Review: How To Live to 100

It's not as easy as Netflix's Secrets of the Blue Zones makes it seem.

Living for a century is not as easy as Netflix's new docuseries Live to 100: Secrets of the Blue Zones makes it seem. The show looks at places such as Sardinia, Italy, and Okinawa, Japan, where the residents are unusually long-lived. While naturally noting that diet, exercise, and having a purpose in life seem to contribute to longevity, the series undervalues the importance of choosing your environment. That personal choice not only involves what you eat and how active you are, but also who you choose to spend your time with.

Silicon Valley entrepreneurs, such as Kernel CEO and biohacker Bryan Johnson, are investing billions into trying to find the tech hack to live longer. There is not yet a foolproof plan to make it to 100 years old, but many clues in Italy, Costa Rica, and even California suggest that thoughtfully selecting good company may add a few extra years.

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[Analogia Entis & eggroll]

LIve to 100, stay around to starve to death or answer the next Nazis at your door. It isn't really a religious argument for me to say that living to 100 might be something you regret as you never regretted before.
I take the sane and moral steps to use the resource of my life as best I can, but sticking around is not a goal. If I had had my pick I would have died before Fool of Fools Biden got in. That is a crushing sadness to me -- and that utter childish goon VP, so sad, kills much of the joy in life.

So you stick around maybe your last days will be watching Mr and Mrs Buttigieg get sworn in.

[TwilaMiller]

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[Don't look at me!]

Can’t let politics run your life.

[SRG2]

If you severed yourself from social media and cultivated your own garden, you'd be somewhat happier.

[TheReEncogitationer]

A lot happier I’d say. If something from it is worth reading or watching, let others on social media share it, but don’t live on there. I don’t even comment on every Reason article.

[Chumby]

There are many that have and are doing that. Probably just as many that whip up excuses why they can’t and instead continue to believe their own bullshit narratives.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

The government is suspicious of people who grow their own food.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Even I, an apartment dweller, have grown sorrel, leaf kale, leaf spinach, mint, rosemary, basil, little peppers and cherry tomatoes in the window. This Fall and Winter actually looks more fruitful than the Summer.

[TheReEncogitationer]

If something is worth doing, such as fighting for freedom, then isn’t it worth doing for as long as you can get away with it, including even forever?

And aren’t thugs and tyrants worth outliving?

Without knowing or necessarily endorsing anything else he may think, here are some wise words from Eric Jorgensen about both longevity and so-called “Universal Health Care”:
https://youtube.com/shorts/aAii1LJ8rLk?si=GhY5DaCgApN3x7sM

[TD]

There definitely are people whose ongoing presence will shorten your life.

[TheReEncogitationer]

I would definitely not pick California as a longevity spot. With the late Jimmy Buffet's description of "riots, fires, mudslides, and sushi in the mall," longevity in California is neither possible, nor worth it.

[Eeyore]

Marin County has historically been in the top 2 in the US for life expectancy. I attribute the money.

[TheReEncogitationer]

So the ink on Federal Reserve Notes is The Fountain of Youth?

Hmmm...That would certainly explain Government programs that will not die.
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[Eeyore]

If you watch Southpark you know it also cures AIDS.

[TheReEncogitationer]

I’ll have to catch that….South Park, that is, not AIDS.

I may be Pan, but I’m not a bug-spreader.

Yet another reason to seek longevity and immortality is to see the day when big diseases with little names and unwanted pregnancy are gone from the face of the Earth!

That will be The Real Sexual Revolution!
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[Vernon Depner]

Marin County has historically been in the top 2

Is that counting frozen heads?

[Vernon Depner]

I forget which comedian said, "Married men live longer—but they don't live more."

[Eeyore]

Married men live longer, but they are more willing to die.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Marriage will have to go with immortality, at least the vow: "...'til death do us part."

Serial, plural, and modular marriages would be the most likely form marriages would take with the superannuated.

[Chumby]

A steady diet of Netflix is unlikely on that menu.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Without wise selection, that Net will ensnare you and prepare you for flash-chilling.

[mad.casual]

the series undervalues the importance of choosing your environment.

Yeah, no shit. The degree to which he acts like Okinawa is some sort of undiscovered rain forest paradise that's been generating centenarians for centuries (rather literally saying it at one point) while ignoring that it was a war zone that killed 1/3 of everyone who lived there less than 100 yrs. ago (and that most of the people who live there now didn't live there 100 yrs. ago), is astounding. There is some is some interesting discussion about how smaller peer groups essentially set up their own private "Social Security" services or systems but, again, the degree to which he ignores that the current crop of 100-yr.-olds he's examining clearly aren't wearing clothes made in Okinawa, aren't using 100-yr.-old tools made in Okinawa, and are living in houses built to modern standards was just incredible.

The thing is less any sort of real investigation or documentary and more of the stupid, self-aggrandizing Chris Hemsworth/Gwyneth Paltrow-style celebrity lifestyle brand publicity stunt. Scientifically, it's very reminiscent of the 60s and 70s era social experiments like the Acali Experiment, or even later with the BioDome where somebody with some money threw a bunch at a crazy idea they had, put some guardrails around it to make it seem scientific, and then publicized the result even if they didn't really reach any real conclusions.

[A Thinking Mind]

Let's not forget that for the past 80 years, there's been a sizable presence of foreign military on the Okinawa islands because of US bases. What this means is there's a lot of flow of goods and money into the region at the expense of US taxpayers. No matter how isolated any one village seems, it's connected to the broader trade network around these bases.

I'm not arguing about the net positive or negative effects of US military bases on foreign populations, only the fact that these communities are being influenced by conditions outside their immediate environment.

[(Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring]

"The show looks at places such as Sardinia, Italy, and Okinawa, Japan, where the residents are unusually long-lived."

The most probable answer to this for anyone with an education and some basic common sense is that the populations of these places probably simply lucked out in the great genetic crapshoot a long time ago.

I don't think it's at all a coincidence that both places are small isolated island communities with relatively stable and homogeneous populations (not a lot of inflow or outflow migration in either case).

[Gaear Grimsrud]

My father is 93. He has a sister who's 96. Their father died at 97. I'm 67 and despite my bad habits I'm in much better shape than a lot of men my age. We all have lived in different places and probably eat different foods. My own lying eyes tell me that longevity is mostly genetic.

[TheReEncogitationer]

George Burns was a cigar smoker and was almost a Centenarian, so there is probably much truth to that.

Of course, with Epigenetic modification and CRISPR, better genes could one day be within everyone's reach.

[VULGAR MADMAN]

I think you’re right.

[GroundTruth]

How to live to be a hundred? Easy, pick your parents well.

A variation on this being: If your parents both lived into their 90's, the only way you're not going to live into your 90's is if you start doing stupid things like not looking both ways before crossing the street.

Sure, even a member of the Howard Families (look it up) can kill himself early with enough drink and fast driving, but the genetic head start is big part.

[mad.casual]

Sure, even a member of the Howard Families (look it up) can kill himself early with enough drink and fast driving, but the genetic head start is big part.

Genetics vs. Environment is shorthand for "luck". Your parents living to their 90s sets the potential the same way a well-designed car, if cared for properly, will last a million miles. But if you get locked in a nursing home full of COVID bearers at 70 because of economic downturns, it doesn't much matter if you're designed to last to 100+.

[GroundTruth]

The astrology crowd will weasel with "the stars impel, they do not compel". I'd say that genetics is actually a better example of the difference between a guarantee and setting the stage.

"every hand's a winner, and every hand's a loser, it's how you play them that counts".

[Bill Godshall]

In fact, the oldest living humans (who also have the lowest death rates from obesity, cancer, heart disease, diabetes, high blood pressure, suicide, homicide, alcohol & drug abuse) consume little or no animal products (i.e. <10% of calories consumed).

But the meat, dairy, poultry and seafood industries, along with Big Pharma, Big Medicine, Big Media and Big Government (all of whom have made billions of dollars in revenue from marketing animals and animal pruducts) continue deceiving and lying to Americans (and humans abroad) about the simple facts of living healthy and long lives.

[NOYB2]

There is no clear evidence that vegetarianism increases longevity. If it does, the effect is small. More likely, vegetarianism just happens to be associated with a generally more health-conscious lifestyle.

[Its_Not_Inevitable]

This message brought to you by Big Vegetable.

[mad.casual]

The oldest living humans can't possibly have recorded everything they've eaten for the last 100+ yrs. to conclusively know that they've consumed <10% of their calories from *any* given source, but that won't stop people with the IQ of a turnip, like Bill Godshall, from lying to you like it's some sort of proven fact.

Even further, it's been repeatedly and exceedingly inextricably shown throughout history that countries with large, aging populations and populations that survive on subsistence diets collapse under their own weight and/or fall to younger, better fed, more productive civilizations.

[NOYB2]

The oldest living humans can’t possibly have recorded everything they’ve eaten for the last 100+ yrs. to conclusively know that they’ve consumed

Actually, we know with certainty that many centenarians have lived unhealthy lifestyles; the reason why they got so old are clearly good genetics and luck.

There are large groups of people that reliably have been vegetarian throughout their lives, they just don't reliably live longer than other groups of people who are not vegetarians.

Vegetarianism is neither necessary nor sufficient for long life. However, many Americans would nevertheless live longer if they ate more vegetables and less meat, for reasons related to the standard American diet, not vegetarianism.

[TheReEncogitationer]

If they are literate, they can record anything at any age.

And if they have brains like Marilyn Vos Savant and bodies like Jack LaLanne, an older population could hold it's own or even overcome a younger generation. Naturally health extension and augmentation should be part of the package with life extension and augmentation.

[TheReEncogitationer]

The body needs Vitamin B-12 which, even in synthetic form, ultimately derives from animals, not plants.

Granted, many people probably eat too much fatty meat, but that doesn't categorically rule out meat as a food.

By the way, you know who else was a vegetarian?

[GroundTruth]

Yes, a borderline starvation diet indeed does correlate with longer lifespan in some test animals, but as a human, I'd ask, is it worth the price to be chronically weak and exhausted from lack of sufficient calories?

Thank you, no, and pass the bacon please.

[TheReEncogitationer]

A real life extension package would include better ability to metabolize carbs, fats, and nitrates.

[mad.casual]

If you don’t die of obesity-related CVD, sarcopenia (age-related wasting) is the next strongest indicator of age-related morbidity/QOL reduction and mortality. Grip strength is a strong proxy for sarcopenia (as well as the related side effects of sarcopenia, people who can’t grip anything can’t build strong bones, muscles, hand-eye-coordination, etc.). Total Protein is repeatedly demonstrated to have the strongest correlation to both grip strength and preservation of muscle against wasting in aging populations, with fish and animal proteins being markedly better than other sources. All of this is with aged human populations.

The funny thing is, this is all well known and well studied but Johnson and their cohort seem hell-bent on ignoring it. Presumably because “work hard, do science, identify the best foods (which may not be plant based), support infrastructure to grow the foods, develop the medical knowledge to treat diseases...” doesn’t carry the contrite magical narrative of “Discover where Gaia put the fountain of youth and drink from it.”

[GroundTruth]

magical narrative of “Discover where Gaia put the fountain of youth and drink from it.”

Bingo!

[NOYB2]

What kills Americans is poor diet, lack of exercise, and an overreliance on healthcare.

[Chumby]

Complimentary motorized scooters in grocery and department stores was a harbinger. Have sometimes shared pictures of the chunky brewsters riding in them with friends in other countries.

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Wall-E society.

[TheReEncogitationer]

What angers me the most is when able-bodied Gen Z-er kids ride them recreationally! I've told them to get the Hell off of them when I see them in the store where I work!

[NOYB2]

Methus'lah lived nine hundred years,
Methus'lah lived nine hundred years,
But who calls dat livin'
When no gal will give in
To no man what's nine hundred years ?

[mad.casual]

Worth noting that the centenarian pursuit is, or can be, both A) obnoxiously conservative from a political perspective and B) a conceptual analogue to the GND/eat the bugs initiative.

That is, if we suppose that somehow, someone 100 yrs. ago moved to (e.g.) Okinawa *knowing* that doing so would get them 100 yrs., it's no guarantee that moving there today would have the same effect. Even if it did, you'd need to somehow guarantee that would-be centenarians wouldn't pour into the region spoiling the lifestyle or industrialize whatever source of longevity there.

[markm23]

If you moved to Okinawa in 1923, you'd have a 30 percent chance of being killed when the US invaded. Unless you were a man born in 1923, because then you'd have probably been drafted in 1941 and probably died sooner, on a ship sunk in the war or in China, Burma, or on some other island.

So, maybe Okinawans have pretty good longevity, _except for that_, but it's a big exception.

[TheReEncogitationer]

Tell it to Anna Nicole Smith. She threw it on a one-tenth of a 900-year-old.

And, of course, Methuselah didn't exist, M'Stepford Lady.

*Tips Geritol bottle.*

[NOYB2]

Behold TheReEncogitationer: your typical uneducated, humorless, ignorant, uncultured leftist.

[markm23]

The Bible doesn't say that Methuselah was rich. Anna Nicole Smith didn't marry a farmer.

[Eeyore]

Two of my grandparents made it to 98. They are the two who never went to the doctor. Never used preventative medicine. They probably had hypertension, diabetes, and cancer, but still outlived the grandparents on medication.

[TheReEncogitationer]

With Metformin, the medicated are catching up. In studies, Metformin has helped people with Type 2 Diabetes who take Metformin live longer than non-Diabetics who didn't take Metformin. It's done me well so far and people say I look younger, so Metformin may be a key to longer life.

(Still, I'll look both ways crossing the parking lot to the Pharmacy.)
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[Chumby]

Covid killed me nine times. Nine times.

[Eeyore]

So deadly even a cat can't survive. A friend's cat died from feline covid. If you are a cat, that disease is no joke.

[mad.casual]

Phbbbt. One dead cat isn't even amateur numbers.

[Vernon Depner]

Cats are dying? What's the down side?

[TheReEncogitationer]

Phizer hasn't killed me with vaccine and boosters 5 times, with my most recent jab just last week.

Damn! Qanon is scared of me because I live life in the fast lane!
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[gustavoparu]

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