In Killers of the Flower Moon, Martin Scorsese Plumbs the Depths of American Depravity
A masterful epic from one of Hollywood's most important, most ambitious filmmakers.

For all have sinned and fallen short of the glory of God. The story goes that Martin Scorsese almost became a priest. Instead he became a filmmaker, and he spent the next 50 years chronicling man's endless capacity for sin and depravity.
For Scorsese, the question, always, is: Why do men do evil things?
His films offer some recurring reasons: They are greedy, they are selfish, they are foolish, they are prideful, they are incapable of caring about the pain they inflict on others. But these common answers never tell the whole story. Because those same men—those evil, greedy, selfish, uncaring people—can also be fascinating, morally complex creatures who deserve empathy or at least understanding, and whose evil, in all its inscrutability, tells us something more about the fallen world we live in, and the nature of American society in particular.
Scorsese's latest, the wildly ambitious and often masterful Killers of the Flower Moon, is another chronicle of the evil that men are capable of. It tells the true story of a string of killings in early 1920s Oklahoma, in which a well-connected white cattleman named William Hale used his influence to have multiple members of an Osage Indian family murdered. Hale's plot was part of a complex array of schemes by white interlopers to deprive the Osage of their headrights—lucrative property rights to oil that had been found on their land and which made them among the richest people on the planet.
The federally created headrights system itself offers a revealing reminder of the condescension and paternalism with which such rights were granted, as it involved legally required guardianship for many members of the Osage Nation. Those with guardians could not access their own money without permission from overseers.
For their oil and their money, the Osage were callously murdered over a series of years. Some counts put the death toll around 60; contemporary reporting around suspicious deaths suggests the true death toll may have been in the hundreds. As journalist David Grann, whose nonfiction book the movie is based on, once said, it's the story of "a system rooted in racism, done under the pretense of enlightenment," which resulted in a "criminal enterprise that had been sanctioned by the U.S. government."
Hale, played here with grandiose menace by longtime Scorsese collaborator Robert De Niro, was at the heart of that enterprise. But Scorsese's film focuses on Hale's nephew, Ernest Burkhart (Leonardo DiCaprio), a dim young man who ends up married to an Osage woman, Mollie Burkhart (Lily Gladstone).
The marital connection forms the linchpin of Hale's scheme to acquire her family's headrights. Hale orchestrates the murders of multiple members of Mollie's family, including two sisters, in hopes of acquiring insurance payouts and property rights to the family's holdings. And Ernest, despite being married to Mollie, often acts as his go-between, setting up the killings. Eventually, the killers would be caught and convicted by what was then the Bureau of Investigation—the federal office that would become the FBI.
The subtitle of Grann's book is The Osage Murders and the Birth of the FBI. The screenplay was reportedly originally written with the idea of having DiCaprio play Tom White, the federal agent—ultimately played by Jesse Plemons—whose investigation eventually pins the murders on Hale and Burkhart.
But in developing the film, Scorsese and DiCaprio decided to reorient the story to focus on Burkhart. Here was a man who participated in the murder of multiple members of his wife's family, including a horrific house bombing that killed not only Mollie's sister but her husband and maid. Yet Ernest insisted that he loved Mollie, that his feelings for her were genuine, that he had not married her solely for her money.
Did Burkhart really love her? Was it all a lie? An act? Or was there something true and deeply felt? Scorsese, who co-wrote the screenplay with Eric Roth, does not offer a pat answer. Instead, he suggests that Ernest Burkhart's love was both genuine and motivated by greed, both deeply felt and utterly contrived. Ernest Burkhart himself may not have known the difference.
There is a moment, after Ernest has been arrested and brought in for interrogation, in which Tom White asks whether Ernest is a good man. Ernest hesitates briefly, seemingly confused, then answers hesitantly, uncertainly. He's not entirely sure. Only after White presses him a second time does he confirm he's a good man. It's unthinking, almost a reflex. In Scorsese's rendering, Burkhart was a man who committed evil acts. But even while admitting to those acts, he could not grasp the true nature of the evil in himself.
It's a tale of self-delusion and moral blindness, both of which are central to the worldview that Scorsese has been sketching for most of his filmmaking career.
From the small-time street dealings of Mean Streets to the inchoate male rage of Taxi Driver and Raging Bull to the scheming crime rings of Goodfellas, Casino, and The Wolf of Wall Street, Scorsese has always been drawn to hustlers, schemes, cheats, and killers. In the context of those great films, Killers of the Flower Moon reads as a searing critique not just of men who cannot see or understand their own depravity, but of a nation built on that depravity, on callous schemes and even more callous killings, perpetrated by men who lacked the capacity to reckon with the evil in themselves.
Like The Irishman, Scorsese's recent film about the life of a notorious gangster, Killers is a story about the ways such evil poisons families, towns, entire societies and social systems, as well as individual souls. And it's a meditation on the impossibility of redemption for those who cannot admit to what they have done, for redemption requires a level of remorse and self-awareness that these men lack. The gut-punch of a coda brings this home in an unexpectedly powerful way, implicating both Scorsese and the audience in that failure. For all have fallen short.
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" They are greedy, they are selfish, they are foolish, they are prideful, they are incapable of caring about the pain they inflict on others."
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For their oil and their money, the Osage were callously murdered over a series of years. Some counts put the death toll around 60; contemporary reporting around suspicious deaths suggests the true death toll may have been in the hundreds. As journalist David Grann, whose nonfiction book the movie is based on, once said, it's the story of "a system rooted in racism, done under the pretense of enlightenment," which resulted in a "criminal enterprise that had been sanctioned by the U.S. government."
If it turns out to be similar to the Canadian schools situation, the real number may be closer to zero.
It wasn’t. There were actual trials and convictions over these murders.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Osage_Indian_murders
The Osage are a unique case in American Indian history. They, collectively, bought land in what was Indian Territory, now Osage County, Oklahoma. because they bought their reservation, the Dawes Act really didn’t apply much to them. When they bought the land, they made sure they maintained the mineral rights on and under the land. When oil was discovered on their reservation, they kept the money from the oil rights, and they had the power to lease the lands, not the state or the federal government. This made the tribe very rich, as they held the headrights to the oil.
This made them targets for swindling and those who were jealous enough to kill them.
As an aside, the Osage also managed to get their reservation and the fact it is a separate county into the original Constitution of Oklahoma.
I have no problem with any of this, except it's on Wikipedia, which is now my least trusted historical reference.
There's a bunch of links, including from the FBI themselves (their link, below). It gets forgotten about compared to other events at the time (the nearby Tulsa Race Riot), due to the rural area, and that they occurred to the Osage (not, say blacks or another minority).
https://www.fbi.gov/history/famous-cases/osage-murders-case
The Osage Tribal Council asked the federal government to send detectives to investigate. After receiving the petition in April 1923, the newly created Bureau of Investigation (the agency that would become the FBI) assigned agents to the case.
Early on, all fingers pointed at William Hale, the so-called King of the Osage Hills. Hale arrived in Oklahoma as a local cattleman, and he bribed, intimidated, lied, and stole his way to wealth and power. He grew even greedier when oil was discovered on the Osage Indian Reservation.
Solving the case was another matter. The locals weren’t talking; Hale had threatened or paid off many of them, and the rest had grown distrustful of outsiders. Hale also planted false leads that sent our agents scurrying across the Southwest.
Finally, Hale's nephew talked. Then others confessed. Agents proved that Hale ordered the murders of Anna and her family to inherit their oil rights, cousin Henry for the insurance, and others who had threatened to expose him. It's alleged they attempted to kill Mollie by poisoning her, but their attempts were unsuccessful.
In January 1929, Hale was convicted and sent to prison. His henchmen—including a hired killer and crooked lawyer—also got time.
It’s alleged they attempted to kill Mollie by poisoning her, but their attempts were unsuccessful.
I guess they didn't realize she had built up a resistance to iocaine powder.
By the way, all my snarky jokes aside, I couldn't help but notice the juxtaposition of Suderman's reflections on Scorcese's apparent lamentations on America's "systemic problems in America" and the fact that someone went to trial and was convicted of misdeeds.
As I indicated below given Scorsese's penchant for White dudes of one tribe ending up in shallow graves at the hands of White dudes from another tribe the way the Native American would do it, I'm going to need more clarity on what Suderman thinks he's saying.
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There is a moment, after Ernest has been arrested and brought in for interrogation, in which Tom White asks whether Ernest is a good man. Ernest hesitates briefly, seemingly confused, then answers hesitantly, uncertainly.
The only people who don't hesitate before answering that question are journalists and college professors.
I must say, personally, I find the notion of being married to someone, loving them, and still being motivated by enough animus to kill their family is a completely novel, utterly bizarre, and thoroughly fascinating moral conundrum.
Meh. I think I'll skip yet another Hollyweird sermon on how evil American society is.
I disagree, though I can't tell if it's Suderman's assessment or yours (I'm more than willing to give you more benefit of the doubt but, from the words written, I can't tell).
That is, there's a/the "He explores the evils inherent to American society." connotation and then there's a/the "He's an American/English language filmmaker that explores evil in society." or maybe even more accurately, "He's an American filmmaker that takes character studies written by Americans, frequently in American places or history and puts them on the big screen." connotation. Clint Eastwood does a lot of similar "character studies in American culture" without necessarily saying or trying to say "America is evil".
Which one Suderman meant, IDK, but I always get the "character studies in American culture" impression from Scorsese. His films aren't necessarily preachy or indicting, just complex character studies that are set in NYC or Boston or Las Vegas. Even The Last Temptation of Christ was considerably better and more impartial or respectfully distant than your average, low-brow "Look at me! I'm peeing on The Bible. That makes me a rebel and culturally significant!" leftist screed. Maybe he's trying to say "Look how terrible all of American culture is!" but if he is, to me, he's doing an abjectly terrible job.
That is, there’s a/the “He explores the evils inherent to American society.” connotation and then there’s a/the “He’s an American/English language filmmaker that explores evil in society.” or maybe even more accurately, “He’s an American filmmaker that takes character studies written by Americans, frequently in American places or history and puts them on the big screen.” connotation. Clint Eastwood does a lot of similar “character studies in American culture” without necessarily saying or trying to say “America is evil”.
Which one Suderman meant, IDK, but I always get the “character studies in American culture” impression from Scorsese. His films aren’t necessarily preachy or indicting, just complex character studies that are set in NYC or Boston or Las Vegas.
Valid points. I might check it out eventually, but I’m not gonna run out to the theater to see it. I was on the fence, and given that I’m more than a bit tired of the Hollywod lectures and having “The Message” shoved down my throat I may be overly sensitive to that shit. I’ll probably wait and see what some other reviewers have to say about it first.
Do read other reviews, which give great attention to the wonderful detail and authenticity of the Osage people. Osage Indians were in the movie and deeply involved in costuming, authentic culture, and language of the Osage tribe.
Suderman just seems to want to be preachy. He won't stop me from seeing a film featuring authentic life in Oklahoma back then.
Current events always make Hollywood's attempts to highlight the worst of humanity a redundant exercise.
Nothing like a Hollywood director trying to shed light on "the dark side of suburbia". Trust me, there's enough horror going on right there on Hollywood Boulevard for all the rest of America.
One post script is the government stepped in to manage the royalties and of course, screwed it all up and they got sued and had to settle for $380 million of our taxpayer dollars.
Yet another Hollywood Epic White people are BAD movie.
By continuously beating the drum about what happened 100 years ago and presenting is it it happened today, movies like this only serve to keep the wounds open.
Just More Woke Crap.
But as far as Woke Crap goes it is a masterpiece.
This is almost getting to be like a gaslighting parody.
It's not like Scorsese is some up-and-coming diversity hire director that nobody's heard of and it's not like he's some eco-hippy born again, toxic masculinity liberal like James Cameron. Plenty of people have probably seen Taxi Driver, Goodfellas, Casino, Gangs of New York, The Departed... I'd be surprised (well...) if there's a male over the age of (does math) 28 who hasn't seen Margot Robbie in The Wolf Of Wall Street.
I could understand if you don't like his style or films or the genre and I could understand if there were some concerns that this was going to be one of his lesser films being crammed through the hype machine. I could even understand how there might be concerns of "woke crap" if you could actually assemble a constellation of woke tropes from the film. But, AFAICT, all this "woke crap" stuff feels like another layered iteration of the whole staged "trolls on the internet were panning it before it came out because it was woke" promotional/review brigading bullshit.
Scorsese has always been a bien-pensant Hollywood type, as have all of his actors (De Niro and Di Caprio are both on the fringiest fringes of radical leftism). As Hollywood has moved radically to the left, so has he. It's just that in the olden days they actually used to care about making a decent vehicle for their messaging, and now they don't have to. It's not unreasonable to expect this movie will be woke dog shit, because if it was anything other than woke dog shit it wouldn't have gotten produced in the Hollywood system with the cast it has. Take off the boomer nostalgia goggles.
Looks like a great flick. I think I'd like to read the book first though. Historical movies are bound to cut details out of necessity or to fit a narrative (worst) and I know next to nothing about these events.
Anyone here read the book? Know if it was well researched?
Like The Irishman...
God I hope it is nothing like the Irishman...snore.
Looks a lot better. Agree about “The Irishman,” which needed an hour trimmed off it. Maybe two.
Just saw the movie last night. This review is excellent, it captures the conflicts at its core very well. It’s very thought-provoking. The Osage were by no means unaware or naive about what was happening. But knowing something is true and proving it are two very different propositions -- especially in the 1920s.
The Osage Headright still exists, by the way, and it’s still paying out. There is a movement afoot to return those headrights which have been passed down or gifted to non-Osage people and organizations. In 2022, each headright was worth $40k, if I’m reading it correctly.
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Just saw the movie last night. This review is excellent, it captures the conflicts at its core very well. It’s very thought-provoking. The Osage were by no means unaware or naive about what was happening. But knowing something is true and proving it are two very different propositions — especially after the 2020 election.
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Just so, and this is something that has annoyed me the most about how Trump has never stopped whining about the 2020 election irregularities. He refuses to concede that an election is a time-limited event. We go through the event, we pick a winner, and then we FREAKING MOVE ON. If we lose, we go another round the NEXT time.
"A masterful epic from one of Hollywood's most important, most ambitious filmmakers."
Scorsese is a New Yorker. I'm sure he's been to Hollywood, but his most seminal films are about New York and made in New York. Even his not so seminal films. New York, New York (1977) for example. This impulse to paint him as a creature of Hollywood is bizarre and ill-informed.
Good Fellas and Gangs of New York were way overrated.
I would think it is probably a little less less influenced by Hollywood since it premiered at Cannes. Afaik, it is more of an experimental and international festival. So it has potential beyond Hollywood formula. Such as the Harry Truman Show, years before Ed snowden, heh.
Have not seen it yet.
Every one of his movies has been financed and produced in the Hollywood system you abject fucking moron. To help you out: the "Hollywood system" refers to the movie studios and production pipeline headquartered in and around the Hollywood area of Los Angeles, California. You don't have to live in or around the Hollywood area of Los Angeles, California to have an entire career dependent on the studio system and production pipeline that's located there. Scorsese knows which side his bread is buttered on.
"To help you out: the “Hollywood system” refers to the movie studios and production pipeline headquartered in and around the Hollywood area of Los Angeles, California."
Scorsese used a non union crew for his breakthrough picture, Mean Streets. That's not the Hollywood System. The Hollywood System follows a formula. The leading actors, Keitel and De Niro, came from Off Broadway. Like Scorsese, both born and raised in New York. They were outsiders, as far as Hollywood was concerned, not part of formula until Scorsese put them there. If anywhere has a claim on Scorsese, it's New York.
I think Clint Eastwood, who got his start in TV and spaghetti westerns is another maverick artist who worked largely outside the system, and like Scorsese, ended up influencing Hollywood more than it influenced him. Kubrick, too. A New Yorker born and bred who ended up shooting almost all his films in the suburbs of London.
Interesting, the WSJ review said it's boring as fuck.
Well, they're a bunch of racist white neocon a**holes over at WSJ, so go figure.
Wall Street is in New York. Coincidence?
Geez, spoiler alert! next time, please. From the trailer I assumed DeNiro was the bad guy, and Leonardo was the progressive good guy stopping him from taking advantage of the Indians. Nice to see they are both villains.
But from the plot synopsis, it sounds like they were killing them because they had money, not because of their nationality.
Never ascribe to greed what could be ascribed through any contortion of logic to actually be motivated by racism.
There's little racism in the movie. The scheme required young men outside the tribe to marry into it. The Osage were completely aware that some were just after their money. To marry someone as smart and wary as they were, you had to have genuine feelings for them, and when you proposed, they had to say yes. This isn't your typical woke Hollywood morality tale. It's a lot more subtle.
The movie explores two aspects of evil that rarely get portrayed: evil disguised as genuine good, and evil that comes from weakness of character. Most villains in movies are just way too obvious and over-acted. Real evil, human evil, is much more subtle and much easier to hide. Human evil never acts alone, it leverages others, corrupting them, drawing them in. Human evil has to be investigated to be uncovered. Its nature is to remain hidden.
The good’ol American way in all its horror…Great Halloween movie…