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Julian Assange

Greater Protections for Assange

Plus: Abortion pill case, another fatal subway crime, China's Cultural Revolution, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 3.26.2024 9:29 AM

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Extradition decisions: Yesterday, Britain's High Court ruled that WikiLeaks publisher Julian Assange—who stands accused of violating the Espionage Act due to his 2010 decision to publish classified documents leaked by whistleblower Chelsea Manning that revealed disturbing U.S. military actions—cannot be extradited to the United States until greater assurances are provided about how he will be treated in custody and at trial, including receiving First Amendment protections.

The court gave U.S. authorities three weeks to provide assurances that Assange "is permitted to rely on the First Amendment to the United States Constitution…that he is not prejudiced at trial (including sentence) by reason of his nationality, that he is afforded the same First Amendment protections as a United States citizen and that the death penalty is not imposed."

This decision had been anxiously awaited by Assange-watchers, given that he is very close to the end of the road, in terms of appeals, within the British court system.

The U.S. has until May 20 to provide these assurances to the British High Court; if they are not satisfactory, he will receive a full appeal hearing in the U.K. Concurrently, Assange's legal team is seeking an appeal with the European Court of Human Rights, which could possibly delay extradition further.

In other words, his fate remains uncertain, but this move by the British court is a decidedly good one. For more on Assange's case, watch this episode of my show, Just Asking Questions, in which Zach Weissmueller and I interviewed Julian's wife, Stella (who also happens to be an attorney who has worked on his case).

Abortion pill legality being considered: Today, the Supreme Court will hear arguments in a case involving the legality of mifepristone, one of the drugs used to induce abortions. The decision will most likely be announced in June, later in the term, and will have significant implications for whether the pill can be prescribed by mail or telemedicine.

"At issue is whether the [Food and Drug Administration (FDA)] acted appropriately in expanding access to the drug in 2016 and again in 2021," reports The New York Times. "The court is also expected to consider whether the plaintiffs, a group of anti-abortion doctors and organizations, can show that they will suffer concrete harm if the pill remains widely available. Lawyers call this requirement standing."

The Biden administration says, via brief, that the group of doctors has brought the lawsuit "based on speculative and attenuated injuries."

Here's a timeline of mifepristone approval, access, and lawsuits, spanning all the way back to 2000. More on how the FDA has determined mifepristone's risk/safety here.

"Two-thirds (66%) of US adults say they oppose banning the use of mifepristone, or medication abortion, nationwide, and 62% oppose making it a crime for healthcare providers to mail abortion pills to patients in states where abortion is banned," per a CNN writeup relying on KFF polling data from earlier this month. All of that is to say: abortion restrictions, particularly early-term procedures (which seemingly strike many people as less grotesque, more anodyne) have not proven to be a winning political issue for Republicans, so if the Supreme Court does move to restrict mifepristone, the political ripple effects may be major.


Scenes from New York: Another subway system crime, this one involving a man being shoved onto the tracks by a stranger, struck and killed by the oncoming train, during rush hour in East Harlem. (We discussed the rise in this particular category of crime on the JAQ episode with criminal justice professor/former Baltimore cop Peter Moskos.)


QUICK HITS

  • A little after 1 a.m. this morning, a cargo ship struck the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, causing the bridge to collapse. A rescue effort is underway for "upwards of seven people" who were reportedly traveling on the bridge at the time it collapsed.
  • Yesterday, a New York appeals court reduced the size of Donald Trump's bond in his civil fraud case from $464 million to $175 million and gave him an extra 10 days to secure the bond and pay up.
  • Joe Biden has gained on Trump in six of seven battleground states, per new polling.
  • Are Chinese cybercriminals stealing voter data?
  • In news that shocks literally nobody, wokeness is apparently "associated with lower mental well-being."
  • Really incredible scene:

The opening scene in Netflix's #3BodyProblem is a brilliant, terrifying depiction of China's Cultural Revolution. Watch it now.

The entire series is worth watching, but this scene, moved from the middle of the original novel to the start of the English translation, provides a… pic.twitter.com/BpEjPY58Vm

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    A little after 1 a.m. this morning, a cargo ship struck the Francis Scott Key Bridge in Baltimore, causing the bridge to collapse.

    I am awaiting instructions on what to blame this on.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

      The video, btw, was weird. Ship power appeared to blink off a couple times before the thing turned itself right into the support.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        Either very unlucky or very suspicious. There's smoke billowing the whole time, so it looks like it maintained engine power, but it looks like it really revs up before hitting it.

        One would think that a ship that big in a port like that would be on autopilot to stay in the right part of the channel. Maybe it was on autopilot and it suddenly jerked it into the bridge after the power outage. From watching the video several times, it sure does look suspicious.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

          "Autopilot"?

          I sure am no mariner, notwithstanding 3.5 years as a supply clerk on an aircraft carrier, but I really really doubt any ships rely on "autopilot" in river channels or harbors.

          1. HorseConch   1 year ago

            They may not. That was a random guess from a guy that has been passenger to boats in some tight channels.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Paging Captain Francesco Schettino...

          2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            I was a mariner for 20 years - ships do not use autopilot when entering and leaving port.

            1. LIBertrans   1 year ago

              Fishermen sure don't. At Galveston there are lights we keep lined up as we approach the jetties at Port Aransas. Those alignments tell us we're in the middle of the ship channel and our small boat is not about to hit anything or run aground.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          They have all hands on deck in the ship’s bridge to navigate the channel. It’s not as automated as an airplane.

          1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            On a civilian ship that would be, maybe, three people.

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          A harbor pilot takes control of large vessels as they make there way up the Chesapeake.

          Between this and the Ever Forward, a few years back, they don’t seem to be doing well. In the Ever Forward, the pilot was distracted on their cellphone and grounded the ship.

          1. rbike   1 year ago

            Friend of mine drives a train. On tracks. Not allowed to have cell phone in cab. Does have provided communication for emergencies. Too much danger to allow distractions. Makes real good money

          2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            You know who else said "for-Ever" and "Forward"?

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Obama?

            2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

              The guy whose banner bore a strange device, "Excelsior!"

        4. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          It was nowhere near the center of the channel and the engines were blowing smoke. Must have lost navigation soon after leaving the port. The crew had to be aware of the peril. Just speculating. Lot of liability here so we probably won't get any information from the ship owners anytime soon.

        5. Zeb   1 year ago

          I'm pretty sure navigation in and out of ports is still very much a human controlled thing. Really need to understand well how the currents and tides and stuff interact.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        It looks like they had an engine or electrical problem. The lights go out, then back on with a plume of black smoke from the smokestacks. Looks like they tried to reverse there, but the lights went out once again. After that, they drifted into the bridge pier.

        1. markm23   1 year ago

          The ship wasn't in the center of the channel, because there is two-way traffic under that bridge. They were properly in the right lane. A harbor pilot was required aboard, but as I understand it, a pilot does not steer the ship. He doesn't understand the ship's characteristics, so he tells the captain and helmsman where the ship should go, and they steer it.

          They were going out of the harbor at about 8 mph. That seems fast for maneuvering something so big in a harbor, but time is money - I'd guess thousands of dollars an hour in payroll, depreciation, and other expenses for such a ship - so they'll go as fast as practical. Nowadays I expect they've planned the whole course on computer to an accuracy of a few inches before they start, and they should be fine as long as the computer doesn't lose power or something.

          If all of a ship's propellers rotate clockwise, they have a "paddle wheel effect" pushing the stern to the right a little in addition to push in addition to the push. The helmsman corrects for that by turning the rudder very slightly.

          When the power blinked off, they reversed the propellers to slow down, which swung the stern left. Apparently they either forgot to steer against this, could not steer for a few seconds due to the loss of electrical power, or reversing the propeller roiled the water around the rudder so it lost effectiveness for a few seconds. With the stern going left, the bow pointed to the right - and it coasted into the bridge pier before they regained control or the ship slowed more than 1 or 2 mph.

          If they'd been nearly under the bridge when the problems started, they'd have been OK because they'd be past the pier before the ship turned. If they'd been further back, they would have slowed more and might have corrected course before they reached the bridge. If they'd done nothing, most likely the ship would have kept on course and been fine. But... Did someone panic when the lights went out?

      3. damikesc   1 year ago

        What I've read indicates that they lost steering due to a mechanical problem. Dunno if true.

      4. LIBertrans   1 year ago

        There was a long vid on Zerosledge, now unfindable, that showed a brightly lit ship going under the bridge successfully, then turning off a bunch of lights later on. Camera then pans back to the pylon. The Singapore ship approaches, blinks lights and smacks the support, "power outage" blamed. But why did the earlier ship shut off so many lights? Was it parking?

    2. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      Of course it's White Supremacy, the only question is finding the nearest white person or group they can target for the crime.

      1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        Trump.
        Always and forever, Trump.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          How long until shrike and msnbc blame this one event for any economic issues this year?

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

          DEREGULATION DID IT!

          1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

            And all those Libertarian politicians funded by The Koch Brothers!
            🙂
            😉

    3. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Francis Scott Key owned slaves. Therefore the name of the bridge is the root cause.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        I was about to say that. Plus bridges are patriarchal constructs, and an offense to Mother Earth, or at least the whales that bump their heads.

        1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

          Bridges, like guns, cause suicide. The bridge collapse saved lives.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            More like prevented illegal suicides, outside the oversight of government MAID centers.

      2. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Speaking of stupid shit like this, apparently in 2021 Patrick Henry Community College changed its name because Patrick Henry is verboten now. Say hello to Patrick & Henry Community College, named after the two counties it serves, Patrick and Henry... both so named in honor of Patrick Henry.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Are you TRYING to get cancelled?

        2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

          Somehow that seems very appropriate.

        3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Wasn’t Patrick Henry anti-slavery? He was born on a plantation, but if I remember rightly he wrote against it and criticized his own state of Virginia, saying slavery had retarded its development. He had slaves but treated them like employees instead, saying that freeing them would just get them enslaved to others.

          What could those morons be complaining about?

          1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

            "Liberty for me, death for thee."
            -Patrick Henry, circa 2020

          2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

            It was one of those Virginians (I think Henry) who wrote that he knew slavery was wrong but he intended to keep relying on slave labor because he didn't want to give up his lifestyle.

            1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

              That might have been Thomas Jefferson.

      3. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

        Crashing into the bridge was an escalation of the "kneeling for the national anthem" that was so prevalent in the NFL (and other sports) a few years ago. Francis Scott Key wrote the poem that was turned into the national anthem. So it was just a more destructive version of kneeling to protest the national anthem.

        /sarcasm

    4. Knutsack   1 year ago

      Depending on what side you're on, either white supremacy or DEI.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Personally, I am on the side of gravity. Check out the Gravity Party candidate for 2024, Giant Meteor.

    5. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      It is interesting that the ship hit the Key Bridge at exactly the point at which it would do the most damage and not only take much of the span down, but also put the Dundalk port out of business for quite a while.

      1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

        It didn't 'hit at exactly the point at which it would do the most damage'.

        It hit a support. If it didn't hit a support, well, it wouldn't have hit anything, would it? And dropping any support would have brought the whole thing down.

        Stop being a conspiricist.

        1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

          Yeah. It hit a 20 foot wide support which brought most of the over-water part of the 1.6 mile bridge down. Pretty accurate accident.

          1. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            Bruh, yes, its going to bring the rest of the bridge down. The two spans resting on that pylon are pretty heavy and they're going to disrupt their neighbors - if it had hit the other span the same thing would have occured.

            And you'd be surprised how often ships hit small targets *in the open ocean*. Its not 'hit a small target' - its 'a small object intersected with a MASSIVE one*.

            Especially when you lose power (and thus steering) and drift off course.

    6. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Buddy of mine, heard it crash this morning. He didn't report hearing any "Allah Akbar" or "Lock Her Up" chants, so I think the usual suspects are off the hook.

    7. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Too early to blame it on the dawns early light

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Fist got one upped.

      2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

        TOO SOON

    8. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Was expecting some lines from the anthem from you.

    9. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      direct assault on our national anthem

    10. R Mac   1 year ago

      Just don’t blame it on terrorism, they’ve already done an intensive investigation and concluded it wasn’t that.

    11. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      CARGO SHIPS DON'T COLLAPSE STEEL BEAMS!

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Ha

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Does this mean sailors will have to take their shoes off and be groped before boarding?

          1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Those are freedom feels and all USA citizens should be happy to accept liberty's embrace.

            1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

              Don't forget to cup the balls!

          2. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            Hey, a fella could pay good money for that in some ports.

          3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Considering they're celebrating new 'wind driven' cargo ships (now where have I heard of that before) maybe taking off the shoes will be so they can have better traction when tending to the lines and stays.

    12. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      Buttigieg is on his way, my bet is he blames it on the racism of Francis Scott Key.

    13. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      The ship sports a Singapore flag. So according to Mangu-Ward it is ipso-facto obvious that it has nothing to do with the Chinese Communist Party. Case closed. Next?

      1. NoVaNick   1 year ago

        If this is indeed sabotage, my bet would be on China. Baltimore is one of the biggest ports on the East Coast and exports a lot of farm and construction equipment from the Midwest.

    14. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I am awaiting instructions on what to blame this on.

      C'mon man. This is Reason! It's clearly Sen. Wesley Jones' fault for introducing the Merchant Marine Act of 1920.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Yesterday, a New York appeals court reduced the size of Donald Trump's bond in his civil fraud case from $464 million to $175 million and gave him an extra 10 days to secure the bond and pay up.

    Things are coming up Trump.

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Still.
      Imagine having to pay $175 million just to make an appeal.

      If this was Russia and Putin's leading opponent had to pay $175 million just to appeal a crooked ruling, Reason would be full of opprobrium.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Imagine having to pay 500M without any victims.

        The whole scenario is shit. The left was losing their minds yesterday with MSNBC saying the courts were favoring Trump.

        1. HorseConch   1 year ago

          It has been fascinating to watch. They were all cheering along while he got railroaded by a phony court. Next, they were all pumped about how broke he was. Stage 3 was them upset because he was going to let her take his shit and that would help him win. Now, the justice system is unfair because he is getting off scott free by posting a $175M bond for a crime that had no victims or losses.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Yup. But the cunts at MSNBC all have at least stage 3 TDS, and need to wail every day.

          2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

            Then he made a cool $3 billion the same day.

            1. HorseConch   1 year ago

              Looks like it's more like $5B at the current stock price.

          3. R Mac   1 year ago

            “Stage 3 was them upset because he was going to let her take his shit and that would help him win.”

            This was the talking point sarc settled on. Poor sarc.

            1. mad.casual   1 year ago

              And, again, these people are our elected leaders, our nominal betters. The people who, apparently, can't avoid walking into a "Do what I want or I'll hold my breath until I pass out." Polish Standoff.

          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            The center-right's been puffing themselves out about how this was fraud, and are starting to realize now that if it was, the banks were complicit in it--either because they didn't do their due diligence as required, or were in on the "fraud" themselves because they figured they'd get more money on the back end through interest.

            Well, great, but if that's the case, why didn't James go after the banks, too? And why hasn't she or the DoJ done what amounts to a RICO or mass suit against the industry for doing this practice for fucking literal decades?

            And the answer is that everyone knows why--like the Carroll civil suit, it was designed specifically to selectively prosecute and punish Trump. No one else. And they've been such tards about it that this shit isn't even moving the needle politically anymore--Biden's been such a shit President, and the pendulum in the culture war is finally starting to swing back the other way, that Trump is in an honest-to-goodness position where the 3 am ballot dump, fake water main breaks, and fake election-day voting machine breakdowns might not be enough to overcome his margin for victory.

            Everyone fucking knows this is a political persecution that doesn't have jack shit to do with the actual laws. The center-right like the Dispatch pussies are trying to pretend that these are justified, but they're just as dishonest as their leftist allies.

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

              Well, great, but if that’s the case, why didn’t James go after the banks, too? And why hasn’t she or the DoJ done what amounts to a RICO or mass suit against the industry for doing this practice for fucking literal decades?

              James has said she won't prosecute others in similar situations. It violates stare decisis to prosecute only one party when the proof is the same in both cases. The People have to be able to rely on the courts to apply the law equally in all cases.

            2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              ""Well, great, but if that’s the case, why didn’t James go after the banks, too?""

              I was making that point yesterday. The fine is about profits (ill-gotten gains) due to misrepresentation on the paperwork. The bank clearly made money on the deal too. Why Trumps gains are foul and the banks gains are not, is a valid question. That's something that should be raised in the appeal.

              1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

                The fine cannot be about profits because it's more than the value of the buildings and these weren't 30 year minimum payment mortgages

        2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          Please to be noticing who get the loot - - - - - - - -

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Not the "victims". They aren't getting a dime and they don't want it either. This was plain and simple robbery by a pair of criminals abusing the court system and egged on by a clique of fascists.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Remember, one man's criminal is another Marxist's freedom fighter.

      2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Imagine having to pay $175 million

        It’s an absurd amount of money. But if you look at it as a percentage of his net worth (excluding Truth Social) it’s the equivalent of someone worth $250,000 having to cough up around $20,000. It’s a lot, but it’s doable.

        Again, I’m not defending the judgement. Just putting it into perspective.

        1. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

          I'm not racist, but...
          I'm not sexist, but...
          No offense, but...
          I'm not defending [the Left], but...

          Sarc, never defending the Left, but always defending the Left.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            You are an embarrassment to the Corps.

            1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

              You are an embarrassment to humanity.

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Just here for intelligent discussions. You say so all the time. Why won't people believe you?

            3. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              "I don't like your posts, therefore you're an embarrassment to the corps"

              -sarc

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                I’ve got a few friends and several coworkers who are retired Marines (they make it very clear that they’re “retired,” not “former", hooah). They’re some of the most humble and respectful people I’ve ever met in my life. They’d be embarrassed to see that guy representing their beloved Corps.

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  cough cough *bullshit* cough cough

                2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                  I’ve got a few friends and several coworkers …

                  Things that never happened.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    I don't know... Let's check in on the Massachusetts Maritime Academy while we're at it.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      How far the mighty have fallen.

                3. Uilleam   1 year ago

                  I'll take things that never happened for $500, Alex.

                4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  Ain’t that cute. Textbook ad hominem. “You’re a liar, therefore I need not consider what you said.”

                  I could write a textbook about people fellating fallacies about you guys. Which is pathetic, since before The Donald was elected, such fallacious arguments were a hallmark of the left. People right of, say, Tony, could be counted on refraining from fallacies or making an effort to not use them when pointed out.

                  Now it’s a badge of honor. Y’all are even worse than the leftists were when O’Bummer, the black Irish Jesus, was president.

                  2014: “You don’t like his policies because you’re racist!”

                  2018: “You don’t like his policies because you’re deranged!”

                  You guys became what you hate. Pathetic.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Still not an ad hominem retard. Do you need the examples again?

                    2014: “You don’t like his policies because you’re racist!”

                    Weird. You do this shit all the time regarding migration. Including Saturday.

                    I could write a textbook about people fellating fallacies about you guys.

                    Going to figure out what fallacies mean first?

                  2. R Mac   1 year ago

                    sarcasmic 5 hours ago
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                    Mute User
                    You are an embarrassment to the Corps

                    Wtf kind of response did you think this deserved? Fucking retard.

                5. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Always made up "friends" to justify you being an asshole. Lol.

                6. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

                  I’ve got a few friends and several coworkers who are retired Marines (they make it very clear that they’re “retired,” not “former”, hooah).

                  No, you obviously don’t. OOHRAH. Not hooah, moron.

                  Even sand fleas are more worthy of respect than you are. You certainly don't rate to speak for any Marines.

            4. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

              You are an embarrassment to the Corps.

              You're an embarrassment to the core.

          2. LIBertrans   1 year ago

            Trumpanzees can be counted on to screech, burn Beatles albums and books, hop up and down and fling ordure every time Sarcasmic posts a clear statement. Ah! Do I spy a Moot Lewser button?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Nooooo! Not the Beatles!

            2. R Mac   1 year ago

              I missed the burning of Beatles albums.

        2. Zeb   1 year ago

          The difference is that someone with $250 k net worth can easily get $20k in cash without spooking the markets and crashing the value of their major holdings.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            Sarc’s made it pretty clear discussing this he’s quite ignorant on the relevant topics.

        3. R Mac   1 year ago

          More of a justification than a defense.

        4. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Again. You are defending it. Judgements are based on harm. Not based on net worth.

        5. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

          No you ignorant cunt. The person in your example would have $249k in home equity and $1k in cash and all other assets with maxed out credit and the fraud judgement preventing them from getting a home loan. The only way to pay would be selling the house for a cash offer and netting far less than the $249k. But you know this and are lying in your standard defense of Leftist abuses.

      3. windycityattorney   1 year ago

        Its not 175million to appeal. Its 175 million to stay enforcement of the judgement while the appeal is ongoing.

        He lost the case and the judgment amount is still owed until or rather unless the appeals court lowers it. And its not a fine. Its a disgorgement. Apparently had real numbers been used vs his fake numbers, the interest rates and insurance rates of the various deals would have been markedly different. Since this was an ongoing course or practice over many years; it adds up quick.

        1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

          Show the math.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Again. The banks testified they did their own valuations. Are you sure you're a lawyer.

          The judge valued the disgorgement as the delta in imagined loan rates as well as the total profit on the buildings. The profit includes the interest paid on the loan. Using both metrics went way above assumed loan rate deltas.

          We know you aren't a mathematician, but are you sure you're a lawyer? The judge here double hit him on the claimed harm using the formula he did.

        3. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          ""Apparently had real numbers been used vs his fake numbers, the interest rates and insurance rates of the various deals would have been markedly different. ""

          The bank probably based the interest rate on past business and that Trump is a VIP customer. This is something that could have been brought up if there was a trial.

          The summary judgement was basically based on saying the paperwork was incorrect and on that alone you will not get a jury.
          If a jury heard the testimony from Deutsche Bank about the loans that they gave in the penalty phase, I don't not think there would have been a guilty verdict.

          1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

            In a just world, yes, I would agree. With a jury drawn from residents of New York City, I could see them voting liable regardless of the evidence or counter-evidence provided at trial.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      In the Libertarian spirit of defending even the undefendable, on another Forum, I actually did this with the very Trump I despise.

      When an Attorney, of all people, called Trump a traitor, I said that he may be either a Giant Douche or a Turd Sammich, but calliing him a traitor requires arresting, indicting, trying, and convicting him of all elements of Treason specified in Article Iii, Section 3 of the U.S. Constitution proven before a Judge and Jury of Peers with no acceptable defense, beyond a resonable doubt.

      I then pointed out that The Founders set a high bar for Treason for a good reason, since they were considered traitors to The British Crown of the biggest Empire on the face of the Earth at their time.

      And then I said you may arrest, indict, try, and attempt to convict him and sentence him to death if you wish, but I’m still not voting for either Trump or Biden and no one can make me.

      And since I considered myself soiled with the mere thoughts and words of Giant Douche vs. Turd Sammich, I excused myself to perform Pilates and *Ahem!* washed my hands of the whole thing.
      🙂
      😉
      I hope all the Trumpistas are happy!

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Oh, and I also pointed out this also holds true with all the accused J6 Insurrectionists, who have long since deserved their Constitutional Right to a speedy public trial.

        I am nothing if not consistent.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Joe Biden has gained on Trump in six of seven battleground states...

    Things are coming up Joe.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Apparenrly screaming about the death of the USC football coach is worth a few points to dems.

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        UCLA fans hardest hit.

    2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      They must be polling the Dominion voting machines and AI.

    3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      One poll, others just as recent show it going the other way in the swing states.

    4. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Joe Biden has gained on Trump in six of seven battleground states…

      I know Ukraine and Gaza, what are the other 4? Yemen? Jordan? Are we still counting Afghanistan?

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Are Chinese cybercriminals stealing voter data?

    Actual voter data or the made-up stuff?

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      No widespread theft.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      And are they doing research on voter gain of function?

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...wokeness is apparently "associated with lower mental well-being."

    The downside of mining victimhood for power.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Emotional angst and nihilism are not downsides. Ask any revolutionary or totalitarian.

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

      This guy gets it. ^

    3. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      According to Jordan Peterson, the #1 risk factor for wokeness is being female; #2 is low verbal intelligence.

      https://podclips.com/c/low-verbal-iq-strongly-predicts-politically-correct-beliefs

  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The opening scene in Netflix's #3BodyProblem is a brilliant, terrifying depiction of China's Cultural Revolution.

    Some will see it as a roadmap.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      They already do

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Oh did I get the clips mixed up? I thought I was watching a video from Evergreen College in Washington

    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

      The book was great. Chinese author. He apparently had to move the first chapter in his release in China to get past the censors there. Put near the middle.

      The trilogy is one of the better ones I've read.

      No the Netflix series doesn't stay true to the book. Some scenes yes. Many no where near close.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        They'd never portray it to show just how insane that period became, because too many people here Europe and the FVEY nations might start seeing the similarities.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          And most of those would be motivated to try harder.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Yeah. The entire BLM and now Palestine movements are mirrors of the red guard and the young pockets of the SS. It shows the irrationality of the crowds to subject others to a belief system.

          The book does an amazing job with this.

          In the 2nd book it catches up with the 3 red guard members who killed the professor in the opening scene and talks about how they were the first ones sent to the work camps after they were no longer useful to the revolution.

          Still shocked China allowed the publication with how scathing it is against the Mao revolution.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Yeah. The entire BLM and now Palestine movements are mirrors of the red guard and the young pockets of the SS. It shows the irrationality of the crowds to subject others to a belief system.

            Yeah, it's not an accident that the Cultural Revolution, the New Left and violent revolutionary period of the late 60s-early 80s, and the Current Year movement were/are all fronted by youth groups, particularly university students. These are the stupidest people who mistake their idealism and self-righteousness for wisdom, and are ridiculously easy to wind up.

            The destruction of the Cult of Youth that's been active since the end of World War II is going to have to be a pre-requisite for any society to have a hope in hell of remaining functional.

            1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

              Communism was ongoing during the thirties and forties. Plenty of university students took up the cause, some fanatics joined the Spanish civil war fighting for Stalin's "Republicans". In the forties many took up spying for the USSR. We had a respite in the fifties lasting to the Vietnam war.

      2. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Judging by the clip on X, not a pleasant movie.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          No but an important one. And I was reading a post from a second generation Chinese woman whose grandmother had to experience watching it done to her husband, and she said it was actually worse.

          IRL they did it to him for several days in a row, stopping just short of death, and the family was forced to go on stage and clean up the blood after every session. Truly one of the most evil times in human history, and people don’t realize we’re heading down the same path.

          Edit: I guess she’d actually be third generation.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

            I was a kid when the cultural revolution was going on. I remember reading a story about it in Life magazine with page after page of big glossy photos. Mostly old men being hauled around in carts through hostile crowds. What I don't remember is any denunciation of Mao. The whole thing was portrayed as a foreign oddity. Maybe I was too young to get it but I don't remember any particular outrage in the press at the time. My Lai on the other hand...

            1. R Mac   1 year ago

              Just look at the disparity in how it’s covered in schools compared to Nazi Germany.

              1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

                The media doesn't even cover the Japanese atrocities prior to and during the war in contrast to the nazis but they sure know who to shame for Hiroshima.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  The media doesn’t even cover the Japanese atrocities prior to and during the war

                  Really? "Empire of the Sun" immediately comes to mind. Before the History Channel became mostly reality tv they had programs chronicling the horrors of Japanese occupation of China. Yeah it doesn't get as much coverage as Germans killing white people, but it's not like it's been ignored.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            It's important to remember, in context, that the violent suppression of the Tiananmen protests took place precisely because Deng remembered what happened to China, and to him personally, the last time a bunch of university students decided to get uppity.

        2. Stuck in California   1 year ago

          The clip isn't the movie.

          It's an origin story. To alleviate spoilers I'll not go into detail, but it was to explain a character's motivations.

          I haven't seen the movie, this is from reading the book. Which was beautifully translated, BTW, the translator adding foot notes for the English reader who might not get certain bits of cultural context. The third book was Meh, second OK, first one excellent. Well worth the read, especially with the interesting twist of the Chinese viewpoint.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Yeah. 3rd one was a bit of a slog but I still enjoyed it.

            And I really enjoyed the dark forest theory stuff. But the imaginary girlfriend was too sarc like minus the character being intelligent.

      3. Super Scary   1 year ago

        "No the Netflix series doesn’t stay true to the book"

        After watching their cartoon/anime live adaptions, this is not shocking in the least.

    4. Homer Thompson   1 year ago

      or a lazy remake of the demise of ned stark from season 1 of GOT

    5. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      I'm with Nick on this one. But if the thing hews close to the book, and series never do, it may be just the excuse the illiterati need to NOT read the books--nor nor listen to the unabridged audio. The real deal was recommended to me by an engineer. It is a sobering look inside the "finite pie" and "us or them" mentalities endemic to looter worldviews.

      1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

        No wonder you'd be in perfect harmony with the CCP.

  7. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Another subway system crime...

    The Tom Cotton Plan isn't working.

    1. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      Needs more surge.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        Crime is down. Quit watching the bad channels that tell you otherwise.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Yeah, crime is down. Like in the subways more than at street level.

          1. HorseConch   1 year ago

            I've been told by a myriad of talking heads and politicians that increased crime is misinformation.

          2. Krokko   1 year ago

            "When you walk into a place like this, you take three steps down. Physically AND socially."

        2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Ah, but not reporting does not mean non-existent. As long as an anti-"snitch" culture exists, as long as people equate reporting violent crimes with Karen calling the cops on kid's lemonade stands or adult neighbors smoking joints, crime statistics will always be approximate at best or wildly inaccurate at worst.

          1. LIBertrans   1 year ago

            So, to hell with repealing any of those moronic laws?

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      How dare you mention Tom Cotton. Now the entire NYT news room has to take the day off for emotional counseling.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Ackshuyally, IIRC, the previous fatslity in the NYC subway was considered self-defense and no charges were filed against the shooter.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...until greater assurances are provided about how he will be treated in custody and at trial, including receiving First Amendment protections.

    The Limeys think he has dirt on Hillary.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

      Also, the Brits blathering about free speech rights being honoured is rich.

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        It's not like he prayed silently or misgendered someone, those are real crimes unlike supposed espionage.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        One hundred percent, but despite the hypocrisy I'm glad they're doing it, because the centipedes in the IC really do want to Guantanamo Bay his ass.

      3. JesseAz   1 year ago

        No I don't think Assange should be in jail. But this isn't a 1st amendment issue. He isnt indicted for publishing. He is indicted for providing tools and instructions to get the materials off the system.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          Do you think publishing cnc code to turn a block of aluminum into a receiver is free speech?

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Thats not what he did. He was working directly with the person to get information off. They didn't just go to his blog.

            1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

              I guess the distinction is;
              "you could break the law by doing X"
              vs
              "please break the law for me by doing X"

              1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                So, mind control?

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  More akin to a mob boss telling his crew how to rob trucks and asking them to.

                  1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

                    There wouldn’t be reprisals from Assange if they didn’t do it.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      If he wasn't an active participant in the execution he'd be fully covered under precedent.

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        I was tickled that the British officials even know how to spell "free speech".

      5. Sevo   1 year ago

        ^+1, FoE.

  9. NealAppeal   1 year ago

    Nobody needs more than 3 types of body.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      I always thought the three-body problem was whether you dig one big hole, or three smaller ones.

    2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      I've heard of Body Type A and Body Type B, but what's the third type of body?

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        "X"

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          Formerly known as?

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

        Non-trinary.

        There are 10 types of people in this world, those who understand trinary, those who don’t, and those who don’t get it.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Numbers look bigger in base 3.

      3. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The entire trilogy is about theoretical physics.

        https://en.wikipedia.org//wiki/Three-body_problem

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

          I wondered if it was porn.

          1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

            I bet you thought The Brother Karamazov was porn.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    At issue is whether the [Food and Drug Administration (FDA)] acted appropriately in expanding access to the drug in 2016 and again in 2021...

    Without even bothering to trump up an EUA?

  11. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    The opening scene in Netflix's #3BodyProblem is a brilliant, terrifying depiction of China's Cultural Revolution. Watch it now.

    I'm on the third episode. Like the series so far. And that opening scene was as he describes.

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      I wonder if you’ll be able so see the comparisons to what your comrades are doing now?

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Too drunk to notice.

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        No. He and his comrades can't tell the difference between fantasy and historical/science fiction. Marxist ideologues really have trouble distinguishing between science and magic. That is how they come up with shit like bears in trunks.

        Considering the campus struggle sessions that have been caught on phones in the last 10 years, this history will repeat itself.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          I’m particularly curious with sarc (guess I’m back on mute this week) because a little while back around the time when he was expressing faux outrage about trump calling commies vermin, he made the brilliant claim that all the violence done by them was done by governments and not people.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            If there is one absolute fact in discussions with sarc is he has never read a history book and has no desire to do so.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              Ditto logic texts (exception: wikipedia)

    2. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      I went through all three books long ago and recommend them as a window onto Chicom premises. Most of China's problems stem from British moral intimidation. Like today's christianofascists, Palmerston Brits used tu quoque to convince Celestials: "If opium is so immoral, surely you must ban backyard poppies--not just OUR dumping of boatloads of trunkfuls of prepared smoking opium, right?" The Qing fell for it, were toppled, and the socialists who replaced them cold-turkey made the glut, Balkan Wars, and WWI--as glutted producers fought over shrinking markets.

  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    More "progressive" governance from Colorado, as reported by the Denver Post:

    Democrats in the Colorado Senate fought off a challenge from within their own party Monday and advanced a bill that would increase displacement protections for tenants — clearing that hurdle nearly a year after the legislative death of a similar proposal.

    The bill generally would give renters of apartments and other housing a right of first refusal to renew an expiring lease. Landlords would need to have a good reason for not allowing them to renew, such as failure to pay rent or plans for substantial renovations.

    The bill drew strong pushback from Republicans and some Democrats over concerns it would swing the balance too far toward tenants.

    The measure faces a final vote in the Senate as early as Tuesday. It then would need agreement from its legislative backers in both chambers for changes made in the Senate before heading to Gov. Jared Polis’ desk.

    Will they affirm peoples' rights to (other peoples') property? How far can the left-left wing of the Colorado senate go? What will Gov. McDreamy do?

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      In isolation and with those as possible reasons for denial, this isn't too bad. Now combine it with other property restrictions and I can see where this quickly becomes abusive if not a transfer of ownership but not responsibilities.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

        And does this almost mandatory renewal continue at the old price?

        What an unnecessary bill! No landlord is going to throw out a good tenant paying market price, just for the fun of finding a new tenant who may or may not be as good. The only purpose of this bill is to force landlords to rent to bad tenants.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          What an unnecessary bill! No landlord is going to throw out a good tenant paying market price, just for the fun of finding a new tenant who may or may not be as good. The only purpose of this bill is to force landlords to rent to bad tenants.

          Retarded Colorado potheads unironically believe that landlords are artificially keeping rents high, and that rent controls are needed. The people they vote into office are just as retarded as they are.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            A groovy apartment in a cool neighborhood with no/low rent in a human right. Also, free wifi.

            This makes me think again that we should think about redrawing American jurisdictional boundaries. Our legacy states no longer accurately distinguish political and cultural populations, and thus at least distort republican governance.

            Imagine Colorado divided into three new entities: Front Range, Western Slope, and Plains. Would they function better in governance?

            1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

              Imagine if parcel owners on the border between states could change states -- move the border around them.

              The hell with foot voting.

              1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                Even crazier idea: remove geography from representation. Let's allow Americans to define as many political entities as they like, and then declare affiliation. We can have, say 50 groups, each with two senators. And House representatives can be allocated by population.

                Even more crazier: Split the nation into ideological groups that share the same land mass. But each group can then define laws that only apply in-group.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

              This makes me think again that we should think about redrawing American jurisdictional boundaries. Our legacy states no longer accurately distinguish political and cultural populations, and thus at least distort republican governance.

              Honestly, redrawing the state lines is probably the only thing left that might extend the life of the US a bit longer. As it stands, I'll be surprised if we make it another decade.

              1. rbike   1 year ago

                Think if only liberals had to pay for all the spending they want. I'd be all for those taxes on them.

      2. R Mac   1 year ago

        No, it’s an abomination of property rights and free association. I’m not familiar with Colorado’s constitution but I doubt it gives them the authority to do this.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          I wish you were right. The Democrats in Colorado have exceeded those in CA and NY in some ways.

          Last year the citizens voted down a referendum for revisions to property taxation and state income tax, especially rebates over the allowed maximum revenue. Polis then called a special session, which let the Democrats pass laws that essentially imposed what the people had just rejected.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            And keep in mind, that "solution" was to a problem they caused in the first fucking place by convincing Colorado's idiot voters to get rid of the Gallagher Amendment, because none of them actually have the stones to try and get TABOR repealed.

    2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      "displacement protections"
      ?????????????

      I feel so disadvantaged by only speaking English (the American kind)

    3. Eeyore   1 year ago

      The Colorado National Socialist Party loves this kind of shit.

  13. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    8 states are planning to BAN the sale of gas-powered cars entirely - after Biden unveiled ambitious plans to phase them out by 2032

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/yourmoney/cars/article-13237051/ban-gas-cars-biden-evs-states.html

    A more accurate headline would be "8 states are planning to BOOST the sale of gas-powered cars in neighboring states"

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The 2030's power plant dearth will be interesting.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Unless they do something about the dearth of charging stations, there won’t be a big draw on power plants.

        Problem with EVs is range. I can see them being practical for someone who just putters around town. But for long drives through the middle of nowhere you can’t just strap a jerry can to the bumper. And without a robust network of charging stations, the places EVs can travel will be limited. Due to that range anxiety, I think lots of people will buy gas vehicles or hybrids in neighboring states.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          ML, didn't sarc claim you were on mute just yesterday?

        2. R Mac   1 year ago

          Reduced freedom of movement is the feature, not the bug.

        3. Super Scary   1 year ago

          Forget charging stations, I'm advocating for bumper-car style power lines over every street, just like in the Super Mario Bros movie.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            The trollies in San Francisco are pretty neat. Or at least they were before all the, you know, shit.

          2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Turn the country into one big Rice A Roni commercial!

        4. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          They want to depopulate rural areas and have us all move into their 15 Minute Villages.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Good thing Biden and these states recognize the constitution.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      I pointed this out as well when Colorado passed that stupid law saying that 80% of its vehicle sales had to be electrict

      The Biden administration is doing this mainly because the numbers have come in, and the average person doesn't want to buy these electric vehicles. They're for status chasers and shitlib suburbanites who don't have to worry about how they'll charge up their vehicle every night. So the administration and the blue cities are going to brute force everyone else into going along with it, which will also benefit them by forcing people in the hinterlands to move closer to the urban cores.

      The article says that New Mexico Demoshits are trying to figure out how to implement something similar, given that Lujan-Grisham is basically Gavin Newsom's pet poodle and tries to copy whatever California does. It looks like the main thing holding them back is the fact that so many of their blue-collar and Indian Dem voters would get absolutely screwed with something like this.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        They're doing something similar here in Maine. Though they're getting a lot of pushback, even from people who already own EVs, because they're shit in the winter. Battery power doesn't work well when it gets cold outside.

        1. Randy Sax   1 year ago

          I'll go EV after the invention of the fission battery.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            People act as if electric cars are a new thing. Know when the first EV was made? 1888. They've had over one and a quarter centuries to figure this shit out.

            1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

              Then why didn’t they?

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                Energy density. Physics is a bitch.

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            Probably safer than the Li batteries. I'm waiting for homeowners' insurance with a rider excluding fire caused by an EV.

            1. Zeb   1 year ago

              Rescue people really don't like having to deal with EVs after a crash either. Between the dangerous voltages and the likelihood of a very hard to put out fire it's not a nice thing to have to get into.

              1. Sevo   1 year ago

                Do not remember the district/city, but one FF said in an interview that they recommended letting them burn. Seems some of the gases from the burning batteries are *nasty*.

              2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                I drove past a car fire once like fifteen or twenty years ago. The heat was crazy intense. Scary shit. And it wasn’t even an EV.

                1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

                  Agreed. Until you've seen one close up, you wouldn't believe how fierce a full car fire can be. I still vividly remember the one I saw as a child in 1989. We were a good distance away for safety, and it still felt like an inferno.

          3. Incunabulum   1 year ago

            We already have those;)

          4. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

            Mr Fusion.

        2. damikesc   1 year ago

          I have a loaner car which is EV.

          The loaner given had a defective battery.

          If your battery dies…doors do not open.

          Great times.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Wouldn't that happen to any car with power locks?

            1. damikesc   1 year ago

              Not like this. Doors were unlocked (my son left it a little while earlier). The latch to physically open the door --- does not work. Was told that happens in new cars.

              Which makes the lack of any advanced notice of a battery issue all the more fun.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Yeah, when the battery dies in an EV, the car completely bricks out. It's why battery replacement is so fucking expensive.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        New Mexico is Arizona with more Marxists, er, artists, and less money.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          Yeah, people don’t realize how fucking poor that state actually is. Everyone thinks of Santa Fe when New Mexico comes up, but that’s an outlier of a city which is mainly just a colony of California and Washington DC boomer retirees, supported by native peon labor. Albuquerque’s got the Air Force base and Sandia Labs, Rio Rancho has the Intel factory, and Los Lunas has the Facebook data center, but these are relative blips on the economy. It’s really a working-class, blue collar state that would revert back to being a giant sheep ranch if it wasn’t for the federal government’s economic presence.

        2. VinniUSMC   1 year ago

          New Marxico?

        3. Incunabulum   1 year ago

          So . . . not like Arizona at all. Arizona at least is a functioning state.

    4. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      THAT is why Maine repealed its dry laws, and every dry state after went bust. To Prohibitionists this was proof godliness had to be imposed at gunpoint on the entire nation, and the 16th Amendment was the rotten egg hatched of that cracked pot. Observe that the 21st "repeal" amendment simply set the stage for a resumption of prohibition, with federal thugs enforcing the superstitious edict of State bigots.

      1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

        You're actually mistaken. Prohibition actually reduced crime, as well as abuse--and contrary to your claim, there wasn't any "godliness" that was "imposed at gunpoint at the entire nation"--Prohibition didn't cause a civil war. The "superstitious edict of State bigots" did society a big favor.

        Here's the source, coming from Vox of all places:
        https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/2019/6/5/18518005/prohibition-alcohol-public-health-crime-benefits

        And another:
        https://lafollette.wisc.edu/news/prohibition-may-have-extended-life-for-those-born-in-dry-counties-nov-2023/

        Repent of your evil ways.

  14. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The court gave U.S. authorities three weeks to provide assurances that Assange "is permitted to rely on the First Amendment to the United States Constitution…that he is not prejudiced at trial (including sentence) by reason of his nationality, that he is afforded the same First Amendment protections as a United States citizen and that the death penalty is not imposed."'

    Sure, Assange can have the same assurance of First Amendment speech rights as all US citizens. Not sure what that is worth these days.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      As long as he doesn't say Maga and cheers on chock at Jesus he can say what he wants

    2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Promise that; but only give him the 'republican on J6' kind.

      1. Ronna McDaniel   1 year ago

        Haha, I was lying when I said those people had rights, suckers!

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    "At issue is whether the [Food and Drug Administration (FDA)] acted appropriately in expanding access to the drug in 2016 and again in 2021," reports The New York Times. "The court is also expected to consider whether the plaintiffs, a group of anti-abortion doctors and organizations, can show that they will suffer concrete harm if the pill remains widely available. Lawyers call this requirement standing."

    Did anyone ask the clumps of cells?

    And would it matter if they rebranded themselves as fetal migrants?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Or squatters

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Big no to that, squatters have rights.

  16. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Another subway system crime, this one involving a man being shoved onto the tracks by a stranger, struck and killed by the oncoming train, during rush hour in East Harlem. (We discussed the rise in this particular category of crime on the JAQ episode with criminal justice professor/former Baltimore cop Peter Moskos.)'

    Shoved, or spontaneously invited to participate in an authentic ethnic folk dance?

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      I need to know everyone's race before I can begin to assign fault, exoneration or sympathy.

      1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

        Skin color is the most important thing.

  17. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'In news that shocks literally nobody, wokeness is apparently "associated with lower mental well-being."'

    Feature, not bug.

    Also, a trend that we should encourage, and then offer MAID at all woke population clusters.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      At this point I assumed poor mental health was a requirement for being woke, so not shocked here.

      1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        So does wokeness cause mental illness or does mental illness cause people to be woke? Chicken v egg?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Yes.

        2. Zeb   1 year ago

          I think it attracts the mentally ill and then makes them worse.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            Partially, but I also think college freshmen who aren’t mentally ill are susceptible to propaganda by faculty and older students while they’re adapting to college if they didn’t have a freedom in high school. I went to a bit of a party school, and there were a lot of people that were overprotected in high school that went nuts with partying when they got there and flunked out that were neither mentally ill or stupid.

            1. Zeb   1 year ago

              Yeah, definitely only part of it. I don't think it accounts for all of wokeness. It's just something I have personally observed several times with people I know.

        3. LIBertrans   1 year ago

          Uh-hilk, uh-hilk... (Moots Lewser)

          1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

            ^ Here's a mentally ill person where you can start testing your hypothesis!

    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      I read this morning that Calgary rejected the plea of a father of a healthy 27 year old to deny her access to MAID.

      State sponsored suicide is not a conspiracy theory.

  18. Randy Sax   1 year ago

    "The opening scene in Netflix's #3BodyProblem is a brilliant, terrifying depiction of China's Cultural Revolution. Watch it now.
    The entire series is worth watching"

    It's not. I did watch that opening scene but got bored after it jumped to present day.
    I did binge From on Sandra's recommendation. It was alright. The characters have the problem all characters have in sci-fi horror, their personalities and attitudes change on a dime depending on what the scene requires their personalities to be at that moment, without regard to past characterization or actions.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Character development was much stronger in the book. I had high hopes for this series and was disappointed after the first scene.

      Half the characters in the show aren't even in the book.

    2. Dillinger   1 year ago

      From was breathtaking until it wasn't ... and then I didn't pay for the second season.

  19. R Mac   1 year ago

    Uh oh, Massie supports a Reason bugaboo!

    “My district has 250 miles of the Ohio River with 3 dams, city water intakes & a dozen bridges.

    The Jones Act requires shipping on inland waterways to be conducted with vessels built, registered & crewed in the United States.

    I support the Jones Act even if it’s “protectionist.””

    https://twitter.com/RepThomasMassie/status/1772612360940769303

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      On inland waterways it probably makes more sense.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Yeah, I haven’t read any of the more recent articles here about it, but the ones I had in the past, I don't remember them addressing inland waterways. I just thought it was funny.

      2. R Mac   1 year ago

        Just went back and skimmed the responses he’s getting hammered pretty good by Spike and a bunch of other prominent libertarian accounts.

  20. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'The opening scene in Netflix's #3BodyProblem is a brilliant, terrifying depiction of China's Cultural Revolution. Watch it now.

    'The entire series is worth watching, but this scene, moved from the middle of the original novel to the start of the English translation, provides a rare but important depiction of a society run amok by power-mad, ideology-crazed groups hell-bent on purifying society along Marxist-Maoist lines.'

    I am most of the way through Days of Rage: America's Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence, by Brian Burrough. For those who forgot the 1970s (or neglected to learn), that decade saw the rise of multiple "revolutionary" groups, motivated by Marxism and black power, who sought to motivate the American proletariat through bombings, assassinations, and other "actions". By the time the decade ended, these Mao-admirers (at least for methods and success) had committed thousands of actual violent acts. And also inspired thousands of illegal responses from the FBI, police, and other government agencies and officials. I was a bit surprised to (re)learn how much our American revolutionaries directly engaged with comrades in Cuba, USSR, Algeria, etc.

    So while the revolution did not happen here, it was not for lack of zealous killers eager to destroy our society.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      I am most of the way through Days of Rage: America’s Radical Underground, the FBI, and the Forgotten Age of Revolutionary Violence, by Brian Burrough.

      I've recommended that book before on these boards, and I'm glad to see someone run through it. Burrough himself is a turbolib who was sympathetic to the revolutionaries, and so they ended up telling on themselves quite a bit in interviews that he did with them.

  21. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    From the WSJ:
    Truth Social Stock Surges on First Day of Trading
    Shares of Donald Trump’s social-media company rose about 40%, making the presidential candidate’s stake worth approximately $5.5 billion.

    Democrats have a new target!

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      Thanks to support from our old friend Mike Liarson.

  22. R Mac   1 year ago

    Interesting we haven’t heard from buttplug or Fascist Jeffy this morning…

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      What will sarc do for head pats now?

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Imagine having to resort to moderation4ever or Tony.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Or misconstrueman?

  23. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    More from Colorado (and the Post):
    Enbrel drugmaker sues over Colorado’s potential price cap, says prescription drug board is unconstitutional
    Amgen’s arthritis medication is first drug ruled unaffordable by any state in the country

    A drugmaker whose product could be the first subjected to a price cap in Colorado is suing to throw out the state board that deemed its medication unaffordable.

    In February, the Colorado Prescription Drug Affordability Board ruled the arthritis drug Enbrel was unaffordable for patients in the state. It was the first time any state in the country made such a declaration, and set up a months-long process to determine whether the board should set a ceiling on what Colorado patients and pharmacies pay for that drug.

    Enbrel costs patients and their insurers more than $46,000 per year, the board found, and it won’t have generic competition until at least 2029. Patients use it for four types of arthritis and two other conditions where the immune system attacks the body’s tissues.

    The lawsuit, filed in U.S. District Court in Denver on Friday by drugmaker Amgen and two of its subsidiaries, alleges the board wasn’t only wrong to find Enbrel unaffordable, but that the Colorado law that created the panel is unconstitutional and should be overturned by the courts.

    -- First in the nation! Take that, California!

    BTW, Colorado might get its wish, and reduce the amount people in the state pay for Enbrel. Like to zero.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      The company should reduce the output to match, and stop selling in Colorado.

  24. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>greater assurances are provided about how he will be treated in custody and at trial

    we promise to keep him in custody underwater long before trial, will that work?

  25. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

    Another subway system crime, this one involving a man being shoved onto the tracks by a stranger, struck and killed by the oncoming train, during rush hour in East Harlem. (We discussed the rise in this particular category of crime on the JAQ episode with criminal justice professor/former Baltimore cop Peter Moskos.)
    One thing I have noticed is that there are exactly zero instances of people shoved onto the tracks at the Disneyland Railroad.

    I wonder why.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Just saw mugshot of suspect. Quelle surprise!

      The deranged career criminal charged with shoving a straphanger to his death at a Manhattan train station showed no remorse as he was led out of an East Harlem precinct Tuesday to face murder charges.

      Carlton McPherson, 24, is accused of pushing a 54-year-old Bronx man in front of a No. 4 train shortly before 7 p.m. Monday — the latest in a long line of arrests and disturbing incidents, police said.

      Before he officially came out of the precinct, he had a smirk on his face before trying to put his hoodie on.

      Cops removed his hood, and during the walk to a car, he had a serious face and turned his head away from cameras.

      He did not say anything or respond to any reporter questions.
      Police said he shoved the victim in front of a No. 4 train as it entered the 125th Street station and was busted after he was fingered by bystanders.

      The victim was struck by the train and pronounced dead shortly after police arrived.

      The incident comes amid lingering concern over crime in the transit system.

      An analysis by The Post this week found that felony assaults in the system have jumped by more than 50% since 2019, and now make up a larger percentage of overall transit crime.

      [McPherson] was released without bail after he was arraigned on an October 31 arrest for assault, menacing, harassment and other charges in Brooklyn.

      He failed to show up for court twice and a judge issued a warrant for his arrest. He was picked up and brought to court on Jan. 11, where bail was set for $2,000 — which he posted. His next court date was set for July.

      “Recidivism is a real issue and the second issue we have in this city is a severe mental health illness problem that was played out at 125th Street and Lexington Avenue at the subway station,” Mayor Eric Adams said. “And he was a recidivist, several severe mental health issues, indicators of violence. When you do an analysis and a cross correlation, you will see its the same people, over and over again.”

      1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        The gun made him do it.

        1. Michael Ejercito   1 year ago

          How does Disneyland avoid these kind of incidents?

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            the princesses are armed ... like Haifa

      2. LIBertrans   1 year ago

        The Republican and Democrat factions wanted initiation of force and got it. So must we now also listen to their "not THAT force" whining?

  26. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>if the Supreme Court does move to restrict mifepristone, the political ripple effects may be major

    nothing mobilizes chicks like the loss of murder-power.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      I remember ripple effects as a bad hangover and occasional projectile vomiting.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        the kids will never understand the 80s.

      2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        Or an unwanted pregnancy.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Even the “if the Supreme Court does move to restrict mifepristone” is exceedingly ENB-sane on several levels.

      First, if we were talking about pretty much any other drug, vaccine or other, SCOTUS telling a regulatory agency they have to follow their own rules isn’t a restriction, let alone some Constitutional crisis.

      Second, mifepristone isn’t the only drug approved for this purpose. Adding a second layer of “You’re going to make me tell you a second time, aren’t you?” to the equation.

      Third, all variants of testosterone are the exact inverse regulatory modality. That is, rather than “Follow these steps, show it’s safe and effective, and you can sell all of it you want. Your hormones, your body, your human rights after all.” they are regulated according to the “We’re going to assume that it causes everyone to go into a murderous rage before dying of a heart attack unless you can prove otherwise.”

      Fourth, and this is probably just me being a pragmatic male about things even if No. 2 weren’t true, not that SCOTUS blocking it would be a good thing, but if your womanhood depends on the sole source of the one compound that allows you to intentionally abort early-term pregnancies, I’m not entirely convinced people like Dylan Mulvaney are entirely wrong to try and steal your (notion of your) gender from you.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        >>if your womanhood depends ...

        oh ya, all that.

  27. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Scenes from New York:

    have you written yourself as Wolfe Pliskin yet?

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      I’d watch.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      An eyepatch would take away from Liz' sweet duck lips.
      🙂
      😉

  28. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Yesterday, a New York appeals court reduced the size of Donald Trump's

    I know, I'm juvenile ... it's why Archer is funny.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Archer is now a smattering of progressive talking points

      1. Ska   1 year ago

        My Archer canon has him dying in the swimming pool. Nothing after that exists.

        1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          I think they could've gotten a lot more mileage out of the Figgis Agency.

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        I haven't seen the last season. Jessica Walters dies and the place goes to shit?

  29. Dillinger   1 year ago

    #3BodyProblem

    my experience is 3 bodies is a party not a problem what's the problem?

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      3 bodies is a party not a problem

      Oh, it's a scene, man...

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      my experience is 3 bodies is a party not a problem what’s the problem?

      When they're dead, they're just called hookers. #4BodyProblem

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        and there's the Saigon whore who bit my nose off!

  30. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >> wokeness is apparently "associated with lower mental well-being."

    sociopaths gravitate towards tyranny it's their heroin.

  31. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Are Chinese cybercriminals stealing voter data?

    why steal what Joe Manchurian will store in his UPenn office gratis?

  32. Incunabulum   1 year ago

    >‘Another subway system crime, this one involving a man being shoved onto the tracks by a stranger, struck and killed by the oncoming train, during rush hour in East Harlem. (We discussed the rise in this particular category of crime on the JAQ episode with criminal justice professor/former Baltimore cop Peter Moskos.)

    Isn't this something that large American cities just have to put up with as the price for all the great things about living in a large American city you get? Like, didn't Wolfe once say something about how a certain amount of mass-transit crime was just . . . normal for major cities?

    Which, it isn't, when you get off the coasts, but hey.

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      Well, some amount of crime is always to be expected in a city. I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure Liz just quoted some SF dipshit saying stuff like that.

    2. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      The looters passed a zillion moronic laws that wreck the economy. Now, SURPRISE! There's an added zillion types of manufactured moronic crime plus a rise in actual crime. Nice work, republocrats!

      1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

        "We must reject the idea that every time a law's broken, society is guilty rather than the lawbreaker. It is time to restore the American precept that each individual is accountable for his actions." - Ronald Reagan

  33. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

    Public transportation would be much more popular in this country if it were racially segregated again.

  34. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    Looks like I have to stick with Trump after all. I really did think RFK Jr. would have been better at purging the Deep State, but his running mate is a no-go for me.

    RFK Jr. Picks Radical Leftist As Running Mate

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      Huh. I kind of thought he might pick someone to appeal more to center-right voters.
      Article says a lot of states require a candidate to have a running mate before they can apply to get on the ballot. Seems pretty fucked up when the major parties just automatically get to put their candidate on the ballot.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        >>appeal more to center-right voters

        he said out loud last week he's a (D)

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          No doubt. But I think he is well aware that he gets a lot of interest from people who wouldn't normally vote for a D or who have recently abandoned the party.

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            after the last four years my money is on no (R) voting for either (D) this time.

            1. Zeb   1 year ago

              Not being an R I couldn't say, but if I do end up bothering to vote, I'm close to being a single issue voter on covid authoritarianism still. Anyone still speaking out against that shit gets a lot of credit in my book. At the very least, it's good that disaffected democrats have an option.

    2. NoVaNick   1 year ago

      At least she’s cute.

  35. NoVaNick   1 year ago

    I thought I might vote for RFK jr, if I vote at all. There’s always the LP candidate I guess, but it would be fun to see a third party get more than 5 % of the vote

    1. LIBertrans   1 year ago

      Another swooning George Wallace hanger-on...

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        I know you're suffering from dementia, Hank, but comparing RFK Jr. to George Wallace is evil and shitty even for you.

        Time to get the nurses in the dayroom to switch the channel to something other than CNN.

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