Trump's Abortion Triangulation Makes Political Sense but Belies His 'Pro-Life' Pose
The former president is right to worry that supporting restrictions on abortion could hurt him in the general election.

Before he ran for president, Donald Trump described himself as "pro-choice." But when he was seeking the 2016 Republican presidential nomination, he promised to appoint "pro-life" Supreme Court justices. "I am pro-life," he declared in his October 2016 debate with Hillary Clinton. He said Roe v. Wade would be overturned "automatically" if he were elected thanks to the justices he would choose, meaning that the issue of abortion regulation would "go back to the individual states."
After that prediction came to pass last year, Trump called it "the biggest WIN for LIFE in a generation." He bragged that the Supreme Court's June 2022 decision in Dobbs v. Jackson Women's Health Organization was "only made possible because I delivered everything as promised, including nominating and getting three highly respected and strong Constitutionalists confirmed to the United States Supreme Court." But now that Dobbs has shifted public opinion and political energy toward abortion rights, Trump is trying to position himself as a moderate on the issue.
On NBC's Meet the Press last Sunday, host Kristen Welker asked Trump if he would "sign federal legislation that would ban abortion at 15 weeks." That cutoff would allow the vast majority of abortions—more than 93 percent, according to data from the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention. But Trump still was reluctant to endorse the idea.
"No, no," he replied. "Let me just tell you what I'd do. I'm going to come together with all groups, and we're going to have something that's acceptable. Right now, to my way of thinking, the Democrats are the radicals, because [they would allow abortion] after four and five and six months."
As that response makes clear, Trump's objection is not based on federalist principles. Last year, he told Fox News that Dobbs "brings everything back to the states, where it has always belonged." Now he is saying that, as president, he would hammer out "something that's acceptable," meaning he thinks the federal government does have a role in determining when and under what circumstances women may terminate their pregnancies.
That "something" apparently would not entail a 15-week ban, and it definitely would not entail a six-week ban, which Trump brought up as an example of legislation that clearly goes too far. He noted that Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis, his leading opponent in the Republican presidential contest, had signed such a "heartbeat" bill, which would prohibit most abortions. Trump described that law, which will take effect only if the Florida Supreme Court reverses precedent to uphold the state's prior 15-week ban, as "a terrible thing and a terrible mistake." But he assured Welker that "we will agree to a number of weeks, which will be where both sides will be happy."
Unlike Trump's pledge to appoint justices who would vote to overturn Roe, that promise is plainly impossible to keep. Whatever cutoff Trump settled on, it would not satisfy abortion rights supporters unless it went no further than existing regulations in states with the mildest restrictions. And it certainly would not satisfy opponents of abortion who view it as tantamount to murder.
More to the point, this is not how a "pro-life" politician talks. Just two days before his interview with Welker, in a speech at the Concerned Women of America Summit, Trump said he was "proud to be the most pro-life president in American history." To back up that claim, he noted that he was "the first sitting president ever to attend the March for Life rally right here in Washington, D.C." and that he had appointed three justices who joined the opinion in Dobbs. But if Trump rejects a six-week ban out of hand and is unwilling to endorse even a 15-week ban, he is clearly not "the most pro-life president in American history." George W. Bush, for example, opposed abortion except in cases of rape, incest, or a life-threatening danger to the mother.
DeSantis ripped Trump's position in a radio interview this week. "Protecting babies with heartbeats is not terrible," he said. "Donald Trump may think it's terrible. I think protecting babies with heartbeats is noble and just, and I'm proud to have signed the heartbeat bill in Florida."
More generally, DeSantis said Trump's avowed openness to compromise should worry abortion opponents. "Anytime he did a deal with Democrats, whether it was on [the] budget, whether it was on the criminal justice FIRST STEP Act, they ended up taking him to the cleaners," he said. If Trump is "gonna make the Democrats happy with respect to the right to life," he added, "I think all pro-lifers should know that he's preparing to sell you out."
Since Trump is beating DeSantis by more than 40 points in polling, his triangulation on abortion probably is not a serious threat to his prospects of winning the Republican nomination. "If support for Trump is the central plank of the new G.O.P. orthodoxy, then the pro-life movement will find its cause subordinated to Trump's ambitions as long as he reigns," New York Times columnist David French warns. "If he believes the pro-life movement helps him, the movement will enjoy the substantial benefits of his largess—for example, the nomination of pro-life judges, including the Supreme Court justices who helped overturn Roe v. Wade. But if he perceives the movement to be hurting his political ambitions—as his comments to Welker suggest he feels now—then its members will be cast as the heretics and will stand outside, in the cold, complaining about their lost influence to a Republican public that will not care."
There are sound reasons for Trump to think a hardline stance on abortion would hurt him in the general election. After a leaked, preliminary version of Dobbs was published on May 2, 2022, the share of Americans who told Gallup they thought abortion should be "illegal in all circumstances" dropped from 19 percent to 13 percent. Meanwhile, the percentage who say abortion should be legal in "all" circumstances has risen by a few points, and so has the percentage who say it should be legal in "certain" circumstances.
Even before Dobbs, the Pew Research Center likewise measured an increase in the share of Americans who say "most" or "all" abortions should be legal, which stood at 61 percent in March 2022. And "when abortion referendums have been placed on statewide ballots," French notes, "the pro-choice movement has won. Every time. Even in states as red as Kentucky, Kansas, and Montana."
Trump's current position, in other words, makes political sense. If he made opposition to abortion a prominent feature of his agenda, it could alienate potential supporters. Perhaps more important, it would tend to energize abortion rights supporters who favor Joe Biden but might otherwise stay home on Election Day.
At the same time, Trump's new wishy-washiness makes no logical or moral sense. As DeSantis notes, someone who opposes abortion in principle would never promise that his solution would make the other side "happy." But except on a few issues where Trump's current positions correspond with his longstanding instincts, such as trade and immigration, consistency has never been a concern for him.
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Whaaaaaaat? A lecherous straight bro who supports abortion?
Next you're gonna tell me there are silver-spoon billionaires who support open borders!
Surprising, isn't it.
Who values the inalienable right to life and is against “pro-life”?
Viability is a term that applies to all living things. It means the ability to continue living.
It doesn’t include being ripped from the environment that your body biologically requires for survival.
That we have changed and assigned that meaning to only unborn children is how we try to justify our genocide against them.
Baby: b. An unborn child; a fetus.
Viable:
able to work as intended or able to succeed:
able to continue to exist as or develop into a living being:
These are the ONLY definitions of viable in the Cambridge dictionary. They therefore apply in all contexts.
A viable pregnancy works as intended by going to full term resulting in the live birth of a baby. Exactly similarly a viable fetus works as intended inside the mother during pregnancy growing and emerging at birth.
Nothing works as intended aka is viable when it is intentionally destroyed as removing a baby from it’s mother prematurely does.
Only the genocidal definition of a viable fetus changes the basic meaning of viable, to require that a baby is can live when it is intentionally killed, in a feeble attempt to justify the genocide of the unborn.
Like throwing a woman into a river and proclaiming her a witch if she floats.
That is the improper use of language.
I have successfully refuted the genocidal definition of viable with correctly applied logic and science.
Abortion is responsible for the murder of over 60 million helpless innocent unborn human beings in the US alone. It is the greatest genocide in earths history.
Any place or person that allows it does not value the inalienable right to life.
There is no constitutional right to abortion.
With his Supreme Court appointments, he kicked abortion back to the states, which is better for the prolife cause than what was the case before. That’s all to his credit.
But he has no interest in being a prophetic voice warning Americans about their anti-life course. If we trivialize human life like this, then these smug “prochoice” voters will one day be having a “conversation” with medical personnel about getting snuffed, MAID-style.
A prolife politician could make these points, showing how disregard for human life is going to end up meaning disregard for *your,* the voter’s, life.
But Trump goes the other way.
With his make-both-sides-happy babblings, Trump may come as close as he’ll ever get to praise in the legacy media.
How about not leaving abortion up to the states, leave it up to individuals instead. No level of government should be involved in legislating abortion, people can make decisions about their own bodies just fine.
Some would argue that another person's body is involved.
Why get the government involved?
The libertarian approach would be to assign each fetus/child an indepenent arbitrator to protect their rights. Parents would raise their children in partnership with civilian lawyers, rather than government bureaucrats.
Riiiight. And who appoints that independent arbitrator?
Your understanding of "libertarian" qualifies you for a Reason staff position.
The libertarian approach would be to assign each fetus/child an indepenent arbitrator to protect their rights.
Yeah, this somehow isn't a government body? Give me a break.
This is a libertarian issue because it weighs on the rights-the rights of the mother, and the rights of the unborn. Libertarianism doesn't have the answer because libertarianism doesn't include definitions on when people obtain personhood, but your own personal answer to that question will give you the libertarian position. If you believe a fetus is a person, it therefore has the right to life. If you believe a fetus is a clump of cells, the mother has all the rights in that exchange. That's how you break this down to the libertarian answer-you let individuals decide what their base definitions are.
*Who* appoints the lawyer? *Who* pays for the lawyer?
Why should cops get involved with murders. Let the people deal with it.
Assigning people to represent the baby is still government.
Do you think if someone had their head up your *ss and you chopped it off you should be charged with murder?
"Some would argue that another person’s body is involved."
Then it should be allowed to be set free not en-caged in a womb.
So you're fine with being able to abandon babies? Eh, 3 years old is old enough to be able to scavenge from a dumpster, right?
No limits you want.
Free-Range Kids.
I second this short that every Individual should have at-will fetal ejection.
>>host Kristen Welker
this woman should not be professionally cited.
Really think Sullum is intentionally reading too much into Trump's comment. Trump typically goes off topic in interviews so I'm not sure he was talking about federal legislation versus federalism. Sounded more like a bring people together and arrive at some kind of consensus thing. He pointedly goes after late term and heartbeat laws as too radical. If he endorses federal abortion bans I will stand corrected but at this point I'm not convinced that that's his position.
He's always intentionally reading too much into Trump's comments.
Sullum has a bad case of TDS. For two-plus years now he's been screaming 'the wallz r clozin' in!!11111'
The difference between his writing on addiction/prohibition and his writing on Trump is night and day.
Yeah, old Jacob is completely a proponent for his personal opinions, cherry-picking data to support them. He likes drugs and abortion. Hates Trump. Nuf said.
It's all attack the right (and/or Trump) here.
Trump was never pro-life but he was willing to work on it for his voters. He also acknowledges that pro-abortion advocates endorse evil. Go figure that a guy who is moderate on an issue would seek a compromise
“Trump was never pro-life”
You can see that, I can see that, a lot of others can see that — but, do you acknowledge there is a sizable Trump following who think he actually holds pro-life ethical convictions?
Do you have a citation for your bald assertion? He is better than abortion anytime democrats.
Dobbs didn't change that one bit -- "abortion anytime democrats".
I’m going to make an assertion without much evidence here, Trump voters hate your kind and want to rub your filthy face in the dirt for what you’ve done to the country.
Now go fuck yourself
Arriving at some kind of consensus about weeks was the whole point of Roe v Wade. That consensus worked well.
This has become the standard tactic of Reasonistas: Assume that a Pro-Life Republican is going to lockdown every woman's womb in a massive violation of civil liberties. And if they moderate at all, complain that they are hypocrites.
Personally, I would think that you'd be happy that someone- even Trump- is vowing to find a compromise. The only people who would dislike that are ideologues who would not settle for anything other than unfettered abortion in the 4th trimester or people who want to ban any action after conception.
"people who want to ban any action after conception."
Depends what you mean by "action", but that's me. Non-viable pregnancies like ectopic, fetal death or a partial miscarriage necessitate medical intervention; but contrary to Democrats assertions nobody on earth opposes that.
Otherwise, any other "action" violates the NAP. Mom already made her choice when she took the dick.
I agree morally that anything after conception is a violation, but I also feel that, in practice, a country trying to enforce this line would visit far more immorality upon the public. I believe child abuse is a horrible wrong, and yet believe that the State has been waaaaaay overpowered in its attempts to stop it. Just as I believe terrorism is wrong, but that the USA PATRIOT Act is far more immoral.
I would much rather find a place of compromise that pulls this off the table as a hot-button issue, and then begin the long journey of convincing the nation that abortion is an abomination. Half of them don't believe this.
We used to have a compromise. The 'liberal' European states that Democrats say we should be emulating have a compromise (but we shouldn't emulate them here!!111).
That was 12-15 weeks you got 'no questions asked' abortion access. After that there were increasing limits up to the third trimester, after that it was off the table except for medical necessity.
The Left lost that compromise when they started pushing for on-demand abortion up to birth (and past for some extremists). That was enough to rile up the conservatives and give them enough to get the last USSC justices they needed to tear it all down.
Still though - half the country is 'open-season' as far as abortions go. And I can tell you from experience, even poor people can afford to drive across the border for a day to get an abortion. I see it get done here in Arizona.
They didn't tear anything down.
Dobbs had absolutely ZERO effect on post-viable abortion.
Good grief! It's like no-one even knew what Roe v Wade ruled or what Dobbs ruled.
“Mom already made her choice when she took the dick.”
Further, the child conceived in rape wasn’t involved in the rape and shouldn’t be killed for it. Heck, we no longer kill *rapists,* not even child-rapists. Why kill their innocent children?
Do you at least acknowledge that your belief on this one is controversial?
I didn't so much as imply anything else.
I don't like other commenters making death threats against you - I'm prolife, after all - but that doesn't mean I agree with your particular method of arguing.
I didn’t even get to arguing with you about anything. I was just asking you a question to try to figure out what you believe.
I guess you like making bold declarations about your righteous beliefs, but don’t like anyone asking follow-up questions.
I never denied it was controversial, so I'm not sure why you thought that was some kind of gotcha.
Because killing innocent children is just Pro-Life Propaganda BS.
When Power-Mad takes over one's cognitive abilities.
A more accurate comparison would be putting the government in charge of when/who/where someone on life support gets their plug pulled.
That's a bad analogy that you cannot win. There are a huge number of laws involved in when you can withdraw life support. Doctors won't normally do it, but deliberately sabotaging care can definitely be murder.
In the end, laws on abortion are concerning the definition of murder.
You can argue one way or another, but pretending that there's no debate to be had is nonsensical.
Care to share those laws? Do they consist of organ donation?
Not granting something else your body organs is hardly a deliberate sabotage. My gosh; this entitlement disease in the population is absurd.... i.e. "If you don't hand over your $ you're purposely sabotaging my happiness???!!!???".
If you cannot support ?baby? freedom (i.e. fetal ejection)
UR supporting Gov-Gun FORCED reproduction.
It doesn't get any more obvious than that.
Non-viable pregnancies like ectopic, fetal death or a partial miscarriage necessitate medical intervention; but contrary to Democrats assertions nobody on earth opposes that.
Horseshit. Those non-viable pregnancies are the reason for MOST third trimester abortions. ‘Fetal health’ is not something that is known/discoverable at conception. It is not something that becomes magically complete when there is ‘heartbeat’. The obvious biological function of pregnancy is that the fetus DEVELOPS. That means CHANGES for you moronic assholes. And not all those changes work to increase health.
eg Anencephaly can only be diagnosed later in a pregnancy and obviously only after a mother meets with an obgyn. Well – 2% of mothers have NO prenatal care and 13% have ‘inadequate’ prenatal (meaning nothing in the first four months and less than one meeting every two months after that). You people want that number to go UP – and in fact those numbers are higher in states with heartbeat type restriction even with Medicaid (which you folks don’t want).
Even if you people gave a shit about fetal health (which you don’t) – or maternal health/liberty (which you don’t) – or maternity medical care (which you don’t); the effect of this focus on ‘heartbeat’ is to impose a total freeze on all medical information that might be actionable after six weeks and to instead make obgyn a purely state decision.
Sullum, you can be pro-life while still believing that its a complicated subject and thus shouldn't be completely illegal for those that believe otherwise.
You can be pro-choice without believing that abortion up to the (or past!) the moment of birth should be permissable.
You can run for office while believing that abortion should be completely illegal but understand that the vast majority of the country disagrees with you and thus its something that you won't make any traction on and so should just leave it alone - its called 'political compromise'.
You can even be rabidly pro-choice and vote for a rabidly pro-life candidate because you consider their other political positions to be way more important and you're not a one-issue voter.
you can be pro-life while still believing that its a complicated subject
You can't be libertarian while still believing that the state is the entity that is the most capable of making complicated decisions.
This whole article is complaining that Trump doesn't have a coherent abortion policy - despite it being something that the USSC has ruled is not a matter the federal government has any authority over?
If the federal government has no authority over it, which is why the power to control it moved back to the state, then what does it matter what the President's stance on abortion is?
You kind of ate your own argument there.
It's not fed-gov its USSC that's why fed-gov power went back to state?
The power didn't go back to the state. The USSC ruled the federal government never had the power in the first place. Its not an enumerated power of the federal government.
You've posted several replies to me in this thread that suggest you're not actually reading what I wrote.
“The USSC ruled the federal government never had the power in the first place.”
Roe v Wade wasn’t federal legislation power. Roe v Wade already ruled the federal government didn’t have any power to stomp all over the Individual Right for people to be secure in their persons.
Dobbs cancelled that Individual Right and allowed the State’s to violate it.
You’re bias-ly picking one and pretending it was federal power (It wasn’t. It was the exact opposite) and using it as an excuse for MORE state power.
New?
Let's quote Trump's own book The America We Deserve, pages 31-32, from back when he was trying to run for President on the Reform Party ticket back in 2000:
Right. I've never had the impression that Trump was pro life in any ideological way. He did work to accommodate his supporters who are by nominating judges who returned the matter to the states. The controversy is out of his hands at this point and presumably if he's elected again.
I can't seem to find the reference to
"He said Roe v. Wade would be overturned "automatically"
the Hill article actually says
"but stopped short of saying they would overturn Roe v. Wade"
Sooooooo... Either I missed it or Reason is just lying now.
Trump is a Pro-Choice within reason Anti-Socialist mostly USA patriot.
THAT is why he has garnished such a following.
And why the socialists are angry as h*ll about him.
trump is a pro-trump-profit fascist with the ability to mumble things that morons think means he agrees with them, when he really hates every single one if his supporters
I don’t look to Daddy-Gov for special treatment that makes me feel special so I really don’t care if Trump hates me or not. I also don’t run around being fascist like the left does while calling everyone who doesn’t support fascism a fascist. (i.e. Self-Projection)
Abortion has already cost the republicans the midterms, continuing down this dark road will only cost 24 as well. Trump understands that no republican will ever be elected president with an antiabortion platform. Moderation is the only chance he or any republican has. The question is whether he or any republican can convince the people. The party must turn this issue over to the voters and let them decide, if they fail to do this the election is lost.
They did turn every ********INDIVIDUAL*********** pregnant Woman's reproduction system over to the voters of the State via Representative "democracy". That is the very problem with Dobbs and the whole Pro-Life [WE] mob RULES your pregnant wife stance. It's a MASSIVE violation of a persons right to be secure in their persons.
They are literally making organ donation mandatory for 'potential' life. Are you willing to give up the ownership-rights to your body organs for a 'potential' life by gun-force? Heck. If it was pushed a second before conception it would be legislated gun-forced rape.
The same way "they" turned every human being's circulatory system, digestive system, and skin over to voters: medical procedures are regulated and restricted by state and federal governments.
You can't get an elective amputation, you can't get an elective heart transplant, and you can't get an elective abortion.
That doesn't sound true at all. Facelifts, dentistry (tooth removal), surgical wart removal, liposuction even sex changes all are done by elective.
It’s odd, though, that Trump would think that at this point anything he says is going to sway anyone’s opinion about him one way or the other. It’s hard to believe that there’s any voter out there who doesn’t have a pretty set opinion of Trump by now.
...because Trump has already had 4-Years to show how his presidency would go and it didn't end with $33T debt, 20% Inflation, Tax Increases, Massive Invasion, Marshal Lock-downs, Doubling IRS Collection forces, Shutting down pipelines, Banning vehicles and Gov-Ran Media.
But you can bet your *ss if he does that leftarded sh*t he'll be despised just as much as Biden. Leftards are the only one's who have loyalty without reason because their very premise is 'our' [WE] mob has to RULE.
no it ended with an attempted fascist takover after four years of mindless drifting and grifting
...more leftard projection from the grifters (*free* money everywhere!) crowd.
Isn't that amazing for what it says about opinions generally? It seems to say that a substantial fraction of people lie when they say what they want.
The majority of Republican voters supported Roe v Wade. This is the perfect example of minority loud-mouthed lobbyists controlling the party politicians.
According to Reason, unless you take the radical positions on abortion ("until birth", or "never"), your stance on abortion is just a "pose". Has it occurred to you that people with a certain set of beliefs might be willing to compromise? Nah.
Reason is as polarizing and divisive as the rest of the MSM.
We compromise on practically everything in life. Why are abortions supposed to be an exception to this phenomenon?
All part the ever-growing never-ending enterprise of [WE] mob communism/socialism governing. The very curse is in the ideology.
I don't think a persons "set of beliefs" (religion) that doesn't concretely concern them what-so-ever should be a part of legislatures (government).
A 6-week ban doesn't protect 'babies with heartbeats'. It protects tadpole-looking clumps of cells with human DNA and some erratic electrical impulses.
Only a religious zealot or a political propagandist calls that a 'baby'.
C'mon. Maybe 15 weeks starts to resemble a fetus more. 6-weeks? It boggles the mind that anyone could think that's worth more than a raped 12 year old or a woman who doesn't want to risk pregnancy, (which still has a significant impact on a woman's health).
Oh no ! It's like Trump has no actual stance and only says what he thinks will get him elected at the time; no matter if he has to fake being a
Democrat, Independent, Republican.I think the only group he hasn't tried to doppelganger into is the Green Party; and that's only because they have no power.