UT Austin Brings Back the SAT After Scoreless Kids Underperform
The college is the latest in a spate of schools reinstating SAT and ACT test requirements.

During the COVID-19 pandemic scores of colleges began shifting to test-optional admissions—and stayed that way, even after pandemic restrictions no longer affected students' ability to take college entrance exams like the SAT and ACT. As of March 2024, the majority of U.S. colleges are test-optional, and more than 80 will refuse to consider student test scores at all.
However, there has recently been a resurgence for standardized tests. New studies showed that the tests were a better predictor of student achievement than their high school GPA, disproving the longstanding theory that standardized tests are biased and don't accurately capture student ability. Over the past few months, elite college trendsetters like Yale University, Dartmouth College, and Brown University have begun requiring applicants to submit standardized test scores again.
This week, even more evidence arrived indicating that standardized test scores are much more useful than other tools when it comes to predicting later student success. The University of Texas (U.T.) at Austin, in a press release announcing the school's return to requiring test scores in admissions, revealed startling data showing a massive achievement gap between students who submitted their test scores and those who didn't.
"University's own data further revealed that on average, students who submitted standardized scores performed significantly better on those exams and in their first semester of college, relative to those who did not take the test or chose not to have their scores considered as part of a holistic review," the press release reads. "The University has also demonstrated that knowledge of standardized test scores contributes to higher graduation rates."
According to the press release, students who submitted their SAT score had a median score of 1420, while those who didn't scored just 1160—a more than 250-point gap amounting to more than a standard deviation. Of the students who were admitted and enrolled in U.T. Austin, those who submitted their scores were estimated to have earned a first semester GPA .86 grade points higher than those who didn't, when "controlling for a wide range of factors, including high school class rank and GPA."
Students who sent in scores were also estimated to be 55 percent less likely to have a first-semester GPA less than 2.0 than students who didn't submit test scores.
While U.T. Austin is just one school, the stark divide in the performance of students who did and didn't share their test scores with the college provides a striking example of just how much information colleges lose when they don't have an applicant's scores.
"Our goals are to attract the best and brightest students and to make sure every student is successful once they are here," President Jay Hartzell said in the press release. "Standardized testing is a valuable tool for deciding who is admitted and making sure those students are placed in majors that are the best fit. Also, with an abundance of high school GPAs surrounding 4.0…an SAT or ACT score is a proven differentiator that is in each student's and the University's best interest."
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I toad you so! I towed you so! Nyaa nyah nyah!
SAT/ACT allows a choice based on blind merit. Of course the woke DEI racists oppose it.
Well, that was predictable.
It is really frustrating to me that a significant portion of our population has made a determined effort to unlearn the lessons of the 70s. We all have to relive that crappy decade, except now the music sucks too.
It's the Seventies but without the free love, Rock & Roll, and largely innocuous drugs. The fashions are just as ugly though.
I was making fun of a Z in his too small aloha shirt, capris, and flat brimmed canvas fishing cap, telling him he'd never get laid. He replied that Z wymyn don't have sex with men anymore anyway.
But Ibram X Kendi said that the SATs and ACTs are racist? And to criticize him is racist.
What do we do?
Criticize him and ignore those who can't handle the truth.
Is Reason's leading CRT defender around today?
He'll know what to do.
You need to sacrifice a child's genitals or a box of Ho Hos to summon a creemjeff.
Punch him in the face. Really, really hard. (Yes, this violates the NAP, but we will make an exception.)
What do we do?
The Kendian solution should be obvious: Graduate everyone, regardless of performance.
You get a doctorate! And you get a doctorate! Everyone look under your seat! You all get a doctorate!
I always suspected Arch Manning wasn’t qualified academically. Glad I was right
That's a very long-winded article to describe adverse selection.
Which, by the way, is all that you can tell from this story.
"those who didn't scored just 1160"
LOL
Eleven goddamn sixty?!
Wonder which majors are most popular with that crowd. 😛
In 2019, the average SAT score was 1050. Any score above that would be above average and perfectly acceptable for many colleges. A score of 1350 would put you in the top 10% of test takers and help make your application competitive at more selective schools.
Source: https://satsuite.collegeboard.org/sat/scores/understanding-scores/what-is-a-good-score
UT Austin is a highly selective school. Top 5% if you expect to match your classmates academic skills.
Missed the jump from schools to majors, did you? That article says nothing about fields of study. A 1050 may be average overall but it's nowhere close to the average for hard science students.
Sorry if you thought I was being mean to people with shitty SAT scores. And yeah, I think 1160 is, in fact, shitty.
Well, you're right.
1160 is above average. 1240 is the suggested minimum for UT Austin (even though they don't require the test?) 1355 is the average for admitted students who provided a test score.
Too high for the education college.
Although think it is out of 1800 now.
Given that you can 'graduate' from high school with a respectable GPA and not be able to read or write, this hardly is surprising.
Does anyone here know the flunkout rate for minorities is in the more elite colleges and universities is?
Oh, wait.
That's racist.
I'll be available for the tar and feathering tomorrow at 1:00 PM.
I would've been available earlier, but I have a doctor's appointment in the morning.
Are you a flunkout? I believe so as you seem incapable of putting a blank line between paragraphs in your comments.
You clearly do not understand how writing technique works.
Biden, caught on a hot mic after SOTU, brags he told Netanyahu he was going to give the PM of Israel a "come to Jesus meeting".
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Q5y8Q43xC4
Just ponder that for a moment.
Well, Jesus was born a Jew...
Wow, it's almost as if tests designed to predict success in college, y'know, predict success in college.
Which is why the CRT dogmatists hate such tests.
New studies? They've known this for 50 years at least. Standardized test scores are a better indicator of academic success in college than high school grades, because grades vary wildly between different schools.
And it turns out (not surprisingly) that objective test scores are less discriminatory than more subjective admissions measures like recommendations and essays and enrichment/volunteer activities, since students from wealthier families can get better coaching and guidance on those things. Anyone with 20 bucks can buy an SAT practice book. (I did, and raised my score 100 points.)
Scoreless Kids
Gee, what do most of those kids have in common? Hmmm.
Put it on, Emma.
https://c.tenor.com/T3x7tyBXKVMAAAAd/clown-nose.gif
Tara Smith is a tenured professor of Philosophy at UT Austin. Gilbert Shelton was art director for the Daily Texan back in the day.
with an abundance of high school GPAs surrounding 4.0…an SAT or ACT score is a proven differentiator
Heh. Now, for some more differentiation, look into the folks who assign those high school grades.
That unfairly excludes the good students who are forced by geography to go to the lousy schools. This is why Ivy League schools invented the SAT in the first place, to give top students from the Midwest and top students who could not afford a prep school a chance for admission - back in the days when "Ivy League" meant high academic quality as well as a snotty rich over-privileged student body, and before it meant DEI and political correctness to the point of absurdity.
Just make 4 year college an extension of high school where everyone graduates and nobody needs to take any tests or has to pay tuition. That seems to be what the left wants.
Here's the thing: Suppose you're a high-school student looking to get into college.
If you know you're on the smart side of average (and you do), you take the test.
If you know you're not as smart as some, you skip the test.
Finding a difference between self-selected populations is evidence that students' self-assessment is (roughly) correct.
The rational university policy would be: you can skip the test, but if you skip the test, we only accept you after we've accepted everyone who took the test.
"Our goals are to attract the best and brightest students..."
Can't have THAT now can we.
CB
That did strike me as racist in current America.
"We want a student body that looks like America, except a little less of the folks who look like the racists who founded racist America. For equity."
Who was it that professed to believe that high school GPA is not wildly “biased and [doesn’t] accurately capture student ability”? They should be fired from any position requiring even minimal honesty and an IQ above 80.
Not only do different school system grades on different curves, but in my high school, each _teacher_ graded on a different curve. There was no racial bias because no blacks chose to live in the frozen north, but there was a lot of stereotyping: no one expected much of my “poor white trash” friend (his toys were more expensive than mine…), but my little sisters either got a GPA boost of at least 0.5 just because they followed behind me and everyone expected them to do well, or found themselves held to a much higher standard just because they followed behind me.
It is still the abortion mentality at work, let the good ones live and the rest die. If schools were doing their job we would not be passing sludge down the assembly line of schooling.
I taught for 5 years straight at a seminary !!! and the sub-sub-par poor guys with good hearts trying hard --- makes you loathe Biden with his anti-school rants
As Delaware’s senator, Biden helped Republicans pass George W. Bush’s 2001 No Child Left Behind Act (NCLB), which ushered in the punitive testing regime that so many teachers, parents, and students oppose today.
When Senator Kamala Harris at the July 2019 presidential debate called out Biden’s efforts to thwart desegregation, he refused to apologize
Threatening to “crack down” on states that do not allow biological males who identify as women to participate in female sports or enter women’s bathrooms.
Rescinding the 1776 Commission and infusing radical race-based ideology through the entire federal government.
Using the FBI to investigate parents’ involvement at local school board meetings as domestic terrorists.
THE MAN IS LAZY AND STUPID , bottom 10 of his law class, even Carter read books, I have never heard Biden speak of a book he has read.