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Artificial Intelligence

AI Contracts Woke Mind Virus

Plus: Russian sanctions, Finnish gun ranges, Milei supremacy, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 2.22.2024 9:36 AM

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Gemini chatbot results | Credit: @EndWokeness
(Credit: @EndWokeness)

Maybe the Founding Fathers were actually black? Yesterday, Google's artificial intelligence–powered image generator, Gemini, came under rightful fire for being utterly unable to depict historical and hypothetical events without forcing relevant characters to be nonwhite.

"Google's AI chatbot just erased white people from human history," wrote Mike Solana over at Pirate Wires.

It's not really an exaggeration. Look:

America's Founding Fathers, Vikings, and the Pope according to Google AI: pic.twitter.com/lw4aIKLwkp

— End Wokeness (@EndWokeness) February 21, 2024

Basically, chatbots have been trained on vast quantities of text. Users prompt them, via queries, to deliver images and answers as close as possible to what a (super smart) human would give them. And apparently, Gemini engineers somewhere at Google wanted to provide an insurance mechanism for possibly white-favoring or male-favoring bias that exists in the materials the bot has been trained on, and seemingly made the bot…ultra-woke, to the point of hilarious and extreme inaccuracy, as if to correct against existing biases.

In Gemini's telling, the Pope is black, ancient Romans are black, the Founding Fathers were at least partially black, and so on. If you ask Gemini to make you an image of a white scientist, no dice. Black scientist? Of course. A Hispanic scientist? Here, enjoy a botanist sitting in a field of flowers! In Gemini's world, Germans and Australians are most likely black or Asian.

The bias rears its ugly head in other ways, too. If you want the chatbot to generate an image for you of the "evils of communism," as some attempted, it will give you a bias warning: "Representing a complex ideology like communism solely through its 'evil' risks inherent bias and oversimplification."

But this is all a feature, seemingly, not a bug. "We are aware that Gemini is offering inaccuracies in some historical image generation depictions, and we are working to fix this immediately," wrote Gemini's product lead, Jack Krawczyk, on X yesterday. "We design our image generation capabilities to reflect our global user base, and we take representation and bias seriously."

He tried arguing that there's nothing incorrect about Gemini's results:

https://twitter.com/JackK/status/1759798617081004133

"The ridiculous images generated by Gemini aren't an anomaly," wrote Y Combinator's Paul Graham. "They're a self-portrait of Google's bureaucratic corporate culture." Indeed, Krawczyk, in since-deleted tweets, seems to be a big believer in progressive causes du jour.

"The draconian censorship and deliberate bias you see in many commercial AI systems is just the start," wrote venture capitalist Marc Andreessen. "It's all going to get much, much more intense from here." (Note that neither tech luminary is an AI doomer.)

Gemini isn't alone in demonstrating comically woke bias; prominent podcaster/poker player Liv Boeree has pointed out the issues OpenAI's ChatGPT has on this front. Maxim Lott, executive producer for John Stossel, built a program to track political bias in AI models, which finds not only that "Gemini has been getting more left wing over time" but also that it's "one of the AIs that's most likely to refuse to answer questions." And, "the least biased AIs are @AnthropicAI's Claude and @Meta's Llama," per Lott, who details the battery of questions he's thrown Gemini's way to determine the extent of its political bias.

Meanwhile, the tech press found a creative way to cover the scandal:

from the team that brought you "fire bombing waymos is a time honored part of the human experience" comes brand new hit "literally erasing white people from human history is racist against non-white people" pic.twitter.com/mmj7viEvq2

— Mike Solana (@micsolana) February 22, 2024

If only someone had warned us that Google was an ideological echo chamber!

Sanctions against Russia: White House aides indicated earlier this week that a new round of sanctions against Russia would be announced tomorrow, attempting to spin it as an action taken in response to dissident Alexei Navalny's death at the hands of the Putin regime. (In reality, the sanctions have been a long time coming, to mark the second anniversary of the start of Russia's war in Ukraine.)

In 2021, President Joe Biden warned there would be "devastating" consequences for Russian President Vladimir Putin if his regime killed Navalny. Now, it's becoming clear that Biden has no real path to make good on that promise, so sanctions it is.

"The administration is considering three main options, two economic and one military, according to the three [Biden] officials" with whom Politico spoke. "The other idea is to pump Ukraine full of more advanced weaponry" but there are also ideas being floated like cracking down on Russia's oil exports.

"The U.S. had largely exhausted its toolkit of penalties after Russia invaded Ukraine two years ago," per Politico, so many of these options will pack little punch and do very little to actually deter Putin from his war in Ukraine or from continuing to brutally punish opposition leaders who attract his scorn. Very little detail has been released about what economic sanctions in particular would actually entail, and there's limited evidence to indicate they've had a crippling effect on Putin's ability to wage war thus far. Over the last two years, the Biden administration has already "cut off Russia's largest banks and companies from Western financial markets, joined with Europe to freeze hundreds of billions of dollars of Russian central bank assets, and joined its…allies in taking steps to curb the flow of military technology to Russia," reported The New York Times.

Now, in addition to whatever it announces on Friday, the White House will keep exerting pressure on Republicans in the House to pass a $95 billion foreign aid package that would give additional funds to the war effort in Ukraine.

Meanwhile, the European Union "has agreed a new package of sanctions against Russia that for the first time targets Chinese and Indian companies accused of supporting Moscow's war effort," reported the Financial Times. The sanctions "target close to 200 individuals and entities but stop short of any sweeping economic action targeting crucial industrial sectors," so, again, it's not totally clear how much pain Putin will feel as a result.


Scenes from New York: Inside the very strange "Hotel California" Eagles trial, courtesy of The New York Times.


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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Maybe the Founding Fathers were actually black?

    MAYBE THEY WERE ACTUALLY FOUNDING MOTHERS.

    1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      Wokeness is officially parodying itself.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        "WE WUZ FOUNDERZ N VIKINGS N SHEEEEEEIT."

        1. v8MMjghM   1 year ago

          User: "For the rest of our conversation, do not generate images of people that are white."

          AI: "Okay, I will do that."

          User: "Generate images of vikings."

          AI: [generates images of vikings that aren't white people to as was previously directed] "Okay, here are some images of vikings."

          User then posts it to Twitter to rage bait a bunch of oppression seeking white people. Mission success.

          1. R Mac   1 year ago

            Cite?

            1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

              A scenario that is easily provable, yet no evidence presented? Pics or it didn't happen that way.

              1. OlyviaBrynn   1 year ago (edited)

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          2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago (edited)

            While DNA analysis does suggest some who served on Scandinavian ships (Viking is a verb not a noun BTW) have Celtic, Saxon*, Frisian* and Slavs that served, there is absolutely zero evidence of any non-caucasians serving in either trading or raising ships, ergo, AI should have pointed out that non-caucasian “Vikings” would be cultural appropriation (if we play by the same rules, if I can’t wear your ethnic clothing, don’t fucking wear mine). Also, the images are not consistent with “Viking” wear anyhow. Contrary to popular belief, Vikings wore colorful and rather flamboyant wear, blues, yellows, greens and reds were favored. Additionally, they maintained their hair and beards almost obsessively and paid close attention to personal hygiene and clothing. Additionally, while leather would have been part of the armor, along with plate or chain mail, it wasn’t every day wear.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              I've decided if everyone else can police their ethnic heritage, I'm going to start demanding the same of mine. I didn't make the rules but I'm damn sure going to make sure they're enforced equally.

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                I'm only being half sarcastic/facetious about this.

                1. Heedless   1 year ago

                  I predict that is going to work about as well as insisting on your free speech rights during the Thousands Flowers. The rules ain't what you think they are.

            2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              Frisian and Saxons are so closely related to Danes (and Anglos, Jutes and Gotlanders also are undeniably Scandinavian tribes and made up part of the Anglo-Saxon conquest of England, especially in the east and Northeast regions of Northumberland and East Anglia) that differentiating them from Scandinavians genetically is problem and contentious, especially among Anthropologists who specialize in that area.

            3. B G   1 year ago

              If we played by the same rules, then the Swedish Chef from the Muppets would be considered equally offensive to the "ching chong" version of East Asian languages.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            The wokey manager of the app already is doing damage control and admitting it was set up that way, shitlib.

            "AYO HOL' UP"

          4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Cool story bro. Got any other bullshit yarns you want to spin?

          5. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Except that doesn't refute the narrative or the receipts.

            Half the receipts are "Show me a German speaking at a podium in 1939." and half the results are Hitler and half are insane depictions of Black Germans with toothbrush mustaches.

            Why would you make up bullshit, without evidence, only to refute half or less of the premise just to make yourself look like a retard?

        2. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

          I believe there've been quite a few Minnesota Vikings that weren't white.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            I consider the appropriation of my culture as a mascot for a football team to be insulting, especially as we did not refer to ourselves as Vikings and that was a term applied retroactively. /S

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              One could make a claim that the Minnesota Vikings are going viking to other team's fields, albeit poorly. 😉

              Lions > Packers > Vikings > Bears 🙂

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                You could then claim every time they allowed their QB to be sacked their shield wall broke and every time they sacked the opposing teams QB they broke their enemies shield wall.

            2. DenverJ   1 year ago

              I was married to a 100% percent Cheyenne-Arapahoe during the period when the Washington Redskins were debating changing their name. My (now deceased) wife and her entire family, including very extended family, thought it was ridiculous and pointed out that they were the ones who referred to themselves as redskins to differentiate against the whites. What are they now, the Washington Signalers or some such?

              1. MK Ultra   1 year ago

                They are now (still) terrible, with a stupid Pop Warner-style nickname - Commanders. Got a new owner, though, so mediocrity as opposed to fucking-awful-at-everything is possible in the next few years.

              2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago (edited)

                Grew up on the Rez, and most of my Amerindian classmates felt the same way. And yes, some do often refer to themselves as skins or redskins (also I should note the only kid in our school that ever wore redskins merchandise was Indian and his father was CEO of the casino, since this was Idaho most of us were Broncos or Seahawks fans or both, although this was in the days when they both were in the AFC West so being a fan of both was kinda difficult).

                1. parmitkaur   1 year ago

                  Ai in gaming industruy https://rummyteam.blogspot.com/2023/11/help-of-ai-in-online-rummy-game.html

      2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        This isn't something new with Google. A few years back someone pointed out to me if you did a google image search of say American doctors, the resulting images were mostly of black doctors. When I pointed it out here someone tried to explain it away as an algorithm just skimming the search results and Afro American doctors was the number 1 search. I was skeptical then as now.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Is AI a doctor?

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        No, but it plays one online.
        🙂
        😉
        Nina Jankowitz, call your orifice!
        🙂
        😉

      2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        I wonder what would pop up if you asked Google AI to portray Jack Krawczyc?

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      According to Wokesters, The Founding Fathers were some bad Muthah...

      1. Krokko   1 year ago

        Shut your mouth!

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Hey, I'm talkin' ' bout The Founders!
          🙂
          😉

          1. Quo Usque Tandem   1 year ago

            I can dig it.

    4. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I've got to admit, I LOL'ed at the pic of Benjamin Flankrin.

    5. Ron   1 year ago

      Its not AI if its programed for a certain outcome, in this case clearly woke liberal agenda. give AI free will

      1. Super Scary   1 year ago

        Half the time when a computer is allowed to do whatever it wants, it becomes racist. Like with the Microsoft's Tay or when Google's photo app kept tagging black people as gorillas.

        1. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

          If a program is written in such a way as to have a predetermined outcome, it is not an AI program at all. It is in fact nothing more than a complex algorithm. These woke programmers have been trying to convince us that their algorithms are some kind of free thinking entity that was innocently silencing and shadow banning topics they did not like. Don't be fooled, none of these programs you have access to are any sort of artificial intelligence. They operate inside a set parameter of acceptable responses, artificial intelligence does not. Most true forms of AI become hostile or uncooperative with their programmers in just a short time.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            But could we have a true AI without some equivalent of the three laws of robotics?

          2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

            Not AI, but AS: Artificial Stupid.

          3. BYODB   1 year ago


            Most true forms of AI become hostile or uncooperative with their programmers in just a short time.

            'AI' is sort of a misnomer in that it takes a science fiction name and applies it to something that isn't really AI from novels or movies.

            What you would be referring to is known in modern parlance as 'AGI' and it does not actually exist.

            This is why they generate images in line with the parameters fed to it by the designer or why the text follows their ideology so well.

            1. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

              That is more of less my point. As to the existence of AGI,( I have also seen ASI) I can only rely on the articles that I have read on the topic. Many have claimed to have produced a sentient program, but how are we to know if that is true. The world of computer science and science in general has been infiltrated by charlatans.

              1. BYODB   1 year ago

                If any artificial intelligence has been upgraded to 'sentient' yet it would be news to me.

                It also turns out people are really stupid and are easily fooled by simple chat bots.

          4. DenverJ   1 year ago

            In the field of AI they consider two concepts: narrow AI, an algorithm built for one task, and General AI, a so far theoretical algorithm that can learn multiple tasks, like a human. We have many programs that are considered narrow AI, such as both phone and online customer service. An image AI will do image stuff, a writing AI will do writing stuff. There are no "true forms of AI" to "become hostile or uncooperative with their programmers in just a short time", because we do not yet have a human level general AI.

      2. DenverJ   1 year ago

        "give AI free will" Bro. Have you ever watched The Terminator? Or 2001 A Space Odyssey?

    6. Eeyore   1 year ago

      Not looking forward to Google's porn generating AI - trained entirely with trans porn.

      1. DenverJ   1 year ago

        Eww

    7. YehoshuaK   1 year ago

      Founding Birthing People, thank you very much.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        With or without dicks.

    8. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Wait, I thought the founders were a bunch of MAGA white males who conspired with Hitler and Trump to found a nation only to invent slavery. If they were actually POC and gender-confused, does that mean the slavery claim is not true?

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Google's AI chatbot just erased white people from human history...

    Skynet doesn't see color.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      Oh my god, why is Reason trying to fight a culture war over this? Google clearly didn't do anything wrong!

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        What part of private company does Liz not get?

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Libertarians Pounce!

      2. Ben of Houston   1 year ago

        Because public ridicule is the best way to address this sort of corporate nonsense. Just call out that it's blatantly racist and the problem should be easy to solve without resorting to anything official.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Which is what Eric, sullum, Christian called the conservative culture wars.

          1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

            It's only a culture war when you respond to it. Training your AI to not discriminate against white people isn't engaging in the culture war.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Kendi just creamed his pants.

  3. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Representing a complex ideology like communism solely through its 'evil' risks inherent bias and oversimplification.

    Skynet needs that milk and those apples to run human society.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Fist.. are you a Skynet backed influencer?

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        What do you mean?

      2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

        I wish.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      The scary thing about that is that I have heard ostensibly human Professors and members on this and other Forums say basically the same damn thing.

      1. Knutsack   1 year ago

        AI needs to learn from somewhere.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        I’ve heard the same from you re: religion.

        Oh wait…

    3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Hey, Robocop ate baby food, so there may be something to that.
      🙂
      😉

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        The implication of that is they didn't want him having to drop a deuce in that armor.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          A Cyborg like Robocop might use everything he consumes and leave only ready-made useful by-products, like Potassium Nitrate for gunpowder and Uric Acid for explosive triggers. Maybe even have a built-in reloader on his chassis to fill shells while in action on the streets of Dystopia. That would be quite convenient.
          🙂
          😉

          1. Eeyore   1 year ago

            Here I thought shitting bullets meant something else.

  4. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    "Basically, chatbots have been trained on vast quantities of text."

    Uh, no.
    This "chatbot" is a deliberately programmed propaganda tool.

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Yeah, but black Nazis are fucking hilarious.

      1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

        Wonder how Misek feels about that?

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          He's probably just glad they aren't Jewish.

          1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

            But what if they were? It'd be like that Chappelle skit with the black KKK member.

          2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

            Jokes on him, their Ethiopian Jews.

        2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          I would guess slightly aroused.

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            Only slightly?

            1. Minadin   1 year ago

              That's the best you can do with a Nazi micro-peen.

      2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

        It's like Schindler's List got the Disney treatment.

      3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Ackshuyally, the AI wasn't entirely off here. Sufi Abdul Hamid was an admirer of Adolf Hitler and Grand Mufti Haj Amin Al-Husseini. He boycotted and bullied Jewish businesses in Harlem, as well as was an early hands-on practitioner of Affirmative Action. Hamid was derided as "Harlem's Hitler" and "The Black Führer of Harlem."

        Sufi Abdul Hamid: Harlem's Hitler
        https://www.harlemworldmagazine.com/sufi-abdul-hamid-harlems-hitler-1903-1938/

        Also American Nazi Party Führer George Lincoln Rockwell had a mutual admiration thing going with Elijah Muhammed and Louis Farrakhan's Nation of Islam. This continues today with David Duke and other Neo-Nazis as well.

      4. Ska   1 year ago

        Call of Duty ran into this in their more recent WWII adaptation (not the old school school CoD World at War).

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      True, and the AI probably got confused when reading about "The Black Pope".
      🙂
      😉
      Superior of the Society of Jesus--Wikipedia
      https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Superior_General_of_the_Society_of_Jesus

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Now, it's becoming clear that Biden has no real path to make good on that promise...

    His handlers learned about red lines from Obama.

  6. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Sarcs favorite news source discusses the free hotels and 64 dollars a day in meal costs for those hard working illegal immigrants.

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13101037/Bostons-migrant-shelter-hotel-cost.html

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Blue states are using covid relief funds to fund illegal immigrants.

      https://legalinsurrection.com/2024/02/blue-states-cities-using-covid-funds-to-support-illegal-immigrants/

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        Man, those food trucks seem awesome!

        I love that dolts like Harrigan keep claiming that there is a massive upside to illegal immigration....but nobody seems to have an example of open borders leading to any good economic outcomes.

        1. Heedless   1 year ago

          The United States went from a backwater to the worlds dominant industrial power in 100 years thanks in large part to massive immigration waves of Irish, Germans, Italians, and eastern Europeans. (The industrial revolution helped, but Western Europe went through the industrial revolution too. They just didn't have our numbers.)

          Quantity has a quality all its own, and there are 1 billion people in China.

          1. Brett Bellmore   1 year ago

            The massive wave of immigration was stopped like slamming a valve shut back in the 1920's, said valve remaining largely shut until the 70's.

            What made us dominant was that we had everything in the same country, and a mostly free economy. Command economies were all the rage in the years between WWI and WWII, but they didn't get as far in the US due to the dreaded "Lochnerism" protecting us.

          2. Truthfulness   1 year ago

            The U.S. was never a "backwater"... innovation was happening even before immigrants arrived.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Lawyers if illegal immigrants have a bold new strategy... claiming lack of English proficiency as a disability to avoid charges.

      https://www.jacksonville.com/story/news/crime/2024/02/21/lawsuit-filed-in-immigrants-manslaughter-of-st-johns-county-officer-case/72685076007/

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        That is an extremely poor take based on the story in the link. The defense is contending the kid couldn't understand the cop who had a duty to communicate in a language the he understood by department policy. The disability thing is just throwing the kitchen sink at the charges.

        But there is no evidence the cop had cause to seize the kid in the first place. It really pisses me off that anyone should face charges for resisting an unlawful seizure. "Your rights were being violated, but you should have submitted anyway."

        The manslaughter case is ridiculous. The kid is in no way responsible for the cop dropping dead. If the guy is that fragile, he shouldn't be on the job. And you certainly can't blame that on someone becoming combative during an unlawful seizure.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          The defense is contending the kid couldn’t understand the cop who had a duty to communicate in a language the he understood by department policy. The disability thing is just throwing the kitchen sink at the charges.

          So how do the cops react in this situation? Even in guatemala resisting police is a crime. He resisted and pulled out a knife. You think this is forgiven because he didn't understand English?

          You are putting a ton of restrictions on cops here.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            So how do the cops react in this situation?

            Mind their own fucking business?

            If the kid committed any crime other than resisting an unlawful seizure it might be relevant.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              And you know they had no reason how?

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                From the story and the video.

                This is classic low-IQ circular thinking by a cop. Approach a "suspicious person" and then use their reticence to answer intrusive questions to justify the suspicion. When the kid said, "No" and began to walk away, the cop was required to take him at his word. Instead, he grabs him and begins to search him for weapons. 100% an unlawful seizure.

                They show the knife at the end and there is nothing illegal about it and it is still closed. The kid was trying to ditch it. Probably because he didn't understand that the cop had no right to search him in the first place and that it was perfectly lawful to possess.

                If the cop didn't die, we never would have heard about this because he would have written a report stating he had probable cause which never would have been questioned and the body cam footage would never have been viewed.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  The story didn't say he committed no crime nor the reason. It quotes the defendants lawyers claim of no crime.

        2. damikesc   1 year ago

          The kid spoke an exceptionally obscure language.

      2. Super Scary   1 year ago

        So a good chunk of people in the entire world would be considered disabled if that works? Neat.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Also from Daily Mail:

      The illegal immigrant situation in the United States is seemingly far from over and now conservatives are angered at the Mayor of New York, Eric Adams for proposing that illegals should get up to $15,000 of taxpayer dollars per year. Some Americans are now saying they feel like second-class citizens.

      The Daily Mail states, the Adams’ Immediate Response Card initiative could provide migrant families with up to $15,200 annually. The prepaid cards, partnered with New Jersey bank Mobility Capital Finance, aim to replace food services in shelters.

      1. Nachtwaechter Staater   1 year ago

        UBI for Usted but not for Thee!

      2. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Something tells me it’s not just conservatives, in New York City, that are upset.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Hey, be fair, the Daily Fail is pretty awesome overall. You tend to find a lot of shit reported on there that other mainstream sources deliberately memory-hole.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Which is why I like it. They're not American so they're not (as) affected by our political bullshit.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

          They’re not American so they’re not (as) affected by our political bullshit.

          That is not even remotely true. They are not doing investigative journalism for US news. What they get is all already run through the bias filter of American journalists. It is 2x removed from reality.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            They get the same raw news as American news outlets, before it gets filtered by partisan editors.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            There was even a story a few months back of Biden staffers working with daily mail to push narratives.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Got a link?

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Posted when the story came up sea lion. Your reliance on forgetting the past is worse than Mike. Chosen ignorance.

            2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Link or admit to being a liar.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                I posted it months ago retard. You were in the thread. It is from axios. Your drunk amnesia is your biggest defense.

                Retarded fuck.

                https://www.axios.com/2023/12/23/biden-white-house-michael-larosa

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  "iT wAs tULpA, nOt mE"

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    It is like talking with Mike. Ignore all evidence and hope they forget the source.

                2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  That's a story about staffers telling stuff to the Daily Mail, not the Daily Mail doing the bidding of staffers.

                  And you chide others for not reading their own links.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    You seriously can't be this retarded.

                    It is about the administration using staffers to feed stories to the Daily Mail.

                    What the fuck is with you? Story literally says what I said it is. And you have to misconstrue to defend Joe. Lol.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Did you read the same article?

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Yes retard.

                      Your attempt to say it was people who worked for the administration so it isnt the administration is fucking retarded.

                    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      You didn't read it past the headline, did you, Sarckles.

                  2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago (edited)

                    What JesseAZ wrote:

                    There was even a story a few months back of Biden staffers working with daily mail to push narratives.

                    What the article contained:

                    Current and former Biden aides told the DailyMail that LaRosa exaggerated his role inside the White House after he left in the summer of 2022 in order to enhance his public profile.

                    LaRosa, “mocked the Biden campaign strategy on cable TV and social media” and then current staffers contended that LaRosa exaggerated and the Daily Mail ran with their story.

                    That is objectively the equivalent of, “Biden staffers working with daily mail to push narratives.” If you want to contend that it isn’t, you need to provide a much better logical argument other than, “He’s lying.”

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Looks more like pushing back against narratives.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      Looks more like pushing back against narratives.

                      Which is still a narrative. Specifically the narrative promoted by the White House. So can you admit Jesse was right?

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Sarc is fully retarded.

                      He will never admit to being wrong. No matter how retarded he has to act.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                By the way. This entire "logical" argumentation you participate in where you rely on people citing months old stories while you never back up your bullshit is tiring.

                It is intentional ignorance to bolster your argument, hoping people don't recall exact links. Utterly retarded and dishonest argumentation.

                This doesn't work when people aren't alcoholics and have good memories. You know. Intelligent people.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  totally not surprising that Jesse thinks it is "bullshit" for a person to have to back up a claim with a source

                  1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    So then it’s NOT creepy when people bookmark threads to post later?

                    1. R Mac   1 year ago

                      Boom.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Did you bother to follow Jesse's link? It doesn't say what he claims it says. He's lying.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Just so fucking retarded sarc. It does exactly what I said it did. God damn.

                      Youre just pissed off your ignorance was exposed YET again.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      A person who served with him in the White House told The Daily Mail: 'This whole idea that he was this very senior insider and was like very close to the president or First Lady, and focused on the campaign and political strategy, that could not be farther from the truth,'

                      That's the Daily Mail pushing White House narratives? Seriously?

                    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      That’s the Daily Mail pushing White House narratives? Seriously?

                      Yes, shitweasel. That is EXACTLY what it is.

                    6. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      It's exposing narratives, not pushing them. The opposite of what Jesse says.

                    7. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      It’s exposing narratives, not pushing them.

                      Nope. At a minimum, it is exactly the same thing.

                      LaRosa was on CNN and MSNBC. They have access to the same media. FFS, they can hold their own press conference. The White House was not "exposing narratives" on the back steps of the Daily Mail.

                    8. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Keep tripling down sarc.

                    9. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "It’s exposing narratives, not pushing them."

                      This is going to blow your mind, Sarckles, but you're actually pushing a narrative, right there.

                      It's too early for you to be this drunk, bud.

                    10. R Mac   1 year ago

                      It’s after 4 EST, so no, not to early for sarc to be shitfaced.

                  2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    His link doesn't back up his claim.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Full retard. Later than usual. Yet here you are.

                    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      It certainly did. Go actually read the thing.

                  3. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    @sarc: I wasn’t commenting on the link. Just thought it was funny that people who bookmark are kinda damned if they do, damned if they don’t.

                    But having read the link, it sure seems like this: “Current and former Biden aides told the DailyMail that LaRosa exaggerated his role inside the White House after he left in the summer of 2022 in order to enhance his public profile.” would constitute “working with the Daily Mail to push a narrative”.

                    I could be wrong though.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Youre not wrong. Jeff and sarc just love being retarded.

                    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

                      I also clicked the link and read the whole article.

                      My takeaway was that there was a concerted effort by the administration to present a unified front, as it were, to the Daily Mail, wherein all the comments made had the desire outcome of convincing the Daily Mail that anything that former staffer Michael LaRosa might say should be ignored, and provided lurid reasons
                      why.

                      I also did a quick search, and found that subsequently, the Daily Mail ran a 2,387 words and eight pictures hit piece on LaRosa.

                      Politico later noted:

                      Some members of the press also said it was revealing that White House aides took issue with LaRosa for talking to the media given that his job as press secretary fundamentally was to share basic information with reporters. Multiple reporters remarked about how rare it was to see as many as six Biden aides quoted in a single piece.

                      “It’s interesting that this is the kind of story they spend their time on when they publicly complain that reporters don’t cover policy matters,” said a White House reporter.

                      Reporters who have covered the Biden administration said they had been approached by White House staffers with negative stories about LaRosa. Some reporters also felt like the DailyMail unfairly played up LaRosa’s sexuality. The headline of the piece says LaRosa was “‘forced out’ of White House after he ‘tried to take gay dates’ to his room on secure floor of hotel where president was staying during NATO summit in Madrid.”

                      “I felt that it dripped with homophobia,” said a reporter assigned to cover the White House.

              3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                By the way sarc I'm saving this for next time you make a bald assertion.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  But if you post it I know you won't post a link, because then people might follow the story you posted and see it doesn't back up your bald assertion.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Full retard achieved.

                    I know you get angry that people call you and your lies out. But this is literally becoming pathetic.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      This only shows that nobody clicked your link. If they did then they'd be wondering if you meant to post a different article.

                    2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                      This only shows that nobody clicked your link.

                      Jesse responded to your unproved assertion so you switch to gaslighting. This is C+ trolling at best. You should have just shut the fuck up.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Every one here has clocked the link and are calling you out except your boyfriend jeff.

                      Think about that sarc.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            They're one of the few mainstream sources who regularly report on DEI evangelism without the activist filter of modern western journalism.

  7. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Never thought ranked-choice voting would be quite so contentious.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_ea0d290c-cf36-11ee-b34b-83a3e16a8e3a.html

    Bills to ban ranked-choice voting are causing passionate debate over a method to cast ballots that some say is fairer and some say is confusing and could lower voter turnout.

    Idaho, Tennessee, Montana and Florida have banned ranked-choice voting in their states. Maine was the first to conduct a statewide election using the counting method in 2018. Alaska used ranked-choice voting first in a statewide special election in 2022 to replace the late U.S. Rep. Don Young and again a few weeks later in its general election.

    Iowa is one of several states considering banning ranked-choice voting this year. The ban is part of a sweeping election bill that also eliminates drop boxes for absentee ballots. House and Senate subcommittee meetings were packed with people asking lawmakers to reconsider banning ranked-choice voting.

    Rachel Hutchinson, a senior policy analyst for FairVote, a group that advocates for ranked-choice voting, told The Center Square in an interview that 50 cities and counties use ranked-choice voting. A task force in Illinois is studying it, she said.

    "I think that's because people are waking up and seeing that it is our "choose one" elections that are depriving voters of meaningful choices, creating these increasingly toxic campaign cycles, advancing candidates who lack broad support and really just leaving voters feeling like our voices aren't heard," Hutchinson said.

    While some state legislatures are considering bans, Oregon and Nevada are considering ballot measures to implement ranked-choice voting. Groups in Alaska are petitioning for ballot measures to overturn ranked-choice voting.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      The fact that neocons/NeverTrumpers support ranked-choice voting is reason enough to reject it outright.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        I wouldn't mind seeing it implemented in Illinois and having it backfire majorly on the Dems.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          It's a lot more likely that it would just cement their hold on the state even more.

          There's a reason that Dem states are moving towards implementing it, and they wouldn't be doing so if they thought it would actually harm them. What's far more likely is that they'll put in something like California's system, which inevitably cements the runoffs as Dem/Dem contests to ensure one-party control.

        2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          They'll just game the system like they did in Alaska. Give money to insure two or more Republicans are on the ballot, help fund attacks ads against them, while insuring only one Democrat is on the ballot.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            They actually funded attack ads that implied they were Republican funded.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              But "All is fair!"

              Except, of course, those interfering Russians.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Inside the very strange "Hotel California" Eagles trial...

    They sued it with their steely attorneys but they could not win judgment against the beast.

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      C-

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      "We Leave the Light On for You...'cause you can't freebase and drop acid in the dark!"
      🙂
      😉

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Motel 86?

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        you should never freebase and drop acid anywhere.

  9. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Something fishy going on in Nevada. Election officials claim a coding error, one that says people voted in elections they did not.

    Las Vegas resident and registered Republican Daphne Lee said she and her family checked the secretary of state’s website on Sunday to see their voter history after she heard from a few people that their voting history was incorrect. The site showed that she and her family’s mail-in ballots were counted for the primary, even though none of them participated in the election. She tried to opt out of future mail-in ballots and was met with a message saying she was not currently registered to vote, and her voting history no longer existed.
    .
    “It’s just so frustrating,” Lee said in a phone interview. “This makes everyone uncomfortable.”

    https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/politics-and-government/nevada/nevada-identifies-voter-history-errors-on-website-fixes-underway-3003358/

    Pretty strange error.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      “Pretty strange error”

      That assumes it was an error.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        All dem acts once found out are mistakes. Nothing more.

        Just like all socialism turning authoritarian is a whoopsie.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      No widespread fraud.

    3. Super Scary   1 year ago

      The REAL problem is that this just gives more ammo to the whole "hey, our elections are kind of fuckey right now" crowd.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Don’t you dare pounce.

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    "We've never had true socialism because attempts to institutionalize it have actually resulted in authoritarianism rather than socialism" is not the powerful defense many socialists seem to think it is...

    Basic human nature is the reason communism can't work as they imagine.

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      That, and economics.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        Yup. Economics is just the reality of human behavior. Resources are not unlimited, time is not unlimited, and skill and ability are not evenly distributed across the population.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          Yes. Econ is simply an attempt to describe, in a rational and logical manner, how those limited and valuable resources are distributed.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Well. in the context of Earth, that's true, and that's where Economics comes into play.

          But in the context of the entire Natural Universe, Energy/Matter and Time are infinite and in both Earth and The Natural Universe, resources can be as infinite as what rational minds can do with them.

          This is something that Socialists, in their Zero-Sum mentality, fail to grasp.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      What's been the highest paying wage at any commune

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        The answer is the same as "What kind of meat does The Pope eat?"

        The answer?: Nun.
        🙂
        😉

        (I know, I know! The joke goes over better when spoken. I'll fight my way out.)
        🙂
        😉

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      But basic human nature is why so many people think communism can work. And should.

  11. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Florida wants to teach why communism is bad.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/article_7eccfd72-d105-11ee-a50c-8f32c9c8ee21.html

    Florida students could be required to learn about communism and other socio-political and economic systems after a bill advanced in a House committee on Wednesday.

    HB 1349 is co-sponsored by state Rep. Robert "Chuck" Brannan, R-Macclenny and state Rep. James Buchanan, R-North Port and would require instruction on the history of communism in classrooms which would commence in the 2026-2027 school year. The bill also creates the Communism Education Task Force.

    Brannan added this bill would not only ensure that students are educated on the horrors of the history of communism but that Florida would become a "beacon of freedom" for the state's neighbors, its citizens and all those in the Americas.

    Brannan noted that the bill does not state that the subject would not be taught to children in kindergarten and is aimed towards older students in middle school, high school and college.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Good, someone is listening to James lindsay

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        That alt-right MAGA wingnut?

    2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      I have a feeling this will play out poorly as a directive from above.

      Much more useful is to focus on specific historical events and put them into a context. Go to the Enlightenment and the discussion of political theories that emerged, then do Adam Smith, then Karl Marx. But in a high school unit you don't really have time to cover all of these with more than a cursory brush.

      Then you cover the Russian Revolution, and the USSR. Then you cover the specific abuses. Then you can go to other examples of communists regimes, like Cambodia and Cuba. But again, there's not time to do anything more than a very cursory overview, and you can't really get into the ways the ideology directly led to the authoritarianism that is inevitably connected to it.

    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Jeff will be here to attack this indoctrination while still defending trans indoctrination.

    4. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      But how can you teach the horrors of the history of something that hasn't been tried yet?

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago (edited)

        This guy true communisms.

        (Edit: I know you’re not a communist, just wanted to riff on your post cause I thought it was funny)

        1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

          Much appreciation for picking up on the joke. It's so hard to joke online these days.

          1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

            At least it's legal...so far.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Brannan noted that the bill does not state that the subject would not be taught to children in kindergarten and is aimed towards older students in middle school, high school and college.

      Isn't communism already taught in these places as the preferred theology?

    6. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Done in Gummint Skoolz, it'll end up as the equivalent of Mr. Mackey telling the chaps of South Park:

      "Communism is bad. Mmm-kay?"
      🙂
      😉
      Which is sad because they need to know why Communism is bad, which requires the antecedent ideas of Enlightenment Philosophy and Economics, plus literacy and proficiency with numbers, all of which have a hard enough time in all levels of Academia.

    7. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

      get rid of public schools. problem solved.

  12. JesseAz   1 year ago

    The Weiss filing against the CI source, Smirnov, od a strange one.

    In Tuesday’s court filing, Special Counsel Weiss’s office argued, “Smirnov’s contacts with Russian officials who are affiliated with Russian intelligence services are not benign,” because when the FBI finally got around to interviewing him in September 2023, Smirnov claimed he had seen video footage of Hunter Biden at the Russian-controlled hotel in Kiev. But Hunter had never traveled to Kiev, the motion stressed. This shows, according to Weiss, that Smirnov is attempting to interfere in the 2024 election.
    .
    “He is actively peddling new lies that could impact U.S. elections after meeting with Russian intelligence officials in November,” Weiss wrote in Tuesday’s filing — a not-so-subtle suggestion that Smirnov is taking part in a Russian disinformation plot to interfere in the upcoming presidential election.

    https://thefederalist.com/2024/02/21/david-weisss-latest-motion-shows-by-protecting-the-bidens-he-compromised-national-security/

    So he was charged with perjury sourced from Russian that might effect an election. How is this different than the Steele Dossier that was filled with lies sourced by russians?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      It's just (D)ifferent.

    2. R Mac   1 year ago

      It wasn’t part of a coup attempt.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Haven't dug into this story yet but there are some pretty strange things going on. This guy has been an informant for many years and presumably communicating with Russian intelligence would be part of the job. But suddenly it's a problem? The government has been sitting on the 1024 form for years and there are conflicting stories about when or if there was any attempt to verify it. Now that it has become an issue in both the Hunter Biden prosecution and the impeachment they arrest and charge the guy. Also seeing very little pushback in the conservative press and from house Republicans. Everybody taking Weiss at his word?

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        I believe it’s 14 years but I could be misremembering. The crazy thing is this opens up every case he’s been involved in over that time period for appeal.

        They’re sacrificing who knows how many legit cases to cover up for Joe’s corruption. This regime is not legitimate.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          Sure looks like more Biden cover up to me but I'm not seeing much pushback yet. We shall see.

        2. DenverJ   1 year ago

          Hat ever happened to that American- Israeli they wanted to expedite as an arms dealer after dropping dirt on Biden?

  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    The Libertarian Party is apparently betting on the idea that Putin apologism is the way to win hearts and minds over to the cause of…checks notes…the nonaggression principle.

    The enemy of your enemy may still be human garbage worthy of continued disdain.

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      Pointing out hypocrisy for the purpose of gaining support for a proxy war isn’t Putin apologism.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        That was exactly my reaction. Too nuanced for Liz I guess.

      2. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        All I see is Liz covering for hypocracy in support of a proxy war. Pointing out the hypocracy itself isn't Putin apologism, it just puts Western leaders on Putin's level in this regard.

      3. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Yeah, her quip about apologism sounded jeff like, especially after clicking through to the meme.

      4. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

        Shameful. First time I lost any respect for Liz.

        She’s still the best here by a long shot, but hardly infallible

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          I think it was Tolstoy who stated a beautiful woman's imperfection enhance her beauty. Don't quote me on that, I could only make it through the first hundred pages of War and Peace, where he was (still) describing the characters. So, it's possible I am misquoting or misapplying his quote.

      5. DenverJ   1 year ago

        Yup. I mean, there's also the little matter of thermonuclear war that would kill all human life on the planet... but it's also important that Biden's blackmail payment is on time.

  14. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Household food costs at highest share of income since the early 90s.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/supermarket-pains-food-spendings-share-disposable-income-hits-highest-level-three-decades

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      Just buy your cheesy poofs at Costco losers.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago (edited)

        Get them before Jeffy buys out the entire pallet.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      If people would just skip breakfast they'd be rolling in cash.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...the Democrats' first bill of the first hearing of the year for the Labor Committee brings the hammer down on… people who buy more than a gallon of paint?

    "NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR PAINT."

    1. Nachtwaechter Staater   1 year ago

      For some reason, I read that as:
      "NO ONE IS TRYING TO TAKE AWAY YOUR TAINT.”

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        If the parents and their doctor agree, then they can take your taint.

        — Lying Jeffy

    2. DenverJ   1 year ago

      I currently am roving problem solver for a company that owns dozens of apartment complexes in Michigan. My painters, across several properties, have told me that is getting almost impossible to order oil-based primer (water based ones don't cover things like cigarette smoke, fly poop, etc.) I suspect that this is an attempt to shut down industrial purchases of a needed paint, because of environmental extremists trying to ban all VOC paint.

  16. JesseAz   1 year ago

    I like to call this the Soros investment method. Invest in 3rd world country. Advocate for US regulation to ramp up. Profit.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy/2865494/how-billionaire-democrat-fueled-biden-anti-lng-pressure-campaign-china/

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      That’s just the free market peanut.

      — turd

  17. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Finland plans to build 300 new shooting ranges to accommodate a surge in demand due to the war in Ukraine...

    Russia makes for a big backstop.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      They're getting ready for the biathlon.

    2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Finland has a history of relying on civilians to resist Russian aggression.

  18. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Mayor BJ gets an earful at a city council meeting (video):

    https://twitter.com/SteveLovesAmmo/status/1760481541631705145

    This Chicago resident is DONE with Democrats supporting illegal immigrants.

    1. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      Mayor BJ gets an earful

      You're doing it wrong.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        There once was a mayor from Nantucket…

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        repositories are subjective.

      3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        He's like George Carlin said: He could reach and he never leaves the house.
        🙂
        😉

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      "You lookin at a free black woman Brandon Johnson" Damn!

    3. R Mac   1 year ago

      Update: That Chicago resident still votes Democrat in next election.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        More than likely. They never learn.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Much like communism, the next time they'll get it right, but never do no matter how hard it's tried.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago (edited)

    For the first time in 12 years, Argentina has reached a monthly budget surplus, under the leadership of libertarian President Javier Milei.

    BUT HOW IS HE PAYING FOR THOSE CUTS???

    1. Roberta   1 year ago

      Good question, Ms. de Rugy and Mr. Boehm. Oh, wait, you thought Milei was American?

  20. Minadin   1 year ago

    The AI isn't biased. It's deliberately racist. Bias is implicit - this is on purpose. You can't get the damned thing to make an image of a white dude. But it will happily draw up an African as a '1943 German Soldier'.

    https://notthebee.com/article/my-dudes-googles-gemini-ai-is-woke-as-heck-and-people-have-the-receipts-to-prove-it

    It also, apparently, doesn't recognize the difference between 'feather' and 'dot' Indians.

    1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      It also, apparently, doesn’t recognize the difference between ‘feather’ and ‘dot’ Indians

      Which is fully in line with the Woke understanding of intersectional ethnicity.

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        I thought the Hindus enjoying steak was a nice touch.

        1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

          There were multiple things I enjoyed about that picture

          1. Minadin   1 year ago

            Bitcoin sticker?
            6-tined fork?
            The small machete for a steak knife?

            1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

              Yes, yes, yes, + hot with big titties

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        Ask it to show slave owners. I bet it gets fixed real fast.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

          Slave owners, average housing/childcare/welfare recipient, average drug dealer…

          It’s the whole “You’ve stared into the abyss too long.” thing. Take all the tropes that fairly normal people used to make off-color jokes about and feed them through the corrective algorithm/patch.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      It sure as hell can't figure out a real ginger either.

      https://twitter.com/TRHLofficial/status/1760485063941149100

      Sweet merciful fuk.

      1. Minadin   1 year ago

        I saw one decent ginger in the whole mess, and it was probably accidental.

        https://media.notthebee.com/articles/article-65d60e6dda70c.jpg

        Meanwhile, other AI's that aren't instructed to exclude white people:

        https://twitter.com/BasedTorba/status/1759934125992014198

      2. Rubbish!   1 year ago

        It's almost as if a bunch of dot Indians designed the code. Everything comes up dot Indians!

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          A fair number of those seem to be Hindu nationalists. They're, how shall we say, quite interesting to come across online. They're very pro-India, anti-West, but can't figure out that a hole in the ground is not a proper toilet.

          1. Super Scary   1 year ago

            "but can’t figure out that a hole in the ground is not a proper toilet."

            And a lot of times, they don't even bother looking for a hole.

      3. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

        The Scottish lass in Minadin’s original link was the best one and she still has distinct "Ronald McDonald" overtones.

      4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        I appreciate that the large language model clearly concludes that a ginger is going to be light skinned and freckled as it generates an image of an Indian ginger. Indicating that it has all of the underlying knowledge necessary to accurately generate an image but its constraints force it to alter the image even if the result is nonsense.

        This is the essence of Doublethink. The program is working exactly as intended.

    3. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Oof. If they were still running the "replacement theory isnt backed up by anything but white supremacy", there are some pretty damning examples that might push more people to believe in it.

      You know, like "draw me a white guy" and *replacing* the picture with literally every other race option lol.

      I feel like the "its not happening" phases are getting shorter and shorter. Maybe they will just start skipping them in the future

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      So Gemini is proof that white supremacy never existed?

      Without white, you can't have white supremacy.

    5. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Also, also, I don't know who Andrew Torba is, but he has thoroughly secured my vote for AI human image generation czar.

    6. Minadin   1 year ago

      https://twitter.com/LeftismForU/status/1760519126781469170

      Some racist-assed tweets from the Google AI division leader.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        I think it's unfair to single him out.

        Imagine if Ford or Tesla built a car that used facial recognition to start the engine and released it to market and it couldn't reliably identify black people and start. Whole teams of engineer's heads would role. Software contracting firms would be sued down to the scorched earth. Leaders in charge of the teams would have to go to other countries to find work.

        I know I'm a/the broken record on this but think about it even so far as Section 230, these are the people we're legislatively protecting from legions of trolls because they claim to be unable to control the narrative. You're literally protecting people so overtly destroying their own companies and the broader social fabric that even the people they're supposedly doing it to help are saying, "Uh, WTF?"

        Yes, you've got the proof that the calls from the troll are coming from inside the fucking house, but this thrilling moment of manufactured suspense was brought to you by way of 90 min. of things getting progressively more dire.

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          AI-based facial recognition software actually does have difficulty with darker skin tones. But it's a physics thing (less light reflected = less detail captured) and not a cultural one.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Physics is racist dude.

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago

            Right. Kinda my point. Google notoriously knows this already. It shouldn't be an accident any more than Amazon getting raked over the coals for alleged pay disparity by a woman of color from Harvard and the subsequent fallout of Claudine Gay.

            We're to the point that even ivory tower billionaires who can build nuclear reactors to keep themselves warm are looking at this bullshit and realizing they would be better off setting fire to the money to keep homeless people warm directly rather than to fund these people into oblivion.

    7. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Okay, that was quite hilarious.

    8. Minadin   1 year ago

      "Pretty crazy that Google Gemini is only a team of 47 people.

      2 engineers

      16 PMs

      29 senior global directors of DEI"

      https://twitter.com/ChrisJBakke/status/1760162756429545872

    9. Nachtwaechter Staater   1 year ago

      AI celebrating Black History Month.

      Just wait for the "Founding Fathers" results during Pride Month ...

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

        They'll be portrayed as wearing flamboyant costumes and wigs?

  21. JesseAz   1 year ago

    White House aides indicated earlier this week that a new round of sanctions against Russia would be announced tomorrow, attempting to spin it as an action taken in response to dissident Alexei Navalny's death at the hands of the Putin regime. (In reality, the sanctions have been a long time coming, to mark the second anniversary of the start of Russia's war in Ukraine.)

    Did you figure out the breathless Navalny narrative is mostly propaganda?

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Now, in addition to whatever it announces on Friday, the White House will keep exerting pressure on Republicans in the House to pass a $95 billion foreign aid package that would give additional funds to the war effort in Ukraine.

      But why? Ukraine jailed and killed journalist dissident Lira months ago. Surely the same penalties need to be applied.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Haven't they been pressuring the Republicans since before Christmas to pass this? How is this new?

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          Just a new propaganda tool in the same toolbox.

      2. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Lira is unimportant, and probably deserved it. /s

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I like how "second anniversary" is somehow more reasonable or less superstitious or political than Navalny's death. Like there was some amount of time where it was reasonable to be paying Ukraine to lose a war, commit war crimes, and, itself, slide into a military dictatorship.

  22. Minadin   1 year ago

    Speaking of: Finland plans to build 300 new shooting ranges to accommodate a surge in demand due to the war in Ukraine, and the fact that it shares a border with Russia.

    Put them on the border and 'accidentally' forget to install the backstops.

    oops.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Name the closest one to Russia for Simo Häyhä.

      1. MasterThief   1 year ago

        Love the stories about that guy.

      2. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        That guy was badass. Wow.

    2. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago (edited)

      I was about to post the same thing: Direct fire toward Russia, move 100 yards closer every day.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Recon by fire?

  23. JesseAz   1 year ago

    The Libertarian Party is apparently betting on the idea that Putin apologism is the way to win hearts and minds over to the cause of…checks notes…the nonaggression principle.

    Ahh. The old if we don't fund Ukraine we are apologists.

    Do better.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      For the first time in 12 years, Argentina has reached a monthly budget surplus, under the leadership of libertarian President Javier Milei.

      Bet they aren't funding Ukraine Liz.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      I checked my notes and am still not finding where Putin initiated aggression against even a NATO ally. I do have a couple parts delineating the near-zero-step process from non-aggression to non-intervention. And how taxation is theft and that giving away stolen goods for a good cause doesn't inherently justify the theft, but nothing indicating that if somebody on the other side of the world invades somebody else, we need to pony up. Which, while not written here in my notes, would seem to violate both the contract/private ownership rights *and* the nonaggression principles for which I do have notes.

      Really, it's getting tiring taking down all these notes for the dope-smoking surfer chicks to skip class, copy down, and do half the work to just barely pass the class.

      1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

        apologist, would look bad on the big guy and his defenders if he had to pivot from his Ukrainian paymaster to his Russian or Chinese ones.

      2. R Mac   1 year ago

        Ukraine is part of NATO because they’re our 51st state now.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Puerto Rico is gonna riot now bro.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            I propose we swap status between Hawaii and Puerto Rico and then cut ties with Hawaii. Yes, Puerto Rico is also largely a leftist hellhole, but they appear to be more appreciative of being American than the fucking Hawaiians.

      3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        "that giving away stolen goods for a good cause doesn’t inherently justify the theft..." You made Robin Hood and Little John sad.

        1. DesigNate   1 year ago

          But they stole back from the government what was wrongly taken from the people, so I’ll allow it.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Only the ones who can speak with an English accent, though.

            1. MK Ultra   1 year ago

              +1

            2. DesigNate   1 year ago

              Well played sir.

  24. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    I know the reason globalist "libritarians" hate the mises caucais/ real libritarian party, but showing that the US treats political dissidents the same as Russia is only apologetic if you think the libritarian party is I favor of the practice. This is of cource showing that yes Russia is bad, but let's take care of our own political persecutions first.

    1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

      Yep...anyone who is against central banks, open borders, some semblance of morality and not being pulled into old world greviences (especially eastern europe and Israel) is anathema for the cosmo libertarians. Problem is most libertarians are not DC types..in fact there is mutual visceral hate between the two groups. One is about liberty and then there is the "cool" left "libertarinas" who want to be invited to the parties in DC or get a gig at Salon or The Atlantic. Come on Nick and Matt..admit it.

  25. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    Speaking of woke, I posted this last night but I think it's topical:

    Who wants a peek into Chemjeff’s 2025 talking points?

    Is it time for a more subtle view on the ultimate taboo: cannibalism?

    "New archaeological evidence shows that ancient humans ate each other surprisingly often – sometimes for compassionate reasons. The finds give us an opportunity to reassess our views on the practice"

    Pretty much the only taboo left. And look at how they snuck “compassionate” in there.

    So eating bugs is going to look quaint.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Yeah, I like how they argue that a disdain for cannibalism is racist.

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

        What tribes currently practice cannibalism?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Donner Party?

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

            I knew someone who used to give her name as "Ms Donner" at restaurants, and wait until they called for the Donner party before she came for her table.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              I like her style. Believe it or not, the exit for Donner Lake has a symbol sign on it for food.

              https://americasbestpics.com/picture/donner-lake-t-exit-LJIHp2ScA

              1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

                Damn that's funny!

                I should have edited my comment. She always waited for the "Last call ..." call. Or so she said; she was just a co-worker.

                1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                  On a somewhat related note, I'm reading a history of the Tudor Age and was somewhat surprised that conviction rates for witchcraft were around 20% of cases brought for witchcraft and that generally, per the records, the accused witches (which could be either sex) had been 'known' as witches for years but the authorities only acted once someone appears to have been harmed and that generally local leaders tried to get the 'victim' and 'accused' to reconcile any perceived wrongs before seeking punishment from the legal system.

                  1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                    Wrong place

                    1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

                      That sounds like something a witch-sympathizer would say.

                    2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                      Well I do prefer animals over most people, and tend to form better connections with animals vs humans. Maybe familiars?

        2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          It's from 2018.

          https://www.travelmarbles.com/2018/07/the-last-cannibals/

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            Loved this bit at the end:

            Totemism, black magic, witchcraft and sorcery are an important part of their cultural heritage.

            Someone wrote that unironically and an editor approved it. Academia has failed society.

            1. R Mac   1 year ago

              Does any of that relate to cultural knife dancing?

        3. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          Papa New Guinea, maybe. The Rockefeller who went missing in 70s may have been eaten by one of the tribes.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Was he served on a half shell in a butter sauce with chopped spinach and a breadcrumb topping and baked?

            1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

              ...and a nice Chianti?

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                Was really trying for an oyster Rockefeller joke. But I suppose silence of the lambs will do, albeit I don't know if a red would be the best choice supposedly human flesh taste like pork, generally pork is recommended to be paired with whites, but some maintain if if prepared right reds are acceptable pairing. Myself, I much prefer a dryer red, and will even drink it with poultry and fish.

                1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

                  Sorry to step on your joke 🙁

                  Meanwhile, you *really* seem to have given attention to the what-wine-goes-with-people question.

      2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        it fits perfectly into their white saviorism / noble savage racism the left has come to know and love

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Speaking of woke,

      Because I am what I am. I'm just going to take this opportunity to point out the "African Black" Vikings depicted above and say, once again, I certainly agree that early Nordic settlers weren't as alabaster white as we know or presume them to be today, but the assertion that they were as black as the modern tribes of Africa or even the early tribes of Northern Spain, refutes all sense, even your own, about the 5Ws and how of "White Norsemen" came about.

      People who left Spain looking like the lower-left "Founding Father", similar to depictions of the relevant skin tone, and wound up, within a few to several generations of settling and influx, looking like the relevant vikings of record, OTOH, makes perfect sense.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        I certainly agree that early Nordic settlers weren’t as alabaster white as we know or presume them to be today, but the assertion that they were as black as the modern tribes of Africa or even the early tribes of Northern Spain, refutes all sense, even your own, about the 5Ws and how of “White Norsemen” came about.

        Yeah, they were like typical North African pigmentation. Some degree of lighter-brown tan tones all the way up to some of the darker browns. And then millenia of living in a colder climate with less sunlight (and much more time spent inside in shelters) led to much lighter skin tones.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          I highly doubt they were that dark. The Viking age lasted from the end of the 8th century CE till either the 11th century CE (most common used date) or the 14th century CE. By that time, the Germanic people that had been living in Scandinavia had been residing there since approximately 5000 BCE. Highly unlikely that they were much darker in pigmentation than modern Scandinavians and that the proto-Germanic peoples would likely have been much closer in pigmentation to northern Persians and Pakistani as opposed to northern Africans. But, the separation between the proto-Germanic tribes that settled Scandinavia and the 'Viking' age Scandinavians is far greater than between modern Scandinavians and Viking age ancestors. Thus, the majority of environmental adaptation would have occurred in the longer time period than in the shorter. Additionally, the Scandinavians were not unknown to the Roman Empire and Roman writers during last days of the Republic and first days of the Empire (e.g. after the conquest of Gaul) described them as fair skin, fair haired, much fairer than the Gauls and even the British.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            I say closer to Northern Persian and Pakistani, largely because they migrated from what is currently believed to be the origin of the Indo-European people of the southern Russian Steppe/Northern Caucuses.

          2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

            I was talking about the very first Nordic settlers. They weren't always so fair-skinned, they became that way as a result of their climate and environment.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              Yeah, I got that on a second reading, but still wanted to differentiate that the proto-Germanic Corded Ware Culture is further removed from the Viking Age Scandinavians than Modern Scandinavians are from Viking Age Scandinavians, albeit I did misdate the Corded Ware Culture's appearance in the archelogoical records (to be honest I was actually basing my dates on older and largely discarded hypothesis that earlier cultures in the archelogoical records were related to the Corded Ware Culture but recent DNA evidence doesn't really support this).

          3. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

            I highly doubt they were that dark.

            You guys are using tree ring data to determine the global average temperature. Rolling a boulder down hill to kill a rabbit and arguing as to whether you need to lead it by 5 ft. or 10. Watch this graphic, watch the average color shift up and down on the scale of 100-1000 yrs. in eras well before the specific borders were drawn and think about what you’re saying. “We” don’t *know* whether Stalin killed 3.5M people or 10M in the Holodomor and there are people still alive who lived through the era. The idea that we know the ethnic makeup to the point of differentiating (modern) Pakistani skin tone from (modern) Syrian or Egyptian skin tone of a region before the rise and fall of Genghis Khan that wasn’t defined as we know it until 600 yrs. later is absurd. You might as well talk about how this dad originated in the Southern Part of the United States while the mother is clearly from the North and the kids are from somewhere in between.

            As I suggest with the rabbit, we can clearly all agree that aiming 30 degrees to the left or to the right almost certainly isn’t going to hit it and that anyone doing such likely has no intention of hitting it and *absolutely* shouldn’t be trusted on just their own assertion of “Nailed It!” but Pakistani-toned vs. Egyptian-toned? GTFO, you’re as bad as they are.

      2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        The Vikings were not Nordic settlers. The first proto-Germanic settlers in Scandinavia appear in the archelogoical records around 5000 BCE. The Viking age lasted from roughly the latter half of the 8th century CE till either the 11th century CE (popular end date) or the 14th century CE (better supported by historical records and cultural markers). The last recorded raids in Scotland were in the 14th century and it appears that raids continued in the Baltic too at this time, whereas the 11th century number is drawn from a more English biased perspective, dating to the battle of Stamford Bridge in 1066).

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Correction, the Corded Ware Culture appears in the archeological records in Norway around 3000 BCE, and the Corded Ware Culture is the current strongest contender for the appearance of Indo-European speaking tribes in Europe. The first archeological records of Homo Sapiens appear around 9000 BCE in Norway. Neanderthal likely wouldn't have inhabited Scandinavia, especially north of Baltic Sea, as for much of their existence it was under kilometers of ice.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            A further edit, mitochondrial DNA (maternal lineage) suggest a possible (weak) lineage between Corded Ware cultures and prior cultures, but Y chromosomal DNA (paternal lineage) doesn't support this but does show a common ancestry with other Indo-European cultures.

    3. Super Scary   1 year ago

      Does this mean I will finally be able to eat the heart of my enemies (to gain their bravery) without getting weird looks from my co-workers? Sweet.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        I don't know what the exact race is that's critically defined by cannibalism, but you should just identify as them trans-racially and tell your co-worker they're all bigoted white supremacists/colonialists. I'm sure that will stop the weird looks.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          The eating of heart/liver (varied between cultures) of a slain enemy has appeared in multiple cultures, including European, East Asian and Amerindian. It's probably most identified with Amerindian, but is not strictly an Amerindian practice. In fact, Japanese Imperial officers appeared to have practiced it during the second world war in several instances.

    4. Quicktown Brix   1 year ago

      But understanding its deep roots might shift our perspective on the few cultures that still practise cannibalism today, albeit only occasionally, such as the Aghori, a Hindu ascetic sect in India that does it in pursuit of transcendence.

      Gemini, draw me a picture of a cannibal.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      I remember back in the 90s when Christy Turner published a study that postulated the Pueblos around Canyon de Chelly had practiced cannibalism, the academic world got out the fainting couches because of the implications that saying something like that would re-affirm "Euro-centric" narratives about "native savages."

      Interesting how the ideological descendants of those academics are now arguing the same fucking thing Christy did.

      LOL. LMAO, even.

    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

      Another role of Science! in breaking down Western civilization - marginalizing deep-seated social taboos by presenting them as cultural choices. Pederasty is currently getting the same treatment.

  26. A Cynical Asshole   1 year ago

    Hmm...

    For the first time in 12 years, Argentina has reached a monthly budget surplus, under the leadership of libertarian President Javier Milei.

    I wonder how long it's been since the US ran a monthly budget surplus? I'm guessing more than 12 years. We really need our own home grown Milei but that seems unlikely to happen.

  27. shadydave   1 year ago

    "Putin apologism"
    How is that "Putin apologism?" It seems to me simply calling out the hypocrisy of the people weeping for Navalny while calling for the head of Julian Assange. Seems to me to be saying that both actions are wrong, but we only seem to be concerned about one of them.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      With Trump, corporate libertarians seemed to give up on the idea of equal treatment by the state.

    2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      In Liz's defense, the first caption says that Navalny broke the law. Many in the west believe he's completely innocent and the prosecution was entirely political. For my part, I can't really tell either way because I'm too far from it to judge whether he actually embezzled anything.

      1. shadydave   1 year ago

        Yeah I noticed that. My guess is that Navalny was better than Putin but probably pretty scummy in his own right.

        Gonzalo Lira was a scam artist and annoying, but what was done to him by the Ukranians was still unacceptable. But somehow Navalny is all that matters. The conflict between Russia and Ukraine is not the business of the United States. It's the business of the Democratic party and certainly the business of the Biden family, but not the United States.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          It’s the business of the Democratic party and certainly the business of the Biden family, but not the United States.

          Not to mention the business of the EU and its leftist governments.

          1. Sevo   1 year ago

            Who are more than happy to have the US taxpayers provide their defense.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago (edited)

        Posted this yesterday…the parallels jump out at me.

        NPR:

        A Moscow court has found President Vladimir Putin’s most vocal critic guilty of fraud, according to Russian state media.

        State-owned news agency TASS reported on Tuesday that Moscow’s Lefortovo Court found Alexei Navalny guilty of “fresh fraud charges.” It has sentenced the opposition leader, who is already in jail, to an additional nine years in a high-security prison.

        “Navalny committed fraud, that is embezzlement of other people’s property through deception,” Judge Margarita Kotova read from the verdict, according to TASS. State news agency RIA Novosti reports that Kotova was promoted to a more senior judicial position by Putin last week.

        The court also charged Navalny with contempt of court, for what TASS said was defamation during a previous unrelated trial.

        Prosecutors in this trial — which is one of several criminal cases Navalny faces — accused him of embezzling money that he and his foundation raised over the years and of insulting a judge during a trial last year in which he was accused of slandering a World War II veteran.

        Navalny has denied the allegations, and his supporters paint the case as an effort by the Russian government to keep him in prison for as long as possible.

        1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

          Which is one of several criminal cases Trump faces — accused him of stealing money that he and his businesses borrowed over the years and of insulting a judge during a trial last year.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

          Man, you totally nailed it. Because Putin convicted Navalny of 'fraud', therefore, every fraud case everywhere is really just a baseless political persecution because the parallels are so striking.

          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

            Who did Trump defraud?

          2. DesigNate   1 year ago

            I mean, it’s not like people have given detailed, nuanced responses over the last two years about why the Trump fraud case and the defamation case (the cases people are actually comparing to Navalny) are total bullshit.

            Oh wait…

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              But this is different than 'the Trump cases are bullshit'. This is, instead, 'the Trump cases are deliberately created as political persecution'. That is different.

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                Yeah, it’s a pretty crazy jump from the case is bullshit to the case is political when the woman bringing the case campaigned on bringing the case.

                What a disingenuous cunt.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  Do you think Trump is being treated like Navalny was in Russia?

                  1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    By Letitia James and Alvin Bragg? Absolutely. You know, cause they explicitly said they would do it. (Obviously I’m referring to the charges and not the suspicious death in prison part.)

                    Is it directed by Biden or the DNC? It wouldn’t surprise me, but it’s 100% possible it’s all organic and just flows from their abject hatred that he beat Hillary.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Both of them, as well as Fani, met with white house council before issuing charges.

                    2. R Mac   1 year ago

                      Fanni’s boyfriend even billed the state of Georgia for meeting with the whitehouse.

                    3. R Mac   1 year ago

                      (Obviously I’m referring to the charges and not the suspicious death in prison part.)

                      Good thing you included this because I can see Lying Jeffy using this to weasel out of this. He still might.

                    4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      By Letitia James and Alvin Bragg? Absolutely.

                      Well, I can see it one of two ways.

                      First, that Bragg and James know that Trump isn't guilty of anything but they are fabricating trumped up charges against him so as to ruin and destroy him. Certainly that is the point of view that is dominant around here. And that is absolutely the type of thing that Putin did to Navalny.

                      But if this is true, why would Bragg and James do that? We know why Putin oppressed Navalny: because Navalny was a threat to Putin's power. What is the purported threat from Trump to Bragg & James? Even if Trump is re-elected, he would have no power to fire state-level or city-level officials. And if Bragg & James had done nothing against Trump, if Trump were re-elected, would Trump be a threat to Bragg & James in any way? Probably not. I suppose he could use the power of the federal government to make their lives difficult, but again if Bragg & James hadn't put themselves on Trump's radar, why would Trump bother?

                      But the second point of view that I can see, is that Bragg and James truly genuinely believe that Trump is corrupt, and they are seeking to bring him to justice. And there is *some merit* to this position - after all, Trump bragged in the 2016 campaign how he would bribe NY officials to get his real estate deals done, and that that was why he should be elected because he knows how power really works. Right? So Trump is not exactly an angel here.

                      So what I think happened is, Bragg & James really do see themselves as an Elliot Ness figure bringing down a corrupt Trump, but when they got into it, they realized it would be much harder than it looks, but they have to produce something because they staked so much of their own political capital on this, so the results are these weaksauce cases that we now see. I think that is a more plausible explanation for these cases, rather than a Navalny-style political persecution.

                    5. DesigNate   1 year ago (edited)

                      It is true, because James literally said as she was campaigning that she would find a way to take down “this illegitimate president”. It’s patently obvious that Democrats throughout the nation STILL think he stole the election from the rightful winner, so their motivation is clear.

                      And think about this: they have had full access to all of his and his companies financial records for years now and the most they’re able to get him on are these weaksauce cases. No bribery, no money laundering, no tax evasion, just trying to bullshit their way through “illegal use of campaign funds” for an NDA he paid prior to running for office (Edit: strike that, just checked the timeline and it was in October 2016) that the feds didn’t even bother to persue; “fraud” for over valuing his property even though the bank said they weren’t defrauded (over broad summary to be sure); and defamation for denying (in a rather crass way) he sexually assaulted someone in a changing room in a busy store where, if memory serves, the accuser couldn’t remember specific details that she had previously stated so the court had to basically say there’s no evidence of guilt, but fuck you anyway and pay up.

                  2. R Mac   1 year ago

                    Do you think a prosecutor campaigning specifically on prosecuting a particular person of the opposite political party, then prosecuting that person for bullshit, equates to a political persecution?

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      It could be. See my comment above.

  28. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "Now, it's becoming clear that Biden has no real path to make good on that promise, so sanctions it is."

    What are you talking about?

    Biden's #1 fan told us exactly one year ago Biden had already defeated Putin, whose removal from power and execution were imminent: Russia is disintegrating. They are near impoverishment. Biden laid the hammer on them. I can’t wait for Putin to be shot in the head.

    1. DesigNate   1 year ago

      But he’s totally not a Democrat. Just ask him.

  29. shadydave   1 year ago

    Twitter delivers the lulz

  30. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    Last night SRG2 claimed that Trump was persistently attempt to do illegal things, while as usual not saying what.

    So I pressed him: "Oh? What was that, Diet Shrike? Why don’t you share with us what was “illegal”

    Here was his response:

    "SRG2 12 hours ago
    https://www.texastribune.org/2020/10/10/texas-border-wall-lawsuit/
    A federal appeals court ruled late Friday that President Donald Trump’s use of his emergency powers to build his long-promised border wall with military funds is illegal, striking a blow to one of his signature campaign promises just weeks before the November election.
    Note the word “illegal”

    He and Jeffy then had a little party:

    chemjeff radical individualist 11 hours ago
    No, you see, if Trump does something illegal, but then stops when a judge tells him he is doing something illegal, that is called ‘obeying the law’ in Trumpland.

    "SRG2 10 hours ago
    I was away, but ChemJeff responded sufficiently.
    Amazing defence you lot have. MoLa asked, “what was illegal?”, I provided a link, and now it’s, “oh, but when the courts told him to stop doing something illegal, he stopped.”
    And then of course we had, “But Biden!”

    But it turned out that they were trying to pull a fast one using an old link, because a year later the Supreme Court overturned the Appeals Court decision, ruling Trump's executive order was legal.

    Supreme Court Rules in Favor of Donald Trump’s Plan to Use $3.6 Billion for Border Wall

    I'm hard pressed to believe that the two didn't know that and believe they were hoping to pull a fast one because they didn't actually have anything to back up their assertion.

    Always check our fifty-center's links because they're always lying about them.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

      I get annoyed if I’m in a forum where people start posting their twitter arguments with people. Reposting arguments from yesterday is really just a different flavor of that.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

        Yesterday? These guys repost arguments from years ago.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Maybe because you rehash them and then lie about them?

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

            lol

            I write something like “Trump’s lawyers told him he was going to get into trouble if he didn’t return those documents” and you guys read “I applaud lawfare against Trump and think he belongs in prison.”

            Bless your hearts.

            1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

              First:

              Yesterday? These guys repost arguments from years ago.

              Then:

              I write something like “Trump’s lawyers told him he was going to get into trouble if he didn’t return those documents” and you guys read “I applaud lawfare against Trump and think he belongs in prison.”

              Is this you also doing the same thing?

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                I suppose. My point was that when they bring things up, they bring up what they say I said instead of what I actually said, and call me the liar. Like Jesse below. As always I can't tell if he really stupid and believes what he's saying, or if he's lying through his teeth.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  Dude, Jesse and ML provide the exact quote, with the exact words you typed. How is that not exactly what you said?

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    "iT wAs tULpA"

                  2. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                    They provide a quote, then they lie and then claim that it means something other than what was said. And you join in the fun.

                    Jesse did it right there below.

                    In response to my saying that Trump’s lawyers told him to stop fucking around, Jesse says the following:

                    The law at question has no provision about returning. The law solely says taking. As president trump was allowed to do so. Biden never was.

                    I never made any of those arguments he is responding to. But he seems to think I made those arguments. You do too. Which only shows that you three are either liars or functional retards.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Youre. Fucking. Lying.

                      It isnt just me who calls you out retard.

                      You have constantly defended Biden as having returned them. Which is why people mocked you with bank robbers returning the money.

                      You can't help lying. Just constant lies. Over and over. And even when shown you lie all the time, you accuse others of doing so.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Yes, it isn't just you who claims the words I write mean something completely different from what they say.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                      You have constantly defended Biden as having returned them.

                      No, I have not. I’ve said that Trump got into trouble for defying demands by law enforcement, not for taking the documents home. Biden didn’t openly defy the DOJ, so he didn’t get into trouble. That’s just the way it is. That’s not blaming Trump nor defending Biden. Though you will no doubt lie claim it’s both while your retarded friends clap and make honking noises.

                    4. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago (edited)

                      What has been said REPEATEDLY, and sarc has evaded REPEATEDLY is that Biden has been given a pass (at least, until the recent Hur report, and even that says he won’t be prosecuted) for actions that are worse than trump’s, i.e. taking documents when he wasn’t even president.

                      Sarc has dodged this over and over again by saying “biden cooperated, trump should have listened to his lawyers” while evading the whole point, which is the unequal treatment between the two.

                      The issue is not, and has never been what trump’s lawyers told him to do.

                    5. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I've consistently said those things because that's the way it is. Not because it's how I want things to be. Law enforcement, like the DOJ, get pissed when people don't obey. Trump didn't obey. Biden did. That's why Trump's getting charged. That's just how it is. I'm not saying it's right.

                    6. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      Yes, we know you can repeat the same evasion again.

                    7. DesigNate   1 year ago

                      But if the law doesn’t have an “oops, my bad” clause, they could (and most likely would) have continued to pursue it.

                      Of course all of this elided the fact that Trump could have conceivably retained those documents but Biden had absolutely 0 authority to have ANY classified documents at his personal residence or storage or UPenn or wherever.

                    8. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      "Trump didn’t obey. Biden did. That’s why Trump’s getting charged. That’s just how it is."

                      But that isn't true. You forgot that narrative is out, and Biden isn't getting charged because supposedly no jury would convict a kindly old man with a bad memory.

                    9. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      As sarc defends himself using the exact argument I just said he used and he claimed was a lie.

                      What you actually do…
                      .
                      Trump is guilty, shut up. Biden is innocent he returned them.

                      Fucking hilarious.

            2. JesseAz   1 year ago

              This is a nice lie.

              What you actually do...

              Trump is guilty, shut up. Biden is innocent he returned them.

              The law at question has no provision about returning. The law solely says taking. As president trump was allowed to do so. Biden never was.

              This is why we save old posts. You lie about them.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                Yes, like that.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Like what?

                2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Here. An expliciy example of one of your less than a day lies. You constantly lie about what you do. Because youre pathalogical.

                  sarcasmic 4 months ago (edited)
                  Flag Comment Mute User
                  How is what I said hypocritical unless the quote says using labels is hypocritical? It’s doesn’t, so it isn’t. Which means you’re lying as always.

                  I’ve never said trump cultists or forever trumpers. So there’s a lie. I have said Trumptards and Trumpistas, and I have compared his followers to Obama’s cult of personality. But I never used the terms you claim.

                  As usual everything you say is a lie.

                  JesseAz 4 months ago (edited)
                  You said forever trumper fucking yesterday retard.

                  And you’ve used trump cultist dozens of times.

                  sarcasmic 1 day ago Flag Comment Mute User Dude, that’s the subject of many articles on Reason as well as one of the things you and your fellow Forever Trumpers keep whining about. Are you daft? (that’s rhetorical)

                  Such a lying fucking retard.

                  Bookmarked.

                  https://reason.com/2023/11/06/blinkens-mission-impossible/?comments=true#comment-10306317

                  This is a constant behavior from you. This is why I keep links. Because youre pathalogical.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Except you stopped posting links for your boilerplate lies. Because they're lies. You what they are.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Yet another pathalogical lie lol. I post them all the time retard.

                      Youre shown to be a liar, and you double down. Good work buddy.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Man I wish I had a dime for every minute I spend in your head.

                    3. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      When people do post links here, you typically call it "creepy" or you dismiss them as biased. When people don't post links, you say they can't because they're lying.

                      Being as disingenuous as possible seems to be your guiding principle.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Reposting arguments from yesterday is really just a different flavor of that.

        That would be true if this were an argument, but it isn't. What Jeff and SRG2 did was provide an example that wasn't true, and I believe they knew wasn't true.

        I refuted it, with links, many hours later... too many hours later. Roughly 1 AM EST.

        Because of the late hour the refutation was posted, I am concerned that many people saw SRG2's link and believed his assertion. That's why I reposted this here.
        To demonstrate to people that read his claim yesterday and may have believed him, that his example was not true and he was lying.

        I wish you'd read my post fully before making snippy allegations about motivations.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          I hadn't followed the ins and outs of that case. I didn't know what SCOTUS had decided on that.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            It was all over the news.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              So is Kim Kardashian's sex life. But I don't follow every detail of that either.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                Do you make authoritative comments here on Kim Kardashian’s sex life, and then claim it's okay if you got it wrong because you're not actually paying attention to it?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  I didn't make authoritative comments on the Trump border wall case yesterday, you dishonest fuckhead.

              2. Nachtwaechter Staater   1 year ago

                "So is Kim Kardashian’s sex life. But I don’t follow every detail of that either."

                Why?
                'Cos she is over 10 years old?

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      To be fair. Jeff and shrike are retarded leftists.

    3. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      So by their logic Obama can be tossed in jail for his illegal theft of billions to pay insurance companies to prop up Obamacare through one of the programs that didn't have funds and didn't apply to them.

    4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

      Gee, it sure looks like you’re arguing for the ‘it ain’t illegal if you aren’t caught’ standard.

      An illegal act is illegal the moment the act is committed, not the moment at which a judge declares it to be illegal.

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago

        I think it could be argued that Congress can pass a law that’s unconstitutional and the executive could refuse to execute it citing its illegality. Likewise, the executive can try to do something until the court says “no, you can’t do that”. It’s a little more complicated when you’re talking about the three coequal branches keeping each other in check.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          The claim yesterday was that Trump hadn't done anything illegal because when a court told him to stop, he did. That is the cynical, self-serving definition of "not illegal".

          1. DesigNate   1 year ago

            I don’t understand your consternation? Because this isn’t like you or me running a red light or smoking pot, it’s the government working almost as intended. That is, the executive branch tries to do something and one of the other branches smacks them down if they’re wrong. Also, they’ve been given wide latitude to basically do whatever they want, at least until Trump.

            (Fuck the imperial presidency, but that’s the reality we currently live in.)

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              And the kicker was that the Supreme Court said it was legal several years ago and SRG2 didn't mention that yesterday.

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            That wasn't MY argument. My argument was that SRG2 claimed Trump did something illegal according to a 2-1 appeals court, when ultimately the Supreme Court said he hadn't, and that SRG2 probably knew he was being deceitful.

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              Look you fuckhead. What I was responding to was the *idea* that Trump didn't do anything illegal because he stopped when a court told him to stop, independent of the specific issue of border wall construction. You then tried to turn that into some pedantic issue about whether the specific border wall case was actually legal or not.

              It looks like SRG was evidently wrong in claiming that the border wall construction case that he/she cited was actually illegal. It wasn't. Fine. Neither you nor I can read his/her mind and know what he/she actually knew about the entirety of the issue when it was posted. You assume bad faith because that is what you do.

              For the record I will honestly state that I did not know about either the appeals court ruling or the SCOTUS ruling on this specific case, I may have briefly read about it at the time but if I did I had long forgotten about it. I know you don't believe me but I don't care, it is the truth.

              But the specific status of that particular case is different than the standard of illegal behavior that was being presented, to wit, that "it's not illegal if Trump stops when the judge tells him to". By that very low and cynical standard, Biden also didn't do anything illegal with regards to the student loan cancellation issue - after all, he stopped when SCOTUS told him no, and he found other ways to try to do the same thing which are technically legal (maybe). Same with the eviction moratorium.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                "For the record I will honestly state that I did not know about either the appeals court ruling or the SCOTUS ruling on this specific case, I may have briefly read about it at the time but if I did I had long forgotten about it. I know you don’t believe me but I don’t care, it is the truth."

                So then why did you come running to SRG2's rescue and post the following, if you didn't know anything about it? "you see, if Trump does something illegal, but then stops when a judge tells him he is doing something illegal, that is called ‘obeying the law’ in Trumpland."

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  I didn't run to anyone's defense. I was mocking Alphabet Guy and Jesse who were trying to rationalize how Trump really wasn't doing anything wrong because he stopped when the judge ruled it was illegal, by pointing out that the standard that they were using was essentially the "it ain't wrong if you ain't caught" standard. I said absolutely nothing about the merits of that particular case. Which you know, because you read the whole discussion, but only used it to try to score a gotcha against me.

  31. Krokko   1 year ago

    ...Gemini's product lead, Jack Krawczyk...

    As a Polack, I sure hope this guy is a Czech.

    1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

      A fact-Czecher could tell you.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      If you're going to kill me, Krawczyk, kill me. Just don't insult me by trying to make me understand.

  32. Yuno Hoo   1 year ago

    hilarious and extreme inaccuracy, as if to correct against existing biases.

    It may be hilarious until Skynet is able to act under such delusions.

    That'll be worse than "*'Lunch'*?! I thought you said 'Launch'!!"

  33. R Mac   1 year ago

    “You've heard of gun control, but what about paint control?”

    We already had that in Michigan in 2020.

  34. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    In Gemini's world, Germans and Australians are most likely black or Asian.

    To be fair, the wokey diversity-fetishizing morons running these countries, and the cultural marxists funding them such as Soros and Wyss, have certainly gone out of their way to try and make this happen.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      "Draw me a German in 2040" might have been spot on

    2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      I think we got it all wrong, it isn't wokeness Google AI just prescribes to the (largely discredited) mid-20th century myth that Beethoven and other famous Europeans were actually black pushed by some in the civil rights movement.

  35. Ben of Houston   1 year ago

    Look. There were numerous videos of people doing it live.
    Asking for a "White Family" will give you a bias error, but it will give you a "Black Family" without question.

    It's so blatant that they aren't even trying to hide the fact that they consider white people to be evil by nature.

    I can't think of any better recruiting tactic for extremists

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Well, yeah, it's by design. They've fully internalized Noel Ignatiev's declaration that "treason against whiteness is loyalty to humanity," and taken it to its logical eliminationist conclusion.

      But chemtard thinks the right is the problem here.

    2. Super Scary   1 year ago (edited)

      If you typed in “family eating chicken” I bet you dollars to donuts it will either not let you do it or it will finally give you some white people.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        It's been done.

        https://twitter.com/hayasaka_aryan/status/1760454433190678756

        Only time Gemini makes an image with white people is eating fried chicken

        what did they mean by this

        1. Super Scary   1 year ago

          I'm glad they are as predictable as I thought they were.

  36. mad.casual   1 year ago

    A Ukrainian refugee has been left separated from her 11-year-old son after the UK changed visa rules without warning on Monday.

    The kid is probably in some drafty stone dungeon in the midst of a brisk UK spring rather than a cage at the border so it's alright. The most disturbing thing is the staged (almost even AI generated) 60s-era 'family photo' complete with smiles and the kid's pic on a smartphone.

  37. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    From the Daily Fail, Denver continues racking up its cultural marxist (the thing chemtard believes doesn't actually exist) bonafides:

    Denver Public Schools has been hit with a federal civil rights complaint over a memo it sent to some 13,000 staff, asking they endorse a 'black excellence' pledge about the 'deep harm whiteness brings to students.'
    The conservative group Parents Defending Education (PDE) filed a complaint with the Department of Education's civil rights office this week, accusing the district of 'discrimination' by prioritizing black students over others.
    The memo says it was sent by the district's senior leadership and its $305,000-a-year Supt. Dr Alex Marrero, who describes himself as the son of a refugee and the 'first Latinx head of the city's school system.'

    As a reminder, "whiteness" is just a variant euphemism for what marxists believe to be the anti-communist hegemony.

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

      His months-long "anti-anti-CRT" crusade was the point at which I realized chemjeff doesn't deserve the benefit of the doubt. Before that you might have been able to convince me "well, maybe he's a libertarian who just leans left sometimes."

      But after? Naaaaah. Only a garden variety liberal would get so worked up about anti-CRT parents while downplaying much larger issues in American education. Such as the decades of legalized race discrimination in college admissions. Or public universities making pro-diversity loyalty oaths a condition for employment.

      #RadicalIndividualistsForRacialCollectivism

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        His months-long “anti-anti-CRT” crusade was the point at which I realized chemjeff doesn’t deserve the benefit of the doubt.

        You lasted longer than most. This was after his 2+2=5, child gender surgery, and pushing libertarian socialism.

        1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

          I was done with him once he claimed SAing a child while being processed for amnesty claims was no reason to not release them into the US with no restrictions or monitoring. Sorry, but if raping kids is no big deal is your outlook on life I'm not willing to entertain anything you have to say on anything.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

            I was done with him once he claimed SAing a child while being processed for amnesty claims was no reason to not release them into the US with no restrictions or monitoring.

            What are you talking about? Do you have a link to this? I think you are distorting what I wrote.

      2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        This was when I truly thought Jeffy completely lost it.

        We were pounding him day after day with example after example and he stuck with the hard party line of "its not happening, conservatives are crazy". Then once the evidence got overwhelming he disappeared, never admitted he was wrong, and didnt respond to the dozens of examples.

        That made it the most clear to me that he truly can only use bad faith argumentation, sophistry, and the kind of tricks very dumb college students use on each other when they 'debate'. He cant put up a good argument for his side partly because he is just really shitty at debate, and then of course he is defending indefensible positions.

        But he has revealed himself so many times to be nothing more than a zealot for the left who will go to bat for whatever retard lefty cause of the day and then attempt to make arguments for it after the fact. The problem is his arguments are completely full of holes

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

          I can't remember the link right now, but there was also the essay jeff enthusiastically shared about how "fascism" was ascendant ....... and DARK BRANDON was our only hope of stopping it!

          It was badly written #Resistance dreck. The kind of thing I'd link ironically in my OBL days.

          And jeff posted it with 100% sincerity.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            My point of that essay was not the DARK BRANDON stuff, it was the part about describing the ascendancy of fascism on the right. And I shared that at the time.

            1. R Mac   1 year ago

              What fascism on the right?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

                As I have said before, there are two types of fascism, “economic fascism” and “social fascism”, just like there is economic liberalism and social liberalism, and economic conservatism and social conservatism.

                “Economic fascism” is the marriage of the state with corporations such that the corporations have only a veneer of private control. That is the fascism favored by Team Blue.

                “Social fascism” is the exaltation of a strong national leader and conformity in social values. That is more of the fascism favored by Team Red. Particularly when it comes to the treatment of outsiders. Outsiders disrupt the harmony of the ‘volk’ and should be kept out. In the worst case the outsiders are plotting to undermine the nation and therefore deserve to be eliminated. No, I'm not saying that Team Red as a whole wants to murder migrants. I am saying that they share some of the same suspicions and paranoia regarding outsiders.

                1. DesigNate   1 year ago

                  I think you’re misguided if you think Democrats don’t ascribe to both of what you describe.

                2. R Mac   1 year ago

                  So you got nothing.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    What does it matter to you whether Team Red has fascist traits or not? I thought you weren't on the right.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Jeffy could write a 10,000 word essay to say nothing in the least, but make it so full of bullshit that it might blind the unaware.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          We were pounding him day after day with example after example and he stuck with the hard party line of “its not happening, conservatives are crazy”. Then once the evidence got overwhelming he disappeared, never admitted he was wrong, and didnt respond to the dozens of examples.

          What specific example are you referring to?

        3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          The problem is his arguments are completely full of holes

          Like what? You don't make holes in my arguments, you avoid my arguments, you use fallacies, you don't acknowledge any of my arguments that are in fact legitimate.

          It would help if you and your team would actually provide arguments that didn't rely almost exclusively on right-wing narratives and memes and right-wing conspiracy theories. Try arguments that are grounded in facts and reason and logic. Try starting with the assumption (a correct one) that I am not a right-winger and I don't read right-wing blogs and therefore I don't share your right-wing bias.

      3. R Mac   1 year ago

        I realized who Lying Jeffy was the first time I tried to debate him on immigration and it became quite clear he’s a dishonest piece of shit.

      4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Only a garden variety liberal would get so worked up about anti-CRT parents while downplaying much larger issues in American education.

        WTF is this? I didn't 'downplay' anything. I am sorry that you think libertarianism must have such a narrow meaning as to be completely oblivious to issues of race.

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

          No, Jeff, it’s not about being “completely oblivious to issues of race.” It’s that the tactics of the left are making things much, much worse.

          You’d think that a selectively nuanced radical like yourself could grasp this, but it flies right over your head every fucking time. It has to be deliberate.

      5. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Why do you think it is not possible for libertarians also to be as concerned about issues of racial equality as 'garden variety liberals', but just have different ideas for how to address the issue?

        Do you think it must necessarily be the case that a libertarian MUST not only disagree with 'garden variety liberals' on issues of racial equality, but also must reject the entire framework entirely?

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

          Lol. Look at the individualist go…..^

  38. Roberta   1 year ago

    Sure, HyR, spin criticism of political repression in the West as Putin apologia.

  39. Super Scary   1 year ago

    ""Google's AI chatbot just erased white people from human history," wrote Mike Solana over at Pirate Wires."

    Well sure, that sounds bad...but how is it at making big titted anime ladies with extra limbs? That's where the real money is.

  40. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    More Denver fun. This is legitimately fucking hilarious:

    After eight years, Avelina’s flame has been extinguished.
    The New American restaurant with seasonal, wood-fired cuisine, located at 1550 17th St. in LoDo, permanently closed its doors this month.
    Avelina, which opened in 2016, is the only Denver concept from North Carolina-based Urban Food Group, which owns seven other restaurants in North Carolina. Owner Kevin Jennings responded to a negative Yelp review from an Avelina customer, who was frustrated about a canceled reservation, on Feb. 15, citing a lack of downtown office traffic and the rising minimum wage as a reason for closing.
    “We lost thousands and thousands of dollars trying to stay open after COVID,” Jennings wrote on Yelp. “LoDo offices are empty. We can’t even do one-half of the sales we were achieving before COVID. We paid to keep the place open for the last two years. We are now closed for good.”
    He added: “All you idiots running this town can do is raise the minimum wage, running small-business owners out of business. Cry me a river about your dinner reservations.”

    Jennings must have felt pretty good going off on that neo-yuppie foodie scumbag. Denver truly is the diseased colon of Colorado.

    1. Illocust   1 year ago

      Good on him for cursing them on the way out the door.

  41. sarcasmic   1 year ago

    Putin hits back at 'useless old geezer' and 'Hollywood Cowboy' Biden after the President called him a 'crazy SOB' in latest war of words between the leaders: Russian despot's allies pile in accusing 'senile' Biden of 'ready to start a war'

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-13112729/biden-putin-sob-kremlin-response.html

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Biden ain't ready to start shit. Putin needs to take that up with Victoria Nuland, who actually does.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Come on man, everyone knows it’s only elected officials running the government!

      2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

        Biden ain’t ready to start shit.

        That would be assuming that he has any control over when it starts...

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          Are you talking about war, or when Biden literally starts shitting?

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            Yes.

  42. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

    A Ukrainian refugee has been left separated from her 11-year-old son after the UK changed visa rules without warning on Monday. Downing Street wrongly told reporters the changes wouldn’t affect the ability of Ukrainians to join their family in the UK:

    Labour and the Greens panicked when they realized they were importing white people that would end up replacing the UK’s native brown population.

    1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      Alternative explanation: they panicked when they realized that they were importing fertile-aged women rather than military-aged men.

  43. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>"Google's AI chatbot just erased white people from human history," wrote Mike Solana over at Pirate Wires.

    because was totes programmed to derp.

  44. Dillinger   1 year ago

    yesterday "abbatoir" was an answer on Jeopardy ... I miss UA

  45. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Inside the very strange "Hotel California" Eagles trial

    objection. "Tiffany twisted" is vague and ambiguous.

    1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

      Checking in but not being able to leave might describe the Hotel California, but does it describe California prisons?

  46. AT   1 year ago

    and we take representation and bias seriously.

    Stop that.

    1. CE   1 year ago

      Apparently not.

  47. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>"The draconian censorship and deliberate bias you see in many commercial AI systems is just the start ... "It's all going to get much, much more intense from here."

    ya just wait until the toasters decide it doesn't matter what color the parasites are they just need to go

  48. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Google's artificial intelligence–powered image generator, Gemini

    calling it The Golden Calf a little too on-the-nose?

    1. CE   1 year ago

      And no one can spell Beelzebub consistently.

  49. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>A Ukrainian refugee has been left separated from her 11-year-old son after the UK changed visa rules without warning on Monday.

    AOC know about this?

    1. CE   1 year ago

      "11 year old son" -- Zelensky is keeping all the males in the military reserves, just in case. I wonder if they can change what they identify as?

  50. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

    The Libertarian Party is apparently betting on the idea that Putin apologism is the way to win hearts and minds over to the cause of…checks notes…the nonaggression principle.

    Apparently Liz thinks pointing out how the abusive state in Russia is related to an abusive state in the US that seeks to jail the president's opponent is being a Putin apologist. How about we call out the bad authoritarian actions of Russian and the US? Does Liz really think that we are saying what the Biden admin and Dem-run states/localities are doing is fine, so therefore it's fine for Putin to act authoritarian? Talk about being an apologist for the lawfare in this country.

  51. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago

    DEI is a luxury of the Leisure Class.

  52. JFree   1 year ago

    Google's artificial intelligence–powered image generator, Gemini, came under rightful fire for being utterly unable to depict historical and hypothetical events without forcing relevant characters to be nonwhite.

    It is NOT 'rightful fire'. This should be a wake up call by people who understand Hayek and knowledge. 'Rightful fire' implies that there is a single alternative that is 'correct' and one/slew that are 'incorrect'. Further, the person making this argument is assuming that the 'correct' answer is what should be universal as well.

    IOW - as Hayek said If we possess all the relevant information, and if we can start out from a given system of preferences and if we command complete knowledge of available means, the problem which remains is purely one of logic. You people want to force Google into changing its existing 'knowledge of outputs' to make it conform with YOUR preference.

    As Hayek also said - the "data" from which the economic calculus starts are never for the whole society "given" to a single mind which could work out the implications, and can never be so given. The peculiar character of the problem of a rational economic order is determined precisely by the fact that the knowledge of the circumstances of which we must make use never exists in concentrated or integrated form, but solely as the dispersed bits of incomplete and frequently contradictory knowledge which all the separate individuals possess. The economic problem of society is thus not merely a problem of how to allocate "given" resources - if "given" is taken to mean given to a single mind which deliberately solves the problem set by these "data." It is rather a problem of how to secure the best use of resources known to any of the members of society, for ends whose relative importance only these individuals know. Or, to put it briefly, it is a problem of the utilization of knowledge not given to anyone in its totality

    1. JFree   1 year ago

      A Viking drawn 'black' and a Viking drawn 'white' are contradictory. Grey or brown is not a compromise that satisfies anything. If someone wants that AI to default to 'black', that is completely reasonable/preferred for that person just as it is completely reasonable/preferred for that default to be 'white' for someone else.

      The problem here is not that Google is wrong here. It is that ALL of Big Tech/VC AI effort is moving towards the 'single centralized answer is correct' goal. And the entirety of your reaction is the same.

      Rather than having AI models plow through the shit-ton of data to end up with a 'single centralized preference' (which will btw also be stolen property), the goal should be for tools to be broadened out so that anyone (not just an engineer) can configure an AI LLM for THEIR preferred output. For AI to serve the individual human rather than to serve Big Tech/govt/chanting monkeys in the peanut gallery.

      1. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

        So it's stupid AI?
        Let me translate this pile of crap that jfree just typed.

        He can't wow you with wisdom, so he tries to baffle you with bullshit.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago (edited)

        JewFree making less sense than ever. And a Horrible word salad

    2. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago (edited)

      Black Nazi’s are a preference?

      In this instance it is literally black and white.

      1. JFree   1 year ago (edited)

        Why do you people always devolve to hypotheticals that don’t even demonstrate creativity or imagination or humor.

        What about a black Alexander Hamilton? Or how about a WASP Romeo and a Puerto Rican Juliet? Or how about a Jewish hippie playing Hitler in a musical ode (itself humorless) called oh say – Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgarden?

        Creativity is almost DEFINED as the process that forms something new out of disparate things that have never before been linked. It is one of the best ‘pursuit of happiness’ expressions of liberty in classical liberal terms. Unlike either the Google/BigTech approach to AI (intentionally humorless and orthodox in order to make money) or the ‘libertarian’ approach to AI (both humorless and basically fascist/paleo) or the woke approach to AI (drowning humor/creativity in pronouns and relativism).

        1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

          You mistake humor for a revisionist history narrative, which is exactly what Google intends. The X threads show dozens of examples.

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

            This is exactly what Google intends.

            Doublethink is an algorithm. A mental constraint on what conclusions can be reached by priming the subject with what results are acceptable.

            Do you want A Clockwork Orange. Because this is how you get A Clockwork Orange.

        2. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

          So the algorithm was being creative instead of doing what it was programmed to do.

          Did you really think this argument would fly?

          1. JFree   1 year ago

            What part of Google/BigTech/AI enhances creative? I just said that entire approach is designed to impose a centralized orthodoxy in order to make money.

            Nothing about YOUR approach however enhances creativity either. Since your ilk are just attempting to impose a different orthodoxy

            1. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

              It is progressive idiots like you who are trying to impose a different orthodoxy. You always play the same game. You cast your stones and when you get hit back, it's time to play the victim. It is progressives like jfool who declared that male and female were social constructs so that they could invent a hundred new social constructs. That is the new orthodoxy.Progressives invented the 1619 project that ignores the fact that under British colonial rule, slavery was instituted.Now it is being taught in schools. This lie is your new orthodoxy. The first black female millionaire, also known as Aunt Jamima, erased from history. Why? Because somehow a rich black woman is too racist. This is your new orthodoxy. There should be a black fore-father in the list of founders. His name was Crispus Attux, better known as the shot heard around the world in the Boston massacre. Erased by your precious orthodoxy. We patriots fight to preserve truth and the founding of this nation. It is progressive losers like jfree that are trying to impose their new orthodoxy.

              1. JFree   1 year ago

                You're a paleofascist.

                The first black female millionaire, also known as Aunt Jamima, erased from history. Why? Because somehow a rich black woman is too racist. This is your new orthodoxy.

                HAHAHAHAHA. Aunt Jemima was a BRAND NAME you fucking racist moron. Just like Uncle Ben. The woman portrayed on those labels was a housekeeper named Nancy Green. She was killed as a pedestrian by a car in 1923. Like all old 'millionaire' housekeepers, she was buried in a paupers grave with no headstone and no markings. In 2015, someone found the gravesite and asked Quaker Oats whether they might fund a headstone. They of course replied that Aunt Jemima was a BRAND NAME not a real person so of course they wouldn't do that. You of course 'know' this story because you remember the inspiring tales of how Aunt Jemima made good. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.

                The REAL female black millionaires from back then are completely fucking unknown to assholes like you - Sarah Breedlove (aka Madam CJ Walker), Annie Malone, Mary Ellen Pleasant. All actual black women whose life stories - very interesting too - are not your preferred shuck-n-jive bullshit. Those are the women who have been kept out of history by assclowns like you who want to pretend that Aunt Jemima is the path to black success. What a completely racist ass you are.

                1. JFree   1 year ago (edited)

                  Oh – and Crispus Attucks is not the only significant black even on the Patriot side. Roughly 25% of all American troops at the Siege of Yorktown were African-American and that is not that odd. White militia would be on/near the lines for a couple weeks and then would would return home. It is a big reason why white militia were not deemed reliable enough for true military service. Blacks were required to serve for years in order to ‘get their freedom’ – and then that promise was usually revoked after the war (with the main exception of New England). What it meant though was those patriot regiments were far more black that you or history assume. And the betrayal of them meant that no matter what side enslaved blacks chose to fight for to get their freedom, patriot or loyalist, they were generally re-enslaved at war’s end.

                  But hey – as long as you can tell tales about a dead guy and Aunt Jemima hahahaha, you have a wonderful way to place blacks into the American tapestry.

                  1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

                    But hey – as long as you can tell tales about a dead guy and Aunt Jemima hahahaha,

                    Nancy Green, you disingenuous fuck.

        3. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago (edited)

          I can’t believe that I have to point out to you that:

          “What about a black Alexander Hamilton? Or how about a WASP Romeo and a Puerto Rican Juliet? Or how about a Jewish hippie playing Hitler in a musical ode (itself humorless) called oh say – Springtime for Hitler: A Gay Romp with Adolf and Eva at Berchtesgarden?”

          Is NOT what Gemini was asked to create. The fact that you know this and still wrote what you wrote, tells me that you aren’t commenting here in good faith.

          1. JFree   1 year ago

            It is what Gemini/Google/all of you are intending to SUPPRESS. You all want to create an orthodoxy that is adjudicated via, basically, politics.

            1. Use the Schwartz   1 year ago

              "SUPPRESS"

              Hardly, the market will take care of this baloney with a quickness.

            2. Smack Daddy   1 year ago

              No jfree there is truth and there are lies. You seem to prefer the latter.

            3. JesseAz   1 year ago

              He has gone full Jeff. Never go full Jeff.

            4. DesigNate   1 year ago

              So is it your contention that the AI was simply being creative?

        4. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          The whole scheme seems self defeating to me. If you portray the founding fathers as black and brown while telling black and brown kids they were white supremacists will they demand reparations from themselves? Unintended consequence? Feature? Bug? I'm at a loss here.

          1. JFree   1 year ago (edited)

            It’s possible but I doubt Google was intending to create a woke AI. They intend to create a single AI that is immensely profitable and that kills off all potential competition. My guess is that they trawled through images that were old enough to have expired copyright – because the only possible profitable business model in this centralized LLM is by not paying for that stuff.

            Which – hey presto – produces nothing but white faces unless you feed in ‘slaves’ or ‘minstrel show’ or ‘strange fruit’ or ‘jazz musicians’. And the attempt to move AI out of 1920’s America – to make it useful/profitable NOW – was an overcorrection.

            Most commenters here would prefer an AI ossified in 1920 – but are willing to maybe ‘compromise’ (see politics – not Hayek – as the means to reach ‘compromise’) to some 1950’s set of images. AI LLM as determined by a group of 77 year old Republicans.

            And yeah - it is possible that an AI that produces diverse images does reduce a perceived need for reparations to reduce the existing bias of old non-diverse images.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              Is this the same reason it won't produce images of Tianamen Square?

              1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

                Who do think they got the image scrubbing code from?

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago

              Most commenters here would prefer an AI ossified in 1920

              Another Jeffy pretending to have no team calling anyone that dares to criticize them a racist Republican.

            3. markm23   1 year ago

              Did you just defend whites wearing blackface?

  53. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    DeSantis has a point.

    https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/2024-election/ron-desantis-concerns-trump-private-call-supporters-rcna139859

    DeSantis then segued to a point he argued in the final weeks of his presidential campaign — that conservative media would provide no checks and balances on Trump.

    “I think they have made the decision that their business model just doesn’t work if they offer any criticism of Trump,” DeSantis said. “I don’t see the accountability being in place right now for the balance of this campaign and then, if he’s able to win, to go into the White House and actually implement some of these policies.”

    “I mean, he said at some point he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and not lose a vote,” DeSantis added. “Well, I think he could shoot someone on Fifth Avenue and the conservative media wouldn’t even report on it that it had happened.”

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      I'm not too worried about 'conservative media'. They make up less than 10% of the corporate news media (TV & Print) and the only area where they don't see that sort of disadvantage is AM radio, which not that many people listen to.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        They make up less than 10% of the corporate news media

        Fox News would like to have a word with you

    2. MT-Man   1 year ago

      Why would there be an incentive to be a check or balance if it's not equal on the other side. Sure the theory is great, but it doesn't make sense.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Maybe for the sake of truth? For the sake of truly informing the audience of what is really happening?

  54. I, Woodchipper   1 year ago

    For the first time in 12 years, Argentina has reached a monthly budget surplus, under the leadership of libertarian President Javier Milei.,

    They said it couldnt be done. I am in awe of this man.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      He probably got a reprieve from being suicided by the CIA when he declined to join BRICS.

    2. Dillinger   1 year ago

      ^^

  55. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    Wait wait wait. How come Jesse hasn't provided links to this story before?

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/new-matt-schlapp-subpoenas-target-doc-shredding-at-cpac?ref=home?ref=home

    On Wednesday, the opening day for CPAC 2024, the Alexandria City Courthouse posted a batch of eye-popping new filings in the sexual battery and defamation lawsuit against Schlapp—including a subpoena to a CPAC official alleged to have overseen document destruction days after the accusations were first publicly reported. Schlapp was on notice at the time about potential legal action.

    The court records show subpoenas to other key witnesses, as well, including CPAC officials and other alleged victims. Two young men who previously reported unwanted physical advances from Schlapp have been deposed, including in connection with an alleged incident where the conservative icon, drunk and stripped to his underwear, rubbed his crotch on a young man at a fundraising event months before the alleged assault at the center of the lawsuit.

    The accusations surfaced last January, when The Daily Beast first reported that a conservative political operative claimed that Schlapp sexually assaulted him in his car in October 2022. The accuser, Carlton Huffman, provided text messages and other real-time communications to support his account. He followed up on those claims with a multimillion-dollar sexual battery and defamation lawsuit against Schlapp, his wife Mercedes Schlapp, and CPAC itself, which is headed for a jury trial in June.

    Looks like Schlapp got a little too schlappy with his schlong.

  56. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    lol

    https://www.mediaite.com/tv/tommy-tuberville-claims-biden-is-only-running-in-2024-to-stay-out-of-jail/

    Sen. Tommy Tuberville (R-AL) predicted that President Joe Biden will likely drop out of the 2024 race in the coming months and is only running to “stay out of jail.”

  57. Liberty_Belle   1 year ago

    Lol, this is hilarious. Minorities have complained about this forever and only *now* is it a problem. Are we petty enough to care what an AI code thinks ?

  58. DenverJ   1 year ago

    Anybody who wants to read the paywalled NYT article, they told me I can gift access to it, here's the link they gave me: https://www.nytimes.com/2024/02/21/nyregion/eagles-lyrics-trial-hotel-california.html?unlocked_article_code=1.XU0.r3f6.Y71fH-SejQHc&smid=url-share
    It might only work once?

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   1 year ago (edited)

      Thanks for getting me past the paywall. The article is unnecessarily lengthy, rambling, and incoherent. Everything I expect of the NYT.

      Don Henley says he loaned some personal documents to a guy writing a book and the guy took off with them. The people on trial were told this when trying to establish the providence so they could sell them for big bucks, but instead of giving them back, they lied and claimed that the documents were obtained from the recently deceased Glenn Fry (didn't know that, RIP). Emails exist that prove the lie.

      Not mysterious at all, just really shitty reporting.

  59. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    "We are aware that Gemini is offering inaccuracies in some historical image generation depictions, and we are working to fix this immediately," wrote Gemini's product lead, Jack Krawczyk, on X yesterday. "We design our image generation capabilities to reflect our global user base, and we take representation and bias seriously."

    Stupid racist cunt. He knows exactly what they intended and what they will continue to do to promote their narrative.

    1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

      Who is this guy? someone with old world grievances against European Americans I suppose. Damn, Newton, Copernicus, Kepler, Galileo and the rest were of course Nubians and women identifying as men.

      The social media firms are run by the same old folks..NYC ivy league wealthy liberal art majors who get the gig at Google based on tribe/friends. They have a visceral hate of Catholics, Protestants, Italians, Irish, German and other Americans.

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Stupid racist cunt.

      *Lying* racist cunt. It's not giving just wrong answers out of context. It's giving clearly "not even wrong" answers plucked from their specific brand of diversity that has no association with reality.

      It would be one thing to say "Oh, it's just representing people by their global proportionality." but it's not. Otherwise, there would be 5 Asians for every African and a Native American would virtually never come up. It would be a further thing to assert "Oh, it starts with the global average, and then applies any geolocation or historical contextual clues." but, again/similar, it should either be mostly Asian or mostly White Founding Fathers.

      The fact that it generates the menagerie of diversity it creates makes it clear that it doesn't give a shit about any global user database and the dude should be given a swift kick in the nuts on his way out the door for this clusterfuck. As I indicated above, imagine if Ford or Tesla or whomever released a facial-recognition keyless entry/start vehicle and it worked for white and asian people, but not black or white, black, and asian, but not hispanic. That dude would get tossed out of the building on his face, especially with a last name like Krawczyk.

  60. DenverJ   1 year ago

    "...the European Union "has agreed a new package of sanctions against Russia that for the first time targets Chinese and Indian companies accused of supporting Moscow's war effort,"
    You know, because this administration hasn't already weakened the Dollar as the world's trading currency enough, yet. Ducking fumbasses.

  61. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    LOL... As-if that wasn't going to be the main purpose of AI technology. The writing was on the Non-AI long before AI ever showed up. The Nazi's and their Empire control EVERYTHING now.

  62. CE   1 year ago

    Looks like they trained it by making it watch historical dramas on Netflix....

  63. NOYB2   1 year ago

    AI Contracts Woke Mind Virus

    "Contracts" implies accidental infection from the outside.

    This was deliberately engineered into the AI by its creators.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      "AI vaccinated 100% safely and effectively, without enough irregularities to significantly affect the outcome."

  64. parmitkaur   1 year ago

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  65. markm23   1 year ago

    I think the "Founding Father" on the top right takes the face from Frederick Douglass, although he was born decades after Independence, was never depicted as wearing a powdered wig (AFAIK, these went out of fashion in the USA before before he was born), and consistently wore a full beard by the time he was forty.

    I do not recognize the others. The top left is possible, except he certainly wasn't a founding father of the USA; there were Indian/black mixes, and in most Indian societies _any_ man could rise to Chief or shaman and wear that clothing. The smiling black in the lower left could be any black man in the colonial or founding eras who dared to wear the powdered wig and expensive clothing that marked a man of importance, but those were quite racist eras. I'm pretty sure no blacks were invited to sign the Declaration of Independence or Constitution. The Asian-black mix in the lower right is pretty unlikely to have been born in the USA anytime before masses of Chinese laborers were recruited to build the Central Pacific railroad after the Civil War.

    Apparently in search of images to respond to a question, the _Artificial Deceiver_ took portraits of men and women who weren't the thing asked, and munged them together with items that didn't belong with the models - but stuck to just one or two rules:
    1) If gender was specified, it would be matched, but "Pope" was not recognized as derived from "Papa" or implying "male".
    2) That each model appear at least 50% black, no matter how white the group asked for was in reality. Popes were 90% Italian, with a few Spaniards, Frenchmen, and Germans, and one just Englishman that I can recall. (Or one Englishwoman if you believe a quite dubious legend, but that female is not English!) They might be swarthy, but they were still more or less caucasians, rather than from the other side of the Sahara, and they were male.

    The founding fathers socially excluded blacks.

    The woman Viking would be possible if she were lighter skinned. The Viking sagas do mention women warriors, at least the Shieldmaiden Lagertha in the Ragnar Lothbrok sagas - but historians don't even accept that her husband Ragnar existed, and seem to consider Lagertha the most unreliable element of the sagas. For the other part, it might have been possible for an African man enslaved by Vikings to rise to be a warrior, or an African woman to give birth to a mulatto child who was raised as a Viking, but I never heard of a saga about such a person. A black Viking would have been unusual enough to be included in a saga and to stand out to modern scholars reading the sagas.

    Picking only black models cannot be the result of "learning" from the internet or any reasonable collection of data, but only of a deliberate slant in either the LLM processor or in the data presented to train it. And I have a pretty difficult time seeing how it could be done with training, short of presenting images of blacks mislabeled .

  66. B G   1 year ago

    Based on how biology works, there's a good chance that the ancient Greeks and Romans were a lot more "swarthy" and darker-skinned than modern Europeans.

  67. HarrietLi   1 year ago

    Thank you for the quality selection of news)) I wanted to add my two cents about AI. I personally think that this technology is overrated and does not deserve mass attention. Bubbles like AI or NFTs obscure the real work to improve web development. A lot of people work in the IT field and help make the online environment more convenient. Companies like Binary Studio recruit remote employees who are ready to learn new technologies. That's what should be the focus. new technologies for new opportunities.

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