Say Goodbye to Permissionless Travel
Americans will need a visa to visit Europe in 2024. Meanwhile, Europeans who have been to Cuba are discovering they can't come to the U.S., because terrorism.

Once upon a time, citizens of the United States could travel to almost every country in the European Union for 90 days without asking any government for permission beyond showing a passport at the initial point of entry. It was—and still is, for a few waning months—a marvelous if underacknowledged achievement for liberty.
Alas, the days of frictionless travel will soon be a memory. Starting at a so-far-unspecified date in early 2024, Americans and residents of 62 other countries that currently enjoy visa-free visitation to the Schengen Area of the E.U. will need to pay a fee and submit an online application (including biometric information, work experience, medical conditions, and initial itinerary), then pass a criminal/security background check, before enjoying that croissant in gay Paree. The grimly named European Travel Information and Authorisation System (ETIAS) is projected to cost 7 euros per application and take up to 14 days to render a decision.
Before you start shaking your fist at freedom-hating Eurocrats, know that ETIAS is the belated continental answer to a system the U.S. has imposed on residents of friendly countries since 2009, called the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, or ESTA. Like ETIAS, ESTA is a response to 21st-century terrorist attacks and combines modest fees ($21) with less-than-instantaneous turnaround times (a promised 72 hours). Both either tweak or torpedo (depending on your point of view) the notion of reciprocal "visa waiver" travel between high-trust countries.
U.S. passports have long been given the red carpet treatment worldwide, due to the country's economic heft and traditional leadership role in negotiating down international barriers to the movement of people (and goods). That latter ethic began to deteriorate after the Cold War, with the rise of bipartisan anti-illegal immigration politics in the early 1990s, and then in earnest after Saudi nationals pulverized the World Trade Center with highjacked planes on September 11, 2001.
The Implementing Recommendations of the 9/11 Commission Act of 2007 mandated that travelers from Visa Waiver countries (which now number 40) submit an application using a machine-readable passport, volunteer plenty of personal information, and answer correctly a series of potentially disqualifying questions. As some of us mentioned at the time, "Whatever we impose on the world, the world will get around to imposing on us."
We have since imposed still more restrictions, which many Europeans are discovering this summer to their chagrin. First was the 2015 exclusion (backed by several libertarian-leaning legislators) of dual nationals of both an existing Visa Waiver country and of either Iran, Iraq, Sudan, or Syria, as well as anyone (aside from those in selected professions) who had visited any of those countries since 2011. Then in 2016, the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) added Libya, Somalia, and Yemen to the list.
Having been thus teed up by the administration of Barack Obama, President Donald Trump in his first days in office singled out those exact seven countries for a travel and refugee ban. And he was not done. All it takes is an official (if political and arbitrary) U.S. government designation of being a state sponsor of terrorism for a country to be declared retroactively off-limits for prospective visa-free visitors to America.
So, beginning in 2019, citizens of Visa Waiver countries who had visited North Korea since 2011 were no longer eligible for Visa Waiver treatment. Then in August 2022 (based on a late Trump administration decision), Cuba was added to the don't-go-there list retroactive to 2021; the ESTA application system was updated with a Cuba-travel question just this month.
What to Europeans seemed like a routine questionnaire administered mostly by airline companies has now produced the shocking outcome that they have to spend $160 and wait many, many months to maybe (or maybe not!) obtain permission to travel into the United States. More than 300,000 Europeans from Spain, Germany, the United Kingdom, France, Italy, and Portugal alone visited Cuba in 2022, according to the Cuban government.
So, because of 9/11, and the 2014 terrorist attacks worldwide, and the partisan seesawing of policy toward communist Cuba, peaceful Europeans who want to spend money in the United States are being thwarted in the name of fighting terrorism. It is a foolish policy that will definitely make America poorer while having a marginal (if any) impact on safety.
Could the E.U. retaliate in some way, exempting more U.S. passport holders from the already modified Visa Waiver system? On the one hand, visa policies are definitionally reciprocal; on the other, Washington has more heft and can move with much more bureaucratic speed than Brussels. The most likely targets for any future retribution would be Americans holding dual citizenship in disfavored countries, or perhaps even those who have traveled to countries that Eurocrats have deemed beyond the pale. Always remember that it happened here first.
Governments love having humans maximally searchable on databases, using digitized identification. For a long time, it was cranky Americans, with their stubborn notions of privacy and liberty—the right to move through life without showing papers to people with guns—who led the resistance against being answerable, of having to ask officials for permission. Now it's us pushing the rest of the "free world" toward having global biometric and banking information just a single government click away. Shame, that.
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Once upon a time, citizens of the United States could travel to almost every country in the European Union for 90 days without asking any government for permission beyond showing a passport at the initial point of entry.
Pro tip, bruh, that's permission.
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The last time I traveled to Europe I needed a Visa. It's not a big deal. That was almost 22 years ago.
I needed one for Africa, but not Europe.
If they want a visa, I don't much care. If they want biometric, banking, or other personal data, they can fuck right off.
And our TSA protectors dance around the examination booth chanting "We wanna see your pee-peeee."
One less than respectful traveler told his TSA fondler, respectfully, "Sir if you're rubbing that for you, that's OK. But if you're doing it for me, just a little faster, please." The would-be traveler was removed from the security line, frog-marched out of the airport, and at last report, has not been seen since!
Once upon at time the United States was a first world country too.
I cherish the memory
Factfully spoken
"Once upon at time the United States was a first world country too."
Well 50 years of Libertarian political ideology has had it's consequences.
Wait, the US has been Libertarian these past 50 years? Ha, the bureaucrats have done a very good job of hiding that!
Importing millions upon millions of third-world immigrants, who more often than not simply carry on in their third-world ways, tends to have that effect.
Are we reciprocating? All EU citizens should need to apply for a visa to visit U. S.?
No of course not. This state Admin State Dept isn't standing up for us. Cowards !
Um, we put more restrictions on them first. Even if that weren't the case, I'm not sure how restricting others is going to make us more free. Much like retaliatory tariffs, it's much more likely to lead to a vicious cycle that leaves everyone worse off.
That's the way big spenders and me are treated.
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Before you start shaking your fist at freedom-hating Eurocrats, know that ETIAS is the belated continental answer to a system the U.S. has imposed on residents of friendly countries since 2009, called the Electronic System for Travel Authorization, or ESTA.
That's it, shake your fist at Trump!
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So retro.
Are we reciprocating? All EU citizens should need to apply for a visa to visit U. S.?
No of course not. This state Admin State Dept isn't standing up for us. Cowards !
How is Matt shaking his fist at Trump? The ESTA was established in 2008, although didn't become mandatory until January 2009. That means, at the time, George W Bush was president and Trump was still a registered Democrat.
Thanks, Obama.
Let's have a big hand for Bush, Obama, Trump and Biden. It's not like any of them did anything to make things better.
Let's thank The Don.
U.S. passports have long been given the red carpet treatment worldwide, due to the country's economic heft and traditional leadership role in negotiating down international barriers to the movement of people (and goods).
I believe this is what the WEF types call "managing the decline".
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It’s another sign the American empire is dying.
"It’s another sign the American empire is dying."
That's what happens when you embrace Libertarian economic theory.
Yeah, when was the last time we "embraced" libertarian economic theory?
You do realize that the Libertarians are those crazy guys in the corner who are calling for the end of the Fed, right? I'd think that, if Libertarians were guiding monetary policy, the Federal Reserve would be gone by now.
They're the ones who are tired of manipulating interest rates, because when they are forced low, businesses take more risks thinking that the risks are safe, only to realize after some time they've produced inflation and overspent, and realize they need to cut back.
When was the last time the interest rate was allowed to float, without the Government having any say on what it should be?
Let's thank The Don.
For a long time, it was cranky Americans, with their stubborn notions of privacy and liberty—the right to move through life without showing papers to people with guns—who led the resistance against being answerable, of having to ask officials for permission.
How do you expect to catch illegals without people with guns checking papers?
I wondered the same thing when I went to a restaurant during 2022 and they wouldn’t let me in without a vaccine passport.
Edit: But... c'mon, Alt righty-rightypants Ron Paul, masks aren't mere talismans, so get off your freedom-ey high horse!
You felt like you were going to be uprooted from your life, arrested, jailed, and then deported, for not wearing a mask? You need therapy dude. Big time.
There were a lot of people pushing to have you lose your job, be denied medical care and be excluded from normal social and commercial activities if you didn't have a vax passport. It didn't happen. But those people haven't given up and will try again when the opportunity presents itself.
I thought a lot of the restrictions would be permanent. I was wrong. And I'm glad. It's a positive. Lines at the grocery store are getting shorter because people aren't so far away from each other. We're shaking hands again. The assholes lost.
So did a lot of small businesses and landlords that went broke.
You definitely lost pussy.
The assholes made serious progress preparing the sheep for their next sheering, or castration.
Ran into Dan yesterday helping JD move. He's helped so many people do the same I was surprised and disappointed more people didn't show up. Such is life.
Yes, heaven forbid you don't have the right to spread a deadly disease around.
Want unequivocal freedom? Go live off the grid away from everyone. You're welcome.
Ok Tony
"Yes, heaven forbid you don’t have the right to spread a deadly disease around."
And yet your mom squeezed you out of her vag.
The best part of you was flushed down the toilet at your mammys crack house
How would he spread the disease to anyone but wrong thinker vax deniers?
Actually, we do have that right. That's how it's always been. That's how it has to be. Trying to enforce such a standard would be an absolute shit show and preclude any possibility of human freedom and autonomy. If you think there are a lot of frivolous lawsuits now, just imagine how it would be if you could sue someone for giving you a cold.
Infectious diseases are a part of life. Everyone carries them, everyone spreads them, everyone gets sick sometimes. Get over it.
Vaccinated people spread the deadly disease around, too.
And so do masked people. Particularly those who aren't wearing N95 masks properly.
Then why do you and your fellow travelers fight to make knowingly spreading AIDS legal?
"Alt righty-rightypants Ron Paul"
Please don't take this the wrong way, but you're a fucking cunt.
"I wondered the same thing when I went to a restaurant during 2022 and they wouldn’t let me in without a vaccine passport."
1 .1 million dead Americans and you are still mindless.
I suspect 300 million more and you would still be just as stupid.
That is Mighty Libertarian of you.
Vaccine doesn’t stop the spread, brainiac. They admitted they lied about that. But I guess you’re still working off the 2021 script.
Such a stupid comment. Congrats.
Restaurants run by would-be dictators are not my only source of food, so I can live with that. On the other hand, customers are their only source of $, and those who are so pure as to refuse to do business and make $ from the "unwashed" will be able to survive only in very select and "pure" locations.
And may whatever god you may believe in help you if you do choose to interpose yourself between an actual man and the only source of that which he really does "require" to live. So many of the pure and virtuous fail to think about - to mentally extend preliminary situations that they envision and make them feel good far enough out to see - what the (their) actual end might be like if they succeed in denying their intact male antagonist that which he actually requires to live.
I went to an NYC deli during the pandemic and had to show my vaccine card. It was run by a bunch of very old people. I really didn't mind that they preferred to cater to vaccinated people. Maybe one of them had a weak immune system. Being vaccinated wouldn't insure that no one who came in had Covid, but it cut down that risk a bit. They didn't seem to be losing that much business though I'm sure they got some pushback. I went back recently and no masks, no vaccines were required.
I love how your idea of liberty is one where Americans can travel to *any* country without producing papers. As if that is somehow a good thing or "right" in the sense of the word.
And yes, of course having a simple questionnaire and a few bucks to travel to Europe means we are just oh so close to "global biometric and banking information a single government click away."
Do you actually believe this stupid shit you spew or are you just doing it for the gullible and easily misled?
Don’t you even open borders, bruh?
It is a right, absolutely. And not just for Americans, but for anyone who has not lost that right due to criminal conviction.
But we went sicko after 9/11, even requiring a passport between the US and Canada, so turnabout with the EU seems only fair.
Maybe it's about time for Americans to re-grow a pair and realize that liberty is more valuable than (an illusion of) safety.
p.s. If anyone knows how to find a like to previous posts on Reason comments, you can find my story of crossing, perfectly legally, from Maine into New Brunswick in the middle of a potato field..... long before 9/11.
(including biometric information, work experience, medical conditions, and initial itinerary), then pass a criminal/security background check
“global biometric and banking information a single government click away.” appears to be exactly what they are doing.
And it's just dumb (as are the similar restrictions on Europeans visiting the US). The current arrangement has existed for a long time and it's not a problem.
rd thinks you shouldn't have the right to visit somewhere for a week, but any disease ridden criminal should be able to enter your country, and live off/steal from the native tax payer for life.
"live off/steal from the native tax payer for life."
You mean like the Parasite Republican states live off money they steal from the Democratic states?
I thought redistribution of wealth through taxation from those that have it to those that don't was a "good thing". Are you saying that taxation is theft?
He spreads the lie that red states “siphon” money — turns out that what that consists of is:
Medicare & Social Security (which those people WERE TAXED FOR THE PROMISE OF FUTURE BENEFITS, all their lives, even though the systems are set up as paygo);
Military bases (where the “leeched” money is for DOING AN ACTUAL JOB);
Benefits to college towns and blue cities (red areas get less).
Meanwhile, pre-Trump when this whole ridiculous “red states are the real welfare states” canard started, people in blue states with high income tax got to write off tens of thousands in mortgage interest and state taxes, but that doesn’t “count” to globocap progtards, despite them always claiming tax cuts are spending.
The only major red state welfare is the farm subsidies. I’m guessing they’re using the same false math as the lie that “women only make 76 cents on the dollar to men” where they just use the total values and divide by population, without any disaggregation. The real number is about 96 cents on the dollar, but women tend to negotiate LESS aggressively over starting salary and then raises compund over time, widening the gap.
I suspect they did "per capita subsidies" but the farm states skewed everything - and that was *corporate* welfare. Throw in regulatory capture and state directed censorship - and the math changes - but it's difficult to pin down a number for those.
About the farm subsidies that are corporate welfare: The likely beneficiaries aren't the corporate employees on the farm or anyone else in the farm lands. The money goes to corporate headquarters, which are often far, far away from any actual farming.
So those claiming that red states are subsidized are counting the farm subsidies as going to the red states, but that money is channeled to corporations, probably in big blue cities in blue states.
"Borders are bad, m'kay?"
biometrics are next, make no mistake.
"biometrics are next, make no mistake."
So what?
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"Say Goodbye to Permissionless Travel"
I said goodbye to that in March 2020 because I knew it would never fully return, if we even truly had it in the first place.
How many COVID related travel restrictions have remained in place?
20 countries have COVID travel restrictions in place.
How many apply to you?
Never change, shithead.
What else does your mom say to you at night?
What does your daughter say to you when she wakes up next to you in the morning?
“Oh, I think I’m gonna be sick”
He doesn’t have a daughter. No human would mate with him. Not willingly. And he’s too much of a pussy to successfully rape anyone. And his severe alcoholism likely or events him from even getting it up.
You didn't pull out again Pa.
sorry bro but you lose, your retort is clearly too derivative of your opponent's last zinger.
"I said goodbye to that in March 2020"
Didn't it end with the Republitards created no fly lists, and forcing travelers to take off their shoes for government inspection?
Free travel ended in the mid-to-late 1910s, when European countries decided they should go to war with each other (again!), and this time around thought it would be a good idea to keep track of the foreigners, worrying that maybe some of them came from enemy countries.
That's how passports have started, and they've been with us ever since!
Oh well. I had no intention of traveling to the EU anyway.
For the record, this was the norm prior to WW2.
Providing biometric data was the norm before WW2? Please tell me more!
So were periodic massive wars. Sometimes change is good.
Europe will return to its old ways soon enough.
Pretty much. The EU has given rise to new nationalism, which will result in the same issues they had a 100 years ago, and a hundred years before that, etc. Charlemagne's vision of a unified Germany didn't stop the various states of the subsequent Holy Roman Empire from periodically going to war against each other. The EU is bound to fail in the same way. Trying to make what the Hungarians or Dutch do what the Germans and French want (and let's face it, the EU is Franco-German dominated) is not a long term measure. Fuck, even the French people are getting tired of the EU, and they're government dominates it with the Germans.
You sound like an expert.
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And prior to WW1 nobody even needed a passport.
Indeed. For all this talk about "the US started it!" this has been set in motion over 100 years ago.
Maybe we should revisit needing a passport for travel at all.
I’m cool with it if it keeps out the commies and the wackos from the Muslim majority countries. Of course we need to get rid of our home for own Marxists too.
sir your commie boogieman is at least 3 decades out of date.
Well, not REAL communism, amirite?
Have you noticed that Europe sent their intellectual dregs along with criminals and genetic defectives to America.
The only thing keeping America's IQ’s over 60 is Immigration.
These two sentences contradict each other. You are easily the dumbest poster here.
Permission? Many Americans will need a partial lobotomy and/or serious drugs to visit Europe, whether for touring the new African and Middle East downtowns, the socialist societies, or the green catastrophism hair-shirt public displays.
Or they could just visit Minneapolis.
Or Portland. Or Seattle. Or San Francisco. Or Chicago. Or Baltimore.
uh oh somebody's never actually been to europe and is scared of anything different than 2nd tier city America
Fear is the lever politicians use to gain control over the people. They push the fear buttons and the people queue up to give away not only their own rights but also mine. I have risked my life to defend the rights of all of my fellow citizens and would again, even the ones who don’t deserve it, but there are very few Americans I would risk my life to defend any more and quite a few I would risk fighting against - to the death if necessary - in a battle to regain my rights and restore limited government.
I hear that. It feels like the ten years I spent defending this country and it's Constitution was mostly wasted anymore. Especially when the younger generation thinks free speech is fascism. Yeah that's what the failed, vegetarian artist from Austria was known for, unbridled free speech. It wasn't like his favorite henchman literally controlled anything and everything printed or said on the radio or in film. No, it was all unbridled free speech.
Oh and the first thing our founding fathers thought about when fighting for liberty was protecting the rights of unelected bureaucrats to decide what we can or can't buy, say or not say in public etc. That's exactly what Henry meant by 'give me liberty or give me death'.
Oh and Madison et al totally meant for career bureaucrats to be the true checks and balances, not the three co-equal branches of the government. It was entirely the career bureaucrats of the executive branch, who they saw as not being answerable to the head of the executive branch, the president, that they felt was the true checks and balances. Says so in the Constitution (I'm sure it's in there somewhere).
Right after the pandemic and foreign influence exceptions to the Bill of Rights.
No one was locked down or put in jail for not wearing a mask.
We have always been at war with Eastasia.
Even Reason had an article proving you wrong:
https://reason.com/2022/10/18/a-north-carolina-man-was-jailed-for-refusing-to-wear-a-mask-in-court/#:~:text=A%20North%20Carolina%20man%20was%20jailed%20for%2024%20hours%20for,to%20report%20for%20jury%20duty.
https://www.wkbn.com/news/local-news/judge-sentences-youngstown-officer-to-jail-over-mask-refusal/
Well, I hope Europe doesn’t expect us to save them from the next power mad tyrant who tries to take over, like we did in the 1940s. Oh, wait…
At least Europe is even saying Trudeau's war on Christian ministers is going to far. I mean when Brussel says your attacks against Christians is a bit much, you know you've pushed it to far. Except I doubt that will stop Trudeau. Thank God we aren't a parliamentary government.
A driver's license and car registration are both permissions to travel imposed on us.
Don't worry Democrats have internal passports on the agenda. You will need to have one to visit and also permission to move, and you also will need to register with the police when you visit or move in your new area. Russia has them since the Tsars.
I see the next plandemic/scamdemic as the excuse and Governor Hair of California to be the first to implement, I mean to many taxpayers and businesses are fleeing his state, what a great way to stop that. Then he can again claim California is the most democratic state in Union by locking people in!
More likely it will be an excuse to cleanse the left and eliminate the democrat party from existence.
Won't someone please think of the bureaucrats.
As I remember, the last time we entered Europe in significant numbers, we were begged to.
The Europeans can fly to Mexico, identify as south or Central Americans and walk into the US! They will get some traveling money and a free phone as well!
And a free trip to NYC or Martha's Vineyard.
This was basically "fuck around and find out" and the USA found out. We required EU/British to do this, so now they're requiring us.
If this were tit-for-tat it would have happened years ago. This is a cash grab as global economies are in flux. Aussies, Brits and Canadians will are also impacted by the change. This is not a targeting US citizens.
The Western golden age is over! There should be frictionless movement between US, Canada and EU, not just Shengen Area. We are one Western Culture. So many ridiculous comments about EU being a socialist hellscape mostly by people who have never visited. Same with so called CANZUK. Even Japan/S Korea.
9/11 was 20+ years ago. US started this, passports even for Canada! And a Cuba visit shouldn't ban visits, either. People have family and our visits help open Cuba.
The West is getting too Soviet. Conservative think tanks that Brexit would mean free US/UK movement. We can fight terrorism other ways. During The Troubles the UK-Irish border stayed open & UK still fought IRA. US-EU are disappointing.
There has never been "frictionless movement" in the West; the very idea of "one Western culture" is progressive b.s.
And the EU is a socialist/fascist hellscape; it is also in rapid economic, social, and demographic decline; take it from someone who has lived there for many years.
If the US wants to preserve any kind of liberty, it needs to restrict its interactions with the EU before the inevitable self-destruction of the EU and all the disastrous consequences that will bring. We don't want to be dragged down by them.
You haven't been able to enter other nations without permission for as long as there have been nation states.
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One of my friends wanted to make a trip to Sweden via Denmark. He didn't realize Denmark required a passport that covered six months beyond his trip. (This isn't uncommon-- check requirements for any country you want to visit.)
He needed to renew his passport relatively quickly. He paid 1K to make it happen. It didn't work.
He never made it out of the US.
As the article says, we've been doing the same to them for a very long time.
If we want to change this the best place to start is right here at home.
Agree.
The restrictions the US places on Europeans makes us no safer. They are easy to circumvent. They serve no purpose.
The only nice thing I can say about the Reason comment section is that Reason is the only place that has an "anything goes" policy.
The bad thing is that the comments section is a cesspool of xenophobic Trumpers needing an outlet.
Perhaps, but there are plenty of Statist Slaver bigots to counter the xenophobic Trumpers, too, to balance things out. In my experience, though, they are typically more nasty than the xenophobic Trumpers.
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