Jim Jordan Is Trying To Buy the Speakership With Tax Breaks for Wealthy Residents of Blue States
It's a maneuver that makes little fiscal, philosophical, or political sense, but thankfully it also seems unlikely to work.

After failing in two attempts to become Speaker of the House of Representatives, Rep. Jim Jordan (R–Ohio) has reportedly offered an unexpected bargaining chip: a big tax break for wealthy Americans living predominantly in high-tax, Democratic-controlled states.
We'll soon find out whether that makes any difference: Jordan is expected to make a third attempt at securing the speakership on Friday.
Jordan is "on board" with increasing the $10,000 cap on state and local tax deductions if it will secure support for his speakership bid from some hold-out Republicans who also favor lifting or abolishing that cap, Roll Call reports. If it works out, Jordan's proposal would see the so-called "SALT cap"—shorthand for "state and local tax"—doubled to $20,000 for single tax filers and $40,000 for married couples who file taxes jointly. It is, as The Wall Street Journal notes, an obvious attempt to curry favor with Republican lawmakers from blue states like New York.
"It would be a notable endorsement from Jordan, who has led some of the House's most conservative factions that tend to oppose allowing more deductions for state and local taxes," is how Roll Call's Laura Weiss frames the surprising maneuver.
That's putting it mildly. By even putting that deal on the table, Jordan has signaled that he's willing to sell out major Republican fiscal and tax policy accomplishments to advance his career. That's not a good sign (though it would be very much in keeping with Jordan's status as the avatar for a Republican Party that increasingly has little interest in policy making or traditionally conservative principles).
It might be tempting for some libertarians to support a higher SALT cap, simply because it means larger deductions—and therefore lower taxes—for some Americans. Hey, isn't letting people keep more of their own money always a good thing?
Yes, but that's the wrong way to think about the SALT cap. If Congress felt that individuals making $100,000 (or pick any other number you'd like) ought to be paying less in taxes, it should make that the law of the land. The federal tax code should treat all federal taxpayers equally, and that means being agnostic about how much taxpayers might owe in state and local taxes. Doing otherwise is fundamentally unfair: Why should a person earning $80,000 (or, again, pick any number you'd like) in Connecticut get a tax break that isn't available to someone making the same amount of money in Florida?
Yes, that's an argument against all the tax breaks and deductions in the federal tax code—and, indeed, they are all unfair in this same way, when you get right down to it—but the SALT deduction is a particularly blunt and stupid piece of federal tax policy that serves little purpose besides subsidizing taxpayers in high tax states and hiding the burden that bigger government imposes.
If those taxpayers want to pay less, they shouldn't ask Congress for a break. They should elect different state and local officials. Failing that, they should move.
Beyond the philosophical problems, raising the SALT cap to allow for larger deductions is a fiscal misstep too. A preliminary analysis by the Tax Foundation found Jordan's plan would reduce federal tax collections by about $54 billion over the next two years.
Any policy change that significantly reduces federal revenue should come with offsetting spending reductions—and that's especially true when the federal government is running annual deficits of about $2 billion. Without cutting spending, a higher SALT cap is nothing more than a promise to borrow even more.
A smaller but still notable problem is that raising the SALT cap only cuts taxes for the wealthiest Americans in those high-tax states. The Tax Foundation's analysis points out that the benefits of raising the SALT cap flow almost entirely to households earning more than six figures. Other reviews of similar plans in the past have come to similar conclusions. And it should go without saying, but wealthy Americans who choose to live in high-tax states do not need a tax break paid for with more borrowing, which is paid for by everyone else.
Finally, selling out the SALT cap to win speakership votes amounts to a hilariously nihilist political turnabout for Jordan—and Republicans in general. Imposing the current $10,000 cap as part of the 2017 federal tax reform law was a major policy victory for the GOP. It made the federal tax code more fair and effectively undermined the SALT deduction's function as a subsidy for big government in high-tax states.
Undoing even a small portion of the Republican Party's most recent major policy win would be an ignominious way for Jordan's tenure as speaker to begin. If that's the price of getting Jordan's hand on the gavel, few Republicans should be willing to pay it.
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Hey, it's not like you can get something for nothing, especially in DC.
From reading articles like this you'd think everyone was supposed to go about governing and such with the expectation that they can get ahead, or achieve anything, just by doing the right thing.
What Reason considers the economically/morally "right thing" depends very much on the latest progressive talking points. There is no consistency.
Nor cam Reason be trusted to report honestly on the actions of any Republican.
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Well, you can't say that the GOP isn't consistent. No matter what the issue or problem, cut taxes for the wealthy, close the borders, (unless there is a potentially lethal virus involved), cut foreign aid and protect the unborn.
They are a bit short on logic and reason, (even when they are right), but consistent is a strong point.
Reason: Tariffs are the worst because they impose a tiny consumption tax on Americans.
Also Reason: Jim Jordan lowering taxes infinitesimally on middle class people in blue states is the worst because he is one of those icky Trump Republicans.
I’m sure Reason would write unaccountably glowing articles if Hakeem Jeffries were made the ‘compromise’ Speaker.
I've long given up any hope for a large portion of the Reason writers. The precise moment was when the GOP was pushing to eliminate Obamacare and Reason started whinging about their not having a replacement policy. I'm not really sure if it's a matter that their "libertarianism plus" just amounts to lighter touch progressivism or if it's just a simple cynical "if Republicans do it, it's bad" thing. At this point, it's a distinction without a whole lot of difference. Heck, I can remember when Reason was decrying Republicans' "tax hike" when they imposed the SALT limit. The truth is (and I'll concede some exceptions) Reason is full-on libertarian right up to the point that it draws the disfavor of the progressive establishment. And not a single millimeter more. They're more than happy to insist cops face the full consequence of the law for their excesses (and make no mistake, a good many cops deserve it). But, I think we all know that that accountability doesn't extend to the white collar managerial technocracy.
Once you realize that Reason isn't so much a libertarian venue as the venue of the libertarianish wing of gentry progressivism, you realize it's still worthwhile to check out the views of libertarians in the comments.
“I’m not really sure if it’s a matter that their “libertarianism plus” just amounts to lighter touch progressivism or if it’s just a simple cynical “if Republicans do it, it’s bad” thing.”
It’s both. One of the idiots admitted on a podcast that he kept wearing a mask simply to keep his neighbors from thinking he was a Republican.
That's not a good sign (though it would be very much in keeping with Jordan's status as the avatar for a Republican Party that increasingly has little interest in policy making or traditionally conservative principles).
What, pray tell are the 'conservative principles' that Mr. Boehm laments are missing from the Republican party?
Since Mr. Boehm himself has very little interest in "traditionally conservative principles", one might almost wonder if he was concern trolling, if one were uncharitably inclined.
Hey, if one of Reason's Libertarianism Plus stalwarts wants to wishcast the Republican party back into more traditional conservative principles, I'm all ears. Something tells me that these "traditional conservative principles" are "markets and tax breaks only", where everything else gets a nod and a pass.
I can't rememeber which podacst it was on, but I recently heard an analysis of the modern scrambling of language vs ideology, especially in the US which concluded that it's reached a point where a lot of what the "conservatives" are trying to conserve anymore (social conservatives not so much) are the vestiges of an actual "liberal" society since so many who now claim to be occupying the "liberal" stance are illiberal authoritarians at the core of what they're trying to accomplish.
This is exactly my take away.
Well that and conservatives are actually reactionaries in the sense that they’re reacting to the leftist push towards authoritarian totalitarianism.
Economic liberty for one. That hasn't been a conservative principle for a while now.
Yeah, bowf sidez 100% on that one for sure.
That might be a clever comeback if not for the fact that the very foundation of collectivism is hostility towards economic liberty.
If anything it's sad because people who support economic liberty have no one to support politically.
Well, that is obviously no concern of yours.
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What economic liberty are they against? Is that a reference to tariffs?
That's a part of it, sure. Though there's also other protectionist policies that they now support that involve picking economic winners and losers, and telling consumers what they may or may not purchase.
Tariffs though, that's a difficult one. Because most people (including the former president and most of his supporters apparently) believe that tariffs "on China" are paid for by China. They're not. Importers pay them and then bake them into the price paid by consumers.
It's a fact though that neither team gives a flying fuck about consumer choice. They both want to make choices for the consumer.
And the resident morons call anyone who supports economic liberty a leftist, as if their brains are denser than tungsten.
I would argue that the party has always semi embraced picking winners/losers, it’s just theirs we’re usually in the MIC, which can at least be justified in a national security sense. I’m not sure I can recall them really telling people what they can/can’t purchase (TikTok I guess?), but again I would argue that there has been an undercurrent of that at least in my 43 years of life.
Tariffs and some kind of Georgian LVT are the least bad options of taxation in my book. User fees would be preferable too.
No, only stupid people believe that. And only stupid people believe that others believe that. The belief makes no sense because there are lots of other nations we trade with besides China.
Anybody with half a brain knows that tariffs on China were a foreign policy tool to redirect supply chains from China to other nations, something that has actually been happening.
And anybody who understands libertarianism knows that having favorable trade relations with a communist nation whose comparative advantage is widespread violations of the NAP is contrary to the principles of libertarianism.
But you don't know any of that because you are a leftist moron.
And anybody who understands libertarianism knows that having favorable trade relations with a communist nation whose comparative advantage is widespread violations of the NAP is contrary to the principles of libertarianism.
Quite the opposite. China's comparative advantage comes despite, not because of "widespread violations of the NAP".
Their economic gains have come from freedom, not command and control. Show me economic growth in China and I'll show you people with freedom they didn't have a few decades ago.
It is indeed true that China has given its citizens more freedoms over the last couple of decades.
That does not at all imply that their comparative advantage is not due to violations of the NAP. They still set wages and prices, they still control internal markets, they still subsidized exports, they still interfere with freedom of movement, they still interfere with trade, they still violate property rights through environmental destruction, etc.
You reason at the level of a five year old.
That’s a part of it, sure. Though there’s also other protectionist policies that they now support that involve picking economic winners and losers, and telling consumers what they may or may not purchase.
The centerpiece of Republican policy-making. That's why I and 142% of the rest of the country reluctantly voted for Joe Biden.
Rolling over to the demands of the left.
Without tariffs and the occasional, *checks today's Reason feed* non-targeted tax breaks.
Any policy change that significantly reduces federal revenue should come with offsetting spending reductions—and that's especially true when the federal government is running annual deficits of about $2 billion.
Lol
$2 billion? Isn't that $2 trillion now?
I think you’re conflating deficit with debt. I have no idea what our deficit is.
Edit:
No, you're right. About $2 trillion:
I suspect that calculating the deficit is akin to trying to determine how many federal laws and regulations are on the books. Last time the OMB tried to do that [during the 80s, I believe] all of their accountants and statisticians gave up because it was found to be a Gordian knot and so intertwined as to be impossible to determine. All anyone could conclude is that is was somewhere North of 380,000...in short, we are all criminals but likely don't know it. "Show me the man..."
Calculating the deficit is actually quite easy. All you need is the national debt clock, a calendar, and a calculator.
That's how it's so incredibly easy to prove Clinton didn't balance the federal budget. You can calculate exactly how much the deficit was by subtracting the debt when he entered office from the debt when he left. A third grader could do it.
Geez what is all the fuss on this debt crap. Just tax Elon a couple billion more a year and voila. Much ado about nothing!
Yeah, just cut congressional salaries and foreign aid and the deficit is gone!
Eliminate the federal income tax. They will just spend whatever they want anyway. Why bother collecting taxes when the printer is working.
Yeah, like there's some tenuous link between revenue and spending.
There is a link. Tax revenues must cover interest payments on the debt plus whatever occasional payments are required to ensure debt rollover. IOE tax revenues are entirely intended to pay lenders. Otherwise, the debt is defaulted on and there is a financial crisis (and likely hyperinflation)
You may not like it or understand it but it’s what you fiscally irresponsible R’s support.
Come on J’. They are all fiscally irresponsible. This R vs D shit is so tiresome.
D’s tend to be ok with raising taxes – or not choosing to reduce taxes. That obviously doesn’t reduce govt but it does tend to reduce deficits.
I agree that neither D nor R are ‘fiscally responsible’. The characterization is more about whether they are hypocritical.
One way or the other, the debt will be defaulted upon. Either we'll just stop paying, or we'll pay with worthless hyperinflated dollars. The wealth does not exist to actually pay off the debt with sound money.
If the debt grows with the economy, then it doesn't matter. It can exist forever.
Think of it like a credit card (national debt). The more you borrow (deficit spending) the bigger the payment (debt maintenance) becomes. However you keep getting raises (economic growth) at the same time. If you borrow (deficit spend) in such a way as to keep the payment (debt maintenance) a consistent percentage of your total income (federal budget), then you can theoretically keep borrowing (deficit spending) indefinitely without ever paying off the balance (federal debt).
I think that's foolish on a personal or governmental level, but that doesn't mean it's not economically feasible.
It just requires the tiny issue of the government not fucking with the economy.
It requires government keeping borrowing limited in proportion to economic growth, which it is not doing.
Maybe it could if they hadn’t slit the economy’s throat 3 years ago and then curb stomped it for the last 2 (thus keeping the economy from really growing) was kinda where I was going with that.
Where's the laughing face emoji?
You have failed... and failed utterly to explain the desires which reside in the mysterious chambers of the politicians' hearts as to the connection between revenue and spending. Of which there is not only none, there is outright contempt for the linkages.
this.
A smaller but still notable problem is that raising the SALT cap only cuts taxes for the wealthiest Americans in those high-tax states. The Tax Foundation's analysis points out that the benefits of raising the SALT cap flow almost entirely to households earning more than six figures.
I'm against the SALT cap deductions, but this is not a reason why. If you're giving people a break on taxes, the people most in need of a break are the people with the biggest tax burdens.
I'm against this because it means the federal government subsidies those states with higher tax burdens by taking less than it otherwise would. It shields their constituents from seeing the consequences of these higher tax burdens.
Since I block all those who commented due to ad hominem attacks I have no idea if it was pointed out that Eric made this point too.
Exactly.
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"Jordan currently losing third vote for HNIC.
Gridlock is lovely."
Just three days ago you were ranting that not having a speaker was the epitome of Republican malfeasance, and when I asked you why you suddenly didn't like gridlock, you almost shit you pants.
Now you're suddenly cool with it? Did you get new talking-points?
Seems to me this no-speaker thing is working out pretty well.
It's like a government "shutdown", but you still get to visit the Washington Monument.
Is there any reason we can't just keep going like this until the next Congress is elected?
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"Is there any reason we can’t just keep going like this until the next Congress is elected?"
How about we keep this going for the next TWENTY Congresses?
In a few weeks the government will shut down for real and then things start to change in a hurry. At some point here the Republican party will fracture and enough Republicans will cleave off to give Jeffries the gavel. If you a Republican in a safe district you can sit on your backside, if you have to work for your votes you need to be working. A House Republican might lose their seat but vulernable one have likely lost it already.
Here's an idea - promise anything you need to the hold-outs to get them to elect Jordan Speaker then immediately kick every one of those RINO fuckers out of the GOP.
Except their constituents will then elect people who are likely even worse. Sorry to break it to you but we live in a diverse republic. NY Rs are better than NY Ds. No way you are going to get a NY L. I completely oppose SALT but am happy to take the “NY RINO” over a Cali-Style single party D (or R) rule. Why this gets lost is beyond me.
I don't care. All I know is that nothing is coming out of Congress and that's just fine by me.
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A more novel way to spin the headline on this would be that some portion of the Democratic party is apparently willing to help Jim Jordan (formerly of the “Freedom Caucus”) to take over as speaker in exchange for a change in the tax code which have 90% of its benefit going to those with incomes over $400k/year.
Jim Jordan's accomplishments in the House pretty much amount to nothing. It seems unlikely he could do any better as speaker. Boehner, Ryan and McCarthy did not cave because they were completely happy about things, they did it because we have to have a functioning government. Republicans can gum up the works now but the bill will come due in 2024.
"Republicans can gum up the works now but the bill will come due in 2024."
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If you read the roll call link, it's obvious the source of this (Rep Garcia) is lying to make himself look good to his constituents re raising the SALT cap. Other than himself, there is no other credible source for this clap trap which makes it a hit piece on Jordon (who just went down in flames again).
"and that's especially true when the federal government is running annual deficits of about $2 billion."
Off by three orders of magnitude: it's $2 trillion.
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