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Donald Trump

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Plus: Scammers, smear campaigns, climate suicide, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 2.16.2024 9:30 AM

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Hush, hush: Yesterday, a judge in New York set the first Donald Trump trial date for March 25.

This trial involves alleged hush money payments that the former president paid porn star Stormy Daniels back in 2016 and the falsified business records Trump used to cover up the payments while president. Manhattan District Attorney Alvin L. Bragg is the one bringing the charges in this low-level felony case, the first of several that Trump faces over the coming months.

"And as a matter of raw political optics ahead of Election Day, the hush-money trial going first means a month of intense media attention focused on matters the public may be less troubled by than they would have if the federal election-subversion trial in Washington had gone first, as had been expected," reports The New York Times. The former president plans to stay in New York over the course of the trial, as he will be needed in court, but also to conduct campaign events in the evenings.

Though this will remove him from the campaign trail, he's been interested in attending many of his court proceedings, even those that are not strictly mandatory; political analysts say he sees appearances in court as campaign events, showing how embattled and persecuted he is.

Another crisis at the border: Yesterday, U.S. Border Patrol acting Deputy Chief Joel Martinez was suspended following accusations of misconduct reported by The Washington Post. Martinez was not arrested, and it's unclear what he's being accused of.

Still, this is a P.R. problem for a law enforcement agency already facing extreme scrutiny for its handling, or lack thereof, of the massive migrant influx at the southern border.

Pew polling data released yesterday shows that 78 percent of Americans say the influx at the border constitutes either a "major problem" (32 percent) or a "crisis" (45 percent). But around 70 percent of Republicans describe the overwhelmed border as a "crisis" while only 22 percent of Democrats do the same, so the two parties are not quite agreeing on how to characterize the present situation.

A little less than one-quarter of total respondents say they're worried about migrants straining social services, and similar numbers say they have "security concerns."

Pew reports that "a majority of Americans (57%) say the large number of migrants seeking to enter the country leads to more crime" and "just 18% say the U.S. government is doing a good job dealing with the large number of migrants at the border, while 80% say it is doing a bad job, including 45% who say it is doing a very bad job." (Emphasis theirs.)

No matter the word choice you want to use, cities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden—are souring on the influx while red-state governors deem their migrant-busing stunts a success. Denver officials are telling all other city departments to cut their budgets so the city can accommodate paying for welfare for migrants. Our politics will surely get more toxic as government actors prove, time and time again, that they cannot create order out of present chaos, and as residents of blue cities grow resentful that their public services are being cut to pay for newcomers who have no particular claim to the places they're seeking funds from.


Scenes from New York: In case you missed it, The Cut published an incredible piece about how their personal finance writer (truly!) fell for a scam and gave away $50,000 of her savings, in cash, to a man claiming to be a CIA agent.

This is, naturally, a very New York story, great for some rubbernecking, and the subject is beautifully eviscerated here:

Obviously the best comment on the cut article pic.twitter.com/iROJc7dwLn

— leyla (@leylaaa31) February 16, 2024


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  • This morning, Russian state media announced that Vladimir Putin critic Aleksei A. Navalny has died in prison.
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  • "In the most critical cases, climate anxiety disrupts the ability to function day to day," reports Bloomberg. "Children and young people in this category feel alienation from friends and family, distress when thinking about the future and intrusive thoughts about who will survive, according to Hickman's research. Patients obsessively check for extreme weather, read climate change studies and pursue radical activism. Some, devastatingly, consider suicide as the only solution."
  • "In Munich, [Vice President Kamala] Harris aims to reassure European allies as Trump disparages NATO," reads a recent headline from The New York Times. I'm sorry, but nothing about the bumbling lady cop Harris instills any confidence. Though I appreciate the idea that you can easily dupe the French and Germans, let's not be delusional.
  • Rolling Stone seems quite unhappy that conservative journalist Bethany Mandel is running for school board as a Democrat:

NEW: Bethany Mandel, the controversial right-wing pundit and prolific social media poster, is running for school board — as a Democrat.

Story: https://t.co/r9Xyy0987Q pic.twitter.com/G2VwiNVcYD

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...a judge in New York set the first Donald Trump trial date for March 25.

    I guess maybe we can drag it out into an October Surprise.

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      Didn't they already do this and tossed someone in jail over it? How is this not double jeopardy? Did they invent new interpretations of law just for this persecution?

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        Sure did. He's accused of a slew of felonies because he was covering up an unnamed crime. Can't make this shit up.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        Every single charge so far has been inventing new interpretations of law. Not one hasn't been novel.

    2. SRG2   1 year ago

      The dragging has been done by Trump.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        How so, fascist?

        1. SRG2   1 year ago

          If I were a fascist, you and JesseAz would commonly agree with me.

          1. Sevo   1 year ago

            If you had a brain, you'd realize how infantile you are.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Thanks Shrike. Amazing pee wee herman impression.

          3. R Mac   1 year ago

            Idiot.

          4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            "I'm rubber, yur glue"

            I called you a fascist because you lied about a political prosecution.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Seriously, I can't think of a more fascist response than to complain that a man is delaying a trial by challenging political prosecution.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

        Please elaborate shrike.

        Bragg dropped the case as his primary felony act was a federal felony the DoJ refused to act on. Then he waited until 2 days after Trump announced to restart the case.

        1. SRG2   1 year ago

          Still not shrike, liar.

          All the motions that Trump has filed, and all the appeals likewise serve to delay. And as is clear, much of the time the motions and appeals have no legal merits.

          Delaying tactics, in other words. And see Katyal's tweet.

          Of course in the docs case he's being helped by Cannon.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Bragg dropped the case for 2 years shrike.

            But please go on.

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            You should be flattered, being mistaken for that lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

            What, he should just shoot himself and plead guilty, in that order, so as to not delay?

            All the motions that Trump has filed, and all the appeals likewise serve to delay.

          4. DesigNate   1 year ago

            Or, and hear me out, motions to dismiss and appeals are because this case is 100% unmitigated bullshit (they even many Trump haters acknowledge as such) and never should have been able to be brought in the first place.

          5. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            "All the motions that Trump has filed, and all the appeals likewise serve to delay."

            "WHY IS HE MOUNTING A DEFENSE!!!"

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              The cherry on top is he offers this and then is offended people call him a fascist. How dare Trump's lawyers file appeals and motions.

      3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Offering a defense, using the court system to file appeals that every defendant is allowed to file is dragging this out in your opinion, not following the law and asking for their constitutional rights?

  2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Close the book on the HUNTER BIDEN FAKE SCANDAL!

    FBI informant indicted for lying about Joe and Hunter Biden alleged business dealings

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/politics/2024/02/15/fbi-informant-indicted-alexander-smirnov-hunter-joe-biden/72619924007/

    "Credible witness" is a full time liar.

    #TrumptardsSalty

    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      Who cares about facts or the truth? Narrative is all that matters.

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        Pedo has already been debunked due to his, as per usual, not reading the links he provided.

        You might want to be a bit slower siding with him on things.

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          My point was that whatever that guy lied about will still be viewed as the truth as long as it fits the narrative.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Sarc, if you dont want to look retarded, read an article about the perjury charge. It is over what year he visited Ukraine. Nothing on the substance.

            This is why you look retarded and look like a dem defender.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              "look like a dem defender."

              Ummm...

            2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Pointing out that retards like yourself care more about the narrative than the truth equals defending the people you hate. That's what you call logic. Sure buddy. Whoever taught you the subject needs to be fired.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                You literally just gobbled up Buttplug's own made-up narrative that even the article he supplied didn't make, and here you are claiming "retards like yourself care more about the narrative than the truth".

                Oh-fucking-wow!

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  Now tell us about how the election was stolen, how J6 was justified because of the Floyd riots, how Saint Babbitt was murdered in cold blood, and all the other narratives you push every day.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

                    Oh no, tardo. You’re not going to get to troll your way out of this one by Gish Galloping a list of other outrages.

                    You just advanced a made-up narrative and then claimed “retards care more about the narrative than the truth”. I think you need to wear that a while longer.

                  2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Now this, Sarc, is what's called a "red herring" with a side of "strawman".

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      No, it's listing out some of the stupid narratives that you guys push that are impervious to facts, which was my original point.

                    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      I'll add narratives and facts as words sarc doesn't know to the list.

                    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      No, it's trying to distract from your own dishonesty, Sarckles.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      This discussion was about the arrest of the one informant, you nit. You, and you alone added:

                      Now tell us about how the election was stolen, how J6 was justified because of the Floyd riots, how Saint Babbitt was murdered in cold blood, and all the other narratives you push every day.

                      You love to talk about moving goalposts, yet your goalposts not just have fucking legs, but also wander constantly around the playing field.

                    5. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Says the retards who keep pushing the stolen election narrative, despite there being zero evidence to back their claims.

                    6. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      This discussion was about the arrest of the one informant, you nit.

                      My point was that facts won't change the narratives that you guys push.

                    7. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      When have you ever offered a single fact? You never back up your bald assertions dumdum.

                      This here is a direct example of you ignoring facts to push a narrative.

                      You've denied facts for every major story the last 7 years and still defend yourself calling others who knew the facts conspiracy theorists.

                      You dont care about facts retard.

                    8. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Fact: There is zero evidence that even remotely supports the narrative that the election was stolen.

                      Fact: JesseAz will push the stolen election narrative until the day he dies.

                    9. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Lol. Thats not a fact sarc. That's a narrative. The fact that there are convictions for fraud in 2020 outright proves your fact wrong.

                      Just because you demand evidence only the state controls as the only evidence that you'll accept, doesn't mean there are no facts. There are plenty of facts you willingly ignore dumdum.

                    10. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      None of that proves a damn thing. Like I said before, whoever taught you logic needs to be fired. Go ask for your money back.

                    11. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Sarc, you really are dumb. You can’t get around that.

                      People here have been clear with you, but you always retreat your argument.

                      The government controls the evidence you ask for. They have threatened those trying to get the evidence with criminal charges. Just because the government decided not to pursue doesn’t mean there is no evidence. Double voters, change of address voters, a half dozen judicial decisions regarding illegal election changes, ballot harvesting, etc etc. These are all facts and evidence. You want to deny this and claim the argument is solely if the election was proven to be over turned. This can’t be proven without state involvement and they have made clear they have no interest in the process except to threaten those who are.

                      We have now had 3 elections over turned by judges in the last 2 election cycles that had the same problems as the reason as pointed to in 2020.

                      The biggest narrative and lie, the one you willingly push, is that 2020 was the cleanest election ever. This despite the times article admitting to the fraud and all the evidence above. Despite recent elections overturned with the same fraud.

                      Your entire defense is to trust the state. Youre a fucking fascist. No matter how much the state lies, you demand trust in their 2020 narrative.

                    12. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      And I asked you what rock you would look under next when that evidence doesn't contain the proof you seek.

                    13. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      It is a binary option: election wad clean, election had fraud.

                      You have evidence of the latter. You choose to trust the state.

                      The odd thing here is when elections are questiond the normal response is to poor fraud or prove it was clean. You demand the former and ignore the latter. Instead you say trust the state.

                      Do you think people had solid evidence of fraud committed by 90s Iraq, Iran, Venezuela. China, etc? Do you believe those elections are all clean give just their word?

                      Youre a statist.

                      Even when show evidence of ILLEGAL election changes ruled on by the court, you dont care. Cleanest election ever is the hill you will die on defending the word of the state. Lol.

                      Notice you never bring up any evidence of a clean election. You can't. You solely rely on the word of the state or a narrative of no widespread fraud.

                      A real libertarian would be wary of trusting the word of the state. But not you. Good boy sarc. Trust the state.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                I literally posted the facts of the charge retard. You jumped in as shrikes retarded hype man. Lol.

                1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

                  Here's the indictment.

                  https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media/1338741/dl?inline=&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

              3. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

                "No personal jibes"
                https://reason.com/2024/02/07/elizabeth-warrens-shrinkflation-rant-is-an-incredible-exercise-in-blame-shifting/?comments=true#comment-10434486

            3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              It makes sense that you would think that, being that your primary defense tactic is to attack. But just because you deflect criticism with attacks and consider fallacies to be logical arguments doesn't mean everyone else is equally stupid and dishonest.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                That's been exactly what you've been doing in every post today, hypocrite troll.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                You've offered no substance.

                Please change your name to Shrikes Hype Man.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  "Hypecasmic"

                  1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

                    "Hypecasmic2"

            4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

              Just the year he was in Ukraine, liar?

              Smirnov is accused of falsely claiming executives of Ukrainian energy firm Burisma admitted to him in 2015 and 2016 that they hired Hunter Biden to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems." Hunter Biden was a Burisma board member.

              READ THE FUCKING ARTICLE.

              The entire case is bullshit. Comer is just playing politics and you gullible fools believe him.

              1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                I read the charging sheet. Lol. The primary get is the year retard.

          2. damikesc   1 year ago

            ....even if he is not relevant in the first place?

            Seems like a long shot.

      2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        *Pedophile doesn't read his link again*

        Sarcasmic: "Who cares about facts or the truth? Narrative is all that matters."

        Lol, indeed, Sarcasmic.

      3. JesseAz   1 year ago

        And sarc claims he doesn't fall for dem narratives.

        This was one of many witnesses. They have bank accounts, transfers, emails, photos...

        But you're such a dumb dem at this point you fall for the narrative of the day lol.

        Did you even read the perjury citation? Claim was made in 2018. He said the bribe occurred while Joe was VP. Witness is a long time informant since 2010. The perjury charge rests on him not being in Ukraine prior to 2017, after Biden was VP. So a timeline perjury charge. Nothing on the merits outside of that.

        What a good little Biden sycophant you've become. Lol.

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Yet, Pluggo, as you fail to actually read your posted story (again - quelle surprise):

      Rep. James Comer, R-Ky., chairman of the House Oversight Committee, which has led the investigation into Hunter Biden's business dealings, downplayed Smirnov's indictment, arguing the impeachment inquiry of President Biden is not reliant on information that Smirnov provided to the FBI.

      "It is based on a large record of evidence, including bank records and witness testimony, revealing that Joe Biden knew of and participated in his family’s business dealings," Comer said.

      Your desperation shows.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        So let's try again, Pluggo.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/special-counsel-casts-pre-election-doubt-biden-burisma-bribe-dramatic-airport-arrest

        Last June, the leaked contents of a stonewalled FBI document, form FD-1023, alleging that President Joe Biden was paid $5 million by an executive of Ukrainian natural gas firm Burisma Holdings, where his son Hunter sat on the board, and also received an alleged $5 million.

        Now, as the 2024 election heats up, that source - Alexander Smirnov, 43, has been arrested and charged with lying about the bribes by special counsel David Weiss, who is investigating Hunter Biden.

        According to the indictment, Smirnov lied when he said that Hunter Biden promised to protect Burisma "through his dad, from all kinds of problems," and was only in contact with Burisma executives in 2017, after Biden left office.

        Smirnov is accused of exaggerating his "routine and unextraordinary business contacts with Burisma" into "bribery allegations" against Joe Biden.

        Which raises the question - if Smirnov told the FBI about the alleged bribery in confidence - and had no expectation of a 'leaked' FD-1023 becoming central to Republican investigations, what did he have to gain from lying?

        And why charge him with lying now?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

          DEEP STATE! DERP! BENGHAZI !!! ARGLE BARGLE!!!! 2000 MULES!!!

          AAARRGGGHHHH!!!!!

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Try a little harder next time. You don't sound quite deranged enough.

            1. damikesc   1 year ago

              Is he a SQRSLY sock?

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                He's been this retarded ever since Open Society canned him and he lost his talking points. He was never clever enough to do the job himself.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  He still fools sarc somehow.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    Sarc is easy to fool as Sarc wants to agree with anyone not in the "Mean Girls Clique".

            2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

              You don’t sound quite deranged enough.

              That is how you morons scream about made-up bullshit like stolen elections and fake scandals.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                You literally just posted made-up bullshit, shill. Made-up by you no less because you're too lazy to read past the headline.

              2. Sevo   1 year ago

                turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

                Like in 2016?

          2. Sevo   1 year ago

            turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          3. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            "BENGHAZI !!!"

            You mean, where four guys were killed, and another almost lost his arm? You are a sick fuck.

        2. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Note, Steele has never been charged with perjury.

        3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

          Another question....Why did it take 4+ years for the FBI to figure out their informant, to whom they have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, was lying to them?

          It really makes you wonder what is true, and what is not. I have no doubt that POTUS Biden is amoral, and corrupt AF. And that he is suffering from cognitive decline. But this bribery accusation was apparently bullshit.

          Now there are two good things I can say about POTUS Biden.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            They're really leaning into this "Joe Biden was too senile to actually do anything knowingly malicious" narrative right now.

          2. DesigNate   1 year ago

            I’d bet dollars to donuts he wasn’t lying about the bribery. As much as I despise the FBI, I don’t think they’re THAT incompetent.

          3. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

            ""Another question….Why did it take 4+ years for the FBI to figure out their informant, to whom they have paid hundreds of thousands of dollars, was lying to them?""

            The indictment makes it look like the FBI knew for 13 years that he was unreliable. Depends on their use of the word "admonished."

            ""4. The Defendant was admonished by the Handler that he must
            provide truthful information to the FBI when he first became a CHS in 2010 and on multiple occasions thereafter, including, but not limited to: 10/1/2010, 1/20/2011, 5/17/2011, 9/14/2011, 8/29/2012, 11/28/2012, 4/12/2013, 8/29/2013, 1/22/2014, 7/9/2014, 7/10/2015, 9/29/2016, 9/26/2017, 9/26/2018, 9/27/2019, 3/11/2020, 2/19/2021, 10/28/2021, 10/17/2022 and 9/29/2023. ""

            Admonished could be that they told him to be truthful each time he was used. A notification upfront if you will. If that's correct it looks like he was used 20 times. However, if he is convicted of lying now, all the previous cases should be re-examined.

            I generally think of admonished as being reprimanded. If that's how the word is used, that's a lot of lying.

            Either way, it's another case of the FBI using unscrupulous people as informants.

            Unless, he's not guilty.

            1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

              https://www.justice.gov/sco-weiss/media/1338741/dl?inline=&utm_medium=email&utm_source=govdelivery

        4. Ron   1 year ago

          Its crazy that being wrong of only the date something happened with a democrat gets you charged with a crime, meanwhile while not knowing a time or place gets you 85 million for a false rape claim

      2. DeAnnP   1 year ago

        "Comer said"

        Who gives a fuck what Comer said. How about showing this evidence he has. A huge chunk of his so-called evidence, the testimony of this clown, was just proven to be a lie per the article posted...

        Smirnov is accused of falsely claiming to the FBI that executives of Ukrainian energy firm Burisma admitted to him in 2015 and 2016 that they hired Hunter Biden to “protect us, through his dad, from all kinds of problems." Hunter Biden was a Burisma board member.
        Smirnov made the claim to investigators in June 2020 when Joe Biden was a presidential candidate.

        Prosecutors say Smirnov also lied about Burisma executives telling him they paid $5 million apiece to then-Vice President Joe Biden and Hunter so that Hunter "will take care of all those issues through his dad."

        Smirnov's remarks were a reference to a criminal investigation into Burisma by then-Ukrainian Prosecutor General Viktor Shokin. But in reality, according to Weiss, Smirnov only had contact with executives in 2017, at the end of the Obama-Biden administration and after Shokin had already been fired in February 2016. "In other words," the 37-page indictment reads, Smirnov's involvement with Burisma came when then-Vice President Joe Biden "had no ability to influence U.S. policy and when the Prosecutor General was no longer in office."

    3. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      ""House Oversight Chair James Comer said in a Thursday statement to CNN that his investigation into the president does not revolve around Smirnov or his claims made in the FD-1023 – a form the FBI uses to memorialize information gathered from confidential sources – that Republican legislators have cited.

      “To be clear, the impeachment inquiry is not reliant on the FBI’s FD-1023. It is based on a large record of evidence, including bank records and witness testimony, revealing that Joe Biden knew of and participated in his family’s business dealings,” the Kentucky Republican said.""

      https://edition.cnn.com/2024/02/15/politics/former-fbi-informant-charged-biden-burisma/index.html

  3. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

    how embattled and persecuted he is.

    Nobody likes a victim, unless his name is Trump. He’s The Victim ™. Surprised he hasn’t tried to trademark the word.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

      You doing okay buddy? Youre desperate to make this attack stick somehow. Keep trying. Maybe one day.

      Whats weird is I thought at one point you even admitted the stormy case was lawfare. Guess not.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

        Cry more about how Trump is such a victim. The Victim ™. Poor Trump. Pobrecito.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Is this a valid campaign violation?

          Let's start there.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Waaaaaah!

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Avoiding the question I see.

              Typical. Just narratives and rage typing.

            2. damikesc   1 year ago

              Commenting on the government abusing citizens is whining?

              LIBERTARIAN MOMENT!!!

            3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Spoken by The One True Libertarian® who is also The Victim® around these here parts.

            4. R Mac   1 year ago

              Broke ass drunk.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      Point out how losing a third of your company on a bogus charge by a crooked judge and prosecutor isn't persecution.
      Point out how DA's running billionaire sponsored election campaigns on the promise that their sole job will be to find something to charge and imprison you with isn't persecution.
      Point out which of the charges Trump faces weren't invented just now and have ever been charged against another American in the whole of American history, Sarcasmic.

      See, this is why you're a fascist, Sarcasmic. Because you dismiss and revel in overt political prosecutions like these because you personally hate the man being blatantly persecuted.

      1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

        Do you shed tears for the poor, poor victim? He’s such a victim. There’s never been a more victimized victim in history than poor, poor Trump. Future dictionaries will have his picture next to the word. Heck, Christians are going to change "The Book of Job" to "The Book of Trump." He's such a victim.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Answer the fucking questions, DNC shill.

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Cry more.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              He is just here to have intelligent discussions guys.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                You do your best to prevent that.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Cite? I'll cite mine. This thread. Lol.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    Jesse, you are the single biggest reason why this site has gone downhill. You pick fights with people you don't like, you constantly lie about them, and your repeated links to this site have turned it into more of a Team Red propaganda session. You are a dishonest bully and troll. You should go to breitbart.com and stay there this time.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      The comments now only have two libertarians, jeff and sarc.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      Oh I never claimed to be the One True Libertarian(tm).

                      But there have to be some litmus tests for anyone wishing to declare themselves a libertarian in some meaningful way.

                      And Jesse has revealed himself to be just a Team Red fifty-center. Nothing more.

                    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "Jesse, you are the single biggest reason why this site has gone downhill."

                      No, that would be all you, fifty-center.

                      Tell you what. I'll post a poll tomorrow asking everyone who's been the biggest cancer on this site. You or Jesse.

                      I'm also going to place a bet. 50 - 1 for you.

                    4. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      I didn't say you were the one true libertarian. I said you are one of only two.

        2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Why are you like this?

          1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

            Because I despise people who cheer when people are victimized, unless the person is poor, poor Trump.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Things sarc has cheered for:

              Abortion protestors facing 11 years.
              Ashley Babbitt being killed.
              Rittenhouse being charged.
              J6 non violent protestors.
              Lawfare against conservatives.

              1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                Great example of peddling a narrative, Jesse.

                Because I have not cheered any of those things. Those are just the lies you tell every day.

                1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  Your pathalogical lies are well noted sarc. Please continue to pound the keyboard. Lol.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    lol

                    Boilerplate lies. Zero shame. You should have been a cop.

                  2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    You used to try to back up your lies with quotes and links to things I said, until I started pointing out how stupid and dishonest your interpretations of my words were. So you stopped posting them and just claim that you can prove your lies. Pathetic.

                    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      This is how pathalogical you are sarc. I still provide evidence when asked retard. I just did it for ITL this week.

                      You really do have mental issues.

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Things sarc has cheered for:

                      Abortion protestors facing 11 years.
                      Ashley Babbitt being killed.
                      Rittenhouse being charged.
                      J6 non violent protestors.
                      Lawfare against conservatives.

                      Except you have no proof of those lies. You just repeat them over and over. I see why you do it though. Repeated lies are Truth to Trump's Deranged Supporters.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      The fact you claim you don't mock Babbitt and defend the shooting is fucking hilarious. That's the easiest one to cite as you even now justify the cop shooting blind.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      The fact you claim you don’t mock Babbitt and defend the shooting is fucking hilarious.

                      Mocking Trump's Deranged Supporters for canonizing her as a saint for your Church of Trump is mockery of you, not her.

                    5. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Youre mocking a dead woman killed by the state while defending the cop for doing a blind shoot on an unarmed woman. Full stop.

                      Youre a fucking fascist.

              2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                Man. Didn't even get into Australian covid camps, mask nazis, vaccination, censorship, etc.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  Right. When you ignored what I actually said and argued against things you made up. Sure buddy.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    See, this is why we keep records of your comments, Sarckles. Because you constantly lie about things you said.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  "Australian covid camps, mask nazis, vaccination, censorship, etc."

                  Those are all just government making the rules.

                  1. JesseAz   1 year ago

                    Just acting like refs.

                  2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    "All government rules are exactly the same and equally oppressive." -- BG

                    1. R Mac   1 year ago

                      Hey look, a lie from Lying Jeffy.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      Hey look, it's me using the same technique that others use against me - putting a distortion inside quotes in order to mock me - but this time, Troll Mac decides to call MY use of the technique "a lie", when he has refrained from calling it "a lie" on any of the numerous times that same technique was used against me.

                      Why, it is almost as if Troll Mac uses an accusation of lying as just another insult, thereby devaluing the term and making it meaningless.

                    3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      If it is "a lie" when I do it, then it is "a lie" when everyone else does it too, right Troll Mac?

                    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

                      Because you’re lying right now about what RMac is saying?

                      You’re such an incredible piece of shit, Jeff.

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Any chance that such gross misuse of government power also victimizes us? Or is that OK because Trump is the target?

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Um, have you not conferred with your younger colleagues who have actual college degrees in victim studies (and use their training to perform victim plays and reenactments)?

    4. DesigNate   1 year ago

      It’s not cool to spoof people’s handles.

  4. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    And as a matter of raw political optics ahead of Election Day...

    Raw political optics? How dare they sully this most pure and sacred of justice seeking effort.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Yesterday, U.S. Border Patrol acting Deputy Chief Joel Martinez was suspended following accusations of misconduct...

    Heaven forbid anyone in federal law enforcement conduct himself badly.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Not letting migrants in fast enough.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        And he did not list his pronouns.

    2. Ron   1 year ago

      Ironically the local radio news in Sacramento today said border crossing are down by 50%. just in time for election season. Luckily they admit its seasonal and partly due to what Texas is doing and that Biden has secretly asked Mexico to return to policies that Trump initiated.
      the government admits doing this in hopes the media will focus less attention to the border.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...how their personal finance writer (truly!) fell for a scam and gave away $50,000 of her savings, in cash, to a man claiming to be a CIA agent.

    Journalists just can't stop manufacturing stories these days.

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

      A small price to pay for fame.

    2. MT-Man   1 year ago

      Seems surprising an overpaid position(s) to have just one person of the relationship with 80k in their account writing newspaper articles and the other working for a non profit living in nyc. I guess strike that, it's sad but not surprising.

  7. Sandra (formerly OBL)   1 year ago

    "No matter the word choice you want to use, cities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden—are souring on the influx while red-state governors deem their migrant-busing stunts a success. Denver officials are telling all other city departments to cut their budgets so the city can accommodate paying for welfare for migrants."

    LOL

    Remember when Fiona told us Martha's Vineyard proved the send-them-to-blue-areas approach totally backfired?

    1. Social Justice is neither   1 year ago

      Well yes, totally proved Democrats have no compunction against forcible removal of people (party of Jackson after all) and putting out in the open that there is no principle behind their words just empty rhetoric in the pursuit of power.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        It worked to clean up SanFran for Xi.

    2. Minadin   1 year ago

      Much of the burden? Didn't we have 2 million-ish border hoppers in 2023? How many ended up in New York?

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

      What’s particularly amusing about the Denver situation right now is their neo-yuppie scumbag mayor is talking about hiring the illegals for city positions. What makes it amusing is that activist NGOs for the homeless have been screeching for decades about how unfair it is to do these homeless sweeps, that all these people want is a roof over their head and a job, that they won’t get hired because they’re homeless, and that “this can happen to any of us at any time.” (Spoiler alert: No, it typically happens to people who are drug addicts or fucked in the head, or both)

      So there should already have been a population of “ready to work” peons to fill these positions, living right on Denver’s streets. And what does Johnston do? Talk about hiring illegals to do the jobs the homeless potheads won’t do.

      LOL. LMAO, even.

      1. BYODB   1 year ago

        I love how everyone just walks by the part that says Denver is cutting services to taxpayers in order to pay out more welfare to illegal immigrants.

        The fact they are making those payments to illegal aliens and that is their justification for cutting services is not going to go the way they hope it will.

        Something tells me Denver folks are going to notice what's going on and they aren't going to be happy about it. Especially since it sounds like they're cutting back on parks being open, which is something I wager they won't stand for.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          Something tells me Denver folks are going to notice what’s going on and they aren’t going to be happy about it.

          Nah, Denverites are just as bitch-made as the people in Chicago or New York. They might complain, but they won't actually vote for anyone who could legitimately fix the problem by literally doing the exact opposite of what the Democrats and their activist base propose.

          This malignancy is endemic in the suburbs now, too, and not just the People's Republic of Boulder. Shit, even Highlands Ranch and Centennial are represented by Democrats these days.

          1. BYODB   1 year ago

            Fair enough. I failed to consider that voting for a Republican is a bridge too far for those people no matter what problem they're facing. No doubt they'll just move somewhere else where the illegal immigrants aren't and the city will hollow itself out like so many others.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    No more complaining about paywalls.

    ...but you'll never take. our. WHINGING!

    1. Chinny Chin Chin   1 year ago

      The libertarian's chief weapon is whinging... whinging and fist-shaking.

      Their two weapons are whinging and fist-shaking... and infighting

      Their three weapons are whinging, fist-shaking and infighting... and an almost fanatical devotion to The Donald.

      Their four... no.... Amongst their weaponry are such elements as whinging, fist-shaking...

      I'll come in again.

      1. JFree   1 year ago

        I didn't expect a kind of Spanish Inquisition

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

          Yeah you did, lots of dead Joos

      2. Sevo   1 year ago

        "...I’ll come in again."

        Please fuck off again. And die this time.

      3. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        Not me on The Donald obsession! So you take that back! And I don't obsess over BitCoin like those damn AnCaps!

        *Shakes fist!*

        🙂
        😉

      4. DesigNate   1 year ago

        You were doing fine to your Donald line.

        I’m sorry so many of you were broken by his election. Sad.

        1. Chinny Chin Chin   1 year ago

          Only two posters got offended by the suggestion that libertarians support Trump.

          Sad.

          1. DesigNate   1 year ago

            You didn’t say libertarians supported him, you said they had a fanatical devotion (and yes I’m familiar with the Monty Python skit).

            Personally, I would have gone with fanatical devotion to pedantics, it would have been much more accurate that way.

  9. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   1 year ago

    Gas prices suddenly back on the rise in your area? I have some bad news for you bitches: you better get used to it because it's go to get worse. The Red Sea and the Suez Canal have pretty much been shut down by the Houthis and their Iranian friends, yet another lousy direct result of the shitty, terrible policies and general incompetence for your pathetic senile old "president" and his doodus underlings. Everything's now got to take the long way home, as Supertramp once sang.

    1. Zeb   1 year ago

      Yeah, it was starting to go under $3 around here, but now it's pushing $3.50 again.

      1. rbike   1 year ago

        $2.60 here. It was 2.49

  10. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ARCHIVE.PH, for those who need it.

    For this comment section, two clicks is two clicks too many.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      What have you got against common sense click control?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        The Second Amendment only applies to the single-shot clicker used by 18th century colonists.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      I sent a donation under the assumption that links would be provided, not links to the links!

  11. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    This morning, Russian state media announced that Vladimir Putin critic Aleksei A. Navalny has died in prison.

    Tucker can't catch a break.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Navalny didn't kill himself.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Yeah, not exactly a shock that a CIA asset got Epstein'd.

        The funny thing is that Navalny wasn't some western Current Year simp like Zelensky. He compared illegal immigrants to cockroaches and had no interest in getting the Crimea back, saying that it wasn't a "sausage sandwich to be passed back and forth." But the Nulandites needed a white knight to rally their color revolution around, and like Jamal Kashoggi, Navalny should have known better than to stick his neck out without explicit promises of protection from his handlers.

        Wonder who our blessed security state will pick as the next savior of Russia to make it more amenable to child grooming, Third World mass migration, and western oligarch favor trading.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          I think it’s just as likely the CIA killed him as Putin. Who benefits from his death?

          1. mad.casual   1 year ago

            At this point, if you told me the Ukrainians killed him, I'd ask to see your evidence.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    "I think you're asking for a little more detail than I can give at this moment." -- @sarahkateellis after @ErikWemple asked her to explain what exactly was wrong with Emily Bazelon's story.

    I don't want to live in a world where merely screaming "transphobe!" isn't enough.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   1 year ago

      I'm proud to report that (1) I didn't recognize any of those names, and (2) I felt zero compulsion to look up any of them.

    2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

      What did the NYT say, or do I have to look it up myself?

  13. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    AI assisted or otherwise, there's something so empty about CGI.

    Sounds like someone needs Soave to explain to him the beauty of the Star Wars prequels.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      To be sure...

  14. SRG2   1 year ago

    Tweet from Neal Katyal

    Trump facing a criminal trial on March 25 is significant. To understand, review the bidding.

    First, before Trump was President, he hid his payments (the hush money) to avoid a criminal indictment then.

    Second, he then became President, and said he couldn’t be indicted for his past crimes like the hush money while in office.

    Third, he then committed more serious crimes in office (the Mueller report lists 10), and he said he couldn’t be prosecuted for his crimes as a sitting President while in office.

    Fourth, he then got voted out of office, and so committed even more crimes to try to stay in office (the Jan. 6 charges, some of the most significant charges in the book), and said he couldn’t be prosecuted for them while he was still President.

    Fifth, b/c he couldn't be prosecuted, Congress impeached him and he said he couldn’t be impeached because the only remedy was to prosecute him after he leaves office, not to impeach him.

    Sixth, he then leaves office and he’s prosecuted (as per exactly what his lawyers said could happen to him), and he now says he can’t be prosecuted because he is absolutely immune from prosecution for acts while he was President.

    Seventh, for crimes he committed when he was NOT President (like the New York ones), he is now saying he can’t be prosecuted for those either, b/c he’s he’s a candidate for President again (as his lawyer argued in court today).

    And oh, eighth, he filed a brief in the US Supreme Court today saying because he was not impeached, he can't be convicted.

    What is this? What Constitution on earth would permit this?

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      What is this? What Constitution on earth would permit this?

      The constitution FORBIDS a lot of government actions, yet all levels of government ignore the limitations.

      All the sudden, the Left wants to site the constitution.

      FOAD.

      1. Super Scary   1 year ago

        "All the sudden, the Left wants to site the constitution."

        It's like when atheists quote scripture at the guy standing on the corner with a sandwich board and megaphone.

      2. SRG2   1 year ago

        All the sudden, the Left wants to site [sic] the constitution.

        By implication of your post, the right still doesn't.

        I note you're not actually addressing Katyal's points.

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          "...By implication of your post, the right still doesn’t..."

          I see English isn't your first language. Or perhaps, you're simply an ignoramus.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      ""First, before Trump was President, he hid his payments (the hush money) to avoid a criminal indictment then.""

      What was the crime? Two people agreeing that one will get some money to keep their mouth shut is not a crime. Trump having sex with Stormy wasn't a crime.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        Right. NDAs are perfectly legal. It's only "hush money" when the activity it's concealing is inherently illegal.

        And this prosecution is classic Catch-22. If he'd paid it out of his campaign funds and listed it as a campaign expenditure, he'd likely be called for a misuse of campaign funds. Instead, however, since he paid this out of his own funds and did NOT list it as a campaign expenditure, it's still a campaign finance violation.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          NDAs are a crime when Bad Orange Man does it.

    3. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

      What Constitution on earth would permit this?

      One that protects due process and the rule of law despite Donald Trump's legal claims. The analysis above is stupid, vapid, high school level and you should be ashamed for posting it.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        ""One that protects due process and the rule of law despite Donald Trump’s legal claim"'

        I see a lot of articles about Trump trials where if the judge sides with the defendant, or appears they may side with the defendant, the judge is ridiculed. The judge not obeying all prosecution's request or sides with the defense, it is grounds for dismissal. Articles about scheduling for example suggesting agreeing to the defense motion to delay is an impeachable offense.

        Some people are offended with the very idea that due process and fairness should be applied to Trump.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          Yes. Jack "8-0" Smith with the help of the DC circuit is violating DOJ regulations to rush his novel prosecutions of Trump.
          https://www.lawfaremedia.org/article/the-consequences-of-jack-smith's-rush-to-trial
          Smith’s rush to trial appears to violate Section 9-85.500 of the Justice Department’s Justice Manual, which contains rules and policies that purportedly bind prosecutors, and which the special counsel regulations oblige Smith to follow. Section 9-85.500 reads (with emphasis added):

          "Federal prosecutors and agents may never select the timing of any action, including investigative steps, criminal charges, or statements, for the purpose of affecting any election, or for the purpose of giving an advantage or disadvantage to any candidate or political party. Such a purpose is inconsistent with the Department’s mission and with the Principles of Federal Prosecution. See § 9-27.260. Any action likely to raise an issue or the perception of an issue under this provision requires consultation with the Public Integrity Section, and such action shall not be taken if the Public Integrity Section advises that further consultation is required with the Deputy Attorney General or Attorney General. "

      2. DesigNate   1 year ago

        The Guvnah knows no shame when it comes to posting retarded legal takes about Trump.

    4. Zeb   1 year ago

      Sounds like lawyers doing their job in an adversarial justice system.

      1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        An adversarial system presumes that judges and juries are impartial.

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          What's your point?

          1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

            That we don't really have an adversarial justice system. Court proceedings are two against one.

            1. Zeb   1 year ago

              I don't think that makes it not an adversarial system. It just means it's imperfect, or perhaps broken. Has there ever been a system where at least some judges and juries aren't biased against at least some defendants?

              1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                So maybe the very concept of an "adversarial system" is invalid.

    5. DesigNate   1 year ago

      “to avoid a criminal indictment then.”

      What criminal indictment? No seriously, what was criminal about paying Stormy to keep her whore mouth shut? Isn’t that standard practice when rich people fuck around on their wives?

  15. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

    " Our politics will surely get more toxic as government actors prove, time and time again, that they cannot create order out of present chaos,..."

    Our politics are getting more toxic because there are a powerful group of factions who believe it is in their best interest to not end the chaos in first place. The road we are currently on is not sustainable.

    "...ities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden—are souring on the influx while red-state governors deem their migrant-busing stunts a success."

    Funny, how the progresssives in the cities were blithely pro-unlimited immigration when dealing with the consequences of such a policy was somebody else's problem.

  16. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Why did the Jewish reggae artist Matisyahu have his Arizona shows canceled?

    The tour is called Rastacide.

    1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      The reason was bigotry and antisemitism. Matisyahu is actually a lib, borderline kumbaya peacenik. But has enough of a brain to realize his country is in an existential fight.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Dem Senator wife is leading the cancelation effort.

      https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/2860306/democratic-senators-wife-group-behind-jewish-matisyahus-cancellation/

    3. Stuck in California   1 year ago

      Damn, they totally should have called it this instead of "Paraquat" when the were spraying the pot plants in the 70s.

  17. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    Using the path of least resistance.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_655960f8-cc35-11ee-b50e-235450d616e7.html

    As Texas continues to put up resistance at major illegal crossing points at its border with Mexico, illegal entries have increased in Arizona, California and New Mexico where similar policies are not being implemented, officials in Texas say.

    The U.S.-Mexico border is 1,954 miles long. Texas, which shares the longest border with Mexico of 1,254 miles, or 64% of the total, has historically had the greatest number of illegal border crossings.

    Texas also has the most CBP sectors of any state in the country with five. California and Arizona each have two. New Mexico has none but roughly 40 percent of illegal entries in the El Paso Sector of west Texas are from New Mexico, according to U.S. Customs and Border Protection data. An unknown number of gotaways illegally enter in New Mexico, which has significantly fewer agents in the field due to several factors, officials said.

    Gotways, those who intentionally illegally enter to avoid capture, are estimated to now total over two million nationwide since January 2021, The Center Square has reported.

    In Arizona, in November 2023, Border Patrol agents in the Tucson sector reported 64,637 apprehensions of illegal border crossers; in the Yuma sector, 6,159. In December 2023, apprehensions increased to 80,184 in Tucson and 7,144 in Yuma. Last month, apprehensions dropped to 50,565 in Tucson and 3,735 in Yuma, according to the data.

    In California, in November 2023, Border Patrol agents in the San Diego sector apprehended 31,164 illegal border crossers; in the El Centro sector, 1,787. In December 2023, apprehensions increased to 34,372 in San Diego and 2,222 in El Centro. In January, they dropped to 24,709 and 1,127, respectively.

    How long until Newsom, Hobbs, and Lujan Grisham get pissy about the increases in their states?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Newsom doesn't give a shit because California is so fucking massive, he figures he doesn't have to worry about it anyway, and he wouldn't care besides. Lujan Grisham is one of his pets, and she just imitates what he does.

      Hobbs is a little different becaushe she's already complained about the influx through Arizona and even activated the ANG. But she won't go as far as Abbott has because she doesn't want to lose her status as a potential Senator/Presidential candidate down the line.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Hobbs also has to consider a viable conservative movement in Arizona. Grisham only has to deal with which leftist group is mad at another this month, and occasional shootings by left wing icons.

  18. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    In the most critical cases, climate anxiety disrupts the ability to function day to day...

    It will be years before we can think up another new way to be victimized by Big Oil.

    1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      Feeding children never-ending catastrophism from early childhood might do significant emotional damage is such a big surprise.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago (edited)

        But lots of work for mental health providers, government or private. The fact that these emotional cripples might demand a nanny state is just a bonus. Or maybe that is the main goal.

      2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        And they were already fragile from the Pandemic Maskerade.

      3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Such as "if you don't do what the Bible tells you to do, you will go straight to Hell"?

        1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

          Are you calling climate catastrophism a religion, Jeff?

          And how many young people are feeling this kind of angst about the Bible?

          What an idiot.

    2. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      “Some, devastatingly, consider suicide as the only solution."

      Bug, or feature?

      1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        Yeah, I'm OK with that. We've got lots of Fentanyl.

  19. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    In Munich, [Vice President Kamala] Harris aims to reassure European allies as Trump disparages NATO...

    Hopefully the Vice President doesn't start the endeavor explaining to them what NATO is in the most simplistic language possible.

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      She probably brought Venn diagrams as a visual aid.

      1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

        Which she transported while riding on a yellow school bus. "Who doesn't like a yellow school bus?"

    2. BYODB   1 year ago

      Maybe they sent to her because of her signature 'heels up' maneuver.

      Although, in fairness, an actual prostitute would probably be more attractive.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Rolling Stone seems quite unhappy that conservative journalist Bethany Mandel is running for school board as a Democrat...

    And who thought the gatekeepers were losing steam.

    1. Moonrocks   1 year ago

      If you can't beat them, join them.

  21. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago (edited)

    When you’ve lost MSNBC…

    As testimony played out in Georgia during Fani Willis’ misconduct hearing regarding the Fulton County District Attorney’s affair with her deputy Nathan Wade, it became clear — even to MSNBC legal analyst Caroline Polisi who’s also a frequent guest on CNN — that the Georgia RICO case against former President Donald Trump might be close to completely falling apart.

    “Don’t let the ‘legalese’ fool you,” the legal analyst said on MSNBC Thursday afternoon. “This is epic, this is monumental. If things are going in the direction we think [and] Fani Willis lied to the court, it’s game over for her — she will be disqualified,” Polisi emphasized. If, as the former friend testified, Willis and Wade “had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court, it’s a huge deal,” she said on MSNBC, adding she “can’t overstate” the gravity of the revelation.

    According to a statement Polisi subsequently provided to Mediaite, Willis’ “credibility is completely shot” now. “Willis will be disqualified, which means her entire office is disqualified, which means the case will have to be re-assigned and languish with the PAC [Prosecuting Attorneys’ Council] of Georgia, effectively killing the case.”

    [from Townhall.com]

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      block quote test

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        It worked. For commentary to appear after a blockquote, you have to have text above, prior to your blockquote. It's Reason's screwed up commenting system.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

          Reason needs code buttons with the Comments. I know a few codes by trial and error, such as the italics above and my emojis below, but no others.

          A Koch-funded house organ can do better.
          🙂
          😉

    2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Willis and Wade “had a relationship prior to when they represented to the court, it’s a huge deal,” she said on MSNBC, adding she “can’t overstate” the gravity of the revelation.

      Nothing will happen. Willis is already crying misogyny and racism.

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        I did like her wearing her dress backwards in her court appearance yesterday.

        Hint: Never seen a woman's dress with a zipper on the front.

      2. Jerry B.   1 year ago

        WAPO is making her the beleaguered hero of the story.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2024/02/15/fani-willis-testimony-trump-georgia-trial-hearing/

        1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago (edited)

          She is the prototypical uppity black woman. The only thing missing is a few "Oh no you didn't"s.

          1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

            She speaks loudly and yells and interrupts, but when the attorneys raise their voice to try to break up her tirade, she says, "Do NOT yell at me."

            She's a loon.

            1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

              Black people are NEVER yelling, no matter how loud they get.

              1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                I've got nothing wrong with people who speak at high volumes, but hypocrites are another thing. It's not yelling when they're just matching your volume, Ms. Willis.

            2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

              Every yes or no question produced a 5 minute soliloquy. Her entire testimony was a campaign speech. The judge tried to shut her up initially but basically gave up and let her roll. He sat there looking like he'd rather be anywhere but in that courtroom. Looks to me like Wade and Fani's defense rests on their claim that she always reimbursed him in cash. Untraceable cash payments. Whatever the eventual ruling on the ethics issue I don't see how the judge can let the trial proceed as is. He completely ceded control of the courtroom to the prosecutor not in her official capacity but from the witness stand. Seems to me he has three options here. One. Find no conflict and allow the trial to proceed which will outrage the defendants and a lot of GA elected officials. Two. Request an outside investigator to determine the facts. Three. Find at least the appearance of conflict and force the county to appoint different prosecutors. In any scenario the trial will be at least delayed and potentially derailed. I know nothing about GA law but it seems at some point the state may be forced to intervene.

    3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   1 year ago

      Too local

    4. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      Anyone see any clips from her testimony yesterday? She came off as more than a bit unhinged. Maybe that plays with some people but it’s not a good look when you’re trying to represent that your prosecution of Trump is built in objectivity.

      1. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

        Prosecutors are appalled to be treated the way they treat people.

        1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

          Fani 'The Smasher' Willis did herself no favors on the stand yesterday. I had to chuckle at the meltdown on the stand.

      2. Minadin   1 year ago

        NTB had a decent compilation.

        https://notthebee.com/article/lets-check-out-these-highlights-from-fani-willis-disastrous-testimony-about-her-affair-yesterday

        1. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

          “Mr. Wade is used to women that— as he told me one time— the only thing a woman can do for him is make a sandwich.”

          A cuban?

          1. Minadin   1 year ago

            Nah, ENB hardest hit.

            Apparently they would drive to Chattanooga for lunch (2hrs each way? long lunch) to avoid being recognized, so probably some bbq pulled pork.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Is that all that got pulled?

      3. Zeb   1 year ago

        You'd think they would vet the prosecutors better for a high profile case like this. Or is it deliberate? Are the powers that be really this much of a clown show, or are they just rubbing it in our faces?

        1. DesigNate   1 year ago

          Part rubbing in our face, part didn’t really expect to get him on these charges so they let the clown show unfold.

        2. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

          Objective, rational linear thinking - no
          Individual in control of their environment - no
          Plans for the future - no
          Time viewed as a commodity - no

          Jeb they vetted her, and she isn't a white supremacists.

        3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

          After the wet market bullshit, the inflation reduction act and joe “I wrote the damn crime bill, and if you don’t vote for me you ain’t black” Biden, I’d say the rubbing it in our faces has accelerated exponentially in recent years.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      This is incredibly ironic, because this was actually the best chance they had to get Trump on serious criminal charges. What's been going on in New York has clearly been nothing more than petty left-wing political lawfare specifically targeted to get Trump. The Georgia case is different because there's been so many additional actors involved, although on the surface it's really nothing more than Trump vainly flailing like a CEO who expects politics to operate like a business, where he can direct underlings to follow commands. It wasn't any different from how he operated during his term, in general.

      That Willis blew up her own case just to get her deep-dicking boyfriend on the legal team is one of the elites' more hilarious self-owns I've seen since Hillary blew her 2016 campaign.

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        I kept some of my campaign cash....

        I died laughing at that one. Really? Hello GA Election Commission? Hello GA Tax Authorities? Hello IRS?

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          To be fair, she had previously said she put a ton of her own money into her first campaign. I think she was saying that she converted a lot of her own money into cash during her first campaign. Though even that is still weird. Who keeps that much loose cash around for years on end?

          1. BYODB   1 year ago

            You don't work as a prosecutor without learning the tricks used by the accused. You also learn how they got caught, giving you a blueprint on how to do the same thing without being caught.

            Not that I'm saying she's guilty of anything in particular, but it's enough to make one wonder.

            That said, if she did fund her own campaign that puts her in the exact same hotseat Democrats want Trump to sit in. At least part of the charges against Trump involve what is and what is not an illegal campaign contribution which gets muddy when those campaign funds are actually the personal cash of the candidate in question.

            Something about stones and glass houses.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

              You don’t work as a prosecutor without learning the tricks used by the accused. You also learn how they got caught, giving you a blueprint on how to do the same thing without being caught. Not that I’m saying she’s guilty of anything in particular, but it’s enough to make one wonder.

              This sort of thing is pretty common within the African-American political machine. A big reason that Democrats have been so successful with them is because the Dems fully integrated them into the political patronage system begun by Dem machines in the cities and southern states. Find the local pastors, for example, give them a no-show title or charity as a front, and run money through it in exchange for rallying votes. In return, the pastor gets to skim a huge cut of the funds off the top as “administrative expenses.”

              This grew and eventually solidified during the 70s and 80s with the implementation of civil rights and affirmative action laws that integrated black politicians further into the mainstream. Those politicos owed their seat to the machine, so their efforts in office centered around getting as many government programs implemented as possible, most of which were just taxpayer money laundering operations to line their pockets and those of their relatives and close friends/associates. This is pretty much SOP now with a lot of black NGOs, “community activists,” and various other grifters bellying up to the trough filled for them by their Democratic politician. Willis may not have even known she wasn’t supposed to do that, but if she did, she clearly assumed her political affiliation would give her enough plot armor to not make it matter. That’s why she’s trying to re-direct to the standard “this is what it’s always like for a successful Woman Of Color” shibboleth they always use when caught.

              Typically when they get caught, it's because they were greedy or stupid, and even their own party members can't cover for them anymore.

              It’s a big reason why the few black Republicans are notably outside this patronage system, and why the vast majority of them continue to vote for Democrats, and will go on doing so, despite the fact that, by their own admission, none of the programs or policies they’ve advocated for have actually worked in substance. But they’re great at keeping the ecosystem of marxist activists in clover, and that’s the whole point of it.

              1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

                Great post. Describes the grift far better than I could have.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                If you want to see a microcosm of this in action, just watch what happens when an athlete from the hood gets into the pros. They're immediately expected to buy their mom and/or grandma a house, and act as a "community bank" for their various relatives and hangers-on--such as the numerous "cousins" who come out of the woodwork like cockroaches, who the person has probably never met in their lives, demanding and guilting these athletes into "loans" on shady business ventures that never take off.

                "Look, bro, I jus' need a quick loan of about 20 large to get dis car wash offah da ground. Sheeeit, the bank won't give me da money unless I give dem a fat deposit, gnomesayn? Don' worry, bro, you'll get paid back as soon as things kick off!" and similar begging.

                Or better yet, they're expected to pick up the check on clubbing ventures, buying Cristal and Louis XIII, or they're mocked as being "cheap" and "not rememberin' where dey came from." Guys like Chad Ochocinco who managed to avoid that and save up for their post-sports career by living cheap are quite rare.

          2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

            That was my take too. Don't think you can prove crime here. But I think the hearing proves ethics violations or at least the appearance thereof.

      2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        Their best cases are the Jack Smith DC case and the Florida documents case.

        The Florida case because, despite the selective nature of the prosecution and the political undertones behind it, there's some indisputable facts that Trump can't get around. Not everyone is going to agree that he had declassified those by bringing them out of the White House and a jury is unlikely to accept that reasoning.

        The DC case because they've got a biased judge who hates Trump and wants to see him in prison. And any appeals in that case go through the DC Circuit, which is awful and politically captured. Any jury in that case is going to be comprised of people from DC and it's going to be a very biased jury pool.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

          Good point, and it’s also a big reason that they’re desperately trying to get any kind of verdict in place before the election. If by some weird miracle of fate Trump doesn’t get swamped by the 3 am ballot dump and a bunch of broken pipes at polling places, everyone and their brother knows he’s going to pardon himself the second he takes office. And getting some kind of conviction between the election and the inauguration isn’t going to work, either, because putting the elected president in jail is banana republic shit, and the odds of a civil war kicking off go up rather high after that.

          1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

            The odds of civil war are very high even if he's put behind bars before the election.

            1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

              I disagree on that. Life is still way too comfortable for people to actually take up arms. That sort of thing would get us closer, but it takes a lot more.

              1) Sentencing Trump to prison. Probably only pushes the bar to like 3% of the way to civil war. People will still confidently vote for him even if he's behind bars and trust that he'll just pardon himself. He'd be first former felony elected as President of the US, but people have gone from prison to national leader in other countries.

              2) After Trump is in prison, deep blue states start removing him from the ballot and declaring him ineligible. This is a bit unlikely but it depends on the way the SCOTUS ruling shakes out. They're likely to issue a sufficiently narrow ruling that allows states the wiggle room to try this, and we've seen with gun laws that many states are happy to try to defy the Supreme Court. This can actually be a big deal because it deprives Republican voters in blue states a proper chance to get their voices heard. You'd hear a lot more about counties trying to secede from states. That may push the Civil War Meter up to 6-8%

              3) Trump then gets removed from the ballot in swing states like Pennsylvania, Michigan, Wisconsin, and Arizona. Suddenly it's a major issue and people are concerned about the DNC manipulating elections to try to maintain a permanent Democrat majority. That probably pushes things up to more like 25%.

              4) We'd then need to see a peaceful or mostly-peaceful protest by conservatives that experiences a significant crackdown by state police and the National Guard, probably with people getting injured. It might take another Kent State type situation.

              5) Then some red states would likely find ways to disqualify Biden, and you'd end up with blue protestors in those states suddenly complaining about how unfair the process is.

              And from there it has to snowball.

              1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                Three percent is plenty to cause widespread disruptive unrest.

                1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                  Yeah, three percent can do a hell of a lot of fucking damage. Even after a pandemic that clipped supply chains, these urbanites/suburbanites still have no clue how vulnerable our national and logistical infrastructure systems really are.

                  Remember a while ago when a bunch of random substations were being knocked out of commission? I wouldn't be surprised if that was a group with bad intentions testing the system.

                  1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                    And since then, an unknown number of foreign agents have come across our non-border. We could see angry pro-Trump rebels working in common cause with saboteurs from hostile foreign powers.

  22. JesseAz   1 year ago

    No matter the word choice you want to use, cities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden

    Umm liz... less than half a percent of the burden.

    They have about 5 weeks of current border state crossing numbers. I they have bankrupted communities in Texas and Arizona.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      And any burden is self afflicted. Such as Chicago authorizing another 250M for illegals.

      https://www.foxnews.com/us/illinois-pumping-250m-taxpayer-funds-help-illegal-migrants-chicago

      Border states have been told to suffer the costs for decades.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Add to that Chicago's Mayor BJ ending the ShotSpotter contract which altered police to shots fired in neighborhoods where no one calls 911.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          To be fair, CPD probably wasn't going to clear those murders anyway.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          To be fair, that will save taxpayers money AND provide a self-correcting means to Chicago's worst problem, its own residents.

    2. Krokko   1 year ago

      Liz, I'm not sure how those cities were "tasked" with shouldering the burden; they declared themselves sanctuary cities for immigrants. In "Why We Drive," Matthew Crawford noted something about all of the "we welcome everybody" signs in the fancy neighborhoods of Portland OR, yet the "welcomed" people only seemed to be there to mow lawns.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

        They only said they welcomed everyone, but what you're welcomed to do depends on who you are.

    3. BYODB   1 year ago

      Yeah, I noticed that bit too and it's a real head scratcher. New York City gets a handful of the total and it crushes the biggest city in America and yet the several million other ones are distributed throughout the South and...crickets.

      It's enough to make one wonder if the talking point we used to hear all the time about blue states propping up the welfare systems in red states might have had something to do with illegal immigration after all.

      Guess that talking point will probably crop up again soon as an excuse for how the blue states have actually been shouldering all of this on their own after all.

  23. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Why did the Jewish reggae artist Matisyahu have his Arizona shows canceled?

    Sante Fe is new Mexico. But the Arizona town of Tucson is ran by far left democrats. And democrats tend to be largely antisemetic.

    1. Krokko   1 year ago

      Santa Fe is pretty left too...

      1. BYODB   1 year ago (edited)

        Hyper left, in fact. Was there for Christmas and we couldn’t go even one block without seeing a dozen homeless people in something like six inches of snow.

        Would not recommend a trip there at the moment.

        It was amusing to see so many affluent people driving up to the ski area past people sleeping in the snow though. Very telling.

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          Santa Fe was really nice 15-20 years ago. Even if it was a bit 'artsy-fartsy'.

          1. BYODB   1 year ago

            Yeah, I've been there plenty of times starting around the mid-90's and it was much more pleasant then. I don't think we'll be going back any time soon. The price of staying there is simply not worth it. We can pay the same amount and have a much better experience going...anywhere else.

            1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

              You may not be the roughing it type, but there's so much good camping in New Mexico that it's really a waste of money to get lodging unless the weather is really shitty.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

            It’s basically been a colony of California and DC retirees for the last 25 years. Seriously, everyone who lives there that happens to be white are a bunch of old-ass Boomer lefties. That fat fuck George R.R. Martin lives there, too.

  24. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    One response to the AI CGI thing was "You don't realize how many artists this is going to fuck over".

    When the steam shovel displaced ditch-diggers, I'm sure the ditch diggers complained. When photocopiers and other tech displaced the typing pool, I'm sure the typing pool complained. When robots replaced workers on manufacturing lines, I know the workers unions complained.

    Why should "artists" be exempted from the march of progress?

    I for one, when AI comes for my job, will be all: "Oh, thank god!" (reference: little old man in the oil tank in Waterworld).

    1. Super Scary   1 year ago

      "When the steam shovel displaced ditch-diggers, I’m sure the ditch diggers complained. When photocopiers and other tech displaced the typing pool, I’m sure the typing pool complained. When robots replaced workers on manufacturing lines, I know the workers unions complained."

      And when the cotton gin displaced the slaves, I'm sure the sla-...Well, probably not.

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        I now picture slaves saying "FINALLY, our work is easier!" as overseers whip the high holy living shit out of them for being "uppity"

        1. Eeyore   1 year ago

          At least they never developed climate anxiety. Maybe whipping is the answer.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      "Artists" are always pushed forward by progressives.

      When Nancy Pelosi was pushing Obamacare...

      PELOSI: Think of an economy where people could be an artist or a photographer or, eh, a writer without worrying about keeping their day job in order to have health insurance

      Anytime Universal Basic Income is discussed...

      San Francisco Will Pay Artists $1,000 a Month in Universal Basic Income

      New York is launching the biggest guaranteed income fund for artists in the US, giving 2,400 residents $1,000 per month

      Universal Basic Income Pilot for Artists in Ireland

      Australia should have a universal basic income for artists. Here’s what that could look like

      WTF is special about artists?

      How about my dream of becoming a professional basketball player? Shouldn't I get a UBI and universal healthcare to pursue my dreams?

      The answer is "Hell no", because I'm 5' 10", 58 years old, and I always sucked at basketball. Only an idiot would hand me money for that. If someone sucks at being an "artist"--no one wants to buy their artistic output (paintings, poems, novels, whatever), only an idiot would hand them money for that. Of course, with Democrats and progressives around to world, I repeat myself.

      1. BYODB   1 year ago

        Communist shitholes are often known for their artists, if we're being honest. I can name probably three or four communist muralists that painted utopian visions of a socialist nation.

        Obviously if you weren't one of the guys painting for the regime, you were probably in prison for artistic expression against the regime.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Artists who can support themselves with art are either commercial successes (and then accused of selling out) or have tapped into government funding. My town is full of expensive public "art" that gets funded by required spending bundled with town and state projects.

          1. BYODB   1 year ago

            That's not necessarily true, but it's not wrong to say that's how it usually plays out.

            Banksy is probably an outlier amongst artists. I respect the fact no one really knows who they are and they don't have any obvious profit from any of their work. Hell, for all we know it's a collective and not a singular person. In fact, I suspect that's been the case for a while now.

          2. Zeb   1 year ago

            Lots of people manage to make a livable income doing art. Some might call that selling out, but what's wrong with that?

          3. Eeyore   1 year ago

            Public art is almost always nepotism or corruption.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          I can name probably three or four communist muralists that painted utopian visions of a socialist nation.

          Christ, Diego Rivera is practically their patron saint.

      2. Sevo   1 year ago

        "...WTF is special about artists?..."

        Nothing; if you are an artist, you support yourself through sales of your artwork.
        If you are an "artist", you are a hobbyist and deserve nothing more than a chess-player; go get a job.

      3. Eeyore   1 year ago

        Consider your new job bouncing a ball as a job as a performance artist - then you deserve 1000 a month to pursue your "art".

      4. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        "If someone sucks at being an “artist”–no one wants to buy their artistic output"
        Unless of course their last name is Biden.

      5. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        You know who else was a struggling artist trying to make ends meet....

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Yoko Ono?

        2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago (edited)

          An Austrian...named Mozart?

  25. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    "Some, devastatingly, consider suicide as the only solution."

    I'm shocked, shocked! That a continual barrage of negativity, essentially blaming people for their every exhalation of CO2, could lead to this!? Teaching children growing up that they are a literal blight on the planet, that population must be reduced, that Man is killing everything?

    If I can hazard a guess, I would tend to think that those killing themselves over climate are also young white women, steeped in (obviously) climate alarmism, but probably also DEI and the original sin of being white, along with a host of other progressive mantras. But, I could be wrong.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      The paper doesn't seem to provide demographics. But the gist of it is nicely summarized:

      "This constitutes a clinical dilemma in practice because the climate emergency is not going to recede or be fixed in the near future. It follows, therefore, that eco-anxiety will also continue to increase in response, and any attempt to fix it or remove it in children and young people risks invalidating their fears rather than supporting them. We do of course also need to respond to the distress that is being felt and support children and young people to navigate their distress whilst validating their emotionally healthy and congruent response.

      1. Ersatz   1 year ago

        wait, ...what? validating their emotionally healthy and congruent response of suicide?
        Or did I mis-read?

        1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

          Or maybe they're suggesting "merely" that anxiety is emotionally healthy?

      2. BYODB   1 year ago


        We do of course also need to respond to the distress that is being felt and support children and young people to navigate their distress whilst validating their emotionally healthy and congruent response.

        So, basically, we need to keep them alarmed about the environment but we don't want our fellow travelers to kill themselves because we need foot soldiers to throw more soup at famous art. It's not like people who think the 'climate alarmist' position is ludicrous are going to do it for us!

      3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Who could have predicted that modeling social and intellectual behavior on a distraught 12 year old girl with indulgent, coddling parents would somehow go wrong?

    2. mad.casual   1 year ago

      If I can hazard a guess, I would tend to think that those killing themselves over climate are also young white women, steeped in (obviously) climate alarmism, but probably also DEI and the original sin of being white, along with a host of other progressive mantras. But, I could be wrong.

      You need to read more carefully. If I had to guess, young (white) women who, for decades, have attempted suicide at a rate higher than everyone else while succeeding at a rate lower in a more-than-compensatory fashion are *considering* suicide their only option... again.

      1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        People who want to *commit* suicide use a gun. People who want to *attempt* suicide--perhaps to inject some drama into their lives, perhaps as a cry for help, perhaps because all their friends have *attempted* suicide as well--use methods far more likely to fail (which is what they often really want).

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          Thank god for Fentanyl, then.

      2. Moonrocks   1 year ago

        have attempted suicide at a rate higher than everyone else while succeeding at a rate lower in a more-than-compensatory fashion

        Here's a thought experiment: what would they do if offered a ticket to Canada?

      3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        To put it another way, it seems committing suicide is something man seem to be far better at accomplishing than women.

        "The reported difference in suicide rates for males and females is partially a result of the methods used by each gender. Although females attempt suicide at a higher rate,[11][12] they are more likely to use methods that are less immediately lethal.[9][14][15] Males frequently die by suicide via high mortality actions such as hanging, carbon-monoxide poisoning, and firearms. This is in contrast to females, who tend to rely on drug overdosing.[29] While overdosing can be deadly, it is less immediate and therefore more likely to be caught before death occurs.

        "Some research says that males using deadlier means to die by suicide cannot be the only reason for the gender disparity.[16] One reason for this may be that men who try to commit suicide may have a stronger and more genuine will to end their own lives, while women engage in more "suicidal gestures".[17] Other research suggests that even when men and women use the same methods, men are still more likely to die from them.

        1. BYODB   1 year ago

          Very generally speaking, men attempt suicide to escape life thus they tend to succeed since life itself is what they want to end.

          Women on the other hand often attempt suicide for temporary emotional distress and they aren't very serious about the attempt. It's often some form of attention seeking.

          Sad, but true.

          And they say there is no difference between the sexes, and they are fully interchangeable. Weird.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Um, what about trans-men?

            1. BYODB   1 year ago

              Don't really know, but I'd suspect that their rates of suicide are very high compared to the general population. I'd also suspect that while they probably succeed more than women they probably also fail more than heteronormative men.

              Just a guess though. Frankly, I doubt there's any good data on that anyway given the miniscule population size among that cohort.

        2. mad.casual   1 year ago

          To put it another way, it seems committing suicide is something man seem to be far better at accomplishing than women.

          And to put it another other way, if the people believed suicide was the only rational option, we'd be reading about an increasing number of suicide notes stating that suicide was the only option to address climate change. The fact that we're reading about them considering it, especially after complaining about compulsively checking the weather and surfing for climate updates, strongly indicates it's just attention seeking.

          To the point, once again and iteratively, that academics expose their retarded and irresponsible biases with an article titled "Eco-Anxiety in Children and Young People – A Rational Response, Irreconcilable Despair, or Both?" that doesn't actually list any suicide numbers actually, itself, posits the "rational" arguments in terms of degree of anxiety and potential defense. That is to say, akin to the underlying attention seeking and hype, they say that there's no real defense against the rationalization of *mass* suicide among the critically anxious without any indication of how often or even more or less they do actually suicide or have ideation.

  26. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

    Surprised, sort of, about Alexsei Navalny. RIP.

    Vlad the Russian Impaler strikes again. They are not nice people.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      Must not have been any open upper-story windows in the prison.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        And airplane crashes get too much attention.

        1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          All the planes and helicopters have crashed in Ukraine - - - - - - - - - - - -

      2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        Probably forced the vax on him.

  27. mad.casual   1 year ago

    (And be sure to tip your girl Liz with all that money you're saving from refusing to subscribe to Bloomberg and The New York Times.)

    Uh, is there a place to do this or is it more of a tuck it into your thong sort of situation?

  28. Super Scary   1 year ago (edited)

    “This morning, Russian state media announced that Vladimir Putin critic Aleksei A. Navalny has died in prison.”

    In prison? Or of prison?

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      WITH prison.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Oh, Clinton style.

  29. Sevo   1 year ago

    "...In the most critical cases, climate anxiety disrupts the ability to function day to day," reports Bloomberg. "Children and young people in this category feel alienation from friends and family, distress when thinking about the future and intrusive thoughts about who will survive, according to Hickman's research. Patients obsessively check for extreme weather, read climate change studies and pursue radical activism. Some, devastatingly, consider suicide as the only solution..."

    Get.
    A.
    Life.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      They’ve been brainwashed into this. It’s all over certain public school districts. They’re constantly bombarded with it.

      It’s a cult, and these are victims.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

        If only the Misanthropic Eco-Wackos would just "be the change" and kill themselves instead of brainwashing kids into doing it.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          They have to walk a fine line. The eco-nihilists do not have their own children, so like any chaste cult they need to constantly recruit. But the recruits have to live long enough to attract the next wave.

      2. Sevo   1 year ago

        Remember when the guy on the street corner with "THE WORLD ENDS TOMORROW!!!!" sandwich board was a lame comedic meme? We've come a long way...
        Oh, and a few million suicides among people who hold those views would be a benefit to mankind.

  30. mad.casual   1 year ago

    Terrence Malik's New World made believe in God, this makes me believe in Kaczysnki.

    Holy crap forget empty. Personally, I see this video as vindication for when I get deus exed out of a movie because Godzilla or The Hulk changes size and people act like I'm crazy.

    I can't tell if these people are levitating, are 10 ft. tall, shrinking down to normal size, if everyone around them is 4'6" tall except for the two other Slendermen... it's like trying to pretend an M.C. Escher or Salvador Dali picture looks real.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      >>trying to pretend an M.C. Escher or Salvador Dali picture looks real.

      there's a harmless organic substance for that.

      1. BYODB   1 year ago

        LSD is one helluva drug, let me tell you.

      2. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

        Ambien? Alcohol?

        I think you misunderstand. It would seem that River Page just sees a fairly typical CGI Japanese couple walking down the street, just without soul.

        To me, it looks more like something between this and this, only Japanese.

        I’ve never partaken of LSD but my understanding of it and related compounds is that if hyperawareness and detachment from shared reality are your problem, it’s not the solution you’re looking for.

        Maybe I’m mistaking Page’s use of the word “empty” maybe he means empty like the old-school FPS where if you could slip between the collision boundaries on walls or turn off clipping, you could wander outside the map and see that the internal reality had no substance to it.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          a. shrooms are much milder and come in candy bar form now for dosing simplicity

          b. I was simply helping everyone towards the goal of reality-based Escher & Dali. when you're walking on the Escher steps with the Dali Lion, you'll know ...

  31. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

    ""A little less than one-quarter of total respondents say they're worried about migrants straining social services,""

    High turnover, unmanageable caseloads. It's definitely straining social services.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      They're not worried about it, until right up to the point that it affects them personally. That's what this little social experiment has proven in regards to "sanctuary cities"--that the left is happy to promote dumb policies and ideas until the negative impacts of those idiocies land on their doorstep.

  32. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

    Russian state media announced that Vladimir Putin critic Aleksei A. Navalny has died in prison.

    Pro-Soviet Donald J. Trump envies Vlad and his ways.

    1. Jerry B.   1 year ago

      It’s the Democrats who are emulating Russia, what with try to remove political opponents from the ballot.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   1 year ago

        remove political opponents from the ballot.

        I'm sure you meant "hold accountable for treasonous insurrection".

        1. Sevo   1 year ago

          turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
          But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

        2. DesigNate   1 year ago

          The greens and RFK jr have committed treasonous insurrection?

          (Spoiler alert: nobody seeking the presidency has engaged in insurrection you retarded fuck.)

    2. Sevo   1 year ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

  33. MWAocdoc   1 year ago (edited)

    “… the two parties are not quite agreeing on how to characterize the present situation.” Here’s a clue: nothing could matter less than how partisans view the situation at the border. Surely we can almost all agree, regardless of party affiliation, that the immigration policy (or non-policy) sucks! Anyone who continues to pretend that any government agency can put a stop to illegal immigration is just being silly. Point and laugh at the xenophobes peering out pusillanimously from inside their caves.

    1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Wetback

  34. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>reports The New York Times.

    zzzzzzzzzzzzzz

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      >>And be sure to tip your girl Liz with all that money you're saving from refusing to subscribe to Bloomberg and The New York Times.

      ah I see you think you're doing us a favor lolz.

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Summing up their articles and explaining how to get around their paywalls?

        I didn't need the tip about getting around paywalls but I'm more than happy to pay Liz to put other reporters out of a job.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          if Liz is going to be a slave to subscriptions and drop latent opinions on me every morning via links she can do better than the grey lady

  35. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    Just wondering. How much hooker (and hooker murder) hush money do you think the Kennedy clan has paid in the past century?

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      yabut no prosecutors had concrete evidence those guys diverted campaign funds like Bragg has.

    2. TrickyVic (old school)   1 year ago

      Didn't either the Senate or House have a slush fund for hush money?

      1. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Yes, yes they did.

    3. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      Zero. Dead women tell no tails.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        But it’s not cheap to replace the car that you drove off a bridge.

  36. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>and the falsified business records Trump used to cover up the payments while president.

    alleged. stop taking career advice from Sullum.

  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Pew polling data released yesterday shows that 78 percent of Americans say the influx at the border constitutes either a "major problem" (32 percent) or a "crisis" (45 percent).'

    Cool. Another 5% of crisis votes, and we get to lock the nation down for 2 weeks, right?

    1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Would that flatten the curve?

  38. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Rolling Stone seems quite unhappy that conservative journalist Bethany Mandel is running for school board as a Democrat:

    that's fucking beautiful she may be the first politician I think about considering donating money to.

  39. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    Dear Ms. Cowles:

    'When I’ve told people this story, most of them say the same thing: You don’t seem like the type of person this would happen to. What they mean is that I’m not senile, or hysterical, or a rube.'

    How about two out of three?

  40. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'OpenAI released a text-to-video model, Sora'

    Great. Now what will all the porn stars do?

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      (notthatIcareIhavemme.dillinger)

      "multiple characters with vibrant emotions" will be difficult to combat they'd better hope the human element matters

      1. mad.casual   1 year ago

        "multiple characters with vibrant emotions"

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          hilarious.

  41. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>U.S. Border Patrol acting Deputy Chief Joel Martinez was suspended following accusations of misconduct ... and it's unclear what he's being accused of.

    being in the line of Mayorkas' embarrassment.

  42. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>No matter the word choice you want to use, cities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden

    here's a word choice: Texas please don't think your burgh has taken on more than Texas ... just from the Gang of Eight forward

  43. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>nothing about the bumbling lady cop Harris instills any confidence

    it's a yellow NATO.

  44. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Vladimir Putin critic Aleksei A. Navalny has died in prison.

    I'm on the edge of a good green eggs & polonium bit I'll try to get it across the line ...

  45. TJJ2000   1 year ago

    "Our politics will surely get more toxic as government actors prove, time and time again, that they cannot create order out of present chaos, and as residents of blue cities grow resentful that their public services are being cut to pay for newcomers who have no particular claim to the places they're seeking funds from."

    Well said Liz! About time someone from Reason broke from the Border-less ?nation? bandwagon.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      from No Borders! to NIMBY! ... Reason has it all.

  46. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-ie/news/world/ms-society-defends-staff-who-sacked-90-year-old-volunteer-because-she-asked-what-pronouns-meant-despite-furious-backlash/ar-BB1il1Tm

    MS society fires 90 year old volunteer because she was confused
    by instructions to add her pronouns is correspondence. She wasn't inclusive enough so they excluded her.

    I guess these charities never heard of the Salvation Army backlash.

    1. Minadin   1 year ago

      She literally just asked a work colleague what the 'she/her thing' was all about, and got shit-canned for not knowing, by a recent-grad HR new hire. After 6 decades of volunteering.

      1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        I mean, it’s her own fault, how can she NOT know about this Very Important Current Thing? She was literally killing children by not knowing about pronouns.

      2. BYODB   1 year ago

        How DARE she not be aware of a current-day issue the affects literally hundreds of people when she's working with an organization that...has nothing to do with transgender people.

        Why must everyone include their pronouns when the vast majority, to the tune of hundreds of millions of people, identify as exactly what they present to the world. It's only appropriate for people suffering from gender dysphoria to include theirs, and frankly even that is absurd at face value but at least has a thin veneer of reasonableness.

        Next up: Why don't manic people or people with bi-polar disorder need to add a signature line to their emails describing what their current mood is? In fact, why don't all of us have to do that in order to make them feel more included?

        Just for the record, there are more people with bi-polar disorder in the U.S. than transgender folks. There are more people in the U.S. with bi-polar disorder than transgender folks and people with M.S. combined, too.

        1. DesigNate   1 year ago (edited)

          My wife and I were watching the first episode of South Park with PC Principal the other day. She said we should have ruthlessly beat the shit out of every single pc baby as they tried to shove their shit on society.

          Goddamn I love that woman.

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Jesus. Fucking. Christ.

    3. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      Glad I got to retire before this really took off.
      My normal response to people who try to tell me what I learned in English class is wrong is to bid them 'good day' and walk off.
      It may be bigoted, but I won't waste my time with people who can't live in the real world.

  47. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/world/map-shows-states-most-likely-to-secede/ar-BB1io0fk?ocid=msedgdhp&pc=HCTS&cvid=8ca4248bcc9941fabe00f4165b06403f&ei=60

    Surprising that California is 3rd most likely to secede (29% support for secession, behind Alaska's 36% and Texas 31%).

    This seems like something we ought to encourage, maybe even make it mutual?

  48. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/careers/the-head-of-oklahoma-s-board-of-education-rejoices-after-a-local-elementary-school-principal-resigned-following-hate-induced-bomb-threats/ar-BB1ilbGn

    LibsofTikTok ruins a man's life because he performed as a drag queen.

    1. Dillinger   1 year ago

      libsoftiktok posts others' own material.

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      As mentioned above, Libsoftiktok rarely is posting her own material, she merely reposts things that these people upload themselves.

      I know you are completely clueless on this, but people dont want their kids around weirdos. Maybe he shouldn't have posted his drag videos.

      Adults understand that stuff they post on the internet could very well impact their job. I for example know, that like pretty much every American now, if I went on TikTok and ranted about how DEI is trash, affirmative action is trash, and im tired of having collectivist white guilt thrown at me and my children every day, there is a chance the HR department would have my job if that video was found. So I, like an adult, go do my fucking job and dont broadcast videos to the world about it, and I vote for and push for people in all levels of leadership positions that want all of the above gone as well.

      Consequence culture only supposed to be a thing if someone is on the right?

    3. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      He ruined his own life.

  49. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    But around 70 percent of Republicans describe the overwhelmed border as a "crisis" while only 22 percent of Democrats do the same, so the two parties are not quite agreeing on how to characterize the present situation.

    100% of the 22% are the ones living in Chicago.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      You must be happy. The strategy of busing migrants around the country has resulted in much of the rest of the country becoming as xenophobic as right-wing Republicans. Mission Accomplished!

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        So happy I'm practically beside myself. Who would have thought that being forced to live with the consequences of your ideas would create such a reaction?

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          I mean, that is the ultimate goal here. To make America an unwelcoming place for migrants by making the atmosphere towards migrants so toxic.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            By taking them to the places with people who are (allegedly) more hospitable to them?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

              By doing so, over and over again, such that it becomes a crisis (at least in their minds).

              By forcing those sanctuary cities to choose their scarce resources between citizens and migrants.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                But since it's not a zero sum game then they're not really being forced into that choice, no?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  If migration is permitted to occur naturally, then market forces and market signals have a chance to adjust to changing conditions.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    Wouldn't immigrants naturally want to go to places with people that are more hospitable to them?

                  2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                    The existence of public assistance for the invaders means that "market forces and market signals" won't work. The invaders will go to the places with the most free stuff. Those who have invited them have no right to complain.

                  3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                    Lol. What’s stopping them from “naturally” leaving NY & Chi to go where the “market forces” will make everything all better? Why not just go wherever they were gonna go when they snuck in?

                    There’s too many. And you’re pissed because the sanctuary posers have to deal with some of it. You’re pathetic.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                By forcing those sanctuary cities to choose their scarce resources between citizens and migrants.

                They've gotten maybe 1%, if that, of what Texas has had to deal with, and they're already on their knees, begging for it to stop.
                Turns out Cloward-Piven can go in two directions.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  That was the plan all along. Make the blue states as bigoted as you.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    How do you "make" someone bigoted?

                    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

                      send them to a public funded school in a blue district

                    2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                      Apparently Jeffy thinks the way to make people bigoted is by exposing them to people who are different. I think we used to call that "racism".

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    The blue states are warm and welcoming, as long as it's someone esle's problem. As soon as they experience a small amount of immigration, they turn into bigots.

                  3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                    For someone who peacocks about MUH PRINCIPLZ, you seem rather butt-blasted that your lefty boos aren't living up to their high-minded sanctuary ideals.

              3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

                But immigration is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS net positive, and never has any negative consequences. Why would any place have to choose between citizens and migrants?

                Seriously, you expect border states to just suck it all up, but plop a tiny fraction of the wave into blue cities and its inhuman and evil? What about the scarce resources of border states that they'd prefer to spend only on their citizens and not a few million illegal aliens?

                Fuck you. It's not xenophobic or racist to be unwilling to economically support a welfare state for illegal aliens. There's not need to import poverty that will just suck up more and more of those scarce resources.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  But immigration is ALWAYS ALWAYS ALWAYS net positive, and never has any negative consequences.

                  Why do you keep repeating this strawman? No serious person has ever made this claim. Of course immigration has positives and negatives. It's just that your team ignore the positives and exaggerate the negatives.

                  Seriously, you expect border states to just suck it all up, but plop a tiny fraction of the wave into blue cities and its inhuman and evil? What about the scarce resources of border states that they’d prefer to spend only on their citizens and not a few million illegal aliens?

                  Minnesota has blizzards, California has earthquakes, Kansas has tornadoes, and Florida has hurricanes. I am sure they would prefer to spend their money on things that improve their happiness instead of dealing with natural disasters that they have no control over. So yes I do expect border states to have to deal with the natural result of their geographic location. It is just as unfair for Arizona to spend a disproportionate amount on problems related to migration, as it is for Minnesota to spend a disproportionate amount on problems related to snow.

                  "Oh but migration isn't a natural disaster like a blizzard! We have the power to control migration by controlling the border!" No we don't, really. Not while we try to have a free society. Because it is like the drug war - trying to control migration only leads to the erosion of liberty for all involved, and becomes ultimately futile.

                  Most of the problems and costs associated with migration are created by government itself. Migrants abuse the asylum system because the government's rules for the regular immigration system are so horrifically bad that it is virtually impossible for large numbers of migrants to even make it through the legal system. Migrants work under the table and undercut wages in the legal labor market because the government makes it illegal to work without the correct papers. Same deal for migrants on welfare - it's illegal for them to work. Most of the problems are caused by stupid government rules. But you blame the migrants not the government.

                  It’s not xenophobic or racist to be unwilling to economically support a welfare state for illegal aliens. There’s not need to import poverty that will just suck up more and more of those scarce resources.

                  It is xenophobic and bigoted to ASSUME that immigration = welfare state and immigration = "importing poverty", as you just did.

                  1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

                    Why do you keep repeating this strawman? No serious person has ever made this claim.

                    So you’re admitting the OMB’s claims about all these illegal immigrants taking #1 trillion off the deficit are bullshit?

                    Oh but migration isn’t a natural disaster like a blizzard!

                    LOL, talk about strawmanning an argument.

                    It is xenophobic and bigoted to ASSUME that immigration = welfare state and immigration = “importing poverty”, as you just did.

                    Oh, I’m sorry, are all of these illegals actually bringing upper-middle class lifestyles to the US? Is that why they can afford smartphones and can pay the coyotes $10,000 apiece?

                  2. DesigNate   1 year ago

                    What the fuck? Saying “unwilling to economically support a welfare state for illegal aliens.” is not saying “immigration = welfare state”.

                    What a completely disingenuous way to represent his argument.

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                      The best part was him admitting that Diversity + Proximity = Conflict, even in American's deep blue shitholes.

              4. Minadin   1 year ago

                They took what, 40 illegals to Martha's Vineyard? Scarce resources there.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago (edited)

        The strategy of busing migrants around the country has resulted in much of the rest of the country becoming being revealed as xenophobic as right-wing Republicans.

        1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Xenophobia is not unique to right-wing Republicans.

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            But you said the busing is making the non-republicans more xenophobic. How?

            1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              As I said below, because it creates the impression that those migrants are stealing the resources that citizens are entitled to, and viewing migration as a zero-sum game. If you think migration is a zero-sum game, then of course you'll want you and your team to "win" even if it means the migrants must "lose". One doesn't have to be a Republican to believe that.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                Will being faced with the consequences of their ideas push them to reevaluate their views?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  That's what you want, isn't it? For them to start viewing migrants with suspicion and hostility, like the hardcore MAGA crowd.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    "That’s what you want, isn’t it?"

                    No.

                    Hell, I am sympathetic to immigrants. If I were born in one of these shit-holes, I would want to leave. At the same time the welfare state in the US has to go.

                    But I'm also in favor of these busing so-called stunts. Shouldn't the "sanctuaries" be able to deal with the consequences of their ideas?

              2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                " it creates the impression that those migrants are stealing the resources that citizens are entitled to"

                Is that impression also created in the non border states?

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  That is what I was referring to.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  The above should have said border states.

      3. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        "has resulted in much of the rest of the country becoming as xenophobic"

        Why did it make them xenophobic? You guys promised they were just a boon to society with no negatives? What made them xenophobic?

        Was it spending massive amounts of taxpayer money to feed and house them while crime increased? Was it that? Did that cause the xenophobia?

        You dont have adult positions or ideas, and this is why people wont listen to people like you in the future

  50. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    The Trump playbook in a nutshell:

    1. Do something outrageous
    2. Get blowback/disciplined for it
    3. Cry "victim" for the very predictable reaction to the outrageous behavior

    Here, as exemplified by Josh Schriver:

    https://www.thedailybeast.com/michigan-gop-rep-josh-schriver-doubles-down-on-racist-tweet

  51. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    No matter the word choice you want to use, cities like New York—tasked with shouldering much of the migrant-sheltering burden—are souring on the influx while red-state governors deem their migrant-busing stunts a success

    They are a success, by every conceivable metric, and even the most sharp of public commentators have finally admitted as much. It took fifty... five zero migrants to kick start a national conversation about the costs of open migration, and then it took a rounding error's (yes, I'm sticking with that, math nerds) worth of migrants to a couple of sanctuary political districts to get Democrats to engage in an all out political brawl (and in some cases, an actual physical one) over open borders.

    There has never been a more effective political 'stunt' in my lifetime. IN fact, the ONLY reason Reason(tm) is talking about this because of those stunts. If it weren't for a couple of quick-thinking red state governors, Reason would still be pushing the no-cost proposition to migration, which they've pretty handily abandoned the last couple of years. Especially now that their favorite libertarian governor signed a law saying that illegal immigrants were eligible for welfare, free housing, free healthcare and food stamps.

    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Oh I agree that it has been successful. It has created a much greater perception that those migrants are stealing the resources that citizens are entitled to. I think the chances of Trump's immigration ideas being enacted into law become much greater, even if Trump doesn't win, not because everyone joins the MAGA cult, but because more people become xenophobic and bigoted because of it. They will tend to view migration, like Trump does, as a zero-sum game.

      So yes, congratulations on the success of your little stunt.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        "not because everyone joins the MAGA cult, but because more people become xenophobic and bigoted because of it. They will tend to view migration, like Trump does, as a zero-sum game."

        Grow up and stop resorting to the left's very boring and overdone tactic of hiding behind "muh racism!" when they lose.

        People told you this stuff has consequences, you people pushed the fanciful ideas and magical thinking usually seen in 5 year olds that everything will magically work and there will be no downsides, and then people *gasp* noticed the downsides.

        People aren't awakening to some new sense of MAGA bigotry and xenophobia, they are awakening to the fact that when you say "hey, come here! we will help you out!" they actually have to foot the bill for it at some point. Whether that bill comes literally through taxes, or metaphorically though crowded cities, tent cities, and increased crime.

        There is nothing xenophobic about it, its called being an adult. And the adults told you, over and over. This isnt free, and there are tradeoffs. Its not everyone elses fault for seeing the downsides, it is your fault for very childishly believing in a magical land of no consequences.

        This is a common feature of the left. Marxists throughout time have done this. Believing fanciful things that go against all available data, evidence, and human nature, but convinced it absolutely will work when they try it. The "New Soviet Man" comes to mind. Forget everything we know about how humans act and interact, what drives and motivates them, and all of human nature. No, we can definitely convince people to ignore all of those natural instincts for the cause.

        Its a sign of underdeveloped childish thinking and a lack of the ability to reason and critically think. Usually seen in young activists, but unfortunately, some people never grow out of it Jeffy

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      It was a perfect play, and in terms of game theory, they have shat all over the lefties on this one.

      Sending them to sanctuary cities doesn't cost much. The sanctuary cities claim that no one is illegal and they are happy about them (turns out the virtue signalers are, but the regular people not so much). And they cant make the argument that sending them is illegal or unfair, because according to them borders shouldnt be stopping people from moving where they want and no one is illegal, so if they have stated "yes I want to go to NY" then who are they to stop them.

      They painted themselves into a corner on this one, and the R govs have, for once, grown a set and successfully executed the very obvious check mate. It is completely playing by the rules the left has DEMANDED be in place.

      Its an election year, and there are a few overwhelming polls to consider.

      - The VAST majority think Biden is mentally unfit and should run

      - The VAST majority think Biden is doing a bad job and he has historic disapproval numbers

      - The majority think Trump absolutely kills Biden on the economy

      - The VAST majority think the border situation is either a crisis or a major problem. This is a problem that lands solely at the feet of Biden and the left. The left because they want these policies, but more importantly Biden because his numbers are so much higher compared to both R and D presidents (by many multiples)

      - Truly the only thing the left can hang their hat on is abortion. So long as there are many on the right that want very restrictive (6 weeks or less) or complete ban...regardless of whether you think that position is aligned with your morals, it is a grossly very unpopular position with the American people.

      I think Trump might actually pull it out and win. People have gotten a hefty dose of "adults in charge" and found out these adults have the mental capacity of a handicapped child

  52. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)

    Yup, it was all a con job from the start.

    Step 1: Insist that border security measures must be included in aid to Ukraine, full well knowing that it would make the final product unpalatable to Democrats. Step 2: When Democrats actually produce a compromise bill that does have border security measures, declare it “dead on arrival”. Step 3: When the Ukraine aid bill comes up again, insist that it must have border security measures.

    The point is to stop aid to Ukraine.

    https://www.forbes.com/sites/stuartanderson/2024/02/15/johnson-intended-to-stop-ukraine-aid-not-pass-an-immigration-bill/?sh=227b162b6e86

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Sounds more like the point was to keep shoveling money into the Ukraine furnace.

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      Aid probably needs to be stopped. Or threatened. The fact is this conflict has been dragged on to the point its only on the life support of the US govt funding it, and they are running out of able bodied soldiers. Avg age fighting now in the 40's.

      We blew up the nordstream pipeline to fuck things up, and have not been encouraging negotiations.

      Russia has been shown to be a relative paper tiger at least in terms of a standard boots on the ground military conflict, and many of its resources depleted. Its time to tell Zelensky "hey bud, its over, your done now" and bring this thing to the conclusion that has been all but assured since pretty early into the war. Ukraine gets to still exist, and Russia is probably keeping the little territories it got.

      Time to stop sending our money (and their human capital) into the meat grinder.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        Russia has been shown to be a relative paper tiger at least in terms of a standard boots on the ground military conflict, and many of its resources depleted.

        I wouldn't call them a paper tiger because they're clearly capable of carrying on and adapting in a war of attrition, and their war production is a lot more robust now than it was when the war started. But I will say that it's quite obvious they're in no position to actually threaten NATO, even if China and North Korea restore their munitions stocks for them. It's also obvious that this whole "jillions and gorillions of Russians killed!" is just a coping mechanism straight out of the Vietnam war.

        1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

          Maybe paper tiger was too much hyperbole, but in what would be westward expansion / threatening NATO, Ukraine would be the tutorial level on easy and Russia is lets say, not breezing through it the way everyone (myself included) thought they could. They come out of it looking quite a bit less menacing

    3. DesigNate   1 year ago

      1) the house passed an immigration bill last year. Schumer has sat on it since like May. Because it doesn’t give Democrats what they want.

      2) every bill that has included aid hasn’t been about whatever cockamamie bullshit the talking heads are trying to make you think, they’ve been about shoveling more money into the dumpster fire that is Ukraine. Fuck. That. Shit.

  53. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

    "while red-state governors deem their migrant-busing stunts a success"
    How exactly is offering vulnerable illegal immigrants free passage to sanctuary cities that will not cooperate with federal immigration authorities a "stunt" exactly. If NGOs were doing it Reason would be singing their praises. I know Reason editors don't actually proofread the articles but you could proofread your logic all by yourself Liz.

    1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      "a “stunt” exactly. If NGOs were doing it Reason would be singing their praises."

      And this is why it works. It is following not only the rules the left set, but really their desires as well.

      "OK, so no borders, no illegals, and people can move freely right?"

      "Yes"

      "OK, these people all say they want to go to NY since they will get a free hotel room and VISA cash card"

      I dont see what the problem is.

  54. Dillinger   1 year ago

    hey thanks again for the forum and another awesome week. bon weekend.

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