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Congress

Bring It On

Plus: War with cartels, France-level union activity, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 10.4.2023 9:30 AM

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Last night, Rep. Kevin McCarthy (R–Calif.) was ousted as speaker of the House by a coalition comprised of Democrats and a faction of far-right Republicans, led by Rep. Matt Gaetz (R–Fl.), breaking with their party. In other words, this—tweeted in response to Gaetz's threats—didn't age well:

Bring it on.

— Kevin McCarthy (@SpeakerMcCarthy) October 2, 2023

The final vote was 216-210, and the House floor was a chaotic mess for much of yesterday, plagued by Republican-on-Republican fighting. Now, the chamber is technically leaderless, and any election to replace McCarthy—who served as speaker for only 269 days, the shortest term in 140 years, and was the first in history to be involuntarily removed—will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating. The stopgap measure that was just passed this past weekend to avoid a government shutdown is only good until mid-November, at which point longer-term spending bills will need to be passed to keep the government funded (ugh) in fiscal year 2024.

On one level, the fact that this Gaetz-led faction is animated about reining in government spending is actually heartening. On another, it's unclear what good, exactly, will come from this. "In many ways, this is a referendum on whether the House is going to try regular order or not, because the next speaker…is not going to say 'oh, if only we had tried more regular order, this could have worked out,'" Rep. Thomas Massie (R–Ky.) told Reason's Eric Boehm. "The next speaker is going to go back to the Old Testament…and we're going to devolve to the former method, which was an omnibus bill every year and gang warfare to try and get your thing in the omnibus bill." 

Regular order, in Boehm's words, "means that Congress should bring each of its 12 annual spending bills to the floor via the process that everyone learns in civics class: with committees voting on what to include in each, then amendments, and debate on the House floor before a final vote." Congress hasn't successfully done this on time in my lifetime (literally), but McCarthy agreed to return to that system, under pressure from the House Freedom Caucus.

"Regular order is not only a process, it is also a state of mind," wrote NPR's Ron Elving back in 2017. "It implies not only procedures but also a presumption of at least some degree of bipartisanship."

On the other hand, popular consensus is that McCarthy was a weak and ineffective leader. If his own party finds the compromises he brokered to be intolerable, and has greater ambitions to cut wasteful or excessive government programs, maybe it's fair to get him the heck out of dodge.

Kevin McCarthy has been ousted as speaker. Nobody knows how this will play out in the short run, but it's a huge positive for the institution and the American people in the long run. The speaker of the House must be held accountable.

— Justin Amash (@justinamash) October 3, 2023

.@JamaalBowmanNY Can you please end this charade. You know what to do.

— Stephen L. Miller (@redsteeze) October 3, 2023

Meanwhile, the infighting will live on to see another day:

Chip Roy goes after Gaetz: "You want to come at me and call me a RINO you can kiss my ass! You go around talking your big game and thumping your chest on Twitter. Come in my office and have a debate mother —-!" pic.twitter.com/mk6Qv6PfC6

— Ron Filipkowski (@RonFilipkowski) October 3, 2023

After talking to a few House Republican lawmakers and aides, i would not be surprised to see someone move to have Gaetz expelled from the House Republican Conference

— Jake Sherman (@JakeSherman) October 3, 2023

McCarthy unloads on Matt Gaetz. Says "it was all about his ethics" probe and "personal" vendetta against him. Says he's not a conservative and just wanted to fundraise.

Separately, McCarthy won't say if he will stay in Congress. pic.twitter.com/ZI6wOfscgc

— Manu Raju (@mkraju) October 3, 2023

McCarthy said late Tuesday that he wouldn't run for speaker again. As of now, the post is vacant, and it's unclear who may seek to fill it. Rep. Patrick T. McHenry (R–N.C.) will preside over the next speaker election. Some names have come up as possible contenders: Oklahoma's Tom Cole, Louisiana's Steve Scalise, and Minnesota's Tom Emmer, as well as McHenry. Since the speaker does not need to be a member of the body, some members of Congress have proposed the maximally chaotic option: appointing Donald Trump to the position.

Time to stop telling people about the degrees you DON'T have and tell prospective employers about the degree you do have (marketing). https://t.co/DRyjL9GeHF

— Ben Dreyfuss (@bendreyfuss) October 3, 2023

Are we becoming France? Or Finland? (I can't imagine a worse fate.)

More than 75,000 health care workers are planning to walk off the job after negotiations with Kaiser Permanente failed to achieve the gains they had hoped for. This will be the largest strike of health care workers in U.S. history. (For those keeping track: actors are still striking, Hollywood writers just finished, autoworkers are still going, pharmacists in Kansas City just won't come to work, and Las Vegas hospitality workers have had enough.)

An observation: Lots of publications will mention a laundry list of things picketers are demanding, with "higher wages" thrown in there almost as an afterthought, and very little detail about how high workers want those wages to go. But I doubt wages are an afterthought, I bet they're the crux of most negotiations—whether or not those striking care to admit it—and journalists reporting on union activity should be very clear about facts and figures.

In keeping with that: The unionized Kaiser employees are looking for a four-year contract with pay hikes of 7 percent during the first two years and 6.25 percent in subsequent years, with bonuses (of up to 3 percent of their wages) each year.

Don't get incensed! Today, the October Synod commences. Bishops from around the world will meet in the Vatican, where Pope Francis will allow discussion of contentious issues within the Roman Catholic Church, including celibacy and marriage for priests, whether female deacons ought to be permitted, the blessing of gay couples, and whether divorced people should receive the sacraments. 

For the first time ever, 70 lay people—including women—will cast votes on the direction of the Church alongside the bishops. The New York Times calls this "a concrete shift toward the democratization of the church, a central tenet of the Francis papacy that views the abuse of power in an aloof hierarchy as the cause of many of the church's problems."


Scenes from New York: 

NYT readers are mostly not part of the gender cult or the equity cult — no one is other than those who directly derive their livings grifting off of it (the entire nonprofit Borg and the staffers who run the Democratic Party and affiliated institutions, a distinct class unto… https://t.co/jVr5gZzcJ2

— Wesley Yang (@wesyang) October 3, 2023


QUICK HITS

  • I'm just grateful I don't have that tattoo! 

Someone, somewhere, has this tattoo. https://t.co/3Cx7dxOtw5

— Matt Welch (@MattWelch) October 3, 2023

  • I recommend this episode of Blocked and Reported: "An introduction to cripplepunk, which is totally different from and exactly the same as every other online social justice community."
  • Really good thread on restaurant economics and the tips-as-wages system.
  • A quick history of the way going to war with Mexican cartels evolved from a Donald Trump pipedream to standard debate-stage fare.
  • This is actually adorable:

As a summer intern many years ago, I wrote software for video games at a company called Rocket Science. This was long before SpaceX was even conceived.

Didn't realize until a friend gave me a copy today that they included me in the credits ???? pic.twitter.com/adU1J81ESq

— Elon Musk (@elonmusk) October 3, 2023

  • Reason's Stephanie Slade went on Ezra Klein's show (which David French hosted) to talk about the "new right."
  • Per Axios: "Hunter Biden pleaded not guilty Tuesday in a federal court in Wilmington, Delaware to three counts related to his alleged illegal possession of a firearm."
  • How productive are employees who work from home? Really productive, actually, and even more firms and workers are gravitating toward WFH or hybrid-work permanence: "Despite a rocky start, work from home appears to have stabilized at around 25% of work days overall and stunningly, nearly 40% of work days for college educated workers!" writes Alex Tabarrok at Marginal Revolution. "Work from home thus appears to be a permanent and beneficial change in how work is structured."

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  1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

    will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.

    And everyone knows that if there's one central libertarian value, it's the importance of politicians legislating without interruption.

    1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

      The world needs more fire alarms at legislators' desks.

      Next on their cell phones, which of course trigger a fire alarm in the legislature building, not in the cell phone. Unless they're Samsung Note 7s of course.

      1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

        Can we get a Robocop anti-theft device styled version that activates the fire alarm by setting the legislator on fire? That would really help.

        1. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

          It's probably too late to recycle those Note 7s now. What a shame!

    2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.

      This was the first thing I noticed in the article, as well.
      The last we need is them legislating.
      For all I care, congress can have knife fights live on CSpan. I might even watch it.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        For all I care, congress can have knife fights live on CSpan. I might even watch it.

        Welcome back to the 1850s.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Or early mornings in NYC.

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD 2: Steampunk Boogaloo   2 years ago

          There can be only one!

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            I wish.
            🙂
            😉

          2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            I have access to a Thunderdome. I can get this set up.

            1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

              Bust a deal, face the wheel!!!

      2. Anomalous   2 years ago

        I began to have hope that Liz was libertarian. Alas, my dream has been shattered.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Well, somebody has to be there to do the repealing, cutting, and selling off of assets...if only they would.

      3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        For all I care, congress can have knife fights live on CSpan.

        At this point, let's just choose all of our leaders through ritual combat to the death. It would certainly solve the problem of so many old people in positions of power (at some point old people can't fight anymore). Plus, based on that documentary, Black Panther, I can only assume that choosing our leaders that way would lead to a glorious utopia. You know, assuming one's definition of utopia is an isolationist ethno-state protected by a high tech shield/ border wall to keep out the undesirables.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          I always ask people with T-Shirts sporting The Black Panther: "Are you sure you could hang with Wakanda? It don't sound like too friendly a place."
          🙂
          😉

    3. Minadin   2 years ago

      If they spend the rest of the session deadlocked trying to elect a new Speaker, it will be better than them passing any more appropriations bills.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        ^^^ THIS ^^^^

    4. Zeb   2 years ago

      There are constitutionally valid things they should be doing. Getting back to a more reasonable budget process seems worthwhile, for example.
      Maybe the whole thing is too fucked to be redeemed and ineffective chaos is the best we can hope for. But not doing the normal budget process certainly hasn't made the federal government any more libertarian of fiscally sane.

      1. Bill Dalasio   2 years ago

        Except, even when they've had all the time in the world and complete order and the leadership firmly in charge, they didn't have a normal or reasonable budget process. You can't blame that on Gaetz.

        1. Zeb   2 years ago

          No, I'm not trying to blame anyone for anything. Only saying that it's not obviously unlibertarian to say that there is some legislating that congress should do. Whether you want a progressive welfare state or constitutional limited government, some legislating is going to be necessary.

    5. DesigNate   2 years ago

      Apparently I’m the only one who read that sarcastically.

      1. mulched   2 years ago

        I read all Liz's posts sarcastically. She's earned that assumption.

      2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        Nope. I’m hoping that it was sarcasm, but it was a bit ambiguous.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Some of the best sarcasm usually is.

  2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "NYT readers are mostly not part of the gender cult or the equity cult"

    I often agree with Wes Yang but I'm not convinced this is true.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Maybe not part of the cult, but they condone the cultists.

      1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

        They’re cult adjacent.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Enablers at the very least.

        2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

          With the cult or FROM the cult?

          1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

            Agree to disagree.

          2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            Yes.
            🙂
            😉

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      I often agree with Wes Yang but I’m not convinced this is true.

      The whole thing comes across as very Crazy Plane Lady-style "That motherfucker isn't real"-
      NYT: Publishes something.
      Commentor: Most liked comment, "They's rearranging deckchairs on the Titanic."
      Yang: Nuh uh. Most NYT readers aren't a part of the cult.

      It's like the guy behind you in line at the grocery store saying, "I swear I'm not a part of a cult, but the lady in front of you who has an apple in one hand and a receipt for an apple in the other hand didn't actually buy an apple. The store just generated a receipt to make it *look* like she bought an apple."

    3. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago (edited)

      If the collection of words and syllables known as “Gender affirming care” ever fall out of your sour little mug, in that order, you are part of the cult.

      Particularly, it it's not prefaced with: The following concept does not exist:

  3. Minadin   2 years ago

    "How productive are employees who work from home? Really productive, actually,"

    Unless you're a carpenter, or a coal miner, or a chef, or . . .

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      I love how she makes that assertion then backs it up with nothing but employees like it. Sorry sweetie, that is like asking "how healthy are desserts for children?" and backing it up with a preference for sweets at dinner among children.

      1. Minadin   2 years ago

        The pajama class bugs the shit out of me.

        They assume everyone can live just like them. And then they're the first people to complain when the checkout lanes aren't fully staffed at the grocer.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Or they go to stores with self-checkout lanes.

        2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          And all the while treat the hired help like shit when the hired help is there.

        3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          Actually, all the ones I know use delivery - - - - - - - -

          1. markm23   2 years ago (edited)

            I’ve never worked in a job that could be done remotely – even as a $75,000 a year manufacturing engineer, I needed to be hands-on the hardware – but I prefer delivery to trips to the store. When I _have_ to go to the store, I prefer self-checkout for a few items, but a cashier for a cart load. Self-checkout has trouble with some items, and also seems to randomly glitch, so the more items, the more chance self-checkout will leave me standing there waiting for a human being.

            And I make sure to treat the cashier well. I’ve never worked such jobs, because I’d rather dig ditches. My autism or whatever it is does not go well with customer contact, but growing up in a tourist town meant I had many friends in service jobs, and I saw far too many @r$e&0le$ mistreating them. Cashiers, waitresses, bell-hops, etc., are generally good people building a resume to get a better job, and they deserve good treatment.

  4. (Impeach Robert L. Peters) Weigel's Cock Ring   2 years ago

    I guess Reason is now officially on record that if you're opposed to $2 trillion annual deficits you're "far right". That'll be news to an awful lot of libertarians out there.

    Good fucking riddance to the worthless backstabbing piece of shit weasel who cut a secret deal with democrats to give the president a blank check to borrow and spend as much money for the duration of his term as he chants to for the first time in living memory.

    I'm so fucking tired of these fake ass Stockholm Syndrome republicans stabbing their voters and America in the back, I've had enough of it. Don't let the door hit you ass on your way out of the Speaker's office, cocksucker.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Mikey, no one in Washington DC was ever going to cut spending. You're so naive.

      But what we do have now is true gridlock. At least until Jan 2025. Then it is possible that one party rule returns (Republicans) and then you should resume your pants-shitting.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Well if Pluggo wanted to retain McCarthy then it's probably good he's gone.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Complains about not cutting spending, complains when people take action to force cutting spending. Shrike is a silly little pedo.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        Don't forget that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          For the sake of even greater precision, "lefty shit" should be changed to "fascist shit". It's not wrong but we may as well define the branch.

    2. Zeb   2 years ago

      What makes you think the establishment republicans are the fake ones? The history of the party doesn't really support the idea that they are a small government sort of party. As much as I would like the more liberty oriented and fiscally restrained part of the party to be the "real" party, I'm afraid it just isn't.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        What makes you think the establishment republicans are the fake ones? The history of the party doesn’t really support the idea that they are a small government sort of party.

        You kind of inadvertently answered your own question.

        Establishment Democrats: Spend to the moon.
        Result: Spending to the moon
        Establishment Republicans: Stop spending to the moon.
        Result: Spending to the moon.
        Non-establishment republicans: Stop fucking SAYING you'll stop spending to the moon, and then giving the establishment Democrats everything they want.

        Media on non-establishment republicans: Racists.

        1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

          Result: Spending to the moon.

  5. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/TheRealZBlog/status/1709229137255170314?t=hdMaIhY5uhTB_dvMXHj9jg&s=19

    Next spring they put Trump in jail then seize his assets and those of his associates. The GOP purges people like Gaetz from the party. The great consolidation will be complete with the Haley - Scott ticket winning the November election.

    [Link]

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      The Federalist had an article yesterday saying Haley was the GOPs version of Hillary. Was pretty funny.

    2. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      So, you think civil war is off the table?

      1. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

        Nardo is a bot quoting other posts; it doesn't "think"...

  6. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/autistocrates/status/1709520614090813511?t=ltZzq11Q5fLwJFXWmJojQA&s=19

    "It is also the habit of tyrants to prefer the company of foreigners to that of citizens at table and in society; citizens, they feel, are enemies, but foreigners will offer no opposition." - Aristotle.

    [Link]

  7. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Biden admin is trying to erase the history that they ever pushed covid mandates.

    https://legalinsurrection.com/2023/10/biden-administration-desperate-to-erase-memory-of-covid-mandates/

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Of course, and the MSM will be happy to assist.

      Gaslighting is their business.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Mike to declaim his personal support for mandates in 3... 2... 1...

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Holy fucking shit.

  8. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Males dominate woman's tech conference claiming to be non binary.

    https://twitter.com/rottengirl/status/1709195019792318622

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Nobody could've predicted that!

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        I find it absolutely hilarious.

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      So if you flip flop fast enough, you actually can bite yourself in the ass?

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      Make them play by their own rules. Ironically that is commie Saul Alinsky's rule. ha.

  9. Longtobefree   2 years ago

    " . . . but McCarthy agreed to return to that system, under pressure from the House Freedom Caucus."

    And then failed to deliver on that promise, and got fired.
    Deal with it.

    1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      ^^^ THIS ^^^

  10. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Since the speaker does not need to be a member of the body, some members of Congress have proposed the maximally chaotic option: appointing Donald Trump to the position.

    That could be a very entertaining choice, if not for anything else but the reactions and temper tantrums Democrats would have hourly.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      It would be EPIC!!!

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        One of the more beautiful things about it is that it puts Trump second in line for the Presidency, should something happen to both Harris (1st in line) and Biden. That, by itself, should be enough to make Democrats' heads explode.

  11. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    Now, the chamber is technically leaderless, and any election to replace McCarthy ... will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.

    So, what's the downside? If they're not legislating they're not fucking things up.

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      "When Congress is in session no American is safe."
      -Mark Twain

    2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      “But think of the norms! My god, won’t someone please think of the NORMS!”

      - buttplugs buddy Sam Harris.

  12. JesseAz   2 years ago

    will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.

    Is it really valuable?

    McCarthy won the position by agreeing to certain terms for securing the role. One of those was not passing a CR and returning to regular order. He failed. Another was to reduce spending by 1% of 2022 spending and another 1% cut if they didn't pass appropriation bills on time. He failed. Massie said he only voted for McCarthy due to those two requirements. So Massie should have voted to expel.

    The removal actually ensures the promises are met at least temporarily regarding no more CRs.

    This move also let's the next speaker know they will be held accountable for working with dems to undermine the promises made to the GOP caucus. I know people hate political accountability, but how about giving it a try for once.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Justin Amash
      @justinamash
      ·
      Follow
      Kevin McCarthy has been ousted as speaker. Nobody knows how this will play out in the short run, but it’s a huge positive for the institution and the American people in the long run. The speaker of the House must be held accountable.

      Wow. I agree with Amash.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Stopped clock, etc...

    2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Never trust a pol from California or Illinois.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      The problem is that the big concession was to go back to the 12 separate spending bills instead of doing the omnibus hokey-pokey. Where the fuck were any of these 12 separate bills?

      I get kicking him out for going back on his word, but they didn't really leave him with much choice by not putting on their big boy pants and putting together some actual spending bills for him to push through. And yeah, that's partially his fault because he's a jellyfish and wasn't forcing the issue--say what you will about Pelosi, but she ran her caucus with an iron fist and as a master at getting everyone in line--but if these guys want to force concessions from their Speaker, they need to hold up their end of the bargain, too.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        You should look on which Mccarthy allies are on the budget committee.

  13. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    "Reason's Stephanie Slade went on Ezra Klein's show (which David French hosted) to talk about the "new right.""

    20 years ago no self-respecting libertarian would have been giving aid and comfort to arch-neocon David French.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

      French is an acceptable substitute host for Ezra Klein? Ah, he is in the “strange new respect” phase in moving from conservative to progressive.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        He was never conservative, just a neo-con.

    2. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      So nothing has changed with those qualifiers.

    3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

      It’s also a great example of how the current political realignment is going, with the prudish neocon right melding seamlessly with the indulgent bourgeoisie left, both of whom are longing for a return to 2000s-era American politics out of a blinkered sense of nostalgia for the good old days when the right operated under their limited gentleman’s agreement to only press on defense spending, tax cuts, and gun laws.

  14. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Unintended consequences to ensue.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/california/article_404d98bc-623e-11ee-bafe-ff8151a16a38.html

    AB 1228 not only raises California’s minimum wage for fast food workers to $20 per hour starting in April of 2024 (the state overall minimum wage will rise to $16 per hour in 2024), and allows a new Fast Food Council to establish working conditions and minimum wages that would rise each year by the lesser of 3.5% or the past year’s inflation recorded in the Consumer Price Index. The council will be able to make decisions on “conditions” regarding employees’ health, safety and security, and their right to take time off. Wages could be set by the council at a statewide basis, or take regional differences into account. This means regions such as Southern California, which hosts the highest minimum wage in the nation in West Hollywood at $19.08 per hour, would face even higher wage increases than the rest of the state.

    “My prediction is these businesses will not shut down but will be operated more by automation, and [operators] will scale back their number of stores. Many stores, especially in disadvantaged areas, may find it difficult to survive, so they’ll throw up their hands and focus on other stores they operate,” Kabateck told The Center Square.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      One thing many people don't get is that fast food restaurants are franchises. The big corporations do the advertising, but the stores themselves are mom and pop outfits. So while legislators make a show out of sticking it to evil corporations, they're really sticking it to small businesses.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Who are these many people? Maybe cite a survey of these people who don't know. Maybe your idiot friends are representative samples?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Anecdotally, I've come across a number of people who don't understand the difference between a franchise and a corporately owned operation. Usually it's with gasoline where they fail to comprehend that the name on the sign (BP, Shell, Exxon, etc.) is a franchise, be it an independent or a jobber. They seem to think that the stores all have one corporate owner.

          That said, some fast food/quick serve are not franchises such as White Castle. All of their restaurants are corporately owned.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            But do you have a poll? Something official to cite? No? Then according to JesseAz you're an idiot with idiot friends who is just making stuff up.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              So you did lie about muting me.

              Lol. I know almost no people who don't understand what franchises are. Maybe choose smarter friends?

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)
          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            So you lied about muting me yesterday. Lol.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              I was curious because I thought for a moment that you might have replied in good faith.

              I was of course incorrect.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Nope. You lied. As you do here daily. And thought an edit would cover up the lie. Lol.

                1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  I sincerely hope to read about you dying in a fire someday.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    Ideas!

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      And such a hypocrite he will continue to complain about others violent wishes. Lol.

              2. R Mac   2 years ago

                How many times have you told this story?

        3. DesigNate   2 years ago

          To be fair, obviously Democrats and their politicians don’t understand that.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        They get it. They don't care.

        To quote one Seattle city council member during our $20 Now debates: If you can't afford the minimum, then you shouldn't be in business.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Soooo...helping the Proletariat by creating food deserts. Dr. Sowell was right. Life is trade-offs.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      You can rest assured the "Fast Food Council" will prohibit automation.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        My advice to the food fetishists of the "Slow Food" Movement is: "If you want 'Slow Food,' go to a fast food drive-thru."
        🙂
        😉

  15. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/WokeArchive/status/1709570880076988540?t=KLFwpW1KsA22Q7-58uCWDw&s=19

    Explain this to me:

    Women are so oppressed that men pretend to be them to get ahead

    Black people are so oppressed that white people blindly bow down to BLM

    Gay people are so oppressed they get a whole month of large corporations kissing their asses

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      From the comments:
      It's always been elite vs the masses. Nothing else matters, and it's their narrative.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      2 months sir. October has been co-opted as well.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Because Halloween is all about dressing as something that one isn't, and therefore perfect for the "T"?

  16. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Reason's Stephanie Slade went on Ezra Klein's show (which David French hosted) to talk about the "new right."

    3 dems discuss enemies? Sad when slade is the only semi opposing voice. Granted I haven't listened so it may be even worse. French is a paid mouth piece now and Klein has always been Klein.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "French is a paid mouth piece now"

      French was a paid mouth piece then. He's always worked for Raytheon, General Dynamics and Boeing.

  17. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    David French talks about the new right?
    "these crazy new right wingers want rediculous things, like less illegal invades, less gov involvement is foreign problems that aren't our concerns, less gov intrusion into personal lives, less gov mandated Marxist, lower taxes, and lower regulation... They are an alien species to me! "

  18. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Obviously they're just hungry Jean Valjeans.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_59f8abbe-6101-11ee-83f2-3b2f6b5b2b73.html

    Organized retail crime is making national news across the country.

    Target announced Sept. 26 it was closing nine stores effective Oct. 21 across four states due to theft and organized retail crime. The cities were New York, Seattle, San Francisco/Oakland and Portland.

    The National Retail Federation released a report Sept. 26 that said retailers reported "a dramatic jump in financial losses associated with theft" that accounted for $112.1 billion in losses in 2022.

    “Retailers are seeing unprecedented levels of theft coupled with rampant crime in their stores, and the situation is only becoming more dire," NRF Vice President for Asset Protection and Retail Operations David Johnston said in a statement. "Far beyond the financial impact of these crimes, the violence and concerns over safety continue to be the priority for all retailers, regardless of size or category.”

    “These are not petty thefts,” Ferguson said in a statement. “These are multi-jurisdictional, organized crime rings that endanger the safety of employees and customers, damage our economy, and drive up costs for all Washingtonians."

    On Aug. 7, Florida Attorney General Ashley Moody announced former Florida pastor Robert Dell was charged with a multimillion-dollar theft ring where $1.4 million was stolen from The Home Depot stores in seven different counties and then sold on eBay. Moody launched the Florida Organized Retail Crime Exchange in December 2021. Authorities say Dell ran the operation for more than 10 years and stole more than $5 million in goods.

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Execution

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Nah, make them wish they were dead instead.

        Drag the looters through busy stores in yolks and stockades and yell on a megaphone: "Hey everybody! This is why Dove Soap and men's socks are in locked cases! This is why you have to go out of the way for fresh meat! This is why you don't have nice things!"

        And of course, unlimited peltings with rotten fruit and veggies!
        🙂
        😉

        1. markm23   2 years ago (edited)

          The health department would not like them keeping rotten fruit and veggies in the store, but...

          “We’re dragging them out back next to the dumpsters. It’s only a $1.00 charge for you to dig through the dumpster and find things to throw.”

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Robert Dell must have got bored with his "Pie-In-The-Sky" pastor grift and wanted some action.
      🙂
      😉

  19. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/Aristos_Revenge/status/1709568789057044894?t=oIVVsMO6XAqLZxylPyHGtg&s=19

    lmao.. the girlfriend of the guy that got shivved by a street scholar in NYC yesterday

    Eat your own dogfood lefties

    [Pic]

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      He's right, but it's cruel to say it. It's like pointing out to someone dying of lung cancer that they shouldn't have smoked a pack and a half a day.
      You can use it as a lesson to others but not to gloat.

    2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      A facial piercing? That's tough to square.

  20. Idaho Bob   2 years ago (edited)

    moved

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      Moved?

      Are you going to change your name from Idaho Bob then?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Oregon Bob wouldn't have quite the same ring to it.

      2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        I moved a comment to the correct thread.

        The only way you'll catch me in Oregon, is on my way to S. Idaho.

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          I see. Still, Tennessee Bob would have had a nice ring to it.
          🙂
          😉

  21. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/remnantposting/status/1709555961155715149?t=49H5rZBbbcW1vDy8tTsjNw&s=19

    Remember this next time you're tempted to feel bad for these "people."

    They never learn, they never introspect. They are driven by a need to feel superior to you, and at any cost.

    [Link]

    1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

      I don't get it.

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Yeah, needs more context.

  22. Brandybuck   2 years ago

    So the Republican House voted to return to Continuing Resolutions. The Ghost of Reagan truly has been kicked to the curb.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      If Reagan were alive today he'd be disowned by the Republican Party. They've got no use for old-school conservatives. Principles shminciples. Only thing that matters is whatever Trump is bloviating about that day.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        No he wouldn't be.

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          When I want your opinion I'll take a shit and breathe deep.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            You made a bald assertion. Completely bald. No facts to back it up. And you're wrong. I can back up my position though.

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Alright Sarckles, I'll Bite. Why would they disown Reagan?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

              Trade and immigration.

              You know, those two issues where Trumpians call Reason leftist, when Reason is promoting what Reagan would likely have supported.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                I literally posted what Reagan said about immigration the day he signed the bill. He didnt want citizenship. He promoted work permits only. He did not support open borders.

                Trade? He also issued tariffs as a reaction to foreign countries own actions.

                They are mirrors of Trump.

                1. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                  If Reagan were alive today he’d be disowned by the Republican Party.

                  LOL! He was opposed by the RINO wing when he ran the first time.
                  Voodoo economics. John Anderson.

              2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

                Pour Sarc, but if you hadn’t tried to conflate legal and illegal immigration together you couldn’t have made your dishonest claim:

                November 6, 1986

                Ronald Reagan: Statement on Signing the Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986

                The Immigration Reform and Control Act of 1986 is the most comprehensive reform of our immigration laws since 1952. In the past 35 years our nation has been increasingly affected by illegal immigration. This legislation takes a major step toward meeting this challenge to our sovereignty. At the same time, it preserves and enhances the Nation’s heritage of legal immigration. I am pleased to sign the bill into law.

                In 1981 this administration asked the Congress to pass a comprehensive legislative package, including employer sanctions, other measures to increase enforcement of the immigration laws, and legalization. The act provides these three essential components. The employer sanctions program is the keystone and major element. It will remove the incentive for illegal immigration by eliminating the job opportunities which draw illegal aliens here…

                Section 102(a) of the bill adds section 274B to the Immigration and Nationality Act. This new section relates to certain kinds of discrimination in connection with employment in the United States. Section 274B(a) provides that it is an “unfair immigration-related employment practice” to “discriminate against” any individual in hiring, recruitment or referral for a fee, or discharging from employment “because of” such individual’s national origin or — if such individual is a United States citizen or an alien who is a lawful permanent resident, refugee admitted under INA section 207, or asylee granted asylum under section 208, and who has taken certain steps evidencing an intent to become a United States citizen — because of such individual’s citizenship status. Employers of fewer than four employees are expressly exempted from coverage. Discrimination against an “unauthorized alien,” as defined in section 274A(h)(3), is also not covered.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  But other than facts what do you have. My ignorance says differently. - sarc

                2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  There was a time when there wasn't a distinction between legal and illegal immigration. Passports were a wartime thing until 1941.

                  Contrary to the strawman you argue against, I've never said I support open borders. I'm not going to argue against refusing entry to murderers or people with tuberculosis. Some basic rules need to apply.

                  What I do not support is the attitude that the blessing of the government somehow makes this guy fundamentally different from that guy.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    This strawman?

                    "sarcasmic 4 hours ago
                    If Reagan were alive today he’d be disowned by the Republican Party."

                    The only strawman here was the one you created when you tried to conflate legal and illegal immigration and pretend that Reagan didn't make that distinction. As the quote proves, he clearly did.

                    You're just no good at concern trolling, Sarc. You should stick to calling names.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                      Reagan gave immigrants amnesty. Your god Trump wants men with rifles to round them up like cattle.

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      Your god Trump wants men with rifles to round them up like cattle.

                      Got a citation for that, both the "god Trump", and the "round them up like cattle"?

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Even when posted woth dorect statements from Reagan, sarc continues to revel us in uninformed ignorance.

                3. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                  And if you ever listen to any of his speeches, he (or his speech writers) totally understood free trade. Can’t say the same about Trump.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    You've never listened to any politician's speech in your life. Everything you know you heard from CNN.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Tell us more about yourself.

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                    Cite the fucking speech. I’ll cite his actions including tariffs.

                    You have given no evidence to back up your assertions dumbass.

                    Reagan actually understood you dont get free trade by ignoring bad market actors. Shown by his fucking actions.

      2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        If we are talking about movement of the parties, the left is currently saying "hold my beer".

        Shit, Reagan? That's an entire lifetime ago. Try Obama. Apply Obama's campaigning, policies, and rhetoric (excluding "first black man" of course), and do it in a whyte man's voice. That politician would get called a bigoted, backwards, "alt right" candidate by today's left. We are talking the messiah, the guy who was just president a few years ago...

        The policies of Obama would be considered outside of the modern left. Joe Rogan and Russel fucking brand, Bernie sanders supporting lefties, are considered "far right".

        Im sorry man, Reagan not fitting in with the modern right is nothing in comparison to the open marxism (and labeling anyone not fully drinking the kool air "right wing") of the left

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          The policies of Obama would be considered outside of the modern left.

          Because Obama was a centrist. Cut the deficit in half. Cut taxes (then like Reagan raised them). Slowest growth of government since Eisenhower.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Cut taxes. Lol. Had the largest expanded regulatory cost on record. Too credit for TARP repayments (when tarp is removed Obama increased deficits every year), signed FY09 which dems try to pawn off on Bush...

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

              CBO Jan 2009 while Dumbya was POTUS — $1.2 trillion deficit.

              Jesse wrong again. And again. Every time.

              Notice I post the actual SOURCE document.

              https://www.cbo.gov/publication/41753

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                Did I mention that turd lies? turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  CBO projects that the deficit this year will total
                  $1.2 trillion, or 8.3 percent of GDP. Enactment of an
                  economic stimulus package would add to that deficit.

                  Page One.

                  Eat shit Sevo, you dumb splooge mopper.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                Obama signed FY09.

                https://www.theatlantic.com/business/archive/2009/03/advisers-say-obama-ready-to-sign-omnibus-bill/1090/

                The CBO included TARP. The loans were 08 and 09. Repayments 10-11. TARP was a one time spending bill Nancy and Schumer made part of the baseline. If you remove TARP from normal comparisons to budgets, the deficit increased every year under Obama. Just like I fucking said pedo.

                Are you able to read and comprehend what is written?

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  You're full of shit.

                  TARP was a plan hatched by Hank Paulson to save Dubya's dumb ass then rushed through Congress.

                  And the actual deficit went down every year under Obama, liar. TARP was repaid before his first term ended.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    TARP was repaid before his first term ended.

                    The repayments lowered the deficit you retarded fuck. Youre comparing outlays to inlays for a program. Why a true comparison removes TARP from the comparison. God damn shrike. Full retard today.

              3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                CBO Jan 2009 while Dumbya was POTUS — $1.2 trillion deficit

                The budget that caused that deficit wasn't even signed until after Obama became President, because Dubya was going to veto one that had more spending.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Obama a centrist? BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!!!! Obama was a dyed in the wool socialist his entire time as community activist and legislator in Chicago, associating with just about every far leftist he could find in the city.

            Centrist, my ass.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              Obama credited capitalism for the greatness of the USA, idiot. Obama wrote the free trade TPP.

              And all the top capitalists supported him. GOP has been reduced to the redneck vote since Obama.

              You're a fucking moron.

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
                If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
                turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                You didnt build that. - Obama.

          4. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

            LMAO! Dude you are always good for a detached-from-reality chuckle. This does explain your absolute economic illiteracy though.

            O attempted an unconstitutional takeover of the healthcare industry. He was a big gov shitlib.

            He just doesn't have a place in the inmate-run-asylum anymore, as they have fully moved into secular/pagan cult territory where magical thinking reigns supreme. And in that world, a standard shitlib with 50% melanin doesn't even move the needle anymore. At minimum you have to check a race and gender box and, most importantly, be fully committed to the dear leader (marx)

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              O attempted an unconstitutional takeover of the healthcare industry

              SCOTUS says you're full of shit.

              But we knew that.

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                Don't forget that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          5. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

            Obama was a centrist? Obama was a liar. Remember, he ran on being opposed to same sex marriage, but celebrated Obergefell. He persecuted the Little Sisters of the Poor for insufficiently bending the knee on the moral goodness of abortificiants.

            Centrist, my ass.

      3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Reagan was more like Trump at the time then most currently remember/realize. The GOPe of the time hated him. Reagan, like Trump, found a way to appeal to the working class that typically voted for Democrats ("Reagan Democrat", anyone?). He also presented a message about making America great again (Morning in America) in stark contrast to Jimmy Carter, the Democrats, and the GOPe of the time.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Reagan also stated how great it was to be American and how we must protect it when he signed the amnesty bill.

          "Our objective is only to establish a reasonable, fair, orderly, and secure system of immigration into this country and not to discriminate in any way against particular nations or people," Reagan said upon signing the legislation. "... Future generations of Americans will be thankful for our efforts to humanely regain control of our borders and thereby preserve the value of one of the most sacred possessions of our people: American citizenship."

          He utilized tariffs in a retaliatory fashion when other countries violated free market principles.

          He defended strength but was largely a non interventionist.

          https://www.heritage.org/political-process/report/the-first-principles-ronald-reagans-foreign-policy

          He shared a lot of similar policies to Trump. More so than Bush, HW Bush, or the other neocons sarc supports.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            More so than Bush, HW Bush, or the other neocons sarc supports.

            Go die in a fire you lying sack of shit.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Awww. The dem defending neocon pos is mad.

              Hope he never complains about nardz comments again. Would show him yo be a hypocrite.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Nardz openly advocates for the mass murder of everyone who disagrees with him politically (and nobody but me has ever called him out on it which, by the logic you use, means you fully support murdering anyone who didn't vote for Trump).

                Whereas I hope you die in a fire because you're a bad faith actor who continually lies and misrepresents what people say so you can derail conversations. You're a disruptive, dishonest, malicious, mendacious troll and the world would be better off without you. I'm sure your family and "friends" would agree.

                Nothing hypocritical there.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  You’ve opined on my murder twice just this morning retard.

                  I didn't misrepresent anything buddy. You lie about your past statements and well... about everything.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                    I never said anything about murdering you. You lie yet again.

                    I said it would be great if you died in a fire, and that reading about it would make me happy. Nothing about murder.

                    You can’t make a post without lying.

                    Just as you lie when you say I’ve threatened you.

                    I said it would be great if you talked to peoples’ faces the way you talk in these comments, because you would end up in the hospital or morgue. That’s not a threat. It’s calling you out for the pussy keyboard warrior that you are.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Lol. Nardz dies the same shit retard. He wishes people would die. He doesn't say he would murder them. Exactly what you just did.

                      Wishing people violence because youre incapable of having an intelligent conversation. Lol.

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

          Reagan really cared about the country, knew a thing or two about economics, had compassion for people, had dialog with the other side, and wasn’t a dick.

          Trump cares only about Trump, knows jack shit about economics, is devoid of compassion, won't have dialog with anyone who isn't a sycophant, and is a terrible human being.

          Trump is the anti-Reagan.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Notice sarc can give no explicit examples. Yet others above have.

          2. DesigNate   2 years ago

            This is why people say you have TDS.

            People have given you cited examples of how Regan policies and Trump policies are similar, but your blind hatred of him and them leads you to agreeing with shrike, who hasn’t been right in the 15 years I’ve been posting here.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              There's no hatred. I don't get emotional over politics. That's 100% projection.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Your commentary speaks otherwise.

            2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

              I think Trump is a piece of garbage, that’s true. He’s spent most of my life bragging about being a unscrupulous businessman, scoffing at ethics and anyone with them.

              Does that rise to the level of hatred? Heck no. But I’ve got no respect for the guy. Anything good that he did politically was incidental, as in unintentional.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                He unintentionally lowered taxes and regulations and didn’t start any wars?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  All accidents despite him campaigning on those things per sarc. But he is totally logical.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Doesn't get emotional... just blind emotional hatred while ignoring cited facts. Lol.

        3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          He also presented a message about making America great again (Morning in America) in stark contrast to Jimmy Carter

          Yes, we agree for once. Reagan, like Trump, mastered the art of positive-minded empty bullshit.

          I still laugh at Fatass Donnie's "greatest economy ever" bullshit. His Cult actually repeats it.

          #FatassGDPonly1.6%

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        If Reagan were alive today he’d be disowned by the Republican Party.

        100% true. Reagan gave us EMTALA (forced medical care for the poor), open borders, and wild welfare increases in the form of EITC.

        The lurches to the left since LBJ have been predominately Republican driven.

        And Peanuts wonder why I hate the GOP. Dems don't move us to socialism like Nixon, Reagan, Bush, Bush the Lesser and Donnie have.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Man. Really sucks for sarc when you jump in to blindly back him up.

          I mean open borders? Lol. Just lie about his statements and the security provisions in the 86 bill that democrats never lived up to.

          Just a bunch of retarded lies lol. Aca pushed far more gov control of Healthcare than EMTALA did retard. Then social security. Medicare. Expanded welfare. Expanded regulations. All democrats.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Tell me where I am wrong.

            You can't.

            Ignorance is holding you back.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              I did. Literally in the post.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                So you edited your post:

                Aca pushed far more gov control of Healthcare than EMTALA did retard. Then social security. Medicare. Expanded welfare. Expanded regulations. All democrats.

                ACA was paid for. EMTALA was not. Neither was Bush the Lesser's Medicare Prescription Welfare of 2003.

                Republicans never pay for any of their programs, asswipe.

                Reagan TAXED Social Security.

                Bill Clinton reduced welfare, not Republicans. Clinton ran a surplus for two years until Bush the Idiot blew up the deficit to $1 trillion for the first time.

                You lose again.

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                2. Sevo   2 years ago

                  BTW, turd has been peddling the lie about Clinton balancing the budget for at least 10 years, has had his lies debunked nearly every time he posts it, and yet continues to lie about it.
                  turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a LIAR.

                3. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

                  ""Bill Clinton reduced welfare, not Republicans. ""

                  By using a republican idea called workfare. He did it in AR too.

                  Bill had little problems with and much experience working with team R as gov of AR.

                4. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

                  ""Bush the Idiot blew up the deficit to $1 trillion for the first time.""

                  That was a congressional bipartisan effort.

                  The president doesn't decide the budget. You know it, don't know why you ignore it.

                  1. Sevo   2 years ago

                    because turd lies. turd is a pathological liar. If turd posts it, it's a lie.

                  2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    The President runs his party. GOP had Congress back then. At least for the most destructive years until 2007.

                    1. Sevo   2 years ago

                      Pretty sure everyone knows that turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                5. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  ACA is paid for through taxes and mandates. You just praised the USSC ruling above. It is a federal takeover. Majority of people lost their preferred plans. Choices were limited. Mandates were issued.

                  Debt never decreased under Clinton. Another lie you tell often. This has been shown hundreds of times at this point.

                  All you have is false DNC talking points.

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    Debt never decreased under Clinton

                    I have repeatedly explained to you idiots that the debt increased because SS surpluses must be used to buy debt (US Treasuries for you morons).

                    The GENERAL fund piled up so much money Dumbya used it as an excuse to cut taxes. (which would have been good if he hadn't doubled spending).

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      Dude, you don't understand. The Laffer Curve says that all tax cuts increase revenue.

                      Ideally you achieve maximum revenue with tax rates of 0%.

                    2. Sevo   2 years ago

                      turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      You dont understand that debt never decreased under Clinton. Youre relying on games of handwriting to make an untrue claim. Debt increased every year. The budget only looked as well as it did due to the growth if the dot com bubble that hit his last year.

                      Youre a fucking retard.

                      And sarc went full retard as well.

                    4. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      I just said "the debt increased each year" you moron.

                      then I explained why - Social Security surpluses that must be invested in US Treasuries.

                      Idiot Jesse, it is so simple. Cash doesn't accrue interest like Treasuries. It becomes intergovernmental debt.

                      The cumulative "surplus" funds are "primarily invested in interest-bearing obligations of the U.S. Government."1 Most of the assets held by the Social Security trust fund are "special public-debt obligations for purchase exclusively by the trust funds." The special Treasury issues are "redeemable at all times at par value," and they "pay an average market yield."2 Essentially, the Social Security surplus has been lent to the Treasury to fund other government expenditures.

                    5. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      SPB - to put it in the simplest terms, the federal debt went up during Clinton's reign. So the budget wasn't balanced. You can dance around saying it was with this or that budgetary slight of hand, but the fact is that the debt went up.

                    6. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Hey. Sarc was able to be honest for once.

            2. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

        2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          What lurches to the left happened under Trump? Other than the Space Farce I can't think of any new agencies he created.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Trump signed FIVE (5) new welfare programs.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              Did you know that turd lies? turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              "Trump signed FIVE (5) new welfare programs."

              What were they Pluggo?

              I did a Google and couldn't find any mention of them.

              I did find this though:

              Trump Administration Civil and Human Rights Rollbacks

              It's a huge, whiny list from lefty extremists complaining that Trump was doing the exact opposite of what you just claimed.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Trump threatens to not sign COVID-19 bill, wants bigger stimulus checks
                By Reuters Staff
                .
                WASHINGTON (Reuters) -President Donald Trump threatened on Tuesday to not sign an $892 billion coronavirus relief bill that includes desperately needed money for individual Americans, saying it should be amended to increase the amount in the stimulus checks.

                CARES Act, PPP, others. forgot the names

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  The TDS-addled turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  So you still don't understand how budgets are formed and what veto proof majorities are. No wonder you and sarc are on the same side.

                  1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                    Yeah, moron. Donnie was worried about a veto so he wanted the welfare payouts jacked UP.

                    You are really a stupid Cultist.

                    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      Questions Pluggo won't answer:

                      1. Who wrote the bill, introduced it to congress and voted for it?

                      2. was it veto proof?

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Space Force isn't even a "new" agency--it's just a re-configured, split-off branch that's running all the space and cyber stuff that the Air Force used to run.

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. DesigNate   2 years ago

      McCarthy literally just agreed to a Continuing Resolution, what the fuck?

  23. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    WTF is going on in Sweden?

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/10/03/sweden-and-the-lethal-complacency-of-the-elites/

    Are we allowed to talk about Sweden yet? Now that the Swedish army is being asked to help cops with a surge in gangland killings, can we ask if perhaps there is something rotten in the state of Sweden? For years the complacent technocracies of America and Europe said Sweden was fine. Only Trumpists and troublemakers would say otherwise. Now, following the PM’s announcement that he’s asking the army to use everything from its knowledge on ‘explosives’ to ‘helicopter logistics’ to help tackle an epidemic of gang crime, maybe these people will be roused from their Scandi-naïveté.

    There are now so many grenade attacks in Sweden that it’s the only country outside of Mexico that keeps a record of them. Things have got so crazy in recent years that even the BBC, which is not always upfront in its reporting on the problems afflicting ‘nice’ EU nations, sounded agog in 2019: ‘Sweden’s 100 explosions this year: What’s going on?’ Alongside the gang violence, there are Islamist uprisings. There were days-long Muslim riots in April last year in response to a right-winger’s burning of a Koran. Sweden’s chief of police said he’d ‘never seen such violent riots’.

    The situation in Sweden, more than any other nation, speaks to how lethal the complacency of the technocrats has become. Who can forget the establishment chuckling at Donald Trump in 2017 when he said Sweden is ‘having problems like they never thought possible’. ‘Sweden is fine’, crowed the right-on. Now Sweden’s own prime minister echoes Trump, saying ‘Sweden has never before seen anything like this’. So things aren’t fine. They lied to us. They dishonestly packaged up their technocratic rule and pseudo-virtue as infallible, and branded their critics as idiots and bigots. The rise of populism gets less mysterious with every passing day.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      No downside to illegal immigration.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        I would tell you about the Muslim horde but you Wokies would get upset.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Donald Trump in 2017 when he said Sweden is ‘having problems like they never thought possible’.

      So what would Fatass Donnie do? What did he do about the violent riots in the US in 2020?

      I laugh at the gullible Cultists who think that Donnie walks on water. All he has ever done is run his fat mouth.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "What did he do about the violent riots in the US in 2020?"

        I thought you said that they were all peaceful protests? You're not keeping notes on your old rhetoric, are you.

        Also, what do YOU think he should have done that wouldn't end up with you calling him Hitler?

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Peaceful protests? Not me. I've always said that the arsonists should be arrested and convicted. About 20 years prison iirc.

          And the immigration problem is just beginning. Both parties are failures.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            I think I can dredge up some old posts of yours that claim differently.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              No, I was more of the "Wish Antifa and MAGA would get into a mass gunfight" guy.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                According to JesseAz and his white knights, if you didn't stand up and denounce BLM an Antifa in a disruptive way that got everyone's attention, you supported them. Because nobody actually did that, everyone they accuse is guilty. If you fall for their game and say what they want, it's too little too late and you still support BLM and Antifa. Guilty until proven innocent by passing goalposts than never stop moving.

                Remember that they always argue in bad faith. Always.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  Cite?

                  You know nobody but your leftist allies Mike and the pedo believe your bullshit right?

                2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                  "If you didn’t stand up and denounce BLM an Antifa in a disruptive way that got everyone’s attention, you supported them."

                  If I can post four quotes of you supporting and making excuses for the rioters back then sarcasmic, what will you do?

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Bring it on. I know that I likely said they've got a beef, and that they were had legitimate reasons to be angry.

                    Unlike you, I've never excused assault and property destruction.

              2. Sevo   2 years ago

                The TDS-addled asshole turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  Shut up Sevo. You witless moron.

                  1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                    The TDS-addled asshole turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                    turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            Didn't he send in the national guard and was then crucified in the MSM for doing so?

          3. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            As for immigration. Stay in Mexico stopped the flow. He then asked congress to do their job and come up with policy and fund a wall to which they responded with the 'Children in Cages' crusade. It was not that long ago Butthead. Surely you haven't memory holed those successes.
            It was working so well your boy Biden tried to plagiarize the policy just a few months back.

    3. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      True story: There is a band called Swedish House Mafia that had a popular dance number several years back:

      Don't You Worry Child
      https://youtu.be/51WxdYDOiHI?si=Ae2F_8Tqj1aLMcYs

      Judging from the lyrics of the chorus, the Islamists could call it "Music to Jihad By."
      🙂
      😉

    4. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      Sweden convinced itself to import a violent criminal class which is not integrated into the values of Swedish culture.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        And that violent criminal class hides behind a "religion".

  24. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/jakeshieldsajj/status/1709418300521013607?t=ntjd7zth4bnMMBsZl41C4Q&s=19

    Why do the migrant hotels in NYC have an entire security team and what government agency do these people work for?

    [Link]

  25. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating

    Is there such a thing as valuable time spent legislating? I think not.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      They could be writing a budget, like they are mandated to by the Constitution.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        But if they DONT write a budget the fed government will "shut down"

        So I call that a win-win, best use of their time is failing to write a budget.

  26. Nardz   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/hereliesthighs/status/1709482515788923176?t=1vgCG5DwbUdiGZ6Enojn_g&s=19

    A dumpy communist piece of shit
    Sat waiting with his latinx chick
    Strolling past with nothing in mind
    A noble proletarian, their favorite kind
    A knife the youth did unsheathe
    To cleave the poet as he screamed
    Pay the description of the suspect no mind.

  27. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

    Between Pava LePere, Josh Kruger, and now this guy, it hasn’t been a good few days for “white allies”:

    “The NYPD is pleading for the public’s assistance in tracking down the suspect who stabbed a 32-year-old social justice advocate in a cold blooded killing that occurred in Brooklyn in the early hours of Monday morning.

    Within hours of Ryan Carson’s tragic death in the Bedford Stuyvesant section of the city, his friends and colleagues had organized a candlelight vigil in which one called his murder ‘unthinkable.'”

    White shitlibs always think their political ideology provides them with an Aura of Protection that will prevent their pets from harming them.

    Looks like this guy had direct lines to the bigwigs, too, because Adams, Schumer, and one of the NYC council members all made statements on his murder.

    “Carson was an organizer for the New York Public Interest Research Group.”

    The PIRGs are commie front groups, incidentally.

    Bonus shitlibbery: “Another friend, Acadia Cutschall, told the New York Post that she was present when Carson talked a man out of mugging him. ‘I was present once when he literally talked a guy out of mugging him. He gave him some money,’ she said.

    LOL, if the guy took his money in exchange for not harming him, he literally got mugged, you slack-jawed moron.

    Also, the best part is that the report said there was “no physical description” of the suspect, even though the video shows plain as day that it was a black dude in a hoodie. At least the guy died doing what he loved–getting mauled by a POC for reparations. he also looks EXACTLY like you’d expect someone with his politics to look, with the Harry Potter glasses, soyface, and the “just got out of the shower” hairstyle.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      looked like a young black male in a hoody stabbed him. We cant have this lead to profiling, so best to sweep it under the rug

    2. mad.casual   2 years ago

      LOL, if the guy took his money in exchange for not harming him, he literally got mugged, you slack-jawed moron.

      Still unconvinced that the awkward evasion of the discussion of his death isn't less "I don't want to say a black guy did it." and more "I don't want to say the most useful thing he ever did was stop a knife with his sternum, because his sternum didn't stop the knife."

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      It was not a mugging. It was extremely aggressive panhandling and therefore protected by the 1st Amendment, don'tcha know?

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Just for clarification, the guy who carved Carson like a Thanksgiving turkey wasn't the dude who mugged him, that was some other hood rat. The murderer was apparently knocking over bicycles or something, and Carson tried to intervene and got stabbed for his troubles.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago (edited)

        ^ this point also highlights that said turkey was confirmed to be completely retarded and lacking in any kind of critical thinking in all areas of life.

        Lets put aside the left wing activism and other magical thinking the clown would partake in. This guy is in NYC. Out late at night. Not just late, 3-4am late. He’s a raging lefty, so of course not carrying. And when he sees a thug in a hoodie vandalizing shit, at 4 am, in NYC, on Malcolm X blvd (seriously, not joking), his instant wrong instinct is “I think I should involve myself here”…while his lady love is there with him.

        There are about 15 fail-safes that should be in place in his brain that all malfunctioned to be in this situation. If a theoretical person could take the thug on hand to hand, was armed with both a knife and gun, and had superior physical conditioning, the correct action for this theoretical man would be to put distance between yourself and the angry young black man in the hoodie vandalizing shit. Just complete lack of judgement and situational awareness, as a result of living in a fictional world detached from reality.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          I keep hoping Tim Wise meets the same fate, but unfortunately he's smart enough to cloister himself in the whitest upper-middle class area of Nashville and not go down to the "vibrant" parts of the city at night.

  28. Sevo   2 years ago

    "California's COVID-19 misinformation law is dead"
    [...]
    "The law, AB2098, which took effect Jan. 1, made California the first state in the U.S. to include COVID-19 misinformation in the definition of physician misconduct. Violations could have led to license suspension or revocation. However, on Sept. 30, Gov. Gavin Newsom quietly repealed the law when he signed a dense bill, SB815, that addressed a broad range of physician requirements.
    Weeks after AB2098 took effect in January, a federal court blocked the state from enforcing the law. Judge William Shubb of the U.S. District Court in the Eastern District of California issued a preliminary injunction in response to a request from a group of physicians who opposed the law..."
    https://www.beckershospitalreview.com/legal-regulatory-issues/californias-covid-19-misinformation-law-is-dead.html

    The grease-bag Newsom just can't seem to look like an adult.

  29. Jerry B.   2 years ago

    McCarthy cooperated with the Democrats to keep the government open, then they all voted for his ouster. How anyone trusts Democrats is a mystery to me.

    1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      Democrats lie. Democrats lie when they know they're lying. Democrats lie when we know they're lying. Democrats lie when they know that we know they're lying.
      Democrats lie.

      /apologies to Sevo.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        JesseAz is a Democrat?

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

          Remember folks, he may continually white knight for them, but Sarcasmic swears he he’s not a Democrat.

          Also, Ideas!

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Says the white knight for the biggest liar in the comments.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              ML does not white knight Pluggo.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                You both white knight JesseAz.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

                  Obviously you missed up above where I gave JesseAZ some anecdotal information in your favor.

                  You also said "Says the white knight for the biggest liar in the comments." The biggest liar in the comments is Shrike aka Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

                    Then maybe it’s a matter of perspective. Since almost every post of mine has a reply from JesseAz lying about something or misrepresenting something, that makes him look to me like the biggest liar.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Cite?

                    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      How was Jesse lying, liar?

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          This is just dumb in a thread you've already showed you lied in when you said yesterday I was being muted. And 2 days ago when you claimed what you said and then ran away after being given what you actually said. Lol.

          Been a great week for you.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Sorry you measure your week by what happens in these comments. I knew you were a loser, but shit. That's ridiculous.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Weird attempt at a lie and non sequitur about you lying. I just don't have a drunks memory and can remember past an hour ago.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        "/apologies to Sevo."

        There are many times when assholes other than turd deserve it.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      Scorpion and the Frog all over again.

      On the other hand, the Republicans who wanted to oust him over it, ended up voting with all the Democrats to do it.

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Ya, this. I also enjoy the professional gymnast levels of spin the left are trying to put on this one to claim some sort of victory and paint the R's as a dysfunctional mess (though, not completely wrong here)

      They constantly complain about the dangerous ultra MAGA republicans, and lobby McCarthy to keep the govt open. Then McCarthy does it, and ALL of the democrats then side with the ultra MAGA republicans to oust McCarthy lmao.

      There is certainly an entertaining shitshow to watch, but pretending they didn't have the biggest hand in creating said shitshow is laughable.

      Either way, lets hope nothing passes congress for as long as possible

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        " . . . dangerous ultra MAGA republicans . . . "

        I am still waiting for any democrat, but especially Biden, to explain why making America great is a bad thing.

        1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

          Because they hate America, of course.

          1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

            Literally. It's no secret they want to conquer the USA for their Democratic [Na]tional So[zi]alist Empire.

    4. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      McCarthy did not cooperate with the Democrats he did the only thing he really could do which was to put out a bill that was minimally acceptable to Democrats to get their votes. This was aways going to happen if they had shut down the government it would have been in a week or two as pressure built.

    5. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Apparently the Reps in the "Problem Solvers Caucus" are shocked that the Dems in the caucus didn't vote to keep McCarthy in like they said they were going to do.

      Just a fantastic example of how the True and Honest Republicans Not Those Icky Populists keep getting rolled by their opponents time after time and remaining willfully retarded as to why it happens.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        but dont worry, when it comes time for the next show trials, the Liz Cheney's of the GOP will all line up again in a bipartisan way to help the D's, knowing of course this will never backfire.

  30. NOYB2   2 years ago

    will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating

    From the "libertarians for more legislation" desk!

  31. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Violence declines - but not for trans people"
    https://www.pressreader.com/usa/san-francisco-chronicle-late-edition/20231004/281612425041025

    Second paragraph points out that a lot of the violence is perpetrated by other trannys. Maybe you shouldn't hang out with un-stable people.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      LOL@ sexually abused by trans people but scary, 'alt-right Orange County skinheads' made him reconsider living in CA.

      I put the odds somewhere around 7:1 that the alt-right Orange County skinheads aren't real either.

  32. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

    ""The unionized Kaiser employees are looking for a four-year contract with pay hikes of 7 percent during the first two years and 6.25 percent in subsequent years, with bonuses (of up to 3 percent of their wages) each year.""

    Same people who claim healthcare is too expensive?

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      Picked up a 'scrip aa while back, and it turned out to be 100% covered by insurance. Commented to the pharmacist that I liked the price. He said 'they should all be free.'
      I asked if he was willing to work for nothing; he seemed surprised, the idiot.

  33. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

    Don't get incensed! Today, the October Synod commences. Bishops from around the world will meet in the Vatican, where Pope Francis will allow discussion of contentious issues within the Roman Catholic Church, including celibacy and marriage for priests, whether female deacons ought to be permitted, the blessing of gay couples, and whether divorced people should receive the sacraments.

    Damn! No talk about turning themselves in or auctioning treasures to benefit victims!

    1. Dillinger   2 years ago

      as an Episcopal I welcome all my Catholic brethren to the Church lol.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Since you guys are nicknamed Whiskey-palians by Southern Baptists and Pentecostals, I won't go Hardcore Militant Anti-Theist on you.
        🙂
        😉
        For the sake of your children, though, you really should vett the incoming Priests with Sodium Pentothal and a Proctologist speculum and mini-camera.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

          lol to be fair the last time I appeared was Christmas ’98 …

          edit: but Mother Dillinger is hardcore ... Deacon & everything ... our discussions over the quarter-century have been fun

      2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        The Epicopal Church is what faithful Catholics would like the Church of Rome to not turn into, thank you very much.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          better polonium tea the current guy in charge then. post-haste

        2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Unfortunately, it isn't that far from it since Vatican II.

  34. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>and any election to replace McCarthy ... will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.

    nominate T and watch the city explode lol.

  35. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Tim Scott pandered to ‘Sambo section of the Black community’ during GOP debate: Rep. Jamaal Bowman
    Matt Laslo
    September 29, 2023 7:19PM ET
    .
    Tim Scott pandered to ‘Sambo section of the Black community’ during GOP debate: Rep. Jamaal Bowman
    Republican presidential candidate U.S. Sen. Tim Scott (R-SC) delivers remarks during the Fox Business Republican Primary Debate at the Ronald Reagan Presidential Library on September 27, 2023, in Simi Valley, California.
    “If they criticize Trump, then you know the MAGA majority will turn on them, and they have no way of winning if the MAGA majority turns on,” Bowman said.
    Raw Story

    THE RACISM! OMG! OMG!

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

      Is it okay to call black people “Sambo” Shrike?

      You're the kind of guy who thinks it’s okay to yell “N*gger!!!” at a group of school kids because “They use it themselves in their rap records”, aren’t you?

      Now tell us again how it was okay for you to imitate Clarence Thomas and Tim Scott using a minstrel accent.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Jamaal Bowman used the term so it must be okay.

        I confess I don't understand the Sambo Republicans. Splain it.

        1. Dillinger   2 years ago

          it's Insurrectionist Bowman's to explain. the Nazi thing too.

        2. JFree   2 years ago

          In Uncle Tom's Cabin, Sambo and Quimbo are Simon Legree's overseers. Sambo is the one who beats Uncle Tom to death.

          In the 20th century, Uncle Tom is derogated as the black who tries to please whites too much. Sambo tends to get ignored but obviously he's the guy who does whatever whites want - particularly including kill blacks. My guess is that in BLM type circles, he's roughly equivalent to black cops in unreformed police departments.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Interesting. I love literary names. My old one "Shrike" is derived from a 1920's novel.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              The TDS-addled turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
              turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Quit sniffing my ass, Sevo. You flea-bit mongrel.

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd, the assclown of the commentariat, lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides

            2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              I love literary names.

              Which is odd as you obviously hate reading so much you won't even read your own citations.

              Anyway:

              Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 3 mins ago
              Uncle Clarence has had his hand out for over 20 years.
              GIMME DAT WHITIE MONEY!

              Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago (edited)
              Pharma Bro Vivek Ramaswamy was already millionaire when he accepted Soros award he said he needed to pay for law school
              Trouble in Bollywood!

              Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 1 hour ago
              Tim Scott 400-1 Whuffo Bro? Whuffo is you in dis race fo, bro?

              Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2 2 hours ago
              Do you remember Spermin’ Herman Cain? He sounded like a slave extra from Song of the South."

            3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

              What about your other old one... same as your current one, minus the "2" ?

          2. Dillinger   2 years ago

            >>Sambo is the one who beats Uncle Tom to death.

            in Kansas there used to be Sambo's Restaurants they were like better-than-Dennys Dennys

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              It was an unfortunate naming as Sambo's was named after the founders, Sam and Bo (Sam Battistone Sr. and Newell Bohnett), and used a South Indian story for theming, "The Story of Little Black Sambo".

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sambo%27s

              1. Dillinger   2 years ago

                ya the stained glass story around the kitchen-bar never said anything about beating Uncle Tom to death

          3. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

            He's also the child in the children's story Little Black Sambo.

            https://www.saada.org/tides/article/little-black-sambo

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  36. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>McCarthy—who served as speaker for only 269 days

    shouldn't have been in on the Ukraine racket.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      The next one will be too.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        secret deals with (D) the (R) coalition didn't even know he made lolwtf

  37. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>(which David French hosted)

    zzzzzzzzzzzz hey when do the pieces drop about the recent actual insurrections?

  38. mad.casual   2 years ago

    The New York Times calls this "a concrete shift toward the democratization of the church, a central tenet of the Francis papacy that views the abuse of power in an aloof hierarchy as the cause of many of the church's problems."

    Oh, good, rather than an abuse of power in an aloof hierarchy we'll have an abuse of power in a fully-knowing hierarchy.

    Once again, Francis has been Pope for a decade, Benedictus nearly a decade before that, if there's still an abuse of power issue going on Francis ain't fixing it. More likely as others like to point out elsewhere, this isn't about fixing problems as much as it is about destabilizing existing structures in the name of solving problems so that the structures can be replaced whether it solves the problems or not.

  39. Dillinger   2 years ago

    that pic of Ryan, Cantor & McCarthy LLC is a terrifying hoot.

    1. Minadin   2 years ago

      I couldn't even remember who the middle guy was.

  40. Naime Bond   2 years ago

    Within ten years, drag queens will be handing out First Holy Communion.....wafers will come in 'rainbow' colors. Children will have the choice to have it placed on their tongues....or shoved up their ......

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Then there came one of the seven Angels, which had the seven vials, and talked with me, saying unto me, Come: I will show thee the damnation of the great whore that sitteth upon many waters,
      With whom have committed fornication the kings of the earth, and the inhabitants of the earth are drunken with the wine of her fornication.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Funny you should cite that. I've heard some Libertarians suggest that the Mascot of Libertarianism should not be the Porcupine or the Gadsden Snake, but The Whore of Babylon riding astride The Beast with Seven Heads and Ten Horns. It is aptly symbolic and sure would get us noticed.
        🙂
        😉

  41. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Morons. Fucking morons.

    Scores of military veterans, service academy graduates and families are scrambling to find hotel rooms for the big Army-Navy game at Gillette Stadium because their reservations were canceled to make way for migrant families.

    https://www.bostonherald.com/2023/10/04/battenfeld-army-navy-game-at-gillette-has-turned-into-cluster-because-migrants-have-taken-up-hotel-rooms/

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the TDS-addled ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Abbott should tell Jerrah Jonez to offer AT&T Stadium as an alternative site.

    3. ObviouslyNotSpam   2 years ago

      DeSantis surely knows all about the problems created by immigrants needing housing in Massachusetts--he sent a number of them there himself...

  42. Minadin   2 years ago

    "Bring it on."

    https://youtu.be/D3U55usfJK8?si=bdf2-xssHAbrLkmG&t=209

    "What Darius didn't know is that Chris was a 10th degree black belt who started trouble just so he could practice his karate in street fighting scenarios."

  43. MWAocdoc   2 years ago (edited)

    “… any election to replace McCarthy … will probably waste valuable time that could be spent legislating.”

    For those of us who don’t want Congress to legislate this is great news! No, I don’t want Congress to kick the fiscal can down the block yet another time with yet another continuing resolution. No, I don’t want Congress to pass any new laws, programs, regulations or budgets. If this happened to delay any repeals of previous laws, programs, spending, regulations or debt ceiling raises then it would be bad, but I remain truly skeptical about any such possibility. The least bad of a number of bad options would be to shut down government completely at this point in hopes that someone, somewhere might come to their senses and actually do the job government was intended to do AND NOTHING ELSE, but I remain totally convinced that that will not happen now either. Chaos and gridlock – out of spite if nothing else – is my only hope now.

  44. Sevo   2 years ago

    "THE EVER-SO-GREEN SWEDEN IS CUTTING ITS CLIMATE BUDGET"
    [...]
    "‘A petrol-soaked budget’ is a common characterization of the new budget proposal that the Swedish cabinet presented last week. The centre-right government, chaired by Prime Minister Ulf Kristersson of the liberal-conservative Moderate Union Party and supported by the radical right Sweden Democrats, is sharply focused on the climate for a second year in a row.
    The government is responsible for social services, defence, internal security and justice. But in general terms, the budget is tight: the ‘economic winter’ that Sweden is experiencing requires, according to the government, to cutbacks. This also applies to climate adaptation..."
    https://www.archyde.com/the-ever-so-green-sweden-is-cutting-its-climate-budget/

  45. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

    It really doesn't matter who is the next Speaker, because in the end that person will have to compromise with the Democrats. The founders of the country created a government system that requires compromise. You can shut down the government for a short while, but as pressure builds you are forced to the table to compromise. This always happens. Not because a Speaker is weak but because the system will take you to compromise whether it is wanted or not.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      They could decide to burn the house down to save the old pictures.

      Seriously. Force a shut down. And then walk away.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the assclown of the commentartiat lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides

    2. MWAocdoc   2 years ago (edited)

      No the founders did no such thing. No the next Speaker will NOT have to compromise with “the Democrats.” The Republican caucus can cut spending and pass a revenue-neutral budget in the form of a number of revenue-neutral spending authorization bills with or without any House Democrats voting for it and send it to the Senate. They would have done their Constitutional jobs. If the Democrats in the Senate fail to pass a budget, it’s fine with me and would have been fine with The Founders, too!

      Whatever pressure might build at that point would be purely imaginary and can safely be ignored.

      1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        First the House Republican could not even get their party together to pass some of the appropriation bills, so your scenario would not even happen.

        The American people expect a functioning government. Their tolerance for a shutdown is far less than most of the commenters to this site. So as time progresses pressure builds and sides are expected to compromise. Why do Republican's lose in these compromises, because they stake out poor positions. Our government is structure to force compromise to the middle. The side farther from the middle has to compromise more or lose in public support. This is not rocket science, it has been this way since the founding.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

          No it hasn’t. It was all deemed UN-Constitutional before FDR and his court stuffing like a real USA is suppose to exist. It never was suppose to be conquered for Democratic Nazism.

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      because in the end that person will have to compromise with the Democrats

      narrator: he actually doesnt have to. but he will anyway

      1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

        The Speaker will compromise because the system is designed to force a compromise. It would be different in a parliamentary system, but we don't have that in this country. Unless a party controls both houses of Congress and Presidency they must compromise. Even when they have control they must often compromise with factions of their own party. It is built into the system.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          Wrong again. They dead-lock and go nowhere for VERY GOOD REASON. If there is no agreement; the government has no business gov-gun mandating it. Precisely why the founders required MORE than 50% agreement was required for Constitutional amendments.

          You literally make it sound like gov-gun dictation in all things HAS to exist. When what idiot leftards like yourself really insist is some [WE] mob RULES and mostly steals blind all those 'icky' people.

  46. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    McCarthy is a RINO from CA. He never deserved that spot to begin with. I hope Thomas Massie gets it.

  47. faizi012   2 years ago

    i am little confused you used a term, i am grateful for not having that tattoo ? what means for what purpose you said that?

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