberteen Magazine strikes again!
Pritzker and Steven hawking go to a party, and request 28 year Olds to rape, oops I ment 20 8 year Olds.
Shrikes kind of party.
And Trump says, "No, you can't have them! They're mine!"
Dude, I think you mixed up which president is into younger girls.
No faggot, Trump bangs playmates and porn stars. Not little boys like you do.
And Ed says: 'Look at what a worthless pile of lefty shit I am!'.
Fuck off and die, asshole.
D-
I don't think that even when he was still alive, Stephen Hawking was likely to be capable of raping anyone.
When you are a true believer in think tanks and your measure of success is the power elite occasionally using one of your policy analyses to nudge the indicator a tiny fraction away from runaway bureaucracy, naturally you will tend to favor more think tanks. When the only truly effective arm in your “movement” is a group of lawyers who win occasional tiny (but important!) victories in authoritarian courts against authoritarianism while the state and official corruption continue to grow in power almost without even noticing those few set-backs, it becomes hard for us and our potential allies to envision - let alone ever achieve - a state of liberty. Yet growing wealth and technology manage to improve the lives of billions of people despite the death and destruction.
The technology of 1888, today!
My point simply being that 'electric cars' aren't as new as some people make them out to be, and are mostly a step backwards in technology.
Sure, they do have advanced features that are cutting edge technologically (blue tooth, driver assist features, radar, etc.) but those are mostly the bells and whistles and the battery itself. The rest of the vehicle isn't really 'new' in concept.
If battery technology gets way, way better really fast perhaps then they will be competitive in the market. Until then, they are toys for the rich and little else.
Battery technology isn't going to get better fast, nor is it ever going to get "way, way better". Battery technology is limited by chemistry. We only have one periodic table, and someone or other has already tried to make a battery based on every element in it. Battery capacity per pound is determined primarily by the energy of the chemical reactions in the battery, and we knew the energy content of every reaction over a hundred years ago. There are more energetic reactions than the ones with lithium, but they are very difficult to contain and control - and even the worst ones don't have more than twice the energy content of the ones we use now.
So if you want to improve batteries, there's no magic formula. You can work on a faster charge or increasing the lifetime before charge/discharge cycles wear out the battery. But you'll still have a tiny car that weighs 2 tons because half that weight is the battery, that has to stop every 300 miles or less to recharge, and requires an industrial-sized electric power connection for a fast recharge. If you want a 5 minute recharge on the road instead of 8 hours plugged into your garage, you have to deliver 8 hours worth of energy in 5 minutes.
You can work very hard to find a better way to package the reactants in a battery, so the "active ingredients" are a higher percentage of the weight and volume of the battery. That's slow and expensive research for just a few percent of improvement in capacity.
You can try to find a way to use higher-energy reactants like fluorine, but many of these spontaneously explode, and I think fluorine is typical of the others: most forms are a deadly poison that eats through everything commonly used to make containers. Many, many scientists researching fluorine died young before they discovered a way to keep their experiments inside their laboratory containers. Research such compounds if you dare, but either you go very slowly and carefully, using very expensive labware, or you won't live to see results. After decades of that expensive research, perhaps you'll have a 1,000 pound battery that holds as much energy as a 2,000 pound one does now, but you'll need 800 pounds of armor to protect it from leaking in a collision and poisoning everyone nearby.
Fundamental then as it is today among modern progressives is their certainty that they know the direction in which “progress
Literaly not true. Progressives is compleatly aimless and only seeks to become further leftist. That’s why you have half the progressives cheering and clapping about feminist progress when a man claiming to be a woman beats the shit out of an actual woman
Crawford also notes the 20th century saw the emergence of institutions featuring "top-down control by a technical elite."
Please define elite. If your talking about the people that run the massive corporations like Google Facebook Apple Microsoft etc, they are people that had one good idea, made a ton of money then thought they were God. In the case of Google their idea was based on how to let the feds spy on us citizens without the need of a warrent.
The "elites" are hated not because of tech progress but because they are pure evil.
Wow, how sad it must be to live in your twisted little world of unreality and madness!
Weren't you just commenting about posts with no substance?
Ed, you’re a leftist shitbag. You have no real argument and are valueless. Ideally you should end up in a landfill, along with your fellow travelers. Then America can be saved from what you’ve done.
Gee, what a horrible existence; fated to live in the lefty-shit hive-mind with never an actual thought!
Eat shit and die, asshole.
He also said that "we" should not just shrug and point to the successes of technical progress but learn from the downsides. Yet there will always be downsides to all progress, everywhere! Just as it is impossible for a technical elite to predict and direct progress, it is impossible for them to predict or mitigate the potential downsides. If "pollution" was a bad side effect of progress, further progress will help fix the problem once it becomes recognized. Declaring it to be a disaster of capitalism and reacting by trying to destroy capitalism is, itself, a disaster of progressivism. Capitalism manages to do a great deal of good for humanity despite the downside; progressivism does a great deal of harm to humanity while claiming almost no good at all.
You don't get progress by top-down control. At best you get more of the same ideas and suppression of new ideas because the guy in charge doesn't understand them. At worst, you get heavy investment in utterly ignorant and impossible ideas, because whoever is in charge at the top cannot know everything.
Progress requires freedom. But progress is not what "Progressives" seek. It's power - and someone gets that with top-down control.
From the article, technological progress "...had actually made war all the more horrible and destructive. It had given us the machine gun, chemical weapons, the atomic bomb."
So seriously, WAR is THE biggest problem that we face! Shit is THE most potentially deadly problem!!! We have ten bazillion nukes now, don't forget!
Moral-ethical (and dare I say, spiritual) progress is what is needed here. (Not that I oppose tech progress). Tech progress is unlikely to fix WAR! (Twat is shit good for? Absolutely NOTHING!).
An Axis of Evil here (leading to war) is the alliance between tribalism and do-gooder derogation, which are both emotions driven by sociobiological impulses (evolutionary psychology). Read all about it!
The intelligent, well-informed, and benevolent members of tribes have ALWAYS been feared and resented by those who are made to look relatively worse (often FAR worse), as compared to the advanced ones. Especially when the advanced ones denigrate tribalism. The advanced ones DARE to openly mock “MY Tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD! Your tribe’s lies leading to violence against MY Tribe BAD! VERY bad!” And then that’s when the Jesus-killers, Mahatma Gandhi-killers, Martin Luther King Jr.-killers, etc., unsheath their long knives!
“Do-gooder derogation” (look it up) is a socio-biologically programmed instinct. SOME of us are ethically advanced enough to overcome it, using benevolence and free will! For details, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .
Then they crucified Jesus, 'cause Jesus made them look bad! ALSO because Jesus made them look bad FOR THEIR STUPID, HIDE-BOUND TRIBALISM! "The parable of the Good Samaritan" was VERY pointed, because the Samaritans were of the WRONG tribe, in the eyes of "Good Jews" of the day.
Instead of KILLING Jesus, Mahatma Gandhi, Martin Luther King Jr., etc., we’d be better off VOTING for these kinds of people! But we will NOT, ’cause they Hurt Our Precious Baby Feelings, by giving tribalism and do-gooder derogation the disrespect that they (we self-righteous tribalists) SOOO thoroughly deserve!
Although I agree completely that war is the single biggest disaster to afflict humanity; and that technical progress made war more destructive, there is strong evidence that many fewer people, both absolutely and as a percent of the massively grown world population, have been adversely affected by modern wars. But the real point here is that, despite the destruction and misery it has caused, war has probably stimulated more technical progress in non-war sectors than any other single factor in history. I would be very glad if we could rein in our politicians and get them to stop the Global War Against Everything now and put America on a defense-only footing, but even if we achieve that we will still need continuing defense technology research and modernization and it will still stimulate advances in non-defense sectors.
"You should all just read the data and change your views."
Seeing as how the "elites" mentioned in this article have no problem with lying and falsifying data, and face nonrepricussions for doing so. People are very rationally looking at "the data" and calling bs when it demands that you ignore your lying eyes.
Granted it's a baily article and he would drink cyanide if some asshole from the noaa or the UN told him to
What facts does karabel have that technology has made life better over the past 10 years?
His goal is to develop narratives to convince people they are happy?
Ship the peice of shit to N Korea, or any other socialist country that does this
Happiness is not - and should not be - the measure of success. I couldn't care less whether you - or anyone else, for that matter - "feels" happy! In fact, dissatisfaction is probably the single biggest factor in most peoples' motivation to be more productive. This article started out with a long list of things that make you better off that were not available to ANYONE ten years ago and ten decades ago. If you don't appreciate them, that's on YOU, not on technology. If you are not spiritually satisfied, by all means join an ashram out in the woods, forsake all modern technical devices and contemplate your navel for the rest of your life.
This group seems like your average liberal humanist agitprop. Just under the guise of science and technology. Links to The Atlantic, talks of humanism, and even marxist theory.
https://rootsofprogress.notion.site/Resources-on-Progress-Studies-182847fba3784db297d719b0831ca429#48934760caee4c74ad1df9b5b6016826
That's why Ronnie knows them
Marx. Here we go again, stakeholder capitalism, subsidized consumption. What’s left when you run out of the subsidizers/taxpayers? Ganglands.
This group seems like your average liberal humanist agitprop.
That last group of TOP MEN who promised progress through DEI, ESG, and "The Science!" were idiots! The group before TOP MEN who before them who considered other people deplorables and bitter clingers and got elected through a narrative of pro-intellectualism, ending racism, and stopping the oceans from rising were idiots about their narrative too! Our *new* group of TOP MEN who promise more, better progress through new narratives and better The Science! that the people who disagree with the data will actually like have got it all figured out!
MORE TESTING NEEDED!
We must enhance our rhetoric!
https://youtu.be/YawagQ6lLrA?si=ioRIrSoVeyx-elyO
Think globally, act locally bullshit:
"UC Berkeley study confirms that yes, EVs do what they promise to do"
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"...Researchers from the University of California, Berkeley, found that between 2018 and 2022, CO2 emission from all sources (industries, homes, traffic) across the San Francisco Bay Area dropped around 1.8% per year – a difference the researchers attribute to widespread EV adoption in the area..."
https://electrek.co/2024/04/05/uc-berkeley-study-confirms-that-yes-evs-do-what-they-promise-to-do/#:~:text=Researchers%20from%20the%20University%20of%20California%2C%20Berkeley%2C%20found,attribute%20to%20widespread%20EV%20adoption%20in%20the%20area.
1) They have no way of being certain that EVs had anything to do with the drop.
2) The drop is more of a drip: <2%
3) And I'm sure they were scientists and not propagandists, checking places other than the bay area to make sure the 'gain' wasn't merely exporting the 'problem', right?
Also any asshole wanting to be technically correct can point out that emissions from the tail pipe are a small fraction of air pollution from cars, a majority of it is from tire and break water, both things that are worse with heavier cars... Like ones that use low energy density batteries for power storage
“Break water”
Is that like the compass water and tent stretchers we sent the Tenderfeet in Boy Scouts to find, before letting them be the bagman on the snipe hunt?
Break ware,
Brake wear. Just sayin'
Break war.
I'm pretty sure he means "amniotic fluid".
We should find out. Cut CO2 emissions by ending all CO2 output from leftists.
Most EV’s use regenerative braking, almost no need for conventional brakes.
Pretty sure RB is a 'thing' above a certain speed, none of which would be in city driving, and, of course, EVs ranges/charging times means they are hardly ever used in freeway use.
Did I mention that EVs suck? If not, EVs SUCK!
He is, however, overlooking suspension. Weight more, wearing on the tires and road more, can only be achieved by either a) a similar suspension that wears out more quickly or b) a beefier suspension. And this is actually the case, there's something like 10% more road and tire wear, but 25% suspension wear. Whether that's overpaying for a Tesla suspension that effectively can't be replaced or paying conventional manufacturers for more frequent replacement of standard parts is "just a really popular market decision".
How much would CO2 drop if they stopped breathing?
I wonder what else might have changed between 2018 and the end of the study period that might have skewed that data some.
Also, was there maybe something that happened to the California economy between those years that might have caused an offset for other unrelated reasons?
Including the COVID years in your data set is a curious way to reach a conclusion that EV mandates lowered CO2 emissions, and either way the change they measure is irrelevant to worldwide emissions.
They claim to have 'corrected' the data for the Newsom 'planned economy' lockdown, but like the claim they can isolate the gains as a result of EVs, I'm calling bullshit. Prove it.
It doesn’t matter whether they say it was successful or whether it did, in fact, drop CO2 emissions in the Bay Area. Electric vehicles are a technical advance that can and will compete in the marketplace with internal combustion technology. I have no doubt that there is a strong niche market for small, short-range, quiet vehicles in high population density urban centers. You can plug them in overnight at home and use them for short commutes or shopping or social activities. What we need to eliminate is the official interference in the market trying to FORCE the development beyond current technical limits and using “climate change” as the excuse to try to eliminate ICE personal transportation.
I've said it before, for like a decade, and I'll say it again: if there was a market that, if EVs did as they claimed, there should absolutely be genocide-levels of murdering the existing market happening and that's in the single-passenger vehicle moped/scooter/motorcycle market; and it's not. Practically the opposite.
Again, there is a urban global SPV market that is, in no way, tied to ICEs the way the American market identifies with the motor vehicle. The vast majority of users, if exchanging dollar-for-dollar, would almost certainly toss themselves off of buildings to trade several-hour overnight charging times for zero maintenance and/or near 100% reliability-uptime. Unfortunately, the trade is nowhere near dollar-for-dollar nor limited to a strict zero-maintenance for overnight charging proposition and actual single-person vehicles from One Wheel to Segways struggle to gain any market penetration outside pithy novelties and recreational applications like kids balance bikes, golf carts, and electric scooters for the infirm.
I'm with you. With nuclear power and whatever is beyond it, there is a point in the distant future where pumping relatively endless amounts of power down the wire to power silent vehicles, autonomous and other, that emit nothing and require no maintenance on, under, and above future ultra-highdensity city-scapes. However, that day is not today nor the readily foreseeable future.
Did that 1.8% come from taking the total and dividing it by 4 years? Because something happened in 2020 (that lasted through at least all of 2021 in California) that had a huge impact on emissions.
And it’s not something we should do again.
No, according to Gen Z-ers and their academic and political puppet masters, the current tragedy is that they have to occasionally do things they don't want to (work) and hear things they don't want to (speech) while not being able to live in the fantasy land they deserve.
'In 2021, The Lancet published a poll of 10,000 young people (ages 16 to 25) in 10 countries (Australia, Brazil, Finland, France, India, Nigeria, Philippines, Portugal, the U.K., and the USA) asking how they felt about climate change that found pervasive pessimism about the future. About 75 percent reported that "they think the future is frightening," with more than 55 percent agreeing that "humanity is doomed" and 39 percent saying they are "hesitant to have children."'
Any chance these delusions are more dominant in liberals, and perhaps correlates (and causes) the higher incidence of mental illness in young leftists?
If so, what do we have to lose if we encourage this thinking, so more of them refuse to spawn and even kill themselves?
Teen angst is a thing and has been since hormones were invented, so this might just be a found 'subject' on which to hang the hat.
It has been. But I do think current data show that little liberals are far more messed up than little conservatives. And likely that is part of a global catastrophe-progressive despair-authoritarian power grab reinforcing cycle.
Public education is a the gift that keeps giving.
Not sure. When I was a punk kid, the fear was nuclear annihilation. I remember being in a group discussion where a whiny (yes, lefty) bemoaned the horror of such a death! (to give a rough date, "California Dreaming" was playing in the background).
I asked why that would be worse than a car crash, and got a lot of arm waving.
Now, let's assume both are (were?) accurate in their predictions and compare/contrast:
1) Both posit a final outcome of the death of humanity. Given that 'value' is a strictly human value, what difference would that make if YOU were dead? The universe would not notice.
2) The first does not require me to live in abject poverty and subjugation for the (supposed) delivery from the damnation of the rapture. The second does.
Stuff it up your ass; I'm not superstitious.
I see there's no insanity in your family. You're the recipient of all of it.
Aren't you late for your Earth First! drum circle "science" meeting?
He is too big an asshole even for hippies.
He’s late for his one way trip to the vet.
I see (again, or perhaps, still) you are a steaming pile of lefty shit. Fuck off and die; make your family proud and your dog happy.
Vox the sequel. Try to solve hand grenades in Sweden before colonization of space. Priorities
The rebrand will work this time.
Liberal online news is collapsing, so pretend you're a think tank!
Let's just consider this thread a place of silent reflection...
Hi Diane/Paul! This place misses you.
Ah, but can they make the Comments section better and without a paywall? That would be progress!
'Bye, ya'll! Give me the boot when you're ready, Reason!
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"a response to the consequences of mass urbanization, mass immigration, increasing economic inequality, and rapid industrial growth."
Just as urbanization and industrialization were the impetus for "progressivism" initially, the decay of the big cities and globalization will be the death of the Progressive Caucus now. Naturally, the Progressive Caucus will not go down without trying to change the narrative in order to keep a death-grip on power. "Buy American" and "Look for the Union Label" are almost as laughable now as the picture of progressives in business suits wearing ANC shawls while kneeling in a Capitol lobby was in retrospect. We do not need yet another "movement" to promote actual progress - it's going to happen with or without a trade war with China or a "big beautiful wall" between the United States of America and the Estados Unidos Mexicanos. It's going to happen with or without funding and direction by technocrats in Washington, D.C. Just as government is incompetent to accomplish even the limited mission granted them by the Constitution, it will certainly continue to fail massively to predict or promote the future whatever it may turn out to be. I don't know what the future will bring, but I do know that it will be better overall with less government interference. Now, if we can just get our power-mad "leaders" to stop the Global War Against Everything and drop back to the previously prepared position of defending the country and ONLY defending the country, unforeseen progress will magically invent itself and move forward apace.
You know what, Crowder was wrong. Absolutely and totally wrong.
Years ago he thought that conservatives didn't just want a constant flow of doom and gloom about how horrible democrats were and how much damage they had done. He thought there was an untapped market for Comedy and Happy News among conservatives.
So he took a risk and tried to create a show that was funny and light hearted about the future. He did his best but that dream failed, I used to think it was because he got caught up in the cult of personality and took himself way too seriously.
Nope. It's because he was dead wrong. Conservatives just want to hear about how horrible democrats are and how the future is nothing but doom and gloom. You just can't sell them on hope and humor. They just want hate and doom. What a bunch of sociopathic sycophantic sad sacks. You fuckers need to get over yourselves.
Looks at the history of the west. It's not just conservatives and it's not just Christians. It's the same shit going back to Gilgamesh.
I'd say it's all humans but I don't know enough about eastern, african or new world religions. I suspect they're pretty doom and gloom centric too. The wicked nature of humans also seems to be a recurring motif.
Ok, I hate to be that guy but I want something more substantial than your say that this kind of deep doom and gloom goes all the way back to Gilgamesh. I think way back then they had real shit to worry about day to day and probably only thought about the "future" when looking into the eyes of a newborn.
I can say from experience that when you spend 12 hours a day working the fields you don't have a lot of time to worry about a future beyond hoping you get rain at the right times and no hail at the wrong times. Maybe Gilgamesh himself had time to worry about the future in between beating down enemies and being all cool and studly.
Enter the 'doom and gloom' of Climate Change.
Enter the 'doom and gloom' of Trump.
Enter the 'doom and gloom' of Free Markets.
Enter the 'doom and gloom' of Free speech.
Wait just a minute. Conservatives? U must be joking.
Seems the only 'hate' conservatives spout is getting blamed for everything you leftards do and try blame shifting it onto them. And if there's any question the left does that just go read the recent DNC platform. It's literally a hate manifesto against Trump.
Get bent.
#1) Fuck You, I've never voted for a Democrat in my life. Unless one of them voted for me while I was in the army. I was registered in Colorado after all.
#2) Have you read all the doom and gloom crap here when the article dared to talk about a better future?
#3 Fuck You again. Just because you're a whiney bitch who has one gear and it's all blame the Democrats all the time.
Progressive got a bad name when people were indoctrinated to believe 'Gov-Guns' made all that progress.
'Guns' don't invent sh*t anymore than they make sh*t. Something so obvious shouldn't be so hard to learn and the only learning inhibitor are those who keep touting their 'Guns' can make sh*t.
‘Guns’ don’t invent sh*t anymore than they make sh*t.
No, but they can sometimes fund the people who do, and they can also protect the IP of the people who do.
Do you think 'Guns' make money? No Guns STEAL money.
Yes. Protecting IP is part of Justice because it prevents the THEFT (exactly mentioned above) of a labored asset.
Is the money that the government uses to protect IP stolen? You appear to think so.
Yes. It is; but authorized THEFT by the US Constitution (the very definition of a USA). Maintaining a nation that ensures Individual Liberty and Justice for all requires a LIMITED amount of theft else it's existence cannot be ensured.
That's not an excuse to authorize THEFT for a socialist (wealth distribution) nation.
Pretty much all that progress existed 100 years ago. They had elevators and automobiles back then, fresh milk and good.
The problem is that not everyone now has a cushy job that just involves pushing buttons. Lots of people still have to do the real things that keep society going and they are the ones struggling to make ends meet. They can't afford homes or cars, unlike their counterparts 100 years ago. They can't east as well as they did even 5 years ago, because prices of quality food has skyrocketed.
"prices" "skyrocketed" because of all the 'armed-theft' it took to fund those "cushy jobs" for the sake of 'equality' on those who didn't want to EARN a living.
If the Gov-Guns aren't being used to ensure Liberty and Justice they are there taking away Liberty and ensuring Injustice.
Did you think the Jetsons was a documentary? There will always be a need for a guy with a tool in his hand. It might be a hammer, a power tool or a rifle. Trades will never be replaced by robots.
Yeah, yeah.
SleepSquat in pods. Eat the bugs. Own nothing. Be happy. We've heard this "Someone needs to be in charge of this problem we just dreamed up!" bullshit before.Go fuck yourselves.
Progress, Rediscovered
It was never lost. Just obfuscated by people who, yet again, claimed to be in favor of it.
Again, people act like I'm being some sort of backwards conservative when I say that people talking about free trade globalism are liars but this article proves my point exactly.
The opening paragraph is solid gold, worst-of-conservatism-cum-neo-puritanical-progressive-speak. People using warm water and watching Netflix aren't grateful enough to these peoples' particular tech deities. Just let this breed of technocrat progressive replace the old on and things will be fine... because of the moral problem of taking warm showers and watching Netflix.
Once again, just like with Gun Control, just like with Housing and Rent Control, just like with *Global Free Trade*etc., etc. these people don't care about guns or access to ammunition or housing or anything like that, they care about getting power in order to seem like they're making their vision of a utopia. They care about controlling people. Whether their actions and control actually better or stupidly, obviously worse is immaterial as long as they have the control.
– Jason Crawford
– R. A. Heinlein
Fuck off Crawford.