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Campus Free Speech

Ivy League Double Standards

Plus: Deepfakes in porn, Randi Weingarten's amnesia, San Francisco's Chinese-name crackdown, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 12.6.2023 9:30 AM

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Free speech is suddenly a major value of college presidents: Yesterday, the presidents of Harvard, the University of Pennsylvania, and the Massachusetts Institute of Technology testified in front of Congress, discussing the reports of antisemitism on these campuses and university policies toward the speech of student activist groups.

"You are president of Harvard, so I assume you're familiar with the term intifada correct?" Rep. Elise Stefanik (R–N.Y.) asked Harvard President Claudine Gay. "You understand that the use of the term intifada, in the context of the Israeli-Arab conflict, is indeed a call for violent armed resistance against the state of Israel, including violence against civilians and the genocide of Jews?"

"That type of hateful speech is personally abhorrent to me," responded Gay. Stefanik did not accept this demurral and continued to press the college president on whether these student groups' speech violated Harvard's code of conduct.

"We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful," responded Gay.

The trouble is, this isn't really true: Some professors, like Carole Hooven, have been put through the wringer for their speech.

After publishing her book, T: The Story of Testosterone, the Hormone that Dominates and Divides Us, Hooven appeared on a Fox show. She is "in favor of using language that makes people feel respected and comfortable" but also says that "we should … be unafraid to use clear, indispensable scientific terms like 'male' and 'female.'" She maintains that "sex categories are facts of nature which do not carry implications for anyone's value or rights." After coming under fire for these beliefs, Hooven was placed under investigation by university administrators, ultimately taking a long leave of absence.

"When speech crosses into conduct that violates our policies, including policies against bullying, harassment or intimidation, we take action," Gay told Stefanik. "We have robust disciplinary processes that allow us to hold individuals accountable," Gay said.

These disciplinary processes are frequently unevenly applied, though.

As a reminder, it was a group of two dozen Harvard student groups that wrote the words, immediately following Hamas' October 7 slaughter of civilians, "We, the undersigned student organizations, hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for all unfolding violence." This sentiment was echoed elsewhere, including in terms like "glory to our martyrs" (at the University of California, Berkeley, and Georgetown). It's hard to imagine such odious speech being allowed on campus if it were directed at other minority groups, or expressed in the wake of a different tragedy.

More scenes from the hearing here:

The presidents of @Harvard, @MIT, and @Penn were all asked the following question under oath at today's congressional hearing on antisemitism:

Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university's] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?

The… pic.twitter.com/eVlPCHMcVZ

— Bill Ackman (@BillAckman) December 5, 2023

Israel-Hamas fighting heats back up: In southern Gaza's city of Khan Younis, Israeli forces are going house to house, exchanging fire with Hamas all across residential parts of the city. An Israel Defense Forces official described yesterday as "the most intense day since the beginning of the ground operation."

"Our forces find in nearly every building and house weapons and in many houses terrorists, and engage them in combat," said IDF official Herzi Halevi. "We understand that part of their method is the weapons left in the houses. A terrorist arrives in civilian clothing and conducts combat from there," Halevi continued.

World Health Organization representatives say the situation has quickly deteriorated in southern Gaza, with Khan Younis and even southern border cities like Rafah being constantly bombarded. Nasser and Al Aqsa hospitals are reaching the limits of their ability to provide services to patients. The United Nations reported that 1.9 million of the total 2.2 million residents of the Gaza Strip have now been displaced by war.

"Israel has designated a number of 'safe zones' to which it says people in Gaza should move to avoid the fighting," per The New York Times, "but many in the enclave cannot access Israel's directions because they have no electricity and poor to nonexistent internet and cellphone service."


Scenes from New York: For decades, The Hole—a tiny, flooded neighborhood that sits on the border between Brooklyn and Queens, off of Conduit Boulevard—has been derelict and neglected. It's served as a graveyard/dumping ground for mobsters, and had a Federation of Black Cowboys outpost, replete with horses. Now, the city plans to make improvements, including possibly hooking up the 12-block neighborhood to the sewage system used by the rest of the five boroughs. "I don't believe the city," one resident told Bloomberg.


QUICK HITS

  • "Because of the city's robust Chinese-speaking population, ballots [for local elections in San Francisco] are in both English and Chinese, which has led many non-Chinese candidates to adopt a Chinese name in an effort to appeal to monolingual Chinese voters," reports The San Francisco Standard. But now, the board of elections is cracking down on this, so "self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them" or "have been using the names for at least two years."
  • Tomorrow, the guild at The Washington Post is asking readers not to cross the picket line and engage with their products. "Since our last contract, Post journalists have covered two wars, an insurrection, a pandemic, gun violence in America, climate disasters, two presidential campaigns and more," the union writes in a statement. "Our former publisher's bad business decisions squandered our profits. Instead of executives bearing the weight of this mismanagement, The Post repeatedly made workers pay the price," including laying off 40 people in the last year. But layoffs have hit this whole industry, and the self-congratulatory tone they're striking—for, y'know, doing their jobs—is straight-up bizarre.
  • Speaking of which: The U.S. is experiencing a cooling of the labor market, per Bureau of Labor Statistics data.
  • Teachers unions did not prioritize the reopening of schools. Does Weingarten have amnesia?

In-person learning is where kids do best, which is why educators & their unions worked hard to reopen US schools for safe in-person learning beginning back in April 2020, and why we've spent the last several years following the pandemic prioritizing public schooling & investing…

— Randi Weingarten ????????????????????????????‍???????? (@rweingarten) December 5, 2023

  • The Venezuelan-Guyana crisis and Nicolas Maduro's comments on oil, explained by Latin American politics writer Daniel di Martino.
  • The New York Times describes Megyn Kelly using the term mask fascists as "stoking the culture war grievances." What term would they prefer?
  • Everything you've ever wanted to know about deepfakes in porn.
  • Chinese President Xi Jinping is looking to seize greater control of the country's financial system.

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  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Joe finally matches up to Obama with his own Solyndra scandal as EV bus manufacturer (although a certain Biden apppintee made a shit ton of money on stocks after Biden funded them) goes bankrupt.

    https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/energy/bankrupt-biden-favored-proterra-leaves-trail-broken-buses-cant-be-repaired

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      Someone will get thrown under the bus for this.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        There will be a battery of charges.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          This was planned to jump start and power the green industry.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            This is terminal. Is it a positive or negative?

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Look, resisting this change is wrong.

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Watt really happened? The facility was never able to function at maximum capacity?

                1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

                  I bet the executives ran off with everything but the family joules.

                  1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                    Even Henry's?
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                  2. Chumby   2 years ago

                    If prosecuted and convicted, they might get placed in a cell.

                    1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

                      Would they do more time than someone convicted of assault and battery?

                    2. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Could be a bad ohmen if they did.

                2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

                  A short story.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    This story is false. It is buggy whip owners trying to create impedence for new technology.

                    1. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Their business model may not have been grounded in reality.

                    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

                      The buggy whip makers get a charge out of the BDSM community, who, in turn, get a charge out of consensual battery.
                      🙂
                      😉

              2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                I do not have the capacity to amplify my thoughts on this subject. Or, as the kids would say: I can't even.
                🙂
                😉

            2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              It looks like this company is grounded.
              🙂
              😉

      2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

        And they will be compleatly safe if the bus is an ev, because it would be able to move

      3. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        This goes against the current policy.

      4. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        what a re-volt-ing development this is.

    2. Anomalous   2 years ago

      The wheels on the bus no longer go round and round.

      1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

        But how many bottles of beer are still on the wall?

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Just a row of dead soldiers now.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      What about EV RVs? Or EV ATVs or EV SUVs?
      🙂
      😉

    4. MT-Man   2 years ago

      Wow our area has buses by them, I believe they are also bankrupt now?

    5. Trollificus   2 years ago

      Over two dozen electrifying responses followed this, which may be a record, or in the top 10 or so.

      Just thought I'd get a plug in for it.

  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Ever wonder why it feels like liberals are ignorant on most topics? They are. Bill Maher doesn't know who Klaus Schwab is nor what MK ultra was.

    https://scnr.com/article/whos-that-bill-maher-reveals-to-roseanne-barr-hes-never-heard-of-mk-ultra-world-economic-forum_2884f05792df11ee9c930242ac1c0002

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      https://reason.com/volokh/2020/01/30/trump-supporters-verbal-ability/

      "less than half of 2016 Clinton supporters (49.6%) are able to answer correctly both of two related questions: whether the earth goes around the sun or the sun goes around the earth (EARTHSUN) and whether that takes a day, a month, or a year (SOLARREV)."

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        But I bet they believe in The Science.

      2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        That's because, technically, both revolve around a point in between them (but closer to the sun), and even more technically, the other planets affect this "rotation" also.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          Yes, that's what the people meant who answered 'once per day'. They were clearly referring to relative motion in a complex gravitational dynamic system, and are not morons.

          They went on to expand that the heliosphere itself revolves around the supermassive black hole Sagittarius A* and the center of our galaxy, and that of course the universe itself is expanding.

          1. Trollificus   2 years ago

            And they then went on to offer up the cosmological insight that this is probably due to racism. Or Trump.

      3. American Mongrel   2 years ago

        "But the Trump era is helping Democrats to catch up: the Republican advantage dropped to insignificance in 2016, and in 2018 Democrats (6.03 correct) actually scored slightly (but insignificantly) higher than Republicans (5.98 correct)."

      4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Marcuse's alliance of the college educated and the ghetto populations is finally confirmed.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Bill Maher doesn’t know who Klaus Schwab is

      So Bill doesn't get his CT from wingnut.com?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Yes. WEF and Davos are minor stories. Nobody knows who they are.

        Was this the new Soros talking point?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          WEF and Davos don't mean shit to the United States.

          Unless you believe that "spooky Jews" are undermining this country - are you Glenn Beck by any chance?

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            Man. Already retreating to being against globalism and global oligarchy is antisemitic, which is an antisemitic construction. Lol.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              Yeah, I am for free trade and for peaceful agreements like NATO.

              Both which you MAGA nuts demonize. Tell me, why are you here? Other than to promote Fatass Donnie and his provincialism?

              1. Chumby   2 years ago

                Why do you have a 2 after your name?

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  His original handle was banned for posting kiddie porn links.

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Yet Reason allows him to stay?
                    I donated $0 to them this year.

                    1. Trollificus   2 years ago

                      Yeah, no. Somehow I find that my disengagement with REASON has very little to do with insufficient moderation of the comment threads.

                      You can block the guy, same as you deal with flat-earthers and Moon Landing Hoaxers.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Globalism isn't free trade dumbass. They literally push for regulated economies free trade requires competition, something they do not advocate.

                Stop using terms you dont understand.

                1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

                  It's managed trade. But as we all know, the racist pedo turd lies.

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            "Unless you believe that “spooky Jews” are undermining this country"

            Buttplug is such an evil piece of shit.

            Criticize an evil old billionaire who funds violence and fascism like Soros, or the fascist children of actual Nazi soldiers and officials like Freeland and Schwab (none of whom identify as Jews), and he'll cry "antisemitism".

            Meanwhile there's an actual slow-rolling Kristallnacht being perpetrated by Democrats, with Jewish businesses having their windows smashed and Jews being assaulted and even killed for being Jewish but not a peep from Buttplug.

            No condemnation or criticism from Buttplug either for the following that was posted above by Liz:
            "Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?
            The answers they gave reflect the profound moral bankruptcy of Presidents Gay, Magill and Kornbluth.
            Representative Elise Stefanik was so shocked with the answers that she asked each of them the same question over and over again, and they gave the same answers over and over again.
            In short, they said:
            It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews."

            Then when Misek makes antisemitic posts here that would make Himmler blush, almost the entire commentariat tells to fuck off... except for Buttplug and Chemjeff.

            So the next time you see Buttplug cry "antisemitic" tell him to fuck himself.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              I have told you repeatedly that I am in the Sam Harris camp of liberalism - that Islam is the "mother lode of bad ideas" and I condemn all Islamo-fascism - you miserable liar.

              Soros/Open Society is the ultimate in free speech and anti-authoritarian - which pisses you theocrats off.

              We secular humanists will win in the long game.

              1. damikesc   2 years ago

                So, you support lying if you really dislike somebody. Got it.

                That is the Sam Harris camp, you realize.

                1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  Yeah, when Plugstick said he was in the Sam Harris camp, I realized that he hasn't actually been paying attention to how Sam's been busy discrediting his former positions lately.

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                Soros/Open Society is literally funding the Palestinian groups dumbass.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  And straight from the Open Society itself:

                  https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/newsroom/open-society-announces-a-3-3-million-emergency-fund-for-critical-support-in-palestine-and-israel

                  The Open Society Foundations announced today a $3.3 million emergency funding initiative to provide critical support to their partners and grantees operating in Palestine and Israel as they work tirelessly to protect civilians caught in the horrific crisis.

                  The funding will be directed toward leading human rights organizations documenting violations of international humanitarian law in Gaza and protecting vulnerable communities under attack including Palestinians in the West Bank and inside Israel.

                  “As the political and humanitarian crisis unfolds, we are proud to step up our support to our partners. Now more than ever it is vital for donors to remain steadfast in their support to human rights defenders caught in this dire conflict and facing grave challenges,” said Open Society Foundations President Mark Malloch-Brown.

                  Open Society has joined its partners and international groups in calling for a humanitarian ceasefire, the release of all remaining hostages, provision of aid, and adherence to international humanitarian law—all essential precursors to an urgently needed political solution.

                  The Open Society Foundations have been working in Israel and Palestine since 1999 with a focus on the rights of minorities in Israel, the rights of Palestinians living under Israeli occupation in the West Bank and Gaza, and efforts towards reaching a peaceful solution to the conflict.

                  What does this mean to you, Pluggo?

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    Open Society has joined its partners and international groups in calling for a humanitarian ceasefire, the release of all remaining hostages, provision of aid, and adherence to international humanitarian law—all essential precursors to an urgently needed political solution.

                    I'm a bit more hawkish.

                    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      So, in other words, Henry Kissinger is your hero.

                    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Buttplug is a neocon.

              4. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Soros/Open Society is the ultimate in free speech and anti-authoritarian

                Bullshit.

              5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Let's talk about Mr. Soros, shall we?

                Stick with me, these are excerpts from a long read (dated 2018):

                https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/the-truth-about-george-soros

                But here in America, Soros chose another route, to support a team rather than a mission. And on that team are some of the forces of illiberalism that threaten to rip apart the open society here in the same way that those on the other end of the political spectrum are ripping it apart in Europe.

                In the United States, where he is one of the biggest donors to the Democratic Party and left-wing causes more generally, Soros has also collected a coterie of right-wing enemies, not least of them the current president of the United States. When, in the midst of Justice Brett Kavanaugh’s contentious Supreme Court confirmation battle, a pair of female sexual assault victims confronted Arizona Republican Sen. Jeff Flake in an elevator and screamed at him for four minutes, conservatives pointed out that one of the women serves as executive director of an organization—the Center for Popular Democracy—which received $1.5 million from Open Society in 2016 and 2017 alone.

                The American conservative critique of George Soros carries a different valence than the European right-wing nationalist one, and for two reasons. The first is rooted in simple geography. When the government of Hungary, a country from where over 600,000 Jews were deported to Auschwitz with the connivance of a local gendarmerie whose efficiency impressed even the SS, launches an all-of-government crusade against a prominent Jewish figure, and does so in the midst of an already extensive campaign of Holocaust revisionism encompassing the creation of new historical institutes, museums, history textbooks, and a memorial in Budapest’s most prominent public square dedicated to whitewashing the country’s past crimes, it is unquestionably anti-Semitic.

                When, on the other hand, American conservatives, who claim no such blood-and-soil fascist pedigree, and operate in a completely different socio-cultural-political environment, assert that George Soros generously funds a variety of partisan Democratic and left-wing organizations—a well-documented fact, despite the protestations of The Washington Post’s “Fact Checker”—well, it certainly has the potential for being anti-Semitic, if those conservatives deploy traditionally anti-Semitic tropes. But the mere mention of George Soros’ name in connection with the many political outfits he funds is not intrinsically anti-Semitic. Many American conservatives oppose Soros not because he’s Jewish. They oppose him because he’s liberal.

                The second reason why the American debate over George Soros differs from that in Europe concerns the contrasting nature of the man’s activities on both continents. In Europe, Soros is mostly funding politically neutral initiatives that further Karl Popper’s vision of the open society. If it is right-wing nationalist governments and populist movements that more often find themselves the subject of criticism by OSF, it’s because those governments and movements currently pose the greatest threat to Europe’s open societies. In the United States, however, Soros is a major funder of partisan politics; according to Federal Election Commission and Internal Revenue Service records analyzed by The New York Times, he has personally contributed more than $75 million to Democratic candidates and committees. Through his Open Society Foundations, the second-biggest philanthropic institution in the United States, he funds a multitude of explicitly left-wing causes. Soros’ lifetime spending through OSF ($32 billion) vastly outpaces that of the libertarian Koch brothers ($2 billion). Yet while both Soros and the Kochs are regularly subjected to hoary and conspiratorial vilifications by their political adversaries, the Kochs receive none of the deference Soros gets from the mainstream media.

                Soros’ likening of George W. Bush and those who worked for him to Adolf Hitler and the Nazis wasn’t just hyperbole, or a slip of the tongue. It was a very deliberate comparison he made on numerous occasions to reporters, in his own writings and at high-profile public events.

                As for Islamic extremism, Soros saw a moral equivalence between the actions of groups like al-Qaeda and the democratic societies defending themselves against their depredations. “We abhor terrorists, because they kill innocent people for political goals,” he told Newsweek in 2006. “But by waging war on terror we are doing the same thing.”

                Anti-Bush venom blinded Soros to the geopolitical consequences of American retrenchment, particularly in the regions he held most dear: Central and Eastern Europe and the broader post-Soviet space.

                Soros was an early backer of MoveOn, the aggressively partisan, left-wing organization which once published a full-page advertisement in The New York Times slandering Gen. David Petraeus as “General Betray Us.” Last year, MoveOn published a guide titled “How to Bird-Dog,” providing its followers with tips for harassing elected officials in public. Soros is also a major funder of Media Matters, the watchdog group founded by right-wing hit man turned left-wing hit man David Brock, whose stock-in-trade is the organized boycott of conservative media figures.

                Soros, again through Open Society, is also a donor to the Center for Constitutional Rights, the nonprofit litigation group founded by radical lawyers Arthur Kinoy (a defense counsel for the Rosenbergs) and William Kunstler, who never met a terrorist (domestic or foreign) he wasn’t eager to defend. Its former longtime director, Michael Ratner, was an admirer of Che Guevara and the communist Cuban dictatorship.

                Open Society also funds the Southern Poverty Law Center, the discredited “anti-hate” organization which recently paid a $3.375 million settlement to the British Muslim reformer Maajid Nawaz after slandering him as an “anti-Muslim extremist”—Nawaz being a prime example of a believer in an open society that the George Soros of 30 years ago pledged to support, as a matter of philosophical principle. (SPLC later confirmed that OSF funded the report that put Nawaz on a blacklist.)

                It can certainly be argued that if Soros were truly committed to the “open society” ideals of Karl Popper, he would be investing heavily in groups like the Foundation for Individual Rights in Education, which fights for the (increasingly endangered) free speech rights of college students and professors, irrespective of their political views. He would also be giving large grants to groups like Heterodox Academy, founded by celebrated New York University sociologist Jonathan Haidt, which seeks to promote viewpoint diversity in higher education.

                Instead, Soros has chosen to nurture the future generation of intersectional left-wing activism.

                Soros is a major donor to the American Civil Liberties Union, a once-great and vital organization that, like much else in the era of Donald Trump, appears to be relinquishing any pretense of political neutrality.

                It used to be the American media that called wealthy and powerful people, irrespective of their political ideology, to account. But since Soros appointed himself the foremost individual patron of the institutional left—his “amulet to ward off criticism”—the press abandoned its role.

                1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                  Pluggo won’t read that. And if he did, he wouldn’t understand it.

                2. Trollificus   2 years ago

                  Thanks. That kind of rounds up a (deliberately?) sloppy galaxy of valid criticisms of Soros into a neat constellation.

              6. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                "I condemn all Islamo-fascism – you miserable liar."

                I didn't say anything about "Islamo-fascism", you deceitful fuck.

                In the example I gave, the three University presidents who are unwilling to repudiate calls for genocide are all "secular humanists" just like you.

                Incidentally, Mussolini, Stalin, Mao, and Martin Bormann were all secular humanists too. I hope to fuck that isn't your long game but I suspect it probably is.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  His overlord, Soros, doesn't condemn Islamo-fascism.

                  From the article above,

                  As for Islamic extremism, Soros saw a moral equivalence between the actions of groups like al-Qaeda and the democratic societies defending themselves against their depredations. “We abhor terrorists, because they kill innocent people for political goals,” he told Newsweek in 2006. “But by waging war on terror we are doing the same thing.”

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Man he sounds a lot like Kissinger.

                2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

                  Say what you will about Pluggo/Shrike, (you’ll notice I’ll never soil my hands with the asshole,) but none of those horrible Totalitarians you mentioned were Secular Humanists and none were signatories of any of the Secular Humanist Manifestos, the second of which was explicitly Anti-Totalitarian.

                  I can’t speak for how the three University Presidents stand on Secular Humanism, but there is nothing in either Secularism or Humanism or Secular Humanism that would even vaguely support Antisemitism or specifically Jew-Hatred of any kind. Paul Kurtz, Thomas Szasz, Sherwin Wine, and many other Secular Humanists were and are Jewish and friendly to Israel.

                  Start again.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    none of those horrible Totalitarians you mentioned were Secular Humanists

                    The fuck they weren't. What would you call them Encog?
                    Secular humanism posits that human beings are capable of being ethical and moral without religion or belief in a deity. Something every single one of them wrote and believed.

                    and none were signatories of any of the Secular Humanist Manifestos

                    Neither are you or Shrike. Furthermore Charlemagne and Richard the Lionhearted didn't sign the Bible, and Tamerlane didn't sign the Koran.
                    That may be one of the dumbest qualifiers I've ever read.

                    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                      I call Twentieth Century Totalitarians mass-murdering, slaving assholes, not Secular Humanists. Nor did they, in word or deed, identify as Secular Humanists.

                      If you actually read the Secular Humanist Manifestos you would see that Secular Humanism values free inquiry, civilizational progress, and political, social, and (among Libertarians) economic freedom. Twentieth Century mass-murdering, slaver assholes valued none of those things.

                      Signatures on texts are not necessary, of course, but they are one sufficient indicator of what people think and what they want to do.

                      Deeds, of course, are more important than any words and Charlemagne, King Richard, and Tamerlane were predecessors for Twentieth Century mass-murdering, slaver assholes.

                      Again, start again.

                  2. Uilleam   2 years ago (edited)

                    Secular humanism is by definition totalitarian. It is doing what’s best for humanity, i.e. you have to break a few eggs to make an omelet. Secular humanism does not value the individual.

                    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                      As with Mother's Lament above, read the Manifestos.

                      Humans are individual beings and "societies" or "collectives" do not exist outside of or opposed to the Individual. So to be Humanist is to value the Individual, something, I might add, religions have not done well at all.

              7. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

                You’re low in the Chester the Molester camp of pedophiles too.

              8. Trollificus   2 years ago

                I'm curious. If you self-identified "secular humanists" truly associate with vile scumbags like Soros, Schwab, Yuval Noah Harari, Freedland (and Trudeau if there weren't some intellectual qualifications required), what does your long game "win" actually look like?

                Besides, I suspect, the feature of having people like yourself being in charge?

            2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

              I never tell Misek to fuck off either. I don't engage with him at all. I roll my eyes and scroll past. His whole purpose in coming here and saying that shit is to start an argument, it feeds the same weird impulse of most internet trolls-to be reaffirmed by acknowledgment, by people recognizing that they exist.

              1. Minadin   2 years ago

                I enjoy poking that weasel occasionally. Mostly ignore.

              2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

                I fully understand that approach too with a whole beehive of Miseks like Stormfront.

                What riled me was seeing Misek post on an ostensibly Libertarian comment section for a couple of years before joining here and the sometimes lame response.

                I simply couldn’t let him besmirch the Libertarian philosophical brand like that without response.

                There is another like Misek and Nardz named Ponce who, at least years ago, made the rounds of Libertarian and Survivalist/Prepper Forums. He claimed to be from Cuba and would litter up every place he went with racist, Antisemitic bullshit.

                Ponce may still be around, but I won’t look for him. Let him exert his energy coming here and face the full wrath instead.

          3. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Bill doesn't believe in Anti Klaus? That means he will get something for Xmas but won't be happy about it.

  3. JesseAz   2 years ago

    “If you have social media that is dominated by algorithms that pull people down these rabbit holes that are a bit like pitcher plants, these algorithms, they are the digital equivalent of AR-15s,” Gore stated. “They ought to be banned, they really ought to be banned. It’s an abuse of the public forum.”

    https://scnr.com/article/al-gore-says-social-media-algorithms-are-the-digital-equivalent-of-ar-15s-and-should-be-banned_ae3ef155943c11ee9c930242ac1c0002

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Al gore once again shows his mental weakness

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        And his totalitarian urges.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          But, Larry, he's here to fight for you!
          🙂
          😉

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      AR-15s are legal in the United States. Maybe Gore is fantasizing about 15-minute cities or some other dystopia.

      1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

        Wait till they realize AR-10's exist.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Just need to convince the totalitarians that an AR-10 has a maximum 10-round clip per the name.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          And wait till somebody floats the AR-7 their way.
          🙂
          😉

          1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

            It wouldn't survive.

            1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

              What Mother Nature couldn't sink, Al Gore and the gun control freaks will.

              If for no other reason. AR-7s may mysteriously aquire concrete in their bouyant stocks before a "fishing expedition."
              🙂
              😉

        3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          My AR goes all the way to 11.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Pluggo prefers his 8 or under.

        4. Minadin   2 years ago

          AR-10 is what that shooter in Maine used, and the press continued to call it an 'AR-15', throughout that news cycle. I even heard one call it a 'high caliber AR-15'.

          I know they almost never know what they are talking about, but sometimes it's more obvious than others.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

            I even heard one call it a ‘high caliber AR-15’.

            Actually, with the specific rifle, it’s a sort of “An El Camino is a car made to look like a truck.” vs. “a truck made to look like a car.” situation. The SFAR was specifically designed to take the 7.62/.308 round typically a hallmark of the AR-10 platform and fit it into a smaller, lighter receiver patterned more after the AR-15.

            1. Minadin   2 years ago

              Did he use a SFAR? I had read that it was an AR-10. Either way:

              Yes they are visually similar. But it's improper to call a weapon chambered in .308 an 'AR-15'. Ruger doesn't.

              1. mad.casual   2 years ago

                Yes they are visually similar. But it’s improper to call a weapon chambered in .308 an ‘AR-15’. Ruger doesn’t.

                Except, per the El Camino, they're more than just visually similar and, if you want to get really technical, it would be more wrong to confuse the SFAR with with either one than the two Armalite Rifles with each other. Personally, if I can get* AR-15s chambered for .50 Beowolf and PRC/Creedmore-style cartridges that are actually higher caliber or smaller than .308 but perform on par with the .308 (and are still bigger than 5.56). The distinction between "high caliber AR-15" and "AR-15-size .308" or whatever, is rather moot to me.

                *All of the above being secondary to the fact that, getting technical in a different sense, I can't have any of the above because "Gov. Pritzker won't 'let' me."

        5. R Mac   2 years ago

          Assault rifle that shoots 10 magazines at a time?

          1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

            Kills 10 people with each bullet, of course.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        Ban rabbit holes! Ban digital assault pitcher plants!

      3. Trollificus   2 years ago

        Maybe we should ban AR-300s!!!
        20 times as effective as banning AR-15s, eh?

    3. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      This really needs to be a response to your prior thread about how ignorant liberals are.

    4. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      "these algorithms, they are the digital equivalent of AR-15s"

      Do you promise? I might actually sign up for FB now.

      1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        So, less likely to be used in murders than knives or blunt objects?

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Or even just empty hands and feet.

      2. Chumby   2 years ago

        Al Gore-ithm should have thought of this before he invented the internet.

        1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

          Oof. That's a stretch.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Damn! You beat me to it...Now I'm scared I'm getting as slow and demented as Biden!
          🙂
          😉

          1. Trollificus   2 years ago

            I'm not scared!! Back in the deca...uh, year when Biden was just a polygagaristic Congress uh...they/them from one o' those corrupt jig-saw puzzle piece Least Coasts states, I told him something he still unmisremembers to this day: "Arflushalrefm p'kleptic nernfrgen."

    5. Zeb   2 years ago

      Nonsense. AR-15s actually do something I want them to do.

    6. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

      Hilarious in a number of levels.

    7. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Well, Al Gore should know. The Internet is all his fault. Just ask him.
      🙂
      😉

      Al Gore on Creating the Internet (Though not a misquote, Gaslighting notwithstanding)
      https://youtu.be/pTG_6ypYSS4?si=pBh0ZRsi7w1BGC3g

  4. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/QuetzalPhoenix/status/1732381797504180437?t=lC2D0QVYYN_0cwtHLtIzCg&s=19

    Reminder that all justification for mass migration can be summarized with the word "revenge"

    Immigration doesn't help the west, that was never the point and it never will be.

    It is just revenge.

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      I recall the days when Montezuma’s revenge was the worst unwanted uncontrollable flow.

      1. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

        come on ice cream

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          More like come on ice water pops. That's what would get Montezuma riled.
          🙂
          😉

    2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      I'm now wondering against whom I am supposed to be taking "revenge" over here in Eu-rope...

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        The Rotterham assholes would probably be a good start.

  5. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Americans continue to pull from retirement accounts to pay for spittin tobaccy.

    https://scnr.com/article/more-americans-pull-from-retirement-savings-as-economy-worsens_625cafe892c811ee9c930242ac1c0002

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Well, they wouldn't have to do that if we had more of those sweet, sweet trillion dollar stimulus hand-outs.

      1. Trollificus   2 years ago

        You'd HAVE some o' those sweet, sweet, buildin' back better bucks if you were associated with the political activities of the DNC or client orgs.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago (edited)

      They should just be thankful that most Americans don’t have retirement accounts. If we could all withdraw from them, the impact on inflation would be severe.

  6. Chumby   2 years ago

    Students running their emotional mouths. Dog bites man story.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      That's why for millennia many cultures have sent those idiotic, annoying young people away on vision quests, pilgrimages, missions, wilderness self-discoveries, etc. Instead we put them on center stage as founts of wisdom.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        You forgot wars.

        1. Trollificus   2 years ago

          +1, I Was Gonna Say That Award.

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago


    Greg Price
    @greg_price11
    National Women's Law Center President Fatima Goss Graves, the liberal witness at the Title IX hearing, says that female athletes should "learn to lose gracefully" to biological men.
    (Video)
    https://twitter.com/greg_price11/status/1732142697425572018

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      What will Fatima say when the National Women's Law Center's President is a tranny?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Who pins her to the wall in the "ladies" bathroom.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Transjenner athletes.

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Her husband is part of prosecuting 1/6 protesters. But there’s no such thing as the deep state.

    3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      And should Black college applicants "learn to lose gracefully" to Asians and Jews?

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        "That's different!" (every democrat ever)

        1. Trollificus   2 years ago

          Nice summary of the beginning, end and entire middle of woke argumentation.

          Well, except for the gaslighting and argumentum ad asseritur.

      2. mad.casual   2 years ago

        That sentence ended in a different place than where I expected.
        Some of the Africans sold as slaves were POWs from tribal conflicts within Africa. Getting sold as a slave was taking the loss gracefully.

        Also, the double backhand of refuting biology when it comes to women as men but acknowledging the biology that women are going to lose and dismissing it as though it's all a part of Mother Nature's plan is pitch-perfect female reasoning.

        "When life gives you a burning cross on your front lawn, learn to roast marshmallows." - Fatima Goss Graves

  8. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/ImMeme0/status/1732385213517349363?t=cfJsCNE2-Mr7qz2adk02KA&s=19

    While you’re struggling to put food on the table illegals are being rewarded with $5,000 Gift Card for breaking the law paid by your tax dollars.

    Only in Biden’s America!

    [Video]

    1. Chumby   2 years ago

      The plaque at the Statue of Liberty endorses this.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        The plaque at the Statue of Liberty was written by a Frenchman.

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          Don’t think France wants the layabouts either.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Free housing, free phones, free legal representation, free food, free medical care, free shopping…

      But they all just want to work.

      1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        They want to work illegally. Much more lucrative than working "on the books".

    3. Chinny Chin Chin   2 years ago

      Because you're about as reliably honest on immigration as the NYTimes is on Trump... why should I believe some guy in a dumb hat?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Intentional ignorance is your favorite type of ignorance.

      2. R Mac   2 years ago

        Don’t worry, nobody gives a shit what you believe.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          This is a true statement.

    4. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago (edited)

      “When these folks come across and they’re processed, they are being given a cell phone, a plane ticket to wherever they want to go in this country, so probably to a community near you and a $5,000 Visa card. So while this Christmas season, you’re struggling to keep your lights on, while you’re struggling to pay your rent, put Christmas presents under the tree for your kids. We have our government giving people that came into this country illegally $5,000 gift cards. That’s the truth, folks. God Bless.”

      No fact checks so far that I can find, but it’s also being repeated on the Gateway Pundit (home of “The Dumbest Man on the Internet”), so it’s fairly safe to say that it’s 100% false.

      1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        Based on the fact that you don't like the story, you're calling it false with zero evidence. How much more of a caricature can you be?

      2. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

        This wouldn't have surprised me if it were true. However, when I went through the tweet comments, someone pointed out that this came from a satire article on Citizenjournals.org, which is a parody news site. I looked up the article and it was written by a parody ChatGPT. So it's probably not true.

        On the other hand, it has been documented by real news sources that the planes and busses to destinations in the interior of the US is happening.

        1. windycityattorney   2 years ago

          Yes, the governors of Texas and Florida love spending money on bus tickets and plane rides for migrants. The FL gov is so generous he even pays migrants in Texas to fly somewhere else.

          Still no word on when Florida man is going to fly Cubans back to Cuba.

          1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

            So you have a problem with state governors doing that in a small scale, but no problem with our federal government doing it on a major scale?

          2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

            I’m betting the price the pay for the plane tickets are less than it would cost them to house then and provide services. So, they’re spending a little money to save a shit ton of money. Ask NYC and Chicago how much it costs to take care of the illegal aliens. And they don't have nearly the same number that Texas has.

          3. JesseAz   2 years ago

            NYC is paying 170 a night for each hotel for immigrants. A bus ticket is 1 to 200. Did you learn math in law school before dropping out?

  9. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "After coming under fire for these beliefs, Hooven was placed under investigation by university administrators, ultimately taking a long leave of absence."

    This uppity broad needs a major dose of mansplaining. Five minutes with Scott Shackford will fix her.

    #TransWomenAreWomen

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Calling for actual genocide is free expression. Misgendering someone is literal genocide.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Don't you know how devastating it can feel to cross-dress and then have your delusion challenged in public? Haven't you ever been 3 years old?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          When I was five, my fantasy world was crushed when adults informed me that no matter how much cosplaying, I was not a pirate. That was arrrrrguably the worst moment of my childhood.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            Now liberal parents accept you seeking out their booty.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              Avoid the moms with a sunken chest.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Get them hooked on DEI.

                1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

                  Yo, Ho, Ho!
                  🙂
                  😉

                  1. Trollificus   2 years ago

                    These are bad pirate references. Stop parroting them.

  10. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AurelianofRome/status/1732376407785738274?t=mgWrmGCR9toID9KeRFk8OQ&s=19

    [Video]

  11. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12830501/Donald-Trump-REFUSES-rule-DICTATOR-Tells-Sean-Hannity-revenge-enemies-Day-One-dodging-question-abusing-law-people.html

    Donald Trump REFUSES to rule out being 'a DICTATOR': Tells Sean Hannity he may get revenge on his enemies on 'Day One' - after dodging question about abusing the law to 'go after people'

    Why is this as surprising as hearing thunder after seeing lightning?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      More outrage from you for what may happen while you cheer on what is happening. Makes sense.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        You really need to take some medication for those voices in your head, because I'm not cheering for anything.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Yes sarc. It is me posting your prior statements word for word that is made up. Not your alcohol induced amnesia and lies that is made up.

          Keep going with this. Youre doing great.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            I'm serious. You flail against things no one says and then attack them as people when they point it out.

            That's some serious mental illness. Get help.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Yes sarc. Just like when you claimed i lied about something you said 24 hours earlier.

              https://reason.com/2023/11/06/blinkens-mission-impossible/?comments=true#comment-10306317

              It is always other people. You have no agency. Nothing you said in the past is real. You were hacked. It was Tulpa. Youre not responsible.

              Go with that. Working great for you.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Dude, you're beyond dense. I never said I was hacked. That would mean someone getting my password. You claim to be a computer expert, so you should know this. And I was impersonated, for a long time.

                But you of course deny this because your narrative is more important than the truth.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  Yes. It was the dozens of people here who remember laughing at you claiming you were hacked over the weekend who are wrong. You never said it. That was Tulpa.

                  Go with it. This is working out great for you.

                  Also no response as to how you lied and evidence shows it. Deny deny deny. Ignore ignore ignore. Just continue on.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    You're head is made of osmium.

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  This is why we save shit, Sarcasmic.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    You save shit because you don't know what hacked means and you know I was impersonated for a long time?

                    1. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Iirc, White Mike claimed this too.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Oh yes, the Tulpa excuse. Every time one of you guys gets caught like this, it’s always Tulpa. I’m beginning to think Tulpa is this magical hacker being who can magically hack anyone’s account at any time to make it say whatever Tulpa wants.

                      Personally, I’d rather go Occam and claim this type of Tulpa doesn’t exist and people just don’t want to take personal responsibility for their words, but maybe that’s just me. You do you.

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      It’s what’s not said that’s important, right?

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        According to the morons in the comments that you look up to, yes.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Isn't it too early in the morning to start victim signaling?

          1. Randy Sax   2 years ago

            Can't victim signal all day if you don't start in the morning.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Fair.

            2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Hey, it's whine-o'clock somewhere.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                When I point out how the morons in these comments believe what people don't say negates what they do say I'm whining, but when they whine and cry and cry some more about how unfairly poor, poor Trump and their poor, poor Republican party is being treated, they're not?

                Sure buddy, whatever you say.

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  Fuck off and die, slimy pile of lying lefty shit.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Who do you plan to murder first?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Isn't this where you improperly use tu quoque on yourself?

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Know what's not going to be said by any Trump supporters in the comments? "I sure hope Trump doesn't become a dictator." No one will say that.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Intelligent people saw 4 years if trump not being a dictator so don't bother with the false leftist narratives you seemingly embrace.

          There is no difference from your cries this morning than Cheney (apparently a hero of yours) on Maddow over the weekend or the Atlantic freak out this week.

          It is always amusing you claim to not be a leftist or a neocon yet time after time we see you post their narratives within days of them making the narratives. No inspection. Just blind acceptance and propagation.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            As usual you prove me to be correct.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              I believe you to be so pathological and ignorant that you believe this to be true.

              It is why you and Jeff are such great buddies while also being pariahs as the only 2 true libertarians here.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                You proved me correct by not saying you don't want Trump as a dictator. According to you that's the same as saying you want him as a dictator.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  What i actually said is right above you. He wasn't a dictator in any manner for the 4 years he was already president. He also was pretty much a federalist during Covid.

                  I rely on facts, not narratives. Try it out some time.

                  If he actually acts as a dictator I will call it out. Like I call Biden acting as one with weaponization of the state, something you refuse to do and actively cheer on. That's the difference between us.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    I rely on facts, not narratives.

                    That's why you lie about what people say so it can fit into the narrative. Sure.

                    If he actually acts as a dictator I will call it out.

                    Like when you called him out for commanding GM to make ventilators? I didn't see you or any of your fellow Republican sycophants screaming "Fascist!" like they would have if a Democrat did the same thing. So I call that a lie.

                    Like I call Biden acting as one with weaponization of the state, something you refuse to do and actively cheer on.

                    I've said on numerous occasions (on each occasion you lie and claim it the first time I said it) that the precedent set by weaponizing the legal system against outgoing administrations is going to turn this country into a third world shithole. That's not cheering. Meanwhile you defend the idea of Trump doing the same thing by saying two wrongs make a right.

                    No, all you care about is the hard-right narrative which you'll say and do anything to promote, while I have no partisan blinders. That's the difference between us.

                    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                      Have you called out Obama or Biden for using the legally-passed and Supreme Court-approved Defense Production Act (or whatever it's called)?

                      Dictators act illegally. Trump acted legally. Biden acted illegally.

                      But guess which one you call out as a dictator.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Dictators don't act illegally. Whatever gave you that idea? Dictators issue commands with the power of law, as opposed to going through the legislative process. And right now there's enough power accumulated in the executive branch thanks to Congress delegating it away that a president can, through executive orders, issue commands with the power of law.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Have you called out Obama or Biden for using the legally-passed and Supreme Court-approved Defense Production Act (or whatever it’s called)?

                      No, I only pointed it out when Trump supporters used it as an example of Biden being a fascist while hypocritically being silent about Trump doing the same thing.

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Lol. Sarc was literally the first to bring up DPA as an attack on trump then cried when I brought forth Bidens current and continuing use of it.

                      Fucking hilarious how much he misremembers.

                      And no sarc doesn't ever call put Biden since Biden "recognizes the constitution."

                    5. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                      Oh My God. You actually said ... nothing.

                      Shocked, I am.

                    6. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Yeah, there's a lot of things I say nothing about. You know, all those things on which I supposedly hold leftist views. The things where the liars and morons create a narrative about what I believe based upon what I didn't say, then call me a liar when I disagree with the voices in their heads.

        2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

          Trump spent four years trying to find legal ways to build his wall.

          Biden tried to make taxpayers pay for $400B of student loans even after he said it was unconstitutional, and even after his advisors told him it was unconstitutional.

          Obama said if Congress wouldn't so what he wanted, he would do it with executive orders.

          Which one was the dictator?

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            If I cared to I could find a dozen websites listing executive orders by Trump and calling him a dictator. And by the way I was very critical of Obama and his executive orders at the time, and called a fascist by Democrats for it.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Cite? And why did you stop with Biden? Lol.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Because I stopped filling my head with the talk radio bullshit your mind is full of, after finally coming to the realization that they're all Republican shills with no principles at all. So as a result it wasn't on my mind.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  So youre saying Biden doesn't do it? That these incidents aren't in major papers? It is all right wing lies? Lol.

                  Thats a lot of justification for defending the left. Because people you hate something you have to ignore it. Lol.

                2. R Mac   2 years ago

                  The student loan forgiveness was talk radio bullshit? That’s your position?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Starting to make me wish I actually listened to talk radio.

    3. Agammamon   2 years ago

      So . . . Trump isn't supposed to do what Obama and Biden have been doing?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        It is only a dictatorship if Trump talks about government weaponization. Not if the left or deep state already weaponized it.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

          That obviously means you want Trump to be a dictator and lynch his enemies upon entering office. You want this country to be a third world shithole, just so you can see harm done to people you hate. You are what’s wrong with this country.

          The Stasi in East Germany had no trouble finding recruits and snitches, because it gave otherwise powerless people the power to harm people they hated. You would have been a recruit or a snitch for sure.

          1. Agammamon   2 years ago

            Does it 'obviously mean that'?

          2. Agammamon   2 years ago

            "The Stasi in East Germany had no trouble finding recruits and snitches, because it gave otherwise powerless people the power to harm people they hated. "

            Is this why you support the Democrats? Looking for some power over other people so you can 'get revenge'?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              What makes you think I support Democrats? I despise both political parties. Democrats think I'm a Republican because I support people having the freedom to buy and sell what they want with whomever they want with their own money, and Republicans think I'm a Democrat because I don't give a shit about what people do in private as long as they don't hurt anyone else. Both parties are full of narrow-minded idiots.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                You claim Joe recognizes the constitution while ignoring actions.

                You mock victims of DoJ abuses.

                You constantly throw shit at conservatives in any thread critical of the left instead of criticizing them.

                Even this morning you focus on a hypothetical the left and dems started last week instead of current actions.

                You called the guy who created two of the most intrusive federal departments into Americans lives the most libertarian yesterday.

                I can go on and on.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  You're incapable of telling the truth about anything.

                  I said that Joe once said that the Constitution wouldn't let him do that, whatever that was, while Trump said the Constitution gives him the power to do whatever he wants. I didn't say anything about actions because I was talking about words. So as always you lie.

                  I don't mock the people going to prison over J6. I mock people like you who say that those people didn't do anything wrong because rioters didn't pay for their crimes. So as always you lie.

                  I could continue, but you're not worth the effort.

                  1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                    Always with the "not worth the effort" to document your claims, but always worth the effort of making the claims, over and over and over again.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Funny how you call me the bad guy for defending myself against lies, but you never call out the actual liars.

                    2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

                      I called out you, an actual liar. So have plenty of others called out you, an actual liar.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      A) you are the bad guy
                      B) your claims are false and an example is above. Your defend against word for word posts you've made that you claim are lies
                      C) your post comment rationalizations of what you said instead of what you said is you in denial.
                      D) you demanded evidence of your past statements then cry when they are provided while continuing to lie about them
                      E) you are not mocking posters by using terms like Saint Babbitt or laughing at non violent protestors facing 20 years or 5 years for feet on the desk.

                      I could go on and on with reality while you wrap yourself under pathological delusion.

                    4. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I called out you, an actual liar. So have plenty of others called out you, an actual liar.

                      Riiiight. Because disagreeing with the narrative said about me is lying.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      You guys infer things from what I say that exist only in your minds, and then call me a liar when I disagree with the voices in your heads.

                      That's fucking mental.

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Yes. The dozens of people who read your posts word for word are wrong.

                      A) youre full of shit (likely)
                      B) you're incapable of coherent thought (also likely)

                  2. Agammamon   2 years ago

                    Biden once said the Constitution doesn't allow him to do that - and he then went and did it anyway under the theory that it would take the courts time to stop him so he could ruin some lives in the interim.

                    There's your support for the Democrats.

                    Trump never said the Constitution allows him to do anything.

                    There's your hate for anyone not a Democrat.

                  3. Agammamon   2 years ago (edited)

                    And you absolutely mocked the people going to jail for J6.

                    You might not remember it because . . . well, you know.

                    Also, you haven't defended yourself here - you just said it wasn't worth the effort.

                  4. DesigNate   2 years ago

                    Your actual quote was “Joe actually recognizes the Constitution, unlike Trump.”

                    Which was, and still is, just dead ass fucking wrong.

                    If you don’t want people to shit on you, maybe stop with your “sarcasm” that only ever pokes fun at the right and non-leftist posters here, or at least try to be a little more even handed.

                    (Even handedness is why the Daily Show got less and less funny the longer it’s stayed on and why South Park is still going strong.)

              2. Agammamon   2 years ago

                Everything you've written here.

          3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

            "That obviously means you want Trump to be a dictator and lynch his enemies upon entering office. You want this country to be a third world shithole, just so you can see harm done to people you hate."

            Sarc, most skilled logician of this comment board - is the above a strawman or no?

          4. Super Scary   2 years ago

            "The Stasi in East Germany had no trouble finding recruits and snitches, because it gave otherwise powerless people the power to harm people they hated. You would have been a recruit or a snitch for sure."

            We saw these people during the lockdowns and masking mandates. Voluntary tattletales and lockstep followers of government orders.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Yup. People suck. And that's not a partisan thing.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Both sides! Always to defend the left.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Yeah, saying "People suck" is defending the left. The fuck is wrong with you?

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    It's not the phrase, it's what it's in response to.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      So saying that people suck for tattling on people who didn't wear masks is defending the left?

                      How many times were you dropped on your head as a child?

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      And that’s not a partisan thing.

                      Yet, sarc, it was a partisan thing. How easily one forgets.

                  2. Agammamon   2 years ago (edited)

                    Well, it wasn’t ‘the right’ that was trying to get people jailed for not wearing a mask.

                    So I know who sucks less.

                    "So saying that people suck for tattling on people who didn’t wear masks is defending the left?"

                    It absolutely is. Because you're trying to make an equivocation between the horrible things the Left has done and . . . the nothing the right has.

                    Wasn't the right that mandated vaccines under threat of locking you up in cages. Wasn't the right that mandated masks even after it was clear it didn't work. Wasn't the right that closed businesses. Wasn't the right that then wanted businesses to open up to cater to the elite of the Left (ie, Whitmer and Pelosi).

                    The whole covid period was the left sucking so hard and the right just . . . not.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Cmon. Texas and Florida both issued orders making it illegal to force masks and vaccinations.

                      So both are terrible.

                      Allowing individuals to choose is a terrible precedent.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        Does that make it right? Do you want to live in a country where every incoming administration puts the previous one on trial? Maybe you do, but I don't. The next step after that is every former president having to leave the country out of fear of assassination by the newly elected one. That's how third world shitholes work, and I'd rather not live in one.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          No, but it wold be refreshing to hear you call out those crimes when the responsible parties have a (D) tag.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

            Like what? I don’t follow partisan news like most people here, so I’m not continually outraged by whatever the talking heads want people to be emotional about. If I don’t talk about something it’s because I don’t know about it or I don’t care.
            Generally when I chime in it’s not because I’m on either side, but because someone is railing against a red herring or a strawman. Pointing out that someone is making a faulty argument doesn’t equal supporting whatever that person was arguing against, no matter how much JesseAz and the other morons believe it to be true.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Threads you've been in and supported state abuse.

              Mackey meme.
              Rittenhouse trial.
              Non violent J6 protestors.
              Every trump charge and impeachment.
              FACE act violations for non violent offenses.
              Defending DoJ non acts against Hunter.

              You've participated and defended the state in each example. But you apparently don't even know those examples exist. Lol.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Man. Forgot the biggest. Censorship.

              2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                As alway you lie to defend your narrative.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Is this just a rhetorical tic of yours? Or again pathalogical?

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    It's me not refuting your lies one by one because there's no point.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Because you can't. Your defense is always what you say you meant to say, not what you actually said. Only one of us posts your past comments. Word. For. Word.

            2. R Mac   2 years ago

              “I don’t follow partisan news like most people here, so I’m not continually outraged by whatever the talking heads want people to be emotional about.”

              This entire thread is in response to you doing this exact thing. Did you already forget that too or are you lying?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Great point. He skipped right over the fact he us blindly pushing the left/neocon narratives.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago (edited)

                  And completely inaccurately. I actually saw the video. Trump made it clear he was referring to closing the border and drilling for oil. That’s what he meant when he said it. But that’s not the leftist narrative that…was just pushed by sarc.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                    Yeah. But we know he didn’t watch the video or do any research before blindly pushing the narrative. It is your fault for not knowing what he would have said if he did.

                    1. R Mac   2 years ago

                      True.

            3. Agammamon   2 years ago

              You say you don't follow partisan news - but you are right there every time someone says Trump did something. You're right there to condemn any Republican the instant you hear about some misconduct or even just a statement you don't like.

              While you never hear anything negative about the DNC.

              Sounds like your news is pretty partisan to me dude.

        2. Super Scary   2 years ago

          "Do you want to live in a country where every incoming administration puts the previous one on trial? "

          We already are. What the hell?

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

            Really? What was the outcome of the Obama criminal trial? Or the Bush criminal trials? Or the Clinton criminal trial? Oh, wait. There weren’t any. This is a first.
            But it won’t be the last, because now every administration is going to do it while their supporters cheer them on claiming it's ok because they last guy did it.

            1. Super Scary   2 years ago

              "What was the outcome of the Obama criminal trial? Or the Bush criminal trials? Or the Clinton criminal trial? Oh, wait. There weren’t any. This is a first."

              " This is a first."

              Right. It's already started.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                And it could end here. But it won't. Trump's supporters won't let it.

                1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

                  The blame belongs to those who dragged us across the line.

                  The one person that started this was Michael McCrum, who prosecuted Rick Perry for abuse of power.

                2. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Look at sarc blaming republicans for what democrats are doing. Really proving our point for us sarc, thanks.

                3. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                  You really do go out of your way to blame Trump.

                  Dems break all tradition and use "novel legal interpretations" to prosecute Trump, and you are railing about how bad Trump is for not declaring he won't do the same? Remember, you always say that not decrying something isn't the same as supporting the opposite.

                  1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                    I read the article on Sunday, and it basically was 'we're afraid Trump will use the same tactics we've used against him'.

                    1. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

                      I agree. I was just pointing out Sarc's hypocrisy. He never shuts up (usually when conversing with Jesse) that just because he doesn't call something out, it doesn't mean that he supports it.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              He has gone full retard guys.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                I think that portal was passed long ago.

            3. Agammamon   2 years ago

              What was the outcome of the Trump 'criminal trials' - oh, that's right, there weren't any.

              But any day now the wallz will cloze in.

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            In case you're talking about impeachment, that's a political process not a criminal one that happens while the president is in office. And every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton. The Democrats now set the precedent for criminal proceedings against the outgoing president, and I believe that's now going to happen with every outgoing president. That's not something to cheer about.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

              "And every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton."

              Huh?

              1. Minadin   2 years ago

                Don't you recall the Bush and Obama impeachments?

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                  Does sarc actually think this? Maybe this was tulpa posting as him again, that fucking bastard!

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              I remember the left using these same narratives even as Nancy changed the rules on impeachment. Ahh the memories.

            3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              And every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton.

              Please enlighten us with the George W. Bush and Barack H. Obama impeachments and trials. Somehow, I managed to miss these.

              1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                Stop blaming sarc for tulpa's posts!

              2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                Impeachment papers were filed against both presidents the moment they took office. It has become an American tradition. By the way if you read what I wrote instead of listening to the voices in your head you'll see I didn't claim they were put on trial.

                1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                  "every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton."

                  These are the exact words you wrote above, no head voices required.

                  1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago (edited)

                    Wrong place

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Stop posting his words. You have to post what he means but didn't say!!!!

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                  Another question for you, as the master logician here:

                  From: Every president since clinton was impeached
                  To: impeachment papers were filed

                  is this an example of moving the goal posts or no?

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    Methinks the lad has been drinking again. Dammit.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      I still question if he even lasted a week or used a sober week as proof he is no longer an alcoholic.

                    2. Chumby   2 years ago

                      He said in another thread he is still dry. I am happy for him.

                    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Maybe it's not the alcohol.

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      He has no problems lying about posted statements he had made, do you really think he wouldn't lie about still being sober?

                    5. Chumby   2 years ago

                      Maybe it was Tulpa that consumed that fifth of Jack with tu quoque

                    6. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                      Long term alcohol abuse does do lasting and mostly irreversible brain damage. Could just be alcohol induced dementia by this point.

                3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  There's a radical difference between some fool filing impeachment papers and an actual impeachment. You claimed the following,

                  sarcasmic 52 mins ago

                  In case you’re talking about impeachment, that’s a political process not a criminal one that happens while the president is in office. And every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton. The Democrats now set the precedent for criminal proceedings against the outgoing president, and I believe that’s now going to happen with every outgoing president. That’s not something to cheer about.

                  "And every president has been impeached since Republicans set the precedent with Clinton."

                  This implies there has been an impeachment debate and vote in the House for each of them. Obviously, that was not the case.

                  sarcasmic 13 mins ago (edited)

                  Impeachment papers were filed against both presidents the moment they took office. It has become an American tradition. By the way if you read what I wrote instead of listening to the voices in your head you’ll see I didn’t claim they were put on trial.

                  I read what you wrote, above. There were no extra voices there. You wrote a half-assed comment that implied something else, then covered for it later. That's you, not Tulpa. Do not type something and later pull this crappola of claiming it wasn't what you meant. Type clearly what you mean in the beginning.

              3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                It's the Mandela Effect.

            4. R Mac   2 years ago

              Poor sarc fell off the wagon.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Who won the poll? Think I had 2 weeks because I felt generous at the time.

        3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Did the last trump admin put the previous one on trial?

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            No, but if he wins the next election he will most certainly weaponize the federal government against the Bidens, while his supporters will no doubt cheer him on.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Like you've been doing in every attack against Trump? Do you not see the fucking irony?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                What part of calling the treatment of Trump shameful leads you to believe I'm cheering? Oh yeah, you lie and claim I never said that because it doesn't fit your precious narrative.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  You know we can look up past articles and the comment sections right sarc?

                  Should I start with the sullum articles?

                  1. Chumby   2 years ago

                    He may sullumnly swear it was Tulpa.

                2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                  Sarc, you accuse nearly all the posters here of lying and misrepresenting you. But when people literally cut and paste your exact words, you claim they mean something else (see above today). Who is the liar?

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Everyone but him. He is truly pathalogical.

                    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

                      I wonder if the comments section would be better, or just dry up, if nobody responded to Buttpedo, Cartman, or Sarcaholic. I'm not going to bother actually counting and calculating, but I'd guess at least 25% of any given day's comments are people arguing with a wall, in the form of one of those three dipshits.

                    2. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      Does Cartman = Jeff?

        4. Agammamon   2 years ago

          But you're fine with Biden and Obama doing it.

      3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        That's how Republicans determine right from wrong these days?

        Well, well, well...

    4. R Mac   2 years ago

      He was referring to closing the border and drilling for oil dumbfuck.

  12. JesseAz   2 years ago

    "Israel has designated a number of 'safe zones' to which it says people in Gaza should move to avoid the fighting," per The New York Times, "but many in the enclave cannot access Israel's directions because they have no electricity and poor to nonexistent internet and cellphone service."

    Just last week there was video of dozens of Palestinians using phones to film hostage exchanges. Social media is still lit with Hamas propaganda videos.

    Must be magic.

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      No, just plain old-fashioned anti-semitism within the media, and of course, the Judeocidal beliefs of palestinians.

      Not to worry, Israel will proceed to hunt down Hamas members like the human animals that they are, and kill them. Then expand that Hamas hunt worldwide. There is nothing to negotiate with Hamas membership, aside from the size of the burial shroud they want to be wrapped in when they are killed.

      As for the poor, innocent, downtrodden palestinians....at some level you have to ask: are this rabble even worthy of a state? They want to kill Jews more than having a state.

      Post war, the palestinians will be scattered to the winds.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        The number if prifessors and media denying the rapes from Hamas on 10/7 is reaching Misek levels of denial. They are even now excusing rapes based on proportionality.

        Heidi Matthews
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        Is wartime sexual violence a horrific crime? YES, with no mistake. But sex exceptionalism is also traditionally used to whip up support for entire military campaigns — we see Israel and the U.S. doing this now to justify a prolonged disproportionate air and ground war.

        1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

          That congress-critter Jayapal saying she did not want to argue about the hierarchy of oppression with Dana Bash....I thought: We need to worry about a hierarchy of oppression in order to decide if something is right or wrong? Serious? Jesus lady, you are completely fucked up in the head.

          The sad part: a lot of progs think just like that. Un-fucking-real.

          1. Z Crazy   2 years ago

            What does Jaypal say about the 30 ,000 white girls raped by black males every year?

            I say, "White Girls Matter"!

            1. Nardz   2 years ago

              Who knows, white people aren't important enough to have congressional hearings about academia encouraging genocide for

            2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

              "30 ,000 white girls raped by black males every year?" Um, cite?

      2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Those burial shrouds should be raw pigskins. Stuff a piece of pork in their mouth before sewing skins shut around them, and leaving them out in the desert for a week, before letting dogs eat them.

        1. Trollificus   2 years ago

          What an awful, disrespectful thing to even think about!
          I give it two thumbs up.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      With generators that can run for weeks on 4-5 days of fuel Gaza should be the richest country on earth with such technological geniuses.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        We need Gaza to be free so they can export their cold fusion reactors. All a global collusion to destroy cheap energy like those water combustion engines from the 80s.

        1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

          Sadly this is a conspiracy theory I could see garnering real support and believers.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        And there must be something superhuman about Palestinian bodies if they can drink salt water since October 7th with no kidney shutdown.
        🙂
        😉

    3. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Their phones are down to 25% - that's enough to last them 4-5 weeks, like the hospitals;)

      Also, do these reporters not know that people can talk to each other in person? That you can follow the crowd?

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Be fair. Any young American college grad has no idea how to communicate without a phone.

  13. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

    Since our last contract, Post journalists have covered two wars, an insurrection, a pandemic, gun violence in America, climate disasters, two presidential campaigns and more," the union writes in a statement.

    Can they virtue signal any harder?

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      I'm torn, do I buy the post as a FUCK YOU to these dishonest writers or not buy the Post and risk my fuck you for their prior writing being seen as support? Can I get a nuke from ornit to take them all out?

      1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        We buy the Sunday Post for the comics and the online access, and so I can harass the far Left idiots who post comments there.

        1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

          I wonder what the commenters say.

        2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          I can cut your needs in half.
          gocomics.com

          Pick and choose what comics you want emailed to you daily for like $15 a year.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      At least they are more humble than NYT journalists, who claim to have created those events. (At least during internal conversations.)

  14. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Scenes from New York: For decades, The Hole—a tiny, flooded neighborhood that sits on the border between Brooklyn and Queens, off of Conduit Boulevard—has been derelict and neglected. It's served as a graveyard/dumping ground for mobsters, and had a Federation of Black Cowboys outpost, replete with horses. Now, the city plans to make improvements, including possibly hooking up the 12-block neighborhood to the sewage system used by the rest of the five boroughs. "I don't believe the city," one resident told Bloomberg.

    Liz, youre great. But most of us don't give a shit about NYC stories like this while the site ignores major stories and has claimed on the past this was due to "local" news.

    1. Agammamon   2 years ago

      I don't know man - I'm ok with it.

      1. The rest of the content she brings is worth it - not something you can say about some of the other 'associate editors'.

      2. Federation of Black Cowboys! In NYC! Absurd! I love it.

      1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        Ditto. Everything has a price, and if having a real libertarian at the helm is the benefit, and if the price is a touch of humor, it's like saying "ice cream is the price you pay for eating a healthy dinner."

    2. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

      So where exactly did the "too local" jibe originate?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Honestly can't remember the original story. Believe it was KMW.

      2. Square = Circle   2 years ago

        Back around 2016 the mother of longtime commenter sloopyinca was assaulted by the police. He brought the story to Reason to cover, but KMW told him it was "too local." This is essentially what kicked off the "Glibbening" in which a very large percentage of the commentariat-of-old left and started their own site.

        1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

          Thank you for the explanation.

  15. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

    Those three college presidents (Harvard, MIT, UPenn) should be summarily dismissed by their respective Boards of Trustees. They all displayed their collective incompetence. Unreal.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      They are properly representative of the diversity and level of thought at their respective institutions. And politics.

      For instance, by Harvard's own statistics, less than 8% of their student body, and an even lower number of their staff (admin + educators) identify as either 'conservative' or 'very conservative' politically. Nearly 75% identified as left-wing, from 'somewhat liberal' to 'very progressive'.

      https://features.thecrimson.com/2021/freshman-survey/lifestyle-narrative/

      1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

        More on this topic: the amorality of the Ivy League

        https://www.israelnationalnews.com/news/381522

      2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Diversity is what we look like*, not how we think.

        *No MAGA hats allowed

  16. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/JackPosobiec/status/1732375870713577574?t=MuJD1T5uQzILfspUT54iRw&s=19

    Here are Biden and Mayorkas over a decade ago laying out their goal, in their own words, to increase ‘unrelenting, non-stop’ migration from around the world so Caucasians fall to a minority in America

    [Video]

    1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

      Watching a podcast clip from a couple days ago. The guest commented "we should put all white people on an island to reduce their population." He was dead serious.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        To be fair, we could allocate all the continents by color and see how things work out.

        1. Idaho-Bob   2 years ago

          One of the comments was "If you put all of the white people on an island, in five years it will be the best place on earth and all you fuckers will want to live there."

          1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

            It’s called Australia. It works fine until the population becomes woke and starts banning speech and putting people in COVID camps.

        2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          Last time, that worked out with White people ruling the world.

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            Both the continent and the island thing. What else is the UK but a island full of white people? Also, did anyone see the recent "science" that showed that systemic racism resulted in blacks in England dieing from the plague? In the 300 years or so of the most recent outbreak of plague there were something like 18,000 people of African decent living in England. They exhumed one mass grave (e.g. graves of the lowest classes of people" from one outbreak of plague (there were several, one about every 20 years from 1340 until 1620) with about 500 bodies in it and tried to imply the larger sample of skeletons with "African features" (oh and also female) was indicative of systemic racism resulting in more Africans dieing than whites. Since plague was pretty prevalent in all facets of society (especially the first two or three outbreaks) I think this study's findings are likely the result of sampling bias (and 18,000 over 300 years is such a small sample size that nothing can be drawn from it anyhow, that's something like 60 a year, and the first bout of plague killed millions, anywhere from 40-60% of the population of Europe at the time).

      2. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)
  17. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Tomorrow, the guild at The Washington Post is asking readers not to cross the picket line and engage with their products. "Since our last contract, Post journalists have covered two wars, an insurrection, a pandemic, gun violence in America, climate disasters, two presidential campaigns and more," the union writes in a statement.

    Fine. I'll click on WaPo links.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago (edited)

      Apparently, I’ve been unwittingly showing solidarity with tomorrow’s WaPo striking guilders for years.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Same!

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Likewise. I avoid their offline and online crap.

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

        I went there when Volokh moved there. Following since the VC. That is where be picked up all the far leftists pretending to be lawyers and brought them over here. Half the regulars like sarcastro (why do none of then understand sarcasm but name themselves as such) are failed engineers and scientists who got government jobs and push pro state bullshit.

        1. NOYB2   2 years ago

          But, then, so is Volokh.

  18. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Speaking of which: The U.S. is experiencing a cooling of the labor market, per Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

    Guess the 2% of illegals who applied for work permits are shit out of luck and will be forced to continue free hotels, food, phones, etc.

  19. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The New York Times describes Megyn Kelly using the term mask fascists as "stoking the culture war grievances." What term would they prefer?

    Not sure i can take another morning of ignorance from sarc and Jeff.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      How about "mask Marxists?"

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        How about twisted-panty, emotionally-crippled, government narrative-dependent, left-wing tribal mask nannies?

    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      I've been using Maskeraders. Or Masketeers.

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        My personal favorite is 'maskholes'.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Actually, anyone wearing a mask in public is telling the world that they are contagious, but are out in public anyway, just to show their contempt for the general population.

      From the CDC (before the Communist Chinese virus):
      " "If you are sick," the CDC says, "you should wear a facemask when you are around other people (e.g., sharing a room or vehicle) and before you enter a healthcare provider's office." But "if you are NOT sick," it adds, "you do not need to wear a facemask unless you are caring for someone who is sick (and they are not able to wear a facemask)."

  20. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/MyLordBebo/status/1732351266729120245?t=A6mvzMCbgD8vE9eBkm1myg&s=19

    WOW: “The sky in Abu Dhabi was painted in the colors of the Russian flag in honor of the Russian president’s arrival.”

    -> That’s a nice welcome … goes beyond a band at the airport.

    [Link]

  21. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    "self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them"

    The wanton duplicity of this policy in the age of prefered pronouns is bold, even for the marxists. They really do hate asians for blowing up their whole white privilege narrative.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      Ironically, people with Chinese names are apparently free to use Western names with abandon.

      How about everybody is required to appear on the ballot with their legal name only? How about in government and commerce, people pick a sex/gender for their driver's license and public records and then are forced to stick with it? Diagnosed gender-dysphorics get one lifetime change?

  22. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/MikeBenzCyber/status/1732139397267534334?t=4ETBTZNm-xlog1TcJSAjEA&s=19

    This is the 2002 film "Bringing Down A Dictator" about how the U.S. State Dept, CIA, and NGO blob swarm orchestrated a color revolution inside Serbia to regime change Slobodan Milosevic.

    You need to watch it. Your homework is to watch it.

    [Video]

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Free speech is suddenly a major value of college presidents...

    They haven't heard any of the antisemites using wrong pronouns yet.

  24. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...Israeli forces are going house to house, exchanging fire with Hamas all across residential parts of the city.

    This paints an interesting mental picture.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Exchanging fire is a pleasant phrase.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        It is the holiday season.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...including possibly hooking up the 12-block neighborhood to the sewage system used by the rest of the five boroughs.

    Where's it going now??? Jamaica Bay?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Remember, NYC is one of those prosperous cities Artie talks about.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      Apparently, it has been flooded out for a long time. Perhaps they empty their chamber pots into the street?

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them...

    "BUT I IDENTIFY AS A CHINA-MAN!"

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Ahem, China-Person.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        That's not the preferred nomenclature, Dude.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Well, you must admit it's a step up from Chi-knee.
          🙂
          😉

      2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        What about Bowie's China Girl?

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          "She says: 'Oh, baby! Just you shut your mouth!' She says: 'Shhhhhh!'..."
          🙂
          😉

      3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        My favorite newspeak distortion, courtesy of the feminists.
        Take a perfectly good word, say 'chairman'.
        Then declare, for political reasons alone, that because it ends in a three character string usually denoting male (man) it is horribly sexist; ignoring that in English the masculine stands for the neuter.
        Then insist that the simple, easy to pronounce, long in use word, be replaced with the awkward, longer, and now politically charged word 'chairperson'.
        Then ignore that the new and improved politically correct word still ends in a three character string that denotes a male (son).

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Language is patriarchy. Especially Indo-European languages, which generally have gendered words.

        2. Jefferson Paul   2 years ago

          I often hear people use "chair" in place of "chairman" or "chairperson." To me that's even worse.

          Congrats, you are all furniture now.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      No, no, no.

      Gender is the only biological imperative that is permitted to be denied by simple declaration of identity, perhaps some plastic surgery.

      I mean, c'mon...XX vs XY is a WHOLE CHROMOSOMAL difference. Race is just a few genes here and there, which of course makes skin color the most important thing.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        But what if I think I’m turning Japanese? I really think so.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

      As Benny Hill would say: What a road of lubbish and clap!
      🙂
      😉

      1. Krokko   2 years ago

        "How high is a mountain in China?"

        "Yes!"

  27. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...the guild at The Washington Post is asking readers not to cross the picket line and engage with their products.

    Done.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      WAPO reader, are you?

      I won't be crossing their lines because I have no desire to read WAPO in the first place.

      1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        But it’s so funny sometimes, especially when it claims to publish the news.

  28. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The U.S. is experiencing a cooling of the labor market, per Bureau of Labor Statistics data.

    Employers have given up.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      That's OK. "Workers" gave up long ago.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      The robots are quietly taking over.

  29. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Teachers unions did not prioritize the reopening of schools. Does Weingarten have amnesia?

    She's hoping you do.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Does Weingarten have amnesia?

      Certainly at least some brain damage.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Pardon me, but doesn't one actually have to have a brain first before one can be brain-damaged? Strikes me that Weingarten is, and has been, totally brainless.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Is pathological lying an indicator of brain damage?

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            Usually it's due to narcissistic personality disorder.

          2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

            More likely political ambition - - - - - - - - - -

  30. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/AuronMacintyre/status/1732404306895368619?t=O1pMyvEGOadzGxsg0I31gw&s=19

    Prioritizing the needs of the people you were elected to serve is good actually

    If you wouldn’t spend money to build the wall but you would spend money to defend Ukraine you aren’t putting America first

    If you wouldn’t spend money to defend America’s borders but you will send money to protect Israel you aren’t putting America first

    [Link]

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Israel has a pretty sweet wall. Why can't we have one too?

      1. Nardz   2 years ago

        Because Americans aren't worth as much as Israelis.
        Haven't you seen the math?

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          No no, that's Palestinians that's a three for one deal on Israelis. Which is honestly a great deal for the Israelis, since I'd rather have one of those instead of even a hundred Palestinians.

  31. Agammamon   2 years ago

    Oh, Thomas Massie, you fucking moron.

    I get that you oppose foreign adventurism. Cool. I'm onboard there.

    But the support for Israel *isn't* Zionism, moron. Its the same sort of interventionist instinct that has us fucking around with Ukraine, not some special dispensation granted teh juice.

    1. Nardz   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/SenSchumer/status/1732155563356614674?t=nTBeNkGYvynsbjDtwe6YBw&s=19

      Rep. Massie, you’re a sitting Member of Congress.

      This is antisemitic, disgusting, dangerous, and exactly the type of thing I was talking about in my Senate address.

      Take this down.

      [Link]

  32. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The New York Times describes Megyn Kelly using the term mask fascists as "stoking the culture war grievances."

    Apparently they're not trying to frame masking as science anymore.

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      One of the hallmarks of authoritarian governments, fascism in particular, is that people are conditioned to OBEY.

      OBEY! (or else)

      Doesn't matter if the orders make no sense, dissent--even discussion--is not permitted. Those who do not OBEY are punished.

      Also, in fascism, ostensibly privately-run corporations are merely puppet extensions of government, and can be used to help enforce the government's diktats on how the economy and society at large are to be run.

      "Mask fascists" seems appropriate.

    2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      It’s not that she’s stoking the culture war grievances, it’s that she’s stoking the wrong ones. If she’d said something about MAGA racists, that would have been perfectly acceptable.

  33. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1732297766771081506?t=5L4H7hlIVw0nSwAATZs0rA&s=19

    Comprehensive racism study that got instantly buried when it came out:

    White people have the lowest in-group preference and the highest out-group tolerance

    Black people have the highest level of in-group racial bias and lowest out-group tolerance (against white people).

    Hispanics, Asians, and black people all rank white people dead last in their out-group preference.

    [Link]

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      Obviously, White people aren’t racist enough.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        Good racism or bad racism?

    2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      I'd like to see Amerindians how they rank? Growing up, it seemed to me that they were by far some of the most racist people I'd ever met. For that matter, the often didn't even like other Amerindians if they came from a different tribe/Rez.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        I generally got along with the ones here in Albuquerque, but I had also just moved here from Hawaii, so my meter may well have been completely broken by that point.

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          Oh, I get along with them, some of my best friends are Amerindians, but they will also tell you that many are some of the most racist people they've ever met.

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Could be. For me, that crown is held by the Hawaiians, who are the only cultural group I actively despise.

            If I could, I'd go back and leave the Hawaiians completely naive of European influence, because what they truly deserve is the tender mercies of the Imperial Japanese.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              I've heard that about Native Hawaiians, never actually experienced it.

  34. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Chinese President Xi Jinping is looking to seize greater control of the country's financial system.

    If commies know anything it's economies in ruin.

  35. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Everything you've ever wanted to know about deepfakes in porn.

    Ballsdeepfakes.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      It's deepfakes all the way down.

    2. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      This post is useless without pictures.

    3. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      Um, have you ever seen "true" porn? Imagine watching your fat, middle-aged neighbors fucking.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        Sounds flabulous.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Alas, the story was Behind The Green Paywall.

      If porn is deepfaked, will I know it when I see it?

      Well, as the Brits would say, I know what I like!
      🙂
      😉

  36. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    So Norman Lear has died at 101. RIP.

    Thanks for the contribution to modern culture. My first exposure to a pig-ignorant conservative was Archie Bunker. And the two hippy-dippy liberals Meathead and Gloria were perfect foils.

    Well done, sir.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      You do realize Archie Bunker was a caricature?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I was amused that shrike admitted his entire political world view is based on Hollywood caricatures.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        You do realize Archie Bunker was a caricature?

        Fat Rush Limbaugh was too? The two are fucking identical.

        Parody is based on truth.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          You need to get out more.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. That's not a surprise to anyone who reads his constant stream of bullshit.
          But it's becoming obvious that as Misek is too stupid to understand the concepts of "evidence" or "relevance", the concept of "honesty" is simply beyond turd's ken.

        3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Alright, I'll bite.

          How were Archie Bunker and Rush Limbaugh identical aside from you being mad about both?

        4. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

          Take a good, long, hard look at what's going on in the world around you, dickhead.

          What you'll see is that everywhere you look, from this comment section, to Argentina, to the Netherlands and beyond, is that more and more people all over the world are deciding that they've just about had enough of you and the other assholes like you.

          Why don't you fucking disappear, absolutely no one likes you, probably not even your own mother.

      3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago (edited)

        That is a pity about Norman Lear. Although Norman Lear was a Lefty, he was good at caricaturing his own side through Meathead Mike, George Jefferson, and Maude. Ol’ Maudie embodied the double standard of the “strong, independent woman what don’t need no man” who was a mental basket-case. And she had Woke zeal about her when she said to her detractors: “God will get you for that!”

        Also, I loved Fred Sanford. He was an Urban Survivalist Entrepreneur, with his junkyard profiting from society’s refuse, his case of liquor for barter, his hidden drawer for his cash, and you know he had to have been a bad Mofo to have survived and thrived in Watts during the Sixties and Seventies. You can just see him on the rooftop with a water-cooled World War One machine gun turret picking off the rioting rabble!
        🙂
        😉

        And while Fred was a believer in the Supernatural and the Afterlife, especially when he had his many “heart attacks,” Mr. Sanford also took no shit from Holy-Rolling fanatics like Aunt Esther and gave the proper response that Theocratic Priests, Reverends, Mullahs, Imams, and Ayatollahs deserve today:

        https://youtu.be/OqEo0eY8IFk?si=c5l-ekn6jgbSF2N9
        🙂
        😉
        Little known to many, there was also a short-lived series called simply Sanford where Lamont moved to Alaska to work drilling for oil. Obviously not the “big dummy” after all.

        Kindest thoughts to Norman Lear and his many entertaining creations! They live forever on AntennaTV and in the Streamer-verse!

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Maybe because it was a different culture from before I was born, but I never "got" any of those shows. What I watched was always so posturing and preachy.

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Like the MST3K song says: "Repeat to yourself: 'It's just a show. I should really just relax.'"
            🙂
            😉

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

      Meathead was a sanctiminonious, shrill, unlikeable character. Archie, for all his foibles, was actually the more human, well developed and sympathetic character.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Meathead remains an asshole.

        1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

          Yeah he got into character and never got out.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        And, unlike today's Wokeism, at least Norman Lear in his creation and production, acknowledged the capacity to change and grow, as Archie Bunker did over the years between All in the Family and Archie Bunker's Place, when he took on a Jewish business partner Murray, foster a little Jewish girl Stephanie, and hired a black housekeeper, Ellen.

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "My first exposure to a pig-ignorant conservative was Archie Bunker."

      Cripes, how old are you?

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        I get older, they stay the same age.

        - Pluggo

  37. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    '"We embrace a commitment to free expression, even of views that are objectionable, offensive, hateful," responded Gay.'

    "Unless those views come from nasty, far-right, MAGA Trumpsters, which we have scientifically proven are clones of Hitler. We can detect these using any statements that contradict (in real or imaginary words) the feelings of a typical multi-ethnic trans student."

  38. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    '"Because of the city's robust Chinese-speaking population, ballots [for local elections in San Francisco] are in both English and Chinese, which has led many non-Chinese candidates to adopt a Chinese name in an effort to appeal to monolingual Chinese voters," reports The San Francisco Standard. But now, the board of elections is cracking down on this, so "self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them" or "have been using the names for at least two years."'

    Does this also apply to their Chinese genders?

  39. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EPoe187/status/1732412668886347979?t=vEpKSqBrW_1kkhJRm1r8cA&s=19

    An anti-white ideology has long prevailed on college campuses, which also practice literal and explicit racism against white people in admissions. That should have been a scandal long ago.

    Things many people learn or reinforce in college classes:

    Capitalism is bad
    The West is bad
    Europeans are uniquely bad
    All black failures are caused by white people
    Stereotypes stultify minorities
    Men hold down women
    Colonialism was purely evil
    Poverty is caused by the rich

    I don't know how much any of this changes the minds of our youth--but I do know that if campuses were as conservative tomorrow as they are progressive today, the left would denounce them as fascist factories of bigotry and hate.

  40. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Even Jack Smith goes too far for a judge.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/judge-denies-jack-smiths-request-conceal-documents-trump-classified-materials-case

    A federal judge has denied special counsel Jack Smith's request to keep some documents hidden in former President Donald Trump's classified documents case.

    Judge Aileen Cannon, who's overseeing the trial in former President Donald Trump's classified documents case, has rejected a motion by special counsel Jack Smith to keep some documents hidden from President Trump's defense.

    In an order signed on Dec. 4, Judge Cannon directed a court clerk to unseal multiple documents that Mr. Smith's team sought to keep sealed in the case that accuses the former president of retaining sensitive government materials, including some that were marked top secret, at his Mar-a-Lago home.

    "In light of the Special Counsel's Response to Defendants Motion to Unseal 230, and mindful of the strong presumption in favor of public access to judicial documents, the Clerk is directed to unseal docket entries 223, 224, and 230," Judge Cannon's Dec. 4 order reads.

    Mr. Smith's team also revealed in the newly unsealed court filing that prosecutors initially opposed unsealing 223 and 224 because it "would have revealed to defense counsel information, albeit unclassified, about the contours of the Government's planned CIPA Section 4 motion," meaning that it risked giving President Trump's legal team an opportunity to more effectively counter Mr. Smith's moves.

    Citing the "high volume" of classified discovery, the judge wrote that it's "most prudent, given the evolving complexities in this matter, to adjust the first batch of pre-trial deadlines." She said that she couldn't "ignore the realities" of President Trump's several other trial schedules.

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      “Australia experiencing a shortage of kangaroos as demand for Federal Prosecutors in U.S. ramps up.”

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

        “Banana exports up 1000% in the US: other countries jealous of the United States’ near monopoly on bananas!”

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          "220... 221... whatever it takes."

  41. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    I just want to say again that new Liz is really, really better.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      She really is. White Mike hardest hit.

    2. Chumby   2 years ago

      One should Deepfake the good Liz’s face over the old Liz’s face. And her articles too.

  42. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

    Okay, so where are we on the whole 'safe spaces at universities' thing.
    It wasn't all that long ago that left-wingers wanted the university to be a 'safe space' for them so that they could justify kicking out right-wingers who said things that made them sad.
    So are right-wingers now demanding that universities be 'safe spaces' for their preferred type of speech?

    I understand that we aren't talking about speech over which reasonable people can disagree, like 'taxes are too high', we are talking about genuinely offensive speech about genocide. Then again, back in the day, the left-wingers who demanded 'safe spaces' claimed that the speech that they wanted to censor was also offensive by their standards too.

    So, are we pro-'safe spaces' now, or what?

    1. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      Not so much safe spaces as making them play by their own rules, or at least shame them for their blatant hypocrisy in the face of the mental and linguistic gymnastics they are forced to contort themselves with in order to somehow explain why the rules they made don't apply.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Okay, so this is more 'pwn the libs' crap then.

        So we all are fully on board with universities should be places where right-wing speakers should be permitted to speak even if left-wingers think the speech is offensive, and left-wing speakers should be permitted to speak even if right-wingers think the speech is offensive, right?

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          When that ACTUALLY happens, I will support it.

          It has not. Still. To this day.

        2. Super Scary   2 years ago

          "Okay, so this is more ‘pwn the libs’ crap then."

          If playing by their own rules is "pwning" them, then that says a lot about them.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            That that’s Lying Jeffy’s response says a lot about him too.

        3. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

          Making liberals acknowledge their blatant double standards to own the libs.

          Fuck me, sounds terrible.

        4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          This demonstrates the profound moral bankruptcy of Chemjeff.

          From Liz's link in the Roundup:

          "The presidents of Harvard, MIT, and Penn were all asked the following question under oath at today’s congressional hearing on antisemitism:
          Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?
          The answers they gave reflect the profound moral bankruptcy of Presidents Gay, Magill and Kornbluth.
          Representative Elise Stefanik was so shocked with the answers that she asked each of them the same question over and over again, and they gave the same answers over and over again.
          In short, they said:
          It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews."

          This is what Jeff is trying to portray as ‘safe spaces’ and 'pwn the libs'.

          We've seen the windows of Jewish shops smashed and Jews assaulted (and one killed) on American streets for being Jewish, and now we have the presidents of the premier American universities saying it's alright to call for Jewish genocide as long as you don't do a genocide while your calling for it. But this is just 'safe spaces' to Nazi Jeff.

          Meanwhile two days ago he was posting that some regional GOP fundraising guy was practically Hitler because he had an impolitic Youtuber over for dinner.

          This is how fascist, evil and morally bankrupt Chemjeff is. It's not for nothing that I call him a Nazi.

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Yeah, in this case “safe space” literally means being able to be safe from assault, and he’s conflating it with people who needed a “safe space” from different political beliefs.

            He really is a terrible person.

    2. Agammamon   2 years ago

      Uh, 'safe spaces' are not 'safe spaces for speech'. But you know this. You're just being disingenous.

      The 'safe spaces' were and still are places where speech you don't like it disallowed.

      So . . . there's literally nothing here, moron.

      Safe spaces and free speech are still opposed.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        Uh, ‘safe spaces’ are not ‘safe spaces for speech’. But you know this.

        Yes I did know this, and I made that clear in my comment, so you are stirring up a controversy for no good reason.

        Safe spaces and free speech are still opposed.

        You are right. So where do you stand on this?

        1. Agammamon   2 years ago

          You didn't make it clear in your comment.

          You said the Republicans wanted safe spaces where they could speak freely. The conservatives want free speech, not safe spaces.

    3. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      The "safe space" idea was a shame from the start. The fact is that colleges really always were safe spaces. There are always people around you to support you when someone challenges your ideas. You have friends, colleagues, groups you can go to. I cannot help but wonder what happens to these people when you get in the real world and find that there is no refuge from things that make you uncomfortable, you learn to live with them.

      What has happened is that colleges have gone overboard with the safe space idea and I for one am happy to see them get called out now.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

        ‘Safe spaces’ were always a ridiculous concept. There are offensive people saying offensive things and living in a pluralistic society means that we all have to put up with people saying offensive things from time to time. Freedom of association means we can choose not to associate with people who offend us. Good manners and being a decent human being would compel most people to not be deliberately offensive, but that doesn't apply to some people.

    4. Randy Sax   2 years ago

      My skool had a "free speech zone" (basically the quad) where anyone could set up a table at any time and talk about whatever. In retrospect the name was a little ridiculous, free speech didn't apply only in that "zone".

    5. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      The pro-Hamas terror supporters on college campuses can say whatever they want. Just remember, free speech does not mean free of all negative consequences whatsoever, and there is a thing called free association.

    6. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      Stopped reading right here:

      Okay, so where are we

      No, jackass, the proper noun is "I". You do not get to invoke the royal "we" and speak on behalf of everybody else.

      You betray your collectivist Karen with language like that.

      Fuck off, slaver.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        He really is consistently the most collectivist commentator here.

    7. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      So, are we pro-‘safe spaces’ now, or what?

      Hold your enemy to his own standards. It's a well understood principle.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        Of what?

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          You may not be technically spam, but intellectually, you're on the same level as spam.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Some other spam may object to that comparison.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              True. I should do better, I apologize to the spam bots.

    8. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      Fuck off you leftist cunt. Leftists are offended that biology exists and demand they be sheltered from it, the current offensive speech is a literal call to genocide and you're pretending they're the same. You are an evil POS by any and every metric a civilized society could conceive of.

    9. Zeb   2 years ago

      All I want to see is consistency. Anti-Israel speech should be tolerated. As should anti-gay, anti-anti-racist, etc. speech.

      1. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

        You should be allowed to say, "Fuck sex trafficking victims!"

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          What, may I ask, is the difference between a sex trafficking victim joke and a dead baby joke?

          1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

            Dead Baby jokes are funny.

            1. Chumby   2 years ago

              It is a miscarriage of justice that those jokes are allowed. Nobody needs to fetus these and they should all be aborted.

              1. mad.casual   2 years ago

                The correct answer is: You don't get as much mileage out of a dead baby joke.

              2. mad.casual   2 years ago

                I went to visit my friend who traffics underage paraplegic sex workers at his office. The place was crawling with jail bait.

                I half expected him to be out living it up, moving and shaking but, sure enough, he was there just hanging around all by himself.

    10. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Christ, but you're a smarmy condescending canoe.

    11. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      “Okay, so where are we on….”

      Lol. Jeff, your ice breakers leading into your retarded takes are so formulaic and predictable.

      Just a reasonable guy asking stupid questions with ready made replies for the people who know you’re full of shit.

      Yawn.

  43. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    TDS, striking back, and the other Liz - no, not that one.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/trump-campaign-hits-back-against-dictator-hit-piece-wapo-gaetz-says-green-lighting

    Over the last week, several outlets published articles warning that a second Trump term would turn America into a dictatorship.

    The Washington Post most notably ran a piece written by Robert Kagan, husband of Former State Department official Victoria Nuland (who was deeply involved in peddling the Steele dossier) titled "A Trump dictatorship is increasingly inevitable. We should stop pretending."

    Many suggested this was a clear call to assassinate the former US President.

    In addition to the post, The Atlantic and the NY Times have also published stories warning of a "Trump dictatorship" in recent days, with the Times suggesting that a second Trump term would likely be more radical than his first, The Hill reports.

    "This is nothing more than another version of the media’s failed and false Russia collusion hoax," said Trump spox Steven Cheung, referring to The Atlantic's project to devote their January/February issue to analyzing what a second Trump term would mean for immigration, civil rights, the Justice Department, climate and more.

    Meanwhile Trump's detractors, such as Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), told MSNBC last month that a second Trump term "would look a lot like Viktor Orban in Hungary — illiberal democracy, meaning democracy without rights, or liberties, or respect for the due process, the system, the rule of law."

    This was hard to write with a straight face... Liz Cheney on Tuesday even floated the idea of running as a 3rd party candidate to disrupt Trump's momentum.

    "I certainly hope to play a role in helping to ensure that the country has ... a new, fully conservative part," she told USA Today, adding "And so whether that means restoring the current Republican Party, which ... looks like a very difficult if not impossible task, or setting up a new party, I do hope to be involved and engaged in that."

    "I think that the situation that we're in is so grave, and the politics of the moment require independents and Republicans and Democrats coming together in a way that can help form a new coalition, so that may well be a third-party option," she continued.

    If you thought 2016 and 2020 were weird, 2024 says, "hold my beer".

    1. Agammamon   2 years ago

      "Meanwhile Trump’s detractors, such as Rep. Jamie Raskin (D-MD), told MSNBC last month that a second Trump term “would look a lot like Viktor Orban in Hungary — illiberal democracy, meaning democracy without rights, or liberties, or respect for the due process, the system, the rule of law.”"

      I told you I was in at Victor Orban, you don't have to convince me.

      1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

        "illiberal democracy, meaning democracy without rights, or liberties, or respect for the due process, the system, the rule of law"

        Did they steal this from the DNC platform?

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      a second Trump term would likely be more radical than his first

      His first term was anything but radical.

      It was basic normie shit with some mean tweets on top. NOTHING he did was radical.

      Cut taxes by a few points? Yawn.

      Ban bump stocks in response to a mass shooting? Yawn.

      Tariffs? Yawn (and still going)

      Cut the size of federal government, at all? NOPE

      If you described his whole term anonymously you'd hardly tell if it was Trump or Clinton.

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

        If you described his whole term anonymously you’d hardly tell if it was Trump or Clinton.

        But but but I've been told he was the most libertarian president in the past 100000000000 years!!!!!!!!

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          Considering we haven't had a remotely libertarian president since Coolidge, it might be true. But it's not saying much.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Cutting government in size and dollars just isn't possible without control of OMB. Under Obama they changed language in appropriations bills from may to shall, requiring all appropriated dollars to be spent. Vivek has talked about this is a lot which is why I am leaning towards him in the races.

        He also had Congress authorizing the spending with that language, so he could never cut the dollars despite asking multiple times.

        Where he could he did reduce the regulstorybstate, just not as much as I preferred using the powers he did have.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        Your TDS is raging:

        1) DeVos
        2) Gorsuch
        3) Kavanaugh
        4) Ajit Pai, end net price fixing
        5) Major reduction in the growth of regulations.
        6) Dow +35%
        7) Unemployment at 3.0% (!)
        8) The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high
        9) Got repeal of the national medical insurance mandate.
        10) Withdrawal from Paris climate agreement.
        11) Not sure about the tax reform; any "reform" that leaves me subisdizing Musk's customers is not what I hoped for. Let Musk run a company for once. But cutting taxes is good.
        12) Pulled support for the $13 billion Hudson Tunnel project.
        13) More than 16,000 jobs have been cut from the federal leviathan
        14) MIGHT have a deal to de-nuke NK.
        15) Killed moonbeam’s choo-choo
        16) Supported and signed First Step Act.
        17) “Right to Try” act
        And finally:
        18) Still making lefties steppin and fetchin like their pants is on fire and their asses are catchin'

        1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          I definitely do not have TDS.

          Trump was better than most in my opinion, but well within the range of what I expect from a US President.

          The hysteria from shitlibs about how "extreme" and "dangerous" he was is pure nonsense.

          If we get the president I'd like to have their heads will explode.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago

            The move from Tel Aviv to Jerusalem and the Abraham Accords was exceptional.

            The end of Afghanistan was abnormally good, doubly so considering his 'moderate centrist'/'status quo' successor.

            All of the above with the killing of Soleimani is... abnormally exceptional.

            Were that he average among the holders of his office. Envy the country that has heroes. Pity the country that needs them.

        2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago (edited)

          12) Pulled support for the $13 billion Hudson Tunnel project.

          Just randomly picking one item from your list. This is not “extreme” or “radical”. It’s a funding decision yes or no for a tunnel project that amounts to $13B. Yawn.

          To characterize this action as part of a “radical” term is ridiculous.

          DeVos

          Appointing a head of the department of education is not radical.

          Ajit Pai

          Originally appointed to the commission by BARACK OBAMA . This proves my point. Not a “radical” departure to appoint a guy already on the commission.

        3. Zeb   2 years ago

          Yeah, none of that is radical. And every politician should be criticized for their deficiencies, even if they are the best available option.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Yes, but they ought also be applauded when it's appropriate.

      4. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        Well, there was that "insurrection-by-riot" bit at the end, which was a little bit of a departure for an American President.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          You mean the thing that happened after Trump told everyone to be peaceful and respect the police? Yeah, he totally is responsible.

          1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

            That was only a small part of it. I'm talking about his attempt to stay in office after losing the election.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              You mean the same way Gore sued etc? And how he left office when he was supposed to? Those attempts?

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                Or how Hillary tried to convince electors to not vote the same way as their state did? Or how several Democrats voted not to approve the electoral college in 2016?

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              "Well, there was that “insurrection-by-riot” bit at the end, which was a little bit of a departure for an American President."

              Lying TDS addled shits like you need to fuck off and die.

            3. DesigNate   2 years ago

              You’re really bad at this.

    3. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Imagine the reaction if someone does actually assassinate POTUS Trump. You know some dumbass will try.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        https://www.businessinsider.com/man-arrested-white-house-knife-threat-trump-2020-2

        And even 2016...

        https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/donald-trump-calls-protests-chicago-rally-planned-attack/story?id=37601079

    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

      And sarc above blindly pushing the narrative while claiming not to be on the left or a neocon. Lol.

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      a second Trump term “would look a lot like Viktor Orban in Hungary — illiberal democracy, meaning democracy without rights, or liberties, or respect for the due process, the system, the rule of law.”

      What a hysterical load of bullshit.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        Including to characterize Orban's Hungary that way. Sorry but minimizing illegal migrants and cutting funding for tranny training at universities is NOT a "democracy without rights' LOLOLO

        These sad shitlibs are hilarious.

    6. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago (edited)

      “2024 says, “hold my beer””

      2024 says, “you can have my beer, I’m too deep into shrooms to notice.”

    7. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      would look a lot like Viktor Orban in Hungary

      So the border would be put on lock and Soros would be kicked out of the country? I'm starting to see why the left and center-right are bothered by that prospect.

  44. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Yes, your FBI paranoia is justified.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_3dcac8de-9395-11ee-bd39-8bf0ee50e199.html

    U.S. Sen. Mike Lee, R-Utah, blasted FBI Director Christopher Wray during a Senate Judiciary Committee hearing Tuesday over the agency’s spying on Americans without a warrant.

    The agency has been under fire since news broke that the FBI used the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act (FISA) Section 702 to spy on hundreds of thousands of American citizens without a warrant.

    The FISA law was intended to allow federal surveillance to monitor foreign residents' communications within the U.S. but has since been expanded much more.

    "You have a lot of gall sir,” Lee told Wray at the hearing. “This is disgraceful. The Fourth Amendment requires more than that and you know it."

    “Would abuse of Section 702 by an FBI employee, would that be something that would warrant the revocation of security clearance?” Lee asked Wray at the hearing, referring to FBI employees who used the agency’s search for personal reasons.

    Wray agreed that abuse could possibly qualify for discipline but that he may not agree what constitutes an abuse of the program.

    “I’ve been on this committee for 13 years,” Lee said. “During the entirety of those 13 years I’ve expressed concerns to FBI Directors appointed by presidents of both political parties and three different presidential administrations. Every darn one of them has told me the same thing: ‘Don’t worry about it. We’ve got new procedures. It’s going to be different now.’

    “It’s never different,” Lee added. “You haven’t changed, and you keep referring to these policies, these new procedures. We haven’t seen that. We’re not even allowed to have access to it, and we have absolutely no reason to trust you because you haven’t behaved in a manner that’s trustworthy.”

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago (edited)

      And, truth from Babylon Bee at the bottom of the linked page.

      “NOT SATIRE: On Thursday, November 30th, The Babylon Bee’s own Siaka Massaquoi and his pregnant wife, Charlotte, were headed home on a flight returning from the Daily Wire Lady Ballers movie premier in Nashville, Tennessee. Upon their arrival, Siaka was separated from his wife and abruptly arrested by the FBI. At the time, Charlotte was told the charges had to do with January 6th; however, she was not presented with any arrest warrant. Siaka was taken to Monterey Park Jail where he stayed overnight and was told that he was being charged for four misdemeanors pertaining to his presence outside of the Capital Building in Washington, D.C. on January 6th.

      Siaka and his family are God-fearing citizens. They have served their community through various avenues, and Siaka is currently the LAGOP Vice Chairman. His wife has been a tremendous support to him and is now expecting their first child in March of 2024. Since the FBI raid on his home nearly three years ago, they have feared that this day might come, in which the government would charge him for something he didn’t do. He has been scrutinized at airports for several years but has never been formally charged for anything.”

      https://babylonbee.com/news/keeping-you-safe-here-are-10-more-dangerous-jan-6-criminals-the-fbi-just-arrested

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Oh. Em. Gee.

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          Keeping democracy safe from citizens.

          1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

            Not all black lives matter to the FBI, evidently.

      2. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        So...what did he do?

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

          It says he never entered the building, and he's a journalist, so whatever he did is likely protected by this quaint idea called the 1A. Maybe you've heard of it?

        2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

          voted for Trump, an unforgivable crime as you know.

        3. R Mac   2 years ago

          He doesn’t love the current fascist regime like you do asshole.

      3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        Very fucked up.

        1. rbike   2 years ago

          He apparently ain't black.

          Seriously, this is bad.

  45. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Does this happen in San Francisco?

    https://cwbchicago.com/2023/12/drug-dealer-kept-a-gun-and-60000-worth-of-heroin-and-crack-inside-a-west-loop-homeless-camp-tent-prosecutors-say.html

    For months, Ald. Bill Conway (34th) has been trying to clear out homeless encampments that have become entrenched under viaducts in his ward, saying they are one of the sources of crime in the neighborhood.

    He may be right.

    Chicago police last week arrested a man in a tent city near the Clinton CTA station after he allegedly sold drugs to an undercover cop. Prosecutors said police found more than $60,000 worth of suspected heroin and crack cocaine in the tent he worked out of, along with a loaded handgun with an extended ammunition magazine attached.

    A judge rejected the prosecution’s request to keep 19-year-old Tailon Appleton in jail as a public safety threat.

    Cops entered the tent Appleton was “dealing out of,” prosecutors said in their detention petition, and found a blue backpack. Inside, they found a backpack containing the firearm and baggies of heroin and crack, police said.

    In court records, police said they found nearly three-quarters of a pound of heroin worth $52,875 and $8,610 worth of crack. They also recovered about 5 ounces of liquid codeine and $1,188 in cash, according to the court filings.

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      “A judge rejected the prosecution’s request to keep 19-year-old Tailon Appleton in jail as a public safety threat.”

      Did he also give the gun back?

      1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

        Was he White?

        1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

          George Soros approves.

    2. Medulla Oblongata   2 years ago

      'This Is Hell': These Eight Men Who Brutally Assaulted a Minor Won't Get Any Jail Time (townhall.com)

      The attack occurred in 2020. The victim, then just 15-years-old, was assaulted, dragged into the bushes by the perpetrators, and raped. The reason is that they had a rough go of it as immigrants. I’m not kidding.

      The German outlet noted that the 11 indicted suspects represented a range of nationalities. Four were German, while others hailed from Kuwait, Poland, Egypt, Libya and Iran.

      A female psychiatrist testifying on behalf of the defendants argued that their alleged gang rape was a “means of releasing frustration and anger” stemming from their “migration experiences and socio-cultural homelessness,” according to the Hamburger Morgenpost.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Well, hopefully dad won't get any jail time either after he works out his frustration and anger by stabbing the filthy pigfuckers to death.

  46. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    China's rise to become an economic power has been its acceptance of a more open economic system. As President Xi Jinping attempts to exert more control will I think there will be even greater contraction of China's economic power. This is the dilemma for the authoritarian leader. The quest for personal power will limit the power of the country you control.

  47. Agammamon   2 years ago

    "The New York Times describes Megyn Kelly using the term mask fascists as "stoking the culture war grievances." What term would they prefer?"

    C'mon Wolfe, what are you? A Republican?

    Even Reason says that Republicans are stoking the culture war. Just lie back and let the Progressives change everything.

  48. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/EndWokeness/status/1732376774946771088?t=0_-5fSccXFAwfLVYFqZ8qg&s=19

    Biden passed a $1 trillion infrastructure bill in 2021 with $7.6 BILLION set aside for electric car chargers.

    A grand total of 0 new chargers were built with that funding.

    Where did all that money go?

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      100% for the big guy?

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Well, the focus groups did at least discuss where they wanted to put ‘em, and then the money ran out.

      Bidenflation is a bitch, man. 2021 was a long time ago, and $7.6B don’t go as far as it used to.

  49. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/g_shullenberger/status/1732402028628828222?t=UB19D2qAzZF86fuMwT8XmA&s=19

    I wrote a whole article a month ago about how college admins have no one but themselves to blame for the pickle they’re currently in. However, the right really needs to make up its mind whether it wants to neutralize DEI safetyism or expand its scope.

    [Link]

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      Neutralize.

      What an easy conundrum.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        By “the right” he means left wing secular jews who thought they’d be safe from it’s effects.

  50. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    But now, the board of elections is cracking down on this, so “self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them” or “have been using the names for at least two years.”

    What about Chinese people with English names? is that ok?

    1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      How about people with the English lady name Lee? Will they be allowed to use that surname (BTW, just got done reading a book on the Naval side of the Civil War and R.E. Lee's cousin was a much decorated Union Naval Commander that commanded a number of important operations closing down southern ports as part of the blockade).

      1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago (edited)

        Asian parents named Lee – please don’t call your son Robert.

        https://www.independent.co.uk/sport/us-sport/espn-robert-lee-remove-presenter-charlottesville-confederate-general-racist-asian-american-name-a7907701.html

        And wait until they find out they can't watch Inherit the Wind any more:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_E._Lee_(playwright)

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

          During the base/post renaming debate, I said and easier (and cheaper thing, because it costs taxpayers tens of millions of dollars to change a posts name) instead of changing Ft Lee because it’s named after Robert E, why not just change it so that it’s now named after his father, Light Horse Harry (hero of the Revolution) or his cousin Rear Admiral Samuel Phillips (who stated loyal to the Union and thus should be honored)?
          https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Phillips_Lee

          1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

            Because it has nothing to do with Robert E Lee or anything else beyond the fact that it was a place where the progressives could gin up a culture war.

            That was the whole shtick. All of it. Make controversy, even where nobody cares in the least, then go scorched earth on the issue. You're either with us 100% or burnt to the ground.

            They don't give a rat's ass about Lee. Or the other Lee. Or heroes of the Revolution, since that was the wrong revolution by their standards.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

              Oh, I know. It just would have been far easier and cost tax payers far less. BTW, I have no problem renaming Ft Benning to Ft More, because Hal Moore was a bad ass, even before Vietnam. He volunteered to test new parachutes. That takes a pair. Because if they fail…

              Renaming Bragg to Victory was just asinine on the other hand. Also, naming it Bragg in the first place was a bad choice, Bragg was one of the worst Confederate Generals, and not all that successful when he was still serving the US either.

              1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                As an edit, the right deuce is the most decorated unit in US Army history, surely there was someone in the plethora of highly decorated eight deuce history that they could have renamed Bragg after. James Gavin comes to mind. Fucking bad ass himself.

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  And I would have renamed Hood after Audie Murphy, most decorated soldier in US Army history, and also from Texas. But Cavazos was a okay pick too.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Audie Murphy is a case of real life is unrealistic. In the movie about his life, To Hell And Back, Murphy actually asked the writers to remove some things he did in WWII, and included in his autobiography, as he thought movie audiences might not believe them.

                    Cracked even listed Murphy as one of five real-life soldiers who make Rambo look like a pussy (spoiler alert - Murphy is #1).

                    https://www.cracked.com/article_17019_5-real-life-soldiers-who-make-rambo-look-like-pussy.html

                    When Audie Murphy applied to the Marines in 1942 at the tender age of 16, he was 5'5" and weighed 110 pounds. They laughed in his face. So he applied to the Air Force, and they also laughed in his face. Then he applied for the Army, and they figured they could always use another grunt to absorb gunfire, so they let him in. He wasn't particularly good at it, and they actually tried to get him transferred to be a cook after he passed out halfway through training. He insisted that he wanted to fight though, so they sent him into the maelstrom.

                    During the invasion of Italy he was promoted to corporal for his awesome shooting skills, and at the same time contracted malaria, which he had for almost the entire war. Try to remember that.

                    He was sent into southern France in 1944. He encountered a German machine gun crew who pretended they were surrendering, then shot his best buddy. Murphy completely hulked out, killed everyone in the gun nest, then used their weaponry to kill every baddie in a 100-yard radius, including two more machine gun nests and a bunch of snipers. They gave him a Distiguished Service Cross, and made him platoon commander while everyone apologized profusely for calling him "Shorty."

                    About half a year later, his company was given the job of defending the Colmar Pocket, a critical region in France, even though all they had left was 19 guys (out of the original 128) and a couple of M-10 Tank Destroyers.

                    The Germans showed up with a shitload of guys and half a dozen tanks. Since reinforcements weren't coming for a while, Murphy and his men hid in a trench and sent the M-10s to go do the heavy lifting. They got ripped to shreds.

                    Then, this five-and-a-half-foot-tall kid with malaria ran up to one of the crippled M-10s, hopped in behind the .50 cal machine gun, and started killing everything in sight. Understand that the M-10 was on fire, had a full tank of gas and was basically a death-trap.

                    He kept going for almost an hour until he was out of bullets, then walked back to his bewildered men as the M-10 exploded in the background Mad Max style. They gave him literally every medal they could (33 in all, although he had doubles of a few, plus five from France and one from Belgium), including the Medal of Honor.

                    After the war, he came down with Shell-Shock, and was prescribed the antidepressant placidyl. When he became addicted to the drug, rather than enter a program like some kind of sissy, he went cold-turkey, locked himself in a motel room for a week and got over it. He wrote an autobiography entitled To Hell and Back, and later became an actor.

                    When some Hollywood producer wanted to make a movie based on Murphy's autobiography, he was determined to have Murphy play himself in the film. Murphy was afraid people would see the complete insane awesomeness the story had to offer, and think he was embellishing or trying to cash in on his fame, so he actually had them take parts out for fear that they wouldn't be believable to a Hollywood audience. Seriously.

                    He was one bad mother fucker.

                    1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                      Yeah, every time a Marine brings up Chesty, all I gotta ask is Chesty who? It's pronounced Audie.

                      Read about Gavin in Sicily and Normandy, that was some bad ass battlefield leadership there too. When the division XO is in the foxholes with the grunts directing anti-armor firing with the very real possibility that the position is about to be overran, that's the kind of leader you'll follow into hell.

      2. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        English surname not sure why it changed it to lady (maybe I typed last and it changed it to lady, but that still is a stupid autocorrect).

    2. TangoDelta   2 years ago

      I wonder if SF realizes that this is a policy that may very well help elect more Chinese officials given their hatred for Asians, well at least certainly when it comes to education. I mean it's trivial to romanize a Chinese name so English speakers err readers(?) can read it and recognize it but that really only works one way. It may be entirely plausible that a non-Chinese name could be translated as 草泥馬 which means grass mud horse and is actually very highly likely to get any Chinese person to vote against them considering the implied meaning. Imagine having to rely on the state to "translate" your name into Chinese - if the translator doesn't like you you'll likely wind up like so many people who thought they were getting the Chinese symbol for "courage" or "beauty" tattooed on their shoulder only to find out years later that they both got a tattoo that simply reads "pig".

  51. Sevo   2 years ago

    As goes the CA government, so goes the nut-house:

    "New California law mandates gender-neutral toy sections in stores"
    [...]
    "On Saturday, California Governor Gavin Newsom signed Assembly Bill 1084, which requires large retailers to create non-gendered children's sections in stores by 2024.
    "A retail department store that offers childcare items or toys for sale shall maintain a gender-neutral section or area, to be labeled at the discretion of the retailer, in which a reasonable selection of the items and toys for children that it sells shall be displayed, regardless of whether they have been traditionally marketed for either girls or for boys," the bill reads..."

    Shame DeSantis didn't get wind of this.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      If I were the store owner, I would tell them that every toy section is gender-neutral as long as the parent, guardian, or kid, regardless of gender, buys the toy.
      🙂
      😉

      1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

        True. What a ridiculous waste of time.

    2. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      How about a political ideology-neutral toy section?

      But I am surprised that California does not require a payment-neutral toy section. Yet.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        How about a political ideology-neutral toy section?

        So no Disney stuff?

        1. Chumby   2 years ago

          The Little Spermaid toys need to be displayed in the adult products section.

    3. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

      I don't think I have seen toys labeled as boy or girl toys in any toy department I've been in. Yes, some toys are played with more often by girls and others by boys, but never exclusively.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Although, they do keep a separate Barbie aisle...

        😉

        1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

          You mean warehouse.

  52. Sevo   2 years ago

    BTW turd lies.

  53. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/chrismartenson/status/1732390244891156529?t=eg2koj5hgEUqfqaN2EvjEw&s=19

    "They" have a plan. Do you ever wonder who "they" are and, more importantly, WHY they are doing what they do?

    @shellenberger is exposing what they are up to while we're all distracted by meaningless Congressional resolutions and other drivel. This is big folks. We're headed toward the worst lockdown there is; the lockdown of what we are allowed to think.

    Remember, there's no such thing as freedom of speech if you don't have freedom of thought.

    Our prosperity is at stake. Future generations are being handed a worse world run by the worst types.

    It's time to choose sides.

    [Link]

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Did Ace Cub Reporter Michael Schellenberger ever figure out that David Depape wasn't actually living in a bus in Berkeley?

  54. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    I have done extensive research and can find no mention of the humanitarian crisis in Nazi Germany during World War II. Almost daily "carpet bombings" of German strategic and tactical targets were reported and some American military losses were prominent. Newspapers in America did not report daily or weekly German casualty numbers or problems there with food, water or hospitals being overwhelmed with the wounded. I wonder what changed in America between then and now?

    1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      Er, the Internet?

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        women

      2. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

        No, newspapers.com and newspaperarchive.com are the sources I subscribe to.

      3. Zeb   2 years ago

        Possibly also the quaint idea that you shouldn't fund and support both sides in a war.

    2. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "I have done extensive research and can find no mention of the humanitarian crisis in Nazi Germany during World War II. "

      There were a number of British elites, members of the House of Lords and House of Commons who denounced the bombing of Germany on moral grounds, in the House, and in the press.

      "With Bishop George Bell and fellow Labour Member of Parliament (MP) Alfred Salter, opposing area strategic bombing during World War II.[9] After the RAF's bombing of Dresden on the night of 13 February and the early hours of 14 February 1945, his questions in the House about the act[10] were in part responsible for the reappraisal of the Government's bombing policy in the last month of the war in Europe. Stokes was also a prominent critic of the inadequacy of Allied tank design. "

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/George_Bell_(bishop)#Opponent_of_area_bombing

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Oh, goody! the asshole trueman finally provides a cite for his bullshit claims, and it's
        WIKI?!
        Fuck off and die.

  55. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    This sentiment was echoed elsewhere, including in terms like "glory to our martyrs" (at the University of California, Berkeley, and Georgetown). It's hard to imagine such odious speech being allowed on campus if it were directed at other minority groups, or expressed in the wake of a different tragedy.

    Imagine protests celebrating Dylann Roof.

  56. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    Washington post fires all employees, no journalists lose their jobs

  57. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

    And how many 'safe zones' in Israel has Hamas designated?

    "Israel has designated a number of 'safe zones' to which it says people in Gaza should move to avoid the fighting," per The New York Times, "but many in the enclave cannot access Israel's directions because they have no electricity and poor to nonexistent internet and cellphone service."

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Zero. Hamas wishes only to kill Jews. It is in their covenant.

      Instead, Hamas members will be hunted down like the human animals that they are, and killed.

      Innocent palestinians? Almost an oxymoron.

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        Don't you mean, "like the vermin that they are"?

        1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago (edited)

          Yes, Hamas are vermin, do you have a problem with that? And if you're referring to the Jewish professor who was punished for saying that, in context it's perfectly clear he was referring to Hamas.

        2. R Mac   2 years ago

          Found the guy that’s good with mass rape.

          1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

            He's just mad he will never get a shot with Alona Tal, Natalie Portman or Gal Gadot. Not that any of the rest of us have a shot either, but we don't fantasize about raping Israeli women because we can't.

            1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

              TBH, I'd much prefer Alona or Natalie over Gal, myself.

              1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

                This Natalie?

                https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-A0iftflme4

                1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

                  Fuck yeah.

  58. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Gold Bars found in Sen. Bob Menendez's New Jersey home linked to 2013 robbery, NBC reports"
    [...]
    "FBI agents searching the home of Sen. Bob Menendez found at least four gold bars that investigators tied to a New Jersey businessman who is one of the senator's co-defendants in a federal bribery case, according to records obtained by NBC.
    Photos of the alleged gold bars found in Menendez's Clifton, New Jersey, home were included this year in a bribery indictment against him and four co-defendants. Now, an NBC New York investigation revealed Monday that serial numbers of the four gold bars in the bribery indictment appear to be exact matches to four of the 22 gold bars that businessman Fred Daibes reported as stolen in 2013..."
    https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/gold-bars-found-in-sen-bob-menendezs-new-jersey-home-linked-to-2013-robbery-nbc-reports/ar-AA1l2Q6C

    1. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      'Sticky Fingers' Menendez is an embarrassment to the nation; in NJ however, he is just another politician on the take. He is from Hudson county, where the dead have been known to return (in election years).

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Chi-town beckons.

  59. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    (A bit of a personal grievance rant)

    WTF is with the US Postal Service? Again.

    I have experienced multiple instances of packages bouncing around the western region, including different states, with one right now intended for my grand daughter in Tucson. The shipment actually originated in Tucson (Amazon distribution center) but has been in or near Albuquerque for a week.

    Our neighborhood delivery is now consistently occasional. And accuracy, for us and neighbors, is no better than 80% in the right box.

    A postmaster and her assistant have been accused (and documented) of conducting personal vendettas by either hoarding mail or returning it to sender.

    The post office will never answer phone calls or respond to email, including from our local news paper, that found some gumption and has tried to play investigative journalism.

    Is this all the fault of Trump/Biden?

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago (edited)

      And of course. After trying to submit a USPS web site help request I got this:

      There was a problem submitting your Service Request. Please try again later.

      Fuck the Postal Service. Ben Franklin was wrong.

      1. soldiermedic76   2 years ago

        To be fair, Franklin's vision of a post office was government funded but privately ran by contracted carriers, just as he had been under the Crown when he was a postmaster general. And that's how the USPS operated for nearly a century and a half.

      2. Stuck in California   2 years ago

        They redid their website. Made it better, they claim. Fixed* it, and when I tried to send a package a couple of weeks back I got a raft of errors. Eventually I got my postage and a pickup request, but holy crap was it frustrating. Click 'n ship used to work really well for me.

        They used to be better all over. I mailed a lot of packages for a few years, 15 years ago. Home based business. And the local was good when there was a problem, I could drop a note to the postmaster and he'd sort things. The most recent postmaster here has been useless, and she runs several POs, never responds to complaints, and things keep getting worse. The difference is palpable.

        *Fixed can also be defined like what the vet did to the cat

    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      The USPS, at least in my area, has sucked majorly for quite some time, at least since the first half of W's admin. They, for some reason, manage to mangle mail, deliver to mailboxes a mile away, dump all mail for a given building in one mailbox instead of the four on the fucking building, deliver bills after their due date, and just are generally incompetent.

    3. Moonrocks   2 years ago

      I've only ever had problems with mail when I lived in New Mexico.

  60. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

    English literacy is a requirement of citizenship. You don’t have to have perfect English, but you’re expected to read sufficient some very basic tasks-such as filling out a ballot.

    I’m in favor of accommodating people who don’t speak English in a variety of contexts. But I think people who choose to engage with the democratic process should be required to read enough to know which name you’re choosing.

    1. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

      What about genders?

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        There are two; male and female.

        1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          (and they never change)

  61. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    "Post journalists have covered two wars, an insurrection, a pandemic, gun violence in America, climate disasters, two presidential campaigns and more"

    By "covered" the union goon clearly means "presented the Editors with millions of carefully selected hot button words, thousands of column inches of severely contextually biased pseudo-news and shameless propaganda content fodder" in aid of the social justice and culture wars currently raging in the United States of America.

    1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      “Post journalists have covered two wars, an insurrection, a pandemic, gun violence in America, climate disasters, two presidential campaigns and more”

      Was there some kind of scenario where they do NOT cover those topics during that time? I'm confused by this statement.

      1. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

        Obviously! They do NOT cover topics like debunked leftist myths, failed socialist programs, disproven marginalization narratives and non-existent threats to Our Democracy.

  62. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>deepfakes in porn.

    all the chick orgasms ever.

  63. Think It Through   2 years ago

    "self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them" or "have been using the names for at least two years."

    So San Francisco is denying the self-identification of political candidates? Literal violence.

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      lacists!

  64. Dillinger   2 years ago

    one of the clinically unwashed outside my office highway exit now has a chest of drawers next to his blanket enclave. if furnished can he truly be homeless?

  65. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Re the chinese names on SF ballots: I love how the solution to "people are so dumb and uninformed you can fool them into voting for you just based on your name" is to make it illegal to use names that will fool them.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Thomas Jefferson Johnson, aka "Jeff" Johnson.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      But also to grandfather in all of the current incumbents (themselves):

      "self-submitted Chinese names may only be used if candidates can prove that they were born with them" or "have been using the names for at least two years."

  66. AT   2 years ago (edited)

    Does calling for the genocide of Jews violate [your university’s] code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?

    It ‘depends on the context’ and ‘whether the speech turns into conduct,’ that is, actually killing Jews.

    What ticks me off is that the shaved apes in Congress don’t immediately follow that with, “Does calling for the genocide of Muslims violate your code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment? Does calling for the genocide of LGBTs violate your code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment? Does calling for the genocide of blacks violate your code of conduct or rules regarding bullying or harassment?”

    Because you know damn well the answer wouldn’t be “it depends on the context” or “if it turns into conduct.”

    But Stefanik is so busy trying to get the answer she wants, that she misses the opportunity to get them on record either making it crystal clear that free speech also applies when turned against the left’s sacred cows; or getting a de facto yes if they show even the slightest hypocrisy and double standards with regard to said sacred cows.

    Dumb. We elect dumb idiots.

    1. mtrueman   2 years ago

      "But Stefanik is so busy trying to get the answer she wants, that she misses the opportunity to get them on record either making it crystal clear that free speech also applies when turned against the left’s sacred cows"

      This is about standing up for Israel and suppressing those who oppose the war. It's not about free speech and it's not about scoring points against the left. There's no missed opportunity here.

      1. AT   2 years ago

        We can multitask.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          Multitasking is antisemitic.

      2. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

        This is about standing up for Israel and suppressing those who oppose the war.

        “The wars” happened in 1948, 1967 and 1973, when Arab states tried to ethnically cleanse the remaining Jews from the Middle East, after ethnically cleansing their own nations of Jews, based on the belief that the entire Middle East ought to be pure Muslim Arab. It’s a bigger version of Nazi ideology and the Nazi final solution, with the important difference that this “concentration camp” (Israel) prospered and fought back. Those are “the wars”. that created the situation in Gaza and the West Bank.

        Israel tried to resolve this by returning these lands to Egypt and Jordan, but those nations refused to accept it.

        Israel tried to resolve this situation peacefully by giving the people in Gaza autonomy and self-governance, only to be attacked again by people who, again, want to eliminate all Jews from the Middle East and committed terrorist and war crimes to do so.

        Yes, there should be an “end to this war” but only once Hamas surrenders unconditionally and releases all the hostages, just like we demanded the unconditional surrender of the Nazi regime.

        1. mtrueman   2 years ago

          "“The wars” happened in 1948, 1967 and 1973"

          I am referring to the on going war. Or slaughter, if you want to quibble.

          "Israel tried to resolve this by returning these lands to Egypt and Jordan, but those nations refused to accept it."

          It's not the land, it's the people who are the stumbling block. Under international law, treaties and conventions, it's Israel who is obliged to resolve the issue of refugees. Not Egypt or Jordan or anywhere else.

          "but only once Hamas surrenders unconditionally "

          Do you really believe that? What do you think happened on Oct. 7? Hamas militants fought to the death rather than surrender. This makes them a formidable force to those who oppose them. I don't see how that dynamic has changed. What makes you think they've changed their minds?

          "just like we demanded the unconditional surrender of the Nazi regime."

          Do you really believe that? Hyperbole? Irony?

  67. EdG   2 years ago

    Intifada is an Arabic word literally meaning, as a noun, "tremor", "shivering", "shuddering". It is derived from an Arabic term nafada meaning "to shake", "shake off", "get rid of", as a dog might shrug off water, or as one might shake off sleep, or dirt from one's sandals.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      And?
      'Kamikaze' is a Japanese word that means 'divine wind.' Sounds so much more pleasant than 'suicide bomber' or 'child pilot never trained to land'.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        You want pleasant thoughts? Think of intifada as arranging the vegetables in your stall to match the colors of the Palestinian flag.

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          Spouting nonsense still an end unto itself, eh?

  68. mtrueman   2 years ago

    "we should … be unafraid to use clear, indispensable scientific terms like 'male' and 'female.'" She maintains that "sex categories are facts of nature which do not carry implications for anyone's value or rights."

    The words male and female go back to Middle English. Before the age of science. The word female is used in at least two different ways. The first is a person who can bear children. The second, entering our language a few hundred years later, is the penetrated part of a connection. The meaning of words changes and broadens over time. If they don't disappear all together.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      The meaning of words changes and broadens over time.

      Often the meaning of words change and evolve naturally.

      Often, language is being deliberately manipulated and imposed in 1984-like fashion by extremists for their agenda, like calling poor people "under-privileged", or adopting the word "queer" for straight people, or using the word "female" for autogynephiles and cross-dressers. American neo-Marxists, German Nazis, and Soviet communists did this. Occasionally, they succeed. Fortunately, most of their attempts at manipulation land on the trash heap of history.

      1. mtrueman   2 years ago

        "Fortunately, most of their attempts at manipulation land on the trash heap of history."

        In that case, perhaps you should find some other hobby horse to ride. There's nothing wrong with 'deliberately manipulating' language. We do it every time we speak. You seem to have led a sheltered life, if you think calling poor people under-privileged is extremism.

        1. NOYB2   2 years ago (edited)

          There’s nothing wrong with ‘deliberately manipulating’ language. We do it every time we speak.

          “Deliberately manipulating language” is a form of lying. Yes, that is wrong. No, people do not do it.

          You seem to have led a sheltered life, if you think calling poor people under-privileged is extremism.

          Most people who use terms like “underprivileged” are not extremists, they are merely useful idiots for extremists.

          Nevertheless, calling poor people “underprivileged” or “disadvantaged” is a lie: there is no evidence that the roots of poverty are found in lack of privilege or lack of advantages. And it is a harmful lie, because it causes people to remain poor.

          And I assure you, I know first hand that there is a difference between being poor and being underprivileged.

          1. mtrueman   2 years ago

            "“Deliberately manipulating language” is a form of lying. "

            I disagree. Check your dictionary. Lying is defined as something like knowingly misrepresenting the truth. It is not 'deliberately manipulating language,' something we all do since our infancy every time we speak.

            "Most people who use terms like “underprivileged” are not extremists, they are merely useful idiots for extremists. "

            Conspiratorial claptrap. Think for yourself.

            "And it is a harmful lie, because it causes people to remain poor."

            You said it yourself, no evidence. We commenters call these 'just so stories.' Avoid them.

  69. fafalone   2 years ago

    It's hardly "odious" to point out how Israel's policies are largely responsible for the creation of Hamas.

    I don't seem to recall Reason flipping out over the similar observation that US policy was largely responsible for Al Qaeda and subsequently 9/11.

    1. NOYB2   2 years ago

      That statement is utterly wrong.

      Gaza and the West Bank are the result of, and filled with refugees from, a war started by Arabs seeking to create a pan-Arab state and intended to commit ethnic cleansing and genocide against Israeli Jews. Israel is in no way responsible for this, nor for the pain and suffering it has caused to the people in those territories.

      Nor was "US policy was largely responsible for Al Qaeda and subsequently 9/11". Terrorists were fully responsible for Al Qaeda and 9/11. Their motivation wasn't American policy or poverty or grievances, it was Islamic extremism.

      At the root of the conflicts in the Middle East are the ideologies of radical Islam, Marxism, and Pan-Arabism, a toxic stew of racist and intolerant beliefs comparable to National Socialism. That is what you are making excuses for, and that is why your statements are odious.

  70. NOYB2   2 years ago

    With no federal law banning the practice, we discuss on this episode of The Big Take podcast efforts to combat it.

    Civil court seems more than adequate to handle deep fakes in porn.

    Bonus: politicians and many other public figures can likely bring no case since it is impossible to defame them.

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