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Spending Other People's Money

Plus: Separating child poverty facts from fiction, EU will ban payments for sperm and blood, and more...

Liz Wolfe | 9.19.2023 9:30 AM

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National debt exceeds $33 trillion, but no one seems to care. With a government shutdown possibly happening sometime over the next two weeks if there's no spending deal in Congress, the U.S. national debt has quietly slipped past the $33 trillion mark for the first time. It is on track to exceed $50 trillion by the decade's end. "The increase in debt over the last 20 years was overwhelmingly driven by the trillions spent on Republican tax cuts skewed to the wealthy and big corporations," a White House spokesperson told The New York Times. 

But this wholly ignores Democrats' massive spending, which they say will have no dire consequences (ever!). The Inflation Reduction Act, for example, was estimated to cost $400 million but will cost something more like $1 trillion. It also does lots of things that are not inflation-reducing at all, not even if you squint. As Reason's Eric Boehm has argued, it's basically "a pared-down version of what Biden originally pitched as the 'Build Back Better' plan—it leaves aside much of the original bill's spending, but it maintains a huge corporate tax increase, huge spending on green energy initiatives, and a plan to swell the ranks of IRS agents." Some pandemic relief programs promoted by Democrats have either been wasteful or plagued by fraud, like the Employee Retention Credit ("The I.R.S. is freezing the program because of fears about fraud and abuse," reports the Times) and the Paycheck Protection Program, which Reason has covered extensively.

Setting the blame game aside, there are massive implications that could stem from this addiction to spending. In the future, rising debt levels could make it harder for businesses to borrow money, kneecapping growth; rising debt could also mean massive inflation—even worse than what we've been contending with.

"This town is addicted to spending other people's money," commented Rep. Eli Crane (R–Ariz.) on X. "Enough is enough."

Zelenskyy cleans house. Six of Ukraine's top defense ministers were fired by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday ahead of his visit to Washington, D.C., and to New York, where he will address the United Nations. Roiled by reports of corruption, some have speculated that Zelenskyy needs to get his house in order before he makes big asks for U.S. aid, but no official reasoning for the defense ministry shakeup has been given. Defense Chief Oleksii Reznikov was axed by Zelenskyy earlier this month.

In other news, Ukraine has recaptured the village of Klishchiivka, near Bakhmut, which is Zelenskyy's "second significant gain in three days in [Ukraine's] grueling counteroffensive against the Russian army," per Reuters.

What's going on with the child poverty rate? "The poverty rate rose to 12.4 percent in 2022 from 7.8 percent in 2021, the largest one-year jump on record," reported The New York Times last week after the release of new Census Bureau data. "Poverty among children more than doubled, to 12.4 percent, from a record low of 5.2 percent the year before." 

But it's a bit thornier than that. Poverty in America is measured in two ways: via the Official Poverty Measure (OPM), which uses cash and cash-like government benefits (welfare and unemployment checks), and the Supplemental Poverty Measure (SPM), which factors in food stamps and tax credits. Depending on which measure you look at, you'll get a different sense of how dire (or not) the situation is. For example, stimulus checks, expanded food stamp benefits, and expanded child tax credits were counted only under the SPM (not the OPM). When they expired last year, the poverty rate (as counted by the SPM) rose. "The decline in the child poverty rate between 2021 and 2022 under the OPM was statistically insignificant," according to Matt Weidinger and Scott Winship at the American Enterprise Institute. "Because the undercounting of UI [unemployment insurance] benefits made the 2021 official rate too high, it's likely that a better-measured version would have shown an increase this year."

Besides, "there have been only three years with a lower child poverty rate in US history—2019, 1973, and 1969." And, "had inflation—partly caused by massive spending in 2021—been lower, the OPM might have reached an all-time low." Things are, by and large, getting better all the time.


Scenes from New York:

VIDEO THREAD: This morning in New York City, climate activists blockaded the entrances to the NY Federal Reserve.

NYPD quickly issued a warning over an LRAD and began arresting activists one by one.

"We need clean air, not another billionaire!" they chanted while refusing to… pic.twitter.com/wCUv16f6af

— Ford Fischer (@FordFischer) September 18, 2023


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  • "I was a little too eccentric … I'm on the edge of a lot of things," said Rep. Lauren Boebert (R–Colo.) in response to reports that she got handsy with her beau (and him with her) at a performance of "Beetlejuice." Boebert reportedly also got into trouble for vaping in the theater, which is the most relatable she's ever been.
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  1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    National debt exceeds $33 trillion, but no one seems to care.

    Dollar ain't worth nothing anymore anyway. Suckers.

    1. mamabug   2 years ago

      Is it also taxed to no end?

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        It's a damn shame.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      the trillions spent on Republican tax cuts

      How strange, I would have figured it was the trillions spent by Congress, instead.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

        Peanut Corollary #4 says that “When a Republican is president Congress is to blame for high spending and when a Dem is president with a GOP Congress he (the president) is responsible for high spending”.

        ML, Jesse, Troll-logic, Sevo the Retard, etc all believe this.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          So answer the question, Plugstick: Whose exercises legislative authority in the establishment of an annual budget for the government? Who mandates the spending where? Who approves the budget?

          I don't need a big weasely essay full of caveats either. Just a name will suffice.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Literally nobody says this, but the inverse is exactly what you do.

          #DefendDemocratsAtAllCosts

        3. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          LMAO... The POINT is Democrats (being either in Congress-Majority or the White House) is to blame for high spending. They do change ya know......

          Unlike say trying to credit Obama for a Republican Congress limiting his massive spending tendencies that went unchecked during his Democrat-trifecta 1st Term.

          Gosh your dumb.

    3. Ronsch   2 years ago

      The dollar is currently higher than it's been in years. Look it up.

      1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

        LMAO... That's why we're experiencing deflation and everything costs less right?
        UR a such a joke.

    4. CE   2 years ago

      If voters cared about the debt, they would have elected Ross Perot, or Ron Paul, or Rand Paul, or Gary Johnson, or Harry Browne. But they didn't.

  2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Poor sarc.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Poor sarc.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Pour Sarc.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Poor sarc?

  3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    Boebert reportedly also got into trouble for vaping in the theater, which is the most relatable she's ever been.

    Vaping is more “relatable “ than a hand job?

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      My take was both the vaping and the fondling made her more relatable. Tells us more about Liz then Boebert.

      1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        To be fair, if I was sitting in the theater trying to enjoy the show, and a couple of grown-ass adults are being obnoxious and acting like overgrown teenagers, I'd probably tell them to shut the fuck up and get them kicked out myself.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          I bet you are fun at parties.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Yeah, that's the kind of passive-aggressive response I expected.

          2. Dillinger   2 years ago

            seriously. at least try to join in first

        2. Nelson   2 years ago

          Damn it, Red Rocks! I hate having to agree with you. Can you go back to being unreasonable?

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      Vaping is more “relatable “ than a hand job?

      To a hipster, maybe.

    3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Hand jobs are like the wnba, it's a chicks horrible attempt to do something men are naturally better at

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        I’m willing to suffer along.

    4. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I know, right? People who vape in the store where I work are so trashy and illiterate/a-literate! We have to remind them that our sign says: "No Smoking OR Vaping." Evidently, they think flavored Nicotine water is no big thing, even though it has made me cough before.

  4. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    The European Union will likely ban payments for sperm, milk, and blood. "A ban on paid donations within the EU will thus decrease the quantity of plasma supplied from Germany, Austria, Hungary, and the Czech Republic and force the EU to rely even more on imports from the US," writes Alex Tabarrok.

    We have the good stuff anyway.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Sounds like supper ingredients at Sqrlsy's.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        They didn't mention feces, so he can still find something to eat.

      2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        Thanks for that visual. Eww.

    2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      So where did the whole "my body, my choice" thing go?
      Or is that only when dead babies are the result?

    3. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "sperm, milk, and blood"

      Ahhh yes, the three humors.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Also an album title of the Red Hot Chili Peppers.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Quit shitting up the thread, you cretin.

            Aren't you supposed to be mopping up jizz off the bath-house floors in the Tenderloin?

            1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

              He's not shitting up the thread. He's making relevant observations that everyone here agrees with.

            2. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

              You shit up every thread you comment in.

            3. NealAppeal   2 years ago

              Just because you produced a fairly benign comment doesn't mean you aren't still a pedo and everyone needs to know it.

            4. R Mac   2 years ago

              Shitting up threads? I remember the time you got an entire thread nuked after posting links to child pornography.

        2. SusanM   2 years ago

          White Zombie, actually.

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=loMpBQyooH8

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Six of Ukraine's top defense ministers were fired by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday...

    Downed airplanes or it didn't happen.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      They weren’t good enough at hiding theft of US Aid.

      1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

        The big guy didn't get his 10%.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Atlantic Council did most likely. Which means Dems got their cut. Just too much heat on Joe at the moment.

    2. Unable2Reason   2 years ago

      Probably fake firings à la Michael Scott. Zelenskyy: "Just play along with me."

    3. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      They'll quietly bring them back once the next check clears.

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      “…..Zelensky needs to get his house in order before he makes big asks for U.S. aid….”

      Lol. Yeah, sure he does…. They might say no!

      Imagine being stupid enough to believe this.

  6. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    This morning in New York City, climate activists blockaded the entrances to the NY Federal Reserve. NYPD quickly issued a warning over an LRAD and began arresting activists one by one..

    Surprised they didn’t just herd them over to a freeway that the unwashed use on the way to their hourly jobs.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Always a quicker reaction when government is affected.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      It's odd that that's the item from NYC that makes the morning links, and not something like the city plan for removing statues of founding fathers of the US and other historic figures:

      https://nypost.com/2023/09/18/nyc-council-advances-bid-that-could-yank-monuments-honoring-washington-jefferson-columbus/

      Which, as you may recall, someone was mocked just a few years back, for suggesting it could happen once we allowed the woke mob to start pulling down other monuments:

      https://twitter.com/ColumbiaBugle/status/1339383077865320448

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        British Diet Shrike said the only statues being removed were confederate ones.

        1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

          British diet Shrike is a moron. In other news, in a shocking twist it turns out water is actually wet. Film at 11.

      2. TrickyVic (old school)   2 years ago

        It might be hard for the city to remove a statue that is protected by the feds.

        https://orderisda.org/culture/news/nyc-columbus-statue-listed-on-national-register-of-historic-places/

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          There is more than one statue of Columbus in Central Park, let alone all of NYC.

          https://www.google.com/maps/@40.7699191,-73.9727193,3a,88.6y,259.49h,91.78t/data=!3m6!1e1!3m4!1sp0QyjsUNisjnYpOmegGoVg!2e0!7i13312!8i6656?authuser=0&entry=ttu

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Why is that odd? After all a different person, not you, wrote the morning links. Wouldn’t it be much more odd if she chose all the same topics you would have?

        1. Uilleam   2 years ago

          Does ENB make you sleep on the couch if you don't defend her in the links?

          1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

            Don't be absurd. ENB has never even acknowledged his presence. He simps because he knows nothing else.

      4. CE   2 years ago

        No more Columbus? I thought New York City was home to a lot of Italians.

      5. CE   2 years ago

        They already took down a statue of actual Progressive Theodore Roosevelt because there was an Indian and a Black man standing behind him.

  7. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Steve Hayward says Mitt Romney is a monster

    Kurt Schlichter illustrates why: That Miserable Bag Of Goo Mitt Romney Slinks Away Humiliated

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Willard Romney = perhaps the last honest Republican.

      I will always remember the 2016 "Fatass Donnie is a Con Man" speech warning the party about the incoming MAGA Cult.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Remember when democrats called him a Nazi. Obama supporters especially.

        https://thehill.com/blogs/blog-briefing-room/news/124572-romney-campaign-tells-obama-to-rein-in-his-supporters-on-nazi-comments/

        Good times. Reigned in Mitt really well.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          To a prog any conservative is a Nazi just like any wingnut calls any liberal a "socialist".

          Bear in mind that actual Nazi Aryan Supremacists are happy to join the GOP - just as your Democratic "Socialists" join forces with the Dems.

          Each party is a melting pot of bad ideas.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            Weird. It was Hillary who got endorsements from KKK and Biden got Spencer.

            https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8660529/Richard-Spencer-endorses-Joe-Biden-Bidens-campaign-says-support-not-welcome.html

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              And Jews vote Dem at an 80% clip. More than 40 Jews in Congress and only one is Republican?

              Does that make 20% of Jews Nazis? Of course not.

              Look up this word, pal

              OUTLIER. def a person or thing situated away or detached from the main body or system:
              "less accessible islands and outliers"
              a person or thing differing from all other members of a particular group or set:

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                turd lies. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                What a weird non sequitur.

                1. R Mac   2 years ago

                  More retarded than normal.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Which is saying something since Pluggo is normally extremely retarded.

              3. Nobartium   2 years ago

                20% is not an outlier, retarded child-porn spreader.

                1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                  Spnecer IS an outlier, dipshit. Jesse thinks "spencer" proves some of his puerile bullshit.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    I showed an example of a well known member. You've made a bald assertion. LOL.

                    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                      I showed an example of a well known member

                      The very definition of an "outlier", you moron.

                    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      No. Definition of sourced evidence dumdum.

                    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "ReTHUGlicans are all secretly dogwhistle rAciSt!!!!"

                      "Here's a bunch of famous outspoken racists who support the Democrats"

                      "Those are oUtLiErS, dipshit!!!!"

                      Lol.

              4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

                I’d say that the two dozen or so nazis are much more of an outlier for team red than the socialists are for team blue.

                I’ve always been “a pox on both their houses” kinda guy, but team blue is much, much worse.

                You do you though, idiot.

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Nazi Aryan Supremacists are happy to join the GOP

            And yet they always endorse Democrats.

        2. DesigNate   2 years ago

          I bet if you dig deep enough, you’d find a shrike comment doing the same.

      2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "Willard Romney = perhaps the last honest Republican."

        Remember Pierre Delecto? He was Democratic Party tier honest too.

      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      4. Á àß äẞç ãþÇđ âÞ¢Đæ ǎB€Ðëf ảhf   2 years ago

        Quit shitting up the comments.

      5. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        And then Romney went sucking up to Trump for a federal appointment and was publicly humiliated.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Good point.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      I wouldn't call Romney a "bad person" like Schlicter does. His problem is, and was, the same as a lot of 90s-era GOP stars that tried to have their moment in the sun during the Obama years (which I actually start from the 2004 convention when the press determined that they were going to make him the next President)--he allowed his political opponents to weaponize his principles against him while never slugging back, and spent WAY too much time courting the favor of a left-wing press that was happy to use him as a cat's paw against their political enemies.

      The Kemp Republicans (what few there are left who haven't gone over completely to the Democrats) remained baffled as to why the GOP base remains loyal to Trump despite all the drama that's come with him, and while they acknowledge it, they can't intellectually reconcile the fact that Trump is still the runaway front-runner simply because he doesn't mind getting down in the muck with the people they despise, instead of constantly begging for political scraps in service to "moving the ball forward."

      It's funny that a political faction that's so hung up on holding the right to "principle" will readily compromise them if it thinks it can get ANY kind of political deal done with the left, irrespective of whether such a deal will actually follow those same principles. For all their fancy talk, their only real principle seems to be maintaining political amiability at any cost.

      The minute Romney rolled over and showed his belly in the second debate with Obama was the final break between the neocon establishment and the GOP base that had been building since the 2006 mid-term wipeout.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        “I wouldn’t call Romney a “bad person” like Schlicter does”

        What’s his voting record on drugs, wars, and gun control laws?

    3. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      Hilarious.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    And, "had inflation—partly caused by massive spending in 2021—been lower, the OPM might have reached an all-time low."

    See? The OPM is not the president's policies' fault at all.

    1. Social Justice is neither   2 years ago

      So more Sam Harris "had everything been different I would have been right" delusion from Democrats.

  9. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    What's going on with the child poverty rate? "The poverty rate rose to 12.4 percent in 2022 ..

    Monocle polishing doesn’t pay what it used to.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      “The poverty rate rose to 12.4 percent in 2022"

      Buttplug's post Covid drilling rig increase and spitting tabacky futures will ameliorate that.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        It is pretty sad that kids are having a harder time affording their spitting tabacky.

    2. Sometimes a Great Notion   2 years ago (edited)
    3. CE   2 years ago

      Inflation went up faster than benefits.

  10. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

    “The increase in debt over the last 20 years was overwhelmingly driven by the trillions spent on Republican tax cuts skewed to the wealthy and big corporations,” a White House spokesperson told The New York Times.

    But this wholly ignores Democrats’ massive spending, which they say will have no dire consequences (ever!).

    Republican faith says that all tax cuts (Laffer Curve to the extreme) stimulate the economy, and Democrat faith says all government spending (they call it investment) stimulates the economy.

    The result is both parties raising the debt while blaming the other.

    1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

      Re-BUTT-all: Butt the True Faithful here ALL KNOW that ALL of the blame goes to "Team D", and NONE of shit goes to "Team R"! It is KNOWN, dammit!!! (Dare to deny that, and ye are a "leftist"!)

      Strict adherence to the above is the ONLY way forwards towards TRUE Progress!!! OBEY ye the Republican Church, and its Infallible Theologians!

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        Tell us again about how you're not tribal, Shillsy.

        1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

          Speaking of Infallible Theologians of "Team R", here She is!

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Thanks, now tell us again about how you’re not tribal, Shillsy.

            1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

              I for one can’t STAND the idea that a casual reader here of a libertarian news and commenting site would read the vapid and vile comments, and conclude, “Oh, so THAT’s what libertarians are all about!” No, it’s just that libertarians (and VERY few others) still believe in free speech, so the troglodytes come HERE, where their vile lies & vapid insults will NOT be taken down!

              The intelligent, well-informed, and benevolent members of tribes have ALWAYS been feared and resented by those who are made to look relatively worse (often FAR worse), as compared to the advanced ones. Especially when the advanced ones denigrate tribalism. The advanced ones DARE to openly mock “MY Tribe’s lies leading to violence against your tribe GOOD! Your tribe’s lies leading to violence against MY Tribe BAD! VERY bad!” And then that’s when the Jesus-killers, Mahatma Gandhi-killers, Martin Luther King Jr.-killers, etc., unsheath their long knives!

              “Do-gooder derogation” (look it up) is a socio-biologically programmed instinct. SOME of us are ethically advanced enough to overcome it, using benevolence and free will! For details, see http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Do_Gooders_Bad/ and http://www.churchofsqrls.com/Jesus_Validated/ .

              In conclusion, troglodytes, thanks for helping me to prove my points!

              Then they crucified Jesus, 'cause Jesus made them look bad! ALSO because Jesus made them look bad FOR THEIR STUPID, HIDE-BOUND TRIBALISM! "The parable of the Good Samaritan" was VERY pointed, because the Samaritans were of the WRONG tribe, in the eyes of "Good Jews" of the day.

              1. Sevo   2 years ago

                More keyboard diarrhea from the spastic asshole!

              2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                Now take a deep breath and tell us again about how YOU'RE not tribal.

                1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

                  I belong to the data-driven tribe of truth and benevolence, which spans fractions of ALL other tribes, butt clearly does NOT include YOUR Perfectly UGLY (malevolent, narcissistic, power-addicted, self-righteous) ass.

                  You resent the hell out of the fact that many other people are flat-out, better, more honest people than you are, right? More “live and let live”, and WAAAY less authoritarian?
                  https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/in-love-and-war/201706/why-some-people-resent-do-gooders
                  From the conclusion to the above…
                  These findings suggest that we don’t need to downplay personal triumphs to avoid negative social consequences, as long as we make it clear that we don’t look down on others as a result.

                  SQRLSY back here now… So, I do NOT want you to feel BAD about YOU being an authoritarian asshole, and me NOT being one! PLEASE feel GOOD about you being an evil, lying asshole! You do NOT need to push me (or other REAL lovers of personal liberty) down, so that you can feel better about being an asshole! EVERYONE ADORES you for being that asshole that you are, because, well, because you are YOU! FEEL that self-esteem, now!

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Letting people keep more of the money they made is the same as government spending money they don’t have.

      /sarc

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        /sarcasmic

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

        I am so retarded that I think sarc just said taxing and spending are the same thing. Hurr durr.

        How long ’till we get to the zoo?

        /Dlam

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          PUT ME BACK ON MUTE

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

            I’ll be happy to just as soon as you stop retardedly dropping retarded replies on my posts like the retarded retard that you are.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Sarc is a living walking meme.

              https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/i-was-only-pretending-to-be-retarded

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          I mean that was the inference from your post dumdum. Why multiple people picked up on it.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Resident retards infer the same retarded inference. Go retards!

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              It is very clear youre comparing tax cuts to gov spending. Are you too dumb to understand your own posts?

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                No, retard. I'm saying that both parties are to blame for the debt because one cuts revenue while the other increases spending. Your stupidity makes my head hurt, and as a general rule I never get headaches. But you literally make my head hurt. I'm signing out. Sinking to your level of retardation is more than I can handle right now.

                1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  both parties are to blame

                  Also known as equal.

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  So you are against both spending and tax cuts. Like everyone here read from your first post.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    I never said what I was for or against. I was making an observation.

                    If you had asked instead of telling me what I think, I would have said "Fuck you, cut spending."

                    But you wouldn't be you if you didn't make shit up and argue against it.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                      Mike tries this same bullshit. Doesn’t work for him either dumbass. Lol.

                      You equated the two fucktard.

                    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I was talking about the religious tenets of the parties, and their result. That's it. Everything that follows exists only in your head.

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      I didn't equate anything. That's the voices in your head again.

                      Do you do this to people in person? By that I mean do you tell them what they think and what they mean, and call them names when they disagree? I think not, because your face would be hamburger if you did. So why do you do it online?

                    4. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      I honestly don't know why you try to lie about your comments in the same very thread you make them sarc. Everyone here saw what you attempted to do. Then you run and deny it. Lol.

                    5. TJJ2000   2 years ago (edited)

                      Where the misunderstanding occurred, “both parties ?raising? the debt”.

                      Not paying a debt =/= raising a debt.
                      And Less Stealing (tax cut) =/= More Stealing (spending).

                      Petty-wording difference but a difference none the less.

                3. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Lol, that’s the post of a broken man.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Been broken for a while lol.

        3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          It might help if you could link properly.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

            youtube.com/watch?v=bfrQ8ZutmLE

            Can't get anchor tags to work. Reason translates it into something else.

            1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              Always somebody else’s fault.

        4. R Mac   2 years ago

          “The result is both parties raising the debt while blaming the other.”

          Literally your last sentence in the post.

      3. Zeb   2 years ago

        But they keep printing money, so they're going to get it from you one way or another.

        1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

          +10000000... Well Said... The Inflation Tax.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      And sarc comes put swinging against letting people keep their own money. Truly the one true libertarian position. Government theft is liberty guys.

      The same asshole crying about any tariff despite it being under a percent of taxation.

      Clueless ignorant inconsistent moron.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        How would you fund government? Debt? Wishful thinking? Unicorn farts?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Tariffs were the greatest (approaching 95% at times) source of federal revenue until the federal income tax began after 1913. For well over a century the federal government was largely financed by tariffs averaging about 20% on foreign imports.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Tariffs are taxes, retard. Besides, at that time the government was miniscule compared to today. But go ahead and claim the tiny federal government of a century ago is the same as the Leviathan we have today, and that it can be financed by import taxes. My goodness your retardation never ceases to amaze.

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              You know what else are taxes? Taxes. Which youre saying need to be raised.

              Holy fuck are you incompetent.

              Small amount of taxes with tariffs bad. Raising massive taxes good. – sarc.

              Former to dissuade anti market actions by foreign actors, the latter to fund anti market actions by the government. Lol.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Where did I say taxes need to be raised?

                I pointed out that one party cuts taxes as an article of faith while the other increases spending as an article of faith, meaning that they're both to blame.

                From that you infer I want to raise taxes? How fucking stupid are you?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Read your post and get back to us. You're comparing taxes to spending and saying taxes are needed to decrease the deficit... mouth out the words sarc.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    I made an observation about the tenets of the two parties.

                    Why is it that you interpret that to mean I want more taxes? Why not interpret it to mean I want less spending?

                    Oh yeah. Because you're a liar and a shameless sack of shit.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      No. You didn't. You equated the two as the same bad policy. Youre against lower taxes. You can try to walk back abd lie about what you said but you have multiple people here who understood what you wrote.

                      This is just pathetic.

              2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

                Taxes should be in line with spending. As I have noted you can't government services because people are getting a bargain and will not stand for it. If people paid appropriate tax for services they would better see the need to cut.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Reverse it. Spending should be dependent on taxation rates dumdum.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Spending should be dependent upon what actually needs to be done. Determine that first. Then come up with taxes to fund it.

                    As opposed to creating a pool of money with taxes and then deciding what to do with it.

                  2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

                    You mean like the Democrat's "pay go" idea?

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)
                  3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    sarcasmic 3 hours ago
                    Flag Comment Mute User
                    Spending should be dependent upon what actually needs to be done. Determine that first. Then come up with taxes to fund it.

                    Spoken like a true democrat. Why everything is an existential crisis to justify spending.

                    Bookmarked.

                    It is on government to stay in budget and decide the priorities of said budget. Not to decide how to control the economy dumdum.

                2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

                  Taxes should be in line with CONSTITUTIONAL spending.
                  FTFY.

            2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

              You asked for an alternative. I gave an example of a system that worked for 100 years.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Yeah. Then the size of the government ballooned, so it won't work anymore. You need to stop raiding JesseAz's stupid pills.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Stuck on stupid huh sarc?

                2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

                  I mean like there is no way we should consider shrinking the size of government, right? It only worked for 100 years, so it’s no good.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    No No. All libertarian policies should be allowing dems to do whatever they want and us trying to mitigate damages even if it is taxation or deprivation of rights.

                  2. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Evidently “Do you think the size of the federal government should be reduced?” wasn’t a question of his online test he took that told him he’s the one true libertarian.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Proctored by Schumer.

                  3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    I'm all for dismantling the administrative state and shrinking the government down to something that could be funded solely by consumption taxes. I'd back that one hundred percent.

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Yet you advocate continuing taxes and against people keeping their own earnings lol.

                      If you are for consumption taxes why the fuck are you more against tariffs than income taxes?

                      Fucking disconnect.

                    2. TJJ2000   2 years ago

                      I think the National Government should be mostly 'consumption' taxed by the international market since it's only lawful job is handling international affairs. Just saying.

            3. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

              Don't you want govt to be smaller?

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                Guilfoyle

                How is Kimberly doing? Is her transition working? Is she sporting a ladydick for Don Jr?

                1. Sevo   2 years ago

                  turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
                  turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

                2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

                  Does Obama fantasize about fucking her?

                3. R Mac   2 years ago

                  Hey look, the guy that was banned for posting links to kiddie porn is sexualizing and slandering a woman that doesn’t have his political views to distract from a legitimate question.

                4. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

                  Can you please provide a detailed explanation for the 2 at the end of your name?

                  1. DesigNate   2 years ago

                    That is a great rebuttal. Chef’s kiss.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          And he defends taxing and increases despite claiming that wasn't his assertion just above.

          Wow.

          Bookmarking this thread.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            What happens when one party cuts taxes while the other party increases spending? Got any ideas? Or are you too retarded to figure it out?

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Oh, because democrats like to increase spending, tax cuts are bad. Just above you are claiming you weren't against tax cuts. Can you have any consistency?

              Do you know what happens when taxes are raised? Democrats spend even more dumdum.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Oh, because democrats like to increase spending, tax cuts are bad.

                What the fuck? I don't care about the parties. I care about the result. When you increase spending while cutting revenue, the result is deficits. Fixing the imbalance means cutting spending, increasing taxes, or a combination of both. Can't you pretend to be honest for a minute or two?

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  When you increase revenue democrats spend more you retarded fuck. Which city or blue controlled state should I point to?

          2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Bookmarking this thread.

            Get a life you pathetic loser.

            1. Bertram Guilfoyle   2 years ago

              Don't you constantly ask for citations of the things you have said in the past?

              1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                That's the other leftist. I'm not posting its name for fear of summoning it.

              2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                Him and Mike both. And even when I post his comments or a link to his comments he will lie about what the comments are like he did yesterday denying he was mocking a J6 prisoner getting 5 years for having a legal stun gun and putting his feet on Pelosi's desk.

              3. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

                Like yogi Berra he never really said all those things he said before

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Why, you'll deny you make these assertions once the buzz kicks in, so have to have it for when you do.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                The voices in your head made those assertions. I made an observation.

                Go ahead and bookmark the thread so you can link back to it later. Just like that last link you posted along with your retarded/mendacious interpretation of it. The only people you impress are R Mac, Dlam, and the Canadian cunt. As in fellow retards. Everyone else is wondering if you're really that stupid, or if you're a liar. Or both.

              2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Are you bookmarking where I said cut spending?

                What about where I said I'd like to dismantle the administrative state?

                I'm thinking no and no. Why? Because that would be honest. And one thing you can be counted on is never being honest.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  After 15 posts attacking tax cuts and telling others that taxes have to March necessary spending? Where democrats claim all spending is necessary? Lol.

                  Are you ever going to make this argument before being castigated by half of the people here?

    4. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      Huh? And here I thought “fuck you, cut spending” was the one solid take you had about anything, and here you go blowing that up with “both sides” bullshit.

      Still not getting into the sarc wars, but damn, dude. Don’t abandon common sense cuz of your feud with your “mean girls”.

    5. DesigNate   2 years ago

      It’s not a “both sides” issue, it’s a “fuck you, cut spending and income taxes are immoral” issue.

    6. CE   2 years ago

      0 percent of the increase in the national debt over the past 20 years came from tax cuts. Tax revenues increased every year. Spending increased much, much faster.

    7. CE   2 years ago

      Or you can look up the actual numbers.
      Tax receipts barely ever dip. Spending consistently increases.
      Somehow spending increases by 50% in 2020 and never drops back to normal after that.

      Year Receipts Outlays
      2003 1,782,314 2,159,899
      2004 1,880,114 2,292,841
      2005 2,153,611 2,471,957
      2006 2,406,869 2,655,050
      2007 2,567,985 2,728,686
      2008 2,523,991 2,982,544
      2009 2,104,989 3,517,677
      2010 2,162,706 3,457,079
      2011 2,303,466 3,603,065
      2012 2,449,990 3,526,563
      2013 2,775,106 3,454,881
      2014 3,021,491 3,506,284
      2015 3,249,890 3,691,850
      2016 3,267,965 3,852,615
      2017 3,316,184 3,981,634
      2018 3,329,907 4,109,047
      2019 3,463,364 4,446,960
      2020 3,421,164 6,553,621
      2021 4,047,111 6,822,470
      2022 4,897,399 6,273,324

  11. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    This morning in New York City, climate activists blockaded the entrances to the NY Federal Reserve.

    Can they both lose?

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      In a fight between those two groups there are no winners

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        If they wiped each other out, everyone else would win.

    2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Yet another reason to go back to money based in Gold, Silver, Platinum, and other Precious Metals.

  12. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

    “I was a little too eccentric … I’m on the edge of a lot of things,” said Rep. Lauren Boebert (R–Colo.)

    Trashy gal. I approve.

    Angling for Donnie’s VP?

    You got Kari Lake, MTG, maybe Herschel if Donnie wants the blaek vote.

    Oh, and Tulsi Gabbard. Donnie likes the babes.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Black people only vote for black people.

      /pluggo

    2. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

      None of those! Spermy Daniels, dammit!!!

      (Plus, Donnie is going broke, and He needs LOTS of lawyers! Now He needs to get His lawyers to work (lie in court) for FREE! And there is NO ONE better than Spermy Daniels to attract Pro Boner lawyers!)

    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "Donnie likes the babes"

      Just like his predecesso... oh wait.

      Well his successor definitely likes literal babes.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Pluggo can’t understand why a healthy man would be attracted to pretty women.

      2. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

        Mammary-Necrophilia-Farter-Fuhrer literally would VASTLY prefer for Her Perfect Pussy to be literally grabbed, and NOT have to settle for mere hair-sniffing! Cum ON, Fat-Ass Donny, go see Mammary-Necrophilia-Farter-Fuhrer, and stop obsessing about Spermy Daniels!

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
      turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  13. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The European Union will likely ban payments for sperm, milk, and blood.

    Well, there goes my Saturday night.

    1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      Is it ossible to give all three from the same person?
      🙂
      😉

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Doesn’t say anything about bartering.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    New Thomas Sowell interview just dropped...

    Why do we continue to platform that white supremacist.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      In before Buttplug pretends to quote him with a minstrel accent.

      1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Thomas Sowell makes John Maynard Keynes sound like a minstrel.
        🙂

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          And John Rawls too. All them Socialist/Statist/Collectivist sum-bitches. Thomas Sowell is an Intellectual Badass!
          🙂
          😉

          1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

            93 years old. Too old to be president? Not in my book.

  15. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Hunter Biden's multiplying gun charges threaten the right to arms and the right to trial...

    I was not joking when I said I was on Team Hunter on this. Charge him with the nepobaby graft then we'll talk.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      It's a Hail Mary pass by Merrick Garland to keep him from testifying at impeachment hearings.

  16. sarcasmic   2 years ago (edited)

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12533353/lauren-boebert-beetlejuice-quinn-gallagher-dumped.html

    Lauren Boebert says her frisky Beetlejuice theater guy is NOT getting a second date because he is a DEMOCRAT – after footage of her vaping and groping him before being kicked out left her red-faced

    Shouldn’t that be the very first question anyone asks before going on a date? Can’t have Republicans and Democrats mixing with each other. Next cats and dogs might start sharing the same bed!

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Ideas!

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Over 70% of young Democrats wouldn't date Republicans

      Meanwhile only 31% of Republicans wouldn't date a Democrat.

      Also, who the fuck follows her around with a infra-red camera and tries to get her kicked out of theaters? The FBI?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Statistics don't matter to sarc. Did you know nobody was on welfare because sarc sees help wanted signs? Which means we have infinite jobs?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          Do you practice being stupid or does it just come naturally?

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Ideas! More ideas!

          2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            How was he being stupid, sarcasmic?

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              None of what he said follows from anything I've said. If he believes what he posted, which I think he does, then his skull is filled with rocks.

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                LOL.

                Twice now you dismissed me using BLS unemployment statistics because you saw help wanted signs driving down a road. It is LITERALLY what you argued.

              2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                'None of what he said follows from anything I’ve said."

                Aside from being a flat out lie, that was your modus operandi here all-day yesterday. Self awareness is not a Sarcasmic superpower.

          3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Apparently, Sarc, you seem to do both. BTW, how much did you imbibe this morning?

          4. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Sarc, that is an example of sarcasm based on your comments. Please take the lesson to heart next time you try to claim your stupid comment was sarcasm.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Ironically, for using the handle "sarcasmic", sarcasm escapes him readily.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Sarc thinks sarcasm consists of saying the opposite of what is true in the dumbest way possible.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Over 70% of young Democrats wouldn’t date Republicans

        Because MAGA is synonymous with "old fat slob" to women.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Obviously you haven't been out much. Those rather large women at the pro-abortion rallies and alphabet soup parades aren't Republicans.

          1. Brandybuck   2 years ago

            Yup. Despite lefty rhetoric to the contrary, it's women who are driving the pro-life movement.

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Did you miss your recent cries from leftist magazines about working out being a conservative trait?

          https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/men-gym-visit-more-socioeconomic-equality-believe-class-research-brunel-university-a7752741.html

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            A new poll by Change Research surveyed 1,033 registered voters between 18 and 34 to ask about their political leanings and dating preferences. It discovered that women's biggest red flag when looking for a relationship is a date revealing they’re a MAGA Republican, with 76% of women saying it’s a turnoff. The second biggest red flag for women is people who “have no hobbies” (66%), and the third is those who say “All Lives Matter” (60%).

            Change Research

            1. JesseAz   2 years ago

              https://www.foxnews.com/media/liberal-woman-goes-viral-tiktok-saying-hard-find-masculine-man-conservative

              Woman complaining liberal men don't act like conservative men. LOL.

        3. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a TDS-addled lying pile of lefty shit.

        4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          Because MAGA is synonymous with “old fat slob” to women.

          Is that why Dove hired that morbidly obese BLM Shamu to promote their products?

        5. R Mac   2 years ago

          Nobody believes you bullshit, lying pedo.

    3. Foo_dd   2 years ago

      r's and d's mixing..... probably a mixed bag. sure, many of the kids would be mutant creations of unimaginable horror, but some might just turn out to be normal moderate people.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Politics don’t alter chromosomes.

        1. Foo_dd   2 years ago

          i suppose you have never heard the word "joke" before.

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        That’s no problem as long as there is a system for culling the rejects.

        [Disclaimer: Guess I better say that I was just kidding.]

    4. DesigNate   2 years ago

      This was unfunny the first time you did the bit, just say’n.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    ...report Anna Merlan and Tim Marchman at Vice.

    Pass.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      I'm sure Merlan's digging into this story with the same objectivity and discernment that she did with the UVa hoax.

      On the same note, it looks like the new PoundMeToo revival is being aimed primarily at people who make the establishment look like shit, versus the original version that simply went after anyone who acted like an oversexualized asshole during the 90s and 2000s, when doing so was encouraged by the same establishment to "own the cons."

      1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        On the same note, it looks like the new PoundMeToo revival is being aimed primarily at people who make the establishment look like shit, versus the original version that simply went after anyone who acted like an oversexualized asshole during the 90s and 2000s

        It was only a matter of time. I'm shocked it took them this long, but on the plus side I think for most reasonable people PoundMeToo lost whatever credibility it once had a while ago so I'm not sure weaponizing it will work quite as well as they think it will.

        1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago (edited)

          Any of this shit is going to have to be treated with the full skepticism it deserves. It’s also going to be necessary for fathers to tell their sons, “Don’t go busting a nut in a chick or even cop a feel, no matter how much she says she loves you. After the date, drop her off, go home, jerk off, and if it doesn’t work out, at least you have plausible deniability if she tries to accuse you of rape out of spite. And document everything.”

          1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

            Any of this shit is going to have to be treated with the full skepticism it deserves.

            I think most normal people will do just that, but I supposed it will probably still have an impact because The Right People will still believe any and all allegations. Take Russell Brand, for example. Apparently his agent has already dropped him and he's had all of his upcoming stand up shows cancelled, and any upcoming media appearances have also been cancelled, or if not cancelled outright, they'll now spend the entirety of his appearance grilling him about these accusations from 10 or more years ago instead of talking about what he wants to say. Which is the whole point, of course, to shut him up. So it doesn't really matter if the rest of us, the hoi polloi, believe the accusations or not. "They" still get what they wanted out of it which is to silence a critic of the establishment.

            The good news for him is, he'll still be able to put out his videos on Youtube (they might suppress them in the algorithm though) and Rumble, etc. and the people who follow him on those platforms will likely not be swayed by unproven he said/ she said crap from 10+ years ago. But in the meantime, he's still "cancelled" in the eyes of The Right People.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              So weaponizing WILL work.

              1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

                Yes, I walk back some of what I said earlier. It will work well enough for their goals (cancelling/ de-platforming establishment critics). It won't have much impact on what us peasants think, but they don't really care what we think anyway.

            2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

              I knew something was coming down the pike on him when I saw an article headline a few days ago talking about how he'd grown his audience by pandering to "the conspiracy crowd."

              And I agree that this is mostly the establishment working to silence one of their current critics and former allies. Same thing happened to James Woods.

            3. Stuck in California   2 years ago (edited)

              The good news for him is, he’ll still be able to put out his videos on Youtube

              Youtube demonetized him today.

              https://www.theguardian.com/culture/2023/sep/19/youtube-suspends-russell-brand-revenues-channel

              1. DesigNate   2 years ago

                It’s ok because they’re a private company that just empathizes with the poor downtrodden regime who are only trying to make America better.

        2. R Mac   2 years ago

          “I’m not sure weaponizing it will work quite as well as they think it will.”

          It got Brand demonetized at twitter, so it’s still working enough.

    2. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      We were just having some fun at Anna "Don't You Dare Question UVA Jackie" Merlan's expense the other day.

      #GrabItsYaddaYadda

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Sandra, you're a female. Do you have the hots for MAGA types?

        1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

          Only morons and grifters continued to support Trump after he lost to Dementia Joe. And anyone who kept supporting Trump after Nov. 2022 (when his toxic #StopTheSteal tantrum dragged down the party to a dismal underperformance in the House) is so profoundly idiotic I wonder if they can tie their own shoes.

          Have I not made this clear with my ongoing "Trump dead-enders are the stupidest people on the planet" series?

          1. DesigNate   2 years ago

            Love him or hate him, the idea it was Trump and not the establishment GOP shooting it’s own dick with their retarded signaling on abortion seems silly to me.

    3. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      I'm sure the folks at Vice are completely opposed to pedophilia. So this is definitely above board.

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      But, but... the actual plot to The Sound Of Freedom is really more like the fictional plot to True Lies! Emote! Care! Why won't you care? What's wrong with you?

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    "I was a little too eccentric … I'm on the edge of a lot of things," said Rep. Lauren Boebert (R–Colo.) in response to reports that she got handsy with her beau (and him with her) at a performance of "Beetlejuice."

    Emphasis on the edge. Handling them tiddies her partner held it together by picturing Lori Lightfoot in the title role.

    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      I'm more surprised the big story wasn't her having to dodge all the homeless tents in downtown Denver.

    2. damikesc   2 years ago

      I'm more impressed how offended Howard Stern was over her dress.

      He morphed into a school marm so completely it blows the mind.

      1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        I’m more impressed how offended Howard Stern was over her dress.

        Call him Karen Stern from now on.

        1. damikesc   2 years ago

          Just amazing how he went from "Cutting edge" to "You can see her KNEES in that dress, the filthy harlot!"

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Yeah, 20 years ago he'd be horn-dogging her instead of acting like the fucking Church Lady.

            What a bitch-ass establishment toady he turned into in his old age.

            1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

              Like a lot of people, the COVID fear pr0n completely broke his brain. He didn't even leave his house for something like 2 years. Well after the lockdowns had ended he was still voluntarily locked down. That had to have a massive impact on his mental health (which, to be fair, was probably not that great to begin with).

              But to go from the guy who used to have pr0n stars on his show riding sex toys to "Oh noez! Her skirt's too short! I can see above her ankles!" is fucking bonkers. He needs to get checked for low T, ASAP because the only thing that would make sense is his testosterone levels must be in the gutter.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Yep, covid completely broke his already neurotic mind.

              2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                One of the more hilarious recent incidents with Stern had him complaining about when he went to a Knicks game and was sitting courtside, and none of the players were coming up to him to hang out. They were all going to Spike Lee.

                The whole story had a bizarre "Don't they know how much I've done for black people?" vibe to it.

            2. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

              Stern always sucked.

  19. JesseAz   2 years ago

    LA spends 44k per tent for homeless.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/los-angeles-spends-44000-temporary-tent-homeless-village

    1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      How can they even manage to be this incompetent?

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago (edited)

        It is not incompetence, it is theft disguised as incompetence.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          Yeah, Seattle spends around 50k per homeless person. Only about 10k gets to them. The rest is funneled to Dem controlled support groups.

          1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

            i'd be shocked if it's really 10k.

  20. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Shocking nobody but shrike, Biden blocks off more energy and mineral extraction.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/biden-admin-unleashes-50-year-mining-oil-drilling-ban-across-thousands-acres-new-mexico

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Speaking of shrike... good news everybody!

      ABC News
      @ABC
      The poverty rate in the U.S. increased last year, the first increase in 13 years, according to the Census Bureau.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Yet household wealth has skyrocketed since Donnie was canned in 2020.

        https://fred.stlouisfed.org/graph/?g=FBGH

        Very odd. Americans are richer by far yet the mopes are losing out?

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Very odd. Americans Certain billionaires are richer by far yet the mopes are losing out?

        2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          "household wealth has skyrocketed"

          Buttplug summons SNLs Jimmy Carter on inflation: “Wouldn’t you like to own a $4,000 suit, and smoke a $75 cigar, drive a $600,000 car? I know I would!”

          Meanwhile in the Roundup above:

          "What's going on with the child poverty rate? "The poverty rate rose to 12.4 percent in 2022 from 7.8 percent in 2021, the largest one-year jump on record," reported The New York Times last week after the release of new Census Bureau data. "Poverty among children more than doubled, to 12.4 percent, from a record low of 5.2 percent the year before."

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago

          You know we've already mocked the fed right? Largely based on real estate not being sold while ignoring 1.5T consumer credit card debt lol.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Wasn't it just last month consumer credit card debt surpassed $1 trillion?

            Inflation is hitting your statistics harder than in reality.

            1. Sevo   2 years ago

              turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
              If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
              turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
              Fuck off and die, turd.

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

              Apologies. It is car debt at 1.5T. Credit Cards are at 1.2T

              https://www.cnbc.com/video/2023/08/11/us-car-loans-total-1point5-trillion-why-consumers-are-struggling.html#:~:text=Car%20loan%20debt%20in%20the,more%20stressful%2C%20difficult%20and%20expensive.

              But let’s make cars more expensive – Dems

              And commercial real estate at 1.5T.

              https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2023-04-08/a-1-5-trillion-wall-of-debt-is-looming-for-us-commercial-properties

              BOOMING ECONOMY.

              1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

                You lost.

                Give it up.

                1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  You speaking to a mirror, Pluggo?

        4. damikesc   2 years ago

          Yet wages have not remotely kept up with inflation.

          Quite odd, indeed.

    2. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

      How fortunate for us, that the admin is looking to ensure we stay really poor here.

  21. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    What would Yeltsin have thought about today's supermarkets?

    "Why are there so many mobility scooters?"

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      “Nobody needs 23 kinds of deodorant “.

    2. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Why is everything behind locked bars?

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      Finally, a place to buy vodka *and* sit on the curb in my underwear!

    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      How many fucking different kinds of chips does a society need?

      [Disclaimer: Just making a joke. I’m all, go free markets and consumer choice!]

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Disclaimer: Laursen is being deliberately pedantic and retarded.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Also not funny.

  22. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12533235/Trump-wrote-lists-executive-assistant-classified-documents-discovered-Mar-Lago-bombshell-report-claims.html

    Donald Trump wrote 'to-do lists' for executive assistant on the back of classified documents, report claims

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Recycling paper saves the planet.

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Nothing wrong with that. What's the scandal here Sarcasmic? Does a classified designation turn them into the Koran?

      1. NealAppeal   2 years ago

        Revelation 22
        18 For I testify unto every man that heareth the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book:

        1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

          Vatican City; Würm, Germany; Salt Lake City, Utah; Branson, Missouri, etc., etc., call your offices!
          🙂
          😉

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Not seeing the crime here sarc.

      Thank God he isnt a Biden or you’d defend every charge against him.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Donnie handed out classified documents like business cards.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Cite? We know your boy Joe did for money.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        There are laws in place for how classified documents are to be treated. You know this, which means you are lying. As usual.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Got citations and links?

        2. Zeb   2 years ago

          There are such laws. But I think there are good constitutional arguments why they can't really apply to the president. As the only elected member of the executive branch, it is important that the president can't be constrained from revealing information he thinks needs to be revealed. Otherwise you have a bunch of unelected people keeping secrets from the American people.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            The law is very general. Handling instructions are created through regulation and rule making, not through laws. Instructions change all the time.

            Writing on a cover sheet is not against those regulations.

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          Yes, I do know it. Writing on them is not one of those regulations. In fact there is a 30 day period on working papers before markings have to be added for notes or notes destroyed.

          And they are regulations, not laws. The classification authority for handling is centered on the President and described through regulations, not law.

          You didn’t know this. Because you think people who get clearances have the investigators interview HS guidance counselors.

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Better add on another 5 years to the 641, just to be safe.

    5. Minadin   2 years ago

      I would have to imagine that a president's executive assistant holds a fairly high-level security clearance out of necessity.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Why would you have to imagine that?

        1. Minadin   2 years ago

          Well, for one, it was considered kind of a big deal when the former president's aides were having difficulty getting clearance.

          https://www.newsweek.com/jared-kushner-security-clearance-white-house-access-ivanka-donald-trump-723993

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

            The article you linked to never uses the word, aide. It is about advisers.

            1. Minadin   2 years ago

              Oh, well, let's argue semantics, then, instead of the subject. The OP article used the term 'executive assistant'. It doesn't matter.

              The thing is, all of the people who are on staff at that high of a level, with direct access to the president or VP or cabinet members, are going to be required to have a security clearance, and a pretty high one, as a basic prerequisite of holding their position.

              Why do you dispute this?

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Why do claim to know this without having actually done any research other than “imagining”?

                And “semantics” is meaning, so it is often valid to argue semantics. An advisor is a much higher level of “aide” than someone who conveys to do lists around.

                1. Minadin   2 years ago

                  It's a fucking figure of speech, Mike. You might try using your own imagination. For instance:

                  Do you think that a person in an oval office job position does not possess a security clearance? Do you believe that they haven't been vetted to view or hear secure information? If not, how would that work? How would they know to excuse themselves from the room every time something sensitive was about to come up?

                  What is the supposed 'bombshell' here? Some 'underling' with a clearance grade above most government workers maybe got a bit of graffiti on the back of a document they already were OK to see? So what?

                  1. R Mac   2 years ago

                    Mike Liarson is a squawking bird named Dee and should be treated as such.

                  2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    It’s that you felt a need to “imagine” an excuse for Trump’s actions.

                  3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    I don’t know that it is a bombshell. Many of us see it as somewhat humorous.

                  4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    I’m not the one speculating how the White House works internally.

                    I admit I don’t know the details here. Why don’t you admit the same?

              2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Her name is Molly Michael. Do you have any solid, specific information on what security clearances she held? I couldn’t.

                1. Minadin   2 years ago

                  Does that information exist in a publicly searchable database? Or, are you asking for something that's not able to be attained?

                  Because I think it's obviously the latter. Go ahead and prove me wrong.

                  1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    The burden of proof is on you. I’m not the one who made an assertion, you are.

                  2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    A non-biased reaction to the story would be, “Hey, maybe Trump did something wrong or illegal here, maybe he didn’t. I don’t have enough information to know. One of the things I don’t know is what Molly Michael’s security clearance was.”

                    A reaction of reflexively needing to defend Trump’s actions would be, “Hey, I need to come up with a narrative to believe where what he did is not wrong.”

                2. R Mac   2 years ago

                  She wouldn’t sign my affidavit I gave her that indicated her security clearance.

                  What did she say when you asked her, bird?

    6. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

      He couldn’t have someone grab him a few notepads from White House office supply cabinet?

      1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

        Pussy-grabbing, He can handle! Notepad-grabbing is beyond Him, and Spermy Daniels wasn't there to show Him how to grab notepads! Maybe if she'd been there using notepads as sanitary twat-pads, He (The Emperor Trump) COULD have managed to find and grab said notepads cum sanitary twat-pads, and MUCH trouble could have been avoided! WHERE is Spermy Daniels when we NEEEEED her SOOOO badly?!?!? (Cum on over here, Spermy Daniels!!!!)

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          I wish someone would take all the sets from “The West Wing” and just do a show trying to recreate as accurately as possible the day-to-day goings on inside the Trump White House.

          It would get the most amazing ratings ever.

          [Disclaimer: And just to reinforce I’m not being partisan, it would be fascinating to watch the same for the Bill Clinton presidency.]

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            I think the goings on from the Clinton White House would pull a bigger audience.

            Cigar anyone?

  23. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    Worth saying it again, Liz is doing a noticeably better job than ENB on the daily.

    It's nice to not be receiving left wing activist propaganda on a libertarian sites daily links.

    Hopefully she keeps it up

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      It's odd not getting Salon-tier agitprop every day.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      I'll second that. Although it is a low bar after ENB.

      Wonder what Yglesias and Masnick are doing...

    3. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      2nd that

    4. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      I'm guessing ENB reads the comments and is jelous

    5. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      I must agree. Liz is doing a much better job of links and commentary than ENB.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        not if you're a huge abortion and prostitution fan she's not.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Well, that would explain why Jeffy is nowhere to be found.

    6. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      Really, for me, it’s missing that self-defeating, oblivious, retarded psycho-/sociopathy. Where, even if Liz started reporting 100% abortion, prostitution, trans rights, and 1A Of The Internet stories in straight “This is a story that happened.” fashion, it would still be missing that “Ron DeSantis is robbing girls of both genders of their agency by banning books that tell them to cut their genitals off and instruct them how to get into the sex trade.” tone of abject insanity.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago (edited)

        “girls of both genders…”

        *chef’s kiss*

        And yes, probably the most notable thing missing is the very frequent ENBism of "Desantis (or insert R that MSM is mad about) is doing fascism, again" articles.

    7. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

      I never objected to ENB's beat, but nothing should be a one-note symphony if you can avoid it. With ENB, the Reason Roundup was like a steer-roping of submissives at a BDSM rodeo.
      🙂
      😉

      Liz Wolfe is better at adding variety to the Reason Roundup and I hope she keeps it up in the future I like reporting on the economy, regulation, science, and technology as well as social/sexual issues.

      I guess you could say: Meet the new Liz, broader focused than the old Liz.

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        I agree ENB’s morning links weren’t the best, but it’s possible ENB is simply on vacation.

    8. R Mac   2 years ago

      Agreed.

    9. Commenter_XY   2 years ago

      Definitely ask Liz Wolfe if she is willing to do Roundup. Much better.

  24. nobody 2   2 years ago

    "...it's basically "a pared-down version of what Biden originally pitched as the 'Build Back Better' plan..."

    Politicians love to put people's names on their bills to sucker people into supporting them. Maybe we should borrow their tactic and insist that henceforth the Inflation Reduction Act should be known as Klaus Schwab's Bill.

  25. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    The Inflation Reduction Act, for example, was estimated to cost $400 million but will cost something more like $1 trillion.

    The estimate was only off by more than 3 orders of magnitude, what's the big deal? Good enough for government work.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      But don’t you dare put some income on the wrong line on your tax form.

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        or send $601 over venmo

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      The best part is I’ve seen several Democrats admit it was a global climate change warming bill.

  26. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

    New Thomas Sowell interview just dropped: "Rawls refers to things that 'society' should 'arrange.' Interior decorators arrange. Governments compel. It is not a subtle distinction."

    I don't think there's a clearer thinker out there right now than Thomas Sowell. The man's a legend.

  27. Sevo   2 years ago

    "UN General Assembly adopts declaration to accelerate SDGs"
    [...]
    "World leaders adopted the SDGs in 2015, promising to leave no one behind. The goals include ending extreme poverty and hunger, ensuring access to clean water and sanitation, as well as green energy, and providing quality universal education and lifelong learning opportunities..."
    https://news.un.org/en/story/2023/09/1140857

    Betting "get out of the way" never occurred to them.
    (and, amazingly the roundup was headlined as such)

    1. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

      Even better the UN want to impliment more social emotional learning (sel) because they say that the mutually exclusive goals in sdg will cause cognitive dissonance unless the kids are trained to cope

  28. Brandybuck   2 years ago

    Democrat administrations spend more than any administration before them. Then Republicans get into power and spend more than any administration before them. Then Democrats get into power and spend more than any administration before them. See the pattern?

    Even adjusted for inflation and population growth, each administration, regardless of party, spends more than any before it.

    Bothsidesism: And neither party gives a shit. Sure, the GOP loves to cut taxes, but hasn't had an actual overall spending decrease since... well... well not since Eisenhower.

    1. Zeb   2 years ago

      It's pretty bad. I give the Republicans a slight edge because they at least acknowledge the problem exists and don't believe that we can tax our way out of any problem.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Obama was the only president this century who did something about spending and deficits.

        He CAMPAIGNED on reducing the trillion dollar deficits Bush left. Then he cut it through the Budget Control Act of 2011. Then he set up Simpson-Bowles and supported it.

        I know, I know - a Democrat could not have possibly done this. FATASS DONNIE DREAMY with his $3 trillion deficit.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

        2. Brandybuck   2 years ago

          Only Nixon could go to China.

        3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

          You mean he took credit for the repayments from TARP and then had his huge spending requests denied by the GOP House under Ryan. Finally getting his wish and adding hundreds of billion in spending expanding medicaid and ACA.

          Remove TARP from analysis and what happens shrike?

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            Listen, dumbass, TARP was long gone in 2015 when the deficit had fallen to $480 billion.

            2009 $1,450.980 $3,000.661 -$1,549.681
            2010 $1,531.019 $2,902.397 -$1,371.378
            2011 $1,737.678 $3,104.459 -$1,366.781
            2012 $1,880.489 $3,018.975 -$1,138.486
            2013 $2,101.832 $2,281.070 -$719.238
            2014 $2,285.926 $2,800.231 -$514.305
            2015 $2,479.518 $2,948.773 -$469.255

            From below: (poster here)

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              It's the total debt, stupid.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        The primary issue is baseline budgeting which automatically increases spending by 3% yearly. The agreement last year to lock it to 1% increase is the first time they addressed the issue.

    2. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      It worth remembering that nobody got to office without promising something. What candidate today is saying well things are going well so I don't plan to make a bunch of changes and put in new programs? It just doesn't happen.

  29. Sevo   2 years ago

    "National debt exceeds $33 trillion, but no one seems to care."
    turd finds it wonderful.

  30. Super Scary   2 years ago

    "As Reason's Eric Boehm has argued, it's basically "a pared-down version of what Biden originally pitched as the 'Build Back Better' plan"

    Well sure, but "Build Back Just As Good" wasn't as catchy as "Inflation Reduction Act".

  31. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    THE END WILL COME FOR THE CULT OF MAGA
    The next generation isn’t buying it.
    .
    Steven Hassan, another former cult member (also a Moonie), published his book The Cult of Trump in 2019, long before the attack on the Capitol, even before Trump persuaded thousands of his followers to gather indoors unmasked during the worst airborne pandemic in a century. Hassan told me that the MAGA movement checks all the boxes of his “BITE” model of cult mind control—behavior, information, thought, and emotional control. Like all cult leaders, he argues, Trump restricts the information his followers are allowed to accept; demands purity of belief (beliefs that can change from moment to moment, as per his whims and needs); and appeals to his followers through the conjuring of primal emotions—not just fear but also joy.
    .
    His rallies, as so many have reported, are ecstatic events; people cheer and laugh as their various enemies are condemned and insulted. Hassan will be the first to tell you that being part of a cult means you’re empowered, special, one of the elect, close to the person who has all the answers/will lead us to paradise/will “make America great again.” That, in fact, may be the greatest disincentive to turn away from Trump: Nothing is more fun than knowing that you and your friends are the ones who are right about everything.

    https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2023/08/trumpism-maga-cult-republican-voters-indoctrination/675173/

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      If Trump was even a fraction of the devil you guys make him out to be, we might actually be in trouble. Thankfully, the world doesn't reflect your delusions.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago (edited)

        Yeah – because Trump is a con man.

        This confession will be surprising to you Peanuts:

        A new small government party can only emerge from the smoldering crater of a dead Republican Party. Yes, the massive government spending/overreach of Bush and Trump and only a future GOP can be the antidote to Big Gov Trumpism. Not Dems. Dems are spineless and only want a different flavor of Trumpism.

        But it has to die first. Trump IS Big Government.

        1. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.

        2. Nobartium   2 years ago

          OMEGALUL, the GOP was set to die prior to Trump.

          Get a goddamn clue, child-porn spreader.

          1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

            It's not dead yet. Donnie is just preserving the rotting corpse of the GOP for his Big Gov entitlement-hogging blue-hair base.

            1. Nobartium   2 years ago

              OMEGALUL, blue-hair's don't vote GOP you retard.

            2. R Mac   2 years ago

              Note he’s no longer arguing against being a child porn spreader.

        3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

          A new small government party can only emerge from the smoldering crater of a dead Republican Party.

          The GOP hasn't been a "small government party" ever since Hoover was elected.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Also, there's not going to be a "small government party" emerging from anything. It's patently obvious now that not working the levers of government to your advantage is political and cultural suicide, even while your opponents have been calling you "fascists" for over 50 years--which is the opposite of small government.

            It's just that one side's been allowed to exploit that for several decades now because they were the "big government party." Now, the question is who actually controls the government, from the local level on up, not whether there's a proper size to it.

            1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

              Can't argue with that.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      the hysterical media-driven overreaction to the frumpy clownish archie-bunker in a suit is something historians will marvel at in the future.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      "Steven Hassan, another former cult member (also a Moonie), published his book The Cult of Trump in 2019,..."

      turd is a sucker for any sort of lies regarding Trump. turd is abysmally stupid along with being a pathological liar and a kiddie-diddler.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        The primary duty of the cult member is to attack anyone critical of their leader.

        (Sevo Exhibit #1)

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
          turds lie here regards the duty of a cult member; the cult of the TDS-addled is to attack Trump through any means at all.

        2. R Mac   2 years ago

          So you in every article critical of Biden.

    4. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Hassan told me that the MAGA movement checks all the boxes of his “BITE” model of cult mind control—behavior, information, thought, and emotional control.

      Funny, academia and the mainstream media seem to operate in the same manner.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        As does the cult of the TDS-addled shits.

  32. Rev Arthur L kuckland   2 years ago

    So are we done with the Ukraine is a democracy lie?

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      You can’t have freedom without a dictator.

  33. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Operation Underground Railroad founder Tim Ballard allegedly "invited women to act as his 'wife' on undercover overseas missions ostensibly aimed at rescuing victims of sex trafficking," report Anna Merlan and Tim Marchman at Vice. "He would then allegedly coerce those women into sharing a bed or showering together, claiming that it was necessary to fool traffickers."

    The odds of this being true are not good.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Sounds like the sub plot in “True Lies”.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      The odds of this being true are not good.

      I'd say it's about as high as the odds of the UVA rape hoax being true.

    3. mad.casual   2 years ago

      IMO, the issue isn't the odds of it being true or not as much as a, once again, selective resurgence of conveniently left-wing feminist/anti-patriarchy, Title IX, #MeToo collective couch-fainting.

      A CEO employed a thin ruse to coerce adult women to shower with him and they "fell" for it? GTFO!

  34. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Boebert reportedly also got into trouble for vaping in the theater, which is the most relatable she's ever been.

    Perhaps you've never seen the pics of her in tight genes toting an AR? It's quite relatable.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      She is definitely fuckable. She reminds me of the crazy bitch from Arizona that killed her boyfriend - Jodi Arias.

      AOC is still the hottest though. Easy #1.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        she's too old for you and the wrong sex to boot.

    2. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

      It’s quite relatable.

      You misspelled boner inducing*.

      *Actually to tell the whole truth, I never found her all that attractive. Kind of a "butterface," IMO. But hey, different strokes...

  35. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Plus: Separating child poverty facts from fiction, EU will ban payments for sperm and blood, and more...

    Sex work is work.

  36. Sevo   2 years ago

    With the new ads sliding in from the right, there's almost a third of a page visible!

  37. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

    A.M. Golden exposes the true purpose of the whole Climate Change®™ thing.

    https://ethicsalarms.com/2023/09/19/dear-hysterical-climate-change-protesters-demanding-impossible-things-is-unethical-and-stupid/

    Of course, the real endgame is to end the freedom to travel easily. If vehicles and the power to run them outprice the market, there will be fewer vehicles and citizens will be limited in their ability to move freely throughout, not only the country, but also their own cities.

    A few years ago, Indianapolis installed a Red Line bus system that made stops throughout the downtown area. During the period of promotion in which riding was free, we went downtown in order to attend an event. On the way out of the event, Mr. Golden got the idea that we could hop on the free bus to take us closer to our car so we wouldn’t have to walk so far.

    We watched multiple buses drive by without stopping; buses stopped but couldn’t take on passengers because they were too full. After a 45 minute wait, by which time we could’ve walked the entire distance to our car and been home, a bus finally showed up and allowed us to board.

    Imagine having a bag of perishable groceries in your arms. A child who needs a bathroom (in a city in which businesses are increasingly restricting public restrooms to paying customers only). A deadline that must be met.

    If the entire city (except the wealthy, privileged electric car owners) is limited to public transportation for everything, that makes for a lot of wasted time.

    1. Jerry B.   2 years ago

      But you can’t tell the bus drivers what to do. They’re part of the union.

    2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

      Of course, the real endgame is to end the freedom to travel easily.

      Yeah, they made that quite clear with the whole "15 minute city" agenda of theirs.

      If the UAW was smart, they'd drop the stupid demand to get 40 hours of pay for 32 hours of work, focus exclusively on the hourly pay raises, and hammer the point relentlessly in their press releases that this is about workers wanting to make cars with internal combustion engines that actually sell, versus Climate Change/Net Zero-obsessed CEOs trying to strongarm customers into buying crappy EVs to keep the company's ESG score up. They'd actually get a lot of right-wing support in their strike AND force the Democrats to publicly make a decision as to where their real loyalty lies.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      I like this reply as well:

      We have used fossil fuels to advance society for over 6000 years. They permeate everything. We have no replacements for wholesale fossil fuels usage. All manufacturing requires petroleum. There are things that do not require petroleum lubricants, but for many applications, the properties just cannot compare to petroleum lubricants. Plastics, varnishes, manufacturing of every sort, and more all use fossil fuels. Even renewable energy requires fossil fuels to work, at least in the manufacturing of parts, transportation and set up, and often, lubrication. Fossil fuels cannot be stopped without grave effects on every single aspect of our lives. Frankly, I just wish people who want all fossil fuels usage to be stopped give up their transportation (outside of walking), phones, and computers. That’ll get them understanding even the barest minimum of what they must give up. After they do that for a couple years, then they should work to only eat what they can eke out of unfertilized soil. I bet that, if they survive, they’ll understand more closely what they are actually asking of society.

  38. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Operation Underground Railroad founder Tim Ballard allegedly "invited women to act as his 'wife' on undercover overseas missions ostensibly aimed at rescuing victims of sex trafficking," reports Anna Merlan and Tim Marchman at Vice. "He would then allegedly coerce those women into sharing a bed or showering together, claiming that it was necessary to fool traffickers."

    Wait, Anna Merlan... Anna Merlan, where have I heard "Anna Merlan" before...

    Oh yeah, THIS Anna Merlan

    Ever since journalist Sabrina Rubin Erdely published her searing Rolling Stone story about “Jackie,” a woman who was allegedly the victim of a gang rape at a frat party at the University of Virginia, there’s been an ongoing and much-needed public conversation about the way rape and sexual assault claims are dealt with on college campuses. But Robby Soave at the libertarian magazine Reason thinks we’re talking about the wrong questions entirely. Shouldn’t we be asking, he wonders, if Jackie just, like, made the whole story up?

    Soave writes that Erdely’s story is “not credible,” according to “journalists who contemplate such matters.” Which journalists, exactly? One, to be precise, a guy by the name of Richard Bradley, who writes on his blog that he doesn’t believe the story: “I don’t believe that it happened—certainly not in the way that it is recounted.”

    Why is it not surprising she writes for Vice.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "Is the UVA Rape Story a Gigantic Hoax?' Asks Idiot"
      - dec 2014

      Oh ya. We weren't quite at the full steam, post Trump 2016 election, post pussy grabbing, post pussy-hat March, MeToo hysteria that we would eventually get to, but the train was certainly headed toward that station.

      We were entering into "believe all women, not matter how fucking stupid and fake it sounds" hysterics.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      LMAO, I just noticed the updates. What a fantastic timeline:

      "Updates to this story:

      Rolling Stone Partially Retracts UVA Story Over ‘Discrepancies’

      The UVA Mess is Now a Full-Fledged Shitstorm

      Alleged UVA Rape Vic’s Friends: Rolling Stone Didn’t Even Talk To Us

      Emails: How UVA Stonewalled Rolling Stone on Rape Story

      Rush After ‘A Rape on Campus:’ A UVA Alumna Goes Back to Rugby Road

      Charlottesville Police: “No Evidence” To Support UVA Rape Allegations

      Review Shows Everything That Went Wrong in UVA’s Rolling Stone Story"

      Like knowing a person is going to fall down the stairs, and then having 20 snapshots of them tumbling all the way to the bottom.

      Some fun comments from that article too (this is good entertainment)

      "I don't know whether the Rolling Stone article is true or not, but I have learned that you, Anna Merlan, are an insufferable douchebag."

      and

      "You would be glad to see that the Washington Post yesterday published an update in which it confirmed that Ms. Erdely did not talk to the accusers. As you have a Masters in Journalism from Columbia University, I am sure you will remember the introductory classes in which you were told to at least try to speak to both the alleged victim and the accused. I can't wait 'till you publish an article in which, after reminding us of your investigative credentials, you'll tell us why journalists over the years have found it important to maintain that one rule of talking to both sides of a story!"

      1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Oh yeah, the comments are a laugh riot. FYI, Robby weighed in on the comments himself. I found that funny:

        1. Robby weighs in on comment sections of c-list websites.
        b: Robby reads Jezebel.

    3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Alright, my last one here. But her and Robby got into it in her comments there. After calling him an idiot in the headline, she then goes on to condescendingly attempt to shit all over his very tame response, lording her credentials and Columbia jouno degree.

      Holy shit. This is a perfect microcosm of the insanity of the left. Credentialed, indoctrinated, petty tyrant gate-keepers with degrees in Orwellian propaganda.

    4. markm23   2 years ago

      "Jackie's" story was never believable. She claimed she had been gang-raped on broken glass - but didn't seek medical care.

  39. MWAocdoc   2 years ago

    http://www.polidiotic.com/by-the-numbers/us-federal-deficit-by-year/

    Year Revenue Spending Deficit
    2002 $1,337.815 $1,655.232 -$317.417
    2003 $1,258.472 $1,796.890 -$538.418
    2004 $1,345.369 $1,913.330 -$567.961
    2005 $1,576.135 $2,069.746 -$493.611
    2006 $1,798.487 $2,232.981 -$434.494
    2007 $1,932.896 $2,275.049 -$342.153
    2008 $1,865.945 $2,507.793 -$641.850
    2009 $1,450.980 $3,000.661 -$1,549.681
    2010 $1,531.019 $2,902.397 -$1,371.378
    2011 $1,737.678 $3,104.459 -$1,366.781
    2012 $1,880.489 $3,018.975 -$1,138.486
    2013 $2,101.832 $2,281.070 -$719.238
    2014 $2,285.926 $2,800.231 -$514.305
    2015 $2,479.518 $2,948.773 -$469.255
    2016 $2,457.785 $3,077.942 -$620.157
    2017 $2,465.566 $3,180.429 -$714.863
    2018 $2,475.160 $3,260.473 -$785.313
    2019 $2,549.061 $3,540.339 -$991.278
    2020 $2,455.736 $5,598.021 -$3,142.285
    2021 $3,094.789 $5,818.602 -$2,723.813

    So no, the increase in debt over the last 20 years was NOT "overwhelmingly driven by the trillions spent on Republican tax cuts skewed to the wealthy and big corporations!"

    1. Michael Ejercito   2 years ago

      Great point.

  40. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    "I was a little too eccentric … I'm on the edge of a lot of things," said Rep. Lauren Boebert (R–Colo.) in response to reports that she got handsy with her beau (and him with her) at a performance of "Beetlejuice." Boebert reportedly also got into trouble for vaping in the theater, which is the most relatable she's ever been.

    About this.

    Mom Wins $100K Payout From School Over 'Socially Transitioned' Daughter

    California school district has reportedly settled a lawsuit brought by a mother who said her daughter was "socially transitioned" without her permission for $100,000.

    Jessica Konen sued the Spreckels Union School District, claiming teachers at Buena Vista Middle School had secretly encouraged her daughter Alicia, then 11, to change her gender identity.

    The school "fostered her identification as a boy, gave her articles on how to conceal her new gender identity from her family, and put her on a 'Gender Support Plan' that instructed school staff to refer to her by a male name and male pronouns," according to the Center for American Liberty, the legal group that represented Konen.

    1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "Grooming isnt happening"

      - lefties here

      1. A Cynical Asshole   2 years ago

        And even if it is, a story about a Congresswoman vaping in a theater and giving her BF a handy while getting her tits fondled is far more important.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Can you link to even be example of any commenter here saying it is more important?

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            Dumbass

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              So, you’ve got nothin’.

              Can’t believe I kicked the football, again, unmuting you to see if you had an example.

              Can’t believe you are not embarrassed by your own uncivil behavior and lack of substance.

              1. R Mac   2 years ago

                Caw caw!

      2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Can you link to even one example of any commenter here stating that grooming doesn’t ever happen?

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          Caw caw!

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      How are those two stories related in your mind?

  41. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Six of Ukraine’s top defense ministers were fired by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday…

    When the offensive is going so well? Why would you switch horses midstream like that, especially while you're overwhelmingly winning the horserace?

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      They pissed off the Whitehouse somehow.

  42. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    Six of Ukraine’s top defense ministers were fired by President Volodymyr Zelenskyy yesterday…

    When the offensive is going so well? Why would you switch horses midstream like that, especially while you're overwhelmingly winning the horserace?

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      Ha, found a bug in Reason's code... YOU CAN post duplicate comments.

  43. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    How insurers prevent lifesaving treatment for eating disorders

    We should be affirming those.

  44. DesigNate   2 years ago

    “"The increase in debt over the last 20 years was overwhelmingly driven by the trillions spent on Republican tax cuts skewed to the wealthy and big corporations,””

    This is pure, unmitigated bullshit as anyone with a functioning internet connection and a non-zero iq can prove. Fuck that Regime mouthpiece.

    1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      I suspect that anyone with an internet connection could just as easily prove the administration's point. There is a broad problem of which half is undertaxing for services and overspending on services. Solving the problem will take both an IQ and a willing to make tough political decisions. We have plenty of smart people, but few with political courage.

      1. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        Hey mod, did you catch the article last week about Philly and their sugar tax? They spent millions on “hip hop dance instructors”.

        Fuck you, cut spending.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          It’s a parody.

      2. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Except they can’t, because the only times revenue hasn’t increased were years where the economy was in a downturn/recession. The problem, as always since at least FDR, is 100% spending.

        Article: https://www.thebalancemoney.com/current-u-s-federal-government-tax-revenue-3305762

        Primary Source: https://www.cbo.gov/data/budget-economic-data#2

        Thanks for playing, champ.

  45. MachineGunBodine   2 years ago

    What happened to Nardz? I miss his links.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      How can twitter exist without his constant links?

      1. MachineGunBodine   2 years ago

        That's X to you, bud.

  46. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>"Hunter Biden's multiplying gun charges threaten the right to arms and the right to trial," writes Reason's Jacob Sullum.

    threatens the investigation into Brandon, Inc. too. when's that piece drop?

  47. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>What's going on with the child poverty rate?

    people aren't getting the message so the beatings will continue until morale improves ...

  48. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>What would Yeltsin have thought about today's supermarkets?

    fuck yeah! 23 types of deodorant.

  49. Dillinger   2 years ago

    hey anyone know wha'happa to our F-35?

    1. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      It does speak well of the plane's stealth abilities.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Actually funny. Good for you.

    2. Minadin   2 years ago

      They apparently found some debris about an hour north of where they were initially looking.

      https://apnews.com/article/missing-marine-f35-jet-south-carolina-mishap-b60ed0eb50791778b982be0c40a796a1

      They're asking residents to avoid the area, but, being lost military tech, they didn't really give a specific area to avoid.

      BTW, at $80m/ea, an F-35 Lighting II costs each and every taxpayer about $0.53 a pop. Which, doesn't sound like a lot, until you consider that the Pentagon owns almost 450 of these aircraft, with another 2500 or so on order.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        as long as it didn't land in the Iranian desert I suppose all is well.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          The rumor spreading all over X, that fountain of accurate information, was that it landed in Cuba.

          1. Dillinger   2 years ago

            I may have spoken too soon lol

        2. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

          Or crash about 3 hours further North where the remnants of the nuclear bomb that fell out of a B-52 are still embedded in the ground.

  50. Dillinger   2 years ago

    also hey idiot if you're fortunate enough to be dating a Congresswoman maybe take care to take care she doesn't do something stupid in public?

  51. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    "trillions spent on Republican tax cuts"
    Allowing anyone to keep/own their labor/earnings = trillions spent in debt????
    The level of greed and entitlement is amazing....
    HOW dare the 'slaves' think they are owners of their labors!!!!

    Still the party of slavery.

  52. Ronsch   2 years ago

    Government spending is essential for our well-being. Our country is being fed nicely because of agricultural subsidies. Our energy is being subsidized, especially oil companies. Our people are guaranteed a decent live by assistance for food and health care.

    A determination of the level of debt is how large it is with respect to the country's value measured as total wealth, total value of property, and the productivity of its people, all of which far exceeds our debt. So on that basis we're really well off.

    1. TJJ2000   2 years ago

      BS-Gov-Propaganda.....

      The truth...
      Government 'gun' STEALING is essential for our well-being?? (BS). Our country is being fed nicely because of agricultural free-markets. Our energy is DYING (Power failures) because of subsidized. Our people are guaranteed a decent life by "armed-theft" of those icky productive food and health care providers.

      "subsidized, especially oil companies" - Complete BS #1
      "all of which far exceeds our debt" - Complete BS #2

      Your "our people" criminals isn't sustainable because 'gun' THEFT doesn't make sh*t dumb*ss.

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