California's $20 Minimum Wage Will Hurt the Fast Food Workers It's Meant To Help
Boosting minimum wages often increases unemployment and raises prices.

Last month, Gavin Newsom signed into law a California bill that will raise the minimum wage for fast food workers to $20 an hour starting in 2024. While the law has been hailed as a victory for low-wage Californians, the reality is much more complicated.
When states force industries to massively increase wages, the result isn't that the same number of employees start making more money. Instead, enacting a climbing minimum wage often results in higher unemployment and higher prices.
The law, originally Assembly Bill 1228 was passed as a compromise measure. Last September, Newsom signed the Fast Food Accountability and Standards (FAST) Recovery Act, which would have increased the minimum wage for fast workers to up to $22 an hour. In response, a campaign to get a measure to repeal the law on the 2024 ballot quickly sprang up. Ultimately, restaurant groups gathered enough signatures for the referendum.
Rather than face a ballot referendum over the law, Assembly Bill 1228 was crafted to repeal the FAST Act and replace it with a less extreme alternative following negotiations with restaurant and labor groups. The new law applies to employees working for fast food restaurants with more than 60 locations nationally, with an exception for businesses that bake their own bread.
However, even though a $20 minimum wage is less extreme than a $22 minimum, California's new fast food minimum wage will surpass the highest basic minimum wage in all other states—Washington DC's $17 minimum wage is the closest to California's new minimum for fast food workers. According to the Bureau of Labor Statistics, California fast food workers currently make $16.60 an hour on average, the third highest in the nation.
While ensuring that fast food workers get better pay may sound like a victory for the working class, there are major downsides to such high minimum wages. While things might be better for those workers who manage to keep their jobs—many business owners will likely be forced to lay off employees in order to keep the lights on or raise prices for consumers.
"The economic literature on minimum wage increases has become murkier in recent years, but the overwhelming majority of economists agree that large minimum wage increases in excess of productivity gains means that employers will operate at a loss as far as the affected workers go," wrote Michael D. Tanner, a senior fellow at the Cato Institute following the passage of the FAST act. "Given that the average profit margin in the fast food industry is just 6–9 percent, those costs are almost certain to be passed along in terms of higher prices or lost jobs."
Another side effect of California's new minimum wage law could be the acceleration in fast food companies' turn towards automation in an attempt to save on labor costs.
"Over the last few years, many Americans, myself included, have been to McDonald's and used touch screens to place our own orders instead of interacting with cashiers," wrote Brad Polumbo in the Washington Examiner this week. "Well, the more arbitrarily expensive you make human labor, the more companies are incentivized to hurry up and embrace automation."
Mandating higher and higher minimum wages for low-skilled jobs—like other government attempts to engineer labor market outcomes—ultimately rarely has its intended effect. Rather than making life better for Californians working in fast food, a new $20 minimum wage will likely cause many to lose their jobs.
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The new law applies to employees working for fast food restaurants with more than 60 locations nationally, with an exception for businesses that bake their own bread.
So, wait just a fucking hot second here. They explicitly exempted Subway!?!
Gavin likes his Chicken & Bacon Ranch Melt and it isn't always easy to get to the French Laundry
I suppose Panera counts too.
It's kind of a strange loophole. If the McDonald's franchisees there start baking their own hamburger buns, they'd be exempted as well.
It seems that McD’s would have to sell the buns separately as a product.
The notion was to exempt "bakeries that happen to sell other food", for whatever reason. So you have to sell baked goods.
Hot microwaved apple 'pies' aren't baked goods?
I think they need to be manufactured/prepared on site, not just reheated. I'm just going by what I can read.
(c) (1) Except as provided in paragraph (2), “fast food restaurant” means a limited-service restaurant in the state that is part of a national fast food chain.
(2) “Fast food restaurant” shall not include an establishment that on September 15, 2023, operates a bakery that produces for sale on the establishment’s premises bread, as defined under Part 136 of Subchapter B of Chapter I of Title 21 of the Code of Federal Regulations, so long as it continues to operate such a bakery. This exemption applies only where the establishment produces for sale bread as a stand-alone menu item, and does not apply if the bread is available for sale solely as part of another menu item.
I guess bread-baking robots aren't ready for widespread deployment yet.
They said bread. I don’t know if Subway counts because it doesn't smell like bread when you walk in.
No.
"This exemption applies only where the establishment produces for sale bread as a stand-alone menu item, and does not apply if the bread is available for sale solely as part of another menu item."
You can't buy a loaf of bread at Subway.
I thought all bakers were gay.
Yeah, my thought on that exemption was: What the fuck! Why?
Maine has a snack tax, but products with flour are exempt. So Snickers gets taxed while Twix does not.
No, the exempted Panera Bread. At the moment, Subway does not meet the requirement. But they and others probably will PDQ.
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It's unclear how restaurant chains like Panera Bread came to be exempt from the fast-food law.
"That's part of the sausage-making," Newsom said when asked about the quirky exemption during a press conference.
An establishment that bakes bread for sale on its premises is not considered a fast-food restaurant, the new law states. "This exemption applies only where the establishment produces for sale bread as a stand-alone menu item, and does not apply if the bread is available for sale solely as part of another menu item."
"(2) “Fast food restaurant” shall not include an establishment that on September 15, 2023, operates a bakery that produces for sale on the establishment’s premises bread"
So no changing business models for you - - - - - - - -
It appears that way....
Even mediocre lawyers shoot for $300/hour – you know, those who finished in the bottom quartile of the class and passed the bar exam on the fourth try. Few would describe these people as other than an ugly and foul-smelling scab on the ass of mankind.
There is no reason in the world to expect a highly qualified, skilled, well-trained and motivated burger-assembler to work for less than the sub-average ham-an-egger lawyer. Some of those people have been sat on through multiple training videos on the best and most caring way to assemble a hamburger to provide the customer with the peak flavor experience. In addition, especially in woke states, these paragons of culinary skill have devoted hundreds of hours of their lives to anti-racist, critical theory, and feminist training sessions condemnatory of toxic patriarchy required of all employees But these highly qualified, skilled, well-trained and motivated, and correct thinking burger-builders are to be expected to work for 1/15th of what a joke of a lawyer would earn each hour. Gaining poor mastery of a few Latin phrases is not worth that pay differential.
So the only fair thing to do is to pay all burger-builders $300/hr. Now let’s negotiate what the cashiers should get – those paragons of honest virtue whom we entrust with the accurate transmission of our food preference and the handing of hundreds of dollars of cash each day.
I suspect you haven't been to a fast food establishment lately.
The only thing they hate more than paying a person to take your order is paying someone to deal with cash.
You will order in the app or screen, and you will pay with card.
So let it be written, so let it be done.
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Went to a McD's a few weeks ago for a McMuffin. Since they fuck you in the drive through, I went inside, as I always do.
Stood there at the counter for several minutes. Eventually someone came up to the front to tell me "You have to order through the kiosk."
I left.
Wait 'til all the kiosks are unionized.
I did too....
If you never saw a show called "Loudermilk" starring Ron Livingston, you should probably seek it out.
Now that a burger, fries, and coke in L.A. costs anywhere from $12.50-$18.00, the paying with a card isn't too bad of a deal (especially with the cards that kick back 2% cash).
They would still kick back 2% on a burger and fries in flyover country for $6.
"...There is no reason in the world to expect a highly qualified, skilled, well-trained and motivated burger-assembler to work for less than the sub-average ham-an-egger lawyer..."
Sarc or abysmal stupidity?
Soon to be hundreds of dollars of cash for each transaction.
>>Mandating higher and higher minimum wages for low-skilled jobs ... ultimately rarely has its intended effect.
catching on yet or headed towards career leftist author?
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Personally it is great for me!
With a Burger combo at Jack-in-the-Box currently in the $16 dollar range here in the SF Bay Area, I've reduced what I buy there by about 80%.
Upping the unskilled wage to $20 will ensure that I eat even less junk food.
Combine diet and exercise; walk away from California eating trail mix.
Walk for more than 4 hours eating nothing but trail mix, and you'll end up in Boulder. 3 hours if your trail mix is just old school GORP.
I'm not going to bash Boulder, I grew up in Denver and still have family there, but other than the altitude and the weather, it's not really a change from living in California.
Newsom, "If your labors aren't worth $22/hr. YOU don't get a job period!!!". Tomorrow: We don't understand why only 1/3 of US citizens are working at all anymore and the state is poverty stricken.
F'En dumb*ss Nazi's.
It’s CA – everybody get universal income. How they pay for it? Shrug, not their issue.
Next month, Newsom signs legislation that prohibits any fast food restaurant with more than 60 employees nationwide from firing any employees.
So are Union workers exempt?
There are other provisions, including a 10 person committee that gets to tell franchisees how to run their stores, handle their workers, and set wages.
The idea is to make all corporate stores, run franchisees out. Or to make franchisees have to operate via corporate diktats. Then they can unionize against one giant corporation instead of a bunch of individual franchisees.
As with Newsome's Senate appointment, it's all payback to the Unions who finance his campaigns.
I did too....
Just wait till he's president....
$20 is insulting, it should be at least $50 and raised by $50 a year for the next 5 years.
Why do you hate the poors? It should be a million dollars an hour! That way you work one hour and are now a millionaire!
Isn't that how it works in Zimbabwe or Venezuela?
No. Things cost Z$1billion, but you still make Z$2.47 per hour.
So basically what will happen here in a few years if the democrats stay in power?
I still have a few $1,000,000 bills from Zimbabwe
But then they will have to pay taxes, so - - - - - - - -
California's $20 Minimum Wage Will Hurt the Fast Food Workers It's Meant to Help
$15 Now$20 Now! will hurt the Fast Food Workers it's meant to Help.This is the headline of a movement that's being steamrolled like a mother fucker.
The real victims of the new policy will likely be local, family-run restaurants; they're exempted because they can't defray the extra costs in some of the ways that larger chains can, but if they're paying less then why would any potential worker take a job there?
What urban area doesn't have sufficient turnover in McJobs, that they're almost always hiring somewhere, if not everywhere? About the only equalizer between the two (if the smaller places aren't already paying $20/hr anyway due to local cost of living being so high) is that people making $20/hr will ultimately just get a little less in public assistance (Section 8 subsidy, SNAP/EBT, Obamaphone, EITC, etc) so that if they're over 23 (or is it 26 for EITC?) they'll both end up with around the same amount at the end of the month, or maybe the $20/hr people could even end up with a little less due to compounding loss of benefits.
I was shocked at how fast the goal posts moved from $15 to $20 as well. What would you say is the odds on, this time next year, presidential candidate Gavin Newsom (Biden unexpectedly kicks the bucket or something) will be proposing a $30 national minimum wage? 5%? 10%? 25%?
It's all a war on small businesses,the essence of freedom.
"the more arbitrarily expensive you make human labor, the more companies are incentivized to hurry up and embrace automation"
Maybe that's the real point here. Maybe California politicians have taken bribes from the automatic checkout industry!
Who knew our True Libertarian Cyberpunk future would come to fruition via sky-high minimum wages! $30 Now! Transhumanism, here we come!
The great irony of minimum wage is that the people who originally created it were economically literate. This was back when racism was acceptable and euthanasia was all the rage.
So politicians created a price floor on labor for the express purpose of pricing undesirables out of the workforce. They figured they'd clean up the gene pool a bit by preventing retards, freed slaves, and other deplorables from getting work. And it worked. People starved to death because of minimum wage laws.
Fast forward to today and proponents of minimum wage really believe they are helping the very people who they harm.
I seem to remember some kind of ferrous metal guideline that foreseeable consequences were not unintended.
There's also Hanlon's razor: "Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity."
The opposite is employed in these comments of course. Everything is attributed to malice. But that's because most here are tribal monkeys pooping into their hands and throwing at each other.
Has anyone correlated increased minimum wage and homelessness?
I don't know about that, but I have heard about correlations between zoning and homelessness. Specifically boarding houses and such where a person could just rent a room. Now the minimum legal standard for a rental is much more than that. It's like politicians and voters think they can make us rich by outlawing options for the poor.
you did.
Just remember, every $1 increase in minimum wage is at least 15.3 cents in federal payroll tax revenues.
And California has different payrolls taxes that also get paid.
UI tax is 3.4% to 6.2%.
SDI tax is 1%.
ETT is 0.1% on first $7000.
Step 1 CA State Democrats raise fast food minimum wage to $20/hr.
Step 2 Unionize fast food workers
Step 3 Union donates dues to incumbent CA State Democrats
Step 4 Union negotiates wage increase with state’s approval
This guy Democrat Machine’s.
Looking at that photo, I imagine that even paid $20 an hour, the only way any of those people will ever share a dining room with Newsom will be as wait staff.
"...Another side effect of California's new minimum wage law could be the acceleration in fast food companies' turn towards automation in an attempt to save on labor costs..."
You really need to spell out results like this; Newsom isn't real bright.
Why not $25?
Samanez liars tell me that women only make $.70 on the dollar for every man investigating so California should just hire all women pay them less, right?! ha ha ha ha Feminist liars and the wage gap lie! We all said that the fight for 15 would result in jobs lost - and it did! These fucking idiots are trying the same thing again to take
political votes, to take power and money away from the people.
It probably will raise prices of things, but shouldn't it?
You've basically asking the poor to subsidize (through their labor) food and other items for yes, other poor people, but also middle class and rich people.
"A number of mixed entities were formed, called instituti or enti nazionali, whose purpose it was to bring together representatives of the government and of the major businesses. These representatives discussed economic policy and manipulated prices and wages so as to satisfy both the wishes of the government and the wishes of business. The government considered this arrangement to be a success and Italian Fascists soon began to pride themselves on this outcome, saying they had survived the Great Depression without infringing on private property.
During and after the Spanish Civil War, Franco and the Falange created a corporative system based on the Italian model. An economic system was implemented according to the wishes of the corporations, which also set prices and wages. Combined with autarky and in the absence of Marshall Plan aid after World War II, Spain's post-war economic growth stagnated. The Spanish corporative system was less successful than the Italian experience. At one point, the Spanish farmers' corporation created a massive bread shortage by setting the price too low. As a result, bread production was abandoned in favour of other, more profitable goods. Although the aim of this policy was to make bread accessible to the poorest among the population, the opposite occurred and a black market emerged.
As in Italy, wages were set by the state in negotiations between officially recognized workers' syndicates and employers' organizations, with the state as mediator.
Jurgen Kuczynski characterizes a fascist economy as a type of "monopoly capitalism", which preserves the "fundamental traits of capitalist production", such as the fact that production is carried out for the market by privately owned firms which employ workers for a certain wage.
(See: Fascism)
Fascist governments encouraged the pursuit of private profit and offered many benefits to large businesses, but they demanded in return that all economic activity should serve the interest of the state.
A few will make $20, more will have their salary reduced to zero. Miso Robotics making automatic burger flipping machines and fry stations.
Used to be American teenagers did these jobs. Today you can't find any in fast food chains. Today they're all staffed by immigrants.
So good news, Rethuglicans, your dreams have come true in Kalifornia! Now no one be able to afford to hire an immigrant! Of course we will get fully automated fast food chains. If we get to keep any at all. Talk about service!
Bottom rung jobs have been outlawed. And everyone who hates the economy is now cheering!
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Yes, you can thank Democrats for destroying the entry into the job market for millions of American kids, condemning them to a lifetime of debt and government dependence.
Yes, by Democrats. But somehow you still blame "Rethuglicans".
Actually, both of those would be improvements.
From https://www.cbo.gov/publication/55681
You can say you don't believe anything from the CBO, but historically they have been a pretty data-driven branch. The people who don't believe in a minimum wage won't believe the report because it goes against their religion. Here is the money quote IMO:
"How would increasing the minimum wage affect the number of people in poverty? By boosting the income of low-wage workers with jobs, a higher minimum wage would lift some families’ income above the poverty threshold and thereby reduce the number of people in poverty. But low-wage workers who lost employment would see their earnings decrease, and in some cases their family income would fall below the poverty threshold. The first effect would tend to be larger than the second, so the number of people in poverty would generally fall."
When you raise the minimum wage to $20/h, companies will only hire people who are worth $20/h into those jobs. Those people were likely making $20/h already. People who are not worth $20/h will exit the labor market. Since turnover in fast food is very rapid, this happens almost immediately. Wages don't get "lifted".
If wages did get "lifted", this would be compensated for by inflation. Since fast food joints are popular among low income families, this would hit that population particularly hard.
The CBO analysis is complete b.s.
There, FTFY
Who cares. If $20/hour is good then $50/hour would be even better. They are positive there will always be enough wealthy people in the Communist State of California to pay for whatever minimum wage they come up with. Right up until there isn't.
Automation is now fairly common in Asian fusion places that dominate the So Cal food scene. Boba shops now outnumber any America fast food joints by a 2 to 1 margin, if not more.
I suspect that the "baked bread" exemptions were meant for Asian joints. Paris Baguette, 85, Smoking Tiger, Tous les jurs, Old Ferry Donuts - all Korean and Taiwanese bread shops. These and smaller knockoffs are sprouting everywhere here now.
Mcdonalds might want to consider joining in the Boba game in So Cal. Tea plus powered milk and flavoring is probably less than 50 cents, but it's sold for like 5,6 bucks. If you build Boba, Asians will come. Like Zombies.
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Replace all of the fast food workers with illegals.
Done!
Like, 20 year ago.
Californians would be much freer if the Marxist democrat state government were removed and martial law implemented.
I spent half my lunch break yesterday waiting for a couple of illegals to figure out the kiosk self-ordering system at my local fast food establishment.
I still remember when these were entry level jobs and not career jobs.
I still remember when these were entry level jobs AND there were career paths for young people that didn't involve massive student debt.
A two-income household where both work a full time job at $20/hr will still be grossing less than the local "poverty line" in SF and L.A. In SF, the two combined would be under the poverty line for a single person, and might not be able to afford a studio apartment without a third income (uber, lyft, and doordash side-hustles would be a non-option since they wouldn't be able to afford a car, either).
CA might get a pass on this one and be able to point to a lack of detrimental unintended consequences. It's possible that few, if any such restaurants in the major cities were paying below that rate already, especially with In-n-Out pulling up the "market" rate for burger jobs in the area.
Casual laborers hired in front of a Home Depot won't take $20/hr in most parts of L.A. these days. Last time I hired a couple to help unload a trailer of furniture (maybe 6-7 years ago), I think I had to pay $60 and had them back at the same spot less than an hour after doing the negotiation.
That was before minimum wage erased the concept of entry level jobs. Minimum wage is actually designed to keep "undesirable" workers out to the market. The first minimum wage was pushed by unions to prevent blacks from competing with the union by offering to work at less than union rates.
And I still remember when most kids, even from middle class families, expected to work shitty jobs.
There still are, plenty, if you're smart enough to take them.
In fact, the majority of students graduate with no student debt.
Check that. Can fast food workers even do more than 30 hr/week at any one job after Obamacare moved the limit for "part time" work?
On the upside, two people each working two $20/hr jobs at 30 hr/wk will actually be able to break above the local poverty line in CA cities for one person. Not sure about for two people, though.
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