Why Are Teens Depressed? It's Not Social Media.
Maybe the problem for teens isn't screens, but what they are replacing.

Mali Ward's parents weren't thrilled at the thought of their eldest daughter venturing into social media. Now 17, Ward had to lobby for access to Snapchat during her freshman year of high school. "I had to convince my parents about that, with a whole slideshow and everything," she recalls.
After she made the case that she should be able to use the app to share silly pictures with her friends, her parents relented. Snapchat turned out to be a blessing. This was fall 2020. Ward had just started making friends at her new school in Brookfield, Wisconsin, when her family members—including five siblings—got COVID-19, one by one. The entire household was quarantined for weeks.
"I couldn't see anyone," she says. "It was scary, especially since I'd only been in school for a month." But "Snapchat made it a lot easier to talk to people, including people I had just met. Without that, I wouldn't have been able to talk to them at all."
Snapchat is seldom the hero in stories about teens and emotions, but I keep thinking of Ward's experience as I read headlines about social media and what people have been calling the teen mental health crisis. Rates of anxiety and depression have seemingly risen for adolescents since 2009. According to the National Survey on Drug Use and Health, rates of adolescent depression have risen from 8.1 percent in 2009 to 15.8 percent in 2019; there is some evidence of a further rise during the pandemic. The suicide rate among Americans aged 10–24 increased from 6.8 per 100,000 in 2007 to 10.7 in 2018.
On some dimensions, of course, teens are doing much better than in the past. According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the teen pregnancy rate declined by 67 percent from 2007 to 2022. (This is a further decline since the peak in the early 1990s.) Since 1991, the rate of drunk driving fatalities per 100,000 Americans has decreased 70 percent for those under age 21. Youth arrests for violent crime are down by 78 percent since 1994. High school graduation rates have gone up over the past two decades.
But those suicide, anxiety, and depression numbers are worrying, and so people look for explanations. What else has shifted over the last two decades? One obvious change: Social media use has skyrocketed since Facebook's launch in 2004. Any adult with a Facebook or Twitter account knows these platforms are often rife with insults and with highly edited versions of other people's lives. These new forms of communication seem like potential culprits.
The past few years have seen a flurry of proposed regulations. Utah, for instance, passed a law in 2023 (taking effect in 2024) requiring social media platforms to verify state residents' ages and to get parental consent before letting children open accounts; it will also ban platforms from targeting ads at kids. Related legislation has been proposed in other states, and a federal bill would enact a minimum age of 16 for using social media.
Are social media companies in fact to blame for the rising numbers? The surgeon general's report on the topic, released in May 2023, produced headlines such as NBC's "Social media is driving the teen mental health crisis, surgeon general warns." In fact, the report said, "We do not yet have enough evidence to determine if social media is sufficiently safe for children and adolescents." That's a far cry from straight-up cause and effect.
The surgeon general's report did helpfully pull together the best existing research on what turns out to be a complicated question. The literature certainly does raise concerns. One longitudinal study found that adolescents who spent more than 3 hours a day on social media faced double the risk of experiencing poor mental health outcomes. Another study looked at what happened when Facebook was rolled out at different college campuses in 2004–2006. It found a 9 percent increase over baseline in depression and a 12 percent increase in anxiety once Facebook came to town.
But the research is not so clear-cut. Human beings are complicated. "Social media" platforms are a broad and changing category, but they are fundamentally forms of communication. Communication can be good (as it was during Ward's COVID crisis), can be bad, and, in most cases, can be something in between. Most of the material on platforms like Snapchat is less edifying than Leo Tolstoy. But as University of California, Irvine, psychologist Candice Odgers once put it, "You can hate social media, but it is not the case that it is driving teen suicide, depression, and anxiety."
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If social media and mental health challenges are linked, one obvious question is what the mechanism linking them would be. What is it about going on 2005 Facebook, or 2023 TikTok, that would make some portion of people feel sad or anxious?
There are several possibilities. One common complaint, despite the apps' diverse formats, is that heavily edited photos and videos glorify unrealistic body shapes and sizes. Another is that people's tendency to post their life highlights makes normal life feel drab by comparison. Content might expose vulnerable people to ideas of self-harm that hadn't occurred to them. More broadly, social media apps allow adolescents to see what other people are saying about them in a way that was harder for bullies to pull off when teen communication was offline. If popularity is quantified via followers and likes, people with fewer followers and likes will feel less popular.
Young people themselves often have mixed feelings about these aspects of social media. Marisa Vanness, now a medical student in her mid-20s, eagerly joined Facebook as a teenager. She lived in a rural area, "probably 40 minutes away from my closest friends." Social media allowed her to connect, but looking back she realizes that she "was too malleable to what other people were thinking or saying about me. I could have gotten into hot water about that. Luckily I didn't," but "it's really hard to build confidence when everyone seems like they're beautiful and talented on those apps."
Some small studies have found that turning off social media improves people's mental states. According to the surgeon general's report, one randomized controlled trial found that limiting college kids' social media use to 30 minutes daily for three weeks "led to significant improvements in depression severity. This effect was particularly large for those with high baseline levels of depression who saw an improvement in depression scores by more than 35 percent."
On the other hand, a study from the Oxford Internet Institute, looking at data from nearly a million Facebook users in 72 countries, found that Facebook's spread from 2008 to 2019 was slightly positively correlated with well-being.
Surveys can be read in multiple ways, too. While the surgeon general's report highlights a survey finding that 46 percent of adolescents said social media made them feel worse about their bodies, that same survey noted that 40 percent said it made them feel neither better nor worse—and 14 percent said it made them feel better. (There are often more diverse depictions of beauty online than in magazines where everyone is thin and white.) A plurality felt worse, but a majority did not. Different readers will draw different conclusions from that.
In other words, the links between social media and well-being are complex. Part of the complexity is that social media are so ubiquitous. As The Art of Screen Time author Anya Kamenetz notes, "Every child uses social media and not every child has a mental health problem."
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It isn't literally every child, but it's a lot of them. In a Pew Research Center survey conducted in 2022, 95 percent of teens said they watch YouTube, 77 percent of them daily, though this is often a matter of watching fairly professionally produced content rather than interacting with peers. About half of teens use Snapchat and Instagram daily, with a slightly higher percentage checking TikTok each day. For all of Facebook's bad press, few teens use it anymore: According to the Pew survey, Facebook use among teenagers dropped from 71 percent in 2014–15 to 32 percent in 2022, and only 19 percent of teens now say they use it daily. As I write, BeReal is buzzy, but that could change before this article is published.
Various apps also differ from each other. No one suggests LinkedIn is causing a mental health crisis, though some job-hunting young people use it.
Teens in general have a lot of discretionary time, and some teens have copious quantities of it. Electronic distractions, including social media, fill this time quite well.
Every year, the Bureau of Labor Statistics' American Time Use Survey (ATUS) asks thousands of Americans, age 15 and up, to recount how they spent "yesterday," rolling through all the days of the year. In 2022, Americans aged 15–19 averaged 5.67 hours of leisure time daily. Of this, 1.96 hours were spent watching television, and 1.64 hours on computer-based leisure, producing a total of 3.6 hours of daily screen time. This would include weekends, holidays, and the summer, but a 2019 Pew Research Center analysis of the ATUS data for 15- to 17-year-olds, looking only at the school year, found they still managed 3 hours and 4 minutes per day of screen time. I suspect this is actually an undercount, given that some portion of screen time comes in tiny chunks of time—say, 5 minutes while waiting for the car pool to show up—that wouldn't even register consciously.
I see this with my own five children. They are in all the sports and music ensembles that suburban family life requires, and they have annoying parents who confiscate their devices every night, yet they still manage to log impressive quantities of screen time. On a recent Thursday, one teenaged child had early-morning jazz band practice from 7:20–8:00 a.m., had the regular school day from 8:15 a.m. to 3:05 p.m., and then had an after-school technology competition club until 4:20 p.m., at which point I picked him up, got him dinner on the road, and delivered him to fencing practice (5:00–7:00 p.m.). He was home at 7:30 p.m. But because he had done his homework during study hall and class downtime, he was able to score 90 minutes of video games before our household 9:00 p.m. in-room-with-no-devices curfew. Plus, I saw him watching videos on his phone in the car.
Plenty of other days featured more screen time.
As with much in life, teens who have involved parents and well-functioning communities have more positive nonscreen options for their nonschool, nonsleeping hours. Multiple surveys found household income inversely correlated with child and teen screen time. Someone who is working too many jobs to drive kids to early-morning jazz band practice, and who is living in a not-so-great neighborhood, might rightly believe having a kid at home playing video games or watching YouTube videos is the least bad option. I can certainly think of much worse options. A recent New York Times article profiled a 14-year-old migrant child injured while working in a slaughterhouse. "TikTok is not that kid's biggest problem," says Devorah Heitner, author of Screenwise and Growing Up in Public. "I wish that kid was on TikTok learning dances."
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Whatever kind of downtime kids have, social media fits this downtime well—as it does for adults. Despite shuttling children all over the planet, I too manage to log three or more hours on my phone per day, and not all of it is email, Google Maps, or wholesome NPR podcasts. Scrolling around on Instagram takes zero effort. You don't have to plan ahead, as you do with getting together in person. For many people, it fits the niche that television would have.
Sebastian Schipman, a 21-year-old graduate from Colorado State University, says he doesn't "know anyone who's necessarily been bullied or whose life took a downward spiral" as a result of social media. But, he adds, "It's kind of an easy way to sit in bed and do nothing all day."
Human beings have always liked having do-nothing time. Our do-nothing time has just gotten more interesting since we were staring at cave walls.
Some young people might encounter material online that sends them into a downward spiral. The internet has plenty of racism, sexism, and just generally antisocial behavior, like TikTok challenges that encourage vandalism. But human beings in community can do good things too. Benjamin Kaveladze, a psychologist whose doctoral research investigated online communities, notes that "some people will feel totally alone in their in-person community, but you can find a million people just like you online." For young people with disabilities, or who are the only person of their racial background at their school, or who are LGBTQ, social media connections can be a lifeline.
If you're facing a mental health challenge, you can find people like you too—and maybe some tips on how to manage. "A lot of people don't find much interest in talking to a professional mental health counselor, or aren't able to access one," Kaveladze says. If other people coping with anxiety offer resources, "there's something beautiful about that kind of online community."
In other words, social media platforms are a lot like the in-person world. "It is the meeting place," says Kamenetz. "It is the place where [young people] hang out. It's kind of like the mall. Does the mall cause depression and anxiety? Well, it depends what they are doing at the mall."
That's not to say that this digital mall needs to be a total free-for-all. Parents who are concerned about social media should monitor how much time their kids are spending there and what sorts of things they're doing. But in general, people who are fine will be fine. "Your kid who has a great life isn't going to get on Instagram and destroy that great life," says Heitner.
Mali Ward keeps herself busy enough with her swim team and studying that her screen time is naturally limited. Not all her friends have those built-in barriers. ("I have friends who are on screens for 8 hours a day.") Vanness, the medical student, argues that "anyone who has a good foundation, whose parents are teaching them healthy habits, isn't going to be as impacted as much as people who don't have as good habits, and who don't have as strong a sense of self." But this is the unfairness of life in general. A kid with a supportive family and a well-structured life is more likely to hit the gym for an hour when he's feeling bad about something he saw online (or in real life). A kid without all that might wallow. But those kids might have wallowed before social media too.
If social media's links to depression and anxiety aren't clear-cut, why are the latter's rates rising? There are no doubt many reasons, particularly in the pandemic years. One intriguing 2023 study in The Journal of Pediatrics suggested that a decline in independent activity and play over the last 50 years (with a corresponding decline in chances to develop self-regulation) has been harmful to children's mental health. The study's authors suggest that this change predates the rise of social media.
We may also be seeing more diagnoses of mental health conditions as people become more comfortable talking about them (perhaps because they see them discussed on social media). More knowledge may mean that fewer kids are willing to suffer in silence—and that more marginal cases are diagnosed (some studies have found that not everyone being treated for depression meets the clinical definition).
If there is a link between screen time in general and mental health problems, the chief culprit might not be the content of social media so much as the displacement. A day has only 24 hours, so time spent on one thing is time not spent on something else. As screen-based entertainment in all forms becomes more interesting, people may spend slightly less time on such known mood-boosters as being outside and physical activity.
"You really can't ban technology. It will find a way," says parenting expert Katherine Reynolds Lewis, the author of The Good News About Bad Behavior. "You're always playing catch-up as a government regulator, or even as a parent to be honest."
In the meantime, "adolescents need a world that's separate and mysterious to adults." Though that world probably won't be Facebook—the old people have taken that one over.
This article originally appeared in print under the headline "All the Sad Young Things."
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Someone explain to me how children's interacting electronically is supposed to be more dangerous than their doing so in person.
Misinformation! It spreads so much more dangerously.
That's why we demand government censorship. Right-thinking people would rather not hear disagreeable and subversive ideas. Democracy is so much safer when Big Brother knows what we think.
And perhaps we should supplement online oversight with in-person political speech officers, like the old USSR and GDR did.
"Democracy is so much safer when Big Brother knows what we think."
*Double-checks to see if the post was written by Jeff*
Numbers. Many more interactions means many more will be be negative.
Which is no problem if the child has the self esteem, real self esteem not the false everyone gets a trophy esteem, to tell the nasty fuckers to go off and perform impossible sex acts with themselves.
The problem is when the kid doesn't have real self esteem from real accomplishments. I don't mean top scores on video games but real world acplushments with measured and real praise for those accomplishments.
Of course that requires actual parenting of a child instead of leaving the schools and social workers to instill false self esteem.
IDK, obviously kids with well-founded self-esteem are more resilient, but I think even they can have an extremely difficult time with some of the pervasive and relentless social media bullying that goes on. I’ve seen some really intense humiliation campaigns among preteens and teens. And now with image and video editing technologies becoming better and more accessible, some of it gets really horrible. Especially when they are confined to school with those people every day.
Yes, they can. No doubt, when half your class is calling you names in unison while the teachers stand by and do nothing it hurts. Not as much as if they were throwing rocks, which the fucking teachers wouldn't stop either.
A good relationship between parents and child can help a lot. At least to reinforce that they have the kids back and are willing to talk to a teacher if need be. If the school is unresponsive it's time to consider other schooling options.
Again, if people aren't willing to do do the hard work of parenting and let the school do as it will they should have gotten a dog. Bad parents make bad kids.
Yes
Default on snapchat is to share your physical location with users.
The current dominant cultural zeitgeist in the English speaking world is that of teenage girl bullies. It's amplified online.
But I think that the anti-heterosexual alphabet sex cult indoctrination, anti-"white" CRT teachings, and the anti-human climate apocalypse gaslighting they're indoctrinated into in schools is what really feeds their despair.
Western elementary and middle schools are literally telling the majority of children that they are born evil and are responsible for every bad thing that happened in history, there's no redemption but you must still live in penitence, and the world is ending unless you die or impoverish yourself.
Who wouldn't want to kill themselves?
Western elementary and middle schools are literally telling the majority of children that they are born evil and are responsible for every bad thing that happened in history, there’s no redemption but you must still live in penitence, and the world is ending unless you die or impoverish yourself.
And the flip side is that they tell minority students that the world hates them, that the system is unfair, it's stacked against them, and they're unlikely to succeed. There's nothing they can do about it and if they try too hard to succeed they're adhering to white supremacist cultural norms. Their choices are to fail, or else become tools for the white supremacists.
But then we can't figure out what's making so many kids in school so depressed.
"Western elementary and middle schools are literally telling the majority of children "
The article suggests that separation from schools such as quarantine results in depression. Not going to school and being exposed to the school's lessons. And if the school's anti-white and anti-homosexual teachings were the problem, presumably they'd affect whites and heterosexuals more than others. The statistics don't seem to bear that out. Your theory doesn't seem to hold much water. It does press the appropriate white heterosexual victimhood buttons, so there's that.
Maybe RMac's right and you really are a parody.
They weren't physically at schools during the pandemic but they certainly were still getting gaslit during online lessons. Your indoctrination sessions didn't stop.
Also, the statistics DO bare that out, you dishonest fuck. But even if they didn't, as A Thinking Mind points out immediately above:
"the flip side is that they tell minority students that the world hates them, that the system is unfair, it’s stacked against them, and they’re unlikely to succeed. There’s nothing they can do about it and if they try too hard to succeed they’re adhering to white supremacist cultural norms. Their choices are to fail, or else become tools for the white supremacists."
"They weren’t physically at schools during the pandemic but they certainly were still getting gaslit during online lessons."
I doubt that being gaslit online at home is more effective in causing depression among white heterosexual students than being gaslit in the classroom at school. It's just another just so story - a tale to boost a spurious 'scientific' narrative without any evidence.
"Also, the statistics DO bare that out, you dishonest fuck."
What statistics? I doubt there are any statistics showing the pandemic was harder on white heterosexuals than others. If you know of any, please provide a link.
"Their choices are to fail, or else become tools for the white supremacists."
They are being offered another choice. To radicalize and join up with groups like antifa, blm, queers for Palestine, etc. and fight the power.
"I doubt that being gaslit online at home is more effective in causing depression among white heterosexual students than being gaslit in the classroom at school."
That's right retard. Authority figures telling kids on Microsoft Teams that they're evil won't do anything to their psyches.
"What statistics? I doubt there are any statistics showing the pandemic was harder on white heterosexuals than others."
The statistics you alluded to just two posts above, retard. Sarcasmic's memory lapses seem to be catching: mtrueman - "The statistics don’t seem to bear that out."
"If you know of any, please provide a link."
So you said the "statistics don’t seem to bear that out" and then you deny they exist and demand a link. You're like a fucking cartoon.
"They are being offered another choice. To radicalize and join up with groups like antifa, blm, queers for Palestine, etc. and fight the power."
They're not fighting any "Power". They're gaslit tools of the power attacking the plebs and the working class the "power" wishes to disenfranchise. The elites present themselves as anti-fascist and anti-racist, but this is merely a way of defending their class interests.
Thomas Sowell - "Our children and grandchildren may yet curse the day we began hyping race and ethnicity.
There are countries where that has led to slaughters in the streets, but you cannot name a country where it has led to greater harmony."
"That’s right retard. Authority figures telling kids on Microsoft Teams that they’re evil won’t do anything to their psyches."
In that case you shouldn't have any trouble giving us the evidence to back up your claims. But all you have to offer is insults and bluster.
"The statistics you alluded to just two posts above, retard."
The statistics I was referring to are in the article. They make no mention of white heterosexual victimhood. That's your hobby horse. And again, no evidence from you to back up your claims, just more bluster and insults.
"So you said the “statistics don’t seem to bear that out” and then you deny they exist and demand a link. "
The statistics I referred to were in the article. You made claims about race and sexuality that went beyond anything in the article. I understand you have no statistics. It's only a just so story, and no evidence exists, only a narrative of victimhood that you find so enthralling.
"They’re not fighting any “Power”.
I believe they will, eventually. You'd be surprised what people will do on an empty stomach. They will turn on the elites. Any study of social upheaval will likely show this. Once people understand they have nothing to lose, they will fight the power.
"Our children and grandchildren may yet curse the day we began hyping race and ethnicity."
Race and ethnicity have been hyped since the get go and I've cursed it since I can remember. Haven't you? You're waiting for your children to curse it?
The teenage girl bully meme compliments the teenage girl victim ideal. For decades we have tolerated if not encouraged young people to use the emotional reasoning of distraught tweens, in favor of more mature perspectives. In fact, we have told them that feelings are superior to facts and logic. And we have reinforced their beliefs that the universe revolves around them.
"Western elementary and middle schools are literally telling the majority of children that they are born evil and are responsible for every bad thing that happened in history, there’s no redemption but you must still live in penitence, and the world is ending unless you die or impoverish yourself."
How is that significantly different from what churches have told people for centuries? Original sin, requiring redemption through prayer and sacrifice.
That's been a constant.
The difference was that redemption was freely available and atonement was already done and was not the result of something you had to do yourself. The medieval Catholic church subverted it somewhat with the doctrine that works were evidence of faith, but the Reformation largely got rid of that.
In Wokianity there is no redemption, and atonement is only achievable through works and penitence, and even then there's no forgiveness of sins.
But you're correct in identifying Wokianity as a pseudo-Christian cult. Just one without forgiveness and mercy.
My point is we've been pressuring kids with all manner of guilt and shame for their sins for centuries. Suicide and depression weren't major problems then. Why does that change now?
The capacity for forgiveness if you follow all the rules and dictates isn't that different from the Woke. You have to be a Christian to get your forgiveness. Non Christians need not apply for forgiveness. You must join the cult. Same as Woke. If you don't become the woke you won't get the forgiveness of the woke. If you aren't woke you are an athiest screaming at the doors of the church.
Woke preys on a lack of real self esteem. It preys on kids whose parents don't spend time with them. Parents too busy on their phones or having their own lives to notice their kid is slipping toward the kind of low self esteem and depression the Church of Woke preys on. Woke is a symptom, not the disease.
Dr. Jordan Peterson talks about the importance of a child's relationship with their father. When you see a boy in a skirt speaking in falsetto I guarantee that kid has a shit relationship with his dad and it's his dad's fault.
When parents bitch that their kids don't go outside they do it from the couch with a phone in their hands and a dim blue glow illuminating their faces. Try going outside with your kids. It will do wonders.
“You have to be a Christian to get your forgiveness. Non Christians need not apply for forgiveness. You must join the cult.”
Well no. The doctrine is that forgiveness is already freely offered to absolutely everyone regardless of who they are and what they did, because Christ already paid the penalty for the entirety of humanity. You just have to accept it. Accepting the forgiveness is what makes you a Christian. Different sects will sometimes add additional considerations, but this is the core doctrine. This is basic stuff about the major foundation of Western culture.
“Woke preys on a lack of real self esteem.”
Absolutely. That’s why they valorize the fringe and villify the normal.
“Dr. Jordan Peterson talks about the importance of a child’s relationship with their father.”
Yes. Which is why fatherhood has been under attack.
"Under attack" is just another excuse. Did a single mom get left after she was knocked up because fatherhood is under attack or because the guy was a peice of shit with a bad relationship with his father? For that matter did the woman spread her legs for that lout because fatherhood is under attack or because she has a bad relationship with her father too?
I'm everything the conservatives hate. I'm an athiest, an anarchist, a drug user, a convicted drug dealer, a non spanking parent... the list goes on. My relationship with my father sucked, he wanted sons so he could work them like Mexicans on the farm. My wife's father beat her. We have every excuse possible to have been horrible parents. Yet in the face of all that I simply ignored the people who filled the media with shit images of fathers and painted then as unnecessary. I just took responsibility for my son. My wife took responsibility as well. We took the job seriously. That's all it takes.
Like Bill Cosby said before he was accused of rape and shunned, black men need to pull up their pants and be fathers to their children. Whites are not responsible for black men running out on their kids. It's just more excuses to not man up and do the job.
'Course, a real God could forgive without commiting deicide/suicide/filacide not to mention create a world either without sin or sin-resistant, right?
🙂
😉
Suicide and depression weren’t major problems then. Why does that change now?
Well, I think there’s a bigger spotlight on it because there’s generally more information and a bigger thirst for stories. I don’t know how much greater the actual rates of depression and suicide are, but I do know that there’s presently a lot of money to be made selling SSRIs.
Maybe it’s a relatively recent phenomenon, globally. But that’s probably because secure, safe societies are relatively recent as well. So it might have something to do with the conditions of not giving children meaningful things to do and instead filling their lives with busy work, giving them more of a feeling of detachment from society. In a harsher world they wouldn’t have the luxury of useless idleness, but we’d probably have bigger concerns than tracking the suicide rates.
Just as a random interjection, suicide rates of active duty soldiers in the US tend to spike during peacetime. It’s actually lower when there’s an ongoing war; though things are certainly trending higher in this modern period of kind-of active wars.
https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamanetworkopen/fullarticle/2757484
Now that could be because some soldiers intentionally get themselves killed in combat as an alternative to self-inflection, but then, it’s also potentially much slower, less certain, and more painful than a proper bullet through the mouth or temple. There’s also potentially much more reasons to want to kill yourself in wartime-maybe you got drafted, didn’t want that life, and now you’re nearly dead from frostbite and lack of sufficient food and medical care.
But I’d surmise that there’s probably something to the idea that people who feel they have no purpose or anything meaningful to do are more likely to experience depression. And that’s a situation we inflict upon children by mandatory schooling-shoving them in institutions where they’re forced to do a lot of work that is relatively pointless.
The media reporting on things to fill the 24 hour news cycle is a huge contributor to much of the misconceptions Americans have about social ills.
100 years ago it could take up to a week before you found out your nation was at war. It could take longer to find out who the new president was. Today when some rag head decides to chop the head off another rag head half way around the world you know about it 15 minutes after it happened.
Also I agree the lack of responsibilities for young people is a factor, but that still falls to the parents. My son has had responcibities to do certain jobs around the house since he was able to do things and understand what we were saying. He has been working outside the home since he got his driver's license. He is always being praised by employers for being such a hard worker. I am very proud of him and I let him know that.
Parents who give their children no responsibility are doing their children serious harm. They need structure, dicipline and responsibilities appropriate for their age and development. Otherwise they turn out to be... well... like so many kids we hear about on TV news.
Who died to redeem mankind in progressivism? Is it...Woodrow Wilson perhaps?
One suspects you don't know much about the faiths you're calling into question here, but there is little doubt that the progressive religion has no room for forgiveness or redemption.
Even Islam, a notoriously violent religion, has room for forgiveness and redemption. When you're doing worse than the religion of Jihad, maybe rethink your tenants.
I mean, I'm not going to defend all of Christianity, it has certainly done this and beaten people down. Catholicism was historically heavy about piling on feelings of guilt and setting up entire systems around it. But Christianity has themes of redemption and forgiveness, and there's paths to reach absolution. In many ways it's uplifting as well, since even the worst and most vile criminals aren't beyond redemption in the eyes of God.
This social justice hierarchical system of beliefs isn't really uplifting, it exists to beat people down. There's no panacea, you are either evil or victim by virtue of your heritage, and really, your outward appearance-they've said people who are "white-passing" are just as much oppressors as the vile white people. There's no absolution and there's no final justice or reckoning at the end, so it certainly is a belief system built upon despair. They refuse to acknowledge that things are getting better, that race relations have improved over the past 60, 100, and 200 years (though I'd definitely argue things are much worse than they were 20-25 years ago).
though I’d definitely argue things are much worse than they were 20-25 years ago
Have to agree with you there. Segregation has reared it's ugly head once again and the very notion of a color blind society is now considered racist.
It's a weird day when Martin Luther King can be considered a huge racist preaching hate to other racists. I've heard that argument before, and it was specifically from...white supremacists.
Truly, we live in bizarro world.
"How is that significantly different from what churches have told people for centuries?" Churches generally got only a few hours one day a week to push their message of, "You're mired in Original Sin, and your only hope is to give us 10% of your earnings, and to tell us all your secrets in confession." Social Media can dominate all your waking hours - if you let it.
"Someone explain to me how children’s interacting electronically is supposed to be more dangerous than their doing so in person."
Being alone vs. being with others. Imagine if the comments here were made in the company of those we're responding to. They'd likely be more civil and constructive than comments made in physical or social isolation. The separation means the norms of courteous behavior can be more easily dispensed with.
Advertising intermediated contact. Personal contact is not that. Historically, the 17-35 demographic has always been the main target of mass advertising. It’s why ‘generations’ were created in the early days of TV – ie the boomers which first started being described as such and psychologically fleshed out as such in the early to mid 60’s when the oldest of that beginning to move into that demographic.
But that demographic has also been the least likely to spend time focused on that media. The attempt to appeal to that demo is why TV made its big switch from western/rural themed shows to cops/urban/LaughIn. But TV never intermediated personal contact and especially not in the young – until maybe MTV which did begin to replace music a bit as a way of youthful expression
That all changed with social media and Facebook in particular. Mass advertising/media has been psychologically manipulative as hell since the 1920’s and has become really really good at manipulating emotions the more knowledge marketers have about psychology.
IMO, the growth of school shootings and social media and ad-based intermediation among the really young (meaning younger and more immature than that 17-35 demographic) are very linked. Fear, excitement, insecurity, belonging, etc are the tools of the trade. ‘Healthy’ and resilient are absolutely not.
Are you serious? It's not apparent. You think anonymously interacting with people is the same as interacting with people in person? I think understanding this basic concept is out of reach.
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Meanwhile I look at YouTube and wonder what reason there is to post such mundanities: my skin care routine, what I had for lunch, etc.
Kids now a days are spoiled, sheltered and weak. You have helicopter parenting, the end of kids playing outside without adults and kids being told how 'special' they are. Add in their addiction to their phone and you've created people that ,in many ways, are not ready for life as an adult.
This seems to be generally true (though there are exceptions). To some extent though, I don't think it's a societal shift that's exclusive to children/parents. People of all generations have concurrently become more spoiled, "special", individually helpless, and reliant on digital media.
Except in (ugh!) fly-over country.
I am reading this off my DEC dot matrix line printer that is hooked up to the local college via a 300 baud modem. Someday, I as a flyover person might get a DEC green screen terminal to hook up to the Internet.
You get 300 baud! Utter luxury! To type this I have to code in the message on my Texas Instruments calculator using hexadecimal code to then upload it at the library to their Fax Machine that them deposits this missive on this forum.
Aye, when I was young we were poor, we had to wake up two hours before we went to bed, lick our shoebox of a house clean, drink a cup of cold poison, then pay the mill owner for the privilege of working for him for 20 hours a day and when we came home our father would slash us in half.
You tell kids today that and they don't believe you.
My father told me when his father took over the land he had bought after getting married and striking out on his own in the early 20th century he arrived with a Ford tractor with no cab pulling half their stuff and a horse team pulling the other half. He didn't have electricity or a telephone. Laundry day was literally a whole day of back breaking labor for my grandmother. My uncle almost died from brucellosis because they didn't have a pasteurizer. Before grandpa died he was driving a huge tractor with an air conditioned cab and a GPS computer system that could drive the tractor for him. That's a lot of change in his 90 years on this planet.
Technology makes lives easier. That's the point. Without that advancement we'd all be having to grow our own food and send a portion to our feudal lord for his protection racket. We couldn't have people who get educations and develop new technology to make our lives easier. We wouldn't be able to defend ourselves because we wouldn't have the luxury time to train in weapons like the nobility. We'd work from dusk to dawn every day no matter the weather.
If your kids are lazy do nothings then it's your fault for not setting a better example.
"Scrolling around on Instagram takes zero effort."
"As screen-based entertainment in all forms becomes more interesting"
All the statistics summarized in two statements. It's become the 'most interesting' because "it's for the children" gov-gun protection measures made everything else (like working, getting a job or just free-range kids) illegal.
I swear. Political minds think along the lines of lock you in a cage for your own good then wonder why you're pouting/sad/depressed about it. Once upon a time the general US public noticed the value in freedom.
Freedoms just another word for nothing left to lose. Liberty is what we should value. Liberty comes with responsibility and a lot of people don't want to be responsible for what they do. Those idiots have kids and don't take responsibility for raising them. So thus Liberty is a product that has few customers.
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Well, kids got depressed before social media, so I think it is just that the teen years are when the kids figure out that they will have to run the world in a few years, and the world is a mess.
Teens have always faced emotional challenges. But then we indulged them with a consumer edu-tainment culture that made them the center of attention. And tech added further distortion.
A couple of other observations:
Many tech moguls famously do not let their kids have access.
Once upon a time (but not very long ago), people in their teens were considered adults, who got married, had kids, and worked to support themselves.
True points. But again, stopping your kid from living on social media requires actual parenting. Something the Boomers gave up on and passed the new tradition of asking government to raise their kids on to the next generation. We need parents to retake the responsibility of parenting, something that is a hard sell. Easier to blame the phone than take responsibility.
As a kid that grew up without the internet, because notably it did not exist, I can easily remember how cruel and monstrous kids could be back then. At least then you only had to deal with that shit at school it didn't actually follow you home...unless you were physically followed home and got your ass kicked here in reality.
Imagine all that pent up directionless rage, only online every day, and the reason becomes pretty clear.
Kids are generally assholes who haven't learned how to mitigate those behaviors yet.
Combine that with being fed doomsday cult bullshit every day, along with outright declarations that objective reality doesn't count and by virtue of your race you are either evil and irredeemable or good and can do no wrong, and yeah it's probably going to exacerbate the underlying 'massive asshole' issue.
In the 50s and 60s they had Duck and Cover because the Russians were going to nuke us and destroy the world. In the 70s and 80s they gave up on
Duck and Cover to say we were just fucked. In the 90s and 00s it was the Arabs getting the bomb that scared kids at night. Now it's ecological Armageddon. I'm sure in 50,000 BC kids were terrified of the other tribes kidnapping and raping them. There's always doom and gloom for those who want to wallow in it.
Yes, kids are assholes. Bullies are a constant and cruelty is the norm. Just like "back in the day" kids with positive genuine self esteem from loving caring parents who were there in the kids lives could ignore the bullies or have the courage to stand up to them.
Again, all this extraneous stuff is an excuse bad parents use to salve their egos. "It's not my parenting, it's that damned phonograph they listen to. We didn't have a phonograph when I was young! Look at them, sitting there listening to big band music without having to go to a theater! It makes them lazy I say."
I have gotten many compliments from other parents about how we are able to have a full dinner/flight without a phone or tablet. Granted it takes a lot of work and attention, but most parents are lazy
Parenting by screen. Started with the invention of TV and its gotten worse. We have a TV cabinet with doors. We used them. More people need to.
I notice the reliance on Surgeon General reports. I suggest that most of the perceived problems in these reports are as real as the government reports during the pandemic.
Put someone in charge of finding "public health" problems, make their reputation and budgets dependent on the problems they find, and guess what, they will find as many problems as they can.
Actually, it seems they find more than are there - - - - - - - - - -
My principal complaint with the modern mental health industry is how they decided that (1) we are all damaged and (2) by telling us this over and over they convince us that we are, and we need them to save us.
Sounds a lot like Christianity. Products of original sin who need to absolve our sins through prayer and sacrifice.
Original sin is a mostly Catholic doctrine, but the new faith had to pick up its creeds from somewhere. Just like Christianity came out of Temple Period Judaism and Islam came out of early Jewish Christianity.
The entire concept of "sin" is ridiculous. Sin does not exist. Morality certainly does - but not sin.
To determine what a sin is one has to visit a shaman/priest/mullah. The purpose of calling out sin is to subjugate others.
One cannot be a libertarian and believe that sin exists.
Color me shocked that a pedophile and hardcore racist like you doesn't believe in the existence of sin.
Also, you seem to be redefining the meaning of "sin" from "an action that is or is felt to be highly reprehensible" (Merriam-Webster) to whatever the fuck you think will back up your redefinition that it's determined by clergy.
So then, what sins do MAGA supporters commit?
Subjugate others? Like when you corner some little kid and force yourself on them?
As a recently retired family therapist, I believe there is a lot of struggle around goals of parenting and the ways to accomplish them. I think all would agree we parents are meant to provide for the emotional development of our children as much as, if not right behind their physical needs. I think a key to emotional health is a sense of worth and it is that with which we have the most difficulty. Initially we 'create' it in our children by our interactions with them as infants and soon after we begin the process of showing them how to build it, strengthen it, and protect it themselves. I believe there are some general 'guidelines', (e.g., LOVE is spelled T-I-M-E), but the methods could/should be as different as the individuals. The questions about social media may be important but I wonder if they shift the focus a bit too much to the role of outside influences and risk downplaying the parents' role in developing the child's own worth and values.
Parents don't want to parent. Nuff said.
"Why Are Teens Depressed?"
Hormones.
There’s not enough Groomer Jeffy’s to help guide them through their gender transitions.
Also randy, obnoxious, needy, and hard to live with.
That's why so many cultures sent young people away on vision quests, missions, raiding parties, voyages of discovery, and crusades. The ones that survived had to grow up before they returned.
The proto-Indo-Europeans used to indoctrinate teenage boys into war bands called Kóryos and then send them out raiding and attacking other groups until they were in their early twenties. They couldn't come home except for lambing and calving season. They were allowed to steal, raid, and rape women as long as those acts were not directed against their own group.
Probably why most Western European Y-chromosome haplogroups are completely different than those before the start of the bronze age, and half of Eurasia speaks an Indo-European language.
Very interesting. I suspect many cultures had components of this across the world.
From the Wikipedia article: "The conflicting opposition between death and invulnerability is suggested by the attributes generally associated with the kóryos: great strength, resistance to pain, and lack of fear."
Have we now developed the anti-koryos? Constantly teaching impending death and vulnerability inspires new virtues, like great weakness, hyper-sensitivity to pain (even through imagination) and all-consuming fear.
And whining. Don't forget constant whining
Teaching the aggressive, crazy, violence-prone, and hormone-soaked ones (of any age) that intrusive, unwanted pussy-grabbing is OK, so long ass shit is directed at "those others, over there" (the BAD Tribes, not OUR Tribe!) was tolerable in the days before nuclear weapons. Now that we have nukes, shit is ENTIRELY too dangerous, for thinking, benevolent-type folks! PLEASE think about it, out-of-control maniacs, and do NOT drag the rest of us into YOUR stupid Hell!
^ And the blatant insanity! Fuck off and die, spastic asshole.
You first, SmegmaLung! You hypocrite! If you are NOT a hypocrite, you will GLADLY lead by example! Udderwise, ye are all “Do ass I say, and not ass I do!”
(PS, WHEN are you gonna refute a DAMNED thing that I write, with something more intelligent and well-informed than grade-school diaper-shitting?)
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Fuck off and die, spastic pile of shit.
Maybe, just maybe, it is inversely related to the number of children with two married parents of the opposite sex?
Plus they're not getting laid and drunk driving. Who wouldn't be depressed.
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Glenn Greenwald on the SCOTUS hearing regarding CO's attempt to disqualify Trump:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDY8Q0FOAWA
Spoiler: Looks like CO gets bitch-slapped.
That stupid bitch was on the news yesterday saying the founders never wanted an insurrectionist in the white house.
1) date of the amendment.
2) they were insurrectionists.
Pretty sure it was Gorsuch who told the lawyer to answer the question and quite changing the subject. Maybe he has dealt with that shit sarc.
Just Washington, Jefferson, Adams Sr. and Jr., Madison and Monroe, but they don't count because they were evil racists, and as soon as all their statues and portraits are removed, they really won't count.
I like Greenwald but I disagree with his comment that Brown might be on the fence. She is, we are told, a serious student of the 14th and she made the case several times that the plain language of section 3 exempts the president from disqualification and backed it up with historical records. She actually beat up Trump's lawyer for not making that case more strongly. Maybe Glenn misspoke but if there is a dissenter it's much more likely to be Sotomayor. I'm still betting 9-0 on this one.
Greenwald is a literal Marxist, anti-Semite, and Russian shill, but hey, he badmouths the US government and loves Trump (despite hating the Brazilian Trump), so let's treat him as a serious commentator.
I disagree with a lot of his viewpoints, but he's principled, and he argues from those principles. It's much easier to respect people who follow a consistent set of principles and are interested in truth rather than narratives.
If there was an actual principled media establishment that wasn't a propaganda arm of the government and the DNC, Greenwald's influence would be much less, and nobody to the right of AOC would pay attention to him. But so much of the media is straight propaganda narrative that he's a standout.
"Greenwald is a literal Marxist, anti-Semite, and Russian shill, but hey, he badmouths the US government and loves Trump (despite hating the Brazilian Trump), so let’s treat him as a serious commentator."
Your TDS is causing you issues, asshole? Fuck you.
Teens have always been depressed. I suspect going back to caveman days they sat around moping and staring at the fire. Their cave parents would gripe that the fire was the problem. "Ug, we no have fire when we young, ug fire make kids stupid and lazy, make them talk back."
Maybe if their parents would get off the damn computer and take them outside for walks and talk with them they'd be less depressed. Maybe if their parents would put down the damn phone and try to get involved with what the kids are into they'd be less depressed.
When kids have problems it's usually related to the amount of time and the quality of that time the parents spend with the kids. But instead of taking responsibility parents are too busy on the damn phones.
My grand daughter comes over and wants all the attention she can get. Her parents are usually on their phones. So I go and watch her play with her barbies and she eats it up. I don't even need to do much, just put down the phone and sit in her room and not fall asleep.
Maybe - but not certainly. I had a fine childhood, spent lots of time with my parents and siblings in lots of activities. I had a few close friends wherever we lived and not very many mean people around me. Nevertheless, I also had my share of anxiety and poor self-image. I'm willing to bet that almost every teen in the world has had the same general experience. I believe it's a combination of hormones and having no clue at that age how or where you will fit into society. I suspect that the high school counselors presenting you with a list of over 12,000 official career categories didn't help either! The farm kids in 1850 new beyond a shadow of a doubt that they were going to be farmers. If they were lucky they might be apprenticed at an early age to one of the twelve or fifteen crafts - like blacksmith - at the time that could allow them to escape from farming.
We infantize children in the west. Keeping them in school until 18 does them a disservice. Considering how all that time in school fails to prepare them for college it seems an 8th grade education should suffice for most children so they can get a jump start into the trades. Let 9th and maybe 10th be college prep classes and start college at 16. Our founders were running businesses at 18. Serving on local governments in their early 20s. We don't need to waste so much of their lives on treating them as if they are incompetent. Give them something serious to do as soon as you can so they feel useful.
Good luck doing any of that with democrats around. The teacher’s unions would have a fit.
Take the kids out of school and use alternative methods of education. Government school is a last resort, not the default.
You can have it all! But your kids might commit suicide.
'wholesome NPR podcasts'
I know (hope?) this is sarcasm, but if we want to keep people away from disinformation, and content intended to skew emotional and intellectual health, we could start with NPR.
Sarcs spirit journalist agrees.
John Harwood
@JohnJHarwood
political reporters ought to report on the beliefs and perceptions of voters
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they also ought to report on whether the beliefs and perceptions of voters are true or false
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there's not enough of the latter
I actually like Freakonomics, Planet Money, How I Built This and a few others. I don’t always agree, but there’s nothing wrong with getting out of your echo chamber. You should try it sometime. Might learn something.
Edit: Hidden Brain is also good.
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I don’t consider links from you guys to be information. I’ve clicked a couple and never found them useful. It has to be from, or confirmed by, someone other than a raving right-wing lunatic for me to give it consideration.
*shrug*
You are the definition of echo chamber lol. Why you've been wrong on every major story.
Yes I reject your echo chamber of sources that confirm your biases.
Lol.
Taibbi, Lee Fang, Berenson, Greenwald... all alt right!!!
You reject information against state narratives retard. Again. This is why you're wrong on virtually any topic. That and your complete ignorance.
Lol.
It's funny. We all quote and post links to figures of the former liberal-left over traditional right wing sources, at least ten to one. I can't remember the last time someone on Sarcasmic's enemies list posted a link to National Review.
But these guys responses are always "George Bush! Faux News!". They're incapable of thinking outside of tropes from twenty years ago.
What is even funnier to me is he screams Ad Hominem constantly, and incorrectly, as he dismisses all factual information by using ad hominems.
Your source’s mission statement is to emphasize cost and deliberately ignore benefits.
And your mission is to pretend that being given a case of the clap is worth a million dollars.
Yes, Sarc, we all know you reject reality and substitute your own “facts”,
Lies, statistics, and damned lies
It's the other way 'round. "Lies, damned lies, and statistics". Is this another thing you don't understand?
For example all your linked information on immigration comes from an organization with a stated mission of restricting the free movement of people. And you act as if it’s the only source of unbiased information.
Oh do please cite this stated mission.
What is hilarious is regarding immigration I've cited many local news, NYT, WaPo, and even Maine newspapers. All showing you the costs you deny. Because again.... you only care about the narrative.
But aside from that...
What information from CIS is wrong. Here is the link. Tell me what is a lie or wrong.
https://cis.org/Report/Cost-Welfare-Use-Immigrant-and-Native-Households
If you can't point to anything that is wrong, you're again admitting youre dismissing factual information solely because you live in a bubble.
I will wait. But not getting my hopes up.
“Since our founding in 1985 by Otis Graham Jr., we have pursued a single mission – providing immigration policymakers, the academic community, news media, and concerned citizens with reliable information about the social, economic, environmental, security, and fiscal consequences of legal and illegal immigration into the United States”
Consequences. Not looking at the numbers and then deciding. No. Admittedly focusing on and emphasizing harm. That’s what I call a biased source with an agenda.
So they provide cited information instead of narratives so you dismiss them. Lol.
Do you believe unfettered immigration has zero consequences retard?
So again. What data they present is not factual? You seem to be dismissing facts because it hurts your own narratives.
I’m saying you’re intentionally peddling a biased narrative.
No, we’re pushing back on your typical bullshit you drunk pussy.
And as always you attack the strawman of unfettered immigration. It’s not either or.
Im not going to say the numbers are wrong. I will say that they intentionally ignore a lot in order to paint a biased picture. They admit it in their own description of their mission. It is to ignore benefits and only do a cost analysis. If you were honest you would balance it out with a source that focuses on the benefits of immigration. Instead you mock food trucks.
Their analysis includes benefits you retarded fuck, they just don't ignore the costs.
Please cite specifically what they ignore. You are again utilizing a bald assertion without evidence.
If I thought it would make a difference I’d dig up some sources that look at numbers before having opinions. But I know it would be a waste of effort.
Have fun wallowing in outrage.
And to just be clear. They are not zero immigration activists. They want a more sane immigration policy. Reduction of lottery based migration and switched to a skilled based migration system. This is what those racists in Canada did for decades.
Actual intelligent immigration policy. Not bleeding heart, appeal to emotion, immigration policy.
One that balances costs against benefits instead of utility the state to force wealth transfers against the citizens wishes.
You claim to be anti welfare but you sure do promote a lot of government welfare spending, especially for illegal immigrants.
“Actual intelligent immigration policy. Not bleeding heart, appeal to emotion, immigration policy.”
Nice ad hominem, and ironic coming from an appeal to emotional outrage against immigrants.
My actual opinion on immigration, not the strawman you attack, is that the government has no right to tell people they can’t work to support themselves.
I’ve never said I support unfettered immigration. I said it should be easier, and they should be allowed to work immediately.
Here’s a post you will never bookmark because it contradicts your boilerplate lies.
If some leftist outfit said they were going to focus on the ‘consequences’ on income inequality, you think you’re going to get an unbiased picture? Of course not. Will they have numbers? Of course they will. But you can bet they will ignore anything that doesn’t promote their agenda. Your immigration outfit is no different.
But what about kids as trendy trans-gender political fashion accessories?
It takes a mother to fuck a kid up like that.
Speaking of social media, here's an upscaled 118 year old cat video.
Pussy's Breakfast
Even if adequate science were able to prove that social media causes teen depression and suicide, it doesn't justify government regulation for everyone. Even if teens (and the rest of us) spend too much time on social media, it does not require officials to regulate our activities. For one thing, that trick NEVER works. And for another thing the harm done in the attempt is worse than the harm done by social media. All aspects of human life have a mixture of up-side and down-side. Don't let power-hungry tyrants trick you into letting them meddle!
"Snapchat made it a lot easier to talk to people, including people I had just met. Without that, I wouldn't have been able to talk to them at all."
You know... phones have this other, seldom-used function...
Porn?
If you're using porn to talk to your friends, something has gone horribly wrong.
Yes it is most definitely social media. The contorted logic of the big tech apologists like this shill is pathetic.
The lefty media already has their big new talking point out there, which is: sure, on camera Sleepy Joe looks like a senile, angry, bumbling old mushmouth, but behind the scenes in the war rooms where the public doesn't see him he's still on top of his game and sharp as a tack.
Who here actually believes this shit?
Off Topic. This story has been floating around for a couple of days.
Mail-In Ballot Fraud Study Finds Trump 'Almost Certainly' Won In 2020
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/mail-ballot-fraud-study-finds-trump-almost-certainly-won-2020
The report relies on Heartland/Rasmussen that revealed a large number of mail in voters admitting to what could be illegal voting. The article also gives a lot of space to what seem like reasonable criticisms of it's conclusions. I personally believe that there was enough fraud in the 2020 election to change the result but I'd like to see more polling on the subject and see if the numbers are similar.
Biggest take away is it only took 1 to 3% of fraud in mail in ballots to switch the vote. The responses to the study were hilarious. Study cites the poll regarding 20% of voters voting for someone else or having someone vote for them and the critic responded with "but there are blind people" as if that is 20% of voters.
Well I agree but the Heritage report would look more compelling if they had noted that filling out a ballot for someone else and voting in a jurisdiction where you no longer live is not by definition illegal. Better questions would make the case stronger. That's why I'd like to see some follow up polling.
Huh? Did you get that backwards? Or is there some jurisdiction in America where election fraud is officially legal rather than just ignored by the perpetual "winners"?
Where I live (Grand Rapids, MI), I've been able to vote absentee automatically ever since I turned 65. The absentee ballots say clearly that one can assist another voter (this requires filling in the details and signing on the envelope for the ballot), but cannot fill in the ballot for them. When my wife's senility advanced to where she cannot fill in the little boxes for the scanner herself, she stopped voting. I don't know how this works for the blind...
Voting where you don't live is election fraud. First, most ballots here contain federal, state, and local offices, and if you are not a resident of this city, you can't vote for the city officials. Second, if you can vote in one place where you aren't a resident, you can vote in many places, and it will be much more difficult to catch you than it is to just prove that you voted in one district while your residence is in another. Keeping my voter registration up to date has not been a burden for over 50 years; everywhere in the USA requires you to update your driver's license soon after you move, and you only have to check a box to update your voter registration at the same time. Lazy or incompetent election clerks don't always cancel the old registration when they get the notice, but using that old registration to vote is fraud.
Which is why it’s not Republican messaging, it’s not low-quality candidates, it’s not Trump, it’s not abortion, it’s mass mail-in/drop-box voting fraud. It’s as simple as that.
Republicans will never again win another election unless it’s stopped.
Republican leadership and their donors, however, prefer infighting, phony "principled" stands, and shooting backwards over actually fighting back against the fascist orcs trying to ruin the country.
The last legitimate presidential election was in 2016. Mid term 2018 probably. It's fun to watch Biden self destruct and poll at rock bottom. But a little voice in my head keeps saying if they can do what they did in 2020 and 2022 it really doesn't matter.
And even if it's beyond obvious that it's a fiddle (Joe Biden - 526,054,477), the DC establishment will declare victory, and the Republican leadership will spread their cheeks wider and talk about how just letting it go will be better for America in the long run.
All sorts of Republicans who are thought to be solid conservatives go funny when they get into positions where they can actually do something.
Remember when Jeff Sessions was a hero on the right? Likewise, nobody was denouncing Pence back in 2016. The list is a very long one - just think of all the Republican Supreme Court justices over the decades who "grew in office".
And of course, Romney and Paul Ryan were the standard bearers for the GOP in 2012. Both men endorsed Ketanji Brown Jackson's nomination to the SCOTUS. They were clearly liberals all along, and the cruise ship conservatives certainly knew about that and deliberately kept it from us.
The moral of the story should be don't trust Republicans. And don't trust "right wing media", which has a long track record of supporting all these frauds and fakes.
2016 wasn't all that legitimate, either. As far as we know, vote-stealing Democrats may have just been caught by surprise by Trump's lead in several swing states, and without the cover of huge numbers of mail-in ballots, could not find a way to restart the count and run on for several days while manufacturing more Hillary ballots.
In Michigan, Trump won by a very narrow margin. Then the Green Party candidate demanded a recount - I don't know on what basis, because there's nothing that could have moved them above 4th place, behind the Libertarian. So the recount began with locating and validating all the ballot boxes. In Detroit, 26% could not be validated: they had broken seals, no seals, signatures lacking on the seals, or the # of ballots written on the outside did not match the actual number inside.
The courts suddenly reversed themselves on whether a recount was needed, and nothing else happened. The unvalidated ballots were not thrown out (which I expect would have more than doubled Trump's lead.) The election officials responsible were neither charged with election tampering, nor fired for incompetence. Except for retirement or death, the same people have been counting Detroit's vote ever since...
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https://robeka.ir/
How the IMF started the war in Ukraine.
https://alt-market.us/global-economic-war-is-coming-and-the-threat-to-the-us-dollar-is-real/
From the moment Ukrainian President Viktor Yanukovych was deposed (many argue that this was done with the help of western intel agencies) the agenda for WWIII was set in motion. Both sides seemed to create the circumstances by which a conflagration was unavoidable.
Russia, strangely, supported the intervention of the IMF to secure Ukraine’s economy. The IMF then asserted that Ukraine would have to fight Russia to keep control of the Donbas or risk losing the financial aid that was keeping the country alive. Is this irony, or is there something else going on here?
NATO started arming Ukraine, and Ukraine used those arms to slaughter civilians in the Donbas. The eastern population wanted to join with Russia, and Ukraine had no intention of allowing this (IMF funding was on the line). In the meantime, the government began openly discussing the official inclusion of Ukraine into NATO. Russia then invaded, taking the Donbas. Now the entire region is a powder keg and both sides are ready to light the fuse.
Linked in the article
https://www.cnbc.com/2014/05/01/ukraine-gets-17bn-bailout-russian-risks-remain.html
I mean, so, so much more than $17 billion has been funneled into Ukraine since the conflict started.
Also, Putin's interview really made a better case for why the invasion started-it's Russian nationalism and his idea that all of Ukraine historically belongs to Russia.
"...Also, Putin’s interview really made a better case for why the invasion started-it’s Russian nationalism and his idea that all of Ukraine historically belongs to Russia..."
There is, historically, an eastern area where Ukrainian/Russian influence is in dispute, but some sort of elective effort might have solved the issue with less loss of lives.
Invasion pretty much obviates that alternative.
Russia lost any moral right to Ukraine with the Holodomor.
Who gives a shit about a moral right? Putin is an asshole and Zelenski is a two bit hustler who works as a money launderer for the Biden family. Everyone needs to stay out of that pussing contest and let them beat each other to bankruptcy.
All of these things are true. The IMF angle is just another part of the story.
We've told our children that they are potential or actual victims and incentivized their acting as such.
Speak for yourself. I never taught my kid to be a victim or provided an incentive for being a victim. I don't know why anyone would do that. It's a one way street to them sleeping on your couch well after age 30.
All those numbers! And accurate, too -- 70%, not 71% or 69%! Well, I have to tell you, I'm convinced! This is the social sciences at their most typical!
The problem isn't the pure nitrogen; the problem is the oxygen that it's displacing.
On some dimensions, of course, teens are doing much better than in the past. [Stats]
I'm just going to leave this right here.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-surprising-surge-of-faith-among-young-people-424220bd
And if you won't pay for WSJ, there's this freebie version of effectively the same story:
https://www.thecollegefix.com/christian-campus-ministries-report-spike-in-interest-as-lost-gen-z-seeks-meaning-guidance/
very nice article with great and unique information. i also want to add my few cents here, related to this online usage.
we must have to keep an eye on kids that what and how they are using platforms.
alternatively, we should give them online learning so that there screen time will be used in a positive way.
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https://myqurantutor.co.uk/
Rather than looking at the sources of information, you might want to look at the content of the information. Kids today have lived through 9/11, the 2008 housing collapse, Covid, and have been told most of their lives that the world is coming to an end.
No wonder they're depressed.
Now, I would say that the existence of SM makes it much more likely a young person will hear about all these things. I never did when I was a kid and you had to watch the news on TV during a particular half hour time slot, or read the newspapers. And even then, the news was much more objective and not pushing explicit agendas.
What a ridiculous article essentially trying to rationalize kids being on social media. Let me clarify what the experts you consulted got wrong. the same experts that likely push the legitimacy of the transgender nonsense.
Social media is unhealthy for society. It's unhealthy for adults. It's profoundly unhealthy for kids. Period, of end story!
Licensed healthcare professional 35 years in healthcare. 15 in choked and adolescent psychiatry.
That's why the article is so long. It takes a lot of words to rationalize bad parenting. Nothing has done more to move the leftist needle and push a progressive agenda than social media. It's a net loss for our nation.
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We should try to play outdoor games except online mobile games. It will make you healthy and fit.
So, clever bot, you disagree with concerns about tech and social life?
I really can't flag that one because it's being so apt.
God bless you.
Me: "Why the hell does KAR hate this guy? Who is he?"
Wikipedia: Personal life
Reid is married with five children, three sons and two daughters. Reid and his family are members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints.[137]
Me: "Of course"
"homophobic"
Lol, okay DOL/KAR/Lynn.
KAR, you have a nice fucking day too.
Wow, do you blow your husband with that mouth?
It must be a day ending in a 'Y', the faggot Reason staff member with the sockpuppet accounts is mad at me again for mocking his guy.