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Borders

'No One Will Become an American Until…the Border Is Secure'

Plus: Lawsuits over drag shows, a ban on Chinese citizens buying property in Florida, and more...

Elizabeth Nolan Brown | 5.24.2023 9:47 AM

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Paths to lawful residency plus enhanced border measures in new, bipartisan immigration reform bill. New legislation from Reps. María Elvira Salazar (R–Fla.) and Veronica Escobar (D–Texas) aims to compromise on concerns about immigration. It lays out a path to legal residency for some people in the country illegally while also ramping up border security measures, among other things. But this path could be held up unless the U.S. comptroller general declares the border secure.

Called the Dignity Act, the bill would be the "first serious bipartisan immigration solution proposed by Congress in over a decade," they said in a Tuesday statement. So far, the bill—an update on similar legislation introduced by Salazar last year—has attracted a bipartisan roster of five additional co-sponsors. You can find a detailed summary of the massive bill here and all 500 pages (which I have not yet read in full) here.

The meat of Salazar and Escobar's bill seems to be two new programs—the Dignity Program and the Redemption Program—by which people in the U.S. illegally could obtain deferred removal or lawful permanent resident status.

The Dignity Program provides for deferred action on removal plus travel & employment authorization for undocumented immigrants under certain conditions. To start, they must have been in the U.S. for five years prior to this bill passing, must not be eligible for admission under certain provisions of the Immigration and Nationality Act, and must not have a significant criminal record, such as being convicted of any felony.

To apply for the program, people would be required to submit a $1,000 "restitution" payment (to "be used to support American workers") and submit biometric and biographical data to the Department of Homeland Security (DHS). The deferment period can last up to seven years, during which time applicants must report to DHS biennially and pay an additional $1,000 fee with each report until a total of $5,000 has been paid. During this period, they would be expected to pay taxes, have health insurance, and be employed or in school for at least four of the years (subject to certain waivers for people with young children, disabilities, etc.). Additionally, an applicant would not be able to "avail himself or herself of any Federal means-tested benefits or entitlement programs" and would be forced to pay (in addition to other taxes) a 1.5 percent income tax which would go into the Immigration Infrastructure Fund.

People who complete the Dignity Program would be considered lawful non-immigrants— authorized for employment and eligible for reentry—for a five-year period and can renew for as many periods as they like. They would also become eligible to apply for the Redemption Program.

Under the Redemption Program, people in the Dignity Program would be able to apply for lawful permanent residency status, valid for five years and renewable indefinitely. During a conditional period in the Redemption Program, they would be required to submit a biennial report to DHS, pay an additional $5,000, do at least 200 hours of community service, and learn English and U.S. civics. (Learning requirements may be waived for people ages 65 and up.)

Section 24103 of the bill says:

if an alien maintains and completes the requirements of this section, after a period of 4 years beginning on the date that the alien's application for participation in the Redemption Program is approved, and subject to sections 111181 and 1515 of Division A of this Act, the Secretary may adjust the status of the alien to that of a lawful permanent resident, except that the alien's status granted under section 24101 may not be extended unless the alien demonstrates that the alien satisfies the requirements under section 312(a) of the Immigration and Nationality Act (8 U.S.C. 1423(a))

People will surely argue over the particular requirements of the Dignity and Redemption Programs. Is it fair to make participants pay an extra 1.5 percent income tax? Will the thousands of dollars in required "restitution" payments make the program prohibitively expensive for many undocumented immigrants? Should learning English really be a condition? These are all valid questions on which reasonable people might disagree. But at least this bill gets the ball rolling on discussion over what such a program might look like and lays out the terms in a relatively clear way.

The big red flag for all of this comes in some meta-conditions set for the Redemption Program. Here's how Salazar put it:

For those skeptics, many of them in my Republican Party, that say we are legitimatizing millions without the border being secure, as it has happened for 30 years, listen to this: there's a provision within the Dignity Act that guarantees that no one will become an American until the Government Accountability Office certifies that the border is secure.

"No one will become an American" at all until the border is certified secure?

Looking at the text of the bill, it seems that what Salazar means is no one who completes the Redemption Program can be declared a lawful permanent resident without action from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and DHS. From the bill's text:

The Secretary of Homeland Security may not adjust the status of an individual under section 24103 until the date that the Comptroller General of the United States certifies that the Border Patrol has achieved a 90 percent or higher detection and apprehension rate of individuals attempting to cross the southern border of the United States unlawfully during the previous 12–month period.

And later:

The Secretary of Homeland Security may not adjust the status of an individual under section 24103 until the Secretary of Commerce certifies that all employers in all States are in compliance with the requirements of section 274A(b) of the Immigration and Nationality Act.

Those are some pretty big—and hard to assess—conditions. How does the comptroller general determine that Border Patrol has reached a 90 percent detection and apprehension rate? By nature, people who sneak into the country are undetectable.

Even if adequate assessment mechanisms can be agreed upon, and security goals met, this seems likely to hold up the Redemption Program for a long time.

And what if the security goals or employer compliance goals aren't meant—where does that leave people in the programs? It seems folks who submit data, pay extra taxes, pay restitution fees, and go through all the other requirements could be left in limbo, unable to actually achieve the promised legal status simply because of matters totally out of their hands.


FREE MINDS

A Florida hamburger joint is suing over the state's anti–drag show law. Senate Bill 1438, signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis, a Republican, earlier this month, gives state agencies the power to shut down or revoke the liquor licenses of businesses that allow minors to see an "adult live performance." Hamburger Mary's, which allows minors at its drag brunch on Sundays, is suing.

"Danielle Otterbein says she and her friends frequently go to drag brunch at Hamburger Mary's with their daughters on Sundays," notes WESH 2 Florida:

"I love the pageantry. I love the camp. I love the silliness of it. My daughter is the same way. It's fun. It's a really good time," she said.

However, she says she and her friends haven't been able to bring their children since the state legislature passed the bill.

The owners of Hamburger Mary's are suing the state of Florida over the bill, saying the law is too vague. They also claim bookings fell 20% in May after they told customers children could no longer come to the drag shows.

Republican state Rep. Randy Fine says the bill is not vague at all.

"It's not unclear at all. What's clear is you have a business in Orlando saying they will go out of business if they cannot do sex shows for children. That is stunning," he said.

The new law defines adult performance as a live show that "depicts or simulates nudity, sexual conduct, sexual excitement, or specific sexual activities" or "lewd conduct, or the lewd exposure of prosthetic or imitation genitals or breasts" when it "predominantly appeals to a prurient, shameful, or morbid interest; is patently offensive to prevailing standards," and/or "is without serious literary, artistic, political, or scientific value" for children. That may not sound all that objectionable, but critics of the measure say it's meant to ban any drag performances that allow parents to bring their kids or that it goes too far, preventing even older teens from seeing shows with raunchy humor (like A Drag Queen Christmas, targeted last December by Florida's Department of Business and Professional Regulation).


FREE MARKETS

A group of Chinese citizens who live in Florida are suing over the state's ban on most citizens of China, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Russia, or North Korea buying property in the state. They're represented by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU). You can find the full complaint here.

The new Florida law—S.B. 264—"bears more than a passing resemblance to those xenophobic edicts" of earlier eras, writes Reason's Jacob Sullum:

DeSantis portrays S.B. 264, which sharply restricts land ownership by Chinese citizens, as part of the state's efforts to contain the influence of the Chinese Communist Party (CCP). But the plaintiffs represented by the ACLU, who live in Florida legally but do not have green cards, have nothing to do with the CCP. They have been working or studying in the United States for years and are dismayed by the arbitrary, nationality-based rules that suddenly stand in the way of their plans to buy residential property. …

DeSantis wants us to believe that preventing a dietician, a property manager, or a professor from buying property in Florida, based purely on their national origin and non-immigrant status, somehow strikes a blow against "the Chinese Communist Party" and "crack[s] down on Communist China." But it is hard to see why innocent people should suffer for the crimes of an oppressive regime they left behind.

"Florida's discriminatory property law is unfair, unjustified, and unconstitutional," Ashley Gorski, a senior staff attorney with the ACLU's National Security Project, said in a statement. "Everyone in the United States is entitled to equal protection under our laws, including citizens of other countries. If SB 264 goes into effect, it will profoundly harm our clients and countless other immigrants in Florida."


QUICK HITS

Often referenced "masks do harm" study retracted.

See: https://t.co/utu7br0qg6

Editors: "…complaints were valid … the article does not meet the standards of editorial & scientific soundness…"

Will likely live on as a zombie & retraction part of a conspiracy narrative. pic.twitter.com/wyXHVJC76T

— Timothy Caulfield (@CaulfieldTim) May 19, 2023

• Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis is reportedly slated to announce his presidential bid tomorrow during a conversation with Twitter CEO Elon Musk.

• Republicans "want a new, non-metaphorical drug war," David Weigel warns at Semafor.

• "The South Carolina Senate approved a bill Tuesday that would ban most abortions after around six weeks of pregnancy—before most people know they are pregnant—and sent it to the Republican governor who has promised to sign the bill into law as soon as possible," reports the Associated Press.

• A bill that would have required Texas schools to display the Ten Commandments in all classrooms failed to advance in the state's GOP-controlled House.

• Reason's Natalie Dowzicky donated her bone marrow for free. But not everyone should have to do so without compensation, she writes.

• Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints.

• Arizona's war on tamales.

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    Florida Teacher Says Parents’ Rights Are ‘Gone’ When Your Child is in the Public School System
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    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Psychiatrist says his expertise trumps parents’ rights when working with transgender children
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      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

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        NEW: Baylor College of Medicine ethics professor Claire Horner, who trains doctors working at Texas Children's Hospital, explains that "parental rights" are the biggest "hangup" that might stop them from performing sex-change procedures on children.

        1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

          "They're Wanting to Play God"
          A new whistleblower describes the horrors of “gender-affirming care” at Texas Children’s Hospital.
          https://rufo.substack.com/p/theyre-wanting-to-play-god

          There is one particular story I want to share. There was a ten-year-old girl—I went into the room with the adolescent gynecology provider—and she was transgender. She wanted to be referred to as her preferred name. We’ll say that her preferred name was “John.” She wanted to be referred to as John. She was with her mom. They were of Hispanic origin. And they were there essentially for period-related issues.

          The conversation gets going, and the provider refers to her as him. She says, “John, what is going on? What can I do for you today?” And then the mom replies and accidentally refers to the daughter as a “her.” She says “Well, she is having these kind of issues and this kind of pain.” And then the girl turns around, looks at the mom, and she goes, “I’m a ‘he,’ mom. I’m a ‘he.’”

          And I’m watching this exchange. And the girl is this beautiful girl, but she’s dressed like a boy, very masculine, baggy pants, oversized shirt. Then the doctor asks this girl, “How are your periods coming along? Would you like for your periods to go away? Do you feel uncomfortable?” And the girl looks at the doctor and says, “Yeah, can we do that? Yes, I would love that.” And then the provider tells the girl, “It’s totally fine. You don’t have to have a period at all if you don’t want to.” And of course, this is all because she’s trying to transition to be a boy, and she doesn’t want a period.

          And the mom had this puzzled look. The mom had some real concerns, and this provider totally shut her down.

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  3. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Paths to lawful residency plus enhanced border measures in new, bipartisan immigration reform bill.

    A good bipartisan compromise? I doubt such a thing is possible.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Come on, man! It’s 500 pages! That means a lot of thought went into it!

  4. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Soooo.... they get to kill the crazy guy on the subway but we don't?

    NYT Slammed for Promoting Assisted Suicide for Mental Illness
    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2023/04/29/nyt-slammed-for-promoting-assisted-suicide-for-mental-illness/
    Assisted suicide is “moral progress” and should also be available for those suffering mental illness, according to a recent New York Times piece that ironically admits many who have experienced intense mental suffering eventually “find themselves grateful for their lives once the suicidal moment or attempt has passed.”

    The essay, titled “Medical Assistance in Dying Should Not Exclude Mental Illness” and penned by Canadian essayist Clancy Martin, begins with the author’s description of his personal suicide attempts when young.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Step 1 Push SEL and victim culture to make everyone mentally ill.

      Step 2 Convince them to die.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        1. surgically mutilate the kids.
        2. buttf-ck the kids.
        3. kill the kids
        4. profit

        What will the drug companies do if we kill people who need expensive meds?

        1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

          Engineer a new desires then sell the cure

    2. SRG   2 years ago

      Meanwhile about 50,000 Americans a year die from gun violence and the rightwing provides little but "thoughts and prayers". So really, you don't give a shit about killing in general, just playing culture war games.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        And shrike uses the democrat talking point that includes suicides.

        Good work buddy.

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          Still not shrike, you lying POS.

          It may be a Democratic talking point but it doesn't make it ipso facto wrong. If the GOP truly cared about lives the way you lot claim to, you'd be doing a damn sight more than just offering thoughts and prayers.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

            It is actually completely wrong as we don’t describe violence for self inflicted acts. Understand shrike?

            Or do you call it an act of violence when you stub your toe?

      2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        You can tell a prog by the way they say "gun violence". There's only violence, you pathetic twat.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

          Your reading comprehension thing, again. Of course there is gun violence. “Gun” is an adjective here, modifying the noun, “violence”. It means violence where a gun is used as the instrument of violence.

          1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            Of course the other leftist would have a pedantic response.

            Why doesn't the left say "car violence, fist violence, bat violence, or knife violence"? Why is the ONLY descriptive ever used, is "gun"?
            Hint: it's part of a leftist narrative, but you know that.

            You clowns call suicide gun violence, but never pill violence, rope violence, bridge violence, or building violence? Why is that?

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              I happen to agree with you that gun violence statistics should not be inflated by including suicides.

              Why is that? You’d have to ask an actual leftist.

            2. SRG   2 years ago

              Oh other forms of violence are also referred to, you lying POS. And right-wing media use the phrase as well, fwiw.

              As far as suicides are concerned, yes, gun suicides account for more than 50% of gun deaths. So are you happy with "only" 20,000 gun murders? It would seem so. And guns are the single largest instrument of suicide as well.

              1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                So are you happy with “only” 20,000 gun murders? It would seem so. And guns are the single largest instrument of suicide as well.

                Not happy, just indifferent. I'm not giving up a liberty because the chronically depressed and inner city gangs, both using guns, inflate the American death rate.

                Just like every other leftist, you blame the tool and not the root causes.

                1. Ersatz   2 years ago

                  good answer!

              2. DesigNate   2 years ago

                They aren’t given the adjective descriptor like “gun”, you stupid cunt.

              3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                So are you happy with “only” 20,000 gun murders? It would seem so.

                That's a false dilemma. Far more people die from alcohol-related causes, and you don't see the left arguing for the repeal of the 21st amendment. Wonder why that is? Guess it's because they're happy with 140,000 alcohol deaths.

            3. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

              The one you'll never see is Black Violence.

          2. Uilleam   2 years ago

            You know what he meant, you disingenuous twat. And where is the vast majority of that "gun violence" occurring?

        2. SRG   2 years ago

          You pathetic fuckwit, there is violence, the genus, and gun, the species; hence different categories of violence. It particularly makes sense to look at specific forms of violence when one notes that the US is not IIRC an outlier for other kinds of violence, bur is a huge outlier amongst Western countries for gun deaths.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Still retarded even with a fake British accent.

          2. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Nearly three times that many die from alcohol-related causes. What's your point?

      3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        Actually, the right wing provides a link to the US Constitution.

      4. Zeb   2 years ago

        The great majority of which are suicides. Also, murder is illegal. It's debatable whether assisted suicide is murder or not. But I don't think the answer is obviously that it is not.

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          Not "the great majority" - about 55%.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Excessive drinking is the leading cause of preventable death in the US--not firearms.

      5. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

        Tens of thousands of Americans die from gunshots every year because "progressives" have promoted and subsidized the raising of mentally ill boys.

      6. DesigNate   2 years ago

        Fuck off, slaver.

      7. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

        Meanwhile about 50,000 Americans a year die from gun violence

        Nearly three times that many die from alcohol-related causes. What's your point?

    3. Zeb   2 years ago

      This is the most fucking insane thing yet. When treating serious mental illness, preventing suicide is supposed to be one of the main goals. They are literally doing the diametrical opposite of what their job is here. I'm not opposed in principle to providing people with the means to end their lives. But being of sound mind should be a requirement there.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A Florida hamburger joint is suing over the state's anti–drag show law.

    For the love of God, can we as a country move on to the next thing already? Surely there's some other marginalized pervert group that needs the pedestal.

    1. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Still stuck on pedophiles. Buttplug approves.

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Bestiality next, one presumes.

    2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      "It's not (the FL law) unclear at all. What's clear is you have a business in Orlando saying they will go out of business if they cannot do sex shows for children. That is stunning," he said.

      The fact that this has to be said out loud...

      1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

        You are so right. Team Red only has the best of intentions. They totally mean well and are solely dedicated to protect kids. They have absolutely no intention whatsoever in defining “sex show” so broadly as to encompass drag queen shows with no sexually suggestive content at all, because conservatives just think drag queens associating with kids is icky, sex or no sex. No no no. That would never cross their pure minds.

        1. JesseAz   2 years ago

          It isnt defined broadly pedo. I get you want loopholes to fuck kids.

        2. Uilleam   2 years ago

          Fuck off pedo

        3. Zeb   2 years ago

          Drag is an inherently sexual type of performance. Everyone fucking knew this 5 years ago.

          1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Hell, they knew it over 25 years ago when To Wong Foo and The Birdcage came out.

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        "If we cannot serve the children our mixed drinks, we'll go out of business!"

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          “If we can’t sell guns and booze to kids, we will go out of business “.

    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

      They are already working to transition to "minor attracted persons."

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      First-world problem?

    5. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Yes, it would be wonderful if Teams Red and Blue would drop this stupid culture war over what had been a very marginal subculture.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        If Team Blue wasn't forcing this shit on CHILDREN, there would be no culture war. Your ass hurts because Team Red has went on the offensive after being in defensive posture for so long.

        1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

          At least there is acknowledgement that Team Blue is fighting the Culture War.

          1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

            Thank you.

            If you go back and look at my part comments, I always acknowledge the role of Team Blue in the culture wars.

            BECAUSE I AM NOT ON TEAM RED OR BLUE.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Then why white knight those on "team blue"?

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Cite?

              Your posts are always saying not to fight back against the blue culture wars. Is that what you mean by acknowledge? Accept it is happening and don't fight back?

              You are firmly on team blue. You even mute everyone who has a different opinion than you.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          My comment was plainly critical of both Teams Red and Blue. It takes two teams to engage in an escalating cultural battle.

          We talked about your problems with reading comprehension yesterday. Maybe you should seek out some adult education. You can do online learning so you don’t have to leave your compound in the woods.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            So I was right. Never defend against an advancing culture war initiated by the left. Got it.

          2. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

            It takes two teams to engage in an escalating cultural battle.

            Go along to get along, huh, Mikey? Pathetic.

            Now I understand why you disdain self-defense so much. You have no idea how to take a stand. Outside of a keyboard, I mean.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              How am I “going along” with anything?

        3. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

          If Team Blue wasn’t forcing this shit on CHILDREN

          This is bullshit. Team Red is USING children as a PRETEXT for their culture war.

          I am sick and tired of this default assumption that Team Red just has the best of intentions and is only thinking about "the children". Wrong. They are thinking about their own cultural preferences.
          They want drag queens to be regarded as mentally ill deviants who should not be in public except as a punch line in a comedy show. They are also thinking about POWER. They are scaring voters to vote for them out of fear that "the trannies are coming for your kids". It is pure demagoguery. It is not the best of intentions. It is downright despicable intentions. JUST LIKE WITH TEAM BLUE, when they claim they want "common sense gun control" in order to "protect the kids". Wrong. They want "common sense gun control" in order to remake society into their vision of a gun-free paradise, and they USE kids to try to get their agenda through. They ALSO peddle in fear, with claims that if you don't vote for them, the Republicans will let mass shooters gun down kids in school. It is the exact same crap. Stop falling for their lies and their nonsense.

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Man that is one giant strawman.

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              About the size of the one in The Wicker Man.

          2. DesigNate   2 years ago

            Yep, it’s not like this all started as a REACTION to some city ordinance that let men use the women’s rooms in Target…

        4. Ghatanathoah   2 years ago

          @Idaho Bob

          Team Blue is not trying to force this stuff on children. They are, on the contrary, trying to protect children from Team Red. The only reason that you think anything is being forced on children is that you take it as an article of faith that children are all aromantic and asexual beings who never question their gender identity until they are exposed to ideas about LGBT issues and rights. This article of faith is obviously false, but needs to be maintained in order for Team Red to pretend that they are virtuous protectors of children instead of cruel tyrants.

          The fact is, children often develop romantic and sexual interest in other children spontaneously. They often question their gender identity spontaneously, without prompting. Exposing them to ideas about LGBT rights and issues helps them make sense of these experiences. Team Blue isn't trying to force anything on children, it's trying to help them understand themselves.

          I disagree with Team Blue on a lot of issues, but not this one. This one issue where they are 100% in the right and where Team Red is a mix of self-deluded and evil.

          1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

            Thank you for stating the genderist delusion so frankly.

          2. DesigNate   2 years ago

            “Protecting children from Team Red”

            Hahahahahahaha

            Man, that is shrike levels of stupid.

          3. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

            Encouraging minors to have their perfectly normal sex organs removed and be injected with opposite sex hormones in the service of left-wing delusions of "equity" is the very definition of evil.

      2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        Marginal subcutures? Parents? Children?

      3. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

        “….what had been a very marginal subculture.”

        Yeah, then you throw in some kids, taxpayer money (story hour at libraries), and woke demands to put weirdness on a pedestal, and all of a sudden it ain’t so marginal no more.

        Anyway, sounds like you got a real victimhood narrative goin on there, laursen.

    6. CindyF   2 years ago

      It's important for the trans pedophiles to swing their penis in the faces of minor children. It's the only way to affirm their existence. If they can't perform before children, then they are forced to cancel their Pride parades. Democrats insist that child sexual abuse is their right under the First Amendment.

  6. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Food Trucks....

    Illinois health care program for noncitizens, including illegal immigrants, balloons to $1.1B
    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/illinois-health-care-program-noncitizens-including-illegal-immigrants-balloons-1-1b

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://www.durangoherald.com/articles/30000-noncitizens-living-in-colorado-received-postcards-encouraging-them-to-register-to-vote/
      DENVER – Colorado’s Secretary of State Office says it mistakenly sent postcards to about 30,000 noncitizens encouraging them to register to vote, blaming the error on a database glitch related to the state's list of residents with driver's licenses.

      1. Jerryskids   2 years ago

        Shouldn't read anything into the fact that she's a Democrat and urging illegal aliens to register to vote is just begging for vote fraud. Just an oopsie that could have happened to anybody. Even though allowing non-citizens to hold driver's licenses ought to tell you that driver's license databases are not a good way to identify voters.

      2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        The “glitches” always go one way.

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

          Not a conspiracy

      3. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Don't forget all the federally funded lawyers for illegals or California making punishments less than citizens for illegals by policy.

  7. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

    "Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints."

    Target is a private company. They can do whatever they want. 🙂

    1. Sandra (formerly OBL)   2 years ago

      Gavin Newsom doesn't see it that way though.

      CEO of Target Brian Cornell selling out the LGBTQ+ community to extremists is a real profile in courage. This isn’t just a couple stores in the South. There is a systematic attack on the gay community happening across the country. Wake up America. This doesn’t stop here. You’re black? You’re Asian? You’re Jewish? You’re a woman? You’re next.

      Eeeeek! Soon Target will ban women from even entering the store!

      There's no way he believes this. He just knows millions of his dumbest supporters do.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        This isn’t just a couple stores in the South. There is a systematic attack on the gay community happening across the country.

        I remember Jean-Pierre saying this after a tranny murdered 6 Christian people, including three children at a school.

        The left is truly evil.

        1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          Reason: "what shooting?"

          1. JesseAz   2 years ago

            Allen Texas shooting disappeared fast after the nazi tattoo lie was debunked.

            1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              I actually didn't see that, was it a deep fake?

              1. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                It wasn’t him. He posted pictures of tattoos he found, not ones he had. He has a prominent neck tattoo missing from the photo posted. Police said he had cartel tats. If the claimed account was even his.

              2. A Thinking Mind   2 years ago

                I'd like a link because every search result I put in for "swastika debunked" or "nazi tattoo debunked" comes up with stories about how he was absolutely a neo-nazi and a white supremacist.

                1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                  So, is there any actual cite on this? Other than JesseAz saying it is so. Please link.

                  1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Hey shit weasel is asking for cites that I've already given a few times here. Already reposted.

                  2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

                    shut up, Fed

                2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  I posted the images of a prior arrest with a neck tattoo against the posted photos a week back, I"ll find it again. Give me a minute.

                3. JesseAz   2 years ago (edited)

                  Here is a picture of him sporting his neck tattoo.

                  https://twitter.com/MadgeFromTexas/status/1655698987406458886

                  Here is the picture the leftist reporter claimed was him, no neck tattoos.

                  https://twitter.com/BrandyZadrozny/status/1655650920603041792

                  Police also stated he had cartel tats. Cartels don't tat up people with nazi tattoos.

                  Also notice how all of the coverage linking these nazi post is sourced to the single reporter linked in the 2nd link here. No other verification of it.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Yeah, that first photo (MadgeFromTexas), of the actual assailant, is definitely a cartel or gang tat. I've seen those plenty of times before in Chicago. Where the fuck did the Nazi shit come from?

                    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      A single Wapo reporter with "expertise" on far right groups.

                4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                  Hmm, I just spent about 15 minutes searching for sources on the claim that Mauricio Garcia didn’t actually have a Nazi tattoo. Maybe the reason your search found nothing is there is nothing solid to find.

                  As far as I can tell, from posts on Twitter, it is mere speculation based on the photo Garcia posted to social media not showing his face. So, yes, it is possible the photo the guy posted wasn’t of himself, and one can certainly reserve judgement about it, but elevating doubt about who is shown in the photo into “it has been debunked” is going too far.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    Maybe if you didn't mute people, you might have seen it many times over. Has that ever occurred to you?

                    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

                      Then he couldn’t keep us his act like the mendacious twat he is

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    I mean I posted the actual photos. I am sorry you depend on someone else to tell you what to believe.

                  3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

                    It’s much easier for you to believe a Mexican whose mother doesn’t speak English is a White Nationalist- think about that

                5. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

                  I found this – https://www.wfaa.com/article/news/local/did-the-allen-texas-outlet-mall-shooting-suspected-shooter-have-a-gang-tattoo-on-his-hand/287-ac67de7a-57a8-4b4a-a37e-b38a04566306

                  "While officials have said they had evidence showing Garcia followed a Nazi ideology, law enforcement sources told WFAA that their investigation has not yielded any information showing that Garcia had any specific gang ties. "

                  “According to multiple law enforcement sources, there is no evidence to suggest Garcia had gang ties, and there is no evidence to suggest that the tattoo he had on his hand is an indication that he did.”

                  1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    Interesting. Although the question of whether Garcia had a Nazi tattoo and whether he had a gang tattoo aren’t really related, a lot of the tweets I saw claiming he doesn’t have a Nazi tattoo were posted adjacent to tweets claiming he couldn’t possibly be a Nazi because he had a gang tattoo from a gang that doesn’t get along with Nazis. But, if it isn’t true that he had a gang tattoo then that argument is debunked.

                    Personally, I’m not sure why it matters one way or the other. He was nuts, just like other mass murderers.

                    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

                      Aww, you unmuted me. Oh well.

                    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

                      Gosh, sorry. I don’t even remember who you are.

                      Don’t worry, if you show a consistent pattern of adding nothing to the conversation except lies and personal insults, I’ll mute you again. But, for now, you went and provided an interesting link.

                    3. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      Mike doesn’t mute anybody, he just ignores posts he doesn’t like.

                      Fair enough, just don’t act all ignorant.

                6. Longtobefree   2 years ago

                  Which search engine?

          2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            Actual Reason, as opposed to the Reason that only exists in my brother Mike’s lies:

            https://reason.com/2023/03/27/the-problems-with-just-getting-guns-out-of-peoples-hands-as-a-solution-to-gun-violence/

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              Reason is leftist and anti-Republican. That means they support gun control. Therefore the article you posted cannot exist.

            2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

              ctrl F - "trans" ...0/0

              ctrl F - propaganda hyperlink...1/1

              actual coverage...none

              1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                Give it up. It’s boring at this point.

                1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                  He will not rest until Reason has a story that begins with:

                  "A mentally ill transgender deviant transgender psycopathic transgender cold-blooded transgender murderer who was a transgender man killed six sweet innocent pure Christian schoolchildren because The Left filled his head with hateful transgender ideology, and The Entire Left is to blame, all the way from Joe Biden down to your local school counselor. The correct libertarian thing to do is to ban transgenderism and force people who think they might be transgender into mental hospitals where they can be coerced into "becoming normal" for their own good, because otherwise they are a threat to society."

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    Parsons and company need a slogan.

                    "Libertarians for coercion!"

                    "It's not big government when we like it!"

                    "Authoritarians for liberty!"

                    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                      It is for a fool who thinks that public schools are a marketplace for ideas instead of centers for indoctrination.

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      "marketplace of ideas" = "ideas that I like"
                      "indoctrination" = "ideas that I don't like"

                    3. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      “marketplace of ideas” = “ideas that I like”
                      “indoctrination” = “ideas that I don’t like”

                      Conservatives have been becoming more and more like the people they hate.

                      For example when the left says "tolerance" they mean that they do not tolerate intolerance, with intolerance meaning disagreement.

                      When they left says they are "inclusive" they mean they include everyone who agrees with them.

                      When the left talks of "equality" they mean they are superior to anyone who disagrees with them.

                      How are conservatives any different at this point?

                    4. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                      How are conservatives any different at this point?

                      More women with those creepy botox’ed lips.

                    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                      Holy shit, you turd flingers completely misread what I said.

                      A public school is not a marketplace for ideas. It is not intended to be. What it is intended to be is a place to present specific information to children and then test them to make sure they understood what was presented as it was presented. That is why it is so important that the information presented be factual and edifying.

                      The compulsory facet of public education creates a situation where, if the information being presented to children is speculative, dogmatic or propaganda, then it is actually indoctrination and not education. To be clear, I would include promoting libertarianism and espousing religious beliefs every bit as much as gender affirmation and critical race theory as to what constitutes indoctrination.

                      State lawmakers have a clear responsibility to interfere where children are being indoctrinated in public schools. That is not a decrease in freedom. It is an increase. If the legislation in question was restrictions on the teaching of creationism, you asshats would be all in.

                  2. JesseAz   2 years ago

                    Do you, sarc, and Mike all get together each morning and decide on what narratives you all will push? Because you all use the same disingenuous arguments daily here. Or do you just adopt each others deficiencies of thought?

                    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

                      One guy, three laptops in mommy's basement.

                  3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

                    Yup.

                  4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago (edited)

                    The correct libertarian thing to do is to ban transgenderism and force people who think they might be transgender into mental hospitals where they can be coerced into “becoming normal” for their own good, because otherwise they are a threat to society.

                    You just can’t help but exaggerate the position of your opponents as a violent dystopian nightmare while minimizing how repugnant your own is.

                    Chemical sterilization of children is a violation of the NAP, regardless of parental permission. So is normalizing children to divergent sexual behaviors. For fuck’s sake, if books titled “Billy Has 4 Moms” or “Mary got Married at 14” were being shared in a public classroom, you would recognize it for the abusive zealotry that it is. That shit does not belong in a classroom, and a libertarian should support measures to prevent the indoctrination of children.

                    There is absolutely nothing wrong with the body we are born with, regardless of what toys we like to play with, what clothes we enjoy wearing, or, once we reach puberty, to whom we are sexually attracted. Once we reach full maturity, we can have whatever plastic surgery we wish to pay for ourselves. THAT would be a libertarian outlook.

                    1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Chemical sterilization of children is a violation of the NAP, regardless of parental permission.

                      Got it. So all those parents who consent to chemotherapy and/or radiation treatment for treating their child's cancer (which very often leads to sterility), they are child abusers and violating the NAP.

                      Did you even think this one through?

                      So is normalizing children to divergent sexual behaviors.

                      Where is the aggression here? If a parent tells his/her kid "there's nothing wrong if you want to dress in drag", how precisely has the parent committed aggression against the child?

                      Seems as though, to you, "violations of the NAP" = "things I don't like"

                    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

                      For fuck’s sake, if books titled “Billy Has 4 Moms” or “Mary got Married at 14” were being shared in a public classroom, you would recognize it for the abusive zealotry that it is. That shit does not belong in a classroom,

                      What is abusive about it? I mean, I don’t agree with teaching kids that it’s okay to get married at 14. But I don’t think it’s *abusive* to *read a book* about it or to have a discussion about it in a classroom, public or not. When did ideas become equivalent to aggression?

                      Saaaay, are you one of those “words are violence” type of people?

                      and a libertarian should support measures to prevent the indoctrination of children.

                      Since "indoctrination" is a completely subjective term, no I don't want some government authority deciding from on high what is "indoctrination" and what is not. Such an idea is tantamount to having government-approved propaganda as curriculum instead.

                    3. JesseAz   2 years ago

                      Jeff thinks mental illness is just like cancer...

                    4. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

                      So, Jeffy, are there any parts of a child's body that a parent should NOT be allowed to cut off? Ears? Toes? Anything?

                    5. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                      So all those parents who consent to chemotherapy and/or radiation treatment for treating their child’s cancer (which very often leads to sterility), they are child abusers and violating the NAP.

                      It is disingenuous and downright disgusting to conflate giving puberty blockers to a healthy child and giving chemotherapy treatment to a dying child.

                      Seems as though, to you, “violations of the NAP” = “things I don’t like”

                      Preventing a child's body from naturally maturing is a violation. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you that you don't understand that? Is Joe Jackson your role model for a parent?

                    6. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                      Since “indoctrination” is a completely subjective term, no I don’t want some government authority deciding from on high what is “indoctrination” and what is not.

                      Indoctrination is hardly a subjective term. All faith-based instruction is indoctrination.

                      Such an idea is tantamount to having government-approved propaganda as curriculum instead.

                      Your reductionist absurdity has utterly exposed you. The curriculum I am criticizing was without question promulgated by unelected bureaucrats.

                    7. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      It is disingenuous and downright disgusting to conflate giving puberty blockers to a healthy child and giving chemotherapy treatment to a dying child.

                      But the child is not healthy. That is why the child is being prescribed puberty blockers.

                      Literally no one is advocating for giving puberty blockers to children who aren't transgender and show no signs of gender dysphoria.

                      Preventing a child’s body from naturally maturing is a violation.

                      How about this instead: A violation of the NAP would be an act of aggression. It's right there in the name: Non-Aggression Principle. For example, what if a child has to unfortunately undergo an amputation of a limb and so therefore the child's body will not naturally mature? Is that an act of aggression? It *could* be, but it is not *necessarily* the case that it is.

                      You keep wanting to broaden the definition of "aggression" to mean more like "icky things that I don't like". You don't like chemical sterilization or stopping the natural growth of a child? I don't like it either. But that doesn't make it *aggression* per se.

                      You even want to consider simply reading certain types of books to kids to be a type of "abusive zealotry". That is downright absurd. You didn't answer my question though - do you think words are violence?

                    8. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      Indoctrination is hardly a subjective term. All faith-based instruction is indoctrination.

                      Fine, then give me an objective standard for how to determine if a particular instructional material is "indoctrination". I bet you can't.

                      And my larger point is that if you want some Top Men in charge of deciding what material is INDOCTRINATION and what is not, you will in essence be creating government propaganda as the "accepted" material.

                    9. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

                      So, Jeffy, are there any parts of a child’s body that a parent should NOT be allowed to cut off? Ears? Toes? Anything?

                      How about this. We leave medical decisions involving children for treating valid medical conditions up to parents, doctors, counselors and therapists. They know far better what is in the child's best interest than Ron Fucking DeSantis or Joe Fucking Biden. Government's role can be to create regulations to ensure the decision-making is sound and the procedures follow an accepted standard of care. So if the government wants to require that there be a waiting period, and that there be multiple consultations, and that there be multiple opinions, and to require that all parties involved expressly give their affirmative consent with full knowledge of all of the risks involved, and to require that medical personnel strictly follow an established standard of care, then I would fully support that. But I can't support outright banning it. That goes too far in abrogating the liberty of the parents to decide what's best for their children.

                      As far as cutting off ears and toes: What if the child develops frostbite?

                    10. DesigNate   2 years ago

                      There’s a wide fucking difference between mentally unhealthy and physically unhealthy.

                      How the fuck have the supposed “real libertarians” fallen so far from when people here would argue that male circumcision was a violation of the NAP to saying puberty blockers and top or bottom surgery are totes ok?

                    11. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                      You keep wanting to broaden the definition of “aggression” to mean more like “icky things that I don’t like”

                      That is simply not true. I am very consistent. And while it is possible to passively interfere with someone, knowingly interfering is still aggression. The only reason I brought up NAP is because you so often appeal to it and I am, believe it or not, actually trying to persuade you, not just ridicule you.

                      You even want to consider simply reading certain types of books to kids to be a type of “abusive zealotry”. That is downright absurd.

                      It is not even remotely absurd. Reading kids books that explain how kids can best sexually pleasure adults would without question be "abusive zealotry".

                      Fine, then give me an objective standard for how to determine if a particular instructional material is “indoctrination”. I bet you can’t.

                      I already did. "...if the information being presented to children is speculative, dogmatic or propaganda, then it is actually indoctrination...". If you don't think those criteria are objective, then refute my argument, but you don't get to pretend I didn't present an honest argument.

                      Interesting that the thing that speculation, dogma and propaganda all have in common is that they are not objective. You seem to understand perfectly the point I am trying to make and yet you still deflect. It's like the agenda is more important you than any logical argument.

                      Literally no one is advocating for giving puberty blockers to children who aren’t transgender and show no signs of gender dysphoria.

                      That is a lie. Until recently, gender dysphoria has been an extremely rare disorder that presents after full sexual maturity. It is completely inappropriate and unethical to ascribe the condition to pre-pubescent children. Their brains are not mature enough to have developed those characteristics. We posted last week about psychologists diagnosing children as young as 2.

                    12. Vernon Depner   2 years ago (edited)

                      R Mac--I would assume Jeffy’s neighbors are wary of him. It’s hard to imagine someone that deranged not standing out.

                2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                  Do you ever look in a mirror and say that? You should.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    You ever look in the mirror and wonder why you're wearing Republican clown makeup?

                    1. Red Rocks White Privilege   2 years ago

                      If it hurts chemtard's side, it's automatically good.

      2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        It is the rest of the community saying: "Could you please keep your bedroom activities in the bedroom?"

  8. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

    Published in 1976, the committee's report confirmed some earlier stories that charged that the CIA had cultivated relationships with private institutions, including the press.[5] Without identifying individuals by name, the Church Committee stated that it found fifty journalists who had official, but secret, relationships with the CIA.[5] In a 1977 Rolling Stone magazine article, "The CIA and the Media,"[6] reporter Carl Bernstein expanded upon the Church Committee's report and wrote that more than 400 US press members had secretly carried out assignments for the CIA, including New York Times publisher Arthur Hays Sulzberger, columnist and political analyst Stewart Alsop and Time magazine.[5] Bernstein documented the way in which overseas branches of major US news agencies had for many years served as the "eyes and ears" of Operation Mockingbird, which functioned to disseminate CIA propaganda through domestic US media.[7]

  9. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    We Need to Stop Calling Breast-Feeding Natural
    https://slate.com/human-interest/2016/03/calling-breast-feeding-natural-may-be-fueling-anti-vaccine-fears.html

    There are currently no studies demonstrating a direct link between the promotion of breast-feeding as natural and the rise of parents who don’t vaccinate their children. Still, it’s not hard to find examples of how this unwavering, and often unfounded, preference for all things natural feeds such beliefs. One popular parenting writer whose blog is titled “Mama Natural,” says that instead of vaccines she finds “natural and gentle ways to boost [her son’s] immunity.” Or as a mom explains in the documentary film The Vaccine War: “As a parent, I would rather see my child get a natural illness and contract that the way that illnesses have been contracted for at least 200,000 years that homo sapiens have been around.”

    Martucci and Barnhill also point out that to describe breast-feeding as natural is to make a number of assumptions about gender roles and family life. Are two gay dads raising their child unnaturally if they formula-feed? What about a family who adopts? Or a mom who can’t or doesn’t want to breast-feed? Surely, these are all environments in which a baby could thrive.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Breasts were designed by nature to provide milk to infants.
      It really can’t get any more natural than that.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Excuse me. Man silicon tits are natural too. Bigot.

      2. SRG   2 years ago

        ^^^ Precisely so.

      3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

        There was a movement in the 50's to discourage breast feeding. It could have been cooked up by Nestles.

        1. SRG   2 years ago

          It could have been cooked up by Nestles.

          And lo!

          https://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Professionalism/The_Nestl%C3%A9_Infant_Formula_Scandal

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      "Are two gay dads raising their child unnaturally if they formula-feed? "

      Well, yes, but also since they are raising the child with 2 dads, which is not natural.

      It feels extremely retarded to have to state that, but a mother and father bring different and important things to the family. Are 2 dads better than 1 mom or 1 dad? Probably. The second person being there as support is huge. But being raised with one parent (or both) being an effeminate man is not natural or healthy.

      1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

        Yes, two men cannot produce a child themselves. This means they have adopted an orphan or have deliberately deprived the child of a mother.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Wait, haven’t I seen several comments here recently, in the context of abortion bans, saying that adoption is the answer for unwanted babies? Now adoptive parents are “depriv[ing] the child of a mother”?

          1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

            Now adoptive parents are “depriv[ing] the child of a mother”?

            Are you being stupid, deliberately obtuse, or both? That is not what he implied at all. He implied that two men adopting deprives the child of a mother. If an adoptive parent is a woman, she is a mother.

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            2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago (edited)

              You are not incorrect, but I was thinking more that the child was produced by artificial insemination with a surrogate mother type situation. That is, the child was deliberately conceived with the intent of not having a mother.

    3. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

      What the fuck do they expect us to do, regurgitate food like birds!?! We're mammals, for fuck's sake. That means the female lactates for the young.

    4. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      It is fascinating that they consider describing how human biology works accurately is some kind of a negative judgment on family circumstances which do not conform to base biological norms. It indicates a deep insecurity about the corrrctness of their moral philosophy.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Men and women can't be the same (as would be ideal for their ideology) if men and women are constantly being proven by their biology to be very different.

        Biology is really interfering with their gaslighting

    5. perlmonger   2 years ago

      > Are two gay dads raising their child unnaturally if they formula-feed?

      Yes. Next questions?

    6. Rockstevo   2 years ago

      Where are the lactation nazi's? Used to be if you mentioned anything but breast feeding being good 100 angry women would be outside picketing you.

  10. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Why Waking Up Early Is Rooted in White Supremacy
    https://medium.com/@anthonybernardi/why-waking-up-early-is-rooted-in-white-supremacy-f487b04376f1

    1. Anomalous   2 years ago

      Early to bed and early to rise
      Make a man healthy, wealthy and white.

      1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

        When I was in school, it went
        "Early to bed, early to rise, your girl goes out with other guys".

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Does that logic make you black for sleeping in? Sounds kind of racist.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        Colored people time: not racist anymore I guess?

    3. VinniUSMC   2 years ago

      In solidarity, I hereby declare that I will no longer be waking up before 8 am. I will no longer be the sleepy face of white supremacy. Who's with me?!

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Unfortunately, standing up against white supremacy has roots in white supremacy.

    4. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      So it is now not racist to say that that non white people are lazy?

      The 21st century is damned confusing.

      1. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        A good rule of thumb is just look back to whatever racist attitudes a caricature of an old timey actual racist had...those are now in fashion to the 'woke'

  11. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Danish 17-year-old girl who used a pepper spray to fight off a rapist near migrant asylum centre is told SHE will be prosecuted for carrying the weapon
    The 17-year-old was targeted by a man refugee as she walked through Sonderborg
    She was knocked to the ground by the attacker who tried to undress her
    But she used pepper spray on the man to bring the assault to an end
    As pepper spray is illegal in Denmark officials say she will be prosecuted
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3418751/Danish-17-year-old-girl-used-pepper-spray-fight-rapist-near-migrant-asylum-centre-told-prosecuted-carrying-weapon.html

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      They want us to feel horrified and helpless in the Weimar stage.

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Just accept anything anyone does to you, says the state.

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Self defense is white supremacy. Cultural knife fights are not.

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      Wow!
      My wife carries (pepper-spray) in SF specifically because it is legal.

      1. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

        My wife does too. Not that she could ever find it in that black hole she calls a purse.

    4. Illocust   2 years ago

      Raid for home defense. Bug spray for out in public. If you have to use it, just say you were carrying it for innocent reasons and panicked when attacked.

    5. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      only a completely emasculated society controlled by promiscuous harridans could ban pepper spray. What a bunch of tools.

    6. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      On the other hand, this is actually super based, from the article. There are still some men left in Denmark

      "This has prompted several nightclubs in Sonderborg to bar people from entering unless they can speak Danish, German or English.

      The language requirements have reportedly been put in place in several establishments in the wake of reports of 'foreign men in groups' harassing female guests.

      Buddy Holly, a night club in Sønderborg, near the German border, popular with local students, applies a language policy for all guests, and the owner defends it as a safety measure.

      'We have some rules so that our guests can have a pleasant experience and feel safe,' owner Tom Holden told TV2, adding that it has been the club's policy for years."

    7. perlmonger   2 years ago

      I hope the prosecutor's daughter has a "surprise cultural enrichment experience" some day.

    8. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

      I wonder what laursen thinks? This sounds like a “conservative victimhood narrative” if I ever heard one.

      Of course, there was an actual victim. That poor rapist migrant. Hope his eyes are ok.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A group of Chinese citizens who live in Florida are suing over the state's ban on most citizens of China, Cuba, Venezuela, Syria, Iran, Russia, or North Korea buying property in the state.

    I applaud wanting to flee commie or one-party dictatorships like China or Venezuela or New York to the freedom Florida affords, but I can also understand Florida wanting to limit a locust infestation.

  13. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Bombshell: Biden Justice Department formally shut down Clinton Foundation “investigation” in August, 2021. FBI destroyed all evidence.
    https://www.investmentwatchblog.com/bombshell-biden-justice-department-formally-shut-down-clinton-foundation-investigation-in-august-2021-fbi-destroyed-all-evidence/

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      And then nothing happened.

    2. Ronbback   2 years ago (edited)

      I’m curious since when did the FBI ever get rid of evidence, other than to hide criminality and is it even legal to get rid of evidence

  14. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Two Weeks at the Front in Ukraine
    https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2023/05/29/two-weeks-at-the-front-in-ukraine

    On February 24, 2022, Volodymyr Zelensky, the President of Ukraine, declared a general mobilization for male citizens between the ages of eighteen and sixty. Civilians of all stripes flocked to military-registration offices, eager to fight. Some waited in line for days, only to be told that no more men were required. Today, popular support for resisting rather than negotiating with Russia remains high, but, as in every war, the burden of sacrifice has fallen increasingly on the underprivileged. Nearly every draftee I met in the trenches had been a manual laborer—farmer, carpenter, dockworker, plumber—and stories abounded of Ukrainians with means dodging conscription through graft or nepotism. “You could find people from the higher classes in the infantry at the beginning of the war,” one veteran told me. “But, after a year, you don’t see an end to this—your chances of dying are higher, you’re fucking tired. Now most of the people are being drafted.”

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Where did all the money go? Ukraine's organized military loses major stronghold city to Russian mercenaries
      $150 billion later, Americans remain with unanswered questions about Kiev's stumbling armed forces.
      https://www.dossier.today/p/where-did-all-the-money-go-ukraines

      Americans have been looted for well over one hundred billion dollars and the Slava Slush Fund’s biggest promoters are noticeably silent while attempting to spin Ukraine’s military defeat in Bakhmut to a Russian mercenary network. Where exactly did that $150 billion in U.S. taxpayer supplied aid end up, and when, if ever, will the people in charge consider striking a peace deal to the benefit of humanity?

  15. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    They're prepping us for climate lockdowns:

    Turns Out We're All Thinking It – Here's How Many Of Us Miss Lockdown Life
    https://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/entry/turns-out-were-all-thinking-it-heres-how-many-of-us-miss-lockdown-life_uk_641b2271e4b0a3902d3429a2

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      They miss work from home. Not lockdowns. Offices suck. Which is why you have to be paid to be there.

    2. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

      Also coming soon:

      "Its OK to admit it: The bugs really do taste just as good as a ribeye"

      Propagandist gaslighting turned up to 11

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Followed closely by "10 Easy Ways to Decorate your Pod to Support Your LGBTQQIP2SA Allies"

    3. damikesc   2 years ago

      Also unsaid --- "Well, except for the proles who deliver my food to me and all"

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        Costal based tech firms deserve a cut of the $$ when you order from a local business in flyover country. Its the tribute we pay to our betters.

  16. JesseAz   2 years ago

    IRS commissioner confirms IRS agents were removed from Hunter case at the request of the DoJ. Reminder it was just a few weeks ago Hunters lawyers met with the DoJ.

    https://www.foxnews.com/politics/irs-commissioner-denies-intervention-retaliate-against-whistleblowers-connected-hunter-biden-complaint

  17. Illocust   2 years ago

    "Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints."

    Heard about this. Honestly it's a good thing, because it shows that stores are paying attention to what their customers want. It might if we're lucky show a return of customer focused marketing and decision making.

    1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Nope they are only pulling the trannie clothing which is opposite of gay

    2. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

      Some great thinking from Target's directors.

      https://www.foxnews.com/us/target-urged-to-end-transgender-bathroom-policy-after-2nd-man-caught-recording-women-undressing

  18. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Often referenced "masks do harm" study retracted.

    Oh my fucking GAWD are we going to go back to worshiping The Mask as a deity? Are we going back to "if there's even a chance it saves a life what's the harm?" situation?

    1. rev-arthur-l-kuckland   2 years ago

      Probably retracted due to political threats

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      That would be a massive overreaction to this retraction.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Cite?

    3. Overt   2 years ago (edited)

      This study was released in April of 2023. One study, among many other studies showing the harms of masks, let alone the Claremont Review of masks that showed they are useless in preventing the spread of COVID.

      Notice how the Blue-Check Twitterati, including ENB, are quick to spread this retraction to the four winds. ENB has had very little to nothing to say about masking mandates and the related science.

      Well, she did have something to say- about how they are a good thing. "If we want authorities to actually allow commerce and freedom of movement again, and to avoid top-down impositions of protective-gear rules, we should be encouraging people to voluntarily adopt mask-wearing."

      https://reason.com/2020/05/05/masks-can-be-a-symbol-of-privacy-and-personal-responsibility-not-tyranny/?comments=true#comments

      But the second that 1 single study goes in the direction of her preferences, she is endorsing these pre-emptive “If anyone disagrees, they are furthering conspiracy theories” tweets. Yeesh.

      1. MT-Man   2 years ago

        For years you could train cardio wearing a mask for brief periods of time to make yourself work harder. Somehow that knowledge has been lost and we can't even talk about extended restricted breathing harms.

  19. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    So, did anyone watch Season 3 of Picard, where enemies of the Federation who can pass as trusted normies set up another enemy to try to destroy everything just for the sake of destruction by hijacking the brains of everyone under 25, because their brains aren't fully developed yet, and old people who could resist that had to save the day?

    1. Yes Way, Ted   2 years ago

      Yeah, the third season was crappy, but not as crappy as the first season.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Nerds!

    2. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Did they slowly nudge the enterprise with a transport ship, pulling out a nazi flag, only to find out it was a ferange piloting the transport ship?

  20. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Florida Republican Gov. Ron DeSantis is reportedly slated to announce his presidential bid tomorrow during a conversation with Twitter CEO Elon Musk.

    When fascism meets apartheid.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Finally we will get some DeSantis criticism articles here.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Instead of the daily hit pieces?

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        I have to say, I didn't get in on the DeSantis Stossel article earlier today, but it was a remarkably good amount of reporting, with room for a lot of discussion, instead of press releases from Shackford and NAMBLA.

        I think DeSantis has good potential, but members of the right should absolutely be willing to yank the chains on him when he and his state go overboard.

        This is one of the big problems with many people on the Left- they let Biden literally mandates personal healthcare decisions rather than admit that people on the Right were, er, right.

        1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

          The article was mostly positive, but fair. The headline/title was a bit misleading- you could tell it was not Stossel who came up with it

        2. Longtobefree   2 years ago

          Any and all leftists are free to depart Florida at any time.
          We don't have a exit tax here.

  21. Yes Way, Ted   2 years ago

    My neighbor (and my best friend) from middle school to high school moved from Mexico to remote NE California on a green card to do agricultural work. He and his family worked hard in the fields.

    My current neighbor moved from Mexico illegally as a child. Apparently her mom was a single parent. They got on WIC, AFDC, SNAP, etc. She admits this on her campaign website. This explains her lack of respect for our property boundaries. Oh, and she was also appointed by the governor as an diversity, inclusion, and equity (DIE) something or another making $110k a year.

    We need more of the first kind of immigrant (hard working) and fewer of the second type (looking for state handouts). Until we can better discriminate, the border needs to be closed.

    Cry all you want, but this is how the world works. I can't just move to Australia. If I break their immigration laws and am caught, it's prison.

    Enough is enough. Secure the border. Now.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      Enough is enough. Secure the border. Now.

      Give it up already.

      A previous President made that the centerpiece of his campaign and failed with a majority House and Senate.

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        How did he fail?

        1. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies; any answer you get will be a lie. turd lies; it's what turd does.

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        Remember that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

      3. Yes Way, Ted   2 years ago

        GFYS

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago (edited)

      Enough is enough. Secure the border. Now.

      Okay, how?

      Build the whole wall? Fine, then you’ll have to have guards continually maintain the whole thing, *and* be willing to let the guards use lethal force on people trying to cross it. Because those are the only conditions under which “walls work”. There is no way any government, not even Trump, is going to authorize border guards to shoot penniless Guatemalans whose only ‘crime’ is crossing a wall.

      Oh, and finishing the wall will mean the government will literally have to steal land (use eminent domain) from property owners to do so.

      Make it illegal to hire illegal immigrants? Already done. How much more illegal do you want to make it? Make it illegal for companies to do business of any kind with illegal immigrants – can’t rent to them, sell them food or give them medical care? Then you are consigning them to horrible ghettos. Again you will not have public support for this the moment we have news footage of migrants who are starving because it’s illegal to sell them food.

      Oh and let’s not forget that these measures represent infringements of American individuals’ property rights and free association rights. But we’ve already crossed that bridge, haven’t we?

      What exactly do you want to do to ‘secure the border’?

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        Didn't Spermin' Herman Cain propose a 1500-mile moat filled with alligators?

        That guy was ahead of his time.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          How to say you're a racist, Pluggo, without actually stating you're a racist openly.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
          If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
          turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a TDS-addled asshole

      2. Yes Way, Ted   2 years ago

        "What exactly do you want to do to ‘secure the border’?"

        I mentioned Australia, which has stiff penalties for breaking immigration law. Work camps. Prison. Deportation. Better border security. All of it. Now.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Rat the governor out for hiring an illegal.
      Federal labor law violation and all that jazz.

    4. Moderation4ever   2 years ago

      The fact that the single mother took assistance does not mean that she did not also work, and work hard. There working poor and they deserve help.

      1. Yes Way, Ted   2 years ago

        They came here for benefits, plain and simple. Free loaders. Then go and get a taxpayer funded do-noting sinecure.

        They need to GTFO.

  22. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Durham under pressure from conservatives for allowing key players to avoid testifying during the investigation. Names like Comey.

    https://justthenews.com/government/congress/calls-durham-testify-congress-findings-russia-probe-report-are-growing

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Can't imagine why people think the system is rigged and distrust the 2020 result.

      1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

        I can't imagine anyone being held accountable.

  23. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    The South Carolina Senate approved a bill Tuesday that would ban most abortions after around six weeks of pregnancy—before most people know they are pregnant...

    Thank you for hiding your biases, Associated Press.

  24. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    "I love the pageantry. I love the camp. I love the silliness of it. My daughter is the same way. It's fun. It's a really good time," she said.

    Sorry. Your new Christo-Fascist master says that Trannie-Dancing is a sin and is now verboten.

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Yeah, no surprises that you'd heartily support children's strip tease.

      1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        No surprise that you see a Big Government solution to every "problem".

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Please, tell us again what got your original handle, "Sarah Palin's Buttplug" banned from Reason and why you use a similar one now with a "2" after it. The world is awaiting that enlightenment.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit, a TDS-addled asshole and a pederast besides.

        3. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Big Government solution to every “problem”.

          Plug classifies pedophilia as a "problem", which is new. Should private business take over dealing with your sort?

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      You know that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Because they love your kids more than you do!

      1. damikesc   2 years ago

        Sexually, maybe.

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          You do realize that you just said “sexually maybe” in reference to those Buttplug calls “Christo-Fascists”, not in reference to progressive parents who take their kids to drag shows?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago (edited)

            You’ve been around here long enough. You’ve seen Pluggo get banned for CP links. Either you’re really stupid, or really obtuse.

  25. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    A bill that would have required Texas schools to display the Ten Commandments in all classrooms failed to advance in the state's GOP-controlled House.

    It's on the government then when 3rd graders start coveting each others wives.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      George Carlin took all the religious sap out of the 10 Commandments and reduced it to just one Supreme Commandment.

      I'm okay with displaying that one.

      I can't remember what it was though.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        I’m okay with displaying that one.

        I can’t remember what it was though.

        Just LOL!

      2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        I thought he reduced them to two.

        1) Always be faithful to the source of thy nookie.

        2) Try really hard not to kill anyone unless they worship a different invisible man than you do.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Good enough.

          Carlin gets Honorary Libertarian status although I think our MAGA pals don't like him.

          1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

            Carlin was not pro-life, and according to our MAGA pals if you don't want to murder abortion doctors then you're a leftist. That puts Carlin squarely in the hardcore-leftist camp.

            1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

              Do you realize you are rapidly approaching SPB2/shrike territory? Absolutely no one has ever claimed that. You are not clever, funny, effective, truthful, neutral, or libertarian

            2. JesseAz   2 years ago

              Cite?

              What's with all the strawmen this morning? You having a break down?

            3. DesigNate   2 years ago

              No they haven’t sarc. You can disagree with them without spouting retarded bullshit.

          2. damikesc   2 years ago

            For his last few years, Carlin was not even good enough to qualify as a hack. He was once funny. He then became a bore.

            His career arc seems to mirror Late Night TV. Once funny but then, a tedious bore that nobody actually gives a shit about.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              The Venn Diagram of people who hate Carlin and people who take personal offense at anything critical of the political right would be a solid circle.

              1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                Kamala might like that.

                1. JesseAz   2 years ago

                  Sarc has the same mental capacity as Kamala for sure.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    I wasn't aware it was quite that expansive.

                2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                  Um, ok. Trying to figure out why I could possibly care about anything that woman thinks. Nope. Got nothing.

                  1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

                    And Sarc completely misses the Venn diagram joke.

                    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                      That was a joke? I thought you were making a serious comment about her being the AI czar or something.

            2. Super Scary   2 years ago

              "Once funny but then, a tedious bore that nobody actually gives a shit about."

              Yeah, once a comedian begins to preach more than tell jokes, I switch off.

              1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                Once you judge entertainment by the politics of the entertainer you don't leave yourself with many options.

                1. Super Scary   2 years ago

                  Didn't say anything about his politics, but keep chasing those windmills I guess.

                  1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

                    When everything is political it is implied.

                    1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

                      You are the only one who put political reactions to Carlin ITT, idiot

            3. Fats of Fury   2 years ago

              Carlin's appearances on Ed Sullivan when he was starting out were lame and sometimes cringeworthy.

          3. Sevo   2 years ago

            We all know that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
            If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
            turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

          4. Sevo   2 years ago (edited)
      3. Sevo   2 years ago

        Don't forget that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

  26. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Reason's Natalie Dowzicky donated her bone marrow for free.

    Why buy the cow...?

    1. Overt   2 years ago

      Bravo. You are a god damn national treasure. Now I need to clean the coffee off my monitor.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        Your monitor got what it deserved.

  27. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Video of Hunter College professor who destroyed a pro life display on campus holding machete up to Post reporters neck.

    https://twitter.com/nypost/status/1661066233255542810

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Rwanda.

    2. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

      Leftists are paragons of sanity.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        We must trust all teachers. They are experts to our children. - all democrats like Jeff.

    3. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      Simple.

      Bang! Bang! Bang!
      Picks up brass, and walks away.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        New York. Duty to retreat for reporter.

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          Yep.

          Picks up brass, and walks away.

      2. Ronbback   2 years ago

        Use a revolver for that sort of thing, that way no time is wasted picking up brass

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          Who carries a wheel gun for SD?

          1. perlmonger   2 years ago

            I have in the past. Sweet little S&W Model 10 with a 4" bbl.

      3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Curious why you are fantasizing about gun violence, specifically, when there is only violence. Why didn’t you go for pointy sticks or something as your fantasy weapon of choice?

        1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

          Disingenuous Mikey strikes again. Again, only leftists say "gun violence", proving everyone's point about you.

          What's your problem with self defense?
          An "activist" points a machete at your throat and nothing? No violation of the NAP killing in self-defense. Bonus removing a violent leftist from the census rolls.

          1. perlmonger   2 years ago

            Gun violence is a perfectly respectable response to machete violence.

          2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

            What did I say that indicates I have a problem with self defense?

            I’m just highlighting your inconsistency.

    4. Super Scary   2 years ago

      It's part of their culture, don't be so closed minded.

  28. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Watch: New CNN poll finds Joe Biden's approval rating is lower than any president since Jimmy Carter at this point in their presidencies

    That's a CNN poll. Imagine how low he must actually be.

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      It was +7 D too.

      1. Illocust   2 years ago

        It won't matter. He didn't campaign and they elected him last time. Dems give zero shits.

  29. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Scientific American is Now the Bud Light of Science Journals

    Magazine’s editor-In-chief Laura Helmuth slammed for peddling gender pseudoscience.

    1. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

      She wrote "science" for Slate and WaPo. Classic DEI candidate.

    2. SRG   2 years ago

      SciAm has deffo gone down the drain in the last few years.

  30. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Never Forget, Never Forgive, Never Again

    “Latterly, there’s a movement afoot by those who brought you the continuing Covid disaster to feign remorse over what they did. Don’t buy a word of it.
    These crocodiles — a cabal of frightened women and pusillanimous yet power hungry men — enjoyed every minute of your misery, even as they swan about on their mini non-apology tours and warn direly about the next iteration of the Black Death that is surely headed our (but not their) way. Meanwhile, they’re allowed to quietly resign and cash in their enormous pensions, courtesy of you.”

    1. Overt   2 years ago

      They aren't even feigning remorse. Their statements are all along the lines of, "I'm sorry you feel that way," mixed with, "it wasn't really that bad, so why linger on it?"

      1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

        "The internment camps weren't extermination camps so your concerns are invalid" - sarcasmic

  31. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Macron's order to hang his portrait in the administration of each city larger than 1,500 residents.
    Locals are glad to oblige [video]

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Should also be upside down.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        And facing the wall.

  32. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints.

    Are these complainers afraid they're going to get fooled???

    1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      Sexualized kids wear, essentially transgender children's lingerie.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

        It was kids' clothing???

        1. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

          Yeah. Sexy "tuck" lacey undies for 5 - 10 year old boys to hide their tiny weenies.

          1. DesigNate   2 years ago

            So it wasn’t really LGB clothing, just T-themed.

            If there was any sanity left in the world, the LGB’s would be metaphorically and verbally kicking the shit out of the T’s for trying to genocide them and turn the entire culture agains them.

    2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Don’t know, but apparently it wasn’t good enough for these complainers that they could have simply not bought any of the merchandise.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Now do guns.

      2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        Riiight. Let’s see them sell Swastika onezies

      3. Cronut   2 years ago

        Apparently it's good enough for the Rainbow Army to just be fully normalized, accepted, and generally ignored in society, just like everyone else.

        1. Cronut   2 years ago

          *not good enough

      4. Mother's Lament   2 years ago (edited)

        “but apparently it wasn’t good enough for these complainers that they could have simply not bought any of the merchandise.”

        Imagine whining about kids lingerie, huh Mike? Because that's what they were actually selling, not just rainbow onesies.

        1. perlmonger   2 years ago

          The "Frederick's of Hollywood Kindergarten Collection".

      5. Overt   2 years ago

        It shouldn't have to be said, but good businesses tend to care about what their customers think. They also tend to nurture a brand in order to foster customer loyalty. If Target was damaging their brand, and costing themselves customers, it is a Good Thing (tm) that customers were willing to explain why.

        But this just shows the mendacity of Mike. He claims to be a reasonable libertarian, but when customers and a business make a decision that doesn't further his Kulture Warz BS, he has to make a process argument.

        1. DesigNate   2 years ago

          But don’t you dare call him a leftist.

    3. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      Still waiting for the outrage at the cultural appropriation involved in stealing the Jewish/Christian rainbow.

      (And just for the record, pride is a sin too)

      1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

        Huh? Rainbows are Judeo-Christian?!

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          12 And God said, “This is the sign of the covenant I am making between me and you and every living creature with you, a covenant for all generations to come: 13 I have set my rainbow in the clouds, and it will be the sign of the covenant between me and the earth. 14 Whenever I bring clouds over the earth and the rainbow appears in the clouds, 15 I will remember my covenant between me and you and all living creatures of every kind. Never again will the waters become a flood to destroy all life. 16 Whenever the rainbow appears in the clouds, I will see it and remember the everlasting covenant between God and all living creatures of every kind on the earth.”

          1. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

            "Next time I destroy you and the Earth for sins I knew you would commit anyway and when I made you born in Original Sin, it's gonna be fire!"--JHVH-1 via The Book of Revelation.

            1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

              Jehovah seems to have been modeled on a typical narcissistic, abusive, alcoholic father.

              "The Old Testament is the story of God's childhood."—Michael Gellert.

      2. TheReEncogitationer   2 years ago

        Got a Copyright, Patent, and/or Trademark to prove that?

  33. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    The biggest threat to our military just might be DEI indoctrination

    a large group of retired senior military officers — generals and admirals all — is raising the alarm on the pernicious influence of “woke” ideology in military DEI programs.

    In an open letter addressed to House Speaker Kevin McCarthy, Minority Leader Hakeem Jeffries and the Armed Services Committee and Defense Appropriations Subcommittee chairmen, they warn the pursuit of diversity, equity and inclusion, and political correctness generally, is getting in the way of the military’s actual mission: to fight and win wars and, by being able to do so, deter adversaries from starting anything.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Cool, so WWIII will kill DEI supporters....

  34. Spiritus Mundi   2 years ago

    A Florida hamburger joint is suing over the state's anti–drag show law.

    This is the same place that has 6 year olds performing drag. Notice how they 'can't' operate without children present. This is totally about selling burgers and not at all about grooming kids in LBGTQ lifestyles.

    https://floridianpress.com/2023/05/drag-show-venue-suing-desantis-gave-6-year-old-drag-name-asked-him-to-perform/

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      A similar thing happened with parades too. They literally said "Oh, we can't have children in our drag/pride parade? We're taking our ball and going home!"

      Like...why do you need children there?

      1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        yeah that was.... illuminating

  35. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

    Joe Biden isn't speaking coherently enough to fact-check him

    Watch: President Biden rambles unintelligibly for 40 seconds...

    What if he's actually mean tweeting but we don't speak the language.

    1. Quicktown Brix   2 years ago

      He did manage to say the complete sentence "I was able to balance the budget." Can we get a fact check on that?

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Which is a lie. Biden has never balanced the budget.

  36. JesseAz   2 years ago

    , gives state agencies the power to shut down or revoke the liquor licenses of businesses that allow minors to see an "adult live performance." Hamburger Mary's, which allows minors at its drag brunch on Sundays, is suing.

    Stripping in front of kids is the most important thing.

    Why is the left so hard up on stripping in front of kids, performing provocative sexual dances in front of kids?

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

      Stripping in front of kids is the most important thing.

      The. most. important. thing.

      Hamburger Mary’s Chicago restaurant closed for health code violations – City news site reports violations for “mouse droppings” throughout building

      The news site reports that the Andersonville restaurant was cited by the Chicago Department of Public Health for the presence of mouse droppings on all three levels of the building at 5400 N. Clark Street.

      The city report also charges the restaurant with storing food at improperly high temperatures; failing to protect food from contamination; and heavy grease accumulation; among others, according to DNAinfo.com.

      Split the difference: say it’s a trans-caper, and call it a day.

  37. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Colder and darker.

    https://www.spiked-online.com/2023/05/24/the-eu-is-deepening-the-energy-crisis/

    As I show in ‘Lights Out: Is the EU Failing on Energy Policy?’, a new white paper published this week, the EU’s commitment to green objectives is not only harming businesses, it is also deepening Europe’s energy crisis. The main problem is that instead of trying to improve energy production – save for subsidising and incentivising renewables – the EU is investing almost all of its political capital in trying to cut corporate and personal energy consumption.

    Apparently, these cuts need to be made to fight the so-called climate emergency. In Brussels, there is no talk of how best to maximise coal or gas production, and no will to build new nuclear reactors. All of which are desperately needed to help keep Europe’s lights on. Energy policy has become entirely subservient to climate policy, regardless of the consequences.

  38. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    Looks like another day of the "Republican's bad" roundup. Vox readers glad to see they can cancel their sub and just come here for the same coverage

    1. JesseAz   2 years ago

      Look at who ENB retweets. Vox, Tay Tay, NYT.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        I've yet to see any Mastodon links from her.

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        dont forget Matt Yglesias and Dave Weigel. Are there two bigger dunces in the world of smug punditry? hard to say. (facepalm)

    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      No shit. Why can't they do articles about big things like domestic spying, indefinite emergencies and pension abuse, or even little things like food regulations? Nope. They ignore abuses of power by Democrats and only talk bad about Republicans. Fucking leftists.

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      You don’t need to torture yourself by continuing to frequent this site.

      1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

        You kidding? He comes here to get a dopamine boost he gets when he puts down Reason and attacks libertarians for being leftists. Some people only feel good when they believe they are harming others.

        1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

          Ideas!

      2. damikesc   2 years ago

        Few of us read her articles.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          She writes articles? I could've sworn she just made sandwiches.

        2. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Are you donating anything to the Reason Foundation or just free riding on Reason’s website?

          1. damikesc   2 years ago

            I'm donating exactly what their writing warrants.

            1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

              Traditionally, free riding is anathema to libertarians and conservatives.

  39. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Blasting Covid lockdown policies.

    https://www.thecentersquare.com/national/article_8b65a7dc-f9b5-11ed-94d2-23a5041d54f6.html

    The U.S. Supreme Court on Thursday effectively dismissed a lawsuit filed by a coalition of Republican attorneys general, who argued the public health authority Title 42 should remain in place. Attached to the court’s one-sentence decision, Justice Neil Gorsuch issued a seven-page blistering rebuke of federal, state and local coronavirus-era lockdown policies, arguing they were the “greatest intrusions on civil liberties in the peacetime history of this country.”

    Justice Neil Gorsuch summarized the two years of litigation in a seven-page blistering rebuke against COVID-era mandates, arguing they weren’t really about the coronavirus. When the Supreme Curt ruled to keep Title 42 in place, he dissented, he said, because “the current border crisis is not a COVID crisis.”

    In his rebuke released last week, Gorsuch said, “the Court took a serious misstep when it effectively allowed nonparties to this case to manipulate our docket to prolong an emergency decree designed for one crisis in order to address an entirely different one” and the court’s dismissal “goes some way to correcting that error.”

    He also said, “the history of this case illustrates the disruption we have experienced over the last three years in how our laws are made and our freedoms observed.

    “They divided cities and neighborhoods into color-coded zones, forced individuals to fight for their freedoms in court on emergency timetables, and then changed their color-coded schemes when defeat in court seemed imminent,” referring to California and New York lockdowns that violated the First Amendment rights of faith-based organizations, which the court ruled was unconstitutional.

    “Make no mistake,” he concluded, “decisive executive action is sometimes necessary and appropriate. But if emergency decrees promise to solve some problems, they threaten to generate others. And rule by indefinite emergency edict risks leaving all of us with a shell of a democracy and civil liberties just as hollow.”

  40. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

    " "...complaints were valid ... the article does not meet the standards of editorial & scientific soundness..."

    Will likely live on as a zombie & retraction part of a conspiracy narrative."

    How about instead of focusing on a "masks do harm" study that is supposedly bunk, we focus on the extremely authoritarian "masks are good, and necessary" studies that were bunk, and were made public policy regardless by nanny state wanna be dictators.

    Any interest in that on a libertarian site? Or do we just dunk on those evil conservatives who are bad because they dare resist govt dictats

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      They're not interested because they're really Democrats. All those article where they're critical of Biden and Democrats don't exist. And when they're critical of conservatives it's because they're Democrats. Yup. Look at those leftists at Reason, always complaining about conservatives while never a critical word about the other side. Fucking leftists.

      /what most people in the comments really believe

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Cite?

    2. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

      STUDY: Masks are harmful!
      TEAM RED: See! See! We're right! Even Science agrees with us! You can't argue with Science! We are going to repeat and retweet and repost this study ad infinitum until everyone is made aware of how harmful masks are and how even Science has come around to this conclusion!

      STUDY RETRACTED: Whoopsie, we goofed!
      TEAM RED: Eh that study wasn't so important after all. What's really important were all those mandates! Let's talk about those!

      1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago (edited)

        He’s Totally a Libertarian, guys

      2. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Now show those studies showing them as being useful? Oddly you seem really obsessed with continuing to defend the mask mandates.

      3. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

        "TEAM RED: Eh that study wasn’t so important after all. What’s really important were all those mandates! Let’s talk about those!"

        I mean...yes. Absolutely. Mandates were based on faulty science and incorrect information that the left pushed, that masks work and are necessary to keep grandma from dying. The team defending freedom and sanity was absolutely correct in pushing this point.

        You really cant even pretend to be libertarian and argue against their point.

        Libertarians for authoritarianism based on lied-about 'science'?

    3. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Not “supposedly bunk”. It was retracted. That means it is bunk.

      1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

        It was retracted. That means it is bunk.

        That is not what it means at all.

        This retraction was approved by the Chief Editors of Frontiers in Public Health and the Chief Executive Editor of Frontiers. The authors did not agree to this retraction.

        You just can't resist dissembling.

      2. Overt   2 years ago

        Oh stop, Mike.

        For the past 3 god damn years you, Chemjeff and others have been running around trying to beat people over the head with The Science (tm) to excuse away constant government excess. And you have been laughably wrong that entire time- pushing lies like "variants would be stopped if everyone vaccinated".

        It is no fucking surprise that Mike and his like are nowhere to be seen when an article pops up highlighting that fact. For example the article commenting on Gorsuch's opinion had none of these guys, because it would require them being in the uncomfortable position of having to answer for 3 years of their mendacious bullshit.

        But the second one study goes the OTHER way, Mike is here to do victory laps, pretending that he has some impartial handle on the truth. What a joke.

        Go tell us more about how ivermectin overdoses are filling up hospitals, Mike.

  41. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    The SS Titanic Presidency.

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/irs-coverup-of-hunter-biden-could-be-scandal-that-sinks-a-presidency/

    Monday, a special agent in the IRS’s international tax and financial crimes group who had spent five years investigating Hunter Biden also filed a whistleblower complaint on the Biden case.

    Rather than respecting the concerns of veteran investigators, “the IRS responded with accusations of criminal conduct and warnings to other agents in an apparent attempt to intimidate into silence anyone who might raise similar concerns,” according to Mark Lytle and Tristian Leavitt, lawyers for the first whistleblower.

    The IRS began formally investigating Hunter in 2018; by January 2020, a team of a dozen IRS employees were working on his case. As early as summer 2020, the IRS supervisor whistleblower notified his superiors about the Justice Department’s “irregularities” in the case.

    If Hunter had been charged with tax violations prior to the 2020 election, his father might have lost the race because it would have bolstered Donald Trump’s charges of Joe Biden’s corruption.

    The IRS supervisor whistleblower asserts that Attorney General Garland falsely testified to Congress in March when he said the US attorney supervising the Hunter Biden prosecution, David Weiss, could file charges even for alleged crimes that occurred beyond Delaware (Weiss’ jurisdiction). Hunter’s tax crimes could span the globe.

    The House Ways and Means Committee will hear the IRS whistleblowers in a closed hearing Friday. Democratic members of Congress will probably zero in on whether either whistleblower ever owned or wore a MAGA hat.

    1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      “Nobody fucks with a Biden”.

      /joe biden

    2. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      The entire federal government is the Titanic. Doesn't matter who is at the helm at this point. It's already sinking.

      1. JesseAz   2 years ago

        Just remember never to criticize a Democrat. It is always both sides equally.

    3. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      If Hunter had been charged with tax violations prior to the 2020 election

      Now we're getting somewhere.

      The dick pics fake scandal just had no future.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It was never about the dick pics, dumbass, and you know it. Now, you just can't wave your hand and deny it.

        1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

          Oh, that Big Guy 10% bullshit?

          It's a fake scandal all the way. I know GOP ratfucking when I see it.

          1. Sevo   2 years ago

            Keep in mind that turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
            turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Anyone ever tell you that you are full of shit?

      2. Sevo   2 years ago

        We know that turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
        If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
        turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Sevo   2 years ago

      Well, maybe droolin' Joe's handlers can get the evidence returned or destroyed as did HRC.

    5. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      No sinking is going to happen.
      Kamala is VP for a reason.

    6. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      And whether they agree with some random Tweets or not.

  42. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    These 'protestors' are now agents of the state.

    https://twitter.com/MartinDaubney/status/1660929306036412417

    Finally - and predictably- a working class motorist snaps at a Just Stop Oil blockade, shoving a protestor to the ground

    On cue, with total predictability, police arrest the worker & protect the protestors. The police back the workshy over the workers!

    1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Finally? Police have been doing this shit for at least 25 years. Allowing illegal protests to blockade traffic and arresting citizens who push back on being held captive.

      Preventing me from going somewhere I have every right to be is absolutely a violation of the NAP. Restraint is not non-violent protest.

  43. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/andrewdoyle_com/status/1660968759744425986

    Teacher sends explicit messages and photos to a pupil: banned from teaching for 2 years.

    Teacher praises a class by saying “well done girls”: banned from teaching for life.

  44. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    https://twitter.com/stillgray/status/1661297550337650688

    Just saying the quiet part out loud. The woke concept of decolonization is a project for degrowth. Wokeness is anti-human, anti-civilization.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      https://twitter.com/spikedonline/status/1661296383876386820

      The EU's Net Zero obsession is deepening the energy crisis. This is already devastating for industry and it could lead to blackouts in people’s homes. Unless there is a radical change in policy, a dark future awaits, says
      @jameswoudhuysen

      1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

        https://twitter.com/AnunaDe/status/1659486023615643649

        No #degrowth without #decolonization.

        Watch my closing speech at the #BeyondGrowth conference in the European Parliament

    2. Gaear Grimsrud   2 years ago

      The ovation from the audience is the most terrifying part.

  45. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Mob violence

    https://twitter.com/townhallcom/status/1661028988985262080

    Rep. Pramila Jayapal: There will be "a huge backlash...in the streets" if the White House agrees to spending cuts.

    1. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

      She is full of shit.

      There are no street protests when UE is 3.4%.

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        turd lies. turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
        turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

    2. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      So she is trying to incite an insurrection then?

  46. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    Good News, Peanuts!

    I've decided to support Tim Scott - Negro Republican, in the 2024 GOP primary.

    The GOP Klown Kar is always more entertaining when a black dude is involved (see Spermin' Herman Cain and Ben Carson in prior years) so we need Tim Scott in there.

    That's all for now.

    1. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

  47. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Derogatory "Karen".

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/enough-with-calling-women-karen/

    Its potency forged through internet memes, the pejorative label of Karen is shorthand for an entitled and demanding white lady — sporting Kate Gosselin’s haircut of yore — who hassles people of color.

    Like most things that start online, it’s been tossed around so much that it becomes distorted, diluted and hackneyed.

    But, weaponized by an online mob looking to manufacture a racist narrative, it’s much more than a derisive label. It’s a flamethrower meant to incinerate the woman, her reputation and her livelihood in the name of so-called racial justice.

    Pregnant Sarah Jane Comrie (“Hospital Karen”) saw her home address posted online and was even put on leave by her employer, simply on the basis of the social media outrage. But after a fuller picture emerged, it was proved she did indeed pay for the bike.

    There was no more famous case than Amy Cooper, the “Central Park Karen,” who called the cops on a black birder named Christian Cooper back in 2020 while walking her dog off-leash. Every media report, except Kmele Foster’s for Bari Weiss’ Substack, omitted the fact that Christian Cooper had threatened her before the ugly altercation. (“If you’re going to do what you want, I’m going to do what I want, but you’re not going to like it,” he told her.)

    Foster also reported that additional dog owners had been threatened by the birder. But that information was left out of 99 percent of the accounts because it would have chipped away at the desired narrative.

    One less-discussed side effect is that the trope tells once-empowered women that they should suck it up and take whatever is given them.

    It has also made many women I know disarm that instinctive alarm that kicks in when they sense danger, lest they be branded a Karen.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      I'd be upset, but I suspect the nurse/victim has been voting for this shit all her life.

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        It's possible. Maybe she'll learn something from this incident. Maybe other will too. Maybe I'm being too optimistic.

    2. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

      "But after a fuller picture emerged, it was proved she did indeed pay for the bike."

      Is that another way of saying her lawyer showed the media the receipt?

      1. Illocust   2 years ago

        Even with receipts she's still getting hate. Now there is a conspiracy theory that she rented the bike after the video to get the receipt.

        1. The Margrave of Azilia   2 years ago

          Wouldn't the receipt be time-stamped?

          1. Illocust   2 years ago

            Time was blurred in the pictures they showed. Date was clear.

        2. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago (edited)

          Occam’s razor- exhausted pregnant nurses often jack up gangs of late teen/early 20 black guys, who must always have their phones out in self defense

          And Mexican (or/Hindu/Black/Jewish) white nationalists Nazis whose families can’t speak English are our number one terror threat

    3. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      i could care less about people using "karen" as a slur but I also dont give a shit about other slurs.

    4. mad.casual   2 years ago

      The mean Tweets are coming from inside the house!

  48. Sevo   2 years ago

    "Lab-grown meat could be 25 times worse for the climate than beef"
    [...]
    "Analysis finds the carbon footprint of cultivated meat is likely to be higher than beef if current production methods are scaled up because they are still highly energy-intensive"
    https://www.newscientist.com/article/2372229-lab-grown-meat-could-be-25-times-worse-for-the-climate-than-beef/

    Well, it makes up for that by tasting like cardboard.

    1. mad.casual   2 years ago

      This has been known since Beyond Beef. They did things like count rain water falling on undeveloped pastures as water consumption in production of beef even if 90% of it went to runoff and 9% went to growing grass for cows to eat, but the water used to make concrete to house the vats, to clean the glassware to produce the reagents for lab-meat, and to hydrate the employees didn't count.

      Bailey ran cover.

  49. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Shoplifting a city to death.

    https://nypost.com/2023/05/23/shoplifters-must-be-jailed-or-our-cities-will-be-destroyed/

    Target, Home Depot and other retailers announced last week they are taking big hits to their profits because of “double-digit” increases in theft nationwide.

    Stores are fleeing New York City, San Francisco, Los Angeles, Chicago and Portland, cities that soft-on-crime mayors and district attorneys have made shoplifters’ paradises.

    San Francisco is slated to lose Nordstrom, Saks Off 5th and Anthropologie, with theft to blame. Whole Foods has already fled.

    That means lost jobs and sales-tax revenue, empty storefronts and decay. What’s a city without stores?

    Thieves go into drugstores carrying calculators to be sure the value of the items they’re loading into their bags doesn’t exceed what the law defines as a misdemeanor — $1,000 or less in New York and most states.

    They’re gaming the law and stealing goods to resell them, not because they’re hungry or need diapers for a baby.

    In 2022, shoplifting complaints in New York City surged 45% from 2021.

    Target on Greenwich Street was hit 646 times last year. As one Target employee said in frustration, “At some point there won’t even be a store.”

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      They'll just make it illegal to close stores. Problem solved.

    2. Sevo   2 years ago

      And they take 20 or so of their best friends along; $20K in goods out the door in 5 minutes!
      But they're rich, right? They can afford it!

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      It is almost as if not enforcing property rights is bad, even for the poor in the long run.

    4. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      Detroit lost all the national chains decades ago, and then at some point the people looked around and asked "where's all the stores?", and called it racism.

  50. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Target doesn't want to become Target "Bud" Light.

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/terrified-bud-light-situation-target-pulls-pride-month-products-certain-stores-amid

    One week after Target CEO Brian Cornell revealed that "woke" capitalism is "great" for their brand and "the right thing for society," the mega-retailer has been scrambling to avoid a disastrous "Bud Light moment" by forcing some stores to remove LGBTQ Pride merchandise as consumer boycott calls mount.

    A Target insider told Fox News that South and rural America stores are removing controversial LGBT-themed products ahead of June Pride month to avoid further backlash. Some products ranged from "tuck-friendly" swimsuits for transgender people to gender-fluid coffee mugs. The insider said the reasoning behind such an abrupt move is "to avoid the kind of backlash Bud Light has received in recent weeks."

    The person who has worked for the retailer for over two decades said execs are "terrified of a Bud Light situation" as boycott calls soar on social media.

    A Target spokesperson said the changes on the floor were in response to "threats impacting our team members' sense of safety and wellbeing" following the introduction of the Pride products. We were unable to find any accounts of violence directed against Target employees or stores on social media.

    Corporations have freedom of speech under the First Amendment but have to understand if their political ideologies don't align with customers, then the people also have freedom of speech to voice their opinion. That's why corporations should probably stay out of identity politics or risk pissing off both sides, because what Target did by moving pride products to the back and scaling down the section will likely spark outrage in the trans community.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      Yeah, but the trans community is tiny. They can't cause boycotts that actually affect bottom lines, as the Harry Potter game showed. The left in general has trouble with boycotts, because they don't have large seat with the populace. It's why they don't really do them as a strategy anymore and focus on backroom pressure instead.

      1. Illocust   2 years ago

        That's said, in an ideal world businesses will move towards staying out of politics to protect their brands, and we can all go through our lives without being lectured by our dish soap distributor.

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          businesses will move towards staying out of politics to protect their brands

          Or at least, distinguish themselves between "tightly held" corporations knowing and willing to stake their company on any given cause and broader corporations effectively taxing shareholder's and stakeholder's dollars and paychecks to advance their political cause.

          1. Illocust   2 years ago

            That's a 100% fair clarification.

      2. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

        The left doesn't have a hive-minded single-threaded Poutrage community like the right does.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Wrongo, dumbass. Every time we see outrage from the left, we see the same verbiage posted over and over again, cut and copypasted all over the place.

          1. chemjeff radical individualist   2 years ago

            Unlike Team Red, which gets its marching orders from the same half-dozen websites:

            Breitbart
            Fox News
            NY Post
            Zerohedge
            Federalist
            Washington Times
            Daily Caller

            1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

              Versus JournoList.

        2. Sevo   2 years ago

          turd lies when he knows he’s lying. turd lies when we know he’s lying. turd lies when he knows that we know he’s lying.
          turd lies. Turd is a lying pile of lefty shit and a pederast besides.

          1. Illocust   2 years ago

            Just block man. LIfe is a lot sweeter in the comments if you block the two people who tend to post schizo type posts.

            Still plenty of people to debate with, and these guys will get bored without engagement.

        3. Super Scary   2 years ago

          "a hive-minded single-threaded Poutrage community like the right does."

          Projection, thy name is SPB2.

        4. Mike Parsons   2 years ago

          ^ LMAO

          Despite daily evidence to the contrary. Nice one buttplug

          Maybe stick to trying to gaslight that you dont love pedo porn (which no one believe either)

        5. DesigNate   2 years ago

          Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha

          Wait, do you actually believe that?

          Hahahahahahahahahahahahahaha

          And Jeff doubled down on it?

          Hahahahahahahahahahaha

  51. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    A "far right social network".

    https://www.zerohedge.com/political/atlantic-claims-twitter-now-far-right-social-network

    The Atlantic, a far-left media organization, has been at the forefront of the battle against Twitter after the swift takeover by Elon Musk. Their claim? That Musk has turned Twitter into a 'far-right social network' that offers a “haven to conspiracy theories, prejudices, fear mongering and bigotry.”

    In other words, anyone who disagrees with the political left is a far-right bigot. The Atlantic insinuates in its latest article that Musk made “anti-Semitic remarks” about George Soros and spends his time giving positive nods to “racist memes.” None of this is true, but The Atlantic is like a broken record or an autistic parrot; they just can't stop repeating the same tired mantras over and over again.

    While we can't really weigh in on the ultimate future of Twitter, it's fair to say that Musk has kept his word and made a real effort to expunge the old censorious guard from the halls of the company. This has enraged the high priests of legacy media.

    The message was clear – Conservatives and moderates were not welcome. They were going to make your use of the platform a living hell through double standards until you gave up and walked away. In the few years leading up to Elon Musk assuming ownership of the site, Twitter was bleeding users monthly to the point that they tried to hide the numbers.

    This is actually one of The Atlantic's primary complaints; that Musk is increasing Twitter's user numbers by inviting banned conservatives back to the network. At the same time, they prognosticate that more right-wing activity will lead to the death of the site.

    Beyond that, old Twitter suppressed discourse and journalists applauded them for it. They fought relentlessly to sabotage the evolution of a more open Twitter with competing views under Musk. They don't want debate, they want dominance. They want every single major social media network to filter out opinions and even facts that discredit their positions.

    And make no mistake, if this dynamic could have been achieved in every corner of the internet with every political opponent silenced, they would have celebrated the result. Leftists abhor fair discourse. They have no interest in being factually or morally right, they just want to “win.” They see the spread of free speech as a terrible loss, and this should make any rational person skeptical of the progressive vision for the future.

    1. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

      Report: Ron DeSantis Will Formally Announce His 2024 Bid With Elon Musk, Because Apparently David Duke Wasn’t Available
      https://www.vanityfair.com/news/2023/05/ron-desantis-elon-musk-2024-announcement

      1. Sevo   2 years ago

        Yeah, and Hitler is dead.

        1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

          Generalissimo Francisco Franco is still dead.

  52. Ra's al Gore   2 years ago

    Oatmeal brain's spokesbeing:

    https://twitter.com/OKeefeMedia/status/1661136176076529671

    Special Assistant to
    @JohnFetterman
    : "He'd be okay with, like, overturning the Second Amendment.”

    Also says the Senator’s office handpicks journalists “that will say exactly what the F*** we want them to.” #RealJohnFetterman

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      That guy looks way too old to be trying to pull off that broccoli head haircut.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        On the one hand, yes. On the other hand, he looks, sounds, and acts like a 17 yr. old born in 1993.

  53. Sarah Palin's Buttplug 2   2 years ago

    19-year-old accused in U-Haul crash near White House had Nazi flag, planned to 'seize power'
    ...
    A Missouri man with a Nazi flag planned for months to "seize power" and kill the president before authorities say he crashed a U-Haul truck into security barriers near the White House on Monday, according to newly released court documents.

    https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/nation/2023/05/24/man-charged-white-house-uhaul-truck-crash/70251068007/

    MAGA is not sending their brightest after Jan 6.

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      Maybe he was a diversion for the real attack? (Just trying to be generous.)

      1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Real attack from what, moron, the "Hindu and Bengali White Nationalists"?

        1. Homer Thompson   2 years ago

          the white supremacists are really taking the lead on diversity, equity and inclusion

          1. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

            Lol

    2. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

      Nothing says MAGA like a 19 year old guy named Sai Varshith Kandula.

      1. perlmonger   2 years ago

        Sounds pretty Aryan to me... 😉

    3. Sevo   2 years ago

      turd, the ass-clown of the commentariat, and a TDS-addled pile of shit,lies; it’s all he ever does. turd is a kiddie diddler, and a pathological liar, entirely too stupid to remember which lies he posted even minutes ago, and also too stupid to understand we all know he’s a liar.
      If anything he posts isn’t a lie, it’s totally accidental.
      turd lies; it’s what he does. turd is a lying pile of lefty shit.

    4. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

      Lefties getting tired of the lack of right-wing terror and willing to sacrifice themselves to keep the narrative alive? Sounds about right.

  54. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

    Sore loser and election denier.

    https://summit.news/2023/05/24/video-hillary-is-still-whining-about-losing-2016-election/

    Hillary Clinton never misses an opportunity to have a good whinge about losing the 2016 election to Donald Trump, and she’s still doing it seven years later.

    During an event hosted by the Financial Times, Hillary was asked about the potential for Trump winning a second term.

    She immediately responded “the Electoral College is a terrible anachronism that, you know, has caused people like me who win the popular vote not to be president,” adding “But that’s beside the point.”

    It is so beside the point that she carried on talking about it.

    1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

      Says one of tens of millions of Americans who, on their deathbeds, will still be complaining about how Biden stole the election and personally murdered Saint Babbitt with his shotgun.

      1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

        Nobody said that.

      2. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

        Do tell, how much have you imbibed this morning?

        1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

          How many times did you punch your wife this morning?

          1. InsaneTrollLogic   2 years ago

            Considering my martial status, none.

            1. sarcasmic   2 years ago

              The song RC's Mom is supposed to be a joke, not an instruction manual.

      3. But SkyNet is a Private Company   2 years ago

        Says a kidfvcker who claims that Big Oil has killed more people than Communism and will go to his deathbed wearing 3 masks and crying “it was her turn!”

        You know, since your entire shtick is just making shit up now

    2. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "“the Electoral College is a terrible anachronism that, you know, has caused people like me who win the popular vote not to be president,” adding “But that’s beside the point.”"

      She continued, "And those grapes look sour as hell anyway."

    3. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The 3lectoral College prevents incompetent, self-pitying, pretentious, authoritarian, and entitled politicians from becoming president? That is a feature, not a bug.

  55. Dillinger   2 years ago

    does DeSatan say Danielle Otterbein can't have all her friends and the owners of Hamburger Mary's over for burgers & banana hammocks in her daughter's face?

    1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

      I’m sure he would if he could.

  56. Diane Reynolds (Paul.)   2 years ago

    "No one will become an American" at all until the border is certified secure?

    Looking at the text of the bill, it seems that what Salazar means is no one who completes the Redemption Program can be declared a lawful permanent resident without action from the Government Accountability Office (GAO) and DHS. From the bill's text:

    Um, yes, it appears that when Salazar made his abridged comment into the microphone, he was clearly discussing the people who would fall under the confines of this bill. So I'm not sure why we made a headline out of it.

    Those are some pretty big—and hard to assess—conditions. How does the comptroller general determine that Border Patrol has reached a 90 percent detection and apprehension rate? By nature, people who sneak into the country are undetectable.

    This puts me in mind of other areas in public life that this magazine has glibly declared as "secure"-- sans any evidence given that "people who sneak into the country are undetectable".

    Now, glibness aside, they're clearly NOT undetectable because we have tens of thousands of them located at the border. My guess is when that number drops to pre-Obama-era levels, and/or negotiates successfully with safe third countries and the flow drops significantly, one might be able to reasonably the border is "secure".

  57. Roberta   2 years ago

    A bill that would have required Texas schools to display the Ten Commandments in all classrooms failed to advance in the state's GOP-controlled House.

    I was just imagining a school's really going all the way to comply with this by displaying them in Hebrew.

    1. Super Scary   2 years ago

      Or maybe they can just include an alternate version of the commandments - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7vwnhjSJi0&ab_channel=ForumWeapons

  58. Dillinger   2 years ago

    >>Arizona's war on tamales.

    (D)'s war on the Pequeñin

  59. Dillinger   2 years ago (edited)

    >>Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints.

    dammit I was considering one of those bikinis for dudes who get off in chick clothes

    edit: to that, though ... if the weirdos get off being in chick clothes but the chick clothes are made to accommodate the ladydick are they still chick clothes?

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      The one pieces were really really ugly designs. I really wonder how much done if this sells, vs how much is just for the purpose of having a display.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        comes off like a virtue-signal writeoff ... but I'm not in retail sales

        1. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

          Do you realize you guys are discussing the aesthetics of transgender bathing costumes? Maybe some self reflection on how you got there is in order.

          1. Don't look at me!   2 years ago

            That’s not what the discussion is about.

            1. Dillinger   2 years ago

              certainly not what I was discussing

    2. Mother's Lament   2 years ago

      They have tuck bikinis for little boys. So fucking disgusting.

      Maybe Nardz is right.

    3. Super Scary   2 years ago

      "if the weirdos get off being in chick clothes but the chick clothes are made to accommodate the ladydick are they still chick clothes?"

      There has been a shift and now it is more important to be trans. They don't want to be men or women (or wear the clothes for those genders), they are trans. Way more social/political capital comes with being trans than just being a boring old man or woman.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        I suppose "transclothes" is a step towards "trans swimming leagues"

    4. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      tranny thoughts for the day: If "men" can be "women" just by saying so and a "woman" is any person male or female who says they are a "woman"... then what are the "men" in the first place? Are they specific constructs while "women" are not? I'm so confused.

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        mission accomplished.

      2. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Everyone is a woman. Men are just failed women that were born wrong.

        T. Feminist

    5. mad.casual   2 years ago

      if the weirdos get off being in chick clothes but the chick clothes are made to accommodate the ladydick are they still chick clothes?

      Turns out putting real-life Borat in charge of Marketing and Logistics wasn't the best idea.

      If your marketing strategy is utterly tone-deaf to the last million of years of primate evolution, only confuses the majority of your customers, and perfectly apes parody except in the fact that you're using it in earnest, is it really a marketing strategy?

      1. Dillinger   2 years ago

        lol my pops is in marketing I'm gonna find out ...

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        Nope, it's a performative religious rite.

  60. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    That may not sound all that objectionable, but critics of the measure say it's meant to ban any drag performances that allow parents to bring their kids

    Except that's literally not what the law says.

    1. Mickey Rat   2 years ago

      The fact that the restaurant thinks their show would run afoul of the law suggests that it was adult oriented and not suitable for minors.

      1. Super Scary   2 years ago

        Yeah, they seems to be what is going on there. The law says you can have whatever show you want to have, but if kids are there don't do X, Y, and Z. This restaurant, apparently, can't help but do X, Y and Z during their shows, so they are crying foul.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          It's probably that they know they can't trust the performers to not do X, Y, and Z, regardless of what they tell them, and so they're stuck—they risk license revocation if they continue the shows, and backlash from the wokesters if they stop them, so they have to frame their decision to halt the performances as being the fault of the government.

  61. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

    Target is pulling some LGBT-themed merchandise amid customer complaints.

    It was NOT "lgbt" themed. It was "t" themed. You LGBs need to drop those Ts asap because they will be the end of your movement.

    1. Longtobefree   2 years ago

      How can a person be "L" if women no longer exist?
      Inquiring minds want to know.

    2. StackOfCoins   2 years ago

      I wonder why trannies are in the group. Only one subset of the alphabet people is demanding we deny reality, that men use women spaces, that people have their bodies surgically mutilated and chemically altered. It's not the gays or the lesbians or those horny fucking bisexuals.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        I wonder why trannies are in the group. Only one subset of the alphabet people is demanding we deny reality

        Breeder is a pejorative term coined by homosexual people particularly for parents who purportedly over-focus on their children and allegedly abandon their previous friends and lifestyle; or to women who give birth to many children, often with the derisive implication that they have too many offspring. The term is also used by antinatalists to pejoratively refer to anyone who has procreated, an act which they consider immoral.

        The use of "breeder" in this way is not new. It appears, for example, in Jonathan Swift's A Modest Proposal, widely acknowledged as the preeminent English satirical essay, in which Swift repeatedly uses the term.

        The number of souls in this kingdom being usually reckoned one million and a half, of these I calculate there may be about two hundred thousand couple whose wives are breeders; from which number I subtract thirty thousand couples who are able to maintain their own children, although I apprehend there cannot be so many, under the present distresses of the kingdom; but this being granted, there will remain an hundred and seventy thousand breeders.[1]

        Some parents resent being referred to as "breeders", and feel that the word unduly reduces the process of child-raising to animal husbandry.[2]

        The term was part of a 2006 controversy in the heavily gay resort town of Provincetown, Massachusetts, when petitioners against same-sex marriage whose identity was published complained of having been called "breeders". The San Francisco Chronicle described the term as "a joking or derogatory slur used by gays to describe heterosexuals".[3]

        While using the term "breeder" as a descriptive term is not new, the term has increased in use within the last decade[when?] mainly due its acceptance by pop culture and specifically youth pop culture. Some heterosexuals have said that the term "breeder" is offensive to straight people and associated it with "heterophobia" or degrading heterosexual lifestyles.[4]

        The term "breeder" has also been used to describe lesbian parents that partake in reproduction.[5] The idea of gay parenting has led some to say that the line between "breeders" and otherwise is less clear, with the idea of LGBT families beginning to "breed".[6] The term's connotation is a point of contention within the LGBT community. The expansion of the term to include parents within the community has created a divide on its meaning. There has been debate over its acceptability, inside and outside of LGBT circles, and whether it is a slur.

        The underpinnings of deriding and attacking fundamental biology is baked into the LTBGIQA+ movement at the ground level. This point was made at the ground level. The people making the point were repeatedly dismissed as bigots. That you now join the bigoted group was foretold. I feel less pity at your being put against the wall now that you are whining about it.

        1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

          The underpinnings of deriding and attacking fundamental biology is baked into the LTBGIQA+ movement at the ground level.

          The current LGBQTI+ agenda is fully Marxist, determined to destroy America's Western underpinnings through cultural disintegration in order to foster revolution. This is what Marxists do. They infiltrate legitimate organizations and corrupt them from within.

          1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

            The current LGBQTI+ agenda is fully Marxist

            Conceived immaculately or birthed in the original sin of Antifa, sorry, Gay Liberation Front, Street Transvestite Action Revolutionaries, and the Stonewall Inn mostly-peaceful protests?

            Blame the sin not the sinner.

            Edit: Feel free to count the genders symbolized at the lower right-hand corner of the sign. This question of "How did the T get mixed up in the LGBQIA?" is useful idiocy.

          2. KARtikeya   2 years ago

            Ok groomer.

            You’re the one who indoctrinates children to idolize child fucking frauds. You send your kids to a college named after a child fucking traitor.

            Tell your teacher friend in Yamhill county to take her groomer ass back to Utah. In fact tell all your groomer friends there to get the fuck back to Utah.

            Fuck your homophobia and transphobia. You're the ones worshipping and idolizing your child fucking prophets. Youre church treats child molesters better than it treats gay members or members who criticize it.

            Go back to Utah you filthy fucking pervert.

            1. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

              somebody has daddy issues

            2. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

              Your "Mean Bullying in Support of a More Tolerant Society" schtick is stale. Just tell us who it is that you want me to stop criticizing.

              1. KARtikeya   2 years ago

                I don’t care who you people hate if you stay in Utah. However, don’t think you can spread your pervert cult and promote hate and discrimination without people pushing back on you. Especially when your church is infested with sexual predators and you refuse to even acknowledge the problem or do anything to stop it. Also you people claim persecution when people call you out on it. It’s evil and needs to be stopped.

                1. Chuck P. (The Artist formerly known as CTSP)   2 years ago

                  Especially when your church is infested with sexual predators and you refuse to even acknowledge the problem or do anything to stop it.

                  Only to the extent that every church is infested with sexual predators. Predators seek out prey and then lie in wait.

                  As to acknowledging and doing something about the problem, you simply don't know what you are talking about. There are numerous policies that address it and such concerns are considered in every program in the church. You are trying to conflate a single story about keeping the confidence of a confession with the entire leadership of a church. The history of the church is not being hidden from anyone.

                2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

                  yo'ure still mad at your parents arent you?

      2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

        the trannies are literally an existential threat to the gays. They are erasing gay children calling them "trans" instead and leading them down a grim path of delusion pain and regret. It's nightmarish.

        1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

          Yes. Genderism is a genocide against gays.

        2. perlmonger   2 years ago (edited)

          Transition is gay conversion therapy.

          "Don't worry, you're not a faggot, you're just a girl trapped in a boy's body!"

      3. Super Scary   2 years ago (edited)

        "I wonder why trannies are in the group."

        They just want to fit everyone but straight white males into that group. For example, some of them wanted to add black people to the their flag – https://www.them.us/story/ipride-flag-redesign-black-brown-trans-pride-stripes

        1. mad.casual   2 years ago

          Again, well before anyone had seen a rainbow flag, homosexuality was explicitly conflated with being black, not scientifically or objectively, but for transparently political purposes.

          The cancer has spread to the patient's brain and major organ systems are shutting down and the Libertarians around these parts are *now*, at the point of the entire medical staff removing completely healthy genitals, asking "Wait, how do we distinguish the benign cancer cells from the malignant ones?" More than a decade after conservative surgeons saying "We shouldn't eradicate every last benign cell, but the malignancy needs to be excised with prejudice before even chemotherapy won't work."

    3. Stuck in California   2 years ago

      Andrew sullivan wrote recently about feeling like the queers were erasing lesbians and gays.

      I tried to search for a link and noted all of the hits were "Conservative columnist Andrew Sullivan" which is fucking hilarious, but anyway, he has the huevos to actually point out that there's quite a bit if difference between the LG and the T and + when it comes to those alphabet people: https://andrewsullivan.substack.com/p/the-queers-versus-the-homosexuals-cfd

      I think I've mentioned it here before. I have no idea why that community hasn't had a massive internal identity crisis over the current trend of the T+ end of that alphabet.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago

        RFLMAO! It's fuckin' self-parody clown shows all the way down. What do *you* mean by "that community"?

        1. Stuck in California   2 years ago

          Exactly the point.

          I have no fucking idea what that community is anymore. When I was a kid it was theoretically about gay people being a normalized part of society. Well, and San Francisco flamers.

          But by my 20s nobody gave a shit any more, so we thought "whatever". And the LGB community kind of made sense, had its own bit of identity crises even, like normal shit a diverse community goes through when it grows.

          Fuck, now it's insanity. The "everyone but straight white males" big tent sure does have an awful lot of people tumbling out of those tiny cars.

  62. TJJ2000   2 years ago

    The left has been playing this game for over a century....

    Oh... Just let the illegals get a free-pass to their invasion this time then we'll secure the border... Next Year; Just let the illegals get a free-pass to their invasion this time then we'll secure the border... Next Year; Just let the illegals get a free-pass to their invasion this time then we'll secure the border...

    Talk about getting duped.

  63. StackOfCoins   2 years ago

    This immigration reform sounds like a bunch of bullshit. If they stop making payments is ICE going to round them up and deport them? What if we just enforce our immigration laws? How hard is that?

    America is not a free-for-all buffet and until we get our house in order, we should not be shipping in illegals by the busload. This country has enough fucking problems.

  64. Brett Bellmore   2 years ago

    So, all it requires is a grand total of two people to lie, without any personal consequences if they do lie? Oh, yeah, that sounds like something I should trust!

    Here's my alternate proposal: Any illegal alien can get a $10K bounty for ratting out their employer, payable in their home country. They have to be the first to rat them out to get it, of course.

    1. Illocust   2 years ago

      That was similar to what I was thinking. I'd up it to ten years pay, gathered from the employer's company assets and not limit how many people can claim it. The private market would suddenly have a massive shift in concern about hiring illegal immigrants.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        employer’s private company assets

        FIFY. Public companies follow Chapter 11 shareholder priority, the fine gets assessed individually to HR employees in income/budget proportion.

    2. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago

      how about we just let everyone employ under the table instead.

      1. mad.casual   2 years ago (edited)

        Pfbbt. Many said years ago that they’d be OK with immigrants taking pay under the table if natives could forsake our own tax burden. That ship didn’t even make it out of the dock.

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  65. I, Woodchipper   2 years ago (edited)

    Republicans “want a new, non-metaphorical drug war,” David Weigel warns at Semafor.

    Lol we are still living in the draconian drug war escalated by Bill Clinton and other dems. It’s a bi-partisan effort. Remember that during the Obama admin Hillary Clinton flew to Mexico to PERSONALLY INTIMIDATE the president there from signing a drug legalization bill? Yeah, pepperidge farm remembers.

  66. olivia195   2 years ago

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    1. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

      That's Shop-Rite, dear. Shop-Rite.

  67. Ghatanathoah   2 years ago

    Why do I suspect that what counts as an "adult live performance" under that Florida bill is probably decided by some of the stupidest people alive? Probably the same sort of people who think delivery drivers are an "essential business," but the people who fix the cars they drive are not.

    1. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

      I would much sooner trust the safety of a child to a stupid person of good moral character than to a genius pervert.

  68. crackbost   2 years ago

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  70. Fist of Etiquette   2 years ago

    Look, no one hates drag more than I do. There is nothing about it that I like. It's akin to clown shows, which I also hate. But the underage genital mutilation is a different issue (which I also hate).

  71. Mike Laursen   2 years ago (edited)

    The great news is it doesn’t actually happen in the US. It’s a conservative culture warrior’s myth that minors are having “gender-affirming” surgery to remove their penis or uterus.

    You’d think conservatives would celebrate their win on the matter rather than pretending there is a problem to feed the culture war.

  72. NealAppeal   2 years ago

    It's been shown you many times that it is happening and before you cry "Cite?" you know cites have been posted multiple times on multiple threads of proving you wrong. Just keep pretending...

  73. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

    They don't call him Liarson, for nothing.

  74. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    Not one cite contradicting my claim has ever been posted.

  75. Idaho Bob   2 years ago

    InsaneTrollLogic 4 hours ago
    Flag Comment Mute User
    Maybe if you didn’t mute people, you might have seen it many times over. Has that ever occurred to you?

    But SkyNet is a Private Company 4 hours ago
    Flag Comment Mute User
    Then he couldn’t keep us his act like the mendacious twat he is.

  76. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    One more time:

    https://reason.com/2023/02/24/tennessees-anti-drag-bill-is-a-gaudy-public-performance/?comments=true#comment-9941788

  77. Its_Not_Inevitable   2 years ago

    Yeah, but it sometimes gets out on the sly.

  78. EISTAU Gree-Vance   2 years ago

    A black bear named dinger.

  79. Ghatanathoah   2 years ago

    @Vernon Depner

    I followed those links you liar. The ones that checked out described surgeries performed on intersex children with ambiguous genitalia in order to make them look either male or female. This is a real problem, such surgeries are often performed immediately after birth when a child is not old enough to state a preference. However, they are a separate issue from kids in their teens requesting gender confirmation surgery on their genitalia with the support of their parents.

    In fact, the same LGBT rights groups that support the rights of trans kids to gender affirming treatment often also oppose surgeries on intersex children. Since they believe kids have a right to have their gender identities affirmed, they naturally oppose performing such surgeries on children who are too little to offer an opinion on it.

  80. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    No, they are not "intersex". They are males with various deformities or injuries to the genitalia. They are subsequently subjected to the same sex change "therapy" as children who are older when they start. The theory behind this is, of course, utter sexism—that someone without male genitalia is therefore female. It is not a separate issue. Only the timing of the onset of the "therapy" is different.

    Medical attempts at sex change are not "confirmation" of anything. They are a denial of a child's true sex.

    One's sex is not a matter of opinion, at any age.

    Did you also follow the link to a sex change surgeon admitting to performing "bottom" surgery on 16-year-olds ON CAMERA?

    The information I linked to proves Liarson wrong.

  81. JesseAz   2 years ago

    Jazz Jennings had his dick chopped off at 17 retard.

  82. DesigNate   2 years ago

    Vernon, the rumble link said video not found. Probably cause it put lie to the bullshit of bottom surgeries not taking place in the US.

  83. Vernon Depner   2 years ago

    I have an updated link but I'm being blocked from posting it. Just go to Rumble and search for "What is a Woman?"
    At 58:40—"The youngest patient I've done vaginoplasty on is age 16."—Dr. Marci Bowers

  84. Mike Laursen   2 years ago

    I’ve been down this road before. Someone says, “ITL totally posted a refutation of what you said.” I unmute him and, as predicted, he has posted some link that talks about something other than my claim.

    I’m done kicking the football, Lucy. If he posted something brilliant copy and paste it below.

  85. JesseAz   2 years ago

    The football is you ever admitting to being wrong despite being given evidence.

    Jazz Jennings, hospital posts, testimony, and even the fucking white house admitting to it.

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