It Isn't 'Divisive Rhetoric' That Kills People
Plus: kids and screen time, banks and the FBI, and more...

A gunman carrying a rifle emblazoned with a swastika killed three people at a Dollar General store in Jacksonville, Florida, on Saturday before taking his own life.
The shooter, 21-year-old Ryan Christopher Palmete, was white. All of his victims—52-year-old Angela Michelle Carr, 19-year-old Anolt Joseph "AJ" Laguerre Jr., and 29-year-old Jerrald Gallion—were black. Jacksonville Sheriff T.K. Waters has said that the murder spree was racially motivated and Palmete specifically targeted black people. The sheriff also noted that the guns Palmete was carrying were legally purchased.
As is so often the case with crimes like these, people are casting about for someone other than one racist psychopath—or "deranged scumbag," as Florida Gov. Ron DeSantis put it—to blame. Some have settled on "divisive rhetoric" as the culprit.
"When we have this kind of divisive rhetoric, this is exactly what happens," journalism professor and Jacksonville councilmember Rahman Johnson told MSNBC's Symone Sanders-Townsend. He mentioned Florida's attacks on diversity, equity, and inclusion trainings, African-American studies programs in schools, and transgender people.
"The division has to stop, the hate has to stop, the rhetoric has to stop," Jacksonville Mayor Donna Deegan said.
An op-ed in the Florida Times-Union blamed the city's reaction to antisemitic banners and light displays, saying the response wasn't "forceful enough." Those "public demonstrations look like terrible harbingers of what was to come," wrote columnist Nate Monroe.
Florida state Rep. Angie Nixon blamed attacks on "wokeness," which she called "a dog whistle. That wokeness that they want to die is Black people, and it was evident yesterday by what happened," Nixon said.
Needless to say, plenty of people hear the same rhetoric Palmete may have heard about diversity trainings, wokeness, and so on but don't go on to commit atrocities. And openly bigoted speech, as represented by those antisemitic banners, is much less common now than at most points in U.S. history past.
We do not know what route Palmete took to the politics of the swastika, nor what combustible collection of mental health issues those politics may have ignited. But laying the blame on the political rhetoric or actions of state or city leaders both overplays the role of policy makers and absolves Palmete of too much responsibility. "Divisive rhetoric" didn't kill three people on Saturday. Palmete did.
FREE MINDS
More panic about kids and screen time. A widely covered study published last week purportedly showed more dangers from letting very young children be exposed to screens—TVs, phones, etc.—in any capacity. "Age 1 is too young for any amount of screen time," Fast Company reported of the findings. "'iPad kids,' or babies and young children who have access to more screen time have a higher likelihood of developmental delays," reported Fox News.
Once again, the actual findings behind the headlines are rather mundane.
The study, published in JAMA Pediatrics, found that one-year-olds exposed to more screen time had "a higher risk of developmental delay at age 2 years in the communication, fine motor, problem-solving, and personal and social skills domains." By age four, delays in fine motor, personal, and social skills had disappeared but children with more screen time were still at higher risk for communication and problem-solving deficits. "In particular, more than 4 hours of screen time per day was associated with developmental delays in communication and problem-solving across ages 2 and 4 years," the researchers say.
It doesn't take special training to see some problems with using this study to draw major conclusions about kids and screen time in general, or using it to demonize any and all screen exposure for very young children. For one thing, the effects may not be so much about the detrimental effects of TV or the internet but the fact that more time spent doing that means less time for other developmentally enriching activities. A young kid who spent four hours per day on any one activity to the exclusion of others may experience delays in certain cognitive or physical domains.
The bigger problem is that families who let very young children spend a lot of time in front of screens tend to differ in a lot of other ways from those who do not. And indeed, "mothers of children with high levels of screen time were characterized as being younger…and having a lower household income, lower maternal education level, and having postpartum depression" than mothers of children with less screen time. There were also differences in number of siblings and presence of a grandparent.
The researchers attempted to control for some of these differences, but "we should continue to worry that there are significant other unobserved differences," economist Emily Oster points out. She concludes:
Correlation is not causation, and it's hard to convince yourself that the choice of an hour a day versus four hours a day of television for a 1-year-old is a random choice. To be clear: four hours of screens a day for a 1-year-old will leave relatively little time for other things, so it is worth being intentional about how you use screen time. But this study shouldn't change how you think about that.
It's also worth noting that the researchers didn't differentiate between types of screen time. It's possible some types have a negative effect and some have a positive effect. A meta-analysis published last year, for instance, looked at 478 studies on small children and exposure to television and found watching TV linked to both positive and negative effects, depending on the type of programming that was viewed and the circumstances of that viewing.
FREE MARKETS
Did banks hand private financial data to the FBI without legal process? The House Judiciary Committee is currently investigating that question. But "there's no doubt about the threat to civil liberties posed by the government's leverage over the financial industry; that's long established," writes J.D. Tuccille. And while the current investigation is focused on whether banks were too quick to share data related to the January 6 riots, the larger problem needs to be fixed no matter what lawmakers discover in this instance.
"Financial institutions have long operated as surveillance arms of the state, tracking transactions and movements, making assumptions about what they might mean, then turning that information over to government officials under regulatory pressure," notes Tuccille. The government exerts this pressure through customer due diligence rules, the Bank Secrecy Act, mandated suspicious activity reports, and the USA PATRIOT Act. The results have included the Obama-era Operation Chokepoint and the exclusion of sex workers from risk-averse banks and payment processors.
"Just as politicians have leaned on the tech sector to muzzle speech, they have long pressured banks to spy on customers and deny services to people whose existence offends officialdom," Tuccille points out.
Whether or not the House Judiciary Committee Chairman finds evidence of "a dangerous escalation in the abuse of government officials' leverage over the financial industry," this issue deserves as much attention as government pressure on tech platforms.
QUICK HITS
• A new poll from the Associated Press and the NORC Center for Public Affairs Research finds that 77 percent of those surveyed think Biden is too old to be an effective president for another full term. This view was shared by 89 percent of Republicans and 69 percent of Democrats.
• France is moving to ban the abaya—a full-length robe that some Muslim women wear—from state-run schools.
• Reason's Nick Gillespie interviews Semafor editor (and former BuzzFeed News editor) Ben Smith about his book Traffic and the digital media explosion of the early 21st century.
• Former President Donald Trump "has raised $7.1 million since he was booked at an Atlanta jail Thursday evening," reports Politico. "On Friday alone, Trump raised $4.18 million, making it the single-highest 24-hour period of his campaign to date, according to a person familiar with the totals."
• Wisconsin's Supreme Court, long dominated by conservatives, has swung left.
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Trump hates Jews, and so do I.
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He is socking yet again lol.
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It could be Shrike socking as me too, but here's sarcasmic on the issue:
sarcasmic 6 hours ago
Flag Comment Mute User
Yeah, I don’t like being impersonated. I know you don’t care because you have no honor or integrity, but I do.
https://reason.com/2023/08/22/u-s-emulates-communist-china-in-new-tiktok-draft-agreement/?comments=true#comment-10207583
sarcasmic 5 hours ago
Flag Comment Mute User
Thought there’s be at least a handful of people who don’t approve of liars pretending to be other people.
Boy was I wrong.
https://reason.com/2023/08/22/u-s-emulates-communist-china-in-new-tiktok-draft-agreement/?comments=true#comment-10207655
If you mute the sarc ml you still see your comments
It's someone (user #1167720) changing his (her?) handle to match other commenters here such as JesseAz and ML. The suspicion is that it is Sarcasmic as he does have the motive, and he hasn't been seen recently under his typical handle.
1167720 is the userid I clocked as the impersonator, too.
Same, however, user 1167720 isn't sarcasmic's original id.
Could be another Mary Stack/White Indian incident.
it is pure troll. it has socked sarc as well.
All socks are me! Ask Mother's Lament! They're all me! Meeeeee!
They really are frequently Sarckles.
Blasin Scasin Jeep jop joop
Trumpaloo doo doo
That makes about as much sense as any other comment you typically make.
That's definitely a spoofer. I have the shitmuncher blocked.
It’s a different spoofer than #1167720. I have #1167720 muted so I can tell which comments are his (hers?) more easily.
This one is #1108321. The original Sqrlsy is #27160.
It's me. Just checking to see if Reason had fixed the glitch that allows a commenter to choose a name that exists without any special characters while spelling it exactly the same. The squirrel was the choice since he is so common in the comments and his gibberish is easy to imitate. haha.
In hindsight, should have used all caps somewhere. A one time parody.
Now this is an accurate parody.
See, this is how you spoof someone. It's completely believable that SQRLSY would write a post like this. Take notes lame spoofer.
France is moving to ban the abaya—a full-length robe that some Muslim women wear—from state-run schools.
Not revealing enough for the French.
I'm still amazed we can't see the red suvs or trans shooters manifesto but in under 10 hours we see this one.
Some radical murderers are more equal than others.
If he weren't cisgendered, we wouldn't be be seeing it.
Can someone link to where the Jacksonville shooter, Ryan Palmeter’s manifestos have been posted publicly?
I’ll point out, once again, that within a day of Audrey Hale killing a bunch of little kids we saw several excerpts from Hale’s manifesto, including the Jack Torrance drawing. As far as I can tell, we are getting even fewer excerpts from Palmeter’s manifestos.
But, hey, maybe I don’t know where to look, so please correct me.
[Disclaimer (because I’m going to start including a disclaimer with every single damn comment I make): I am not making any special apologies for transgender people who commit mass murder.]
How did you know I talked about the manifesto if I'm muted? The comment you responded to doesn't mention it.
I have a feeling that Laursen "mutes" people in that he stops responding, but sees them and claims to have muted them so he doesn't have to lose against their arguments and citations.
When you log in and back out and back in of your sock accounts, do other accounts that you normally have muted become temporarily visible?
No idea. Someone should ask Sarc if that happens with Sqrlsy.
I would expect so, since you have to be logged in for the software to load your profile and implement your muting preferences. About once or twice a day, Reason logs me out by some sort of time-out. I usually don't notice until I see some Rob Misek rant that should have been muted because I don't have time for reading bigoted idiocy.
To be fair, when you first come to the comment sections, if you've been logged out for inactivity, you will be faced with all the comments. I sometimes don't notice until I hit the shitstreams from sqrlsy that there's no muted boxes. He *could* have seen your comment *before* he logged in, then logged in specifically to pounce on you.
“Pounce”
I am not making any special apologies for transgender people who commit mass murder.
No, you make special apologies for government actions that favor leftist narratives. The mass murder examples are one example.
Huh? I’m going to try to untangle your somewhat incoherent statement, but it will require some guessing at what you are trying to say:
My guess is that you are saying the Metropolitan Nashville Police Department is not releasing Audrey Hale’s manifesto because they are leftists who are trying to advance a leftist, pro-transgender idealogy narrative.
Is that what you are accusing the Nashville police of?
likely comes from above the police.
Any evidence to back that assumption?
Has there ever been another crime with a manifesto in Nashville that we could use as a baseline comparison? Doubtful, right?
[Disclaimer: Just interested in calling out baseless narratives and sticking to truth. Still not defending the left’s transgender agenda.]
Any evidence to back that assumption?
Defend the government harder, White Mike.
And yes, the Biden administration leaned on Nashville PD. Same way they leaned on social media companies.
“the Biden administration leaned on Nashville PD”
Cite please?
Roars the mighty sealion.
Here's an account from Reason's very own.
https://reason.com/2023/06/12/the-public-has-a-right-to-see-the-nashville-shooters-writings/
"The writings remain under careful review by the MNPD and the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit based in Quantico, Virginia. The motive for Hale's actions has not been established and remains under investigation by the Homicide Unit in consultation with the FBI's Behavioral Analysis Unit. It is known that Hale considered the actions of other mass murderers."
Further down:
Not that the authorities provide any clarity. Tennessee Bureau of Investigations Director David Rausch referred to Hale's documents as "'ramblings' rather than writings that point to a clear motive," according to The Tennessean, which is among those seeking their release. But Metro Nashville Council Member Courtney Johnston said they were "a blueprint on total destruction, and it was so, so detailed at the level of what she had planned." It's impossible to reconcile those characterizations and, in a period of plummeting trust in institutions, members of the public might want to decide for themselves rather than leave dueling officials to agree on a story.
Sounds like some undue misdirection by the Feds. That would be the FBI under the Biden Administration, correct?
Idaho Bob claimed "the Biden administration leaned on Nashville PD", and you cited ... well, really nothing in support of Idaho Bob's assertion.
How do you get "feds" from TN Bureau of Investigation and Metro Nashville Council?
Unfortunately, it probably doesn't matter.
You understand what an assumption is, right?
https://www.fbi.gov/contact-us/field-offices/memphis/news/press-releases/fbi-releases-report-on-nashville-bombing
And this Anthony Quinn Warner guy’s manifesto?
I'll repeat my question that you are replying to, with some emphasis in bold: "Has there ever been another crime with a manifesto in Nashville that we could use as a baseline comparison?
I think he's accusing Johnny Cash of naming his boy Sue and then releasing a song about that in Nashville.
No disclaimer?
[Disclaimer: From now on, if I simply write “Inherited” or forget to include a disclaimer, it means you should trace back up the comment thread for the nearest ancestor comment from me that has a disclaimer.]
Oh gawd, that sounds like more work than watching a 30 second video.
- laursen victimhood narrative.
lol.
Dit..dit..dit...
Victim signal sent.
Via Morse Code no less...
YOU said: "I’m going to start including a disclaimer with every single damn comment I make then moments later violated your own terms. I chuckled when I noticed and comments thusly, because I figured you were being hyperbolic when you said that.
Now you're just moving the goal posts or playing Humpty Dumpty (or a Democrat) where "words mean what I say they mean".
I think that "every single damn comment I make" doesn't normally mean "you should trace back up the comment thread for the nearest ancestor comment from me that has a disclaimer."
But hey, if that's what it takes, I won't hold you to your word going forward, because if you're the only one who knows what the words you type mean--when they clearly don't mean the usual interpretation--then the rest of us cannot hope to understand what it is you're trying to convey.
His manifesto sounds like a plant
The whole thing sounds like a plant...
Red SUV guy didn't have a manifesto. It wasn't a planned attack. He was only in Waukesha that day because his girlfriend/hoe was in Waukesha, and he wanted to beat her up for failing to bail him out.
The red suv that committed the murders did have a manifesto though.
But we wouldn't be able to read it since it's in Cybertronian.
Fair.
The fuck it wasn't a planned attack, and his "manifesto" was a trove of social media posts explicitly stating his hatred of white people.
Okay, he hated white people. The guy is a 5'6 skinny black dude, he hated lots of black people as well because he has a massive chip on his shoulder and a sociopathic narcissism.
His ex-girlfriend/hoe is a black woman who was in Waukesha, and that was the only reason he went there. She didn't bail him out of jail and he was trying to demand money from her. He had a history of abusing her, and she was at a women's shelter in Waukesha at the time. He had also previously rammed her with his car and broken her ankle. He didn't know there was a parade there that day and had no advanced plans to drive through it. He's just a sociopath who ended up there and decided it might be fun to plow over some kids and old ladies, since he was heading that direction anyway.
I don't accept that people can yell "climate change" any time there's a bad storm because I care about the truth. For the same reason, I don't accept that this was a planned, targeted attack just because it was a black guy killing a lot of white people. I'm interested in truth and accuracy.
He was also insane and barely coherent.
But at least his defense in acting as his own attorney was entertaining.
It was 100% a targeted attack, and it's absolutely disgraceful that you're out here regurgitating totalitarian propaganda.
Okay, cool, man.
Maybe a "steered" attack would be more accurate?
Yep.
Reason had nothing to say about 60 people (old women and children) being attacked in Waukesha, where 6 died, but is all over 3 people shot in Jacksonville.
Not to mention the numerous other incidents of black on white murder Reason tries to hide.
One might suspect the FBI runs this rag...
They did have one story about it. One.
https://reason.com/2021/11/22/conservatives-should-resist-the-urge-to-blame-bail-reform-for-the-waukesha-parade-deaths/
TLDR version: Don't blame BLM, Soros prosecutors, or the left.
I get that, but if the guy already had a swastika carved into his gun stock and only shot black people, it doesn't really take a manifesto to discern his motivations. Same thing with the asshole who killed all those people in Waukesha.
The pooner in Nashville is more opaque and it's absolutely sus that the FBI's kept her shit under wraps. If she was simply deranged and went off because that one classmate of hers that she was obsessed with didn't want to fuck her, that's one thing. If she did it because she was a tranny political activist who went ape, that's another.
Interestingly, the Tennessean newspaper, part of the evil Gannett "lamestream media", is suing the government for its release.
https://tcog.info/wp-content/uploads/Tennessean-Gardenhire-Complaint-and-Petition-for-Access-to-Public-Records-with-Exhibits.pdf
Weiss colluded with DoJ on his congressional testimony to avoid giving answers.
https://thefederalist.com/2023/08/28/exclusive-u-s-attorney-weiss-colluded-with-doj-to-thwart-congressional-questioning-emails-show/
This is my shocked face.
I keep telling you guys, words and ideas are dangerous
Musk: SpaceX was told repeatedly that hiring anyone who was not a permanent resident of the United States would violate international arms trafficking law, which would be a criminal offense.
We couldn’t even hire Canadian citizens, despite Canada being part of NORAD!
This is yet another case of weaponization of the DOJ for political purposes.
This is a classic trick. Create so many laws that following one law makes you guilty of a second law. Following the second law makes you guilty of the first law.
They do this so they can basically come after anyone they want.
that seems so smrt but the people implementing it are such idiots how do they pull it off?
Caligula did this so he could murder senators he didnt like.
Caligula also was assassinated by the Senators and Praetorian Guard, IIRC.
White Mike smiles.
MIT keeps donation from company that helps surveil Uyghurs in China
He was too busy at work and as white knight to hear about that issue.
RICO the DOJ
Merrick Garland Appoints Federal Prosecutor David Weiss To Oversee David Weiss
The headline could have come from The Babylon Bee.
I thought it was until clicking on it.
“Given that the investigation involves the President’s son, we believe it is important to provide U.S. Attorney Weiss with special counsel authorities and protections to allow him to investigate an appropriate scope of potentially criminal conduct, avoid the appearance of impropriety, and provide additional assurances to the American people that the Hunter Biden investigation is free from political influence.”
I wonder which political party's 31 Senators wrote that last September?
World Economic Forum, Aug 20, 2018: How Hawaii plans to be the first US state to run entirely on clean energy
"Clean energy" is one of the most blatant pieces of propaganda coming out of the left in decades. It not only leaves out the manufacturing process involved in making wind and solar equipment, it blatantly ignores the entire cradle-to-grave lifecycle of these things. Case in point:
"Wind Turbine Blades Can’t Be Recycled, So They’re Piling Up in Landfills"
By Chris Martin
February 5, 2020
"A wind turbine’s blades can be longer than a Boeing 747 wing, so at the end of their lifespan they can’t just be hauled away. First, you need to saw through the lissome fiberglass using a diamond-encrusted industrial saw to create three pieces small enough to be strapped to a tractor-trailer.
The municipal landfill in Casper, Wyoming, is the final resting place of 870 blades whose days making renewable energy have come to end. The severed fragments look like bleached whale bones nestled against one another.
“That’s the end of it for this winter,” said waste technician Michael Bratvold, watching a bulldozer bury them forever in sand. “We’ll get the rest when the weather breaks this spring.”
Tens of thousands of aging blades are coming down from steel towers around the world and most have nowhere to go but landfills. In the U.S. alone, about 8,000 will be removed in each of the next four years. Europe, which has been dealing with the problem longer, has about 3,800 coming down annually through at least 2022, according to BloombergNEF. It’s going to get worse: Most were built more than a decade ago, when installations were less than a fifth of what they are now.
Built to withstand hurricane-force winds, the blades can’t easily be crushed, recycled or repurposed. That’s created an urgent search for alternatives in places that lack wide-open prairies. In the U.S., they go to the handful of landfills that accept them, in Lake Mills, Iowa; Sioux Falls, South Dakota; and Casper, where they will be interred in stacks that reach 30 feet under.
“The wind turbine blade will be there, ultimately, forever,” said Bob Cappadona, chief operating officer for the North American unit of Paris-based Veolia Environnement SA, which is searching for better ways to deal with the massive waste. “Most landfills are considered a dry tomb.”
That doesn't even get into all the oil leaks that take place on these fucking things.
I noticed quite a few trucks hauling these remains on I80 heading west through Iowa. Chopped up and loaded onto flatbeds.
Use them to make shelters for the homeless.
Find a druid and build erect a Fiberglass-Henge.
Nuclear is very carbon-neutral.
If they really want to run entirely on whatever they define as clean energy, then all goods and tourists better arrive on sailboats (and those goods better be made from and by certified green fairies).
I am tired of the sanctimonious bullshit by renewable power perverts who claim to be 100% pure, but still get shit produced and delivered, to their homes or favorite retail vendor, using dirty fossil fuels. And they rely on global systems that are also tainted.
Wow. Reason is blocking shellenberger. Tried to link his thread of all the science that American Lysenkoism has gotten wrong… trying edit trick.
https://twitchy.com/dougp/2023/08/27/michael-shellenberger-thread-n2386633
Had to use twitchy link. Amazing Reason. Free minds indeed.
Yeah, my Shellenberger twitter link was blocked too. I had to add it via edit.
Sinister of Koch to do it.
Been doing that for months, at least.
It's weird.
Did Shellenberger ever acknowledge how stupidly wrong his David DePape "reporting" was?
"I am the first reporter to get to the bottom of the story, which has far more to do with drugs, homelessness, and pedophilia than QAnon, anti-Semitism, and January 6." Never mind that DePape hadn't lived in Berkeley for years, despite Shellenberger's "scoop" of his (Shellenberger's--he lives in Berkeley) neighbors' recollections of the weirdo Canadian nutjob.
Maybe he hopes you'll never notice.
(And you won't.)
Of cource if trump were a d the act blue would be able to launder 1000 times that much through falsified donation
If wishes were horses, in other words.
The media said climate change, not arson, was behind the fires in Greece. They lied. They have egg on their face now that 160 people have been arrested for arson.
Sorry Michael, but I bet that they don’t actually give a shit.
How the hell are there 160 people doing arson!?! A few, maybe 20, I can grasp, but 160? Just, wow. 160 people almost sounds like there could be a coordinated effort to set fires.
160 people almost sounds like there could be a coordinated effort to set fires.
It doesn't sound like, it is a coordinated effort. They throw paint at masterpieces and glue themselves to floors and runways.
Fires are way more dramatic and scare the hell out of everyone. It's a perfect propaganda vehicle.
I thought it would be mostly climate alarmists, but it looks like it was open-borders illegal migrants from the middle east.
Cooking fires instead of arson, perhaps?
Why not both?
>>How the hell are there 160 people doing arson!?!
How many Greeks does it take to burn down Greece?
Well...
"Since the start of this year’s fire season, fire department officials have arrested 163 people on fire-related charges, the government spokesperson Pavlos Marinakis said on Friday, including 118 for negligence and 24 for deliberate arson."
Even 24 seems a bit high to me, but maybe pyromania is big in Greece?
You, on the other hand, just gulped down 160 and asked for a second load...
Pyromania seems to often appear where there are immigrants from the middle east.
'Climate Change' High Priest declares virtual war on 'Deniers,' calls them 'Inexorable Threat'
"Without facts or economics on their side, they flatly deny what is happening to our planet and what we must do to save it. They incite a movement against what they falsely label ‘climate change fanaticism,’ as they conveniently forget that the dictionary definition of a cult is the dismissal of facts in devotion to a lie."
Sarcasmic levels of self awareness in that last sentence.
"And while they refuse to accept the facts behind increasingly obvious damages, which the First Minister listed, they lash out at the truth-tellers instead, and label indisputable evidence as hysteria. They compound the already difficult challenge of the climate crisis, by promising to do more of exactly what created this crisis in the first place. So now, humanity is inexorably threatened by humanity itself, by those seducing people into buying into a completely fictitious, alternative reality, where we don’t need to act and we don’t even need to care."
What a frightening lunatic, and again, more Sarcasmic levels of self awareness in that last sentence.
So now, humanity is inexorably threatened by humanity itself, by those seducing people into buying into a completely fictitious, alternative reality, where we don’t need to act and we don’t even need to care.”
He's justifying a future genocide. They want anyone outside of the groupthink, dead.
To save democracy we have to remove democracy. To save humanity we must end humanity. The democrat platform.
As provided to them by the WEF and super-uber-elite class.
Kerry is a piece of shit. Glad he has a black budget from Biden to hide his work.
Eo that says no enviromentalists is allowed to use any carbon based products
Does that include stuff made using dirty energy?
Well, since humanity is the carbon they want removed, I'm hoping it includes the environmentalists.
Everyone who is left handed gets to pick one person to survive, aside from themselves, and the rest are Soylent Green. Bribes will be accepted.
For those of us who enjoy schadenfreude...
Liberals gloated, then reality struck
Bowman (D) gloating about political lawfare sums up the banana Republic nicely.
Wait, so the conspiracy is to:
'win more elections'
So they can:
'change more laws'
And the result is:
'democracy is in danger'
Really? That sounds a lot like democracy at every stage.
Democracy's the conspiracy when you're a fascist.
NYT says elections are bad for democracy.
https://inytimes.pressreader.com/article/281702619262209
What the author wrote was more along the lines of, "the political class is bad for democracy." Why the NYT chose that headline and then doubled down when they changed it can only be explained by their need to conflate everything.
I tend to agree. The actual text was though-provoking--I'm not convinced by it, but I accept it as a valid point-of-view with some potential positives. NYT as usual screwed the pooch.
MAGAts will lap it up, obviously. But there aren't enough MAGAts to swing the next election.
But don't worry, Trump will be fine! MAGAts will keep sending the "billionaire" all the money he asks for.
Ivy League business schools to offer ESG majors and courses in fall, despite controversy
But universities have not become indoctrination camps.
More like indoctrination spas.
Ahhh advanced cource in extortion
Elections sufficiently fortified.
The first act by the dems on the court was to violate multiple laws and regulations regarding the court. Was pretty amazing.
And left media applauded it.
https://apnews.com/article/wisconsin-supreme-court-conservative-liberal-abortion-redistricting-f0ac7688b73620e5be0eb8ccc5746ae3
Send it to SCOTUS and see what happens.
Libs will flip.
Democrats doesn't seem to care much about actual laws anymore unless it's to use them as a cudgel against their enemies. They have become a danger to the republic and it's continuing future as a functioning constitutional republic.
Factio Democratica delenda est. It's the only viable option at this point.
They never cared about actual laws, that was just bullshit they tried to sell to us when we were younger. Much like some of the erstwhile posters here, the last 8 years has emboldened them to just rip the mask right off (well the scooby doo mask, they'll line up to put the little paper ones on again).
On Friday alone, Trump raised $4.18 million...
Criminal justice systems are best when they're profitable.
He should get arrested more often!
Did banks hand private financial data to the FBI without legal process?
Yes. The real question is why do our leaders year after year continue to fund them if they don't like this kind of behavior?
Who are the "our leaders" you refer to? And in what way are they "funding" them? (And who's the "them" here?)
Apart from that, great comment Mike!
After the GOP debates, ENB posted this grammatically incorrect screed:
Appears it was more than apocryphal and her name is Miriam 'Penny' Hopper. Sad Reason continues to employ such low quality hacks like ENB.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12447595/ron-desantis-penny-pan-abortion-miriam-hopper.html
Sad that you have to read the Daily Mail and BBC to get American news.
Various secretaries of state are already discussing leaving Trump off ballots even if he is the GOP nominee. Local story.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/trumps-enemies-come-up-with-new-scheme-to-take-him-out
This is no surprise to me. I mentioned this scenario to a couple people last week. They said it couldn't happen.
The more this kind of thing comes up the more I'm convinced he is the best option for president.
The more this kind of thing comes up the more I’m convinced he is the
bestlast option for president.FIFY
I will write T in every single time I vote.
School board?
hadn't thought about it, but probably now. gracias.
And the ultimate issue, barring Trump based on clearly-politically motivated conviction, or even just indictment, has been obvious since the New York tax-campaign-finance-misdemeaner-felony-statute-of-limitations shenanigans.
One or more AGs was, one way or another, going to effectively rob ~50% of the electorate across the nation of the ability to vote for a opposition candidate and former President. As one of ML’s links above indicates, much of the reason what Trump does is ‘unprecedented’ is because the opposition Presidents before him weren’t so unprecedentedly stupid and fanatically anti-democratic.
What is to stop other secretaries of state from removing FJB from the ballot?
Probably not much at this point. However, if some Republican SOSs remove Biden, there will be screams, hollers, whining, and gnashing of teeth from the media. Never mind that they did it second.
The media can scream and holler and gnash their teeth all they want.
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/08/12/prof-michael-mcconnell-responding-about-the-fourteenth-amendment-insurrection-and-trump/?comments=true#comment-10195924
Randal admitted that the Baude/Paulsen interpretation of the constitution means that SoS's can remove FJB from the ballot based on a personal feeling that botching the withdrawal from Afghanistan constituted aid or comfort to the Taliban.
damn please someone do this. It will be so great.
Flight of fancy:
Ronnie D. declares a State Of Emergency in FL (Immigration, Climate, COVID, take your pick) the night before ballots go out and removes FJB's name from the ballots* because why the fuck not?
*And thereby automatically earning my vote in 2028.
The legal argument being pushed is that they don't need any conviction nor even a charge. That the election officials of each state can make a determination given the wording of the 14th to just take people off they feel worked near an insurrection.
Nah, they can still vote for him...it's just that if he's elected he'll unfortunately be stuck in a prison somewhere in Georgia.
https://ethicsalarms.com/2023/08/25/friday-open-forum-21/comment-page-1/#comment-854002
I will comment on Will Baude’s and Michael Stokes Paulsen’s claims.
1. Baude and Paulsen claimed that 14th Amendment, Section 3 “covers a broad range of conduct against the authority of the constitutional order, including many instances of indirect participation or support”.
There is, of course, no support for their interpretation. To the contrary, Article I of the Constitution defines treason as waging war on the United States, or providing aid or comfort to the enemies thereof. The reason for specifying what treason is was because nations in Europe were infamously known for adopting broad, sweeping definitions of treason. By narrowly defining treason, the authors of the Constitution sought to limit the abuse.
Section 3 simply disqualifies people for insurrection; it does not redefine insurrection to include a broad range of conduct.
2. Baude and Paulsen claimed that 14th Amendment Section 3 is self-executing. . No, it is not. In fact, Section 5 plainly reads “The Congress shall have power to enforce, by appropriate legislation, the provisions of this article.” Indeed, in the context of providing a remedy for equal protection violations, Congress had provided federal courts jurisdiction, and of course, continued to provide the Supreme Court jurisdiction to review state court judgments on federal law issues, which now include equal protection. It does not mean, for example, you could simply kill someone because you feel they had violated equal protection.
They claimed that state election officials could remove federal candidates from the ballot notwithstanding an express grant of authority either by a provision of the Constitution or Section 5 legislation. But why does it stop there.
If it is self-executing, anyone can enforce this provision. A person who just signed an enlistment contract with the United States Marine Corps and took the oath of enlistment could, under their view, feel that FJB provided aid or comfort to the Taliban by botching the withdrawal from Afghanistan, and, as such, could legally depose FJB from office.
But would this not be mutiny and likely a whole host of UCMJ offenses? The Constitution is the supreme law of the land, and, under the Baude/Paulsen interpretation of the Constitution, a Marine private would have the authority to depose FJB no matter what the inferior UCMJ reads.
If a freshly-enlisted person decided to enforce Section 3 of the 14th Amendment, are Baude and Paulsen willing to represent that enlistee pro bono if the enlistee is court-martialed for mutiny?
The Volokh article comments were straight asinine Washington Post level. I don't see how you or Brett post there.
They have been that way since the VC had a stop at WaPo.
Which is how and where they picked up idiots like Kirkland.
That explains so much.
Kirkland was actually at the original VC site prior to the WaPo stop. He has always been a pest on the site. Think Prof Volokh gave him a D or something.
Sarcastro, the VC version of sarcasmic who was a "physics major" that couldn't get a job so became a government patent clerk, has also followed VC around.
Prof Volokh gave Kirkland too high a grade. Kirkland's only worthy of an F at best.
Literally the exact same logic they're using to go after Michael Eastman and most of Trump's other associates could be used to arrest these people for illegal election interference. They're trying to pressure legal theories about why people have the duty to not put the candidate on the ballot, despite the fact that he's never even been charged with insurrection, much less found guilty of it.
Does anyone doubt that this is a blatant double standard?
France is moving to ban the abaya—a full-length robe that some Muslim women wear—from state-run schools.
As is their right since they pay for and administrate the schools.
Get rid of public schools and the problem is solved..
The power shift on the Wisconsin Supreme Court is very large. It is worth noting that with the exception of Justice Brian Hagedorn the conservatives have always been very partisan. Justice Hagedorn has been more the straight conservative. I will be interested in seeing his opinions on upcoming cases. You could see him join the more liberal justices if he feels they are reflecting conservative jurisprudence.
>>Some have settled on "divisive rhetoric" as the culprit.
censors.
>>The shooter ... was white. All of his victims ... were black.
I think you're supposed to capitalize Black now because slavery or something but also I'd love to hear what made the shooter white and the victims black.
Here in the emerald city the cops are looking for a group of teens responsible for at least 15 armed robberies. In a one minute segment at the top of the newscast they didn’t mention what the teens they’re looking for look like. But they want the public’s help identifying and catching them before they hurt someone.
Lol. That’s fucking retarded. Just another “conservative victimhood narrative” to laursen I suppose.
"When they're dead, it's just 'black'." - Elizabeth Nolan Brown Manual Of Style
>>A new poll from the Associated Press ... finds 77 percent of those surveyed think Biden is too old to be an effective president for another full term.
when you lose the AP it's Michelle's turn.
"It Isn't 'Divisive Rhetoric' That Kills People"
How about mean tweets?
In other news, approximately 118,999,999 U.S. gun owners did not use a weapon to commit murder or otherwise violate Life, Liberty, or Property.
“A reasonable extrapolation puts the amount of ammunition produced for the United States market at somewhat over 9 billion rounds,”
“20,138 The estimated number of firearm deaths, excluding suicides, in 2022
Only about 0.000223% of bullets fired killed someone (other than the shooter); or, 99.999776% of bullets fired were used for something other than killing people. Seems low for things with “no other purpose than to kill people”.
P.S., Seems odd that the FBI statistics for total murders & non-negligent manslaughter for all weapons, etc. is about 1/3 of the number quoted above for just gun deaths…lots of interesting things to be found in FBI’s murder stats…but to mention them is racist, so I won't.
And all of that ammo divided among approximately one billion pieces of small arms means 9 rounds per piece of small arms. And if someone is a bad shot, that doesn’t bode well for completed mass shootings.
No, the stats would not be racist at all if properly understood.
What they would show is that a small number out of fractions of a whole population commit the bulk of violent crimes, which in turn are overwhelmingly among individuals of the same demographic and who typically know each other. Crime is far more from the “in” group than the “other.”
You've been waiting all morning! Now the Buttplug Index has been updated! The new Buttplug-odometer GOP Horse Race handicap index:
Fatass Donnie: favorite at 5-2 favorite – can he avoid prison? A conviction would help his poll #s like the mugshot does. 100% favorable rating among sociopaths!
Da Meatball: 6-1 underdog. Needs Donnie to trip in the mud on turn 1. Boring guy. Needs to lie more.
Chris Christie: 7-1 dark horse rising. Got the Never Trump track and ridin' it Gangnam Style!
Mike Pence 17-1 needs to expand past the Fundie Nut vote. MAGA cult hates him. No path if Fundies don't move to him.
Doug Burgum 80-1 only real Bidness man – a rarity these days. Eyebrows cost him votes.
Nikki Haley 100-1 only filly in the field. Scratching back though.
Tim Scott 500-1 Token blaek in the race. Herman Cain, Ben Carson, Alan Keyes never had a chance either
Vivek 500-1 The Swamprat is a Hindu! Fundies will never support him! Youth vote is too small in the GOP for him to move up
Asa 2000-1 too nice for the GOP
Next update - Sep 3
Done stealing nicks for the morning? Now it's time to troll?
I'm too lazy to sock.
Besides, I want all the wingnut hate to myself. Focus, idiot.
Nah, you're just too busy fapping to underage porn.
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Ah, so it wasn't you.
Damn it, one of these days I swear I'm gonna win the "which Reason MAGAt made the news today" pool...
"When we have this kind of divisive rhetoric, this is exactly what happens,"
Only the government should have military-style divisive rhetoric.
^^^ great line.
>>Did banks hand private financial data to the FBI without legal process?
this is the question you ask? ~~ love, Robert L. Peters
The issue here is not whether we broke a few rules, or took a few liberties with our female party guests. We did.
I swear that movie has a quote for most any occasion.
the Germans?
Forget it. He's rolling.
Well what we supposed to do, ya moron?
I've got news for you, pal. They're gonna nail us no matter what we do, so we might as well have a good time.
Federal judge sets March trial date in Trump's election interference case
The trial will begin in the middle of the Republican presidential primaries. Special counsel Jack Smith had requested a January trial, while Trump pushed for a 2026 start date.
NBC.
Televise this bitch! I want to see Donnie in his orange jumpsuit on the home screen!
"I want to see Donnie in his orange jumpsuit on the home screen!"
Setting aside the inherent fascist nature of your wish, that's going to work out about as well for you as the mugshot did.
Seems like you're trying to reelect Trump by popular acclaim, given what happens every time you guys perpetrate another outrage.
Yes, there are people who are triggered by the religious spectacle of Orange Martyrdom.
But, there just aren't enough MAGAts to swing the election to Trump.
So it will end up just another opportunity lost to elect a rational Republican...
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
My, does not seem at all political.
Keep applauding banana republic nonsense.
Interestingly, 3 of the 4 trials saw either the judge or the prosecutor picking the same date, immediately prior to super Tuesday for the trial. The other is like a month later.
Strange coincidence, that.
Well I, for one, always feel like killing black people with my swastika-emblazoned rifles when I hear about how wrong it is to give puberty-blockers to children. Who doesn't?
"The division has to stop, the hate has to stop, the rhetoric has to stop," Jacksonville Mayor Donna Deegan said.
Look, Mayor Deegan, if you need a little more compulsory, love-based multiplication, you need to take that up with Mr. Deegan, not the electorate.
"That wokeness that they want to die is Black people"
I've seen others trying to make this sort of point, but this is ignoring the plain fact that the most "woke" people on the planet are younger white women, usually somewhere in the alphabet spectrum, who want to pretend to be "activists" for all the "oppressed" people. These sorts of people think that black people cannot manage to procure identification in order to vote, that black people cannot get into college without affirmative action, that black people need separate (but equal?) "safe spaces" on campus, in general that black people are little more than mentally-challenged children who need to be coddled by the State--and never be held responsible for any negative actions.
OTOH, I think most conservatives would say that the shooter saved us the trouble of killing him, because they're not nazis, have no truck with nazis, and really aren't racists despite what the media might push.
also the tranny movement is the spearhead of the extreme wokification and the black community is way less supportive of that than any other cohort except maybe mexican immigrants.
my favorite story about woke backfiring with black people is when Barack Obama achieved record turnouts in california because very black person wanted to be part of the historical vote for him but they were all anti-gay as well and voted down gay marriage at the same time.
So delicious and I dont even oppose gay marriage just love seeing the insufferable libs get a loss.
Nobody has caused more damage to this country than affluent white women. It's not even close.
repeal the 19th. please.
Imagine what President Goldwater could have accomplished...
WaPo says Wisconsin Supreme Court " banned absentee ballot drop boxes ".
It did no such thing.
The Wisconsin Supreme Court did rule that the Wisconsin Elections Commission (WEC) gave inappropriate advice in its guidance to local elections clerks that drop boxes are a valid way to return an absentee ballot. It also ruled that no one can return a ballot in person on behalf of another voter, according to state law, despite what the WEC may have told local officials about allowing ballot harvesting.
What they said basically, was that "If Wisconsin wants drop boxes and ballot harvesting, the legislature knows how to write laws to allow them..."
Specifically:
¶49Third, the legislature knows how to write a statute accomplishing the work DRW would have Wis. Stat. §5.06 perform. SeeState v. Yakich, 2022 WI8, ¶24, 400 Wis.2d549, 970 N.W.2d12 (explaining plain meaning may be derived by looking at differences between two statutes and noting "the legislature knew how to draft [different] language"
...
¶53Subchapter IV of chapter 6 of the Wisconsin statutes begins with a statement of legislative policy that cannot be reconciled with the statements of policy contained in WEC's memos:
LEGISLATIVE POLICY.The legislature finds that voting is a constitutional right, the vigorous exercise of which should be strongly encouraged. In contrast, voting by absentee ballot is a privilege exercised wholly outside the traditional safeguards of the polling place. The legislature finds that the privilege of voting by absentee ballot must be carefully regulated to prevent the potential for fraud or abuse; to prevent overzealous solicitation of absent electors who may prefer not to participate in an election; to prevent undue influence on an absent elector to vote for or against a candidate or to cast a particular vote in a referendum; or other similar abuses.
The statutory requirements governing absentee voting must be completely satisfied or ballots may not be counted:
INTERPRETATION. Notwithstanding s. 5.01 (1), with respect to matters relating to the absentee ballot process, ss. 6.86, 6.87 (3) to (7) and 9.01 (1) (b) 2. and 4. shall be construed as mandatory. Ballots cast in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be counted. Ballots counted in contravention of the procedures specified in those provisions may not be included in the certified result of any election.
§6.84(2). "[M]andatory" election requirements "must be strictly adhered to" and "strictly observed." State ex rel. Ahlgrimm v. State Elections Bd., 82 Wis.2d585,592–93, 263 N.W.2d152 (1978).
¶54Despite these provisions, no defendant can point to any statute authorizing ballot drop boxes; instead, the defendants argue no statute expressly prohibits them. The absence of an express prohibition, however, does not mean drop boxes comport with "the procedures specified" in the election laws. Wis. Stat. §6.84(2). Nothing in the statutory language detailing the procedures by which absentee ballots may be cast mentions drop boxes or anything like them.
B. The Merits
WEC's staff may have been trying to make voting as easy as possible during the pandemic, but whatever their motivations, WEC must follow Wisconsin statutes. Good intentions never override the law.[25]
[25]Justice Ann Walsh Bradley accuses the court of "erect[ing] yet another barrier for voters," dissent, ¶205, but to the extent any "barriers" to voting exist, they are of the legislature's making. Establishing rules governing the casting of ballots outside of election day rests solely within the power of the people's representatives because such regulations affect only the privilege of absentee voting and not the right to vote itself. Justice Ann Walsh Bradley says "[a] ballot drop box is a simple and perfectly legal solution to make voting easier[.]" Id., ¶207. While they might be a simple solution, the decision to devise solutions to make voting easier belongs to the legislature, not WEC and certainly not the judiciary. While the dissenters would permit ballot drop boxes, the court must respect the constitutional restraints on our power and refuse to act as a super-legislature. It poses a grave threat to democracy to mislead the people into believing we are one.
Teigen v. Wisconsin Elections Commission :: 2022 :: Wisconsin Supreme Court Decisions :: Wisconsin Case Law :: Wisconsin Law :: US Law :: Justia
Thanks for that excruciating explanation.
Tldr, but I respect the effort.
Did banks hand private financial data to the FBI without legal process?
Betteridge's law of headlines would prompt us to say "no," but in this case I'm going to have to assume that this is the exception to the rule.
They don't seriously believe a causal relationship; in fact, they don't care. They simply are using a current event for propaganda purposes.
This is only partly true. They certainly do not believe that any of the things they cite inspired this incident. That is a transparent lie.
But they do believe in a causal relationship between "divisive rhetoric" and violence and voting behavior. That is why they have been making a concerted effort to push "divisive rhetoric" in the name of creating actual divisions since at least 2014 with the "Hands up, don't shoot" lie. The Obama administration knew within the first 24 hours that this slogan was a lie.... yet they held a gun to everyone's head so that they would remain silent for a month while BLM rioted to promote the "Hands up, don't shoot" lie.
This is just a continuation of that strategy. None of these people believe for even 1 second that LGBTQIA+ issues are in any way related to racism (the black community is at least an order of magnitude less accepting on that front than the white community), yet they conflate sex change operations for prepubescent kids with unarmed black people being shot. Why?
For the same reason that the Democrat National Committee sent my wife and I racially charged outrage porn every single day for 3 months leading into the 2000 election. The best of these was a full page cardstock, coated slick of a photograph of the back of a pickup truck with Texas plates - with rusty chains hanging from it and a suggestion of blood.
They want people of different races to hate and fear each other. They have taken no actions that would lead anyone to believe otherwise... and they have been quite open and explicit about it since 2020.
And since divisive rhetoric doesn't cause violence - exactly where do you suppose our libertarian editor wants the blame placed for all of the murders committed by BLM/Antifa in the name of the violent (and most often dishonest) rhetoric that was spread in 2020 and years prior? I mean, the Democrat leadership made it very clear in words and actions that this was the desired outcome. Where else to place the blame? We are pretending that saying "be peaceful" is a coded message to go get yourself shot in a bizarre attempt to overthrow the government while armed with baseball caps., so why not acknowledge that saying "go out and confront people in the streets" when combined with "and we will fund your bail and legal defense" along with "and our prosecutors will ensure that you do not get charged with assault or arson for your actions" is a little more direct and causal in relation to the violence that followed?
The libertarian dilemma (and why we will never have an enduring libertarian society): what to do with the ass hats that defy libertarian principles?
The murderer had been just a normal, well-adjusted National Socialist until the divisive rhetoric set him off. /sarc
Words can influence people to action, but how can we predict how psychopaths or all-around nuts will react to particular stimuli? Charles Manson said he was influenced by the Beatles.