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Privacy

Government Is Snooping on Your Phone

Many apps collect data that is then accessed by outside entities. Should you care?

John Stossel | 2.21.2024 12:30 AM

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The government and private companies spy on us.

My former employee, Naomi Brockwell, has become a privacy specialist. She advises people on how to protect their privacy.

In my new video, she tells me I should delete most of my apps on my phone.

I push back. I like that Google knows where I am and can recommend a "restaurant near me." I like that my Shell app lets me buy gas (almost) without getting out of the car.

I don't like that government gathers information about me via my phone, but so far, so what?

Brockwell tells me I'm being dumb because I don't know which government will get that data in the future.

Looking at my phone, she tells me, "You've given location permission, microphone permission. You have so many apps!"

She says I should delete most of them, starting with Google Chrome.

"This is a terrible app for privacy. Google Chrome is notorious for collecting every single thing that they can about you…[and] broadcasting that to thousands of people…auctioning off your eyeballs. It's not just advertisers collecting this information. Thousands of shell companies, shady companies of data brokers also collect it and in turn sell it."

Instead of Google, she recommends using a browser called Brave. It's just as good, she says, but it doesn't collect all the information that Chrome does. It's slightly faster, too, because it doesn't slow down to load ads.

Then she says, "Delete Google Maps."

"But I need Google Maps!"

"You don't." She replies, "You have an iPhone. You have Apple Maps…. Apple is better when it comes to privacy…. Apple at least tries to anonymize your data."

Instead of Gmail, she recommends more private alternatives, like Proton Mail or Tuta.

"There are many others." She points out, "The difference between them is that every email going into your inbox for Gmail is being analyzed, scanned, it's being added to a profile about you."

But I don't care. Nothing beats Google's convenience. It remembers my credit cards and passwords. It fills things in automatically. I tried Brave browser but, after a week, switched back to Google. I like that Google knows me.

Brockwell says that I could import my credit cards and passwords to Brave and autofill there, too.

"I do understand the trade-off," she adds. "But email is so personal. It's private correspondence about everything in your life. I think we should use companies that don't read our emails. Using those services is also a vote for privacy, giving a market signal that we think privacy is important. That's the only way we're going to get more privacy."

She also warns that even apps like WhatsApp, which I thought were private, aren't as private as we think.

"WhatsApp is end-to-end encrypted and better than standard SMS. But it collects a lot of data about you and shares it with its parent company, Facebook. It's nowhere near as private as an app like Signal."

She notices my Shell app and suggests I delete it.

Opening the app's "privacy nutrition label," something I never bother reading, she points out that I give Shell "your purchase history, your contact information, physical address, email address, your name, phone number, your product interaction, purchase history, search history, user ID, product interaction, crash data, performance data, precise location, course location."

The list goes on. No wonder I don't read it.

She says, "The first step before downloading an app, take a look at their permissions, see what information they're collecting."

I'm just not going to bother.

But she did convince me to delete some apps, pointing out that if I want the app later, I can always reinstall it.

"We think that we need an app for every interaction we do with a business. We don't realize what we give up as a result."

"They already have all my data. What's the point of going private now?" I ask.

"Privacy comes down to choice," She replies. "It's not that I want everything that I do to remain private. It's that I deserve to have the right to selectively reveal to the world what I want them to see. Currently, that's not the world."

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  1. AT   1 year ago

    Should they care? Yea, absolutely.

    Do they care? Not even a little bit.

    You have Apple Maps…. Apple is better when it comes to privacy….

    Just... not when it comes to navigation or location searching.

    Instead of Gmail, she recommends more private alternatives, like Proton Mail or Tuta.

    Unfortunately you need a Gmail account to use an Andr... oh, I see, she's working for Apple.

    That said, she's right about Shell (or literally ANY other single-venue app - especially those who promise you lots of free stuff for using said app - everyone from McDonalds to Starbucks to your grocery store savings card app to Home Depot/Lowes to Victoria Secret, etc etc - those are 100% data mining apps. Whatever savings you think you're enjoying by using them, those companies have made back a thousand times over by building profiles on you, the specific locations you visit, and your area in general. As the saying goes, "You're not the customer, you're the product."

    1. Don't look at me!   1 year ago

      Anything that’s free isn’t worth having. Apps are free.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

        How much did you pay to make that comment? How much did I pay to read it?

        1. JeremyR   1 year ago

          That's sort of the point. Just by posting here many companies are scraping your data and putting it in a file someplace.

          You didn't pay to read it, but you made money for others.

    2. Rossami   1 year ago

      In fairness, you need to have a gmail account to set up an android device but you can leave it inactive for all other purposes thereafter.

  2. JeremyR   1 year ago

    This is the problem with many libertarians - they love Big Business, even though it's almost as bad as Big Government. And worse, they can influence the government.

    1. Rossami   1 year ago

      Big Business is far from perfect but it has the advantage that it's not inherently coercive. If you think a business' tactics are unreasonable, you have the choice to stop doing business with them. You have no such choice with the government. So yeah, that makes Big Government a lot more worrisome than Big Business.

      1. TJJ2000   1 year ago

        ^THIS^

        Business wouldn't even be collecting all that data if it wasn't for a fascist government paying them to collect it.

  3. Public Entelectual   1 year ago

    Another public service message from The Flubber Foundation of Greater Abilene

  4. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    Of course, she will not pay the ultimate price of privacy; not having her cell phone.

  5. MaverickNH   1 year ago

    The odds of someone with ‘nothing to hide’ getting burned by government’s use of 3rd party data are vanishingly small. We all read about innocent people having crimes pinned on them that they didn’t do by negligent or malicious police and prosecutors, but they are very rare.

    If you are a “high profile” individual by way public exposure in politics, media, business, etc., and/or engaged in criminal acts, such precautions are indeed prudent.

    When I meet someone using an old clamshell phone or uber-privacy apps, I usually tell them that, when government finally comes for me, they will have been in the Gulag for quite some time already.

  6. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

    The thing is do I care if people have my data? Think of it like fast food, these apps are convenient. Is fast food good for me, no. Will the apps collect my data, yes. If I want to be healthier I will skip the convenience of fast food and if I don't want to give my data, I will skip the convenance of using apps. But in the end it is my choice.

    BTW - most fastfood places have apps now, so they are collecting your diet data.

  7. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   1 year ago

    As I understand it Google has benefited from CIA funding at least in the past and that they share data including user data with the CIA and other governmental agencies.

    If this is true, this is very troubling. It would be one thing is the data is made anonymous and combined into metrics that can't be isolated back into individual users data. Of course this would be troubling regardless of the company and not just Google.

  8. Dillinger   1 year ago

    all I do is text friends and play wordle. take that, data miners.

  9. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    Enter...
    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Utah_Data_Center

    Here's some reality. Businesses do not care that much about who/where you are, who you are in contact with. Even their customer recorders are generally erased just to save on storage costs.

    No the culprit here is 100% a fascist government that has [Na]tional So[zi]alized the American Business. All that data collection is done at the request of the Nazi-Empire that has been growing and conquering the USA.

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