SCOTUS' Ruling in Gay Wedding Website Case Was a Defeat for Compelled Speech
"The opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties," Justice Neil Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion.

The government may not compel someone to "create speech she does not believe," the Supreme Court ruled in June. In a 6–3 opinion authored by Justice Neil Gorsuch, the Court sided with a graphic designer, Lorie Smith, who wanted to expand into the wedding website business without being forced by Colorado law to create products celebrating same-sex marriages.
Back in 2021, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 10th Circuit found that the planned websites would each constitute "an original, customized creation," designed by Smith with a goal of celebrating the couple's "unique love story." As such, it said, they "qualify as 'pure speech' protected by the First Amendment." The appeals court admitted that Smith was willing to provide her services to anyone as long as the substance of the project did not contradict her values. It also recognized that "Colorado's 'very purpose' in seeking to apply its law to Ms. Smith" was to stamp out dissenting ideas about marriage.
Despite all of that, the 10th Circuit held that the state government was within its authority to compel her to create such websites. Lamenting "an unfortunate tendency by some to defend First Amendment values only when they find the speaker's message sympathetic," Gorsuch et al. concluded otherwise.
The ruling in 303 Creative LLC v. Elenis is neither as narrow nor as broad as it (theoretically) could have been. The Court did not do away with public accommodations laws or allow businesses to discriminate against customers on the basis of characteristics such as skin color or national origin. But it did note that "public accommodations statutes can sweep too broadly when deployed to compel speech."
The high court also did not establish a right for any and every business owner to decline to provide services for same-sex weddings—only those whose services involve expressive activity. Whether a particular service (say, cake baking) is expressive will have to be litigated case by case.
At the same time, the majority decided Smith's case as a matter of free expression rather than religious liberty. It did not say the faith-based nature of Smith's beliefs about marriage entitled her to an exemption. Secular people with moral or factual objections to expressing a particular message presumably would receive the same protections as Christians or Muslims with religious objections—as they should.
"The opportunity to think for ourselves and to express those thoughts freely is among our most cherished liberties," Gorsuch wrote in the majority opinion. "Abiding the Constitution's commitment to the freedom of speech means all of us will encounter ideas we consider….'misguided, or even hurtful'….But tolerance, not coercion, is our Nation's answer."
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6-3. We're two votes away from them shredding the Constitution a lot more.
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Oh, huh. Turns out the 1A actually does protect web service providers from being compelled to support trolls' speech.
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I don't think that ruling says what you think it says.
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Nope. Getting to choose what YOU say is 1A.
Getting to say what OTHERS say is "censorship."
Thank you for your interest, Herr Goering.
To be clear, when you say "Nope." are you saying that the 1A doesn't defend web service providers from being compelled to host other's speech or that there aren't trolls who would short-sell the 'Congress shall make no law regulating free speech' 1A in favor of the 'Protection for blocking and screening' law passed by Congress?
I understand you think I'm a Goering-esque propaganda genius, so I want to allow you to articulate your position clearly.
"Whether a particular service (say, cake baking) is expressive will have to be litigated case by case."
Funny how these rulings always leave enough wiggle room to keep lawyers employed for two more generations.
Gay is so last year. Trans is what’s trending now.
Prepare to see the gay community thrown under the bus. a space they'll share with female athletes. These are two groups that don't matter at all to the "progressive" left.
so you are saying that the government conscience decides whether my conscience binds me ????
Anyone can see that there could be a moral imperative to not support sexual perversion. Anyone. Alito and Thomas are right...and Lincoln first said it : Perverts and slaveholders do not want you to admit the legality but they do want you to APPROVE what they do.
If you do not approve then they will come after your 'conscience'
>>It did not say the faith-based nature of Smith's beliefs about marriage entitled her to an exemption.
seems still not entirely free to express then.
I still don't understand why you would want to use the products and services of someone who doesn't agree with your lifestyle choices.
"They" don't want to use the services; "they" want to destroy the people who don't fall in line.
I have to wonder what the Colorado Government’s opinion would be if I opened a Bakery and had a catalog of wedding cakes that the customer could pick from and another catalog where they could pick their accessories from. When I deliver the cake, the accessories are in a separate container and it’s up to them to add them. The accessories would be things like the couple on top of the cake and other things to personalize the cake. That way I could hold true to my beliefs and still serve the customers.
Yes, but if the accessories are 2 groom figures, you probably would be violating your beliefs.
You might pass muster with the State (as long as the State has attitudes that are Pro-Equality or at least Pro-Libertarian,) but if the accessory trimmings include same-sex couples or Poly Grokkings, the Westboro Baptists and others like them will still see you in Hell just for thinking about it. And if Christian Dominionists/Reconstructionists or Islamists take the State, then you’re really in trouble.
You might want to make your window display cake with Astro-turf green icing, with big candle letters telling everybody: “GET OFF MY LAWN!”
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Don’t worry about me. As long as they still haven’t invented a steel-plated or vat-grown pancreas, I’ll never bother you. As I have Type 2 Diabetes, me and my Pan/Poly Partnerings will stick with a big roast with kebab veggies and edible undies for dessert.
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And of course, even if I didn't have Type 2 Diabetes, I would still never bother you or any businessperson, even if we'd never agree. The world of catering and wedding services is a very big place with much to choose from and enjoy.
Let the Christians, Jews and Muslims practice their 1st Amendment rights and make their judgment, and then the LGBT movement can just reject their words and leave. They can choose not to do business with them anymore, but they are not in a position to have the government force them to go against their beliefs.
Both groups have every right to state what they want to state as I do whenever I call you out for your apparent rejection of that principle. You do not believe in religious freedom.
Where did you get that I didn't favor religious freedom? Didn't I just say I wouldn't bother any businessperson over my preferences?
Obviously, ReadingComprehensionfulness is not you. Perhaps Dummyfulness is more your speed.
"“they” want to destroy the people who don’t fall in line"
^^^ BINGO ^^^
If "they" ever got the law to successfully prohibit anyone from denying them service, they'd immediately begin calling for boycotts of anyone who fought the other side of the issue up to that point.
I don't understand why you would need a website for your wedding. Maybe if people spent less effort on weddings and more on marriages it would work out better.
How about we shouldn't have to research the various bigotries of proprietors of business in our community before we go shopping?
Depending on your race or sexual orientation, there are many places where you could assume that any random shop owner will not agree with your "lifestyle." That's why federal law exists to forbid such shop owners from acting out their own lifestyle on their customers.
Not saying something is not the same as saying something so the First Amendment doesn't apply.
/Justice Ketanji Brown Jackson.
There's a whole Helluva lot I wish she would not say.
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"A black baby has a 100% greater chance of living if taken care of by a black doctor"
- KBJ
Did she really say that? Geez.
Yes. She really did. During actual, now archived, arguments in favor of keeping affirmative action.
She is such an activist ideologue, she allowed herself to:
- Grossly misinterpret data, to the point that the conclusion was so hilariously far from observable reality that anyone with the slightest sense of honesty and rationalism (and honestly, fear of being shamed for being so blatantly retarded) would question it.
- Put forward said gross misinterpretation (probably a talking point that she read from a far left wing news source) into actual SCOTUS arguments
Similar to Sotamayor's embarrassing previous arguments. This is how you know its a cult. They have no shame, no fear of looking like they are just religious zealots, because the other zealots will applaud their activism. Even at the highest court, in arguments that are on the record forever for anyone to see. They have no shame about saying things that are so ridiculously detached from reality and objective reasoning, because they know they are working for the clergy who runs the state.
She is such an activist ideologue, she allowed herself to:
You left off the notorious, oxymoron -
"A black baby has a 100% greater chance of living if taken care of by a black doctor” - Not A Biologist
Not just working for the clergy, wholly captured by the clergy because their own race and sex would reject them for their own stupidity and misrepresentation otherwise.
I think it's from a study, they are quoting from Proceedings of the National Academy of Sciences .
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/aug/17/black-babies-survival-black-doctors-study
Idk anything about black babies, but I do know doctors are terrible at actually listening to female patients. Go with your wives sometime and watch how we are treated.
But isn't my tax dollars, paying for PBS propaganda, compelled speech too?
Which imaginary crime will the right wing jump on next?
No one compelled anyone to do anything, yet right wing justices come to the rescue
trust me, wingers will regret this some day
This is the one where the guy supposedly ordering the gay wedding website didn't order any website and isn't gay, yes? This Supreme Court is showering itself in glory. You'd think every now and then they could at least find a legitimate grievance to rule on.
"Whether a particular service (say, cake baking) is expressive will have to be litigated case by case."
And won't that be a fruitful use of our time and resources. If baking a cake or making a website is "speech," why isn't renting a hotel room or doing an oil change? This is the entire knot the SC has tied this jurisprudence up in. Antidiscrimination law regulates commercial activity, not speech or artistic expression. The (nonexistent) commercial activity here was whether the (nonexistent) customer got a website at all. His (false) identity being objectionable to the proprietor was the sum content of her "speech." She objected to selling to "him" on the basis of his protected status, not any idea being expressed.
But as we've established, these conservative justices are as scraped from the bottom of the barrel as their cases are.