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Joe Biden

Nice Old Man

Plus: Tucker Carlson interviews Vladimir Putin, Rep. Ilhan Omar opposes minimum parking limits, my baby enjoys the DDR, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 2.9.2024 9:40 AM

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Poor guy: Yesterday, Special Counsel Robert K. Hur released a report saying that, though his "investigation uncovered evidence that President [Joe] Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen," he will not be prosecuted, as "it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

The report has become a political liability for Biden, as it describes him as a "well-meaning, elderly man with a poor memory" with "diminished faculties in advancing age."

"Hur said the memory of the then-80-year-old president was so hazy during five hours of interviews over two days that it would be difficult to convince jurors that Mr. Biden knew his handling of the documents was wrong," reported The New York Times. 

Biden's defense: "I was so determined to give the special counsel what they needed that I went forward with five hours of in-person interviews over two days on October 8th and 9th of last year, even though Israel had just been attacked on October 7th and I was in the middle of handling an international crisis," countered Biden in a statement.

He then convened a press conference to respond to the report, saying Hur made "extraneous commentary" about his mental fitness and that the report's authors "don't know what they're talking about."

Of course, during those same remarks, Biden mixed up the countries of Mexico and Egypt, seemingly proving Hur's point.

We all lose: Takes abound with how Biden's age and Donald Trump's many indictments will play for voters, but one thing is certain: Stunning percentages of American voters are unenthused by the options before them, and for good reason.

it's funny/sad/astonishing that we're in a situation where trump's multiple indictments were political advantageous to him, and biden's exoneration is politically terrible for him

— Derek Thompson (@DKThomp) February 8, 2024

Trump's indictments were advantageous to him in the primary; they're not in the general, which is the realm in which Biden's exoneration is bad for him.

— Charles C. W. Cooke (@charlescwcooke) February 8, 2024


Scenes from Berlin:

OK, I know there's no perfect libertarian paradise, and Germans are repressed, uptight busybodies who wear suede suspenders and eat too many noodles, but Berlin? Those commie-hating overgrown art students are full of libertarian tendencies, even if you don't choose to glimpse it firsthand at their sex clubs.

Politics is the continuation of war, from the East Side Gallery:

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My son, playing with a rather sparse East German toy kitchen, at the DDR museum, which showcases what life was like in the country before the Berlin Wall fell. Teach 'em young that commie toys aren't as fun:

Robot portraiture:

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Julian Assange love:

Not pictured, but notable: Crunchy Waldorf schools (Rudolf Steiner founded the first in Stuttgart, after all, and the alternative education model has maintained a strong presence in Germany for years) and plenty of public drinking, on streets and in parks and on the train, as it's legal to do so (and people broadly manage to keep it together, perhaps because the northern Europeans enjoy tidying up after themselves a bit more than New Yorkers do).


QUICK HITS

  • Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) opposes minimum parking limits.
  • In New York City, City Council member James Gennaro, a Democrat, just put forth a bill that would ban laundry and dishwashing detergent pods that contain polyvinyl alcohol over concerns that they're contributing to microplastic pollution. As someone who both prizes convenience and LARPs as a microplastic-fearing, seed oil–loathing redpilled Joe Rogany hippie, I am very conflicted.
  • If you don't know what this references, you have made good life choices:

Imagine being told that this was the actual illustration for a news story pic.twitter.com/W8CWiTuobM

— Jesse Singal (@jessesingal) February 9, 2024

(Context here and here.)

  • Not wrong:

pic.twitter.com/nK9g1RLYWC

— Chris Freiman (@cafreiman) February 9, 2024

  • Did The New York Times publish this piece, on the Catholic Church's AI ethics friar, with me in mind? Not ruling it out.
  • Tucker Carlson interviewed Russian President Vladimir Putin. It was a softball interview in many ways, with a fair amount of initial self-aggrandizing from Carlson about his own bravery. Credit where due, though, for the part where Carlson questioned Putin about his imprisonment of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich. Much to say (Melissa Chen is especially good), but this is also spot-on:

"He spent first 30 minutes bitching over 800 years of historical grievances.."

Have you ever been to an Eastern European bar? You lucky it only lasted 30 minutes and only covered 800 years!

— Chris Arnade ???????????? (@Chris_arnade) February 9, 2024

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...he will not be prosecuted, as "it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

    Biden bribed him with a Werthers.

    1. damikesc   1 year ago

      They seem to be setting up a 25th Amendment "fix" here.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        That's what it looks like. We've seen more of him on camera the last week than for a long time. They are letting him do the hard part himself.

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        2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

          Yet he can still send troops to die.

          Your feeble mind won’t save you from sharing the gallows with bibi.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Fucking Nazi.

          2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Misek, you are the epitome of a feeble mind. It’s a shame you haven’t been put down yet.

          3. Rob Misek   1 year ago (edited)

            Like I’ve always said, Jews and Nazis are like peanut butter and chocolate.

            Nazis considered themselves the master race. Jews consider themselves god’s chosen people.

            Nazis were members of a secret satanic society called the Thule society. Jews claim ownership of the vast secret satanic pyramid scheme society today called freemasonry.

            Jews falsely claim Nazis committed a holocaust during WW2 and that various other nations did the same on no less than 166 different occasions between 1900 and 1945.

            Jews are currently committing a holocaust in Gaza and are denying it even though they’re on trial for genocide today in the United Nations international court of justice.

            Biden is funding the genocide making him complicit.

            Biden also coordinated the 2014 coup in Ukraine putting the puppet comedian Jew Zelensky in as president resulting in years of bloody civil war before Russia moved in to stop it. Now Biden funds Zelensky’s Nazi AZOV battalions to do their dirty work.

            1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

              You must be really pissed off right now, seeing Israelis saying Hallel prayers today during Rosh Chodesh in Gush Katif and Khan Yunis.

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                Nothing much surprises me about Jewish behaviour while they commit genocide.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Weird how you don't hold the same burden of proof demands for your phony genocide as you do for the Holocaust.

                2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                  IDF has barely killed anyone outside of Hamas terrorists.

                  1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

                    Dude, you don't use over 300 2,000lb bombs in a densely populated area and say you only killed the enemy combatants. this is accepting civilians as acceptable collateral damage. You can't dispute that. Besides most of the IDF are reserves..many kids scared and like any 19 year old national guard kid with little combat training will shoot first..at anything.

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      Hamas is responsible for any civilians put there. This isn't a secret.

                    2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                      Netanyahu is responsible for telling the IDF to commit ideological genocide by referencing the Jewish genocide against women and children with the story of AMALEK. Clearly inciting genocide. With over 20,000 non combatant women and children intentionally targeted and killed and IDF soldiers on record rejoicing about it referencing amalek, the effect of Netanyahus instructions are clear.

                      Israeli defence minister Yoav Gallant said Israel was fighting “human animals” and that they will be “starved of food and water” which Israel has done and continues to do.

                      Amichay Eliyahu, the minister for heritage, who suggested dropping a nuclear bomb on Gaza; Israel isn’t supposed to have nuclear weapons. Saddam Hussein was hung for crimes against humanity and he didn’t even have WMD much less threaten to use them.

                      The country’s mainly ceremonial president, Isaac Herzog, who described Palestinians as “an entire nation out there that is responsible” demonstrates the genocidal intention.

                3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

                  And Misek....you must be really, really pissed off right now because POTUS Biden is providing Israel with the weaponry and actionable intelligence to hunt down the Judeocidal Hamas members and kill them.

                  1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                    Biden is dragging the US into complicity with Israel in committing genocide.

                    How does that make you feel?

                    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      There is no genocide. You’re a liar and a dupe. Which is why you’re a Nazi.

                    2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                      Look at this dirty jew deny the intentional Israeli slaughter of tens of thousands of non combatant women and children in the Gaza genocide.

                    3. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      @Rob Misek

                      Hamas' numbers are unreliable. You are lying.

                    4. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                      Hamas is the legitimate government in Palestine.

                      They emerged in 2006 in direct response and opposition to Israeli apartheid, crimes against humanity and terrorism for the last 76 years.

            2. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

              "Jews are currently committing a holocaust in Gaza"

              Hey Rob, so why won't any Arab countries take in Gaza refuges?
              Also, why would you elect a terrorist organization as your leader?

              I know if you were there you would be hiding behind a baby, just like your brave Hamas comrades.

              "Jews falsely claim Nazis committed a holocaust during WW2"
              Come now say the Earth is flat. Come on you know you believe that too.

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                Another fuckwit needing to see the false holocaust story refuted.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                  Pretty much everyone but Nazis and Islamic terrorists acknowledge the Holocaust is a proven fact. You are in the same camp as Hitler and Osama bin Laden.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    Hitler never denied the Holocaust. He was proud of it. Goebbels and Himmler, Amon Göth, Rudolf Höss, etc. never once denied what they'd done.
                    Nobody did until decades later and Neo-Nazi's like Misek got tired of the revulsion they were greeted with.

                    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      You are very correct.

                    2. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                      I’ve never advocated Nazism or Hitler and I challenge anyone to refute this statement. Only a specific description and link will do.

                      If simply denying a holocaust defines a Nazi then Jews and anyone who denies the holocaust in Gaza are Nazis.

                      The fact is that on many occasions I’ve refuted many key elements that constitute the WW2 holocaust story and nobody has refuted any of my points.

                      Fuckwits simply claim they have without ever providing specifics or links. That isn’t refuting anything.

                    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      See? There you go again. You’re a Nazi, and a Nazi sympathizer. Are you based out of Illinois?

            3. TJJ2000   1 year ago

              Nazi is nothing but an abbreviation of [Na]tional So[zi]alist.

              It's not a racist term. The ideology is what yields a racist government precisely because it's a 'armed-theft' stealing to zero-sum-resources to dog-eat-dog end-goal. And being such creates [WE] identity-affiliated RULES mentality! along the way (i.e. 'gov-gun' gangs form). As-if the ideologies consequences aren't shining like the sun on a sunny day here in the States.

              1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                You should research the secret satanic SOCIETY freemasonry.

                Instead of guns they coerce with money in vast global pyramid schemes. People sign up to get rich and tell themselves that they’re simply implementing the free market.

                It’s a rigged game for select members only. Secrets require lies and lies require secrets. Non-members aren’t supposed to know what’s going on.

                One third of the founders were Freemasons.

                Jews claim ownership of freemasonry and Hitler was a member of a competing secret satanic society. None of them are good, they’re satanic.

                1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

                  Altiyan Childs created this 4 hour long video a few years ago to expose freemasonry that he was a member of.

                  His change of heart resulted from a spiritual near death experience.

                  Look at the evidence and facts that he presents. Can you refute it?

                  https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ZPisjVhIZSc

                  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                    Why would any of us need to refute a bunch of nonsense from some obscure fringe lunatic? Just posting a video of some rambling Rando doesn’t constitute ’proof’ of anything.

                    You’re a very stupid, subnormal fool. Which is why you’re a Nazi.

                  2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

                    "Near Death Experiences" are simply the results of the brain bejng deprived of Oxygen. Penn & Teller on their debunker Showtime program Penn & Teller: Bullshit pointed out thst

                    at the same experiences are also documented to have occhred with pilots riding in centrifuges at 10 Gs of Earth gravitational pull. Nothing Supernatural about that.

                    As for you, you are perpetually in a state of Oxygen deprivation to your brain. This probably explains your obsession with Holocaust Denial and hatred of Freemasonry and Jews. Do you AA much to Triumph of the Will, Herr Misek?

                    Finish depriving yourself of Oxygen and...

                    Fuck Off, Nazi!

      2. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        As a conspiracy realist I suspect that this is definitely designed to bump Joe off of the ticket one way or the other. Not so sure about the 25th because seating Kamala prior to the election would be a shit show and the deal has to be done prior to the convention. The media are awaiting their marching orders and it's going to come down very shortly.

        1. Rob Misek   1 year ago

          Biden has no chance against Trump without tampering with the votes and EVERYONE will be watching this time.

          1. Ersatz   1 year ago

            ^this^

          2. Super Scary   1 year ago

            "EVERYONE will be watching"

            Until they are kicked out and the counting resumes while they are gone. Like last time.

      3. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

        If the 25A doesn’t apply to Biden, I don’t know if it will ever be meaningfully used.

        1. Dillinger   1 year ago

          ^

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Just wait until you see the joker that's president in 2037...

          Really, people should have known better than to vote for Fetterman there...

        3. markm23   1 year ago (edited)

          One problem with the 25th is that it has to be applied by people appointed to their jobs by the President that they are firing. If the President’s ever in a coma from an unexpected stroke, and if he selected a VP that’s fit to take over (rather than an Agnew or Harris), they’ll probably boot him out once nobody can pretend he’s going to wake up someday.

          But when the President’s in nearly the same shape he was when you accepted the job from him, applying the 25th is saying that you were so unfit for any important office in the first place, that you signed on to prop up a make-believe President.

      4. BYODB   1 year ago

        And as a tack on bonus, if they oust Biden using the 25th then they have a recent precedent on using the 25th so they can then wield it as a weapon against Trump as well. The courts will cover them.

        It's all upside for the Democrats, except for little things like becoming an outright banana republic.

        Although, now that I think about it, perhaps becoming a banana republic is also good for Democrats. It's just bad for everyone else including the base of the Democrat party.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          little things like becoming an outright banana republic.

          A feature, not a bug, from their point of view.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            They think they can do Cuba or Venezuela better.

        2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          The one hiccup is the 25A requires someone from within the administration, a cabinet level official to begin the process.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            My bad, just reread it Congress can pass a law that designated another body to also declare the president is unable to conduct the office. So, in theory they could remove a president with a declaration outside the executive office.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              I also note as soon as I typed 25 into the search bar on duck duck go, the first suggestion that popped up was the 25th amendment, suggesting it's a popular search today?

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                I just noticed that as well.

      5. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

        The only reason it hasn't happened yet is ... Kamala Harris. 'Nuff said ...

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          She's a little too good of an insurance policy.

      6. Eeyore   1 year ago

        Puppets don't need competence - they just need a hole in the bottom where the hand goes.

        1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

          Thank you so much for that image.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

            Pity it wasn't Fist making that comment for the extra piquancy.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      To me this is the same shit they did with Hillary. The DoJ pre determined how a DC political jury would rule to use it as an excuse to not even charge the individual.

      Yet we hear claims that there is no two tier system.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Would you be happier with a three tier system? (inner party, proletariat, enemies of the state)

        1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

          I suggest 23 tiers of justice.

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

            Nobody needs 23 tiers of justice.

            1. Krokko   1 year ago

              Baskin-Robbins on line 1...

              1. Ersatz   1 year ago

                mmmm rocky-road justice!

          2. Agammamon   1 year ago

            We need the wheel of justice.

            https://youtu.be/YLjwEodCmT4?t=86

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              "Gulag! Gulag! Gulag!"

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

          They always end up as two-tier in the end (inner party, enemies of the state).

        3. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Actually not sure if we aren't in a 3 tier system already.

          Enemies: j6, Trump, abortion protestors
          Regulars: most of the country
          Allies: democrats and favored groups like trans pedophiles

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Glad we cleared that up.

          2. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

            Mark Steyn just got screwed in a DC court.

            1. Minadin   1 year ago

              That will get tossed on appeal.

              1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                Appeals courts can be political too.

            2. Pear Satirical   1 year ago

              What happened?

              1. R Mac   1 year ago

                https://reason.com/volokh/2024/02/09/climate-scientist-michael-mann-wins-defamation-suit-against-mark-steyn-and-rand-simberg/

                1. Pear Satirical   1 year ago

                  The fuck is wrong with people?

                2. DesigNate   1 year ago

                  Some of the posters there make YouTube commenters seam nonpartisan.

              2. R Mac   1 year ago

                He spoke out against The Church.

      2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        Yet we hear claims that there is no two tier system.

        This is the killer for me.
        Americans, including the leftists here, accept this shit because TRUMP!!!

        They are incapable of stepping back and seeing the corruption.

        1. HorseConch   1 year ago

          They are cheering the demolition of the USA because of their hatred of Trump. He's the supervillain that no good democrat could have ever dreamed up.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago (edited)

            They’ve got to go. The country can’t survive this cancer forever.

            American rights > democrat lives

        2. R Mac   1 year ago

          Are they incapable, or are they just lying partisans who just don’t care?

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            I hope some are incapable. If they are simply lying partisans, we need to get the CW2 party started. There's no other recovery.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              Exterminating the Marxist scourge would do a lot.

            2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

              CW2 party

              Warrant Officers?

              1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

                Hey, it should work. Can't ever find the chief when it's just the regular bullshit, but when it comes to actually getting important shit done, the chief shows up and gets it done in no time at all, all the while while sipping from his seemingly bottomless coffee cup, likely with either a shaw in his jaw or an unlit cigar he is chewing on. Warrant officers are like professional specialists, can't ever find one when you have bullshit mickey mouse duties but no how things actually run and when it counts can get it done, only even more so than the mythical E-4 Mafia (it doesn't exist, I swear and I didn't spend a large portion of my time in said Mafia, I swear).

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  Accurate.

          2. Ersatz   1 year ago

            Are they incapable, or are they just lying partisans who just don’t care?

            Yes

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Correction: leftists achieved this long-sought goal because they created Trump and cultivated outrage. The smarter ones are well aware of their corruption.

      3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        JesseAZ, it is (D)ifferent. You know that.

        POTUS Biden will not be the nominee.

        1. TJJ2000   1 year ago

          Thought I'd search before copy-catting your (D)ifferent brilliant phrase.

          Nice old man
          ...because it's (D)ifferent when Biden spreads out classified documents.

          1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

            I snagged it myself, and it is brilliant. And perfectly on point.

      4. Sometimes a Great Notion   1 year ago

        To a certain degree, yes. But to me a trial would be preferable to Biden (wouldn't live to see its conclusion), then to be deemed unfit to stand trial due to mental capacity.

        And the lady doth protest too much, especially getting Mexican and Egyptians confused. That was icing on the cake.

      5. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Just move the venue. Jurors should be Americans, not democrats.

    3. Minadin   1 year ago

      "Of course, during those same remarks, Biden mixed up the countries of Mexico and Egypt, seemingly proving Hur's point."

      Ouch.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        The Biden staff member running the remote control unplugged too soon.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          The Easter Bunny is in charge.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Or Bugs Bunny.

      2. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

        I liked it when he made up a story about Helmut Kohl jabbering to him about Jan 6th.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Helmut Kohl and Francois Mitterand both! It must have been quite the seance!

          I wonder if Biden is a Ouija Board or crystal ball kinda guy.

    4. Agammamon   1 year ago

      Actually, it was a marble. The Wethers ran out a decade ago but he just keeps the jar filled with marbles and old safety pins.

      1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

        And we all know the we(a)thers ran out because of the dire climate change emergency we are all facing. Only ten years left until the Earth dies from climate change.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    ...even though Israel had just been attacked on October 7th and I was in the middle of handling an international crisis," countered Biden in a statement.

    I'm not sure that the president gets flustered in a crisis is the message his handlers want to convey.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      Exactly. Can someone give him a do-over?

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      He had his country's 500th anniversary to plan, his wife to murder, Putin to frame for it... he was swamped!

  3. JesseAz   1 year ago

    DC and NYC juries continue to make a mockery of free speech to utilize defamation cases to silence speech that is largely political.

    Jury in Mann v Steyn agrees Mann suffered no damages, awarding $1. But then included 1M in punitive damages because FYTY.

    Manns lawyer even implored the jury to use the case to shut down climate debate.

    he said that the jury should award punitive damages so that in the future, no one will dare engage in “climate denialism”

    Let's see if the judge changes the verdict which he seemed open to. USSC precedence even states punative shouldn't be larger than 10x damages.

    https://wattsupwiththat.com/2024/02/09/a-bitterly-disappointing-verdict/

    Steyn has a post up harking back to Altos dissent when they initially tried to get the suit dismissed prior to trial. Alito warned of political juries using defamation to silence speech.

    https://www.steynonline.com/14085/a-bad-day-for-america

    1. HorseConch   1 year ago

      No way this one gets tossed on appeal.

    2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

      Burn the heretics!

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        It's good to see state religion make a comeback.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Member when Canadian mathmatitions showed that you could put random numbers into manns algorithm and it would show a hockey stick curve?

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Yeah. Manns algorithm was a filtering algorithm using weights to give more credence to the signal he was looking for. That is literally how he got the hockey stick.

        Even worse is that the jury had to find Steyn knew Manns stick was wrong in order to engender this ruling. Steyn wrote an entire book of scientists and nobel prize winners criticizing the hockey stick.

        1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

          Is it not nice when truth is not an adequate defense?

          1. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago (edited)

            No. They were mean even though they were right. Much like Trump’s mean tweets.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            DC and NYC juries don't actually care what the law is. They care who the law effects.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Do you want an unbiased analysis or the right results?

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Speaking of Canada, they've got a nutty MP.

        https://www.zerohedge.com/political/canadian-mp-wants-criminalize-speech-endorses-fossil-fuels

        Just when you thought Canada couldn’t get any more Stalinist, an MP from the country’s far-left NDP party is calling for any speech that “promotes fossil fuels” – even truthful statements like comparing the relative emissions of natural gas to coal – to be banned and criminalized.

        MP Charlie Angus, from Timmins, in northern Ontario (where the average temperature in February runs -7C to -21C) has introduced a private member’s Bill C-372 called “The Fossil Fuels Advertising Act” that would “prohibit the promotion of fossil fuels except in accordance with the provisions of the Act.”

        Promotion defined as:

        “a representation about a product or service by any means, whether directly or indirectly, including any communication of information about the product or service and its price and distribution, that is likely to influence and shape attitudes, beliefs and behaviours about the product or service.‍”

        The only public discourse that would be permitted on the matter would be literary or dramatic representations that “use or depict” fossil fuels, or “opinion or commentary” provided that in either case, the author or creator has no ties or recieves no consideration “directly or indirectly” from the fossil fuel industry.

        “Parliament is of the opinion that fossil fuel advertising currently deploys techniques which knowingly mislead the public and fail to disclose the health and environmental harms associated with their use, impeding informed consumer decision-making, undermining public support for effective climate action”

        By “impeding informed decision-making” on the part of Canadians he probably means any criticisms of inexorably higher carbon taxes (which get unfairly applied according to the whims of political favouritism anyway) or drawing attention to ridiculous, symbolic, non-solutions like wind turbines, or forcing Canadians pay for expensive heat pumps in sub-zero climes.

        Further, the companies and scientists gainfully employed by Canada’s energy industry, which is responsible for 7.5% of Canada’s entire GDP (with 75% of that in Alberta), aren’t allowed to defend their industry or their livelihoods from the onslaught of junk science and ideological fanaticism, or to counter it with measured, rational, science-based counter-factuals.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Greenhut says it is just red states doing this.

        2. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

          It is easy to win political debates when you make arguing against you illegal.

          It is amazing to think how openly illiberal the Left have gotten over the past decade plus.

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            Sharia Law for Climate Change.

          2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Uh, the progressive and/or socialist left have always been illiberal. The suburban liberals have just lost control of the message and party.

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          How about burning baby seals? They are renewable, right?

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            I like to club mine with a hockey stick, eh? Tenderizes ‘em.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              Baby seal veal goes well with a side of spotted owl hot wings.

        4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          "Speaking of Canada, they’ve got a nutty MP."

          An evergreen statement.

    4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      Democrats should not be allowed to serve on juries, hold public office, any government employment whatsoever, run companies, or any employment of significance. They are a Marxist traitor party and should be punished as such.

      Enough is enough.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        D.C. circuit needs to be moved to somewhere that is not D.C.

        90% of the district is captured by dems. And not just dems but dem activists.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Not a surprise. Given that DC has over 950k federal employees. Nearly all of which are leftist democrats.

    5. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

      " The so-called "hockey stick graph" was successful in helping the public understand the urgency of global warming ... the graph shows thousands of years of relatively stable global temperatures. Then, when humans start burning lots of coal and oil, it shows a spike upward. ... The attacks came from groups that reject climate science, some funded by the fossil fuel industry." - NPR, 2/6/2024

      Of course, if you pick the starting point of your graph, you can draw any conclusion you like. If you put the "graph" into an average global temperature graph that goes back over the last four ice ages it no longer "shows a spike upward" and many fewer people would see the "urgency" he was touting. Thank you, NPR, for proving once again that we can no longer trust climate scientists, the legal system or journalists.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The hockey stick actually removed warm times like the MWP and cold times like the LIA.

        1. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

          When I aced my course in Statistics 101 and went on to pass a course in Epidemiology, I became an expert in little tricks like "excluding outliers" which can take a graph that starts out looking like /\_/`---./\____/\ and make it look like ___-----____-

          1. Stuck in California   1 year ago (edited)

            Can you make it look like this? 8==D ~

            1. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

              No ... no I can't ...

        2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Dude, NPR is on a holy crusade. Just accept their truth.

          1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

            why is the GOP funding NPR? That whole group of liberal art lefties and cultural marxists from the 60's should have been cut off from tax dollars decades ago. Notice how little "diversity" (i.e. European American like Irish, Italian) and so on are often underrepresented at NPR and others overrepresented?

    6. Pear Satirical   1 year ago

      Same thing they did to Alex Jones and are doing now to Donald Trump.

  4. JesseAz   1 year ago

    The American College of Pediatricians issued a position statement on Wednesday opposing the gender transitioning of youth based on the literature review. It comes just after a watchdog group filed a scientific integrity complaint against Department of Health and Human Services official Rachel Levine for claiming that “there is no argument among medical professionals regarding “the value and the importance of gender-affirming care.”

    https://www.dailywire.com/news/pediatricians-group-says-research-doesnt-support-gender-affirming-treatments

    Well this is awkward for Jeff.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Richard Levine lies about his gender to make himself feel better. He will clearly lie about anything so long as he feels like it.

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      How nice of the approved expert community and our enlightened betters to come around to what everyone with the smallest bit of common sense figured out in 5 seconds. Lab leak / wet market energy here

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Facts changed.

    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "Well this is awkward for Jeff."

      Top men only count when he can pretend they're supporting his narratives.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        He seems like way more of a bottom man.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Pity he’s not a dead man.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Yeah, I sincerely doubt anyone would want Jeff on top of him/her.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            He played the bolder in 127 hours.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              That’s nothing. I hear he’s been given the title role in the upcoming ‘The Blob’ remake. The studio is saving millions on SFX and CGI.

          2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            I'm sure they're gay chubby chasers too.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              Wait, gay fat, or straight fat. Because gay fat is straight thin.

        3. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          a bottom man.

          When he's with an adult, probably so.

    4. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      They're shutting this shit down all over Europe. The US is an outlier.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        Canada is even further around the bend than the US on this shit. North America (not sure where Mexico is but it's government is pretty leftists, so I wouldn't be surprised if they're as far gone as the US and Canada) is, for the most part, the outlier here.

    5. R Mac   1 year ago

      Have you met Jeff? Nothing is awkward for him, he’ll be given his talking points at some point and show up without a care in the world.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        It’s easy when one is a morbidly obese, global Marxist, child grooming sociopath.

    6. Dillinger   1 year ago

      nothing is awkward for Jeff.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        You know. After defending the trans pedophile who molested an infant yesterday, I think you're right.

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          I missed that, but I assume it’s because you didn’t also present the side of the trans pedophile?

          1. Minadin   1 year ago

            Well, it was sort of presented, in the fact that the trans pedophile plead guilty to the charge, and there was an eyewitness, etc.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          defending the trans pedophile who molested an infant yesterday

          this is a lie. I never defended the trans pedophile. Not surprising from you though.

          I was pointing out the tactic that your team uses: dredge up every story you can find that puts trans people in a negative light and blast those all over the place. It is a deliberate strategy to vilify them.

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            Certain things just shouldn’t be talked about, eh Jeff?

            You’re fucking sick, dude.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              Yes, his defense seems to be if the pedophile is trans we can't mention their trans identity because it might prejudice people against trannies. It's not dissimilar to some progressives who believe we shouldn't mention a suspects identity in a BOLO because it might prejudice people towards certain races (with the underlying assumption that some races are more likely than others to be featured in a criminal BOLO).

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                Yes, his defense seems to be if the pedophile is trans we can’t mention their trans identity because it might prejudice people against trannies.

                I thought you had me on mute? How the hell would you know what my *actual* argument is?

                Oh wait, you are doing the same thing that Jesse, ML, etc., does, project a caricature onto a person and then argue against that instead.

                Go ahead and mention that a particular person is trans, that's fine. The problem is when right-wing media goes hunting for stories that put trans people in the worst possible light, and then push those stories. It is to create a misleading impression about trans people by ONLY putting stories about trans people doing bad things.

                You know, like how some on the left will push stories about mass shootings over and over, and will not hesitate to point out if the shooter is a right-winger or Trump supporter, while completely avoiding the mass shootings that happen on the south side of Chicago all the time. The point is to paint a misleading picture of Trump supporters as violent sociopaths. Right? Well it's the same deal here.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                  Wake me up when you get to the part where you support pedophile rights

          2. R Mac   1 year ago

            Yeah, stop vilifying pedophiles Jesse, it really upsets Lying Jeffy.

        3. DesigNate   1 year ago

          That’s not quite fair, he did offer up a condemnation of the act in his original reply to you.

          He just buried it in his crusade against anything you post, any cites you provide, and abject hatred that you might dare to engage in the culture war by hitting back at his preferred groups.

    7. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      American College of Pediatricians

      lol this is a right-wing front group. they support so-called 'gay conversion therapy' and use a veneer of science to support their right-wing views.

      1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

        "Gender affirming care" IS gay conversion therapy. It just attacks the body rather than the mind to achieve the same goal.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Sure Jeffy. Everyone who doesn’t support pedophile rights like you do is a ‘right wing front group’.

        You really are one evil tub of malignant goo.

    8. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      The American College of Pediatricians is a small group and is not widely recognized as the "real" professional association for pediatricians. That would be the American Academy of Pediatrics, which is still in thrall to genderism.

      1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

        Trans is a mental illness..you can no more be a different biological gender than you can a martian. Just wanting to be something doesn't make it so. Now you have the right to pretend all you want but if your mission is to convince kids who are dealing with a mental illness they are the opposite sex and to be sexually mutilated, you are a threat to society..this is what the bolsheviks and nazi's did.

  5. JesseAz   1 year ago

    Turley sins up the Hur report and DoJ.

    Jonathan Turley
    @JonathanTurley
    .....Biden is found to have "willfully retained" documents but he is still viewed as too "sympathetic" person for a potential jury. Conversely, Trump was clearly viewed as neither sympathetic nor sufficiently old to warrant such consideration.

    Hur found willful retention going back to 2010. Found wilfully disclosure of classified information to a ghostwriter to profit off the disclosure. He found destruction of evidence. He found Bidens team not cooperating, such as a time when Bidens lawyers refused to hand over a journal with classified information they reported.

    But we will here from the usual losers how Biden and Trump are different and only the latter deserves to go to trial.

    1. HorseConch   1 year ago

      How much longer do we have with the nice old man? It sure as hell looks like he's being setup to be gone. Unfortunately, many will look completely past the fact that he was absolutely unfit before the election and the media and handlers covered it up.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        The Hur report inferred his mental decline started in 2017.

        1. Minadin   1 year ago

          I dunno, he's been a bumbling idiot for a long assed time.

          Remember the Clarence Thomas hearings? When was that, 1991? 1992?

          “You know who really doesn’t have it?” “Joe Biden.” - Obama, 2008

          "Never underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up" - Obama, 2019

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Idiot yes. But back then was a calculating evil idiot. Bumbling idiot was probably 2nd Obama term when Obama said not to underestimate Joe's ability to fuck things up.

            1. Pear Satirical   1 year ago

              I don't know about calculating; he blatantly lied about getting three degrees at the top of the class and later dropped out of the 1988 presidential election when it came out he was a plagiarist.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                He’s been a liar and cheat his whole life. His surgeries made him a lot dumber.

        2. damikesc   1 year ago

          He couldn't even name when his son Beau died within several years.

        3. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

          His moral decline happened much earlier.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Calls for facts not in evidence, namely that he ever did have morals.

        4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          He’s been medically lobotomized since 1988, when he had his second aneurysm surgery. At least that’s how a neurosurgeon describe it. They had his brain opened up for over eight hours. And he was pretty stupid before all of that.

      2. Longtobefree   1 year ago

        Well, it's not like he is actually running the country or anything - - - - - - - - - - -

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Actually...

        2. Ben of Houston   1 year ago

          For good or for ill, let's be honest. Biden is a figurehead. The DNC is running the country. This is both good, that we don't have an actively senile man making these decisions, and bad, because a group of unelected political bosses are running the country instead of any actual elected leader.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            The part the media is largely ignoring, even on the right, is that this report, of accurate, pretty much destroys the argument that there isn't a deep state running things. Shit has been accomplished, mostly bad from my stance, the past three years, despite an enfeebled and mentally incompetent president.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

      Yep those sympathetic, traitorous pedofiles

    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      I like how they're still pretending Biden's position at the time afforded him the same legitimacy to hold those documents as Trump.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        If trump had cooperated he wouldn't be in trouble.

        -sarc

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          Trump's lawyers told him he was going to get into trouble if he didn't cooperate. He didn't cooperate and he got into trouble.

          -sarc

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            Apparently if he were a well-meaning elderly man, he also wouldn't get into trouble?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              If Biden can't be held accountable for this then I don't see how he can be president.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                You defended joe all along over the document scandal ("he cooperated"). Now that the writing on the wall seems to be that the dems want joe out, you have changed your position to go with theirs.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  That was the information that I had at the time.
                  Information has changed, so my opinion has changed with it.

                  You should try it sometime.

                  1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                    Oh ffs.

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    That isn't the information you had at the time. It was the bullshit narrative you were going with.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I don't consider links from you guys to be information. I've clicked a couple and never found them useful. It has to be from, or confirmed by, someone other than a raving right-wing lunatic for me to give it consideration.
                      *shrug*

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      The info about joe's documents was common knowledge and not dependent on "right wing lunatics"

                      Try again asshole.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Did he deliberately ignore request to return the documents, despite the advice of his attorneys? It's not whether or not he had the documents. It's what happened when people asked for them to be returned.

                    4. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      As far as "what's changed" goes, it's the system saying they're not going to prosecute him for being unfit. I think someone accidentally shot themselves in the foot with that one.

                    5. JesseAz   1 year ago (edited)

                      Well thats a bookmark from sarc.

                      He only trusts corporate media. Ignores all information against the narrative. Just like I've said for years.

                    6. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Sarc, if you read the report, Bidens lawyers refused to hand over classified documents to the FBI when asked. But you didnt read it. You looked up the Dem talking points lol.

                      He KNEW he had classified materials for decades. Yet you give him a pass because that's what your tribe tells you to do.

                    7. R Mac   1 year ago

                      Poor stupid sarc.

                    8. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      Ignores all information against the narrative.

                      Almost exclusively, you cite partisan right-wing media, which doesn't even hide the fact that they are pushing an agenda. Why should anyone outside of your right-wing bubble give those sources any credence?

                      You laugh at sources like Salon and HuffPost. Because they are biased and obviously so. Well, that is how everyone else views your sources like Federalist and Daily Wire. They are a joke when it comes to actual news.

                      Partisan media sites are the junk food of 'infotainment'. For the partisans, it feels good to consume them at the time, but over the long term, they rot your brain and do serious damage.

                    9. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      He only trusts corporate media.

                      Sane, rational people who don't have melted brains from years of consuming partisan media, know not to rely on The Federalist for unbiased news.

                    10. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      Has there ever been any real dispute about whether joe's documents predate his time as a president? This isn't a matter of salon vs federalist.

                    11. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      https://www.cnbc.com/2023/01/21/search-of-bidens-home-by-doj-finds-6-more-classified-documents.html

                      "Some of the items dated from Biden’s tenure in the Senate, where he represented Delaware from 1973 to 2009, Bauer said. And some of the items were from his tenure as vice president in the Obama administration, from 2009 through 2017."

                      That is cnbc a year ago reporting on the biden docs. You could easily find many other sources that are not the federalist or zerohedge, if you actually were interested in doing so.

                      This is not a right wing conspiracy, jeffsarc.

                    12. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      For as many times as jeff and sarc yell ad hominem incorrectly, they sure actually use ad hominem attacks constantly.

                    13. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      Joe Biden committed acts of espionage as a senator. Case closed. That he cooperated later matter about as much as Ted Buddy leading investigators to some of his victim’s bodies.

                      Stupid drunken piece of shit.

                  3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                    Hey drunky. It’s Friday. Why don’t you take a break from shilling for your precious democrats and go get blackout drunk. No one wants to listen to a moronic pussy like you anyway. M’kay bitch?

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            First, he did cooperate, fully. They gave the NARA timely access to everything they asked for. What you're parroting is a false narrative originating with the DNC.

            Second, why did he have to "cooperate"? When he took the copies of his work documents to Mar A Lago he was still president, as Judicial Watch vs NARA ruled for Clinton, the act of taking them declassified them. The government still held the originals and NARA had access to their own copies.

            1. JesseAz   1 year ago

              Yeap. Current precedence shows the president has the decision making power as to what are records, in the case you cite.

              Sarc will continue to ignore this.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                Current precedence shows the president has the decision making power as to what are records

                no, that is not true. The law determines which records are 'presidential records' or 'personal records', it is not up to the president's discretion. The president cannot take 'presidential records' with him after his term.

                1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

                  Speaking of retarded media sources:

                  “Daily Kos is facing financial hardships. Want to help? Best bang for your buck is to start a $3 monthly donation today.”

                  Maybe the tide really is turning. We can hope.

                  Well, not you of course. Haha.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                    LOL! Best wishes of Chapter 7 to them.

                2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Which law, Jeff?

                  Also, Judicial Watch vs NARA explicitly says otherwise.

                  1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                    Presidential Records Act, that law.

                    Also, Judicial Watch vs NARA explicitly says otherwise.

                    Okay, then cite the passage from the ruling that supposedly supports your claim.

                    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

                      You know it already you dishonest fuck. This is why everyone detests you. You keep trying to pull cheap shit and exhaust your adversaries with demands for evidence you’ve already received dozens of times. You were probably also hoping I wouldn’t post it so you didn’t lose 50 cents for this thread.

                      https://casetext.com/case/judicial-watch-inc-v-natl-archives-records-admin

                      “Under the statutory scheme established by the Presidential Records Act, the decision to segregate personal materials from Presidential records is made by the President during the President’s term, and in the President’s sole discretion.”
                      “The National Archives and Records Administration, or NARA, does not have the authority to designate material as ‘Presidential records.’” . . .
                      “NARA does not have the tapes in question, and NARA lacks any right, duty, or means to seize control of them.”
                      “[T]he President enjoys unconstrained authority to make decisions regarding the disposal of documents. . . . “[N]either the Archivist nor Congress has the authority to veto the President’s decision.”
                      The Presidential Records Act “does not confer any mandatory or even discretionary authority on the Archivist to classify records. Under the statute, this responsibility is left solely to the President of the United States.”

                      Now, cite where the Presidential Records Act backs up your claim, shill.

            2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              Judicial Watch vs NARA

              your team has consistently misrepresented the result of that decision, you are just repeating Trump's narrative.

              That court case only decided whether the government (NARA) could re-classify 'personal records' as 'presidential records' after the fact, and the answer was no. It said absolutely nothing about whether the president was justified in taking 'presidential documents' with him after the term.

              Trump wrongly thinks that that case exonerates him. You repeat it because you are his drooling fan.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                I remember when I posted the whole here one day, and you tried to twist a very explicit line or two to match your narrative, failed and then rage quit.

                When I get home tonight I will do the same.

            3. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

              They gave the NARA timely access to everything they asked for.

              that is not true. Trump deliberately concealed boxes and boxes of documents when NARA first asked for the documents.

              1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                Cite please, fat bastard.

                Give us a cite that explicitly shows that he deliberately concealed boxes and boxes of documents when NARA first asked for the documents.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                  I will give a citation once you give one of yours above.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

                    Alright you fat lying Nazi. I’ve provided the citations, that you knew existed and have already seen a dozen times.
                    Now it’s your turn.

                    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      He won’t respond. Then, in the next article, he will memory hole all of this and start over with his lies.

                      It’s the Pedo Jeffy way.

          3. DesigNate   1 year ago

            The law doesn’t have an “oops, my bad” clause. Meaning if they had still wanted to go after him for it, they would have.

    4. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      I keep telling anyone who will listen that it is just (D)ifferent! 🙂

    5. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      I am fine with throwing the book at both Biden and Trump.

      Are you?

      Answer: no.

      This report is more awkward for your team than you probably realize. That Biden hasn't been prosecuted (yet) is basically your only defense for why Trump shouldn't be prosecuted.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        Trump has already been indicted. I am sure you will soon be cheerleading for the same to happen to biden, jeff.

    6. Pear Satirical   1 year ago

      Impossible! I have been reliably informed that it's not a crime if you give it back!

  6. JesseAz   1 year ago

    A Michigan man who identifies as both transgender and Muslim has filed a legal claim against his ex-boyfriend demanding the return of his amputated testicles which he says are being kept in a jar in the refrigerator.
    .
    “Defendant retains possession of my surgically extracted testicles, preserved in [a] Mason jar, kept in [the] fridge next to the eggs. Demand immediate return of my human remains specimen and damages of $6,500.”
    .
    In April, Kingsley uploaded a video to his TikTok account titled “The Unboxing of Dee’s Nutz,” which depicts him removing a clear bag with a biohazard label while wearing a lace veil and a pink dress.

    https://reduxx.info/man-who-identifies-as-a-muslim-woman-files-legal-claim-to-retrieve-his-testicles-from-ex-boyfriends-fridge/

    Goodbye earth. Thanks for the fish.

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      This thing is in good standing in the democratic party. Hero, in fact.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        So brave.

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "They should tell their story to children at a library" - Creamjeff

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Before or after Drag Queen Story Hour (and burlesque)?

    3. mad.casual   1 year ago

      In April, Kingsley uploaded a video to his TikTok account titled “The Unboxing of Dee’s Nutz,” which depicts him removing a clear bag with a biohazard label while wearing a lace veil and a pink dress.

      But remember, Utah asking "Uh... shouldn't children be required to ask a parent before viewing this?" is the real sign of the apocalypse.

    4. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Some things just leave one speechless due to just how strange and odd they sound. This is one of them.

    5. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      This needs to be adjudicated in A Shariah court.

    6. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      Book me a seat next to the dolphins

  7. Mickey Rat   1 year ago (edited)

    Sony rolling the Funimation streaming site into Crunchyroll demonstrates that the consumer does not own digital media that they have purchased.

    https://nerdist.com/article/sony-sunsets-funimation-erases-users-purchased-library-content-increases-crunchyroll-prices/

    “‘We understand that you may have concerns about your digital copies from Funimation. These Digital copies available on Funimation were a digital access to the content available on the DVDs or Blu-rays purchased. Please note that Crunchyroll does not currently support Funimation Digital copies, which means that access to previously available digital copies will not be supported. However, we are continuously working to enhance our content offerings and provide you with an exceptional anime streaming experience. We appreciate your understanding and encourage you to explore the extensive anime library available on Crunchyroll.’

    The Verge shares that users who purchased DVDs and Blu-rays of certain anime all recieved digital copies of the content on Funimation as part of their purchase. Users were promised that they’d have access to those copies forever. But forever ends imminently. Although this instance might seem less cut and dry than, say, purchasing a movie on Amazon, it certainly feels pretty close to that arena.

    Regardless of the semantics, users believed they were also purchasing digital copies of their media when they purchased the physical copies. Now, Sony will simply erase that aspect of their purchase. On the heels of a similar incident with Discovery content on PlayStation, it feels like the start of a worrying trend. The least Sony could do is offer to replace some of the lost content. But the company gives no indication they have any desire to even make an attempt.”

    Buy physical media.

    1. damikesc   1 year ago

      I don't love looking to government --- but there REALLY needs to be some protection for digital purchases. This whole "You're just paying for a license" is utter bullshit. If they are taking my money, I should access to that content permanently. If they cannot afford that --- then do not offer it.

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      > Buy physical media.

      Buy .mp4s. Whose computer has an optical drive these days?

      1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

        Mine?

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        You can but one for 30 bucks with a USB as an external attachment. I have one. In a drawer. I haven't used in years.

      3. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

        That is fine. The important thing is that it is actually in your possession.

      4. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        I keep an old Mac mini with CD slot just for that reason.

      5. zCatLady   1 year ago (edited)

        My player just arrived from Amazon this morning. Going to be buying my CDs from here on out & saving to HDD. I can’t even make ringtones or baseball “walk-ons” with the downloaded digital copies I “own” and paid for.

    3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      The funny thing is that Crunchyroll got it's start as a pirate group.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Didn't they do their own translations of shows for the longest time?

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Yeah, I believe they were just a group of subbers who approached some Japanese rights holders and went legit. It was a long time ago. I liked watching anime when I was a teen.

    4. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      The cloud: your data on someone else's computer.

      That is to say, it's NOT your data anymore.

      Read a dead tree book; free at your local library.

      1. zCatLady   1 year ago

        I read the rent-a-copy first. If its good, I'll buy a hard copy. Then I know its mine.

        The libraries where I live carry few of the great classics on ebooks...just all of the trashy novels and junk magazines! And to get a libertarian book at our libraries... forget it!

    5. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      Sony rolling the Funimation streaming site into Crunchyroll demonstrates that the consumer does not own digital media that they have purchased.

      Wasn't there a recent article where a game company exec said that consumers are just going to have to get comfortable with the fact that they won't own their games and they'll be happy?

      1. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

        Yes, that was Ubisoft.

        1. BYODB   1 year ago

          Yeah, and the last game I bought from UbiSoft was From Dust and it is almost impossible to get working due to all the DRM...for a single player puzzle game.

          That was enough for me. UbiSoft can go fuck themselves.

    6. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      Start? This has been going on for some time now. I’ve made a number of purchases on the Apple App Store for digital versions of classic board games like Risk. After a few years, they are no longer usable, as the seller ceases to support newer versions of IOS. Then they come out with a separate version that requires in app purchases on a regular basis. It’s all a scam.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        You will own nothing...

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Yes, that’s the direction they’re going.

    7. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

      That too is getting harder to do. Warners is releasing made on demand videos, unlike the pressed ones they can deteriorate faster.
      Disney is not offering some of it's catalog to physical media, only streaming, Example is the last two seasons of the Muppet Show.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Time to break out the old VCR and VHS tapes to record off them like one used to do off cable.

  8. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

    Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) opposes minimum parking limits.

    But she loves having an insesuous relationship with her brother.

    And said she will do whatever is in the nest intrest of somalia

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      If she was actually having an incestuous relationship it would have at least made her actions slightly more legitimate.

      1. damikesc   1 year ago

        Sad state of affairs when "BANG YOUR BROTHER!" would legitimize anything.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Would hot twin sisters getting it on work for you?

          1. damikesc   1 year ago

            Who would that not work on?

            1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago

              illian Omar?

              Bam! Brought that back full circle!

  9. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    More creeping reality in Colorado (from the Denver Post):

    Hospitals’ uncompensated care for migrants in Colorado “is not sustainable,” UCHealth warns

    University of Colorado Hospital in Aurora provided $10 million in uncompensated care in just 3 months

    Just too cold for food trucks now?

    1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      Surging Immigration Will Reduce Deficits by $1 Trillion

      Reason, yesterday

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        That's true. AOC told us yesterday how true it is. As a master stateswoman with an economics degree, her word is better than gold.

    2. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Welcome to Arizona in the 2000s.

      Luckily I have been told Arizona is the richest state in the country due to all the illegal profit.

      1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

        I remember visiting a Swap Meet in Tucson some years ago. Nearly everything for sale was pirated. CDs, DVDs, T-shirts etc.

        Oh, sorry. Different illegal profit.

        1. JesseAz   1 year ago

          Tanque Verde Swapmeet by chance? Where Friday night the southside dresses up in their best Kohls fashion to get drunk while browsing?

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            It was Tanque Verde, but I do not recall any fashion trends. Everybody was drinking. 🙂

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      That's insane, given that Aurora had already been overtaken with illegal immigrants, mostly from Mexico, starting in about 2000. Aurora went from a relatively conservative surburb to a Dem-dominant city over the last 25 years primarily because of that.

      1. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Family reunification. The surge is quick after initial individuals come over.

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Aurora also became more entertaining with daily gang bang escapades and crazy cop shenanigans.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          And the reality is that those two things are specifically linked. The most abusive cops in the country are the ones in ghetto areas, because they're dealing with the lying, shady refuse of human society on a daily basis, to the point where they think acting like an abusive asshole is the only way to keep things from going off the rails.

          There's a reason things settled down in north Aurora for a short while in the late 90s-early 00s after the gangbangers started being thrown in prison.

    4. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      Hospitals’ uncompensated care for migrants in Colorado “is not sustainable,” UCHealth warns

      Good. Jam it to them, jam it to them hard. Keep jamming it to them until Reason fully retracts its retarded "business license" article and apologizes to me personally.

    5. JFree   1 year ago

      That's not some community hospital. It's the main hospital for the UC system aka Anschutz. Maybe 10,000 employees there. Idk what their foundation/endowment is - and IMO it would be better used for CO residents - but uncompensated care is exactly what endowments of nonprofits should be used for.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        And that's just UC Health. I'd love to see what the ledgers at Children's right next door look like right now.

        1. JFree   1 year ago (edited)

          Denver Health is probably the hospital hit hardest since it is the safety-net hospital for the city anyway.

          And sure enough there’s some articles about that. There have been roughly 36,000 illegals coming to Denver since Dec 2022. They have made 20,000 Denver Health visits – mostly for dental emergencies, mental health (that’s Venezuela), and maternity. And

          This group (foreign, new to the system, uninsured) of patients were identified as new to Denver Health, as those without medical insurance and from one of the following countries: Colombia, El Salvador, Ecuador, Guatemala, Honduras, Nicaragua and Venezuela. Lion share are from Venezuela.

          The Venezuela issue is not a US-Mexico border problem. 5-7 million Venezuelans have left Venezuela to everywhere in the last year or two. Yes R’s are assholes as always and are incapable of dealing with anything other than demonizing the refugees. Yes the open borders crowd are incompetent assholes who rather like encouraging shitty governance and tyranny everywhere because it creates refugees.

          But it’s not a US-Mexico border problem. We are just failing to solve the real problem – in concert with the other countries suffering from the Venezuela refugee problem – Colombia, Peru, Panama, Chile, Argentina, Spain – so it shows up at our border like its some fucking surprise.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            More leftist narratives. Lol. On a roll this week.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Come on. Just accept that bad things anywhere in the world are our fault. And by our, I mean Americans who actually pay taxes.

              1. JFree   1 year ago

                We can either help fix the problem there. Or fail to fix it here. Either way - we're not going to be able to ignore it. No matter how much your ilk just wants to stick your head up your ass and yell lalalalalalala I can't hear you.

                1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago (edited)

                  Or control the border. We have an Air Force and Navy to take care of shit overseas.

                  Sorry if this does not satisfy your empathy urges. Spend your own money on that.

                  1. JFree   1 year ago

                    Has little to do with empathy. You are simply an idiot.

                    1. Truthfulness   1 year ago

                      It's got everything to do with empathy. Do not make our lives unnecessarily harder.

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        Uncompensated care for illegals is fine because someone else is paying for it is one hell of a take.

        You've been on quite the left talking point bender this week.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          It's time for someone to finally put ol' JFree down. The senility has gotten too advanced. MAID in the corn crib.

    6. Agammamon   1 year ago

      But in 30 years some of those guys will be running successful businesses so its all good that other people carry that debt right now.

      Remember - its not a burden. There are no burdens or drawbacks to unlimited immigration.

    7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      And more today from the Denver Post:

      Denver recreation centers, DMV offices are first to cut back hours to help pay for migrant crisis
      Mayor Mike Johnston outlines plan to shave $5 million from city budget after border deal’s collapse

      Let's be like NYC!

  10. Jerry B.   1 year ago

    "My son, playing with a rather sparse East German toy kitchen..."

    Nope. That's a real East German Kitchen, for everyone on two floors of that housing block.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      And it was in the Museum then too.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        Knock knock, who's there?

        Masks.

        Masks who?

        Masks aren't just Talismans!

        Get it?

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          What's the difference between Arlington National Cemetery and a New York retirement home?

          The Superintendent of Arlington National Cemetery never got caught groping anyone.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      You beat me by 5 minutes.

  11. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

    "Tucker Carlson interviewed Russian President Vladimir Putin."

    1. Looking forward to hearing J(ew)Free, Creamjeff and Sarckles lose their shit and call him a traitor for committing an act of journalism, even though the US is not at war with Russia or even a declared enemy.

    2. Looking forward to hearing J(ew)Free, Creamjeff and Sarckles lose their shit and claim Carlson was platforming practically Hitler even though the invasion of Ukraine is no worse and more justified than Iraq, Syria, Afghanistan and Libya were. I wish Russia and the Ukraine would have negotiated, but this is like the US civil war if the South had been on it's own for 70 years.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Honestly, the mistake was really treating it like a one-on-one press conference and showing this live. Putin does these things pretty regularly with the Russian press, and it's not uncommon for him to go for a couple of hours at a time. He's very dry and acts more like a Cold War-era national leader, which is understandable given his KGB background. It's not really his nature to indulge in soundbites and snaps like western politicians do, who are really talking for the benefit of the schoolyard western press, not the populations of their countries.

      Carlson would have been better served to record the interview, and then cut it down to about 20-30 minutes of the most relevant material, while making the raw footage available for whomever wanted to actually slog through the whole thing.

      1. HorseConch   1 year ago

        I haven't, and probably won't, watched it, but I prefer these things being uncut. The criticism of them is much less useful when the whole thing is out there.

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Yep. You can't argue about dishonest framing when you just show the whole thing, no edits, in its entirety. Trump, for one, has complained about editing during his 60 Minutes interviews.

        2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

          You know else preferred certain things uncut?

      2. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        Red, I disagree. I want to hear what Putin says, unedited.

        Our POTUS is cognitively impaired. We need to know what our adversary is thinking, unfiltered by our government. Can we trust our government to tell us the truth? Sadly not.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          Can you imagine what Joe might say over 2 hours of uncurated conversation?

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

            I think we just found out from the special counsel.

          2. HorseConch   1 year ago

            That's the kind of thing that needs a sports book running in-game betting on.

          3. shadydave   1 year ago

            "So Cornpop came after me with a switchblade, and I says 'you best come correct with that, Jack!' So I give him a bit of what for..."

      3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

        That’s the mindset of the days when you were releasing to a mass audience rather than an audience that was specifically looking for your content.

        Also, editing the content would have opened him up to accusations of bias and selective editing.

        1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

          Yup.

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          Sure, I get that, but westerners have too short of an attention span to sit through a 30-minute discourse on the history of that region (some of which was obviously selective and biased regarding Poland in particular). Now, I don't mind that, but most people in our sphere are going to tune out after about 2-5 minutes unless they're history buffs.

          And Carlson, I'm certain, realizes that he's going to be the recipient of bad-faith criticisms anyway.

          1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

            Red, I get what you're saying = Putin will talk about the 800 years of Eastern European history from a Russian POV and air their grievances.

            As Americans, we should know these things. And if we do not know them, find out. This is what they (the Russians) believe, and what is motivating them to act. We are hearing it from Putin unfiltered. There is no harm in listening to the man talk.

            One very important thing I heard: Putin stated unequivocally that Russia had zero interest in Poland and/or Latvia. We will see.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              It's quite possible that Putin doesn't have an interest in either place. Both Poland and Latvia are, and have been a part of Western Civilization. Thus, they've looked westward as opposed to Russia for a very long time, even under the rule of the Empire and the Soviets. Eastern Ukraine and Georgia are a part of Orthodox Civilization. Thus, part of those countries have intermingled with Russia and Russians over the centuries. I get the feeling that Putin feels that anything Western would be too much of a hassle to go after.

            2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              How about a history quiz (and economics, civics, science, and geography quiz) in the voting booth?

          2. R Mac   1 year ago

            This is changing though, and for the good. Look at the increase in popularity in long form interviews on podcasts, vs the decline in cable news.

            Just look at the number of views of Tucker’s interview vs the ratings of all the cable news shows on at the same time.

      4. JFree   1 year ago

        It’s not really his nature to indulge in soundbites and snaps like western politicians do,

        No. Like most Russians, he will spend at least an hour going over 1000 years of grievances (invented or real - doesn't matter).

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          This so pretty typical of most of Europe, especially Central and Eastern Europe, it comes from having a history older than 400 years, with much of it in view in every day life. Why do so many Civil War buffs live in Virginia? Because you can't travel anywhere in Virginia, especially Northeast Virginia without running across some portion of Civil War history, only in Europe it's much more evident with castles that date back to the middle ages, ruins from Rome and Greece common, iron age and bronze age ruins and sites usually within short distances from where you live, when just about every other construction project unearths archeological sites dating as far back as the stone age. Resurface a road in western Germany, you unearth an ancient road that dates to the days of Charlemagne. Repave a road in Norway, discover a pre-Viking age harbor. Dig a basement in London and discover a plague mass cemetery. Go for a hike, find an iron age sword or a bronze age arrow. Farmer plowing his field, find artifacts from the first and second world war, the Franco-Prussian War, the Napoleonic Wars, the Seven Years War etc. There's also a lot of Royal and Noble families still kicking around Europe that were ennobled or Royal in countries that are no longer monarchies, while there are also still a lot of monarchies still hanging around and even royalist movements still in existence in the modern non-monarchies. The church you attend could be a monastery that was first created by Henry II or William I or even Alfred. Your town hall could still have the coat of arms of the Holy Roman Empire carved into it's foundation or columns. You may even speak a separate language at home other than the governmental or dominant language and not because you're a recent immigrant, like in the US. People still wear traditional dress, and not just on ceremonial occasions. History is a part of most Europeans daily life, rather they acknowledge it or not.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            And even in Amerindian history, most of it starts around or after contact, with the vast majority of the pre-contact civilizations having disappeared around the time of contact. Several, like the Missippian cultures, Anasazi declining prior to contact, and others, such as the Mayan and even the Incan and Aztec already declining or showing signs of decline at the time of contact. What replaced them is the people we are familiar with and many of those cultures developed acter contact, some several centuries after contact. For example, what would become the Apache and Navajo cultures had either just began or hadn't yet started their migration from western Canada at the time of Columbus's voyages, nor had the proto-Lakota or Comanche cultures. There was no Iroquois Confederacy. The tribes that inhabited Florida largely ceased to exist by the end of the 16th century and we're likely related to the Caribbean tribes and little if anything survives of their culture. The Seminole are a branch of the Creek, who largely didn't migrate into the territory until the early 19th century and almost exclusively after the American Revolution at the earliest. Which means the Spanish Colonists had a longer history in Florida than it's most famous tribe (the same for the American Southwest). Archeologists are only begining to unearth pre-columbian civilizations. An example is the fairly recently discovered civilization in the Western Amazon which had been considered largely unpeopled except subsistence hunter gatherer societies before contact. Most of these cultures had no written language or a written language we have failed to decipher and few are even mentioned in latter culture's we're more familiar with oral traditions. So, even in terms of Amerindians their history, while they claim it is ancient, is mostly post contact, the same as descendants of European settlers and often intertwined. This makes the history of western hemisphere largely recent. We simply don't have the frame of mind to understand cultures that date back millennia.

    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      You'll be waiting a while. I don't demonize journalists for interviewing people.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Give it a few hours. You just got your welfare check and it’s early on a Friday. I figure the drunken raging will kick in by 6 PM EST.

        That sound about right drunky?

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        You spent the last 2 days demonizing him. For this interview. Lol.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Does he honestly not remember what he typed earlier this week? Was it that darn Tulpa again?

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            No, just good old fashioned MD 20/20.

            1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              Handle of Everclear.

          2. JesseAz   1 year ago

            He is a pathological liar. Drunk or sober.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Yes, you kind of did over the last couple of days.

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      I wish Russia and the Ukraine would have negotiated

      They did.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        To a point, and then the US sent Boris Johnson in to tell Zalinskyy that the UK and US had his back, and would supply them with arms and to tell Putin to fuck right off, and so the negotiations cratered.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          Putin covered that in the interview and says Russia has always been ready to negotiate.

    4. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      Barbara Walters interviewing Putin - Brave journalism
      George Stephonoclintonous interviewing Putin - Brave Journalism
      PBS clown interviewing Putin - Brave Journalism

      Carson interviewing Putin - Treason!

      I just wish they were both riding bears

    5. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

      Yesterday when this story was discussed, I didn't call him a traitor, and I didn't object to him interviewing Putin.

      Yet more evidence that ML doesn't read what I write and just projects his stereotype onto me in order to deliberately lie about me and slander me.

      Keep this in mind next time ML calls me a Nazi.

      1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        You did call him a bag of slime, jeff, you dehumanizing vermin.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          He really is a Nazi.

        2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

          Thank you for admitting in your own way that what I said above is true.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            You always think you can trick thread readers with sophistry that wouldn't fool a baby.

  12. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

    "t's funny/sad/astonishing that we're in a situation where trump's multiple indictments were political advantageous to him, and biden's exoneration is politically terrible for him"

    How is that astonishing? Even if you think Trump is evil incarnate, the quality of the indictments show a pattern of political persecution. The reason for Biden's exoneration is that he was judged mentally incompetent to be held responsible for his actions by the counsel.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      They have to continue to defend the political lawfare as justified.

  13. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'Yesterday, Special Counsel Robert K. Hur released a report saying that, though his "investigation uncovered evidence that President [Joe] Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen," he will not be prosecuted, as "it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."'

    Yes, the new American grounding for legal justice: people pre-judged cuddly and scatter-brained are immune to prosecution. What about people pre-judged as mean (and a threat to democracy)?

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Its not political use of the law!!!

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        You know, if a POTUS cannot stand trial because he is cognitively challenged, how is it he can be POTUS? Did the cognitive challenges just magically go away?

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Democrats are living contradictions.

    2. damikesc   1 year ago

      The trial would also occur in DC and there is zero chance of a Democrat being convicted of much of anything there.

    3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

      Maybe a better reason than skin color or immigration status for deciding not to prosecute.

  14. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

    "Of course, during those same remarks, Biden mixed up the countries of Mexico and Egypt, seemingly proving Hur's point."

    You can't make this stuff up.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      Eh, all these brown people look the same, to be fair.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

        On a more serious note, it’s obvious at the point that the Dems are trying to figure out how to ease this dude out of office with whatever shreds of his dignity are left, while doing enough to keep it secured.

        Harris is just as unpopular as Biden is. If they recruit Newsom, who’s clearly the heir apparent, the man’s going to spark an actual nullification crisis with his California attitude. Buttigieg is waiting in the wings and probably expects something in return for dropping out immediately after Clyburn endorsed Biden. Odds are right now, I bet, they’re talking to Polis to gauge his interest and are thinking of ways to highlight how he’s pushed back against his retarded party members in the Colorado state house, so he’s a bit more palatable in purple states like Iowa. They may even be talking with Liz Cheney in the expectation that the Dems will vote for whomever has a (D) after their name, while finally solidifying the neocon vote for the next couple of generations.

        1. Longtobefree   1 year ago

          The plan remains the same.
          Just before the convention, Jill will, with deep regret, report crazy old Joe has sniffed his last kiddie hair, and must resign due to (unspecified) health concerns. Kamala steps up, and Gov Gruesome is appointed VP. The day after the convention, Kween Kamala is booted by the 25th, and incumbent president Gruesome sweeps the democrats to a massive mandate victory, including retaining the senate and recovering the house.

          1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

            This is the line in the sand.

          2. damikesc   1 year ago

            Legally, honestly, can they do that?

            I thought the whole "The party chooses the candidate" stuff ended and it has to be done publicly.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Aren't you adorable!

              1. damikesc   1 year ago

                Dammit. I'm not cynical ENOUGH yet!

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

              "I will make it legal."

              Seriously, the only truly competitive primaries I can recall in my lifetime were the 2016 GOP one, due to Trump's grassroots popularity; and Obama and Hillary, and that's because each of them had devoted adherents in the party's infrastructure that the DNC couldn't afford to do their normal "selected, not elected" nomination process. That's the whole point of the primary structure, to get the presumptive nominee determined as quickly as possible so the campaign team can start building a strategy before the general.

              A truly competitive nomination process wouldn't even have primaries, and do it the old-fashioned way where people had their names put up during the convention and the delegates voted.

              1. Outlaw Josey Wales   1 year ago

                Didn't the DNC stick it to Bernie Sanders in the 2016 when it looked like he was going to take the nomination away from Hillary? 'It's Her Turn' was more than a campaign slogan.

                1. shadydave   1 year ago

                  Bernie never actually had the votes. What he had was the ability to drag things out and badly damage Hillary to the point where she would no longer be assured of easily winning the general election. So they kneecapped him. And then oops.

                2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                  They stuck it to him twice. The DNC email dump showed that they were working to undermine it at the grassroots level. That's why Tulsi, who was a Bernie supporter, resigned her DNC seat and started appealing to Trump's base by promoting her non-interventionist credentials.

                  In 2020, right after Bernie kicked Biden's ass in Nevada and it looked like the convention might be contested, Clyburn came out right before South Carolina as the DNC mouthpiece to "endorse" Biden, when it was really the DNC confirming that Biden was going to be the nominee.

          3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Could there be a tragic plane crash, or is that too Putin-y?

          4. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Pshortly thereafter there is a full scale revolution.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Funny, there's a YouTube guy (on the right) who put out a video last night about how ripe the US is for just such a thing.

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                Tim Pool? That sounds like something he'd bring up.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago (edited)

                  No, a guy who started off doing what-if history videos and migrated to analyzing human societies – whatifalthist.

                  The video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yaGc4jMGcVU

                  I found him quite by accident a few years ago while looking up alternative histories for the Byzantine Empire.

          5. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

            “…. due to (unspecified) health concerns.”

            Close. It’ll be (unspecified) cancer, like chuckie across the pond. Very treatable, mind you, and survivable for years, but outstanding public servant that he is, he feels he owes it to the country to step aside and let some young blood take over. At this time we’d like for you all to respect our privacy as we deal with this health issue.

            And Brandon rides off into the sunset with possibly a slight shred of dignity.

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          "They may even be talking with Liz Cheney in the expectation that the Dems will vote for whomever has a (D) after their name, while finally solidifying the neocon vote for the next couple of generations."

          More likely than you think. They proved the average (D) voter will vote for whatever the legacy media tells them, and the average (R) voter will automatically do the opposite.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            Cheney is clearly thirsty to get back into the political arena and it would be dangerous to underestimate her, given her pedigree and the fact that her father took briefings in asymmetrical warfare from Col. John Boyd himself and applied them to politics.

            Bear in mind that she finagled her way into the House Republican Conference chairmanship after just two years in office, by undermining Cathy McMorris Rodgers behind the scenes. She's definitely her father's daughter, and if she sees an angle she's going to work it.

            1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

              Can she do that from Wyoming, or will Liz relocate? Western slope Colorado?

              1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                Where she says she's from is immaterial for a Presidential run, but I suspect if she did, she'd list McLean, Virginia as her official residence. She's lived there most of her adult life anyway, and it's telling that when she did need to establish residence in Wyoming in 2012, she bought her property in the champagne socialist haven of Jackson Hole, rather than somewhere more conservative like Cheyenne, Casper, Cody, or Sheridan.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  The problem with Liz Cheney replacing Kamala Harris is that she's white. I get the feeling the Dems are looking for a diversity hire for the position (see my potential candidates below).

                  1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

                    Admiral Levine, trans jewish..perfect for the democratic party iluminati

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Well, who do the Dems really have if they need to replace Harris, if they can replace Harris? My understanding from the O'Keefe interview is that they would like to replace Harris, but are afraid of offending both women and blacks if they do so.

          Newsom - California governor very unpopular in the rest of the country. Has the charisma of a slimy, slick used car salesman.

          Pritzker - Illinois governor who can go toe-to-toe at a buffet line with Christie. Unpopular in red states, and many blue states, but brings money to the table.

          Buttigieg - Former mayor who can't even run the DOT properly. My guess is he'll make Newsom look good.

          Polis - Governor McDreamy looks good in comparison to Newsom and Pritzker. He might be able to fool some voters like he's been able to fool a number of Reason writers.

          My guess is none of the above and they'll look for a diversity hire, someone black and female to replace Harris so as not to offend those two constituents. But who?

          There are some Senators who might fit the bill.

          * Laphonza Butler, California - Union organizer, SEIU Caliornia president

          * Tammy Duckworth, Illinois - She's not black, but she's in a wheelchair, and she's served in Iraq and the Illinois National Guard

          You have to think outside the box here, and look at people who they might choose to replace Harris with; who they think might be the diversity equivalent of Harris.

          1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

            Oprah?

          2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

            they would like to replace Harris, but are afraid of offending both women and blacks if they do so.

            Newsom & Michelle Obama would fix that problem.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Problem is, also according to that O'Keefe interview, Michele Obama doesn't want it, and apparently Barack drove her nuts with his political ambition.

              Newsom could try the Trudeau route with blackface.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                That's why I think they may be looking outside the box at Senators and maybe even Representatives. None of the Democrat governors are both black and female, with just the Mayor of DC being both, Muriel Bowser, and all of her experience is within DC.

                Oprah has far too many who dislike her, and she might view the presidency as a step down.

                Of state lieutenant governors, we have the following who are both black and female:

                * Julia Stratton, Illinois.

                * Tahesha Way, New Jersey.

                * Sabina Matos, Rhode Island.

                Not so sure how the Dems feel about each of these, but again, they're all potentials to replace Harris.

                1. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

                  Also part of the 25th amendment
                  Section 2:
                  Whenever there is a vacancy in the office of the Vice President, the President shall nominate a Vice President who shall take office upon confirmation by a majority vote of both Houses of Congress.

                  Of course there's no telling if some republicans (ma principles) would commit to sandbagging whoever's nominated.

                2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                  Stacey Abrams?

                  1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                    She’s already busy as Governor of Georgia.

                3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                  Ilhan Omar?

                  Lori Lightfoot?

                  Ayana Presley?

                  Sheila Jackson-Lee?

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

                Problem is, also according to that O’Keefe interview, Michele Obama doesn’t want it, and apparently Barack drove her nuts with his political ambition.

                Shit, Michelle's gone on record saying how much their marriage suffered for about a decade because of that. Stories that she's running are pure wishcasting.

              3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                It might also help if he threw on a dress and insist that this is now how he identifies, as a sassy black woman.

              4. shadydave   1 year ago

                Well, you could go full on Alex Jones and say maybe the guy knew he was being setup and was trying to spread disinformation about Michelle. I believe she remains the distant third favorite to win the general election in the betting markets.

          3. R Mac   1 year ago

            Michelle?

          4. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            I don't think we're really going to see wild cards. The Dems might pander to their far-left fringe, but adminstratively they are very much an establishment-run party.

            That's actually how Harris got the VP nom to begin with; her checkboxes were fine, but it's really because she's one of Hillary's creatures, and she was clearly being positioned as the presumptive nominee before Tulsi shanked her in that second debate.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              That's why I stopped only at Senators, lieutenant governors, and the DC Mayor that might fit the checkboxes they want. Anyone else is too far outside the Dem establishment. However, the comments regarding how to replace Harris from the O'Keefe interview keep running around in my head over it.

              Being as Harris is Hillary's creature, that may be a factor in keeping her on while doing a 25A on Biden, no matter how much some of the rank and file may hate Harris (and Hillary).

          5. Super Scary   1 year ago (edited)

            “Tammy Duckworth, Illinois – She’s not black, but she’s in a wheelchair, and she’s served in Iraq and the Illinois National Guard”

            Oooooo, the classic kind of inclusion. Like in Glee or the Burger King Kids Club, you always want to have: a white, an Asian, a black, a brown, a woman and a kid in a wheelchair. You can have more of each if you want, but you need at least one.

          6. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

            But the dem whole platform is abortion and not Trump. So any can run. They just have to hope people are still stupid enough to vote for a rock again over Trump or 3rd party.

    2. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

      They didn't vote for him, hence, not egyptian

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Huh? They can certainly make stuff up, which accounts for 90% of most planned political speech. And I am sure most of the left-media is treating any account of Biden's closing gaffe as made up.

    4. JFree   1 year ago

      He wasn't expecting the Spanish Inquisition

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        this bird is no more.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

          Pineing for the fjords.

    5. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      You can’t make this stuff up.

      Yes you could, it's that no one would believe you.

  15. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

    'My son, playing with a rather sparse East German toy kitchen'

    Liz, are you so sure it was a toy kitchen?

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      The black market in Easy Bake ovens kept families fed through the Hard Times.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        Proof that libertarianism works-- people just go around the rules!

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      Robot portraiture

      Is that Liz in the far left picture? The robot did a great job on the sweet duck lips.
      🙂
      😉

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Settle down.

  16. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    “He spent first 30 minutes bitching over 800 years of historical grievances..”

    "Tucker, let me explain to you why there's so much polarization in your country..."
    "You mean like from the 1968 protests, or....."
    "No! You see, back in 793 AD, the first Viking raids took place at Lindisfarne..."

    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago (edited)

      He kind of had a legitimate reason to do so. The Russians got their start as the Kievan Rus in Kiev 800 years ago. The Ruthenians (Ukrainians) are a dialectical group of Rus just like the Russians.

      An American equivalent to what’s happening here is if 70 years ago the American government broke the country up into regions to give it more seats at the UN.

      40 years later the government fell, and the Northeast Atlantic region, including the city of Philadelphia where the American nation was founded, decided to be their own country.

      The Warsaw Pact started sniffing around and asking the Northeast if they wanted to join them.

      Yankee puritans started attacking and killing people with a Midwest or Southern accent, and those who identify as American.

      The new American government uses this as an excuse to invade the Northeast. The Warsaw Pact props up the Northeast and sends it intel, money and arms.

      Not a perfect analogy, but it’s close.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

        Yeah I think Americans find this obsession with ancient history odd. Because we're not ancient. But Europe is. And Russia is hardly unique. There are ethnic animosities and alliances going back many centuries. Ukraine as a nation state is a relatively recent phenomenon. David Stockman calls it a fake nation. The region has always been within the Russian sphere and for centuries was known as little Russia. People may find all of this boring but to the people of Donbas it's still a big deal. Which is why we are where we are today.

      2. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

        I can’t speak for many Americans, but I think they don’t really understand the transient nature of political boundaries. They assume that national borders are some kind of permanent fixture. They assume that if there’s a country, it must have always been there.

        Because America, aside from the northern border, has really straightforward natural boundaries. There’s a major river to the south, and there are oceans to the east and west. There’s not much arguing about what it means to be American versus being Mexican.

        People don’t realize that there was never really a Ukraine prior to 1917. It was an area under the Kievan Rus principalities, then the Kingdom of Poland and Lithuania, then it was partly ruled by Austria and the Ottoman Empires, then in the time of Catherine the Great, it was mostly absorbed into Russia. But not all of what we consider the modern borders were incorporated into the Russian Empire at the time. The first time there was a unified Ukrainian state was during the Russian Revolution, where it was the Ukrainian People’s Republic for less than a year, and then absorbed back into the USSR as a constituent state.

        That is to say, it’s not a nation with a long national history. It’s almost always been under some other national territory. That’s why there can be strong disputes over what are properly the eastern borders of Ukraine and what is properly Russian territory because they were the same political entity under the Soviet Union and those distinctions were fairly meaningless. Russians moved in and out, like moving from Nebraska to Kansas.

        That doesn’t mean I agree with what the Russians have done. They’ve meddled in local elections, especially in the Crimea back in 2014, raising serious questions about local sovereignty. Their attack on Ukraine isn’t the first war of aggression they’ve committed as they did the same thing back in 2008 in Georgia. But there’s actual reasons some of these questions of territory and sovereignty are fuzzy that Americans don’t ever deal with.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          But there’s actual reasons some of these questions of territory and sovereignty are fuzzy that Americans don’t ever deal with.

          All too true. It's not like we fight with Canada over Point Roberts, Isle Royale, or Pelee Island, or even with Mexico over the Southwest or Baja California.

          It's been said many times that Europeans think 100 miles is a long way and American think 100 years is a long time. The latter is far too true in this instance.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            "54-40 or Fight"

            But yeah, you're right.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              That was settled in 1846 by simply extending the 1818 line (49th parallel) west. Most of the 54-40 or fight stuff was a bluff by Polk to get what he really wanted - the 49th. Now, let's discuss the Pig War. 😉

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          The closest thing we have here is West Virginia. Split off from what was otherwise a well established political entity during a war. Are there any other US states that have calved like that since their initial layout?

      3. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        The perfect example of how inconsistent national boundaries and national identity are in Central and Eastern Europe is Poland. Poland for most of it's history was a landlocked country or only had real shoreline due to it's union with Lithiunia (which also used to be a much larger country). Most of what we now label as Poland was actually part of Germany (which stretched at one point all the way to the Baltic nations). Before that it was the country of Prussia (joined in union with Brandenburg but outside the Empire) and before that the Teutonic Knight kingdoms. We have to almost a millennium, before the Slavic Crusades, to find a period when this wasn't largely German controlled territory. But after 1919 the Poles were given a corridor through East Prussia to the sea, and after 1945 the Soviets took over huge chunks of Poland in the East (much of which just happens to be land now in Ukraine) and in exchange the Poles were given what was inarguably part of Germany (note the Poles were never consulted on this either). Additionally, most of the Baltic coast was Swedish and to a lesser extent Danish, territory until the 18th century and Finland (which was part of the Swedish Empire) extended to the White Sea. Even today, the northern two Baltic nations self identify as Nordic countries. Lutheranism is either the largest or second/third largest denomination in the three Baltic countries. German, Swedish and Danish are also recognized languages. Before Peter I, Russia had no Baltic shoreline. This is another reason the whole colonizer, colonized, settler etc narrative is bullshit, because national borders are not fixed. Hell, until the 18th century, even the borders between England and Scotland were constantly in flux (only being fixed by law after the union between the two was enacted). To this day there is territory that is disputed between the US and Canada and between Canada and Denmark (Greenland). Luckily these are rather low level, meaningless disputed but officially still the border is in areas disputed.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          We have to almost a millennium, before the Slavic Crusades, to find a period when this wasn’t largely German controlled territory.

          Wasn't Poland its own mini-empire from about the 1400s to 1700s, to include Ukraine and Lithuania?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Yes, the Polish-Lithuanian Commonwealth. At its height, it extended from the Baltic Sea to almost the Black Sea.

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Polish%E2%80%93Lithuanian_Commonwealth

            Eventually it was divvied up during the Partitions of Poland.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              But most of the coastline was a result of the union with Lithiunia, as I stated. It was a large empire but it's Baltic coast was mostly Lithuanian territory.

            2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              It appears that the last time the Kingdom of Poland had an extensive Baltic coastline was 1025, and that the Duchy of Poland only controlled a small sliver of Baltic coastline. The situation becomes even less clear, as some of the Baltic Coastline in 1025 was within the Holy Roman Empire, and the Kingdom of Poland only controlled it in suzerainty to the Emperor. The problem is that until the growth of nationalism in the early modern period, international borders were less defined, with large areas defined as Marches/frontiers, with the ruling lords in suzerain to one kingdom or another, or both. This was a major contributor to the constant warfare between France and England during the Middle Ages, as the King of England held extensive heraldic lands in France, thus was a vassal of the French King in his role as the lord of those French lands, but as a King himself, didn't want to swear suzerainty to the French King, and the English people also didn't want to be seen as vassals of France. This was a similar problem between the various Welsh Kings and Scottish Kings and the English King, most notably during the reigns of the first three Edwards.

          2. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            And most of what we call Poland today, was not polish territory during this time period. It was part of the Holy Roman Empire or Brandenburg-Prussian Territory. What was then Poland was further east, only about a third of modern Poland is what was originally thought of as Poland. Most of what was traditionally Poland is now part of Ukraine and Belarus.

        2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          There were large German-speaking populations all along the Baltic coast all the way to Estonia in pre-WWII days, including my own ancestors. But 23andMe says my ancestry is mostly Swedish. So, yeah, a situation with shifting tides of populations, with the idea of "homelands" not terribly valid.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Which is another issue, there were a number of Holy Roman Empire duchies, electorates and counties that were held by foreign nobles. Hannover in the 18th century. Schleswig-Holstein (the former is part of modern Germany for the most part, the latter part of Denmark). Pomerania in Northeast Germany and Western Poland, which was controlled in part by the Kings of Sweden after the 30 years war. Royal marriage and inheritance further blurred the lines, as did formal and informal suzerainty, such as Brittany and Gascon, which viewed themselves as independent but in Suzerain to France, while the French viewed them entirely as part of France, and Gascon was part of the old Duchy of Aquaitaine which had been controlled by the English Crown since Henry the II, along with Normandy by William, until it's loss under John, while the English throne largely never acknowledged it's loss of Duchy of Normandy persisting even into the early modern period to lay claim to these titles.

            1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

              An even older example of the difficulty in assigning territory based on native ethnicity is the difference between gauls and Germans, which was largely a creation of Rome, and used the Rhine as the dividing land, (with some ancient Greek roots as to the divisions) as the cultural (and even linguistical) differences before the Ceaserean conquest of Gaul were extremely minor, but more pronounced as you traveled west (thus Celtic people in Spain were more cultural different than Celts in France when compared to Germans east of the Rhine). Additionally the difference between German and Scandinavians and these two groups and slavs were more hazy, especially in the iron age and earlier, being more a gradient than a distinct difference in culture. In fact, most Germanic people that gained fame during the migration period, the Vandals, Goths etc, actually trace their roots, at least traditionally, to what is Scandinavia, with the Anglos, Jutes and Gotlanders that made up at least a third of the Anglo Saxon conquest of Britain, originating in Scandinavia, with the Saxons coming from what is today the border region between Germany and Denmark, and extending into Poland.

              1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                BTW, this sort of conversation here is what I dream of when I dare to dream about everyone muting the Five Stooges and ignoring them rather than constantly slapfighting with them.

      4. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

        Oh good, so now we're at "borders don't really mean all that much".

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          You're way out of your depth here.

          1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

            Yeah, I'm more saying that borders aren't a stable creation unless the two sides are fairly amicable and that much of what we consider as a people's homeland today, really isn't historically rooted. And that quite often, as in 1919, and 1945, most of what is Eastern Europe was decided by the western powers and Russia/Soviet Union, with little to no input from the people in those areas, and little regards for historical, traditional, ethnical, linguistical and conformational consideration (and yes, conformational considerations play a huge part in this region, Eastern Orthodox vs Roman Catholicism vs Protestantism really impact how people view themselves, as ethnicity is much less clear cut). This exists even in Western Europe, but less so. Probably the best examples are the Basque and Catalonia independence movement, but there are still some Gascon and Brittan independence movements and even some Alsatian movements to return to being part of Germany or becoming an independent Duchy similar to Luxemburg and Lichtenstein (and I'm sure there's probably parts of the old Spanish Netherlands that would like to reunite with the Netherlands or go the independent Duchy route). Hell even in the UK, it's quite possible that Northern Ireland may vote to leave the Kingdom this fall and reunite with Ireland, and the Scottish independence movement is divided between remaining in the kingdom or going completely independent and there is some who want a Welsh and Cornish independence as well. Fuck for that sake, I wouldn't be surprised if there aren't small East Anglia, Umberland, Mercia, Wessex, Kentish independence movements. And the American Civil war's history is more complicated (yes it was at it's essence a war over slavery and the federal government vs the states' right to regulate slavery) but several leaders on both sides chose their sides less because of their views on slavery (a number of pro slavery Union leaders and antislavery or ambivalent leaders on the Southern side) by their views as to allegiance to state vs federal government. Borders matter, even during the period when borders were more fluid and less defined, it just was that for most their history borders tended to be more complicated and our modern definitions of national and cultural identities and locations has little resemblance to historical context.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              Yep. On this one, Jeffy's run into some historians (me included) who know their shit, and know where to look stuff up from memory. I do wish he'd continue so we can take him to school and to the cleaners. He's so far out of his depth on this one.

              If my university offered minors, I would've been able to qualify for a minor in history in addition to my major in geological engineering. I took history classes across the board, did rather well in both AP US history and AP European history in high school, am extensively read in history with parents who are as well (with one who did a double history/math major).

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                I'm not disputing anything that you all are saying about the history of Russia and Ukraine. Do you think you are the only one who reads history?

                We both understand why you are bringing this up. Hey, maybe that Putin fellow has a point after all...

                1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                  That's literally not why I'm saying this. I just believe there's a lot of Americans who think borders, globally, are something much more permanent and clear than they are in reality. It's important to understand why there are disputes happening, even if you think the people behind them are wrong.

                  Putin is of the mindset that Ukraine, or at least the vast majority, is Russian territory because it's been under Russian control for over 200 years. They definitely held Crimea and the Donbas longer than the United States has had the Louisiana territories. Putin is unable to deal with political realities shifting and the fact that historically Russian areas do not want to be under Russian control. And who can blame them? Ukrainians got a really shitty deal under the USSR.

                  But it's worth pointing out that Ukrainian sovereignty isn't some recent thing. They likely would have been much better off if they'd made concessions and forfeited territory before or early in the conflict instead of trying to hold onto to their current territory. Militarily, they can't stand up to Russia, NATO isn't going to join the conflict, so millions of people are dying for a hopeless cause over land that they may not even have the strongest historical claim to.

                  This is also worth discussing because Putin's justification for his invasion of Ukraine sheds a bit of light on his worldview. He's interested in expanding Russian influence back to areas that have been under Russian sovereignty. He's almost certainly not going to attack Poland, as he doesn't want to declare war on NATO...but if he thought he could get away with it, he might, because Poland was long under Russian occupation.

                  1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

                    This whole thread (ITL, sm76, and others) was very informative. I am glad I read through it. And I am especially glad there is at least one journalist in America with the balls to interview the President of Russia, Vladmir Putin.

                    Where are: ABC, NBC, CBS, CNN, MSNBC, FOX - do they not have reporters to interview Putin?

                  2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                    You left an important bit out of your analysis here. While most of Ukraine doesn't want to be under Russian control, the parts of Ukraine that Ukraine probably should have just surrendered actually, in the main, do want to be part of Russia, for all of the various reasons of history and conformation previously discussed.

                    It'd be like if some of the tribes that ended up split by the southern border being just a straight line decided that for whatever reason, they'd like to just take their traditional lands and go join Mexico. It's probably not worth the effort of stopping them.

                    I imagine the Feds would not see it that way, of course.

                    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                      While most of Ukraine doesn’t want to be under Russian control, the parts of Ukraine that Ukraine probably should have just surrendered actually, in the main, do want to be part of Russia, for all of the various reasons of history and conformation previously discussed.

                      I mean, I'm not confident of that, and I question the definition when it comes to sovereignty. There's a lot of Russian meddling that happened when it came down to the administration of elections in the Crimea and then the Donbas. Or at least, that's strongly believed, but I can't independently conclude one way or another.

                      If there was a referendum and El Paso and many parts of southern Texas voted to join Mexico, and we had concerns that it was driven by massive amounts of illegal voting, would we just conclude that those parts of Texas are rightly Mexican territory? Because Mexico does have a historical claim on pretty much all of Texas in the same way Russia has a claim on Ukraine. So how do you resolve the sovereignty question when there's procedural concerns about how people are expressing their will?

                      And the obvious answer is... well, might makes right. Mexico can't take it from the US because they don't have the military power to enforce their will. When you look at Russia/Ukraine, however, the question is different.

                    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                      A reasonable point. I am not as certain as I made out to be that there are that many people there who would prefer to be part of Russia, though I do know that there are people there who speak Russian primarily.

                      As for the question about El Paso... if we have the military power to keep them from taking southern Texas, we sure as hell aren't exercising it right now.

            2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

              Eastern Europe, the Middle East, and large portions of African nations have the borders they do for essentially completely arbitrary reasons. Or worse, in some cases, where the borders were set explicitly *to* foment discord. I recently read a book about the Partition of India. What a shit show.

          2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

            You’re way out of your depth here.

            Yeah, get back in the kiddie pool. No, wait, I didn't mean that literally.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago (edited)

              Be careful Vernon, we don’t want to get more kids molested by Jeffy. Or possibly crushed beneath him……..

              1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                I have a mental image of a beached whale...

                1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                  So... whale dynamite video remake?

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          No, but thanks for swinging in, pushing your narrative and managing to look like a complete fucking retard.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Yes we know. Borders are totally important, except the Russia-Ukraine border, where we have to stroke our chins and consider thousands of years of history and put it all in context to decide whether Russia invading Ukraine was justified or not.

            On a completely unrelated note:

            https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reconquista_(Mexico)

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

              And do tell, what do you know of the history of Ukraine and Russia? Or of the Southwest and Northern Mexico for that matter, o' shallow one?

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                I do find it interesting that you are willing to discuss in depth the history of Russia and Ukraine, with the not-so-subtle implication that hey, maybe Putin really does have a valid historical claim for his aggression against Ukraine, but are unwilling to consider the history of our own southwest border. THAT border is inviolable and whatever happened in the past is ancient history and time to build the wall right now.

                1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                  Are you suggesting that our southern border should be moved? Should Mexico declare war on us?

                  Yes, currently recognized borders should be considered inviolable, unless the nations agree to changes. That is an established principle of the current world order, in place since the end of WWII, that has kept most of Europe and much of the world in unprecedented peace. Would you prefer that we return to recognizing the right of conquest, and the bloodshed that comes with that? If not, then you must recognize the importance of maintaining the sanctity of our own border.

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  Shall we go as back as just the Mexican War, the Spanish conquest of the Pueblos, or even further to the Ancestral Puebloans and Mogollon culture? It's an area that's seen several changes in ownership.

                3. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

                  Gosh, you mean history up to the present day has shown that a nation has to fight invaders to maintain its borders and land? And if they can't do so, it becomes the land of the conquerors?

                  It's not like we don't have, say, England as elegant proof of that all on its own.

            2. DesigNate   1 year ago

              “Putin is unable to deal with political realities shifting and the fact that historically Russian areas do not want to be under Russian control. And who can blame them? Ukrainians got a really shitty deal under the USSR.” - ITL

              Ukraine has every right to control their border. They don’t have the right to demand we (America) pay for said defense.

              1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                Not what I'm advocating either. Just trying to talk political realities of the conflict.

            3. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              "Borders are totally important, except the Russia-Ukraine border"

              Except literally nobody here made that argument except for you in your disingenuous little strawman.

              It's weird how you always try to argue in a manner that assumes nobody can read what your opponents actually wrote.

      5. Fats of Fury   1 year ago

        The US has been meddling in Russia since the USSR fell.

        https://www.washingtonpost.com/history/2020/06/26/russian-election-interference-meddling/

        The US may have also funded the gangster oligarchs that stole everything not nailed down. There were rumors at the time of 200 million dollars filtered stealthily into the country.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Fuck, you we've been meddling in Russia since 1917. American soldiers died as late as 1919 fighting the Bolsheviks, on Russian Territory.

      6. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

        That was actually rather well translated, IMO. I might have to keep that analogy around.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Stunning percentages of American voters are unenthused by the options before them, and for good reason.

    How long ago was South Park's Giant Douche and Turd Sandwich? This isn't exactly new.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      Kang and Kodos was before that.

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago

        Simpsons did it!

    2. Randy Sax   1 year ago

      Back in 04. Season 8 is still my favorite. "Stupid Spoiled Whore Video Playset", "Woodland Critter Christmas", "Douche and Turd", "Goobacks", "Good Times With Weapons". Arguably all classics.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        they took errrr jerbs!

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        “Woodland Critter Christmas”

        And all from the mind of one Eric Cartman.

      3. Zeb   1 year ago

        Oh how I long for those simpler times.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          When we thought things could not get any more stupid?

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          I have in all seriousness spoken of pining for the halcyon days of the Clinton Administration. I didn't expect to have similar feelings regarding the Second Bush Administration. But here we are.

      4. DesigNate   1 year ago

        Goobacks plays in my head every time we debate immigration.

  18. Sevo   1 year ago

    "...Yesterday, Special Counsel Robert K. Hur released a report saying that, though his "investigation uncovered evidence that President [Joe] Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen," he will not be prosecuted, as "it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."..."

    Remember HRC's blatant bypassing of the FOIA with her private comm arrangement? Remember how she wasn't prosecuted: "...Comey described Clinton's email practices as "extremely careless" and noted that there was "evidence of potential violations of the statutes regarding the handling of classified information." Still, Comey said that "no reasonable prosecutor would bring such a case"..."
    Seems there's two different list of statutes, one for Ds and one for everyone else.

    1. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      I remember a Navy sailor going to jail for something like this right after

  19. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Those commie-hating overgrown art students are full of libertarian tendencies...

    I would have thought there's too much distance between now and when their city was half commie dystopia for them to remember.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Have they learned to reconcile libertarian tendencies with in-bred default demand for government freebies?

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      when their city was half commie dystopia

      I would say 3/4s once you add in East Germany.

    3. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago (edited)

      I enjoyed my time in Berlin. I wouldn’t really call the general atmosphere “commie-hating.” There’s definitely still a memorial for Rosa Luxemberg.

      But yes, public drinking is definitely a thing, there. And the legal drinking age is 16. One of my strongest memories from being there was taking a train to head down to Potsdam on the day of a world up match, and a group of kids, none of whom could be older than 17, hopping on with a couple of kegs and sloshing beer around everywhere in plastic cups. So much beer spilled all across the floor of the train.

      1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

        The purchase age is 16. There isn't a per se law as to when you can consume in private, and can consume beer and wine legally in public at 14. France has a similar law. Actually a number of US states don't have a drinking age either, or a very low one, and allow for consumption of a small amount of alcohol, even outside religious ceremonies, but ban public drinking or purchase until 21. In Montana a minor, under the supervision of a responsible adult, generally a custodial adult, can consume up to half a beer or glass of wine at home. Most European countries actually kind of endorse children learning to drink responsibly before they reach the age of purchase, and they tend to have far fewer incidents of binge drinking. It's a cultural thing.

        1. soldiermedic76   1 year ago

          Consumption of alcohol as a minor is not regulated unless said drinking proves detrimental or abusive to the minor in Germany.

        2. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Wisconsin. Someone under 21 can actually be served in a bar or restaurant if with his/her family and the parent/guardian over 21 orders for him/her.

  20. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) opposes minimum parking limits.

    She probably has personal investments on the line but whatever it takes.

    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      Minnesota? I thought she represented Somalia?

  21. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    If you don't know what this references, you have made good life choices...

    Apparently I haven't, but to be fair I also have invested the bare minimum effort in knowing it.

  22. Fist of Etiquette   1 year ago

    Have you ever been to an Eastern European bar? You lucky it only lasted 30 minutes and only covered 800 years!

    Europe is as tribal as any place on Earth.

    1. mad.casual   1 year ago

      Throw in a couple Putin-esque feats of strength and the fact that it's widely considered between a miracle and anathema that Carlson pulled this off and it sounds like *damn* fine Festivus!

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      The only place more tribal is the eastern Mediterranean. In my simple-minded sociology, the longer humans live and fight in a place, the more tribal (and dysfunctional) it is.

      I do admit that I don't know much about east Africa, so that could be worse.

  23. Mickey Rat   1 year ago

    University students miss out on the important discipline subjects:

    https://www.theblaze.com/news/university-indiana-bondage-class-aprents?utm_source=ground.news&utm_medium=referral

    "Indiana University – Purdue University Indianapolis had reportedly planned to offer an "Introduction to Bondage" free workshop for all students on Feb. 13. However, the university quietly walked back the controversial class after pushback from parents, according to reports."

    "The college instructor is allegedly a master in the "basic negotiation, the anatomy of the arm, as well as the anatomy of the hip, groin, and upper leg."

    The "lesson" was allegedly part of the university's "Relationship Week."

    However, the course was nixed by the public university on Wednesday after backlash from parents.

    Jacob Stewart, an IUPUI student, said, "My university has faced controversy during my time here for not doing enough to protect students from sexual assault This [event] is not making campus safer, nor is it making the sex lives of students any safer – all it’s doing is showing how far IUPUI has gotten from its actual educational mission.""

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      This is probably why Putin is acting so baffled by all the drama from the west. He probably thought he was dealing with old-line political corruption, where guys were just skimming off the top for their own benefit.

      He didn't realize he's actually dealing with a bunch of religious fanatics whose driving philosophy is a Frankenstein's monster of anti-white ethnonationalism and hyper-active sexology, and their highest priorities are really evangelizing for mass Third World migration, homobuttsex, and child genital mutilation. The money is just a means to an end.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

        "Third World migration, homobuttsex, and child genital mutilation. "

        Talk about a bat signal for Jeff and Tony

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Where is Tony? Did his rectum finally fatally rupture?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

            Haven't seen Tony around here in months, come to think about it.

            1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

              I’m going with ruptured rectum until there is evidence to the contrary.

      2. mad.casual   1 year ago

        Slight disagreement:

        hyper-active sexology, and their highest priorities are really evangelizing

        As someone who may or may not have conducted free, unsanctioned introduction to bondage workshops on and around the campuses of IUPUI decades ago, this is hilariously "50 Shades of Gray caused women to fall to their fainting couches" quaint and the parents are absolutely right to call out this bullshit.

        Seems to be a theme today.

        1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago

          “50 Shades of Gray caused women to fall to their fainting couches”

          ...

          "and then proceed to vigourously rub one out"

      3. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

        Yep..it is what happens when the cultural marxists with Wall Street money takes over NGOs, most federal agencies, big tech and the media. All funded by the Fed's money printing.

    2. The Margrave of Azilia   1 year ago (edited)

      Introduction to Debt Peonage is still in the curriculum.

  24. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

    "investigation uncovered evidence that President [Joe] Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen," he will not be prosecuted, as "it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

    According to sarc, joe "cooperated" so none of this matters.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      He continued to do so yesterday despite the report showing examples of this being a Democrat lie.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        Sarc just sticking with the leftist narrative? Why I never…

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        So according to Sarc, we should drop charges against serial killers if they ‘cooperate’ and lead investigators to the locations of all their victim’s corpses.

        That’s sounds consistent with Sarc’s level of thinking.

    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

      I was repeating what Trump's own lawyers said. Take it up with them.

      As far as it mattering, heck yeah this matters. If they refuse to prosecute because of mental incompetence, why the hell is he president? Is Kamala better?

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        So Joe being mentally incompetent are just facts changing, right?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          And by facts changing you mean becoming more impossible to deny, right?

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            Yep, we will see sarc and probably jeff as well playing the "facts changed" game. Even though Joe's documents were from his time as VP, and senator, when he had no presidential excuse to have them. These facts have been known all along, and sarc has been presented with them.

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              Why do hate people who change their minds when the available information changes, and instead only respect people who cannot be swayed no matter what information they're given? Oh, well shit. I think I answered my own question just by asking it.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                Because the available information did not change. Joe's documents were from his time as senator and VP, so he had no authority to take them. This isn't cooperation. All of which was pointed out to you ad nauseam.

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago (edited)

                  Did he reject the advice of his lawyers and make a conscious decision to keep the documents, even after being warned that he was going to be prosecuted if he didn’t return them?

                  If not then I don’t see how it compares at all to Trump.

                  Trump said “Fuck you, I do what I want” or something similar. Biden said “What? Where are we? What time is it?”

                  That's not defending Biden. Just saying it is not comparable.

                  1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    "Did he reject the advice of his lawyers and make a conscious decision to keep the documents, even after being warned that he was going to be prosecuted if he didn’t return them?"

                    This isn't actually what happened, even the prosecution isn't spinning that story, but I can see how a guy who gets everything he knows from CNN would think it's the case.

                  2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    The evidence all along has been that what joe did was worse than what trump did. Trump was "asked to return" the docs he had. And no one seemed to care (until now) that joe/obama (probably bush too) also had documents. They weren't being asked to return them. Why?

                    As I've said repeatedly, I don't even like trump, but the special treatment for joe and others makes trump sympathetic.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                      The evidence all along has been that what joe did was worse than what trump did.

                      if you uncritically accept what right-wing media tells you, yes

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      This was reported by sources other than right wing media jeff.

                    3. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      And more dismissal of inconvenient facts and evidence as right wing. Which fallacy is that Jeff?

                  3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    Trump was “asked to return” the docs he had.

                    After how long and how many requests? That's why he's in the hot seat.

                    They weren’t being asked to return them. Why?

                    How would I know? Question is what they did when asked to return the stuff.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      "How would I know?"

                      You're not at all inquisitive about this?

                    2. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You’re not at all inquisitive about this?

                      No, I'm not.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Show me the part where Biden held onto the stuff despite warnings from his lawyers and I'll get on board with comparing what he did to what Trump did.

                    4. R Mac   1 year ago

                      It’s illegal for Senators and VPs to take classified docs in the first place sarc.

                      You’ve been told this. You don’t care. Because you’re good with a two tiered justice system that protects your tribe.

                    5. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      Sarcasmic, are you deliberately ignoring the right of a President to hold and declassify documents, and that a Vice President doesn't have that right in the first place?

                      Whether you agree with it or not, Clinton, Obama, Trump and Bush had a legal right to take those documents and do whatever they wanted with them. Joe didn't.

                    6. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      So me Sarc hasn’t responded, you have your answer. He’s a dishonest piece of shit whole sole reasons for being are his hatred of Trump, and defense of all things democrat.

                2. JesseAz   1 year ago

                  And he knew he had the documents and used them to profit off a memoir telling his ghostwriter classified information.

                  Sarc can't get around this.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    I expect he won't even try to, now that the evidence against joe is becoming irrefutable. And more importantly, now that it looks like joe will lose the election, so the dems may want to use this report against joe. Now it's safe for jeffsarcplug to say joe = bad.

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Evidence of what? That he had documents?

                      That's not why Trump is in trouble. He's in trouble for pushing back against requests to return the stuff. Unless Biden did that as well then there's no comparison.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago (edited)

                      That joe's handling of classified documents was worse than trump's. And up to last night, joe was getting a pass for it.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      I'm seeing the part where Biden illegally retained documents. So did Trump. I'm not seeing the part where Biden ignored requests from his lawyers to return the documents. That's why I've said all along that Trump stepped on his own dick with that one.

                    4. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      Are you seeing the part where Trump was President when he took them and Joe was not?

                    5. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      As far as I can tell, sarc has never once adknowledged this. He always reverts to the "but did he return them?" dodge.

                    6. damikesc   1 year ago

                      Except Biden SHOULD HAVE NEVER HAD THEM.

                      If you have any type of security clearance, you have to sign documents stating that you know you cannot have possession of those documents.

                    7. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Ignoring advice of lawyers is not part of the law you dumb democrat retard. That is you making excuses.

                    8. Super Scary   1 year ago

                      "And more importantly, now that it looks like joe will lose the election"

                      I dunno boss, I think the elections will remain fortified.

                    9. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

                      "Fortified for the Democrat" doesn't mean Tapioca Joe will be the candidate.

              2. R Mac   1 year ago

                Poor sarc, totally fell into that one, and too stupid to realize it.

                Or are you really just now learning that Biden is mentally incompetent?

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                  He has to claim the facts changed when he starts shifting to a new narrative. It's interesting to watch him playing that out in real time today.

                  1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                    I have noticed that you guys intentionally conflate information with facts. So when someone changes their mind based upon new information, you attack them by saying the facts changed. You guys really hate people who make up their own minds, don't you.

                    1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                      "I have noticed that you guys intentionally conflate information with facts."

                      Ummm...

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      "people who make up their own minds"

                      You let others make up your mind for you.

                    3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                      No, you make up your own facts. You’re a lying drunken piece of shit.

                      Just take the ‘L’ and walk away. You’re embarrassing yourself more than usual.

                    4. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                      Sarc: "I reject your reality, and substitute my own!"

                    5. JesseAz   1 year ago

                      Up above sarc admits he won't read about facts given to him because they are "right wing" so he can claim facts didn't exist when they become overwhelming.

      2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

        "Is Kamala better?"

        What has this got to do with anything?

        1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

          25A

          1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

            You're saying she also should be 25A'd? So we will get down to Mike Johnson (current house speaker)?

            1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

              I'm saying that if he shouldn't be prosecuted because he's an old man who can't be expected to remember things, then how the heck can you say he's capable of making executive decisions?

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                “Is Kamala better?”

                And what does this have to do with that?

                1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                  She's next in line. What else could it mean?

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                    Meaning you don't actually want joe to be 25A'd because Kamala is worse? Above you are saying joe has to go.

                    Or maybe you're trying to decide which narrative to go with, seeing which way the wind ends up blowing?

                    1. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      Meaning it might be worth considering. Looks like you've already considered it and decided what I decided.

                    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      Dude, joe has been senile for years. You're acting like something has changed all of a sudden.

                    3. sarcasmic   1 year ago

                      You don't think a decision by a prosecutor like that isn't a change?

                      Maybe it isn't. But I kind of hope it is.

                  2. R Mac   1 year ago

                    Whoever is next in line shouldn’t factor in to 25 A.

                    Unless you’re looking at it from the perspective of how it effects democrats politically.

                    Oh, I see now.

                    1. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

                      ding, ding, ding

        2. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

          The other question is if she is worse - why did you put her on the ticket Sarc? Alway what is your case for her being removed? You can't just say "she is horrible". You have to have those things called facts to build a case.

          1. Jefferson Paul   1 year ago

            Oddly enough, her name in the Finnish language translates directly to "horrible." It's even pronounced the same way she (usually) pronounces her name: Caw-ma-la. And it's spelled "kamala" in Finnish too. You can't make this shit up.

            To anyone in Finland who hears her name, they would hear "horrible Harris."

        3. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

          Better at? Given the degenerates running most of the Biden admin, I suppose her ahhhh "talents" would be more understood

  25. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

    One thing that may get missed in the report that exonerates President Biden for his handling of secret documents, Merrick Garland is an honest man. The report is damaging to President Biden and yet the Attorney General allowed it to be released. He did not run interference like Bill Barr did with the Mueller report. Those who suggest that the DOJ has indicted Trump for political reasons need to step back and see that the AG doesn't do that. Trump is indicted because there is evidence of his wrongdoing, period.

    1. Ajsloss   1 year ago

      Merrick Garland is an honest man.

      Hahaha. The report was released so the Dems could get their dementia patient out of office, not because of any "principles".

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "Merrick Garland is an honest man"

      There are so many examples of Merrick Garland not being an honest man I actually don't know which one to post first.

      1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

        Try one to start.

        1. Reshufflex   1 year ago

          Did you read the report? Saying it “ exonerates” Biden is laughable. It repeatedly and expressly notes his willful violations of laws.

          His criminality in the unlawful removal and retention of all four levels of classified docs is not just overwhelming, but it spans decades, going back to his senate days. Add to that his admitted disclosure to his ghostwriter of top secret data, and he’s implicated under the espionage act.

          Biden wasn’t prosecuted because 1) he’s a vegetable, 2) politics, and 3) Hurr did backflips selling the idea in over 300 pages that a porous “ beyond a reasonable doubt” standard, coupled with Biden’s salient diminished capacity, would all leave a jury scratching their heads and tearing up.

          As to Garland signing off on the report verbatim, his doing so is just another of his illimitable Machiavellian stunts. Don’t be so naive.

          1. JesseAz   1 year ago

            Nitpick. There are only 3 levels of classification. Confidential, secret, top secret. SCI is one of those with extra need to know protections as it is compartmentalized.

            1. Reshufflex   1 year ago

              No worries. Keep up the good work.

        2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Sure.

          Garland testified to Congress that he didn’t order the targeting of parents who criticize schools policies, let alone treat them as domestic terrorists. But these memos and statements from before his testimony show he was lying.

          1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

            Would you like another?

            In regards to the Biden Pay to Play scandal, Merrick Garland had repeatedly assured Congress that US attorney David Weiss had total authority over his investigation, using this as the reason why he refused to appoint a special counsel. Garland then denounced the allegations as “an attack on an institution that is essential to American democracy, and essential to the safety of the American people.”
            But David Weiss told IRS and FBI investigators in a meeting on October 22, 2022 that “I’m not the deciding official”, and that Garland was.

          2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

            Your first link is to an FBI memo that doesn't mention parents or 'domestic terrorism' even once. Your second link is to a report from NSBA that has nothing to do with Garland.

            Try again.

            1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

              It was sent to the FBI and requested action from the Counterterrorism division...because they were treating this as a domestic terrorism issue. And if you can't read between the lines and realize that investigations of alleged threats made against school boards, school administrators, and teachers is going to result in targeting a lot of angry parents, you're simply lying to yourself.

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago (edited)
                1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

                  Best, smartest, and most intelligent thing you've said all day.

              2. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                This is what ML wrote:

                the targeting of parents who criticize schools policies

                Give me even one shred of evidence from those documents, or anywhere, that demonstrates that the FBI targeted parents for *nothing more* than criticizing schools' policies, who were not violent and did not break any law.

                1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                  https://republicans-judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-05-11-JDJ-MJ-to-Garland-re-threat-tags_Redacted.pdf

                  1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

                    There's that too.

                  2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                    There you go, creamjeff. Would you like another?

            2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Right up in the subject line of the email.
              You have to do a little more work than Ctrl + f, you dishonest shit: "Guidance: Threat of violence against school administrators"

              As for the second one:
              "In the September 14, 2021 meeting of the OSAED liaison group, they were informed there had been a
              meeting with White House staff that morning and that NSBA was preparing to send a letter to the
              President, Subsequently, on September 17, 2021, the interim Executive Director emailed notice to the
              state association executive directors that indicated a letter requesting federal assistance would be sent.
              “NSBA is taking a number of actions regarding calling for protection and resources to assist
              school board members with these threats including a call for the President and federal
              government for more assistance.”
              That notice later stated:
              “Further, NSBA has drafted its own individual letter that has been in the planning for several
              days that will also go out next week. This is a very detailed letter calling attention to the problem
              and laying out some very specific requests for action. That letter will be shared out with all of you
              next week when it is sent out so you can share it with your members and also your Congressional
              Delegations. “

              And I didn't post it but then there's this:
              https://www.justice.gov/ag/page/file/1438986/download

              1. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

                Same challenge to you.

                Give me even one shred of evidence from those documents, or anywhere, that demonstrates that the FBI targeted parents for *nothing more* than criticizing schools’ policies, who were not violent and did not break any law.

                1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

                  Vernon already posted this, but here:

                  https://republicans-judiciary.house.gov/wp-content/uploads/2022/05/2022-05-11-JDJ-MJ-to-Garland-re-threat-tags_Redacted.pdf

                  The thing is I know you were already aware of this, and you're just demanding all the citations all over again as some sort of weird tactic to exhaust us with demands, in hopes we'll give up or something.

                  1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

                    It's called "sea lioning". Closely related to "the Gish Gallop".

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   1 year ago (edited)

      The ag stated he held off on the trump trial so that the court dates would interfere with election year campaigns. You are not a moderate, you are a banana republic supporting Marxist cancer.

      1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

        Can you cite when he said this?

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          Not the good Rev's cite, but don't you think the coincidences are remarkable?

          https://www.reuters.com/legal/government/key-dates-trumps-overlapping-legal-political-calendars-2023-09-18/

          1. Moderation4ever   1 year ago

            First you did not provide the citation requested. Regarding the citation you did provide that could support my point as much as the Rev's. Marrick Garland has shown a great reluctance to indict Donald Trump because he could have assigned a prosecutor in 2021 and had Trump convicted and on prison already. I think his hand was forced by the Mar a Lago documents cause which is just so obvious. The result of the delay has put the trials right in the election season. At this point the only person who could speed things up and clear the calendar is Donald Trump who could ask for a speedy trial, not likely to happen.

            1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

              Because you didn't request it from me, dipshit. And I clearly said "Not the good Rev’s cite".

              Fucking moron.

              What I did was post Reuters comparison of how Donald Trump’s trial dates overlap with his 2024 election campaign, and asked you "don’t you think the 'coincidences' are remarkable?"

    4. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago (edited)

      Those who suggest that the DOJ has indicted Trump for political reasons need to step back and see that the AG doesn’t do that.

      Jaysus Fooking Christ! I see the latest revision of The Narrative was released last night.

    5. JesseAz   1 year ago

      If people don't believe this is Parody...

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        I been saying…

    6. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

      How did the report exonerate Biden?

      “investigation uncovered evidence that President [Joe] Biden willfully retained and disclosed classified materials after his vice presidency when he was a private citizen,”

    7. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

      Are you retarded or autistic?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Could be retarded parody.

    8. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      We understand, M4e. It is (D)ifferent.

    9. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

      “Well President Biden has a good backup in Kamala Harris.”

      "Merrick Garland is an honest man."

      Two recent pearls of wisdom from M4E.

    10. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      Garland appointed this special counsel to do one thing. Do an investigation and find a way to not indict. As the report reveals Biden knowingly took classified documents without any legal authority, retained those documents for decades in multiple unsecured locations, and shared those documents with other private citizens. Clearly people are regularly indicted and imprisoned for far less. In order to avoid charging him, the DOJ needed a reason that they could sell and came up with the well meaning senile old man defense. Having already charged Trump and letting statutes of limitations expire on Hunter among hundreds of other obviously corrupt actions the DOJ politically was out of options.

    11. One-Punch_Man   1 year ago

      Hahahah Garland honest. Sure.

    12. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

      Dude...the attack on Catholics and parents who think that degeneracy has no place in public education disqualifies this bolshie. I'd personally like to see more Catholics in high positions in the DOC and State.

  26. Longtobefree   1 year ago

    Funny how reports of crimes by democrat politicians all present a perfect prosecution case, but end with "no prosecution" instead of "the prosecution rests".

    1. BYODB   1 year ago

      And the consistent defense of them is that they are incompetent thus they can't be prosecuted for willful behavior.

      Truly amazing.

      1. markm23   1 year ago

        In this case, isn't it saying that Biden was incompetent by the end of his time as _Vice_ President? That's when the documents were illegally retained and insecurely stored - and that means that everyone who talked to Biden and then endorsed him for President was palming off a mental incompetent on the American people. If our constitution's definition of treason wasn't so narrow, we could have the entire Democrat establishment executed...

        Or is there a statute of limitations so the only charge allowed is continuing to keep the documents the last X years? If so, what is X? Because if he was mentally incompetent 4 or more years ago, that still means every Democrat who met him and endorsed his run for President conspired to give us a mentally incompetent President.

  27. Cyto   1 year ago

    In today’s propaganda news, NBC is back on the reservation with the administration.

    Last night at the press conference , they were sounding the alarm with the rest of the press

    This morning, they ran a story with a stand up reporter outside the White House.

    She said that the special council report focused primarily on the president’s memory and exonerated him from any wrongdoing.

    Then cut to their political analyst , who said that the document seem to be more of a political document than a legal document. They then focus on the White House defense, that the president’s memory is fine. they play a clip of him talking about his son dying and how it is none of their business. then they cut out the awkward bit in between and play the part where he says he wears a rosary every day, but they cut off the end of that sentence where he cannot remember where he got it from.

    Straight propaganda

    Then immediately launched into a defense of biden , saying that he immediately turned over the documents even though in the indictment , he is on audiotape in 2017 , talking about having the classified documents in his basement.

    They then spend an equal amount of time time if not more time talking about Trump being under indictment for hiding documents and destroying evidence.

    I really don’t think the pravda years were anywhere close to this.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

      Difference: Pravda had to do it. NBC chooses to.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        NBC enthusiastically commits treason daily.

    2. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

      It looks like our resident leftists watched it last night, because the talking points are identical. See M4E above.

      1. R Mac   1 year ago

        He’s a parody.

        1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

          How can you tell?

          Creamjeff was furious the other day that somebody was parodying him, but when I asked him if he disagreed with what the spoofer said, he refused to answer.

    3. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      This is very serious. The SC came out and said POTUS Biden willfully used classified intelligence he took as a Senator and VP and used it for himself. Does anyone thing that he only used that classified info with a ghostwriter?

      C'mon Man, who are you shitting?

      How is what POTUS Biden did not illegal? It is (D)ifferent, that's why.

      1. Ron   1 year ago

        there was a general a few years ago who shared classified documents with a writer and he was prosecuted. Biden supposidly wasn't in mental decline when he shared classified documents so he can be tried. heck they tried and imprisoned a 90 year old lady with cancer for walking around the capitol on Jan 6

      2. JesseAz   1 year ago

        One of the listed documents is regarding Ukraine, who his son was getting paid by at the time.

      3. Zeb   1 year ago

        It's quite possible that in another year he won't be competent to stand trial. But that doesn't seem like a good enough reason to rule out possible charges now.

        1. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

          Biden is (D)ifferent.

  28. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    Correct take:

    Nuclear power doesn't work under Communism, meaning we probably shouldn't do it in the US.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Much better twitter links than Masnick and Yglesias.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

      No one was even hurt at Three Mile Island. Don't let a stupid Jane Fonda movie scare you.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        We weren't communist during Three Mile Island.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

          But Jane was.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      We shouldn't do communism is the right take. Nuclear power works just fine. We have four such stations in my area, and they're clean, reliable, and work just fine.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        *checks America*

        We shouldn’t do communism is the right take.

        Too late.

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          The difference now is that a lot of what went wrong at Chernobyl was helped along by people's unwillingness to say bad things about the state and the hierarchy. In the US today, bashing your own country and "the patriarchy" is almost mandatory.

  29. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    I really don’t think the pravda years were anywhere close to this.

    Nah, it's pretty much the same--today's reporters share the same political ideology as the Soviet Union, after all.

    I actually saw a hilarious remark by a lefty on YouTube, regarding Tusk's stupid comment invoking Reagan, talking about how he almost wished McCarthy would come back and clean up the GOP. This idiot was too historically ignorant to know that McCarthy hated communists in general, and the fact the Soviets were the leaders in pushing it at the time was completely incidental.

    The only thing that would happen if McCarthy was brought back is that he'd immediately say, "I told you so."

    1. BYODB   1 year ago


      The only thing that would happen if McCarthy was brought back is that he’d immediately say, “I told you so.”

      Yeah, no kidding. It amused me even as a kid learning about him that for all the vitriol poured on him in my history textbook watching the news proved he was actually right.

      Doesn't excuse his tactics, I suppose, but he was was right.

      1. Mike Parsons   1 year ago (edited)

        Ya, I remember coming out of high school and into college thinking McCarthy was the most evil big bad (if my history teachers could be believed), and later realizing the dude pretty much had it right on.

        When faced with people sympathetic to a cause (and foreign govt) antithetical to a free society and specifically your own countries goals, ideals, and constitution, what is the proper response? Maybe McCarthy was too harsh, but years of drifting in the opposite direction show maybe he was spot on

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        McCarthy's big mistake was being a spray-and-pray demagogue who should have been far more precise in his pursuit. A lot of the names on that famous list he displayed had long been known and ferreted out already; it was an obsolete document. He finally fucked up by going after the Army when its public reputation was at an all-time high, and basing his accusations on hearsay rather than direct evidence.

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          He didn’t really go after the army so much as he failed to keep a leash on Roy Cohn, who got into a pissing match with Army Secretary Stevens after Cohn tried to strong arm him into giving special treatment to his boy crush, David Schine. Who had just been notified he was being drafted into the army.

        2. damikesc   1 year ago

          I'll defend McCarthy happily here.

          He tried --- hard --- to have the hearings done in closed session because he stated some people accused might well be innocent.

          The Democrats refused the request.

          1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

            Very true. McCarthy was the hero, not the villain. Democrats were the villains, as usual.

  30. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

    Elmo's personality displays obvious signs of early sexual abuse.

    1. JesseAz   1 year ago

      Wasn't the original voice of elmo charged with child porn?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Accused of being in a sexual relationship with a minor (two of them actually), and dismissed due to the statute of limitations.

  31. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

    Re: Trump v Anderson oral argument at SCOTUS

    All three petitioners did a good job before the court. Jonathan Mitchell was just outstanding. He is really something. Just smooth and polished. He did an amazing job arguing Dobbs, and followed up here with another.

    I don't think this will be close. The SCOTUS basically bench-slapped CO AG Murray for half of his argument. He was very dogged and determined. He was not persuasive. I can easily see a 9-0 or 8-1 ruling stating CO was wrong.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      To be fair, Murray's not the Colorado AG; Jena Griswold is. In fact, she was technically the respondent in the lawsuit, although she clearly was okay with it being put forth. Jason Murray is just the lawyer making the arguments for the ex-GOP NeverTrumpers who filed the lawsuit with the help of Mario Nicolais. He's also a typical "your employer should represent your values and insipire you!" lefty Millennial.

      1. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

        That Murray guy 'left it on the field'. He tried.

        But it is rough when not one, not two, but three Justices express irritation that you are not answering the questions being asked. That was hard to listen to.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago (edited)

          Yeah, it’s a lot different when you’re not arguing in front of a state court packed with partisan Democrats who are in on the conspiracy.

          It’s honestly too bad Nicolais wasn’t the one in front of the court making the arguments, because I’d love to have seen that fat fuck NeverTrumper get dressed down, but maybe they figured Murray would get a more sympathetic hearing since he clerked for Kagan and Gorsuch.

          This made me want to wretch: People began lining up outside the court on Wednesday hoping to snag one of the few seats allotted to the public. “This is a landmark decision and I want to be in the room where it happened, to quote ‘Hamilton,’” said Susan Acker of Cincinnati, Ohio, who was in line with two friends.

          I guess that dumb musical is the “adult years” version of Harry Potter for Zennials, now that Rowling the TERF Queen isn't going along with the TQ+ crowd.

  32. TheReEncogitationer   1 year ago

    OK, I know there's no perfect libertarian paradise, and Germans are repressed, uptight busybodies who wear suede suspenders and eat too many noodles, but Berlin? Those commie-hating overgrown art students are full of libertarian tendencies, even if you don't choose to glimpse it firsthand at their sex clubs.

    "DHERE'S A FIRE IN DE HAUS! PUT IT OUT! PUT IT OUT!"
    🙂
    😉

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      There's more commies in Berlin now than there were when the Soviets entered the city in 1945.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

        *ding ding ding!*

        rrwp wins a cookie.

      2. damikesc   1 year ago

        Sad fact: German Communists were far more likely to survive the Nazis than Stalin.

        1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

          The useful idiots are always the first against the wall. Despots cannot tolerate political activists, regardless of their politics.

        2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

          Stalin was a world class asshole, but credit where credit is due -- he killed a fuck-ton of communists.

    2. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      This is fine...

    3. Roberta   1 year ago

      Funny, but I've never thought of Germans as eating a lot of, let alone too many, noodles. Italians, sure, but Germans? Maybe pretzels count as baked noodles. Well, what the heck, the Wikipedia entry on spaetzle count them as "noodles", though they look too short and chunky to be noodles in my book.

  33. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago

    If you don't know what this references, you have made good life choices:

    I will confess to having no idea why Elmo has been in the news lately.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      What are Elmo's pronouns?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   1 year ago

        Propagandist and Furry?

      2. Dillinger   1 year ago

        isn't his middle name Me?

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

        Tickle/me?

    2. Zeb   1 year ago

      Ya, no idea what that's about. I think I'm pretty satisfied with my ignorance in this case.

  34. Uomo Del Ghiaccio   1 year ago

    If Biden can't be prosecuted because of his senility, then he should be removed. I don't want a senile person in charge of the nuclear football.

    I don't like Kamala Harris and completely distrust her and have a complete lack confidence in her ability to be president. However I don't see any other alternative other than starting the process to remove Biden due to senility.

    1. BYODB   1 year ago

      Yeah, as bad as Harris is in just about every possible way at least one can say she knows what day it is today. I think this may be rock bottom for America; time to sober up!

      The most sobering part of the whole thing is that Biden doesn't remember when his son died. That isn't the kind of thing one forgets without the help of dementia.

      I'd feel sorry for Biden except for the part where he wanted to be President despite the fact he had to know his mind was on it's way out. That puts his own personal hubris way above the good of the nation in a readily observable way.

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        >>I’d feel sorry for Biden except for

        the 50 years of criminal activity?

        1. R Mac   1 year ago

          And voting yea on every military engagement and drug law during that same time period.

          Which is why all the Reason staff that supported him in 2020 did so reluctantly and strategically.

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            ^^

      2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

        I’d feel sorry for Biden except for the part where he wanted to be President despite the fact he had to know his mind was on it’s way out

        I said back around the time that Trump took office that Biden should have flexed on Hillary and run for President in 2016, because while he was doing the goofy old guy act, his mind was clearly still there and he was still lucid. On top of that, the DNC wouldn't have had to do any of the reindeer games they pulled in 2020, because Biden was still pretty popular and seen as a more likeable politician, which was always Hillary's Achilles heel.

        The deterioration he went through from 2016 to 2020 was stark and rather alarming, and it wouldn't have been a big deal for him to step out in favor of his VP in 2020 due to dementia concerns. The nation's basically been in non-stop crisis mode ever since he declared.

        1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

          But, it was HER TURN!

          1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

            I have a progressive friend and he even is critical of Israel. But with Russia he has lost his mind. And it all goes back to Trump beating the witch. He is convinced Putin put Trump in office. He just can't get over it...even with the Russian Hoax and hacked emails showing how the DNC screwed his hero Bernie, he just can't get over her losing. He was a huge apologist for the Soviets in the day.."peacefull co-existance" The US was the problem and all that. Now Putin is going to cross the Oder and take Berlin. TDS is a mental illness.

      3. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        A 25A case can be made against Harris too. She is clearly mentally incompetent. Just not senile.

        Maybe retarded?

        1. Zeb   1 year ago

          Or it's an act (at least in part)? She's no genius, but I don't think she can possibly be as stupid as some of her statements make her sound. Who the fuck knows with these people.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

            I'd say it's definitely an act to distract you from the marxism that's coming out of her mouth.

            1. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

              Marxism? Willie says otherwise.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      If Biden can’t be prosecuted because of his senility, then he should be removed. I don’t want a senile person in charge of the nuclear football.

      I guarantee the Secret Service don't let him anywhere near that thing and continually distract him with ice cream cones.

    3. Longtobefree   1 year ago

      What difference, at this point, does it make?

      Whoever is pulling the strings on Biden will pull the strings on Harris.
      Perfect continuity of government.

    4. Zeb   1 year ago

      I think it's more his presumed senility when he leaves office and can be charged criminally. Though the arguments do seem to also make a decent case that he is at least partly incapacitated now.

  35. Diane Reynolds (Paul. they/them)   1 year ago (edited)

    Tucker Carlson interviewed Russian President Vladimir Putin. It was a softball interview in many ways, with a fair amount of initial self-aggrandizing from Carlson about his own bravery. Credit where due, though, for the part where Carlson questioned Putin about his imprisonment of Wall Street Journal reporter Evan Gershkovich. Much to say (Melissa Chen is especially good), but this is also spot-on:

    I watched the interview and was surprised at how good it was– in the historical context of world-leader interviews– especially one that the US has declared hostile.

    I don’t remember anything about Carlson talking about his own bravery. I missed that if he did.

    Also, the WaPo reporter questions were probably the LEAST of the sticky areas that Carlson pressed him on.

    1. Ron   1 year ago

      and knowing what Putin has done to other reporters Carlson had to walk a fine line that let him leave alive

    2. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

      "I don’t remember anything about Carlson talking about his own bravery."

      Neither do I. Maybe there was a special Reason version.

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        Or the teaser intro released a few days before.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Reason just hates him. It’s really that simple.

    3. Zeb   1 year ago

      Yeah, it was a pretty interesting interview (if you are into dry history and international politics). Of course Putin was presenting things in such a way as to promote Russian interests as he sees them. And some claims I would definitely question. But Putin is a very smart man and he seems to understand the West a lot better than most in the west seem to understand him. I think he made some good points about how the west just couldn't stop taking Russia as an enemy after the USSR fell apart.

      1. Mother's Lament   1 year ago

        For a lot of people in the West they thought that the Russians themselves were the problem rather than communist ideology which they were kind of partial to.

    4. Bill Falcon   1 year ago

      With Liz it is about Trotsky losing to Stalin and the Czar did bad things..Russia now needs to be destroyed...while the Soviets were friends..despite the crackdown in Hungary and Czech right? The neocons orginated when Stalin purged the wrong folks in their opinion.

  36. BYODB   1 year ago

    Gosh, I don't know which side to take between Wil Wheaton and Larry David. They are both insufferable, although at least Larry David is capable of writing in between his psychotic nuttery. Wheaton is just an absolutely useless Kurtzman shill.

    1. A Thinking Mind   1 year ago

      Wheaton is a putz. That is all.

      1. BYODB   1 year ago

        Straight from Larry David's lips to gods ears, one might say.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

      David's an asshole, but Wheaton is clearly the bad guy in this situation. He's been running this line of bullshit for a few years now that his father traumatized him with all kinds of abuse, when the reality is that he was a snotty, entitled brat that didn't like being told to behave himself by his parents, and has used that to justify all kinds of obnoxious behavior for a while (which is one reason he hates Trump so much, he can't stand the competition).

      Keep in mind, this is a man in his early 50s now--he's older than Patrick Stewart was when TNG came out. Can you imagine Stewart acting like such an emotionally retarded spastic at that age?

      The reality is that Wheaton's just a drama queen and he's trying to keep his name relevant with this, because people are bored of his "HURR I'M KING OF THE NUUUURRRRDS!" image he's been cultivating for the last 20 years, due to a largely failed acting career up to that point.

      1. BYODB   1 year ago


        Can you imagine Stewart acting like such an emotionally retarded spastic at that age?

        Well, not at that age but Stewart is certainly making a go of being more obnoxious than Wheaton at this point. I'm not sure that's actually possible, but never underestimate Stewarts narcissism.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          True, to be fair, Twitter didn't exist at that time.

      2. damikesc   1 year ago

        Wasn't Wil banned from Mastodon?

        Comparing what David did to Elmo to rape is, perhaps, a step too far.

        1. mad.casual   1 year ago

          rape

          Wait what? Did I miss something?

          I've heard the repeated allegations made by Will, and between his neuroses and the relatively normal/unable-to-be-in-any-way-substantiated claims (Ugh! Larry David touching Elmo's face in a half-joking fit of aggravation reminds me of my Dad!) it feels a bit like a Sam Brinton-style victim or persecution complex.

          I've never once heard anything about a rape.

      3. mad.casual   1 year ago

        ^ This

        Really Will? Because I'm younger than you are and I can remember being abused by children the way Elmo abused Larry David too. You're a parent, whatever your Dad did was 20+ yrs. ago. Grow the fuck up.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

          Dude would probably have a heart attack if he saw the Wilkins Coffee commercials that Jim Henson did.

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

          Leftists are such weak people. It’s laughable that they think they will prevail on the forthcoming revolution.

  37. MWAocdoc   1 year ago (edited)

    I’ve said it before and I’ll keep saying it until it sinks in: IT’S NOT BIDEN’S AGE! Pre-senile Dementia was a medical condition until it was demonstrated scientifically that, although dementia becomes more prevalent with advancing age, there is no age at which dementia becomes normal. Dementia is an abnormal mental condition at any age. There are lots of 90 year olds who have crystal clear mentation and quite a number of 50 year olds who have started to develop dementia. The condition was renamed Alzheimer’s Disease to clarify that dementia is a DISEASE, not a function of age. Biden is clearly displaying a number of signs and symptoms of dementia. Stop saying he’s “too old to be President!” Please!

    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   1 year ago

      OK. Biden is too dementia-y to be President.

    2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      Biden had an IQ of 95 (at best) back in his prime. He’s been compromised ever since he had his two aneurysm surgeries. The second of which medically lobotomized him. This was back in 1988.

      The ensuing 35+ years have only made things steadily worse.

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   1 year ago

      My father is 93 and still engaged, sharp and funny. He had a stroke about 10 years ago but fully recovered. I wouldn't want him to be president. I wouldn't want me to be president. But not every elderly person is senile. Biden clearly is.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        See my comment above.

    4. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

      And another thing: Tenney has no justification for requesting that Garland invoke the 25th Amendment. Hur is NOT a psychiatrist and his (clearly politically motivated) legal opinion is not acceptable as a psychiatric diagnosis. Piling one political gesture on top of another political gesture just sinks politics in general even deeper in the mud, doing nothing for the welfare of the public.

  38. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>"it would be difficult to convince a jury that they should convict him-by then a former president well into his eighties-of a serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."

    take the fucking bet.

    1. Ersatz   1 year ago (edited)

      just find the right venue – …. kind of like they do with all the Trump persecut… er … prosecutions

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Agreed. This need sot be done to every elite democrat that we can possibly take down.

    2. Super Scary   1 year ago (edited)

      Biden: “He’s too old and nice to prosecute!”
      Trump: “He’s old and too mean, prosecute!”

      1. CE   1 year ago

        Biden: he's a doddering old man who doesn't know what he's doing, you must acquit. And also reelect him to the job with the most responsibility in the world.

      2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Biden and his family are grifters and traitors. I don’t give a shit how bad his dementia has gotten. There should be no mercy for any of them.

  39. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>I went forward with five hours of in-person interviews over two days on October 8th and 9th of last year, even though Israel had just been attacked on October 7th and I was in the middle of handling an international crisis

    giving a deposition while sitting on a fence is likely difficult.

  40. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>biden's exoneration

    no.

  41. Dillinger   1 year ago (edited)

    >> initial self-aggrandizing from Carlson about his own bravery.

    nothing about Pussy Riot?

    1. R Mac   1 year ago

      An opportunity missed, to be sure.

  42. Dillinger   1 year ago

    how could you not choose to glimpse it firsthand at their sexclubs?

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

      Isn't Club Vandersexxx over in Amsterdam?

      1. Dillinger   1 year ago

        no idea haven't been to Europe. I keep the majority of our sexclub activity to CasaDillinger.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

          Ever see the movie Eurotrip?

          1. Dillinger   1 year ago

            no but I will check it out. the Vanderplace too if I'm in Amsterdam

            1. Stuck in California   1 year ago

              Just remember, the safe word is FLÜGGÅӘNKб€ČHIŒßØLĮÊN

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                But does Scotty know?

          2. mad.casual   1 year ago (edited)

            I find the overlap between people who worship or admire the European sex club scene (or identify as worshipping the European sex club scene) and people who hate Trump to be hilarious.

            It's like Ricardo Montalbon criticizing Trump for being too gaudy and over the top.

            1. tracerv   1 year ago

              https://youtu.be/DVVWF2DAeeU?si=LuJ8lydW8wyLgfQ9

              Sctv Ricardo Montalbon bit.

              1. Dillinger   1 year ago

                +1 just me and the Moron Twins.

              2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

                Montalbon was also great as Willie Loman.

  43. Red Rocks White Privilege   1 year ago

    What the fuck, man (Daily Fail):

    Horrified air passengers screamed and were left 'traumatised' yesterday when a German husband started coughing up 'litres of blood' in front of his wife before collapsing and dying mid-flight.
    The 63-year-old traveller, who has not been named, was said to have boarded the Lufthansa flight from Bangkok to Munich visibly ill before his condition rapidly deteriorated.
    'It was absolute horror, everyone was screaming,' fellow passenger Martin Missfelder, 53, from Zurich, Switzerland, told Swiss outlet Blick.

    Vaxxed and boosted?

    1. CE   1 year ago

      Sounds more like some new bioweapon from Fauci and Friends.

      1. Ersatz   1 year ago (edited)

        Viral hemorrhagic fever

  44. Dillinger   1 year ago

    >>Rep. Ilhan Omar (D–Minn.) opposes minimum parking limits.

    in contrast I am a proponent of sibling marital limits.

  45. Bertram Guilfoyle   1 year ago

    Does Joe remind anyone else of Theoden under Wormtongue's influence?

  46. johngray0   1 year ago

    The Green Bay Packers laid off one of their GM's this week. Cause he reached the ago of..... 70.

    1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

      Carousel?

  47. Think It Through   1 year ago

    You're never going to convince me that Biden is not aware and sharp as a tack.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      This is real life, not an SNL skit.

    2. MWAocdoc   1 year ago

      The only way to know for sure is to disconnect his life support and see. Weekend at Bernie's comes to mind ...

  48. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

    Those commie-hating overgrown art students are full of libertarian tendencies, even if you don't choose to glimpse it firsthand at their sex clubs.

    Yeah, I have some terrible news for you Liz. Berlin is absolutely chock fucking full of lefties. That's why there were so many people who turned out there for the pro-government rallies against the AfD. Berlin is the Seattle of Germany. It's not quite Portland, but it's close.

  49. CE   1 year ago (edited)

    Biden’s age and memory have been questioned for the last couple of years. The only question is when Dems will pull the old switcheroo (to Newsom), and how they sideline Harris first.

    I'm guessing Biden will drop out for health reasons after the vote and before the Electoral College count, since the Electors will be bound to vote for Harris as VP then.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      My bet would be that he'll be pulled before the election, Harris will be Agnewed out of the way, and the Dems will insert a non-senile, bland candidate who would beat Trump. At that point, the GOP will be forced to dispense with Trump by any means necessary, and replace him with a non-senile, bland Republican. The actual election will be between Tweedle Red and Tweedle Blue.

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

        Trump isn’t senile. That’s just desperate posturing from State Media because of Biden’s obvious advanced dementia.

  50. Agammamon   1 year ago

    Does anyone give a fuck about Will Wheaton?

    I mean, its not being Wesley Crusher that has marred his life and career - its being Wil Wheaton that has done that. All he can do is simp for nu-Trek nowadays.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      And I'm not buying that he's heterosexual. Come out, Will.

  51. chemjeff radical individualist   1 year ago

    https://www.fox19.com/2024/02/08/butler-county-sheriff-calls-ohio-lawmakers-make-it-state-crime-be-illegal-immigrant/

    HAMILTON, Ohio (WXIX) - Butler County Sheriff Richard Jones is calling on state lawmakers to pass legislation allowing law enforcement to file felony charges against anyone in Ohio who is an illegal immigrant, similar to a controversial measure in Texas.

    So if you support this (and I imagine most of you do), please explain why it should be a *felony* to be in the country without proper papers, when the 'crime' being discussed here is at most a type of trespassing, which is a misdemeanor.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      According to you, they should be shot.

    2. Commenter_XY   1 year ago

      There are several federal laws that were broken by illegal aliens, simply by their entry. And BTW, illegal entry is not a victimless crime. We (taxpayers) are the victims. Our children suffer because we have to pay for the illegals.

      Why are illegal aliens better than my own children, my own flesh and blood. and lay claim on my money? Nobody asked me. Nobody asked the American Taxpayer if they were good with shorting their kids on the things in life to help support illegal aliens.

      Felony? How about we skip the felony and just put their illegal alien ass on a plane back home.

      1. Zeb   1 year ago

        But most of that crime is committed against us by our own governments.

        1. BYODB   1 year ago (edited)

          No, it’s inflicted on us by those who support a generous welfare state and also support unlimited immigration. The government is just the formalized system put in place to grant those desires.

          The part that chaps my ass is where they blame Trump or capitalism itself for the issues that are directly attributed to illegal immigration.

          The biggest proponents of those things are the wealthy Democrats on the left, and it’s little surprise that those are the exact people who will never see any of the first, second, or third order effects of those preferred policies.

          They’ve turned it into a moral imperative that we simply must spend all this money on illegal immigrants because they are less fortunate, which sounds good until you realize that there are already less fortunate citizens right here in the United States. Since funds are finite, it necessarily means less for the citizen.

          So we must ask the question: who are those ‘safety nets’ for, exactly? We certainly know who pays for them.

          Denver is cutting city services and they directly cite the imposed cost on the city by illegal immigrants as the cause. They were hoping to get a big fat check from the Fed so they wouldn’t have to make any tough decisions, but that did not pan out how they hoped it would. Thus, they stick it to the citizens of Denver with reduced services in order to give free cash and free housing (in an expensive as fuck market) to people with no legal right to be in the United States.

          I’d at least respect these people as being consistent if they demanded that the safety net be removed, but instead that rachet only turns one way.

    3. Medulla Oblongata   1 year ago

      Well cops shoot trespassers. At least on Jan 6.

  52. Roberta   1 year ago

    Polyvinyl alcohol is also in Elmer's Glue-All.

    1. Eeyore   1 year ago

      Microplastic-fearing, seed oil–loathing redpilled Joe Rogany hippie. Fun self descriptor.

  53. NM Dave   1 year ago

    this is an obviously political conclusion, but it's probably the only way they could justify dropping what was otherwise a slam-dunk case. Sorry, Joe and Dems... you have to take the bad with the good.

  54. TJJ2000   1 year ago (edited)

    Wow….

    The leftard [Na]tional So[zi]alist[s] just had their true-colors blown up on center stage. I don’t think they can sell enough self-projection to escape their blatantly obvious prejudices and bias governing at this point.

    “Who’s the Jew? Trump is the Jew…. Off to the Nazi-court with him.”, the entire Democratic Nazi party just said to the entire country.

    Ya think it's time YEEEEEET????? To obey the US Constitution and eliminate the ever-growing 'socialism'????? The Nation is literally banging down the door into becoming yet another 'socialist' casualty.

  55. Miss Ann Thrope (She/It)   1 year ago

    "serious felony that requires a mental state of willfulness."
    It's been a long time since I held a clearance so help me out here. I didn't think state of mind mattered. Careless handling alone with no mal intent was a felony.

    1. Vernon Depner   1 year ago

      That depends on whether the offender is a Republican or a Democrat.

  56. ravenshrike   1 year ago (edited)

    There were only three types of people who weren’t questioning Biden’s mental fitness during his 2020 presidential campaign. People with their heads so far up their own asses they could lick their duodenum, corrupt assholes, and old people with dementia as bad as his.

  57. Zipcreature   1 year ago

    FUCK ANTIFA, Fuck Progressives, fuck Post-Modernism, fuck the Covidians and them screaming at us about masks, fuck BLM & their “1619” Lefty enablers calling everything and everyone “raaaacist” and fuck those who clearly hate America.
    Enough of this non-sense - M A G A 2024

  58. Rob Misek   1 year ago (edited)

    But I’m not a Nazi

    Hey! That’s an insult.

    Hahaha

  59. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago (edited)

    Hi Sarc. We know this is your sock. Because you’re too much of a pussy to come at me head on. Stupid drunk bitch.

  60. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    You are in fact a Nazi, and a stupid little bitch.

  61. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    Sarc, Idaho doesn’t need some drunk Marxist piece of shit like you.

    Instead, kill yourself.

  62. EISTAU Gree-Vance   1 year ago

    Haha. What a pussy. You’re better off in Portland. It’s such a shit show there that they probably wouldn’t even notice another scared idiot like you.

  63. Idaho-Bob   1 year ago

    Oh, we won't start it. You leftists have violated the constitution long enough. Long train of abuses...

  64. Spiritus Mundi   1 year ago

    Probably a killallrednecks socks

  65. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    It's KAR. You can tell from the very anti-LDS take it has.

  66. InsaneTrollLogic   1 year ago

    It is.

  67. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    Could be. Sarc or KAR, it should kill itself.

  68. NM Dave   1 year ago

    Wow. What middle school do you go to?

  69. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    He is literally a Nazi. An honest to god Holocaust denying nazi that wants to wipe out the Jews. And clearly a moron.

    What would you have me say to him?

  70. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    Sounds more like Sarc to me. But you could be right. Either way, it needs a good beatdown.

  71. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    Nope. Almost no one who can actually fight is on the left. Plead delude yourself to the contrary. I would be very pleased to have a valid pretext to wipe you Marxists out once and for all.

    So bring it bitch. But we both know a pathetic pussy like you isn’t going to do shit. Unless it’s ten of you jumping an old lady.

  72. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    I want to get rid of the Marxists. They’re certainly welcome to leave without incident. That’s up to them. And Marxists are nowhere close to ‘the majority of the country’.

    Now that I’ve straightened you out on that, why don’t you toddle off and commit suicide?

  73. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    I can read, you Marxist faggot. You aren’t the majority. You’re just a loud minority that uses propaganda to dupe the stupid and weak minded into voting for Marxists. Once you’re gone this country can be fixed.

    Best you just commit suicide.

  74. Truthfulness   1 year ago

    @Lynn

    Go to Gaza and take Misek with you, since you're willing to defend such a deplorable scum like him.

  75. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   1 year ago

    It’s delusional you think that you and your fellow travelers wouldn’t be wiped out. That’s ok. You’ll all get Rittenhoused if you keep pushing.

  76. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   1 year ago

    "Buy Rittenhouse Brand arsonist extinguishers! Guaranteed effective against arsonists, and other lefty scum of all kinds!"

  77. Truthfulness   1 year ago

    @Lynn

    The inbreds are at Iceland, not Idaho.

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