'I Did Everything Right and They Indicted Me,' Says Defiant Trump in Post-Arraignment Speech
Plus: The FTC takes on Microsoft, RIP Cormac McCarthy, and more...

Fresh off his arraignment on federal charges, former President Donald Trump denied any and all wrongdoing in what he described as the "boxes hoax." On Tuesday, Trump traveled from Miami—where he pleaded not guilty to 37 charges relating to the retention and storage of classified documents at his Mar-a-Lago home—to his golf club in Bedminster, New Jersey, and delivered a fiery defense of his actions.
"I did everything right and they indicted me," he said.
Trump alleged a double standard, tearing into former Secretary of State Hillary Clinton, former President Bill Clinton, former President George W. Bush, and President Joe Biden.
"Bill Clinton lost the nuclear codes," said Trump. "Joe Biden broke the law in many ways, we're finding out, and so far has not gotten indicted."
Trump repeatedly referenced the bribery allegations against Biden, which were reported to the FBI by a confidential source in 2020. That matter has recently come to the attention of congressional Republicans, who have said that a "highly credible" source told national law enforcement that Biden received a $5 million bribe from Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company that employed Hunter Biden. These allegations have not been confirmed.
The idea that Biden, Clinton, and other political figures have committed crimes and not faced justice is the central theme of Trump's public defense—and the most common line of attack being deployed by Trump's Republican allies—though this will matter very little from a legal standpoint: No judge or jury will weigh the purported Deep State's treatment of some other political figure when passing judgment on whether Trump broke the law.
During his remarks at Bedminster, Trump promised his supporters that he would return to the White House in 2024 and finally purge the federal government of the tyrants who have pursued them.
"We will obliterate the deep state, and we know who they are," said Trump. "They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom. They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you. They're not coming after me, they're coming after you—I'm just standing in their way."
It's a line from a popular pro-Trump meme that the former president evidently enjoys.
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump) December 19, 2019
The New York Times reports that special counsel Jack Smith is likely to quickly move forward with the case while Trump's attorneys will attempt to slow down the proceedings—even delaying them beyond the 2024 election, if possible:
The one unusual aspect of Mr. Trump's case will be its pacing.
Prosecutors working for the special counsel Jack Smith will most likely seek to drive the case forward quickly, all too aware that the prosecution is playing out as Mr. Trump pursues his presidential campaign. Mr. Trump's lawyers will surely try to slow the case down, perhaps with an eye toward dragging it out until after the 2024 election. That has been Mr. Trump's M.O. in nearly ever legal case he has faced over the years, and this one is not likely to be an exception.
Mr. Trump is expected to continue with a fairly steady stream of political events in the coming months, although the needs of the court calendar in the Florida case will in some ways dictate his actions. Unlike when Mr. Trump chose to opt out of personally appearing at the civil rape and defamation trial brought against him in New York by the writer E. Jean Carroll, he is unlikely to be permitted the same flexibility by the federal judge who hears his criminal case in Florida.
At this point, it remains unclear whether Mr. Trump will attend the first Republican primary debate, which is scheduled for Aug. 23 in Milwaukee.
Trump's co-defendant and personal aide, Walt Nauta, will enter his plea on June 27.
FREE MINDS
Famed American author Cormac McCarthy, whose work explored the darkest and loneliest edges of humanity, has died at 89. Though he had lived in relative seclusion—rarely granting interviews or participating in public life—the success of his novels, especially No Country for Old Men and The Road, which both received major film adaptations, had brought him considerable renown. According to the New York Times obituary of him:
Mr. McCarthy had in recent years been discussed as a potential winner of the Nobel Prize in Literature. The critic Harold Bloom named him one of the four major American novelists of his time, alongside Philip Roth, Don DeLillo and Thomas Pynchon, and called Mr. McCarthy's novel "Blood Meridian" (1985), a bad dream of a Western, "the greatest single book since Faulkner's 'As I Lay Dying.'"
Saul Bellow noted Mr. McCarthy's "absolutely overpowering use of language, his life-giving and death-dealing sentences."
Acclaim for Mr. McCarthy's work was not universal, however. Some critics found his novels portentous and self-consciously masculine. There are few notable women in his work.
Writing in The New Yorker in 2005, James Wood praised Mr. McCarthy as "a colossally gifted writer" and "one of the great hams of American prose, who delights in producing a histrionic rhetoric that brilliantly ventriloquizes the King James Bible, Shakespearean and Jacobean tragedy, Melville, Conrad, and Faulkner."
But Mr. Wood accused Mr. McCarthy of writing sentences that sometimes veered "close to nonsense," of "appearing to relish the violence he so lavishly records," and of being hostile to intellectual consciousness.
Themes of rugged individualism permeated his books; his characters often came to embrace the futility of trying to make sense of the larger picture or bringing any order to their world. There is undoubtedly a tend-your-own-garden ethos at work in the novels—one that tracks with McCormac's own reclusiveness. RIP.
FREE MARKETS
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is attempting to stop Microsoft from acquiring Activision Blizzard, the video game company. The Verge reports:
"Both a temporary restraining order and a preliminary injunction are necessary because Microsoft and Activision have represented that they may consummate the proposed acquisition at any time," reads the FTC's complaint.
The FTC filed its complaint just as Microsoft is progressing with its appeal against UK regulators' decision to block its proposed acquisition. The timing, just weeks before the July 18th deal deadline, shows the FTC is concerned Microsoft may be preparing to close its acquisition regardless of the block in the UK. European regulators gave the deal the go-ahead last month, so Microsoft could technically close without the UK and without an injunction in the US preventing the deal from closing.
"Press reports began circulating suggesting that defendants were seriously contemplating closing the proposed acquisition despite the pending administrative litigation and the CMA orders," says the FTC complaint. That, mixed with an ongoing CMA appeal, could have forced the FTC to try and attempt to secure an injunction.
James Czerniawski of Americans for Prosperity notes that FTC chair Lina Khan has no real argument for objecting to the acquisition.
As a gamer of well over 20 years (owning Sony consoles and using Windows on my gaming PC), this case was always a silly proposition for Lina Khan to chase. When she loses this case (and she will), this won't be a "loss that's awkshully a win", it's an L.https://t.co/6vdRwLBSOa
— James Czerniawski (@JamesCz19) June 13, 2023
The Washington Post describes the FTC's intervention in this manner as a "gamble," given recent legal setbacks for Khan's cases:
Earlier this year, a judge in Northern California ruled against the agency when it attempted to block Facebook parent company Meta from acquiring the virtual reality company Within. Apple recently scored a win as a federal appeals court ruled that Epic Games, the maker of Fortnite, failed to prove that Apple's App Store policies constituted anticompetitive conduct in violation of federal antitrust laws. And a federal appeals court in April upheld a judge's decision to dismiss a multistate antitrust lawsuit against Meta.
Microsoft president Brad Smith said he welcomed "the opportunity to present our case in federal court." The deal is critical to the company's ambitions in gaming, and it would give the Xbox maker control of popular titles including "Call of Duty."
"We believe accelerating the legal process in the U.S. will ultimately bring more choice and competition to the market," he said.
Read more here.
QUICK HITS
- Long shot GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is calling on all other presidential aspirants—both Republicans and Democrats—to pledge to pardon Donald Trump if he is convicted.
- Are Senate Republicans beginning to turn on the former president?
- MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things." CNN made a similar decision. Fox aired the remarks in full.
Maddow: We do not intend to carry Trump's remarks live. As we have said before in these circumstances, there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things. pic.twitter.com/MVv5LgDzc9
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No judge or jury will weigh the purported Deep State's treatment of some other political figure when passing judgment on whether Trump broke the law.
Oh really?
Equal protection under the law doesn't matter to Robby or the rest of the writers at Reason.
Hey, principles don't apply when fighting evil.
That was the Ukraine article from earlier today.
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Does anyone think any of this would be happening if Trump wasn’t about to win the next election?
Biden and the shadow government are risking it all to stop Trump. Rigging elections, transparently abusing presidential power. Their actions have completely undermined our misplaced trust in our governance.
Kinda makes me want to see what Trump does when elected.
I know a couple liberals who have bought the "Trump is the end of Democracy" hoax. I kind of want him to win just to see their minds break.
So the guy who wants to outlaw lying wants Trump re-elected, and somehow trusted that Biden could have been capable of otherwise?
Pardon me while I laugh!
https://youtu.be/QTqG9clPWDU
And as always, Fuck Off, Nazi!
"And as always, Fuck Off, Nazi!"
This.
I expected nothing more from you.
When lying is criminalized those who are least corrupt will fare the best, as they should.
I think Trump will do better than Biden.
When you watched Inglorious Basterds, did you cheer When Col. Landa had those Jews killed in the prologue of the film, for lying to him?
Soooo...When lying is made a crime, it will only be just a tiny bit, a dab, a smidge, a scoche, eine kleine corrupt?
Your comedy is simply...
Delicious!
https://youtu.be/BhdNbRvPU-E
Fuck Off, Nazi!
Why should it? Reason exists to produce pro-corporate, pro-fascist propaganda.
That is what it is paid to do.
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Remember when Reason used to advocate for Jury Nullification and used to be against the Espionage Act and were against political attacks through the legal system?
The round tablers did all say that the espionage act should not be applied to Trump (or anyone) though no mention of jury nullification.
Yet they’ve had multiple articles defending the unequal execution of laws. Is it really a defense when you support that part of the issue? Do you believe democrats when they preface their attacks using the line everyone is assumed innocent? It is meaningless when they don’t speak out vociferously against it and then run defense for it as well.
That act is also 31 of the charges. A charge for each document.
Hold on, let me catch up to the goal posts here.
What fucking goal posts? I’m asking you if you think they are honest in their representation of the case.
If they were truly against the use of the Espionage Act here and knowing the other charges flow from that criminal act, would they be pushing defense of “this is different, ignoring precedent of other cases, etc.
It is a false defense for a veneer. Maybe you’re fine with that, but honest people are not.
It is equivalent of “I’m against raping people but she was wearing that skirt.” Do you think that is a defense against rape? Because that is what you’re projecting.
To be against something you can’t make excuses for that something being utilized. Which they are doing. Words are meaningless in that context when saying you’re against something but defending its execution of that something.
When qualifiers are added to hedge an argument you claim to hold it becomes meaningless.
But do go on.
The fucking goal posts are that Trump should not be charged under the espionage act. Full stop. That's what Reason staffers said. You are the one adding qualifiers.
If they were truly against the use of the Espionage Act here and knowing the other charges flow from that criminal act,
That is a poor assumption to base your argument on.
Except dumdum they didn’t FULL STOP as you just claimed. Did they? Why are you ignoring that? Is it intentional?
They continue to rationalize how these charges are different from others. How is that a FULL STOP? They wouldn't need to do that if that is what they believed.
Except dumdum they didn’t FULL STOP as you just claimed. Did they?
Yes, they did. And you don’t have to be a dick in every comment. It only weakens your already terribly biased arguments.
Maybe he's being a dick because you're being a dishonest cunt.
No, it's not just to me.
I don’t think Jesse moved the goal posts, I think y’all are just talking past each other.
Reason did not full stop after saying this. Sullum has an article about why this is different.
All of the charges stem from the Espionage Act.
Anytime someone says “I disagree but” is not a full stop.
A full stop would be just that. A stop. Yet the articles about it continue with virtually no repeated mention of the EA and its use here.
Just like with dems preaching their attacks with claims they believe in innocent until proven guilty even though they are all claiming guilt in the next breath.
It is meaningless gaslighting.
That is my entire argument.
DesigNate is right. We're arguing past each other. When I said full stop, I meant that was the end of my argument not Reason's. I can be overly technical-minded. So if I say "they said 'he shouldn't be charged under the EA,'" I literally mean they said the words "he shouldn't be charged under the EA" (or some paraphrase of that.)
There is speculation that the 2 billion given to Trump's daughter by the Saudi's was an advanced payment for documents to be stolen by Trumptdie Dumptie.
Classic Donkey move - accuse the other side of doing what they are already doing.
The other three people you circle jerk at Democratic Underground all sharing the same delusion only barely counts as "speculation" shreek.
Reason writers aren't allowed to have differing viewpoints? That each future writer must be forced uphold all of their past writer's ramblings? Since when? It's a news organization with lots of viewpoints. How and why does changing viewpoints between writers make this a problem for Reason?
You may have a problem with it, but clearly Reason does not.
No, and I don't think Pepperidge Farms does either.
Yes, that's absolutely true. A defense of "I shouldn't be charged because Hillary wasn't" is not a legal defense. This consideration is for the prosecutor/grand jury before bringing charges.
Not saying it isn't true or fair for the public to consider though.
They used a d.c. room for the grand jury. There was never an unbiased use of the system.
There was never an unbiased use of the system.
Yes, the bias is obvious.
Because who needs an equal application of the law when you can have banana republic political prosecutions and defenses, right comrade.
I'm not defending it, comrade, just acknowledging the de facto situation.
But would you work to change it for the future?
It depends on what you mean by work. I've pretty much given up on anything changing for the better in the government so I'm not going to do much besides vote and bitch online.
Equal application of the law is a different issue your legal defense.
While the bias is obvious, they did it too is a horrible defense strategy. It has never been a winner in court.
Are we in court or is this still public opinion phase? Bringing out the Clinton, Clinton, Berger and other relevant precedent court cases is the same but in an appropriate format.
I’m not even sure it will be a winner in the court of public opinion. Too many people are convinced it was different this time (see SRG and Mike).
But this is why Soave bringing it up is so silly. The government is CONSTANTLY prosecuting people for laws that libertarians typically find immoral and unjust. Whether or not a judge or jury will convict on the matter doesn't change whether or not the prosecution is immoral or unjust.
Imagine if Soave were talking about Drug laws. "Why are you people complaining about this being a victimless crime? No judge or jury will consider the immorality of drug prohibition when passing judgment on whether Trump broke the law."
For libertarians, what is the purpose of making that point? OF COURSE that is true, and it is one of the reasons the whole prosecution is WRONG.
Better stated than what I said above.
This is akin to prosecuting anyone (even Brian banks again, even Harvey Weinstein) for raping Wanetta Gibson.
Sure, what Gibson did in the past is beside the point in a motion to dismiss the rape charges.
A jury can and should consider what she did in the past.
And my comparison is spot on, for Department of Justice, thanks to giving the illusion of credibility to the Cunt's®™ (legally known as Hillary Rodham Clinton) Big Lie®™, has the credibility of Wanetta Gibson.
I see your point. Arguing, not that Hillary got away with it so I should too, but instead Hillary got away with it and I didn't because the justice department is biased/corrupt. Thank you. I stand corrected. This could be a legitimate defense.
I think this would require showing some fabrication of evidence by the prosecution to work though.
They already have that as NARA admitted during deposition that the Biden administration created a false predicate for NARA to return documents believed to be taken by Trump.
It's even worse than that, though, since Clit-None was never President and Trump was, makes the PRA only apply to Trump.
Trump *literally* had the authority to declassify documents, which The Cunt never did.
Yes, I realize these are not contiguous defenses.
Trump doesn't get to make the determination of what is and isn't considered illegal here. The prosecution team is the one who makes those assertions in the indictment.
Trump's team can argue whatever they want IN COURT with a jury present. So can the prosecution team. Whomever is the most effective at presenting their case WITH their evidence is the one to sway the jury. It's up to the jury to decide this matter, not Trump, not Trump's legal team and not the prosecution team.
Trump can try to sway public opinion on this matter, but public opinion has no bearing on what gets discussed in court.
Trump’s team can argue whatever they want IN COURT with a jury present. So can the prosecution team.
I don't think they can though. I'm not a legal expert, but one frustrating thing I observe in the justice system is that the presiding judge rules certain things cannot be argued or even mentioned. I think that would be the case if the defense brought up Hillary, it would be ruled irrelevant. That was my original point, although as Michael Egercito pointed out, this may be allowed under a defense of corruption of the prosecution a la the OJ defense.
One man's whataboutism is another man's legal precedent.
Indeed. You got that right!
The one unusual aspect? Surely you jest!
For some people, Banana Republic style jurisprudence is now usual.
Not prosecuting Trump would be the sign of a banana republic:
https://reason.com/volokh/2023/06/10/against-the-banana-republic-critique-of-indicting-trump/
And what do you call prosecuting Trump but not Clinton or Biden?
Teamwork?
DNC money well spent?
Whataboutism!!1!1!1!1!!
Biden for what exactly? Prosecute him based on a bunch of false accusations made by the Republicans?
Or, you know, the case that the DoJ just decided not to prosecute a couple months back of then-senator Joe Biden and then-VP Joe Biden stealing classified documents and storing them in an unlocked shed, shreek.
Ilya Somin? Really?
The banana republicans don’t think we’re a banana republic?
I’m shocked!
The pacing is designed to occur during an election year. Reason seems fine with this.
Bullshit - the trial could take place in short order. But Trump will want to drag it out as long as possible - so that his supporters like you will be even louder about the terrible unfairness of prosecuting Trump when he's running for office.
So, in other words, the smart way to do it.
The doj already set their requested trial schedule shrike. Why are all your arguments based from ignorance?
I'm still not shrike, you lying cunt.
The DOJ have a request as you just noted. Has Trump accepted their schedule? No? Well then, fuck off.
And what were the dates for the requested schedule shrike. See my first comment on what the intended pace is. When does the requested trial take place?
Work through it slowly shrike.
Working .. working... working. .... Oh. Who gives a shit? This is what happens when you lose at the bullshit games you play. I can hear the cackle of the Hildebeast from here.
Is this an admittance of SRG = Shrike?
"I’m still not shrike, you lying cunt."
You should take that as a compliment, steaming pile of shit.
Trump will only accept their schedule once he's exhausted all legal avenues at his disposal for attempting to change it. Once those avenues are all closed, only then will Trump be stuck with what's been arranged.
Not liking the Trump indictment does not make one a Trump supporter.
Not liking that Biden and Clinton get off scot-free while their political enemy gets charged does not make one a Trump supporter.
But you don't want to admit that Trump is getting railroaded because in your mind, not hating Trump means approving Trump.
You need to separate those things.
As I noted before, we are seeing the unraveling of justice in our country.
In any political system, there is always a tension, where those with power get more privileges than those out of power. The life of that political system depends completely on whether or not the majority of people believe that privilege is generally minimized or kept in check.
Populist revolts like the election of Trump happen when the people sense that the elites in power are not serving their interests. It is an attempt among the populace to re-assert their power in the political system.
Civil Wars happen when the elites stop pretending that their privilege is restrained by the political system, and essentially admit that the political system is the tool for their privilege. The obvious double standard for Trump is the beginning of these elites throwing off all pretense of fairness. They have given up trying to convince the populace that they care about compromise or working together. And instead they have signaled that they will use their power to destroy anyone who gets in their way.
Well said Overt.
The populist revolt by electing Trump in 2016 was a warning shot across the elites' bow. Instead of taking the warning to heart, they're trying to fight it with all their might, trampling on the system in the process. If it comes to civil war, they probably will be on the losing end.
You think there will be a "winning" side to a civil war in the US?
I bet you do.
Yes.
Now it might be whoever the Chinese or the British end up supporting, but there would definitely be a winner.
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Thanks for nicely summarizing US 21st century history.
This situation doesn't signal "just" a civil war, it signals the end of America's democracy and America's economy. If a large number of America's "ruling elite" refuse to be constrained by justice, law or any other societal constraint, then America is no longer a democracy bound by the United States Constitution. That's effectively when the Constitution's power ends and laws of the country entirely unravel. That also means democracy, voting and all other of what's defined by the Constitution is no longer in use.
Yes, that may begin a Civil War as a side effect, but only because the laws of the nation no longer exist. This change doesn't denote only a civil war, however. It also firmly sets America back to being a third world developing country.
What that means for the so-called ruling elite is that they may no longer BE the ruling elite once the Dollar plummets to near worthlessness. The Donald Trump wannabees of the world are actually in the process of literally bankrupting America. You can't actually be a ruling elite without the money to back up that position. Once America's economy is literally bankrupt, whatever money those elites had to support their "power" will be gone... that is unless they move their money into a currency from another nation and hope that that nation doesn't bankrupt along side America.
Reminder that last year Biden promised that he would take measures to make sure that Trump does not become the President again.
He's keeping his word.
From what I've read, Biden has one of the most severe cases of TDS out there. In January 2021, he even tried to have the Resolute Desk removed from the Oval Office because Trump had used it, but his staff talked him out of it.
From what I’ve read, Biden has one of the most severe cases of TDS out there.
Biden has one of the most severe cases of DS too.
That's what happens when elderly dementia patients are constantly gaslit. See also; Sqrlsy.
It appears Biden could choose among several desks that have been used in the White House and chose the Resolute Desk.
Can he? Would he remember which one is which?
What about the race car desk or the Wild West stage coach desk?
You're kidding right?
It is only proof of animus when a republican does it.
Can someone please decide if Biden is a nefarious mastermind able to manipulate all the branches of government simultaneously to wrongfully impugn a late night tv conman or if he's too old and retarded to tie his own shoelaces?
Biden is a prop. This isn't complicated. Being that Biden is a prop, what Biden does or does not do has little bearing on his individual capacities, and is correctly attributed to those controlling the prop.
If Biden is a prop, then who is the puppet master? Don't weasel out and say "The Deep State". Which specific person or persons are pulling the strings? Is it Jaime Harrison? The board of Comcast and/or Disney? Reptile people from the Hollow Earth? The Jooz?
Is it utterly impossible that no one is actually in control of the rolling dumpster fire that is our democracy and that some non-zero combination of vengeful politics and Trump's own recurrent bumbling incompetence and utter disregard for rules have brought us to this point?
It's the old Obama crew, now with more neocons!
Hell, it may even be Obama himself.
Obama is the head of the democrat party. Not Biden. So it’s certain Obama is pulling a lot of the strings.
"We will obliterate the deep state, and we know who they are," said Trump. "They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom. They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you. They're not coming after me, they're coming after you—I'm just standing in their way."
Looking forward to the Reason/Left Libertarian argument for re-electing FJB
You aren't likely to see such an argument from Reason.
idk they're 1-for-1 so far ... stats encourage likelihood
Cite?
this site is the cite. you can't have missed Why We Heart Brandon Day
Umm, you yourself are a daily contributor to the Reason site.
How could he miss an opportunity to mock moronic liars like you?
Other than the bombastic self-aggrandizing, is he wrong?
Other than the Trump era consumer reforms that they've already rolled back (like shower heads with a reasonable flow rate or dishwashers that actually clean dishes in a reasonable amount of time), They're trying to:
- Ban gas stoves
- Restrict air travel (at least for the plebes)
- Ban gas lawn equipment
- Mutilate kids
- Force generational 'Reparations'
- Restrict speech
- Encourage illegal immigration
- Restrict gun ownership
- Jail political dissidents
- Indoctrinate kids
- Spend the country into oblivion
Is who wrong? Whom exactly is your comment responding to?
See the quote in the post I was replying to.
Those are the things your party is doing. Care to respond?
You couldn't bother to look up in just this chat thread and see what I was talking about, then you want to try to gaslight us on a couple of points that you can never defend, and I notice that you left all of the rest of these standing:
– Ban gas stoves
– Restrict air travel (at least for the plebes)
– Ban gas lawn equipment
– Encourage illegal immigration
– Restrict gun ownership
– Jail political dissidents
– Indoctrinate kids
– Spend the country into oblivion
And, you did a shit job trying to deflect on the three you chose.
That’s a good partial list. But how about John Kerry saying that “we need to get militant with agriculture” to save the planet?
Go to war with our food supply? Everything about dems is fucking evil.
Nobody is trying to mutilate kids. There is no surgeon in the United States who will perform "gender-affirming" hysterectomy or penis surgery on a minor.
A minor can get breast surgery, but teenage girls have been able to get cosmetic surgery on their breasts forever and conservatives never cared until transgenderism became a culture war subject.
That’s a lie. Plenty of examples prove that is not true. And there are proposals go from your fellow travelers to reduce acceptable age for such surgeries at more health facilities.
You’ve been called out on this before. Yet you still try pull that shit here.
"Nobody is trying to mutilate kids."
"A minor can get breast surgery,"
Wow, you're dumb.
Hormone 'care' is a thing, and how can you actually defend removing the breasts of emotionally troubled young teens? That's despicable.
They aren't removing some fatty tissue, like a breast reduction, they are removing all of it. If they change their minds later as adults they can never breast feed their kids, if they haven't been chemically altered to the point that they can't have any.
It's mutilation and it's wrong.
That hospital in Boston needs all that funding for a new wing to house the surgeries you and they claim are not happening.
Remember that LGBTQ++2S IDKWTF whistleblower at the St. Louis Gender Clinic? I do:
https://nypost.com/2023/02/09/whistleblower-lifts-lid-on-st-louis-kids-gender-clinic/
Force generational ‘Reparations'
That's a bit exaggerated. Reparations just haven't happened. The closest California has gotten recently is committee discussions. The money just isn't there, so it's unlikely.
You’re fellow travelers want this and are trying to make it a reality. Someone isn’t really less of a rapist if their intended victim manages to fight them off.
It was on the list of 'Trying To', not on the previous list of 'happened'
Dumb.
Oh, we can't criticize what they state their goals are because they haven't managed it yet? Stupid as fuck. Come on.
Restrict speech
Where are all these attempts at speech restriction? Do you mean private social media sites making moderation decisions that conservatives don't like?
Bullshit, you fucking cunt liar. The government, under Biden’s handlers, directed all major social media sites to censor speech. Then there’s the censorship board the democrats attempted to create. And so much more.
Jesus Christ. Your actual take is that the left is not anti- speech? Say so and then back that shit up.
Now who's restricting speech, exactly? One only needs to look at Florida to see restriction of speech in action, and that's not coming from the Democrats... unless you're claiming that Biden is now somehow responsible for what Ron DeSantis is doing with his "Don't say gay" bill and book banning agenda.
There was never a 'Don't Say Gay' bill, and anyone who uses that framing is not arguing facts.
FL HB 1557
“3. Classroom instruction by school personnel or third parties on sexual orientation or gender identity may not occur in kindergarten through grade 3 or in a manner that is not age- appropriate or developmentally appropriate for students in accordance with state standards,”
Age-appropriate has always meant no discussion of sexual issues before about Jr High - 12-13 yrs old.
Preventing pedophiles like yourself from sexually abusing K-3 children and showing them hardcore pornography is neither a restriction on speech or book banning, shreek.
Jeff was just earlier trying to argue that showing little kids porn was NOT a violation of the NAP.
Famed American author Cormac McCarthy, whose work explored the darkest and loneliest edges of humanity, has died at 89.
If they're out to take your freedom, Kids, just learn a lesson from Cormac McCarthy's The Road: Use something better than a grocery cart for a SHTF Bug-Out Vehicle!
When it rains, it pours
Are you talking Climate Change?
Morton salt.
"Acclaim for Mr. McCarthy's work was not universal, however. Some critics found his novels portentous and self-consciously masculine. There are few notable women in his work."
That means he should get a medal for non-appropriation, right? But then his work should still be banned for promoting men.
I welcome the day they extend this to every other politician, from Biden on down, including all wokies. A glorious day that will be!
How did they know in advance what would be true or not?
Bingo!
The same way you know any politician is going to lie, when they open their mouth.
We're so lucky that they were able to pre-determine the untruth before it was spoken.
In related news, I suppose that they are going to stick to principles on this matter and refuse to air any future Biden administration press conferences, speeches, or official statements? KJP hardest hit.
CNN certainly looks like they're going to give you your wish and go off the air. Unfortunately MSLSD has Microsoft propping them up so they'll continue peddling lies to hundreds of people nationwide.
Why else create a trillion dollar company that underlies all consumer tech without a narrative to push?
This excuse is also why Reasok ignored government censorship under the guise of private companies.
Reason is now open with supporting corporate fascism. And listening to Charles Koch it is clear his foundation does too now. Full on post modernist reasoning to defend bad acts of government and government actors.
Didn't Maddow nearly cry when it turned out her Russia obsession was not true?
I know she did election night.
That night I felt a disturbance in the Force. It was as if 65,844,610 voices cried out in agony, and then saddened had their spirits silenced (except for the rage and the tantrums).
It’s good when wokies suffer.
Big things come to those who wait.
New bots
Learning from fortune cookies.
you will find true love on Flag Day.
Why is it scandalous that a man shows off his augmented chest on the white house lawn? Aren’t we supposed to be proud of that?
More scandalous should be the flag of conquest they hung from the Whitehouse, displacing the American flag
"The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is attempting to stop Microsoft from acquiring Activision Blizzard, the video game company."
Just because you started a new company with a goal of someday selling it to a bigger company, remember the words of Saint Barack: "You didn't build that!"
Also, commerce and profit are sinful.
Everything must always stay the way it is.
Funny part with these anti-competitive concerns is that XBox will still be a smaller publisher than Sony if this goes through.
Not to mention there are still other gaming companies like Nintendo out there.
MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things."
LOL
Maddow: Russians May Be Controlling Our Government
Yes, it's weird that she’s suddenly concerned with telling the truth when she never bothered before.
Let’s go back in time to 3/29/21
“No we know that the vaccines work well enough that the virus stops with every vaccinated person… The virus does not infect them…It cannot use a vaccinated person as a host to get more people.”
Well, I'm sure they issued a sincere and full-throated apology for that rare mistake and the responsible parties have been duly reprimanded.
If it got her three more viewers, she would.
So the test that said I had Covid after a vaccination and booster was wrong, and I didn’t need to take Paxlovid and still feel like shit for three weeks.
Wish I’d known.
Cmon, everyone knows the only reason trump is saying he did nothing wrong, is because he did nothing wrong
"Nothing wrong" is the new "perfect". Get used to it.
'MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things." CNN made a similar decision. Fox aired the remarks in full.'
Media concerned about truth? This can't be right.
They would go off the air
They are, that's why they cannot allow it to be aired.
No point in letting people make up their own minds, because they are stupid and weak. We need our betters to decide for us.
I mean, if they were smart, they wouldn't be watching Maddow.
I remember when Mika Brzezinski (don't care if that's spelled right) actually said this out loud on the air, referring to Elon Musk's Twitter buyout: "He's trying to control what people think, and that's our job!"
Er...
"CLAIM: A video shows MSNBC host Mika Brzezinski saying, “Elon is trying to control how people think. That is our job.”
AP’S ASSESSMENT: False. The video shows Brzezinski talking about then-President Donald Trump on a Feb. 22, 2017, episode of “Morning Joe.” She does not mention Tesla CEO Elon Musk.
THE FACTS: Following news on Thursday that Musk has offered to buy Twitter for more than $43 billion, users on the social media platform are sharing an old video from the MSNBC show, falsely claiming it shows Brzezinski talking about the Tesla CEO.
“‘Elon is trying to control how people think. That is our job,’” read one post that was retweeted more than 37,000 times over the weekend. Another with more than 22,000 retweets stated: “‘[Elon] could actually control what people think… that is our job.’” Musk himself responded to one popular post containing the claim, posting two laughing emojis.
While many sharing the clip were highlighting the “that is our job” remark, which Brzezinski did say, the quotes in the posts are inaccurate. Brzezinski never mentions Musk in the footage, referring only to a “he.” The full video of the Feb. 22, 2017, segment reveals the “he” being discussed is actually Trump. Musk, whose attempted Twitter takeover was still five years away at the time, never comes up in the conversation.
The full video shows Brzezinski and co-host Joe Scarborough discussing Trump’s administrative actions amid a poll that found a majority of voters were dissatisfied with how the federal government was working at the time.
Scarborough recounted that the then-president’s supporters had told him: “They go, ‘Yeah you guys are going crazy. He’s doing — what are you so surprised about? He’s doing exactly what he said he’s going to do.’”
Brzezinski responded: “Well and I think that the dangerous, y’know, edges here are that he’s trying to undermine the media, trying to make up his own facts. And it could be that while unemployment and the economy worsens, he could have undermined the messaging so much that he can actually control exactly what people think. And that is our job.”
Brzezinski’s comments attracted attention at the time, and in a tweet later that day, she claimed they were misinterpreted, saying: “Today I said it’s the media’s job to keep President Trump from making up his own facts, NOT that it’s our job to control what people think.”
Some social media users shared the old clip alongside separate comments Brzezinski did make last week about Musk’s offer. On Friday’s episode of “Morning Joe,” Business Insider columnist Linette Lopez joined to discuss a recent column that was critical of Musk’s own behavior on the platform. Brzezinski asked her: “Linette, are there any ways to stop him if he wants to buy Twitter? Are there any guardrails around something like this? Because this could be a very dangerous precedent.”"
Thanks for the clarification sarcasmic. It doesn't change the point that the media see themselves as the gatekeepers of what people should be permitted to think and were actually dumb enough to say so, but it's always nice when you can spend an extra hour or two at Politico.
I mean they get awards for spreading lies. So I find the defense to itself not be the truth.
How do you cover the news without quoting people who are likely saying untrue things? Especially for politics, this is an impossible standard.
They didn't say they wouldn't quote him; they said they wouldn't broadcast his live remarks.
There are often quotable things mixed in there when Trump speaks, like last time, when he re-slandered the same person who had recently won $5m from him for slandering her. She's going for $10m now.
Or this time, when he essentially admitted taking the documents without legal justification. Now all the government has to do is knock over his tenuous legal arguments, and it's all over. (Until Ron pardons him, anyway.)
No one wants Trump to shut up. They just don't want to give him the spotlight.
Thanks for that clarification, sarcasmic. We have to have the media there to selectively edit the quotations to make them mean the opposite of what the full context says. Just like the "Nazis are good people" meme you spent 7 years regurgitating.
I robbed a bank yesterday, and I gave the money back “without a hassle”.
Got off Scott free.
I assume you kept the money in your garage, and not a bathroom.
Right next to the corvette, so you know it was safe.
Just until the police showed up, then I returned it a few months later when it was convenient.
Was there a bear in your trunk?
Turns out, it escaped, and went to a beach in Florida. Nobody was harmed, so no liability on my part.
It was masked then?
Yes, but it was below his nose.
Let's cut to the chase: was it a black bear?
Fur color is the most important thing.
"I robbed a bank yesterday, and I gave the money back “without a hassle”.
Got off Scott free.
But what would happen if you burned the money - equivalent to "bleach bitting" 30,000 subpoenaed e-mails?
Should they still let you off Scott free?
"Maddow: We do not intend to carry Trump’s remarks live. As we have said before in these circumstances, there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things."
Wow.
"We're going to censor what you see because we disagree with it and have never broadcast untrue things ourselves. It's what's good for you little people."
This is how White Mikes and Sarcasmics are made.
They decided he was going to lie before he spoke.
How can any reasonable person, right or left, hear Maddow's statement and not realize the fix is in?
This is some crazy banana republic shit.
A reasonable person would conclude MSNBC is a poor source of news.
For “the fix” to be “in” MSNBC and CNN would have to have much more control over information than they have. Anyone who wants to watch or read about Trump’s remarks can easily access other news sources.
To claim “the fix is in” is to engage in the conservative victimhood narrative.
Nobody needs to read Pravda.
To claim “the fix is in” is to engage in the conservative victimhood narrative.
You claimed the same thing about the vaccines. You claimed the same about Russian collusion. Same about the laptop, Stormy Daniels, the Insurrection™, etc
I guess defending the leftist lies is easier than admitting you've been duped. Repeatedly. It has all been lies; yet you not only defend the lies, you embrace it.
You claimed the same thing about the vaccines. You claimed the same about Russian collusion. Same about the laptop, Stormy Daniels, the Insurrection™, etc
Actually, of all the supposed statements I have made that you listed, only the one about vaccines is true. Well, likely true: I don’t recall ever making a statement that anti-vax is tied to the conservative victimhood narrative, but it is the kind of thing I might have said.
It’s clear from your comment you have no clue what my thoughts are on Russiagate, Hunter Biden’s laptop, Stormy Daniels, or whether the January 6th riots were an “insurrection”. Instead, you just assume that I, an independent libertarian, am towing the Democratic Party lion, even though I have never voted for a Democrat in my life.
And what does any of this have to do with whether CNN and MSBNC have managed to capture control over information in this country? (They haven’t.)
Do your thoughts run orthogonal to your posts?
Has there ever been a Trump tweet, not to mention an entire Trump speech, in which he has not lied about something?
(No, "covfefe" doesn't count.)
Several. There just hasn't been one that you haven't misquoted and lied about. Like the "Nazis are good people" lie you spent 7 years shilling, sarcasmic.
And we know, without having actually seen or heard his remarks yet, that they will be untrue. Also they will have no public value and are of no general interest beyond mere questions of truth or falsity, either.
Best not to confuse the little people.
Lol, no, don't ignore them. Definitely record them.
In a broadcast, prior to this, they stated that they shouldn't have aired Trump's speech, at that time, because it was "just his campaign rhetoric", and they didn't want to assist him with letting their audience hear that.
Later they used the excuse that they were going to censor him, because it was going to be "untruths".
It was, as usual, leftist media lying about their intentions, and calling it protecting the rubes from "disinformation".
Acclaim for Mr. McCarthy's work was not universal, however. Some critics found his novels portentous and self-consciously masculine. There are few notable women in his work.
You either die a hero, or you live long enough to see yourself become problematic.
That’s why war movies are no good. Not enough chicks in them.
I'm not allowed to like Saving Private Ryan anymore because it probably fails the BECHDEL TEST. 🙁
Is that the one where two dykes tell us what is wrong with everything?
they stuck a couple of ladies in Fury so Brad Pitt wouldn't be lonely
Blood Meridian remains one of the books I've ever read.
A less generous man than I wold mock you B mercilessly for that typo.
Add an adjective. I would choose best. But the comment allows everyone to agree.
They hated Mickey Spillane too even though it had lots of notable women.
The idea that Biden, Clinton, and other political figures have committed crimes and not faced justice is the central theme of Trump's public defense...
If only they were subject to discovery.
For sound economic perspective go to https://honesteconomics.substack.com/
Still no.
The louder a man tells you he’s honest, the harder you should hold on to your wallet.
May I "re-truth" that remark?
You might as well. It would be in keeping with your habit of never realizing that you're the butt of the joke, sarcasmic.
MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things." CNN made a similar decision. Fox aired the remarks in full.
Yet Maddow, Al Sharpton, and Joe Scarborough continue to air. Weird...
What happened to the presumption of innocence until proven guilty?
The "But Trump!" Clause of the Constitution supersedes all.
They spent 7 years investigating a man for a crime instead of a crime for a criminal. Yet they all trot the presumption of innocence line put as if they believe it.
Meanwhile Reason continues to say why this is different for democrats despite the terms of the law showing no difference. Also ignoring the Biden family corruption.
The terms of the law do show different, though.
The President has sole discretion on classification matters. The Vice President has no such authority. The Secretary of State has no such authority. Nor does the Secretary of State have the authority to set up a secret email server in her basement to circumvent FOIA and other recordkeeping and public disclosure laws, so she can continue to operate her grift of a "foundation" while conducting U.S. foreign policy.
In the small print it says you can do those things if you give the stuff back “without a hassle”.
Or in Hillary's case, literally smash them with hammers.
To hear these people, if Brian Mitchell had given Elizabeth smart back to her family without a hassle on March 12, 2003, there would have been no harm, no foul, no prosecution!
I agree with you on those points. Just like they used FARA to go after Flynn but refuse to go after Hunter. Despite every incoming president cabinet interaction with foreign officials.
But the point is assuming the difference in powers between the president and other government officials, the acts are still the same. With twisted justifications like returning it when caught removes penalties under the law. That is not what the law states. So even from their base assumptions they are wrong.
Oh, its worse than that. In order to investigate that crime, they committed the very crime they accused Trump of committing.
The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is attempting to stop Microsoft from acquiring Activision Blizzard...
Blue Overwatch of Death.
FTC is the gators in this irl game of Pitfall ...
Long shot GOP presidential candidate Vivek Ramaswamy is calling on all other presidential aspirants—both Republicans and Democrats—to pledge to pardon Donald Trump if he is convicted.
After all, they're each going to be just as corrupt if their time comes, if not more so.
Are Senate Republicans beginning to turn on the former president?
At long last, is this what walls closing in looks like?
Maybe.
No it the never Trumper rinks that are still never trumpers
Do we now address Romney with the royal we?
"They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom. They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you. They're not coming after me, they're coming after you—I'm just standing in their way."
Oh that is rich. Fuck you, you signed the Cares Act, funding one of the greatest violation of liberty.
Poor eunuch
He either let them take our freedom or was powerless to stop it. I'd like to say it would have been worse with Hillary. But I suspect Democrat governors might have been a lot less evil if making Trump look bad wasn't part of their calculations.
Maybe. But if Hillary were in office, you'd have seen more push back from the Republican legislators, so maybe moot altogether.
All I know is he signed it, along with most Rs in Congress. His option was to veto or sign, he made his choice and should be held accountable for his actions.
Maybe. Though I suspect it was sort of like right after 911 when everyone was pretty much going to go along with whatever was put forward to supposedly deal with the crisis.
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If Hillary was in office, we would never have heard of covid.
That's plausible. I'm still a little unsure about the sequence of events when all the insanity started. Was the US really that much of a driver of what went on all around the world?
We woulda kinda noticed millions of people dying all over the world.
Tens of millions of people die all over the world every year...
IMO the entire COVID reaction would have been very different if not for the election year crusade to abolish Trump.
Which apparently spread around the world--even to places where there was no Trump to abolish!
(Sorry for reminding you that the rest of the world exists.)
Almost like the intelligence communities of the 5 eyes countries are all on the same team or something, sarcasmic. Remember before Trump was in office when you and the Reason writers who constitute your brain used to think that was a bad thing?
MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things."
...that they themselves didn't make up.
It’s their biased news channel.
We are now at the point where George Stephanopolous is so deep inside a bubble he is unaware of basic facts. He had a guest who talked about Biden having boxes full of classified material stored in his garage next to his Corvette, and he credulously was astonished that the guest would “make up” something so outlandish. Despite Biden himself addressing the issue. So “bias” in what is covered is a huge problem, and not a “Boaf Sidez” problem
George was at Epstein's party when he was released from prison.
Wut??? Why is the the first I am hearing about this? Surely FBI confidential sources are the epitome of credibility. They have been used to launch special counsel investigations and can be the one and only witness needed to impeach a President. I expect a 'walls are closing in' article from Sullum about this earth shattering revelation any second now.
They're obviously another Trump lie. Otherwise, Reason would have reported on them by now, right?
A confidential source deemed unreliable by the Trump administration's FBI.
It’s cute you think he had any control over the FBI.
The President has significant control over the all the executive branches in the fact that he appoints the cabinet and agency heads. These picks can influence the general direction of the agency. That is what are the agency's focus and priorities. They cannot override the law or generally established protocols. For example, the prohibition on indictments of a sitting precedents is not law but a generally observed practice. I would therefore assume that FBI agency protocols dictate what is and is not a reliable source of information. In this case, the source failed to meet the standards and no one including the Presidentially picked agency leader questioned that call.
I would suggest that rather than wanting to see information from source that is unreliable, Congress should instead question Wray and Barr as to why the information was not followed up. Where was the conclusion of unreliability derived from.
Like when the FBI lied to the FISA court to get a warrant to spy on Trump?
Yes, Congress did a great job vetting the ‘pee tape’ dossier. I have great faith in them.
And here I thought our tireless heroes in the FBI were utterly and completely independent and not political. How could it be "the Trump administration's" FBI, shreek?
...there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things.
They've found the price of lost credibility?
Maddow: We do not intend to carry Trump's remarks live. As we have said before in these circumstances, there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things
who fucking believes this nonsense from pravda?
Have you been to a college campus lately?
Reason writers
my b-i-l split-screens msnbc & cnn in his office all day
Government job?
The idea that Biden, Clinton, and other political figures have committed crimes and not faced justice is the central theme of Trump's public defense—and the most common line of attack being deployed by Trump's Republican allies—though this will matter very little from a legal standpoint: No judge or jury will weigh the purported Deep State's treatment of some other political figure when passing judgment on whether Trump broke the law.
We're heading into dark territory when a not-so-insignificant percentage of the population has no respect institutions like polls and courts unless they get the outcome they want.
Yes. Many citizens of banana Republicans understand institutions are corrupt. Is this news to you?
Part of your blind faith allegiance to institutions you've adopted due to TDS. See Covid, elections, censorship, etc. Institutions have proven themselves to be bad actors many times. But keep supporting it buddy.
Polls aren’t an institution retard.
I think he meant polls as in voting.
OuR ChERiShEd DeMoCRatIC InSTiTUtIoNs!!!!!!!
"We’re heading into dark territory when a not-so-insignificant percentage of the population has no respect institutions like polls and courts unless they get the outcome they want."
Tell me about it, remember that guy who wanted to assassinate Kavanagh?
CIA knew of Ukrainians plans to attack the NS pipeline 3 months before it happened.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/policy/energy-environment/cia-warned-ukraine-not-attack-nord-stream-last-year
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CIA reportedly warned Ukraine not to attack Nord Stream last year
by Breanne Deppisch, Energy and Environment Reporter
June 13, 2023 06:40 PM
The CIA warned Ukraine last year that it objected to any plan to attack the Nord Stream natural gas pipelines linking Russia and Germany, nearly three months before the lines were sabotaged, according to new reports from U.S., Dutch, and German news outlets.
The alleged plot was shared with the United States in a memo from the Dutch Military Intelligence and Security Service, or MIVD, which cited a source in Ukraine. It included information that the Ukrainian military had been planning to use divers from its military to attack the Nord Stream 1 pipeline in mid-June but that the plan had been canceled, according to the New York Times.
..
According to the New York Times, the similarities between Ukraine’s planned attack and the explosions that took place in September 2022 were so similar that American officials now believe the plans were delayed rather than canceled outright — and potentially carried out by a different group.
Considering the gear we are given Ukraine, I doubt they would have the ability to do that mission on their own.
So now the official narrative is that we knew that Ukraine was going to attack our ally (Germany) for THREE MONTHS, yet we did nothing about it -- and blamed the Russians when it happened.
How the fuck is that supposed to be a good look?
“yet, we did nothing about it”
Cite?
Well you see Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq., the pipeline was successfully attacked by Ukraine using American resources and intelligence. See, if we had done something about it, the pipeline would not have been successfully attacked by Ukraine using American resources and intelligence. Do you understand, or do we need to fetch the crayons?
Literally linked in the article from the first post.
Man you idiots have issues.
I bet last week you were convinced the US had done it. Biden promised!
You'd lose that bet just like you lost your kids in the divorce when your wife presented convincing evidence to the judge that you were a serial spousal and child abuser, sarcasmic. Besides, they could always pull your card and say "facts changed" right?
White House has to stop listening to shrike.
The White House
@WhiteHouse
Great news: Today’s inflation report shows annual inflation is now at the lowest level since March 2021, and less than half of what it was last June.
.
This is giving families real breathing room.
Char included showing how all the inflation occurred after Biden's election and it remains 4x greater than when he took office.
https://twitter.com/WhiteHouse/status/1668643333344837632
"We took something that wasn't a problem, turned it into a huge problem, and now it's still a problem but less so. Crack open the champagne!!!"
Why do all the special prosecutors hire assistants that have been reprimanded by the courts for misconduct and are big donors to democrats?
I can't think of the reason.
https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/all-things-trump/prosecutor-trump-indictment-was-once-reprimanded-secretly
Even if Jack Smith's individual integrity was above reproach, the Justice Department brand is worth less than cholera-infested runny shit. The Department, from its handling of the whole Russian Collusion®™ Big Lie®™, has the credibility of Wanetta Gibson.
Of course, Michael Tracey tweeted about Jack Smith.
https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1668818427539075075
J6 Committee investigators continue to get high paying cushy jobs for their work for the party.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/house/january-6-capitol-riot-committee-investigator-top-job
Maddow: We do not intend to carry Trump's remarks live. As we have said before in these circumstances, there is a cost to us as a news organization to knowingly broadcast untrue things.
...So I will be resigning effective immediately to comply, added Maddow.
And yet this is a network that has fawned over the Clintons since its inception.
"I did everything right and they indicted me," he said.
Any honest person who knows anything at all about the handling of classified material knows that statement is false.
Any honest person who knew anything about handling classified materials would know Obama. Pence, Clinton, etc all are guilty by the same metrics.
Why do you ignore this?
"[Whining] But those people *cooperated*!"
Do you understand the difference it makes when a potential criminal co-operates as opposed to obstructing? It would seem not.
The staggering blindness and ignorance of Trump supporters like you and JesseAZ is truly astonishing.
“It’s all cool when you give the stuff back”
Do you understand the difference between quoted and non-quoted comments?
Anyway, what is a potential criminal?
The obnoxiously arrogant piece of shit is not interested in anything which does not feed his raging case of TDS
"what is a potential criminal?"
Allow me to explain.
According to SRG, stealing a Lexus is only a potential crime. It only becomes an actual crime if the police ask you to return it to its owner, and you refuse.
The police are allowed to be selective in who they ask. If the police like you and don't tell you to give it back to its owner, you get to keep it in your garage for years and years, no matter what the owner says.
Thank you!
More like you work at a Lexus dealer and drive a car off the lot every day. Then when you retire you decide to keep the car. Dealership asks for it back and you say "Fuck you, I do what I want." Only then do they get the authorities involved.
Was it theft on day one of keeping it or year 30? I would argue it is theft for both. But youre prosecuting the day 1 instead of the 30 year. Why?
As you had permission to take the car, such a thing would typically be handled by civil litigation seeking damages or equitable relief.
Permission to take it, but not to keep it. That's theft.
So we can add "theft" to the wide variety of criminal statutes you literally don't comprehend, eh drunky? Since you admitted you don't understand the relevant law yesterday, why are you continuing to argue as if you do? Do you just enjoy the humiliation? Does it bring you back to watching the Mormon cop fuck your wife in front of you?
Biden never had permission to take any of the docs. And he kept them poorly secured for 10 years! . So, theft from day one.
The obnoxiously arrogant shit SRG seems insulted to be confused with turd; he should be proud.
He wasn’t charged with only obstruction shrike. How fucking dumb are you?
Also once again PRA is civil. No court decided the issue on the documents. There is no obstruction there retard.
Obstruction fully relied on the use of Espionage Act. You really are ignorant shrike.
He's not being tried on PRA charges, you ignorant fuckwit. The indictment - which evidently you haven't read - states the USC numbers under which he's charged. The PRA isn't one of them.
Typical D-K - think that your ignorance and someone else's knowledge are in fact your knowledge and someone else's ignorance. This is the second time IIRC you've confused the statutes he's being charged under. You lot really are wantonly ignorant.
Isn't it about time you posted again that JW v NARA means that Trump must be innocent?
And now we are back to your original argument. The espionage act. Nothing in that act says charges are forgiven for returning documents when found.
So what is your argument? All the other politicians also had NDI.
You just destroyed the argument from your own response lol.
Remember when Clinton's mendacious defenders insisted he was being impeached for getting a blowjob, when they knew quite well that he had committed perjury?
Trump's defenders are doing the same thing.
No they aren't.
Every comment here is around the unequal application of the law retard.
It amazes me how you mute people then make up straw arguments for those posts. And you demand honest argumentation? Lol.
Nothing says "rule of law" like ignoring equal protection.
Let me simplify it for you shrike so you can go and tuck tail.
Obstruction is one of the 38 charges. One. It depends on a valid investigation of the other charges. The espionage Act.
Stating trump is guilty of obstruction and thus makes it different ignores the other 37 charges, 31 of them being the EA. You are excusing the others of being not guilty because of the charge dependent on the primary charges. It is one of the dumbest defenses of criminality ever and you liberals are completely relying on it to justify political execution of the law despite the one charge you use to differentiate it being a secondary charge reliant on the primary charges.
The retardation of your ilk is hilarious.
Trump is guilty of obstructing injustice.
There's an expression "Never attribute to malice what can be explained by stupidity or incompetence." The opposite applies to JesseAz.
You realize the vast majority of people here recognize youre an idiot right? Youre also defending a retarded argument from shrike not based on actual law lol.
Drunky admitted yesterday that he doesn't know the specifics of the law in question.
Then why does he even have an opinion?
Of course, if the facts don't support your alleged "popularity", you can just lie about it. There's "president" for that...
You're down to white knighting for Tony and shreek the pedophile, sarcasmic. Maybe you want to take a lighter touch on popularity contests.
Do you realize that Biden waited until AFTER THE MIDTERMS to mention that he had files as well?
In what fucking world is that COOPERATING?
Cooperating with whom, exactly?
Biden's lawyers reported the initial discovery of sensitive documents to the NARA on November 2, 2022--six days before the midterms--and NARA took possession of the documents the next day. Before that point, there was no one to "cooperate" with, and afterwards, Biden fully cooperated with NARA and the FBI.
No, Biden didn't call a press conference about the discovery, but he could hardly have been seriously accused of "not cooperating" by anyone reasonably familiar with the English language.
In Trump's case, the "who" was the government officials desperately trying to get him to return absconded-with government property--and his "cooperation" with their legitimate requests was nothing less than Saddamesque...
Except that's a lie, sarcasmic. NARA covered up the discovery until after the mid terms to protect vulnerable Democrats and those documents had been in Biden's possession for the better part of a decade by that point.
Oh, and also Biden had no authority to take those documents in the first place while Trump had such authority as president. You're pretty bad at this, you should leave the thinking to the pedophile you white knight for.
They're not guilty of being Trump.
I said "honest person."
So, not you.
This.
*sigh* Maybe an honest person will respond.
To your own ignorance? You’ve already proven you know nothing about classification and its execution. Hint. Some people here have actually held clearances. You lied about a friend being denied it. You are not an expert.
Your assumptions on "muted" posts makes you look extra retarded by the way.
All you have to do is return the papers “without a hassle”, then it’s all good.
Dunno if that's true if your name is Donald Trump.
Oh well.
"Everyone who disagrees me even though I admitted fully yesterday that I do not understand the specifics of the law under which Trump is being charged is a dishonest Trump cultist."
You wouldn't know honesty if it presented you with a sworn affidavit and granted a restraining order to your "cunt" wife after you lied to the judge about your lengthy history of spousal and child abuse, drunky.
You self-admittedly do not know the relevant law, so thanks for the admission that you're dishonest as well as ignorant:
"Why this Bay Area think tank is the most controversial climate nonprofit you’ve never heard of"
[...]
"Tucked away in the heart of liberal Berkeley is one of the most controversial organizations in the environmental movement: the Breakthrough Institute, known for advocating for nuclear energy and a pugilistic approach to disagreement.
The think tank’s critics, who include prominent advocates and researchers, decry the group as advancing right-wing ideas and say its policy proposals would delay action on climate change. But if the Breakthrough Institute’s leaders are to be believed, they are reformers with a 21st century strategy for solving the planet’s problems..."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/climate/article/breakthrough-institute-berkeley-18109580.php
Sort of disturbing the monopoly...
As if the goals of the Greens include any affects on the physical planet.
*IF* climate change is an existential threat, nuclear is the only possible solution without simply de-populating the world.
That tells you all you need to know about those who oppose nuclear power.
Bingo.
Fun fact: Jerry Brown helped to sink nuclear power in California while his family had extensive investments in Indonesia oil and gas, a significant supplier to the west coast.
Meet the true aperiodic tile 'Spectre'.
(I'm sure the commentariat math geeks were already aware of this good news!)
I thought the Veritasium guy did a video with infinite non-repeating tiles a few years ago.
Edit: Ohhh, that's all with one shape. Cool.
Proof we are using alien technology.
Thank you!
No need to be a math geek to find that interesting.
This new shape may be used - “to design new shower curtains and soccer balls”
What a useless breakthru
extreme focus to see the sailboat.
Cool, didn’t see that one yet. The einstein one did seem a little like cheating because a shape and its mirror image was used.
It is funny how they keep saying "one in a million" in the article.
Non repeating?
The same shape, created from eight identical tiles is endlessly repeated there.
Is there some other meaning of 'non-repeating'?
Yes there is. It means there is no way you can move the tiling around in the plane (other than not shifting at all) that gives you the exact same pattern relative to a fixed point.
During his remarks at Bedminster, Trump promised his supporters
Isn't that where Fatass Donnie buried ex-wife Ivana near the driving range in an unmarked plot?
turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
He would have given her a burial at sea like Ted Kennedy did with Mary Jo Kopechne, but he couldn't get the permit, shreek.
Intriguing tidbit: Do you know what companies have astonishingly high ESG scores?
Tobacco companies. Dramatically higher than, say, Tesla.
Weird, given how ESG was supposed to make humanity better.
It feels good having cigar after a meal. Does that count?
Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar. And sometimes it is more.
"The Federal Trade Commission (FTC) is attempting to stop Microsoft from acquiring Activision Blizzard, the video game company.
[...]
James Czerniawski of Americans for Prosperity notes that FTC chair Lina Khan has no real argument for objecting to the acquisition."
Regulators need a reason to regulate?
She didn’t receive the thick envelope stuffed with cash yet.
So she'll find a "reason" soon...
Let's also keep in mind that the evidence of Biden taking bribes...FBI has had it for nearly half a decade and did not do anything.
Just as they tried to bury the Hunter laptop.
Hell, Comey came out about Hillary late in 2016 because an agent threatened to do so if he did not.
Evidence? You're so fucking naive.
Comer admitted they had no evidence. This shit is just more BENGAZI fake tears by the GOP.
Emails, Bank records, witnesses, informants.
Yeap. No evidence.
I am old enough to remember when it was considered a high crime or a high misdemeanor for a President to ask for an investigation of a possible political opponent!
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
The Ukraine accusation are all tied up with the like of Rudy Guiliani and Paul Manafort. Why doesn't Comer have these two guys testify before his committee? I would suggest that they have nothing, and they are trying to pass it off as something. They whine about the FBI but they could have Guiliani and Manafort lay it out for the committee. They recruited the sources, so have them tell the committee about the sources.
Stop samefagging your own posts, shreek, it's cringe.
Excellent comment-of-substance. As usual. (Well, as usual as anyone can tell, given your constant mask-swapping.)
I'm fairly new here, but I think I recognize your style.
It's Tulpa, right? (One of the self-outed KP-downloaders, lol.)
You've already outed this sock several times sarcasmic, you don't need to further emphasize it by posting a word for word copy of your sarcasmic copypasta and grammatical and rhetorical tics. You're worse at socking than shreek is, and that's saying something.
White knighting for the kiddie porn peddler is still a great look regardless of which sock you use, by the way. Keep it up.
No obstruction for destroying subpoenad server either.
The plan to bring manufacturing back to the US is working
...
In the wake of the pandemic, US president Joe Biden focused on making it possible for the US to produce more of what it needs to protect its economy and national security. As a result, he delivered on one of former president Donald Trump’s campaign promises: to bring manufacturing back to the US.
https://qz.com/the-plan-to-bring-manufacturing-back-to-the-us-is-worki-1850514115
+800,000 manufacturing jobs since Fatass slithered away.
And hundreds of factories are set for completion in two years.
Don't forget that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Meanwhile principled Trump supporters praise Biden for continuing and expanding on Trump's policies...
Principled? Haaa ha ha ha ha!
Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.
You're an obedient little Trump minion, Sevo. Just like some rapper's shit-fly attached to his orbit all day.
Before I muted him I'd read Sevo's posts in an Abe Simpson voice.
Fuck off and die, lying pile of lefty shit.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.
"I used to be with 'it', but then they changed what 'it' was. Now what I'm with isn't 'it' anymore and what's 'it' seems weird and scary. It'll happen to you!"
Abe Simpson / Sevo
It's hilarious you calling anyone else old and out of touch considering you've yet to make a cultural reference newer than 2004 and still think Jon Stewart and Mean Girls are contemporary and hilarious.
Meanwhile, sarcasmic the principled libertarian has spent 16 hours a day, every day for the last 3 years railing against Biden's economic policies because they are identical to Trump's, just like he spent 16 hours a day, every day for 4 years railing against Trump's economic policies. Because drunky is all about principles.
How's the rig count, shreek?
This is a direct result of the corporate tax cuts of Trump. Biden has done nothing to make the US a better place to do business. The pandemic forc d companies to re-think their supply chains, and the Trump tax cut made that an easy decision.
"We will obliterate the deep state, and we know who they are," said Trump. "They want to take away my freedom because I will never let them take away your freedom. They want to silence me because I will never let them silence you. They're not coming after me, they're coming after you—I'm just standing in their way."
https://politicaldictionary.com/words/demagogue/
Sound like anyone we might know?
Every democrat.
Especially the top dog.
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/biden-attacks-trump-maga-republicans-threat-american-democracy/story?id=89121094
I'm not sure that's actually a defence.
You're not sure of a lot of things, sarcasmic. You admitted to not knowing the specifics of the law upon which the Trump prosecution rests despite spending hundreds of posts relentlessly defending it for 2 straight days.
Do they have bears in trunks?
In political use, a demagogue is typically a charismatic and populist figure who exploits the fears and insecurities of the masses in order to gain power and advance their own political agenda.
Yeah, some Jr. High kid just discovered what politics does, has zero sense of history, and wrote a thinkpiece acting like everything he’s witnessing in politics today is UnpREcedENteD!
But none of that fear exploitation can be attributed to the politicians that pushed COVID lies and Climate Change lies or the-earth-is-coming-to-an-end-in-12-years lies, or basket of deplorables or check-your-privilege or they’re-literally-genociding-our-people or literally anything we’ve heard in politics over the last 50 years, let alone the last 6.
Trump is not the only demagogue on the planet. But he is the complete package.
Most other politicians use demagoguery as one technique among many in order to win votes. With Trump, that is his only thing. He doesn't make logical arguments or principled arguments about anything. Everything he does is about stoking fear and rage and emotion and victimhood.
Would you agree that demagoguery, as a technique, is at a minimum morally suspect, and usually wrong? Would you agree that Trump engages in it far more often than most?
That's pretty much true. His entire political message at this point is "WHATABOUT!?!?!" and his followers lap it up like cats at a bowl of milk.
I swear you get more retarded every time you jump in to defend jeff.
How is trump worse than Biden, Hillary, or others. Do explain.
That’s just a Whatabout!!!1!1!1!
Would you agree that demagoguery, as a technique, is at a minimum morally suspect, and usually wrong? Would you agree that Trump engages in it far more often than most?
Yes I would, which is why I voted for Trump in 2020. I was sick to death of four years of literally-worse-than-hitler demagoguery from our elite news media and government officials.
Chemjeff is not a person, it's cancer
I believe you've said you live in Washington State, which means your state's electoral votes were going to go to Biden no matter how you voted.
Did you consider voting Libertarian or not voting at all?
Is it real libertarianism or bake the cake and be anti racist libertarianism?
Charles Koch showed he was the latter with his ignorance and post modernist defenses of the culture wars vs Dave Smith. His refusal to admit to objective reality. Basically dems in sheep's clothing like you and Jeff.
Great idea.
It was an either/or question Hank.
I'm from Washington and normally vote L as a protest. In 2020 I voted straight red because it was the loudest protest I could make.
So you voted based on emotion and anger, rather than reason and principle.
Both you and Diane/Paul are proving that demagoguery works.
So just like the Reason staff members who declared they were voting for Biden purely to spite Trump that you defend relentlessly, cytotoxic? Would you say that your book-length emotional outbursts several times per week regarding teachers being restrained from showing cartoon depictions of children performing oral sex on adults was an example of emotion and anger as a response to demagoguery, or is it totally different when you do it?
Do you HONESTLY think Biden voters did so for any reason other than emotion or anger? Seriously?
No, he doesn’t.
So, your saying you think ElvisIsReal is tantamount to a Biden voter?
I’m not sure how the calculus works so that voting for one of the two major, ensconced parties, for the lesser of two evils is a louder protest than not voting or voting Libertarian.
What you are claiming is that voting Republican would catch someone important’s attention or influence those in power somehow. In what way? What mechanism? Why would they care that you voted Republican?
People who conduct statistical analysis of electoral results are not quite as a innumerate and stupid as you are, Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq. They might for example say "Gee the guy we spent 4 years demonizing every day got more votes this time than he did 4 years ago, maybe that's a signal of voter preferences." and modify their strategy accordingly.
The ULTRAMAGA extremists?
Die, tumor
Um... the ENTIRE looter Kleptocracy? Both halves are hate mobs out to "git" each other if it means killing the rest of us to git 'er done. Lookit the sockpoops the mystics send here. Every dupe shrieks "Biden baaad" rather than "Orange Hitler goood."
Hope and change.
Raw emotional appeal absent policy.
Republicans, who have said that a “highly credible” source told national law enforcement that Biden received a $5 million bribe from Burisma Holdings, the Ukrainian gas company that employed Hunter Biden. These allegations have not been confirmed.
And btw, after denying those documents which detail that $5 million bribe existed, the FBI now sheepishly admits those documents do exist, but we’re not allowed to see them.
They were shown to Congressional members. We don't get to see a lot of things.
Libertarians for denial of the existence of documents that do in fact exist! That about cover it, shreek?
“I did everything right and they indicted me,” he said.
Well, in HIS mind, he's correct. Because, in HIS mind, those documents belong to HIM. They are not government property, they are HIS property. So he did not steal government property, in fact, it was the FBI that stole HIS property when they raided his house!
Trump as president got to do whatever he wanted to do, including take a bunch of stuff home with him. How can we mere mortals not understand this? And people who disagree with this are just people who hate Trump and Republicans and therefore the USA itself.
Donnie is so full of shit on every claim that falls from his greasy lips.
No one ever challenges him.
"By what MEASURE was the economy "the greatest ever" while you were President? Because it wasn't GDP. It wasn't jobs. You were the worst on both measures since the Depression.
Fucking doormat press.
I could cut that fucking sleazeball into shreds.
turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying. turd lies. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.
He was impeached twice on charges even more specious than the ones he's facing now, shreek. You had more hate porn than you could read on a daily basis for the last 7 years.
You couldn't bust a grape in a fruit fight you pathetic little faggot. That's why you rape helpless, defenseless children, because you're a cowardly piece of shit little bitch.
The former President assertion that he is in the right would necessitate his lawyer challenging the constitutionality of the Presidential Records Act of 1978. It is conceivable that he could challenge the PRA on "takings" mkaing the case that the papers are his. I think this would be a long shot.
I thought none of the charges against Trump are PRA-related.
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shreek is having a hard time making his mind up on that one.
I wonder what trenchant psychological analysis you have for us regarding Pence, Biden, Obama, (H) Clinton, Bush and (B) Clinton doing exactly the same thing, cytotoxic. We know you're a psychology expert because of your extensive experience with gender dysphoria cases.
"Trump as president got to do whatever he wanted to do"
Do you remember what actually happened 2017 to 2021?
He could not even get troops out of Syria because the Pentagon lied to him about troop numbers there.
Well, that’s a simplified and inaccurate version of the story of how an envoy lied to Trump, but now has praise for Trump’s Middle East policy. The full story is more complex and is not very good evidence of the “Deep State”:
https://www.defenseone.com/threats/2020/11/outgoing-syria-envoy-admits-hiding-us-troop-numbers-praises-trumps-mideast-record/170012/
"He lied but he had really good intentions and he's a swell guy" isn't more complex, Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq., it's just typical dissembling because you're a mendacious lying piece of shit bootlicking Nazi. I suppose if damiksec wanted to bring forth a better example he could have gone with the FBI deliberately lying to the FISA court so it could spy on Trump and launch a 4 year counter-intelligence operation culminating in 2 impeachments and a "fortified" election.
Everyone loves to hate the Fed chair but it turns out he may have pulled off the "soft landing", Peanuts.
No hike expected today, inflation is cooling, jobs are hot as hell and there has been no recession PLUS we are in a new bull market for the S&P 500 after a blistering bear market in 2022.
And King Dollar is still strong as death.
Smoking hot economy Peanuts!
Remember that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.
Smoking hot economy Peanuts!
You're the best troll this board has ever seen.
And the one least connected to reality. turd lies; it's what turd does.
But he's consistent and committed. Even Tony seems to have given up, but this asshole keeps on coming.
And lying. Don't leave out the 'lying' part; it's what turd does.
Well, that’s a major slap in the face to Tulpa.
Unemployment went up (before corrections) last quarter. Inflation is still double historic averages. Value of the dollar is still way less than when Biden took over. Labor participation is still under 2019.
You cheer? Lol.
It’s not his fault, he’s retarded.
Yeah! And Black Satan led him astray. The article is abt The Don, not some nameless masquerader, right?
Mashed potatoes killed the singing waffle.
"Unemployment went up (before corrections) last quarter."
But still lower than any point in Trump's Presidency. What's your point?
"Inflation is still double historic averages."
You think 2% inflation is the historic average? Or are you just bad at math?
"Value of the dollar is still way less than when Biden took over."
The dollar is stronger today than at almost every point in Trump's Presidency, and is much lower than its peak (during Biden's Presidency). https://tradingeconomics.com/united-states/currency
"Labor participation is still under 2019."
You still haven't learned what the labor participation rate is and what it means, have you? It isn't tbe negative economic indicator you think it is.
So with the exception of inflation, which has slowly declined every month for over a year (which is a good thing if you don't want another recession), every economic indicator you mentioned is better now than during Trump's term.
You really don't underatand macroeconomics at all, do you?
you're an idiot. been to the grocery store or the gas station recently? they tell a much different story.
Is this analysis based on the rig count, the spittin' tobaccy index, or the price of hardcore child pornography in real dollars, shreek?
1Q-2Q22 recession in case you forgot. MSM tried to sweep it under the carpet, but the figures don’t lie and aren’t going away.
Markets just barely above Jan 2021. Not red hot, and expect more pain since inflation 5% is the new normal.
>>"I did everything right and they indicted me," he said.
was a good line.
How so? He plainly didn't do everything right in this matter.
and yet no summary execution, so …
edit: did you dine with Dan Abrams last night?
Don’t even know who that is.
There’s a lot of daylight between “Trump did some things wrong” and “Trump should be summarily executed”. As I said many times now, I don’t think Trump should have been prosecuted in this matter.
Not only have you not said that but you've spent 16 hours per day every day for the last week defending the prosecution and insisting that it is fully legitimate. It's too bad you only studied computer science, engineering, construction management and law, Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq. If you taken some statistics or marketing you might have learned what "revealed preference" is.
He plainly didn’t do everything right in this matter.
Presumptive guilt. So libertarian.
>>Are Senate Republicans beginning to turn on the former president?
presupposes past support.
Now we are gaslighting about the majority of Republicans in Congress toadying up to Trump in the past.
yes, yes you are.
Because Romney, Chaney, Ryan, McCain, Kinzinger, Newhouse, Katko, Beutler, Rice, Meijer, Valadao, Upton, Gonzalez, Amash and all the other Nevertrumpers were totally Trump’s greatest allies.
It’s really quite meta how you gaslight while in the process of accusing others of gaslighting, Mike.
It’s like Gasception.
(Ominous music plays)
>>MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks
all seventy-four regular viewers pleased.
>>Acclaim for Mr. McCarthy's work was not universal ... There are few notable women in his work.
original title No Country For Old Men ... Or Stupid Whiny Chicks discarded
"And don't even get me started on the absence of *trans*women in his work!"
and so begins the history lesson for the future.
Trump is absolutely terrible for this country..... and these indictments and the ones in NY are likely to put him back in the white house.
if you are going to go after a former or current president, "historic" is not enough. you have to be right, and it has to be the right thing to do. all the charges currently filed basically amount to sloppy book keeping. (yeah, yeah, the talking heads can throw some other adjectives at it and talk about trump's nutty behavior, but that is basically what they all are.... clerical errors and paper not returned to the proper folders.) this just isn't something that has any damaging effect on him because nobody REALLY cares about any of that.
it is possible that the findings of the election interference investigations could reveal something more significant and worth pursuing...... but few people will probably notice because these two sets of indictments came first and the "witch-hunt" narrative will be firmly established before anything comes from that.
end of the day, i think history might just record these indictments as what gets trump back in the white house.
Man, it's a good thing you posted in all lower case with a few RANDOM ALL CAPS or else I might have mistaken you for shreek, shreek.
fuck off, troll.
Or what, shreek, you'll post more child porn and burn this sock too?
MSNBC decided not to broadcast Trump's post-arraignment remarks because the network did not want to air "untrue things." CNN made a similar decision. Fox aired the remarks in full
Aren’t these the same motherfuckers who still won’t let go of”Russian Collusion!!!”?
Is promising to pardon Donald Trump a really good campaign strategy? It may play well during the nomination process, but is likely to fail in the general. I think a non-Trump Republican candidate could do well in 2024, but not with an albatross like a pardon promise hanging on their neck.
I'd say it is a gamble, but probably a smart-ish one. it is really about the primaries and taking some of those voters who don't really want trump but are concerned by what is being done to him. to beat him in the primary they need to convince voters they have a better chance of winning the general AND not dismiss that emotional response to these indictments
if that works and they make it to the general they just have to paint the picture that they are trying to get trump into retirement and out of the news cycle. heck, it would probably be a smart move for Biden to pardon him. (get him out of the news and decimate the narrative that the DOJ is doing Biden's will.)
First, I don't like the idea of pardoning anyone prior to adjudication of their case. Accepting a pardon is also accepting guilt of the charges and no one should accept guilt if they are innocent. Secondly, we should know that a person is guilty in a trial or plea before we pardon them.
I would also point out Stephen Carter's article in my local newspaper. A number of people have taken classified document with no intent to release them but rather just to have them. These people often plead guilty and have no significant sentence. The government is primarily interested in recovering of the documents. So it is very possible for the former President to avoid a trial and jail time by a skillful plea bargain.
https://madison.com/eedition/page-a17/page_9e5aded0-0a23-57ab-8436-b6dca49a21e6.html
i see it more like the Nixon pardon. nobody even knew what the potential charges would have been. but they knew it would be a long dark period for the country if that was all played out.
he was out of power, and it was decided to just move on. might not have been justice, but the whole country was better off for it. that might be hard for Biden to sell, as trump is still running. but if trump is beat in the primary, it is an easy sell for whoever beat him..
That's because you're a fucking TDS-addled pile of shit. Fuck off and die, asshole.
dumb fuck is too stupid to even understand i am saying trump SHOULD be pardoned....
He should never been charged especially under the espionage act. Or is your argument a political indictment is fine if you force an opposing candidate to say he was guilt to avoid jail?
"Or is your argument a political indictment is fine if you force an opposing candidate to say he was guilt to avoid jail?"
what?!?!?! where the fuck did you pull that BS idea from? don't tell me you are one of the dumb dumbs who really thinks me and moderation are the same person. i never said anyone had to admit guilt. i explicitly related the situation to Nixon where the charges were not even filed to know what the accusations were, let alone guilt. and i have on several occasions said that they never should have filed these charges or the ones in NY.
It would be hilarious if Biden pardoned him...
But Biden would probably open himself up to a premeditated murder charge, knowing what that would do to Trump.
This was just as stupid when you first posted it 3 days ago on your main handle, sarcasmic.
It will assure the 'Republicans for Biden' from 2020 engage in a repeat performance.
The question to ask, in terms of 2024 politics, is how will any given action shift the 2020 vote split.
None of the MAGA folks are going to switch parties. So they (and their issues) can be ignored.
The issues that are important, are the ones that will pull the 'Reagan-Bush-Dole-Bush-Bush-McCain-Romney... BIDEN' voters back to the GOP...
And promising to pardon the guy who made them switch parties isn't that....
Seek treatment, asshole. TDS-addled shits are not destined to live their lives in total, abysmal stupidity.
How about the last 3 years of shit? Democrats claiming children belong to the government? Politicalization of institutions?
Dave is right in that Trump or DeSantis need to win the middle, moderates, independents, etc. MAGA alone won’t win, unfortunately.
For the benefit of anyone reading this, Moderation4ever, Foo_dd and Dave_A are all sockpuppet accounts of an individual here who used to go by the handle "shrike" and then switched to a handle called "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" which was banned permanently from this site after he used it to post dark web links to hardcore child pornography.
Stop samefagging your own posts, shreek, it's cringe.
He seems to think he gets an extra 50 cents per each sockpuppet.
stop samefagging your own posts!!!!!
Speak for yourself, Shrike. You don't get any extra half dollars for adding more sockpuppets than you can swing your tiny dick at.
for the benefit of anyone with a brain, this asshole is the one who is probably a sock. pathetic little trolls who can't think of anything more creative than claiming everyone that disagrees with them is really just one person.
The more you whine about it, the more you give the appearance that you are merely a fap sock.
Oh, Tulpa goes way beyond being a sock. He is the all-time champion Reason troll. He has databases, hundreds of fake accounts, pioneered using non-visible Unicode characters to spoof people’s handles.
It’s quite impressive, really, and one wonders what he could do if he used his talents for some constructive purpose.
Sorry Episiarch/Bo Cara Esq., but this retarded shtick you picked up from sarcasmic is still not quite correct. I was here before Tulpa existed. Before account registration. Back when shreek was still "shrike" and hadn't been banned for posting child porn. Back when White Indian used to spam every comment section with his "gamboling" copypasta. Back when you were still using your Episiarch handle for your main and your Bo Cara Esq. persona for the tiresome troll shtick you eventually brought to your Mike Laursen sock. If you weren't such an autistic fucking retard, just like shreek, you'd recognize my rhetorical and grammatical tics and pretty easily be able to place me, but since you're too autistic and fucking retarded to even recognize your own rhetorical and grammatical tics when you're socking, I'm not surprised you can't figure it out.
Everyone with a brain who has been for more than a year already knows this is your sock, shreek. You've accidentally outed it multiple times because you're such a fucking retard, and that's without mentioning that you drag your exact same grammatical and rhetorical tics with you between all your socks. It's why we all call you out within a few hours of you creating them. You're too autistic to control it. Although your alllowercasewithoccassionalRANDOMALLCAPS shtick on this one is impressively consistent. You do lapse out of it when you're in a spittle flecked Trump rage sometimes, but it's one of your better efforts.
Defiant Trump
This is the main thing right there.
I've never liked Trump on a personal level. But I've always liked his policies and he's been right about practically everything. Once again; he's completely right.
The Nazi's are only after Trump because they know (by his test-proven administration) HE will try to end the Nazi-Empire in this BS US'Socialist'A.. Which really is an attach on it's own citizens (exactly as every Socialist Empire has done).
"I will try to be your retribution" doesn't quite have the same ring to it, though...
Maybe he should try Si se puede, sarcasmic. That got you pretty moist for 8 years. Shit, good memories huh? Back when Tina Fey and Jon Stewart were still culturally relevant and your daughter was too small to fight back.
Trump's meme is a candid confession, once you realize "they" means "our Kleptocracy prohibition raiders" and "our racial collectivist girl-bullier minions." If his victims seek reprisal, he shoulda thought of that during his televangelist Baptism by Drool.
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Sylvester's pipe is a churlish damnation once you realize "them" means "your Comstock party favors" and "my Hebrew novelist man-eating slaves." If their allies seek absolution, they shoulda driven to the Andes during their press conference luncheon by fire.
It's amazing how you can substitute literally any set of nouns, adjectives and pronouns in a Hankie post and end up with something no less retarded.
'Did everything right'?
Yawn. He really is incapable of admitting that he ever did anything wrong, isn't he...
There are multiple witnesses testifying that he *intentionally* lied to the federal government about retaining property he *stole* from said government.... That he directed people to conceal said property from the government....
But he did everything right...
Notably, all the people who he whines-and-cries about being 'treated unfairly' relative to classified information, CONTACTED THE GOVERNMENT and offered to return all information in their possession *before* the government became aware that said information was out of it's control.
NO ONE ELSE defied subpoenas, conspired to conceal information, or lied about having returned it...
Which is why no one else got charged.
Seek treatment, shit bag. TDS-addled shits are not destined to live their lives in total, abject stupidity.
Yawn... Brainwashed ass-kissers who would rather the GOP lose forever, than admit they made a mistake have no room to talk...
no, the reason no one else was charged is because the doj & fbi are nothing more than hacks who cover for democrats. comey and clinton both did the exact same thing but there were no charges. biden is certainly guilty of bribing a foreign government and the fbi has had the allegations for years but nothing has been done. there is clearly a two tier justice system.
"certainly guilty"?
Hillary Clinton used BleachBit to wipe a subpoenaed server and used hammers to smash subpoenaed cellular phones that contained classified information, shreek, but you knew that.
The Clinton people destroyed evidence.
They did not defy a subpoena.
Further, I'm referring to the Pence, Biden and Trump cases - only one of which involves willful defiance & lying... And for the most petty of reasons (Effectively, a 79yo toddler yelling MINE! at mom-and-dad)
BHAA HAA HA
Funny stuff right there
"The Clinton people destroyed evidence.
They did not defy a subpoena."
Umm....what?
The evidence they destroyed WAS SUBPOENAED.
Guess what destruction of subpoenaed evidence is in the pantheon of defying a subpoena?
Yes, I know you'd rather not talk about all the times the federal government let prominent Democrats break the law with impunity while they're attempting to prosecute Trump for breaking that very same law, even though the president is not actually legally able to do so, shreek. That's why it's so fun to rub your kiddie-fucking nose in it.
Notably, all the people who he whines-and-cries about being ‘treated unfairly’ relative to classified information, CONTACTED THE GOVERNMENT and offered to return all information in their possession *before* the government became aware that said information was out of it’s control.
Yes, that is true and notable. You are leaving out some other notable facts:
1. The other parties only contacted and offered to return the information *after* they saw the government develop a new interest in enforcing a law that was previously not taken very seriously. It’s the equivalent of not paying your property tax until you see sheriff’s deputies evicting the neighbors for non-payment, then rushing down to the office to pay, and then preening about being morally superior to that neighbor.
2. And yes you are correct, they were able to do this before the government became officially aware of their papers. Notably, the government has a great deal of discretion in deciding what to become aware of and when to become aware of it. NARA can decide some papers are important and others aren’t worth following up on. The FBI can hunt for leads, cultivate informants, and pursue hints, or they can decide to not give a shit. In Biden’s case the lack of awareness lasted for more than a decade. It’s fair to guess, although it’s just conjecture, that without the pressure of public scrutiny, the authorities would have been happy to remain officially unaware of Biden and Pence's papers forever.
Trump should have handed back the papers at the first threat of legal action, and then used his inimitable “talents” to point out that the authorities never made any requests for Biden and Pence to defy. However, he's Trump, so he didn't do that.
Yep. And that's essentially why he's now a criminal defendant, and they aren't.
This is no less retarded when you post it on your sock, sarcasmic. It also conveniently ignores the Hillary and Bill Clinton document cases, as well as the Obama documents case, because just like shreek's Dave_A sock you'd rather not talk about a 1:1, apples to apples comparison in which the government ate shit and decided not to enforce the law because it would blow up your narrative.
Biden had classified materials for TEN years, that he was not authorized to have, in his garage and spread around other unsecured places, and he just gets to skate? The crime (if there is one for this type of action) is considerably worse than Trump’s since Trump still gets security updates as ex Prez.
> "Bill Clinton lost the nuclear codes," said Trump. "Joe Biden broke the law in many ways, we're finding out, and so far has not gotten indicted."
Anytime I hear people defend themselves comparatively like this, I regard it as an admission (of sorts) of wrongdoing.
John gets caught stealing a pack of bubblegum.
"But Jack stole money from his mother's purse and Joe gets into fights at school!"
It's an intentional redirection of your attention to someone else - ideally someone you're already prejudiced against in the first place - to emphasize their misdeeds while downplaying your own.
And that's usually one of two things: a guilty conscience trying to shield itself; or a whiny "it's not fair!" tantrum.
Person A steals a loaf of bread. Person B steals a car. Person C steals $10,000,000 from a bank.
Quantifying wrongdoing is intentionally trying to ignore the fact that they're all thieves. Yes, some acts of thievery may be worse than others, and may be deserving of harsher consequences than others. But a Guilty Conscience or Fairness Whiner ONLY ever brings this up in order to (mis)characterize their own situation as, "Well bad is better than worse, and at least I'm not worse. So... that's not really so bad, is it."
And THAT is one of the most corrupting, insidious, destructive, dare I say evil ways of thinking known to man. And, unfortunately, it's become very common nowadays. Across all cultures, demographics, politics, and ideologies.
I did some thinking for myself and realized immediately it was kind of silly for me to do research to find evidence to support your claims.
Oh fuck off. You asked for names, he gave you names.
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They'll make the stand Charles Koch wants them to make. And from what I can see, Charles Koch is pro-globalist, pro-WEF, butt-buddies with George Soros, and part of the establishment elite. Trump, representing the unwashed populist masses, stands for what Koch does not. Not a chance in Hell that Reason makes a proper principled libertarian argument regarding Trump.
Just a typo. But ill allow it.
I think I am good with my metaphor. If you look you will see that the general meaning of albatross around one's neck is along the lines of "a heavy burden of guilt that becomes an obstacle to success". In the case I used it to suggest that the candidate promising it will have given themselves a burden that will obstruct their chance of election success.
Not really sure what you are trying to get at, were you sleepy when you wrote the reply?
You know, you could have just pretended you never read that instead of doubling down, shreek. Or hell, you've already got 4 socks going in this thread, you could have just diverted with a red herring. Stick to the ActBlue script, you aren't going to get your 50 cents if you try to improvise.
is like Mike and I use different Engrish
idk they’re 1-for-1 so far … stats encourage likelihood
Is that a good example of your English usage?