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Censorship

Journalists Outraged That a Judge Would Dare Limit Biden's Censorship Powers

Unfortunately, there is reason to doubt that the judge's decision will meaningfully constrain the feds.

Robby Soave | 7.5.2023 5:40 PM

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The federal government's vast and disconcerting campaign to curb politically disfavored speech on social media has finally encountered a setback. On Tuesday, District Court Judge Terry Doughty ruled against the Biden administration in a pivotal free speech case brought by Republican attorneys general on behalf of individuals punished by social media companies at the behest of federal officials.

"The underlying case alleges that coordination between government officials and social media companies including Meta (the owner of Facebook and Instagram) and Twitter routinely silenced opinions that challenged the mainstream narrative about the COVID-19 pandemic and other hot-button issues," notes Reason's Eric Boehm.

That case is well-supported by an ocean of evidence, including the various disclosures within the Twitter Files—a series by independent journalists—and the Facebook Files—my own investigation into federal pressure on social media companies. The hundreds of messages sent by employees of the FBI, Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC), Department of Homeland Security (DHS), other agencies, and the White House to moderators at Twitter, Meta (the parent company of Facebook and Instagram), and Google make clear that the federal government pushed the platforms to suppress dissident viewpoints on a whole host of topics.

Doughty's ruling is a preliminary injunction that bars federal agencies from engaging in many—though not all—of these behaviors. The outcome has alarmed mainstream outlets like The Washington Post and The New York Times, whose reports included quotations from internet security "experts" fretting about the federal government's diminished ability to police speech online. Guests on CNN and MSNBC took an even more apocalyptic tone: CNN legal analyst Elie Honig assailed the "aggressive, far-reaching" ruling, while NBC News reporter Ryan Reilly described a world free of federal pressure on social media platforms as one that "we wouldn't want to live in." Reilly also fundamentally under-appreciated the scope of the pressure campaign, telling MSNBC viewers that "It's not as though the FBI has been going in & saying, 'Hey, take down this post.'"

MSNBC's @ryanjreilly argues the FBI isn't policing social media enough: "It's not as though the FBI has been going in & saying, 'Hey, take down this post.' … The FBI's not very good at monitoring social media. Look what happened on Jan 6th. There are all of these warning signs" pic.twitter.com/S2iIkbUbe0

— Tom Elliott (@tomselliott) July 5, 2023

Contrary to Reilly's claim, the FBI has done precisely that. For instance, the FBI frequently flagged joke tweets about the 2020 election and asked moderators at Twitter to take them down. The White House itself did the very same thing. As Doughty pointed out in his ruling, White House Digital Strategy Director Rob Flaherty personally appealed to Twitter to remove an account that parodied Biden's granddaughter. "Please remove this account immediately," wrote Flaherty. Forty-five minutes later, Twitter complied.

If Doughty's decision prevents the federal employees from engaging in such heavy-handed muzzling, it would be a welcome relief. Unfortunately, there is reason to doubt that the decision will meaningfully constrain the feds. That's because Doughty drew up a list of actions that are "NOT prohibited by this preliminary injunction," and this list could reasonably be read to permit the very sort of behavior—jawboning—that has produced the censorship.

Doughty's terms, for instance, allow the federal government to notify social media companies about threats to national security, criminal efforts to suppress voting, foreign attempts to influence elections, and communications that intend "to detect, prevent, or mitigate malicious cyber activity." It's worth recalling that prior to COVID-19, many of the communications between the feds and the platforms concerned precisely these subjects: purported foreign influence, malicious activity, etc.

When national intelligence officials cautioned social media companies about New York Post's Hunter Biden laptop story, for instance, they cited the threat of foreign election interference. Efforts to purge social media of so-called Russian bots—which was, in actuality, a crackdown on legitimate speech, expressed by Americans—were conducted under the auspices of malicious activity prevention.

Will Duffield, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute, is similarly concerned that Doughty's ruling might not make enough of a difference.

The top half of the injunction reads like a "complete and total shutdown of government communication with social media platforms until courts figure out what's going on, but the bottom half includes exceptions wide enough to include many of the most controversial government communications with platforms," he says.

Duffield would like to see federal legislation that mandates disclosure, forcing government actors to be transparent about their communications with social media companies so that they can be held accountable—even sued—if their conduct crosses the line into censorship.

"It's good to see courts taking jawboning seriously, but this preliminary injunction illustrates how difficult it is to draw clear lines that prohibit government bullying without blocking merely informative speech," he says.

In the meantime, the Biden administration has not said whether it will appeal Doughty's ruling.

"We do disagree with the decision, but the DOJ will come up with their own options," said White House Press Secretary Karine Jean-Pierre.

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  2. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Reilly ... telling MSNBC viewers that "It's not as though the FBI has been going in & saying, 'Hey, take down this post.'"

    lucky for all only seven people saw him say this out loud.

    1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

      Now watch all the fuckwits dance on the head of a pin negotiating, arguing over what can be censored, what must be and what can’t be.

      Avoiding at all costs, for reasons of pure self interest, the one simple form of speech that is coercion, the source of all conflict in speech and must be criminalized, lying.

      1. Square = Circle   2 years ago

        Lying is what they think they're banning, nitwit.

        1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

          Then what are you complaining about fuckwit?

          Why do you want to lie, coerce people?

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            You realize everyone thinks you're a liar, right? Let's pretend for a second that you weren't lying, the fact still is that nobody believes you. If lying is made illegal, who do you think will go to jail? You, or everyone else?

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              He believes the unicorns will know who’s REALLY lying and rule accordingly, or something.

              1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

                Misek is an odious Nazi shitsack. He’s also unbalanced and delusional. So there isn’t much point trying to reason with him. Just slap him around and hopefully he goes back to Stormfront, or whatever nazi sewer he came from.

                1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                  If you proving that you’re a grovelling coward, which is all you’ve accomplished, constitutes “slapping me around” then keep it up. Hahaha

                  Doing the same thing while hoping for a different result simply demonstrates your insanity.

            2. Rob Misek   2 years ago

              Belief doesn’t define either truth or lies.

              Even fuckwits like you will realize that when your freedom is at stake when lying is criminalized.

              Then you’ll be begging for the truth being discerned with correctly applied logic and science.

              You just need the right motivation.

              1. Inquisitive Squirrel   2 years ago

                You write this statement: "Belief doesn’t define either truth or lies."

                And yet you still aren't able to see the elephant in the room when it comes to the concept of criminalizing lying.

                1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

                  I made that statement and don’t see an elephant in the room.

                  Can you spell it out for me?

                  Do you think truth or lies must be discerned with belief?

                  Or just that corrupt people might try to coerce people with beliefs that they pass off as truth?

                  Because science and logic have been developed to prevent exactly that and they do it very well.

                  1. Inquisitive Squirrel   2 years ago (edited)

                    My god, I can’t tell if you’re this ignorant or a troll. The problem with criminalizing lying is that if enough people believe something you say is a lie, it will be deemed a lie whether it is or not. Giving government, interest groups, and individuals power to declare someone lying and therefore a criminal is about as moronic as thinking the Holocaust was all a lie; which, funny enough, is the most ironic part of you wishing to criminalize lying.

                    1. Rob Misek   2 years ago (edited)

                      Do you also think that truth, reality is determined by a vote?

                      If the majority think there is no gravity, do we all just float away?

                    2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                      He's that ignorant.

                    3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                      "Do you also think that truth, reality is determined by a vote?
                      If the majority think there is no gravity, do we all just float away?"

                      I'm going to try to explain it to you, you fantastically retarded motherfucker.

                      1. Your dream comes true and the government bans "lying".

                      2. You're a vocal holocaust denier.

                      3. You think the government is lying about the holocaust.

                      4. The government says you're lying about the holocaust.

                      5. Who will the government imprison for lying? You? Or itself?

                    4. Rob Misek   2 years ago (edited)

                      Lying is obviously fundamental to your self identity Kol Nidre boy.

                      When it is criminalized you’re going to need a new belief system.

                      To prove that someone is lying their claim needs to be refuted. Proven false with truth.

                      The criteria for truth aka reality will need to be codified in law.

                      Any government that claims truth is determined by majority vote will be overthrown or you suckers will all be slaves of fascism.

                      You’re already grovelling, cowering to them.

                      They avoid criminalizing lying because they don’t want to be scrutinized by truth.

                      I want them, you and I to be scrutinized by truth the whole truth and nothing but the truth. Discerned by correctly applied logic and science.

                      Criminalize lying and overthrow any fascist government that emerges trying to falsely define truth.

                      Give them enough rope to hang themselves and you too for that matter.

      2. Ray_Cathode   2 years ago

        Criminalize lying? Who says what is a lie? The problem is the government is claiming the power to say what is or is not a lie, and governments have a strong tendency to term anything they don't like a lie. That is exactly what the Biden Whitehouse has been doing and this judge nailed them chapter and verse.

        1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

          The criminalization of lying will establish the criteria for what constitutes proof of truth.

          When lying is a crime you’ll just need to prove that what you claim is true.

          Imagine that. Lies to coerce others just won’t be rolling off your tongue anymore.

          Boo hoo. What a loss for you.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Wow.

            1. Rob Misek   2 years ago (edited)

              Yeah, proving what you claim is true and refuting what you deny, WOW.

              People aren’t motivated to do it currently when the crime of coercion is so much more lucrative and easy.

              As with every other crime in civilization, motivate the corrupt with law, criminalize lying as it already necessarily is with perjury and fraud.

          2. Bobster0   2 years ago

            Galileo found out about this when he lied about the Sun being the center of the solar system. The church "proved" he was a liar and locked him up in house arrest for the rest of his life.

            1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

              Yes, the corrupt play fast and loose with what constitutes proof of truth when the coercion of lying is so much more lucrative and easy.

              That doesn’t mean that truth can’t be reliably discerned but it does demonstrate the need to criminalize lying. The church was lying.

              What irrefutable evidence of logic or science did the church offer to refute Galileo?

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Mike and Boehm used the same "government free speech" narratives just this morning. Pretty telling.

    3. markm23   2 years ago

      You can't prove he's a liar. He might be utterly and completely incompetent, instead.

  3. Reverendcaptain   2 years ago

    I just keep hearing Reason talking heads repeatedly and smugly saying "if you don't like it, start your own social media company." Reason is so far behind the curve these days it's embarrassing.

    1. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

      And when the backbone provider, the certificate authority and the cloud hosing provider all hit the off switch because there are people in your user base that say stuff like "there are only two sexes", then it's:

      Start your own telecommunications and web hosting empire and security trifecta empire.

      1. MasterThief   2 years ago

        That's actually something I want to look into here. Reason has been pretty big on "private companies" rights any time someone from the right sphere gets blocked, banned, or otherwise punished. As an outlet with a supposed core of free speech principles they should have been loudly objecting to censorship, but should have gone absolutely insane about debanking and deplatforming from key services.
        I think we all remember ENB's ode to Mastodon the moment it looked like Elon would let the right speak more. In the one instance (I can think of) where the left loses influence they were quick to seek out and prop up an alternative to insulate their bubble. Has Reason similarly covered and supported efforts from those on the right to make their own things? Writers seem angry/annoyed by the Bud Lite and Target boycotts. Couldn't they have instead given space to something like "Conservative Dad's Ultra Right Beer?" How have they covered attempts like Gab, Parler, Truth Social, givesendgo, Rumble, PublicSq., or any other right wing response to left wing services and platforms punishing them?
        My memory says they have been dismissive and insulting towards the right building their own whatever. Just another example of how they are committed leftists (at least culturally.)

        1. Zipcreature   2 years ago (edited)

          Well articulated keen observation. Reason’s attitude seems to Murrow the MSM re: Cakes; you MUST bake that cake – yet the same people fill throatily call for deplatforming opposing views.
          To me, this flip-flop exposes the underlying ideological rot and weaponization by those wielding bansticks to enforce cultural Marxist hegemony.

    2. Chinny Chin Chin   2 years ago

      What is the "on the curve" libertarian's take about that smug saying?

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Is that like being on the spectrum?

        1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

          Or ‘on the square’?

          https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c1i-_VFB76o

    3. Nardz   2 years ago

      Reason is a progressive gaslighting op

      1. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

        It’s painful to watch the decline of a once fine publication. Was Nick always a sellout to the left? Or did he fall to the dark side late in life?

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          He's writing what Charles Koch tells him to write.

      2. Ray_Cathode   2 years ago

        Oh yeah. Just like the mainstream ARI Objectivists - all shills for the Democrats.

    4. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      They also cheered the deplatforming of companies like Parlor when they did try to start their own social media service.

    5. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Recent example?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Why recent? They and you ignored evidence for years. Defending it for years while ignoring evidence isn't a fucking virtue.

      2. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

        Example within the last five minutes?

  4. Eeyore   2 years ago

    MSNBC can suck a dick.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

      That's how Mika got her anchor post.

      1. Eeyore   2 years ago

        I suspect Reilly as well.

      2. Dillinger   2 years ago

        ^^ assumes Joe isn't built like a Ken doll.

        1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

          Her dad's name got her through the door. The rest she had to earn.

      3. JohnZ   2 years ago

        The entire cast of The View.
        I suspect even Madcow had to get down on her knees.

  5. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    I like to think of it as free speech being "upzoned".

  6. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

    All information should be approved by the authorities .
    It’s the true path to freedom.

    1. Unicorn Abattoir   2 years ago

      If only we had a Ministry of Truth, run by a singing crackadoodle.

      Even better than Jeff's trunk bear.

      1. Public Entelectual   2 years ago

        She deserves an Ambassadorial appointment. Kazakhstan or Mali, perhaps.

        1. Eeyore   2 years ago

          Mars

        2. Stuck in California   2 years ago

          Wouldn't work. She doesn't drive. You can't take a taxi cab to Timbuktu.

  7. sarcasmic   2 years ago

    Courts rely on the executive to enforce their decisions. So when they tell the executive “you can’t do that” it’s no surprise that they say “so what”.

    1. R Mac   2 years ago

      Poor sarc doesn’t know about US Marshals.

      1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

        Poor sarc hasn’t ever heard of president Eisenhower either.

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        He doesn't know a lot of shit and goes out of his way to make sure things stay that way.

        1. VULGAR MADMAN   2 years ago

          I guess that works for him.

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Dear Colt 45,

          I’d like to thank you for helping me avoid things like history, current events, and the drudgery of steady employment. Life is much simpler when your forty ounces of friendship is around.

          PS - have you yet considered making that 80-oz bottle? It would really help me out.

          - sarc

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Hey! Chumby came back for a visit.

  8. R Mac   2 years ago

    They’re not journalists Robbie, they’re propagandists for the regime.

    You’d gain some respect if you called a spade a spade.

    1. Ajsloss   2 years ago

      What if they identify as a diamond? Maybe Robbie doesn’t want to assume anyone’s suit, you bigot.

      1. Chumby   2 years ago

        I ♥️ my dog.
        I ♣️ my dog.
        I ♠️ my dog.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          You shouldn’t club your poor dog.

          1. Chumby   2 years ago

            Speaking of ♣️, was recently in Warsaw and visited a gentleman’s club called Pole Dancers.

            1. R Mac   2 years ago

              I met a girl at a club the other night & she told me she'd show me a good time.
              When we got outside, she ran a 40 yard dash in 4.8 seconds.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Well, she didn't lie.

          2. Ersatz   2 years ago (edited)

            if you do you may have to play the spade card

            i actually thought that was the intent of the progression

    2. ElvisIsReal   2 years ago

      That's what I did.
      --------
      Instead, the presstitutes all jumped on board with the censorship, and even got little pats on the head over email when they did the government’s bidding. They ran every narrative-furthering story they could (even when it made no sense), and spat terrible epithets at those who resisted the propaganda onslaught.

    3. Finrod   2 years ago

      As InstaPundit likes to call them, Democratic operatives with bylines.

      1. Nazi-Chipping Warlock   2 years ago

        Alemany, D-WAPO

  9. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

    "Judge Doughty’s decision goes too far ... the decision will be refined somewhat, because government has to have the right to have its own free speech, to push back when they see things on social media they think are dangerous.”

    This is as classic a non sequitur as, "All animals are equal, but some are more equal than others."

    Imagine anytime in the last 247 years someone arguing, "government has to have the right to have its own press, to push back when they see things in newspapers they think are dangerous." It is self-evident that a government authorized press is the opposite of a free press and should be just as self-evident that government authorized speech is the opposite of free speech.

    1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

      All of those who say that they wear Magic Underwear are Perfectly Infallible, butt SOME of them are MORE infallible than the rest of them!

    2. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      The State can, of course, take to social media to try to refute any point it wants. Or any media. The NYT and WaPo are more than happy to carry it's water. It simply has no right telling social media companies to take down or prevent ideas it doesn't want put out there.

  10. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

    I know! Let's re-erect Der TrumpfenFuhrer, after His Sadly Stolen Erections, and FIX this thing, once and for all! Ass a FINAL SOLUTION!

    https://www.npr.org/2020/05/27/863011399/trump-threatens-to-shut-down-social-media-after-twitter-adds-warning-on-his-twee

    Trump Threatens To Shut Down Social Media After Twitter Adds Warning To His Tweets

    1. Gozer the Gozarian   2 years ago (edited)

      It’s one thing to be loud and boisterous in the media and a completely different thing to actually carry out those threats.

      Trump is an unpredictable bag of wind. He does very little of what comes flying out of his pie hole.

      Biden lies to your face as he cuts your throat.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        Shillsy will screech about Trump’s words that he never acted on, but he’ll defend the Democrats in Michigan passing an actual law that makes it a felony to misgender a tranny. Because he’s a left wing fascist.

        1. SQRLSY One   2 years ago

          So we have no REAL complaints to make, till Der TrumpfenFuhrer actually DOES kill democracy, and institutes the Perpetual TrumptatorShit? Then HOW do we get democracy back? Go through wars and suffering for 12 years like under the NAZIs, or 70 years under the Russian commies? And in Russia, as we can see, real multi-party democracy even then didn't last long, after all that...

          Oh, I forgot... You don't give a shit, about ANYTHING other than POWER for YOUR Tribe!

  11. SRG   2 years ago (edited)

    The government – local, state or Federal – should not be telling private media companies what speech they should host. If FB wants to take down QAnon conspiracy theories or Truth Social wants to take down Trump-critical posts, they can do so on their own account. But not because the government tells them to.

    Governments are quite capable of publishing their own (mis)information.

    Let private social media companies tell users, “we filter mis/disinfo so you don’t have to” and use that as a selling point, not the gubmint.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Censorship is not a selling point.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        It is to leftists like gov’na shrike.

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          I'm not a leftist, you fuckwit. And you're an even bigger fuckwit for accepting DLAM's moronic reframing.

          Do you too think that not publishing incorrect news is censorship?

          1. R Mac   2 years ago

            Poor shrike doesn’t know what censorship means.

            1. SRG   2 years ago

              Still not shrike, fuckwit. Not publishing something because it isn't true isn't censorship in any normal sense of the term.

          2. JesseAz   2 years ago

            And who decides what is and isn't correct shrike. Soros?

            1. SRG   2 years ago

              A lying anti-Semitic cunt writes: And who decides what is and isn’t correct shrike. Soros?

              I'm still not shrike. Who decides what is and isn't correct is the media company that publishes the material - well, they decide for their own sites.

              But it seems to me you're in bed with the post-modernist movement as well as GWBush - appropriate as you're all fuckwits in one way or another - which is that truth is subjective or unknowable, and specifically, if it's in WaPo, it isn't true, if it's in One Reich News Network, it is - which can lead to problems if they're both reposting the same AP report, of course.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Gee, you know who else accuses us of being antisemitic when we criticize Soros? Oh yeah, that's Shrike.

                Sorry Guv'na Shrike, but Soros is an asshole.

      2. SRG   2 years ago (edited)

        Censorship isn’t a selling point. Accuracy or reliability is. If you don’t want your news sources to publish untrue stories, are you supporting censorship? Given your (usual crass and stupid) response to my post, that would appear to follow.

        Evidently you agree with my first paragraph, though are intellectually gutless else you would have said so - because then your circle jerk buddies here would have turned on you.

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          I’ll agree with your first paragraph shrike.

          What’s supposed to happen now?

          1. SRG   2 years ago (edited)

            You regain a little intellectual honesty. Not that you would value my rating anyway, though- symmetrically, I don’t care ????

        2. JesseAz   2 years ago

          See shtike, this is the rationalization you and your buddies use to censor others. You never state who or how correct information is determined. Government is not that entity. Soros is not that entity. Which is why actual libertarians fight for more speech, not less speech. Your entire setup for your rationalization sets up to have someone demand less information which is what your leftist buddies what, determined by government or linked corporations.

          1. SRG   2 years ago

            Still not shrike as you well know, you lying POS.

            No rationalisation is involved You have to accept two propositions: one, that truth is objective and knowable, and two, that some sources are more likely - not certain - to report it than others. As you don't, you're left firing off moronic little barbs, in a state of permanent ignorance. And it also makes debating you trivial, because you can never prove any statement about the real world and hence we can dismiss any argument of yours based on it.

            1. Truthfulness   2 years ago

              I have determined that you're not speaking the truth. Mind if I silence you?

    2. Iwanna Newname   2 years ago

      Since when is misinformation a crime? "I'm the real King of England". There. What crime have I committed that needs to be taken down?

  12. Earth-based Human Skeptic   2 years ago

    Robby, they are not "journalists" as in reporters who challenge official propaganda and vested powers. They are acolytes and holy warriors who seek to promote and defend the one true faith.

    But you knew that.

  13. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    The right thing to do is for Congress to pass a law forbidding Federal employees and contractors from interfering in social media moderation.

    The Republican-dominated House passed a bill do just that (H.R. 140) on 3/9/2023 and nothing has happened with the bill in the Senate.

    Why?

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

      Yeah. Laws are needed not following the constitution says the sea lion.

      Why? Because your team loves censorship retard. Where is the federal government empowered to take on a role of censorship. Everything you say is a defense of bad acts by the left.

      1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

        This passing a law thing is bullshit. There already is a law, actually it was the first addition to our national laws. It's like the gun laws. If we make owning a gun for the purpose of committing a crime doubly illegal, that will stop the criminals!

        If we make goverment doubly illegal that will stop the totalitarians!
        The truth is all of these people can be pulled up for perjury seeing as most of them took an oath to uphold and defend the constitution, but they will never face punishment

    2. R Mac   2 years ago

      Because your tribe wants the government to censor people.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Do you find it odd Mike will demand no laws to cut off a kids dick but then demands a law to ban censorship by the government?

        1. R Mac   2 years ago

          He’s a lefty, so no, not at all.

        2. Chumby   2 years ago

          Mike is here to carry the HO2 for the progressives.

          1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

            Just watch out for fire extinguishers, Mike.

            1. SRG   2 years ago

              Four knaves!

              1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

                And three asses.

                1. Outlaw Josey Wales   2 years ago

                  And God Save the Queen, Man.

    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Three people with cement for brains interpreted that post as support for progressives. One might think that's Peak Stupid, but I'm sure they'll outdo themselves tomorrow.

      1. R Mac   2 years ago

        That’s not how I interpreted it. I interpreted it as Dee being disingenuous about not knowing why nothing has happened in the Senate.

        Guess we’re off your mute list for a second though.

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          I suspect Sarc meant "Peek" stupid rather than Peak Stupid.

        2. Elmer Fudd the CHUD   2 years ago

          I’m sure I’m on his list. He fears me. As he should, for foolishly threatening me.

          Sarc is a gutless drunken pussy.

    4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      "The right thing to do is for Congress to pass a law forbidding Federal employees and contractors from interfering in social media moderation."

      There's an obscure law about that already on the books called the First Amendment. You probably never heard of it.

      1. Terran   2 years ago

        How can he even trust what you say without a cite?

      2. JohnZ   2 years ago

        This current administration has completely ignored it. I would hazard a guess is they are totally in favor of canceling the First Amendment.
        But first they have to do something about that pesky Second Amendment.
        " If the freedom of speech is taken away, then dumb and silent we may be led, like sheep to the slaughter." George Washington.

    5. Brett Bellmore   2 years ago

      It's the usual left-right divide on this topic. Both sides are concerned about censorship; The right is concerned about being censored, and the left is concerned that the right isn't being censored enough.

  14. Chumby   2 years ago

    Methinks 1A is what limits Brandon the Groomer and a judge is just working to enforce that, but let’s focus on an individual and not an unalienable right.

  15. MWAocdoc   2 years ago (edited)

    Swallowing elephants and straining at gnats is what lawyers are trained to do. Weasel wording comes naturally to legislators and even more naturally to the lawyers with power – judges. The judge could have just come out and said clearly, “Threatening to ‘regulate’ social media platforms coupled with ‘suggestions’ about removing disallowed posts and accounts constitutes a violation of the First Amendment rights of all American people. All government officials must immediately cease ‘communications’ with social media platforms and stop all efforts to ‘regulate’ the internet.” But, of course, no judge will ever make such a clear and concise ruling.

  16. DallasCynic   2 years ago

    What needs to happen is legislation to allow those injured by this disgusting practice to sue not only the Federal government but the flunkies involved personally. The "moderators' who went along with this censorship also have to be held accountable. It has to of course, remove any mention of qualified immunity, prosecutorial immunity and statute of limitations. This would be just a beginning. it also needs to cover the local yokels: school boards, city governments who have terrorized their employees by threats and actual termination for unpopular political viewpoints and denied them the right to face their accuser who is most often hiding behind an email and is out of state.
    Yes, it does happen. It happened to a friend of mine at the hands of a game designer in the "Mile High" state of Colorado. My friend worked in Texas

    1. SRG   2 years ago

      That would be ex post facto law, hence unconstitutional per Art 1 S9.3. Or are you so ignorant of the constitution you didn't know that?

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        You mean like the law New York passed to allow Carroll to sue Trump long after expiration of prior law? The suit you cheered on? Weird selective support shrike.

        1. JohnZ   2 years ago

          That woman is obviously mentally ill.

      2. DallasCynic   2 years ago

        The government and the woke flunkies have no rights save what we allow them. That point needs to be driven home hard like a jackhammer.

  17. Liberty Lover   2 years ago

    Limit censorship powers? The President has no power to censor anyone on anything. Keep that in mind.

    1. markm23   2 years ago

      In real life, the President has the power to do _anything_ the courts, Congress, and the people don't stop him from doing. It's not the powers the Constitution grants him that matters, but what he can get away with.

      1. JohnZ   2 years ago

        It's long past time we, the People, stopped letting them get away with it.

  18. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

    Until/unless we start sending people to prison, don't expect the behavior to change.

  19. Zipcreature   2 years ago

    Never forget Tim pool on Joe Rogan, telling Vijaya Gadde to her lying face that she and Twitter were targeting conservatives which she slimy cornball lied lied lied on her smirking lying face. Many of us suspected it and this is more evidence and vindication. Fuck off all those who carried water for the MSM / DNC Big Tech government colluding jackboot lickers.

  20. JohnZ   2 years ago

    For the scribblers and mumblers of the MSM to criticize the judge for his decision is the ultimate in hubris, arrogance, hypocrisy and dishonesty. The worst part of it is they're totally unashamed of it. They're not embarrassed at all.
    The entire lot of so called journalists are nothing more than overpaid hacks and yes men. They're all hacks, the entire lot of them. Taylor Lorenze is a fine example of the sort of journalistic values being taught in some of our finest institutions of advanced learning, like Harvard or Yale. (sarc alert)
    So we should all reflect on the wise words of George Carlin when he stated," I have two rules I live by, number one, I don't believe anything the government says and number two, I don't take very seriously anything the mainstream media says."

  21. Robert   2 years ago

    I wish I was making $35,000 a month but I'll offer this comment anyway: the best, and probably the only, defense against a president who wants to censor is to not elect him.

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  22. Truthteller1   2 years ago

    You voted for the idiot, what's the problem Robby?

  23. Fetterman's Hump   2 years ago

    I am beginning to think that I can't trust my government to be honest with me. And on top of that, it is starting to look like I can't trust "the free press" either.

    Thank God I still have the HnR comments section to help me sort through the BS.

  24. Truthteller1   2 years ago

    If the nyt and wapo are bleating then you know you did the right thing.

  25. DRM   2 years ago

    "As the Americans learned so painfully in Earth's final century, free flow of information is the only safeguard against tyranny. The once-chained people whose leaders at last lose their grip on information flow will soon burst with freedom and vitality, but the free nation gradually constricting its grip on public discourse has begun its rapid slide into despotism. Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master."

    1. Fetterman's Hump   2 years ago

      "Beware of he who would deny you access to information, for in his heart he deems himself your master.”

      Never a truer sentence was written.

  26. Liberty Lover   2 years ago (edited)

    They had a young lady on NewsMax last night that made a total fool or herself insisting we would all be better of if we gave the government MORE censorship powers. She argued with the other NewsMax panelist and host and lost the argument badly sounding like a total fool, yet her last words as the segment ended where still that we would all be better off is the government had more censorship powers. What a brainwashed indoctrinated fool.

    I hope they have the young lady back when the opposition party she disagrees with comes to power to see if she is still as supportive of censorhship!

  27. Azathoth!!   2 years ago

    The outcome has alarmed mainstream outlets like The Washington Post and The New York Times, whose reports included quotations from internet security "experts" fretting about the federal government's diminished ability to police speech online.

    Diminished ability?

    They are prohibited by the Constitution from policing speech at all.

    How can anyone write anything about this without noting THAT right at the start?

    1. Rob Misek   2 years ago

      Do you really think that the fact that fraud and perjury are crimes is unconstitutional?

    2. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

      Probably another so-called journalist butthurt that their intent to censor is being questioned.

  28. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    There is a party in this nation who literally wants the USA destroyed.

    1. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago (edited)

      Correct – they are most accurately known as “Demunists.”

  29. Johnathan Galt   2 years ago

    Until we make violating our rights a capital crime and make it possible for individuals to file criminal charges directly (bypassing leftist AGs intent on protecting the "elites"), this will simply get worse.

    A few good hangings (after fair trials, of course) ought to restore people's memories about what the Constitution and SCOTUS have to say.

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