How Increasing Immigration Can Reduce the Deficit
And why the Congressional Budget Office does a poor job of making those estimates.

Congress' official number-crunching agency is using a flawed method of calculating the economic benefits of greater immigration—potentially leading lawmakers to have a skewed understanding of how more immigration can help reduce federal deficits.
That's the argument made in an interesting new report by the Penn Wharton Budget Model, a fiscal policy think tank housed at the University of Pennsylvania, which claims that the Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is wildly underestimating how handing out more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars.
Specifically, the Penn Wharton analysis reviews the CBO's score of one portion of the America COMPETES Act, a sprawling Democratic proposal that rolls together a whole bunch of unrelated policies from manufacturing subsidies to wildlife trafficking. As Reason has previously reported, the bill is a mess. However, there are two worthy immigration-related proposals included in it, and the important one for the Penn Wharton analysis has to do with giving out more green cards to would-be immigrants with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics (STEM).
When the CBO scored that part of the bill—Section 80303, if you're following along at home—it found that allowing more STEM workers to immigrate to the U.S. would slightly add to the deficit because the CBO's model assumes that a larger population means higher federal spending on health insurance programs like the subsidies delivered via the Affordable Care Act.
However, as the Penn Wharton report highlights, the CBO's method of calculating the impact of greater immigration "excluded effects on taxable compensation and therefore on income and payroll tax revenues." In other words, the CBO did not estimate how immigrants would inevitably contribute tax revenue to the federal government and instead looked exclusively at how immigrants would be consumers of federal spending.
That's not the CBO's fault. Under the rules that guide its work, the CBO is instructed to use so-called "conventional" estimates for most pieces of legislation, and conventional estimates do not account for the possibility that the size of the economy will change in response to certain policies. Under a different method of making estimates—known as "dynamic scoring"—the CBO is allowed to take into account economic growth and other factors, but that method was not used to score the America COMPETES Act (and is generally not used for evaluating immigration proposals).
"Because conventional budget estimates hold employment unchanged relative to current law, such estimates do not fully capture the budgetary impact of proposed changes in immigration policy," the Penn Wharton report notes.
What happens when dynamic scoring is used to estimate the fiscal impact of handing out more green cards to highly skilled immigrants? Instead of causing a small net increase in the budget deficit, the Penn Wharton analysis found a huge reduction in the long-term deficit. While federal spending would still increase by about $4 billion over the decade, federal revenues would increase by $133 billion in the same period. That's due to "additional collections of individual income taxes (about two-thirds of the total) and payroll taxes (about one-third of the total) that would result primarily from an expansion of the U.S. labor force."
That's a huge difference. And it reflects what other research has shown: More legal immigration grows the economy, helps fund government programs, and doesn't strain entitlement or welfare programs.
As the Penn Wharton analysis points out, this is more than a debate over the proper way to score a piece of legislation. Underestimating the fiscal benefits of immigration can have a material impact on the passage of legislation, because "the estimated effect of a proposal on the deficit is especially salient in the legislative process," the Penn-Wharton report points out. "Proposals that are estimated to increase deficits are subject to additional points of order and other procedures that affect their consideration by Congressional committees and by the full House or Senate."
Fixing America's broken immigration system is going to be hard enough without Congress relying on faulty economic estimates that hide, among other things, how greater legal immigration can help reduce the budget deficit.
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If the immigration takes the form of deporting people back to their countries of origin.
Next question.
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If true, this would damage the economies of all their home countries. That could be considered an act of war.
Not that you care. Any argument against, immigration works for you.
Nobody thinks about the second order effects.
Did none of the lefties read the article?
You seen to be all conflating legal vs illegal immigration. You all seem to be also conflating randomized legal immigration vs targeted immigration (Canada largely does the latter).
They have their preconceived notions on how we all think (even though we’ve all at one point or another gotten more nuanced about our positions) but it’s all of us who are the tribalists.
The argument against mass immigration is that Americans don’t want it. That’s all that’s needed. Americans want limited immigration of skilled, law-abiding, culturally compatible, successful individuals, nothing more.
Any other statements we make about mass immigration are simply debunking bullshit pro-mass-immigration people like you and Fiona spew.
It does. Any argument at all. In fact no argument is required. Don't just shut the borders, SEAL THEM, and let in only documented citizens of the United States who are returning home!! Deport illegals, execute those who return and are caught a second time.
“handing out more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars.”
That’s not how you Open Borders, bruh.
But the high skilled immigrants take the good jobs from Americans.
The low skilled immigrants are the ones who take the jobs Americans think they themselves are too good for.
So any liberalized immigration policy should prioritize seasonal unskilled labor, making it easier to crack down on undocumented immigrants who might be up to no good.
Blue collar Americans don't think they are too good for construction and agriculture jobs. They simply can't compete with low skilled illegal migrants, who are free of many of the expenses Americans have
The poorest Americans are hurt the worst by illegal migration
Exactly
That’s not how you Open Borders, bruh.
It gets even better as the projection asserts lower healthcare costs from the ACA. Which means not only would we prefer younger immigrants from places with STEM education infrastructure, we would also prefer younger immigrants from places with relatively modern and available healthcare systems.
So, more Elon Musks, Sergey Brins, Peter Thiels…
That's a huge difference. And it reflects what other research has shown: More legal immigration grows the economy, helps fund government programs, and doesn't strain entitlement or welfare programs.
Leftist lies. Trump said they're the cause of our problems, which means they're the cause of our problems.
Trump said
Immigrants are vermin. Every fascist says that.
Youre talking to someone who also dehumanizes people, Herr Sarc.
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Now the other dogs started barking too. Got the whole kennel riled up.
Nope. He didn’t. You’re a lying cunt.
And a pedophile.
Congressional Budget Office (CBO) is wildly underestimating how handing out more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars.
Are you too stupid to read the article? Legal and high skilled. Not the low skilled illegals you rush to defend and ignore the costs.
Trump said LEGAL immigrants are a problem?
When?
Dynamic scoring is obviously the way to go, and the results are entirely unsurprising - reformulated, highly-educated workers more than pay for themselves. Shocker.
Of course, people who are anti-immigration regardless of who's being admitted will disagree with the study because if the study is correct, why then the economic argument for admitting some immigrants is strengthened.
Dynamic scoring would be discriminating. Discriminating is bad, mkay?
who are anti-immigration regardless of who’s being admitted will disagree with the study
Like who?
This has always been the argument. This argument is not an open borders argument. It is a targeted migration plan argument.
Other than Herr Misek and the three simpleton sisters, no one here seems to be a blatent bigot. I've never seen regular use of racial pejoratives or arguments for zero new entries based on immutable characteristics. It seems that most here would welcome any immigrant who came here after following proper procedure and vetting, who has a skill which might provide a societal benefit. I'm not sure many would argue against dire situational immigration as long we go back to a sponsorship policy. Systemic racism is a ridiculous myth, but a very profitable grift. We are a welcoming country, and should be proud that everyone wants to come here, but without a gate...well just ask a pair of NY cops.
I still visit the graves of the family that sponsored my refugee grandparents and mother.
The total number of comments I've made here since before fucking Hinh died is likely still only in double digits. Congratulations, you've really been especially stupid and insufferable. Fucking useless jackass.
I've known actual bigots. They stand out like a pink haired lesbian. They don't use dog whistles, coded messages or secret handshakes. They tell a group of college freshman girls who come into his store that everything has been horrible since that nigger got in the White House. When they hear about a cop shooting a black kid they say things like that's one less nigger in the world. So yeah, bigots are easy to see. We aren't them. So yeah whichever halfwit I've grey boxed who said that crap is a fucking useless jackass.
Yes, we should admit more skilled immigrants.
Unfortunately, only about 10% of immigrant visas every year are given based on skill.
So, the logical conclusion is to eliminate the immigrant visa categories based on family ties, diversity, and other “special circumstances” and allocate 100% of our immigrant visas based on skill.
See, that way, we don’t have to increase immigration levels, we can stop paying the costs associated with unskilled immigration, and we benefit from the fiscal contributions of skilled immigrants.
So more welfare and unemployment reduces the deficit is the argument you're making because you're a dishonest Leftist twat that will ignore the high skill limitation and just push for illiterate gang members with open borders policy instead.
Isn't this a no brainer? Working people pay more taxes than they consume, otherwise the nation would be in debt and approaching bankrup....uhhh...never mind.
Doesn't matter if they are high-skilled or low-skilled. They are socialists who vote for Biden. Therefore kick 'em out. Isn't that how it works?
Ok sarc.
Man, you guys can’t even get your opponents arguments right.
Sad.
By most studies, conservatives are able to understand progressive arguments but progs are incapable of understanding conservative arguments.
Well that can't be true because it's Blue cities that are the most vocal about keeping the immigrants out.
No you fat ducking piece of shit. Kick them out because THEY’RE HERE ILLEGALLY.
You’re just a lying, hyperbolic Marxist. You better pray the rule of law makes a comeback. I don’t favor your odds if things get real.
Eric, please rewrite this distinguishing between legal immigration and illegal border invasions.
Thank you.
Yeah, I noticed that as well. They always conflate legal and illegal immigration. In this specific case, they are discussing legal immigration changes that make sense. So, fine, but then extrapolating that to all forms of immigrant is disingenuous.
We get it already. We need immigrants of all kinds to shore up our aging populations welfare and entitlement programs via taxation of people who don't get a say in our government and who are ineligible to get payments from those systems. Why that's so hard for Reason to understand is anyone's guess, but that is certainly the ruling classes opinion on the issue.
I don't know a lot of people who are pissed off about legal immigration, either. Most are more irritated by the illegal variety for a host of different reasons so I'm not really sure who this article is aimed at. It certainly won't change any minds.
So one interesting tidbit about the latest jobs report...
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Interesting to note who has the jobs: they've all gone to foreign-born workers; not only are native-born workers way below their pre-pandemic trend, but they're even below the pre-pandemic level (Jan '24 vs. Jan '20):
https://twitter.com/RealEJAntoni/status/1753450904840286367
What are the odds the model ignored shifting current workers onto welfare based programs?
But ‘replacement theory’ is just a conservative boogeyman!
And lose his open borders Koch/Reason article of the week bonus?
Motte: giving out more green cards to would-be immigrants with advanced degrees in science, technology, engineering, or mathematics (STEM).
Bailey: Migrant encounters at southern border hit record 302K in December
'How Increasing Immigration Can Reduce the Deficit'
The federal deficit or the Koch Industries deficit?
Is there anything immigration *can't* do?
Over 2 million asylum seekers hit the US border last year. Few of them were highly skilled immigrants. Not many people are against visas for the highly skilled, that's what they are for. But that's not what we are getting.
The “high skilled” immigrants take high paying tech jobs from Americans, at lower salaries. Lots of people are opposed to easier H1B visas for the highly skilled.
There's a game immigration lawyers play to make excuses to import the H1Bs.
The requirement is to.prive there are no Americans who can fill the job. So they have to put ads in 3 newspapers. Well the lawyers put those ads in newspapers where odds are no one has a college degree, much less a STEM degree. Thus no Americans who want the job and are qualified for the job ever hear about the job. Then they are ok to being in an H1B Slave from overseas.
The program is badly abused and the rules are easily manipulated. It's almost as if Immigration Lawyers wrote the law.....
Maybe the Americans should check their privilege. /s
Yeah, illegal aliens are filing their income tax forms even as we speak. They're doing it on the free iPhones the gubberment gave them. All that tax is OF COURSE going to offset the free medical care, free housing, free food, free whatever given to them by the gubberment. "Free" meaning paid for by taxpayers, of course. And of course the likes of Fiona Harrigan have been sedulously filling out W2s for their maids and gardeners. Reminder -- leafblowers are only deductible as a business expense to the extent that they're electric and not gas powered.
Amd were all the illegals in NYC getting their motor scooters? And how are they legally operating them?
Immigration is good. Illegal incursion of foreigners is not.
Case closed.
When all you have is a hammer, every problem looks like a nail.
Being required to use "conventional budget estimates" does not prevent the Congressional Budget Office from adding comments - which it frequently does - warning about limitations built into the process and what the results would have looked like if those constraints were ignored.
I actually agree that immigration COULD be massively beneficial to our country today... if we were actually bringing in mainly immigrants with educations and advanced skills for the 21st century.
By and large though, the seemingly endless tidal wave of cholos flooding across the Rio Grande have no noteworthy skills to do anything that pretty much anyone couldn't do. Many of them are completely illiterate in their own native tongue(s)!
I really don't understand how illiterate peasants who don't speak the local language can improve our economy while staying off our government charity roles. Americans with no education and piss poor language skills tend to wind up receiving government charity. We have plenty of illiterate peasants already on our government charity roles.
However, we do have something of a duty to take in people escaping their own socialist shitholes to find a better life. But that duty costs a large sum of money. We can't help people if we can't help the illiterate peasants already in our country.
The other option would be to force these nations that are socialist shitholes whose population comes here in waves to be less shitty. I mean, if millions vote with their feet every year their homelands must suck real bad. Perhaps our duty to the huddled masses yearning to breathe free is to draft our own illiterate peasants into the Army and use the bolstered forces to create regime change South of the border.
Maybe if Mexico wasn't a cartel playground and their government wasn't a kleptocracy they'd stop coming north.
We don’t have any duty to help foreigners find a ‘better life’. Maybe those people should rise up and overthrow their socialist oppressors and make their own countries better.
How Increasing Immigration Can Reduce the Deficit
Oh, this is gonna be a doozy. Did you send your research to New York, Chicago and Denver?
Fucking LOL…
Trump 2018: “Why do we want these people from all these shithole countries here? We should have more people from places like Norway.”
Reason 2018: OMG! Can you believe what a terrible, disgusting, vile, bigotted, moron he is?! I can’t tell which is worse, that he described them as shithole countries or that he doesn’t value all people equally!
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Reason 2024: OK, letting anyone and everyone with a pulse across our imaginary social construct doesn’t seem to be working out how we hoped fiscally or politically but… how about… and hear me out on this one… we preferentially let in the people with really good education to contribute to the tax base and we preferentially let in the healthy ones so they don’t consume as much healthcare. So prioritized immigration to well-educated immigrants from places where the people are mostly pretty healthy.
I don’t see anything about “preferentially” in the article. The article is just trying to use equivocation and misdirection to argue for handing out even more green cards.
Reprioritizing would, of course, be the natural conclusion. 90% of green cards right now are given out based on family ties, diversity, etc. The logical solution is to eliminate almost all of those non-skill based green cards and reallocate them to skill-based immigration.
The US actually would have a hard time even filling a million skill-based green cards every year, because high skill immigrants are in limited supply around the world.
(1) “Greater immigration” is meaningless without saying who is immigrating. High income high skilled immigration may lead to more tax revenue, but more low skill and family based integration does not.
(2) The current population of illegal migrants (“undocumented immigrants”) is clearly a massive net drain on government resources. None of those people should be permitted to stay.
(3) Increasing the supply of workers in some area depresses wages in that area. So, you may well end up with less tax revenues even for increasing the number of immigrants in high income areas of the economy.
(4) Increasing immigration comes at a cost to Americans even if it results in more government tax revenues.
Altogether, these arguments are bogus. The US currently has one million legal immigrants per year and that’s a reasonable level. Illegals should be deported and our legal immigration system should be shifted almost entirely to skill-based immigration.
There is, as Quicktown Brix suggests, also still the problem of feeding the leviathan in order to kill the leviathan.
Bringing in more immigrants to offset the deficits only, by design, offsets the deficits for their “generation” or even less. Unless they all suddenly become early 18th or early 19th C. agrarian-style “Be fruitful” Judeo-Christians (culturally, in the history of this country anyway) and have like 8 kids each and tell the government to fuck off with their spending, we’re just going to be right back where we started, needing another million or so highly-skilled immigrants in a decade or so.
The whole thing is bullshit. Why should the American citizen have to someone against everyone in the world for a job in their own country.
Fuck open borders, fuck Boehm, fuck Reason, and fuck trash like Pluggo and Pedo Jeffy.
Problem is the green-cards currently being handed out aren’t representing the high-skilled immigrant who doesn’t take gobs of welfare….
So what kind a F’En idiot thinks handing out more is somehow going to change the current “too much” already status?
The US has more immigration than any other larger nation on the planet yet far too many keep preaching complete BS as it’s oh so limited…. Someone’s got an agenda and it’s loaded with BS lies.
What kind of idiot? Pedo Jeffy comes to mind.
man, the cultural globalists who run Reason will find any ridiculous excuse to destroy their number one enemy..Euro American Christians. Old world greviences is what I call this insanity.
Sure, allowing more electrical engineers who have an employer who has a job for them is a good thing. millions of overweight single moms with 10 kids who don't speak English opportunity cost is pretty negative on govt cash flows.
Better idea to handle the debt. Shut down every federal agency and program created after 1932 (allow Americans to cash in their SS donations and States can set up their own pension funds if they like), sell most federal land which isn't a national park, cut defense to Eisenhower levels in real dollars and stop all this foreign adventures and military aid. Deporting all the neocons and neolibs back to whatever eastern european corrupt pro commie country would also help quite a bit.
Do we really need anymore cop beaters here Reason?
High skilled legal immigrants... Single, unmarried men from 3rd world countries with less than a high school education illegally entering the country with no way to track them... One of these things ain't like the other.
"High skilled legal immigrants…"
Illegal immigrants are likely to be skilled in some areas. And they are also likely to be resourceful, bold, ambitious and determined risk takers. All characteristics of someone who's got the potential to thrive and make the most of the new environment. It's those legal immigrants, those who are willing to wait like sheep in line, filling out endless government paperwork as demanded by endless government bureaucracies, that you have to worry about.
how handing out more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars.
I agree: we should do that. And we can accomplish that by giving out fewer green cards to low-skill immigrants.
Right now, 90% of green cards are awarded based on family ties, diversity, and other non-skill criteria. Let’s eliminate most of those green cards!
handing out more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit by hundreds of billions of dollars
Well DUH. But how many among those hordes illegally crossing the border do you think count to that?
Why would you not title this article, "How Increasing LEGAL Immigration Can Reduce the Deficit".
You can support legal immigration without supporting the travesty that's happening at the border, y'know.
"Why would you not title this article, “How Increasing LEGAL Immigration Can Reduce the Deficit”. "
I assume that most high-skilled immigrants are legal immigrants. You get to learn a profession and follow a career by being compliant, even docile, willing to follow the rules and doing what's expected of you. Illegal immigrants are willing to take the initiative and act in defiance of the law. Whatever skills the illegal immigrants have, they are not likely to involve post graduate degrees or highly paid corporate positions.
That's the same for citizens.
You get to learn a profession and follow a career by being compliant, even docile, willing to follow the rules and doing what’s expected of you. Criminals are willing to take the initiative and act in defiance of the law.
The simple fact of the matter is, we can categorize immigrants the same way we do citizens. Good, decent, hardworking folks who respect the rule of law and some positive moral code; and criminal dirtbags.
We used to revere the former, and abhor the latter. Now it's the other way around.
"We used to revere the former, and abhor the latter."
It's fine to abhor criminals. But in the bargain you're also abhorring entrepreneurs, artists, inventors, explorers, and anyone else who values their freedom, hates to be confined or micromanaged, and are inclined to reject the role of salaryman.
If those entrepreneurs, artists, inventors, explorers, and anyone else who values their freedom are committing crimes (so much for valuing freedom) then why wouldn't you abhor them?
“then why wouldn’t you abhor them?”
Because I’m not a hypocrite. If they are engaging in crimes I myself have committed, I can hardly condemn them. Some countries have drug prohibitions, are picky about their borders and lots of other rules and regulations which I will happily ignore when it’s convenient.
Many commenting here are of an authoritarian cast, champing at the bit to abhor anyone the law tells them to. Not me. ‘Question Authority’ are my watch words.
If they are engaging in crimes I myself have committed, I can hardly condemn them.
That is some convoluted, lowest of lowest common denominator thinking there pal. "I murdered someone, so I guess I'm cool with other people murdering. Wouldn't want to be a hypocrite."
Your refusal to condemn yourself for your criminal acts does not mean all crime and criminal dirtbags should therefore get a pass by the rest of society which can somehow manage not to do such things.
"more green cards to high-skilled immigrants could reduce the deficit..."
I don't think the "immigration problem" involves high-skilled immigrants. The US already takes in a million immigrants per year. It is the invasion of low-skilled illegals that is causing problems.
" It is the invasion of low-skilled illegals that is causing problems."
I don't hold with this scapegoating of those who struggle hardest to make a living. Whatever problems they do cause pale in comparison to native born assholes like Joe Biden and other highly respected pillars of the state.
No, increasing immigration will not reduce the deficit. If we're talking only about highly skilled workers, then maybe. But even then, the math is not in their favor.
When these new immigrants are eligible for medicare, they will almost certainly take 3 times more than what they paid in. The notion they'll remain duly employed until then and consistently provide revenue is fantasy. They'll take unemployment, food stamps, medi-cal, etc. The state has to pay for the education of their children.
Look at CA - do they have a balanced budget? Reduced deficit? It's the ninth largest economy in the world, thanks in no small part to immigration. But it's also the poorest state when cost of living is factored in. Because the takers ultimately outnumber the givers, and the former swells in size every year thanks to unchecked borders. And they vote against economic freedom, which enables immigrants to thrive.
You can't reduce deficit without cutting spending, even with increased revenue - right? Are we going to spend LESS with more immigrants, or more? Give it a thought.
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